You make some good points. This industry isn’t for everyone, but I’ve been very happy commuting and flying a 777 for the past 10 years. Yes, I’ve missed some family events and spend 12 days/month sleeping in a hotel. But, I’m also home 24/7 for the remaining 18 days - with no job-related responsibilities, stress, office cubicle politics, or the need to schmooze my boss to get the next promotion. Heck, I’ve never even met my boss. I go to work with some great people, do my job (which is flying a really cool jet all over the world), then go home to spend time with the fam. I’m compensated very well so my wife doesn’t NEED to work (she chooses to do volunteer work for her own fulfillment). I can afford to send my kids to private universities and own my own airplane. Yes, this industry can suck when you are starting out and are junior. I played the long game and it has worked out for me. Cheers.
@vincentalakija5515
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your comment. I would really love to have a discussion with you outside of KZitem if possible
@Paradox-2884
11 ай бұрын
👍
@noob.168
Ай бұрын
family really holds people's careers back. so sad that ppl get brainwashed into having kids.
@jiyushugi1085
5 ай бұрын
I spent six years at a Pt. 135 airline flying Caravans single-pilot. Dream job for me. Lots of yanking and banking, flying into cool airports, many short legs every day and home every night for dinner. Low and slow is the way to go!
@DanPKing16
5 ай бұрын
Very cool!
@JoeMattitas
Жыл бұрын
I am a wide-body Captain at a major airline and started in the regionals, based in Vermont. I moved across the country at age 23 for that first airline job at a whopping $10k per year. Loved every minute of it. Living in ski country and home every night. Bottom line is, you've got to have the pasdion for flying-it's not for everyone. That is the first and only question i ask any young person that i mentor. There are ways you can mitigate the downside stress: do not commute, marry someone who understands the business and stay senior. Most pilots that i know who were furlioughed couldn't wait to return to flying after working a desk job. Wide-body flying at a full schedule can be as few as 9 days per month. My quality of life beats most all of my friends in the corporate world. Anyone who is successful in the business world and fortunate enough to support a family in style has a ton of stress and pressure with hiring/firing, sales goals, deadlines and so on. I see many folks in my neighborhood getting on the train at 6am to the city and returning home by 6 or 7pm only to do more work from home-not fun! I have been able to start and run a successful real estate investment business for the past 24 years, which I would never be able to have done working a 9 to 5 job. One thing I will add for those who make it to the majors, you can drop trips and work part-time and still make more than the average working person. You simply have to have the passion for the job and if not, then this life is not for you.
@mmouseav8r402
Жыл бұрын
I'm a 747 pilot for a cargo airline with a wife and kids and am giving serious consideration to quitting and doing something else, but being >40, it's not easy to think about.. Trying to get on with Allegiant as I live close to one of their bases and being able to be home every night is very appealing. I have my own airplane so I don't need the airlines to fulfill my love for flying.
@rulenumerouno
Жыл бұрын
I fly for Allegiant.... and for QOL, its unbeatable... They have their other issues, but I'm not sure I'd continue to fly for the airlines if Allegiant wasnt available.
@mmouseav8r402
Жыл бұрын
@@rulenumerouno Any chance that we can talk outside of KZitem? I love flying the 747, but it’s not fair to the family that I’m not home.
@danzodamanzo8192
Жыл бұрын
@@rulenumerouno I heard Allegiant offers minimal overnights and better QOL for lower pay. But pay isn't everything. I have a friend at United and he's in his mid-40s with a family and is miserable as a Year 2 FO.
@rulenumerouno
Жыл бұрын
@@mmouseav8r402 yes, absolutely
@robertsteffy9608
Жыл бұрын
@@mmouseav8r402 I'm working on CFI right now at a 141, crazy to see a 747 pilot in here. Would love to chat about your experiences.
@TheRealTomSelleck
Жыл бұрын
Something that my wife and I do- every couple months we have a very intentional “check in” with each other to discuss if aviation is changing or hindering our relationship in any way and how to fix or mitigate it. Family is our number one priority. Awesome video, thanks for posting.
@nealsandy8464
5 ай бұрын
Love that approach.
@justinwalker831
2 жыл бұрын
We'll miss you here at SkyWest! I'm glad you took the jump to do what's best for your family. For me, the airlines are the most amazing career on earth, but depending on the situation they can absolutely suck...
@DanPKing16
2 жыл бұрын
Best assessment I’ve heard on the topic yet!
@christopherreiher7527
Жыл бұрын
I’m doing it while my wife taking care of my 4 kids one of whom with special needs. It is extremely tough I can say that.
@danielcardone8622
2 жыл бұрын
"Have you considered, maybe you're stupid" 🤣 Bought spit my milk up.
@DanPKing16
2 жыл бұрын
Just being true man
@dustyrhodes2717
Жыл бұрын
@@DanPKing16 Meh, pilots can be tools but your retort was just the same. LOL
@bluefishbeagle1
Жыл бұрын
I was a commuter for ten years and have been out of the industry for 17 years, I still have dreams of being late for a trip, missing my flight, not know what my off days are or cannot find my trip schedule. Even though I never missed a trip it was always my worst nightmare.
@genxer74
Жыл бұрын
I don't commute and have all those anxieties over being able to catch the non-rev flight I want/need.
@stevebelzer4758
Жыл бұрын
As a retired AA Captain with two (grown now ) kids with learning disabilities I say you nailed it and broke the job down beautifully in retrospect as a SINGLE military pilot and AA pilot o was in Hog Heaven The financial and logistical stressors of married and kids is THE cause of divorce , affairs alcoholism in the airline . All the single AA Captains are kinda weird but happy 3 rules of airlines “Don’t commute Don’t commute for. Commute
@DanPKing16
Жыл бұрын
Love the comment on weird , single pilots
@thatguy7085
Жыл бұрын
Yep… it is why I approached Delta to hookup with local colleges to teach Delta pilots locally, for local positions.
@genxer74
Жыл бұрын
I left the corporate life for flying over the covid debacle. Having experienced the military and its deployments, the office life (with all of the BS that entails) and now flying part 121 (at a VERY similar airline :) ) I have seen a dramatic improvement in ME and my enjoyment of life. I am a better father and husband now after the switch back to flying. I was out of the seat for over 13 years before trying to go into 121 flying and did a lot of research and networking prior to. One cardinal rule I learned along the way was this; You NEVER want to live out of base and commute. I've even heard pilots say they'd work at the worst airline in the world if it was the only place they could fly and live in base. I know it was tough for the author here and empathize for him. I'm assuming he considered a company that is based in ATL and somehow that didn't work out for whatever reason. It's too bad b/c it sounds like this guy likes to fly. I am married to a woman that works part time (she stopped working after we had kids while I was in the military), my kids are all in school and I love the varied schedule every month. We all find it an adventure and it keeps things from being the "same ole". Man, I hated the drive to work and the same office crap all day everyday. I love doing 4 day trips so I don't have that drive to and from everyday. I DONT commute to another base... so far. I am lucky and the author is right, what a time to be a pilot! Tomorrow is my one year anniversary at my airline and I never had to commute to another base, only had reserve for two months, and I just bid 45% for November and think I might be at around 35% for December. We also just got a huge pay raise, so no more anxiety about getting to a mainline carrier just to make the budget work. Wow, I wrote too much here but if you're still reading hopefully you got something out of it. Hit me up if you want to ask more! good luck to all the up and coming pilots out there! Good video, but I wanted more about exactly what he switched to. I guess some ppl like the office life?
@glhsakd07
Жыл бұрын
This was a good read. Lots of stuff that apply to me as I am making the decision to leave the military to join the airlines as well
@FLAC2023
Жыл бұрын
My flight instructor, young guy also quit United this happened several years ago. He now flys mostly rich people around
@flyingmusician5327
Жыл бұрын
#facts brother. I was with Republic Airways and had several family issues occur all at one time. It really tested my mental and physical capabilities with being a commuter pilot. Very stressful. Family to me is more important than any job. I decided to leave for almost the same reasons as you did. I have twins coming some time in December, boy and a girl.
@genxer74
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the new additions! Blessing of health to all!
@flyingmusician5327
Жыл бұрын
@@genxer74 thanks!🙂
@Biden2024_
Жыл бұрын
What do you do now? I’m currently getting my commercial and hearing al of this is scary to me
@flyingmusician5327
Жыл бұрын
@@Biden2024_ well I started flying for legacy airways after republic. I was flying a Saab 340B. I worked for them about 4 months or so and as I was packing my bags to go to full motion sim training.. I received a text message from our chief pilot saying wish you all the best and hopefully we can catch dinner or hang out in the near future. Basically company went out of business. I was so wore out from all the hustling and training. When I left republic I was getting married at the same time too along with other family issues with people passing away just to name and had so many other things i had to consider. Lots of life altering events all at once for sure. Having all of that stress was not good to say the least. I am working right now in my families business and I still do fly alot. I have a 1976 archer II that you see videos of on my channel. I do ferry flights from time to time as well.
@rulenumerouno
Жыл бұрын
I went through the same struggle. Just couldn't take it anymore. Luckily for me, I found Allegiant, and can now still fly in the airlines, and be home mostly every night.... quite the game changer for me. Good job making the best decision for your family. Some people's ego wont let them make that choice, and they end up losing their family instead. Good luck
@richard4559
Жыл бұрын
My Respects for You. I work flying the ATR 600 and live 10 minutes from the airport. Haven't gone to the majors since "Quality" of life is very important for me. Did commute for a short while and I was "Miserable" literally. Being home most of the time is gold for me to spent time with a growing child and the Family.
@WilliamPotts3
Жыл бұрын
Amen to that! You have the best of both worlds dude. So you didn’t compromise a thing.
@keithm7087
Жыл бұрын
My motto has always been family comes first. A job (and lets face it that's all that being a pilot is) can be replaced but missing time away from family can never be made up.
@theanonymouscat5062
Жыл бұрын
I have so much respect for you. You put your family first, which is more than most people in 2022 would do. I wish you the best of luck in the future. I would never stop flying. But then again, I’m single with no kids. So take that with a grain of salt. I do feel that if you stuck it out that things would’ve gotten more effortless for you and your family as you progressed. Especially, once you made it to the majors.
@monaraemorquecho1362
Жыл бұрын
Been there, done that... it's the same circus, just a different tent. Kudos to you for making the break! Be that said, there are still awesome flying jobs - just not with commercial airlines.
@SpodgeDanish
Жыл бұрын
@@monaraemorquecho1362 What kind of jobs are there besides flight instructing? I'm a student pilot and really nervous because I want to have a family one day.
@cliffh8486
Жыл бұрын
Something to remember all senior pilots were once junior pilots.
@robt3233
Жыл бұрын
That’s not necessarily true. A lot of it is timing. Some senior pilots were furloughed multiple times and some road to the top quickly.
@cliffh8486
Жыл бұрын
@@robt3233 did they all start at the bottom?
@benc1103
Жыл бұрын
I'm a senior captain at a global airline (former USAF). This is a great video and spot on. One thing missing: Flying is not a job. It's a passion. People become pilots because they love to fly, money being secondary. Nearly all of such people develop a love of aviation when they are kids, building and flying models, learning the science and reading about aviation history. They already know they'll be pilots. At age 15 I could spin an E6B as well as any pilot. If you don't have this passion, it's a tough way of life initially as you go through the training and building experience in the military, or instructing and commuter/regional airlines. If you have the passion, you'll still enjoy it because.....it's what you love. If you want to become an airline pilot just because "it's a good job" and the pay is good (at some point), it's easier to just become a doctor or lawyer, and you can be home with the family a lot more. So, if you love flying, go for it. There's never been a better time. Regionals are boosting their pay pates and work rules. If one had to stay at SkyWest their whole career, it would still be a great career if you live near your base airport (within easy driving range). Commuting is something you may have to do initially. When you get hired, the airline will put you where they need you. Then you can bid to your base/plane of choice, easier now with all the movement. Long term, wide body In'tl FO is great. Days worked/pay ratio is great. Meaning that you're close to narrow body captains pay while working a lot less days. No wonder that 777/787 FO is senior to 737 captain. Pretty nice working 3 trips per month (9-12 days per month. 6-8 nights per month away from home), easy even if you're commuting. Think long term. As for me, I've loved every minute of it. I was single in the Air Force (a good thing, or I'd probably be divorced). I live an hour's drive from LAX. Wife doesn't work (well, she runs her own business out of the house). You can probably get based where you live although it might mean delaying capt upgrade till you can get it at your base. If you're a wide body FO, you'll probably just stay put and wait till you can hold that as captain, and enjoy family life. But you'll save days away from home by not commuting and some stress. Our airline (and probably others) have a commuter policy: if you can't get on your commuter flight, or one backup flight, you can call crew sched and invoke the policy (of not having to fly the trip). You won't get paid for the trip, but you can always pick up another trip. Regarding the author of the video and commuting from Atlanta to Chicago, it probably sucks. But I'm assuming he wasn't going to spend an entire career at SkyWest. I'm assuming flying for Delta out of Atlanta at some point is the goal (achievable sooner rather than later). OK, 3 years (for example) at a young age seems like eternity. But 3 years of commuting followed by a 35 year career in base with a global airline is like winning the lottery (again, assuming you love flying). But with a working wife, who at that particular time probably makes the bigger paycheck, kids, the grief of commuting, and perhaps no particular love for flying, I can see that one might quit.....if another lucrative and local job offer came along that might pay $200K per year near term and $400K per year (in present day dollars) down the road. Not sure the top story of that nearby building pays that kind of money without taking job stress and work home with you. As an airline pilot, at the end of the trip, you set the brakes and you're done till the next trip. Enjoy your unencumbered time at home. Look at the big picture down the road. Hope this helps. Best of luck in all your endeavors.
@d.c.6942
Жыл бұрын
Congrats on your career and a path that seems to be very fulfilling for you! Lots of valuable information in there - can I ask for a piece of advice? I'm a drummer from Europe, just turned 40, with a bachelor's degree in music and ponder the idea of getting into aviation. I've been passionate about music all my life, but the grind of making a living out of it has taken a lot of the excitement away. So I'd rather keep the love for it alive as a hobby and find a new job that ignites my passion again and feels like an adventure, instead of dragging on in a routine that has lost its charme. I have always loved travelling, discovering new places, and the general excitement of airports. The feeling that just by getting on one of those awesome machines you could go absolutely anywhere on the planet and experience something new. Obviously my main interest growing up has been music, even if the idea that it might give me the possibility to see the world has been linked to it. So I guess I'd have to get closer to a cockpit than just taking a passenger flight to find out if I could really be passionate about it. Do you think it still makes sense to start pilot training at my age? I want to be able to provide for a good living, buy a place to live, while doing something exciting that makes the journey worthwhile. It's not just about the money, but considering that I'd have to pay a huge bill and take up a loan for education first: Is there a chance that I make it to some well-paid job with liveable schedules and how long would it take me? Or would it be very difficult to get hired and move up the ranks with my CV? I don't want to spend a lot of effort and money and get stuck somewhere on the way without it ever paying off because of my late start. Would it make a difference to try a career in the US as opposed to Europe? Also rotary blade seems like a very cool option with maybe even more flexibility to see different places or settle down.. Lots of questions, I know, but any advice would be highly appreciated.
@benc1103
Жыл бұрын
@@d.c.6942 Lots of people have made career changes and become pilots. You won't have as long a career as most, but it'll still be rewarding. You'll probably have to take out a loan for any professional education you take on. Again, you'll need a keen interest in flying because there are other professions in law, business or medicine. But if your heart is set on flying, go for it. Once you get underway in your career they'll be time to devote to your musical career. Lots of pilots have second occupations because that's also where their interests are, and they have the time. Life is too short to just dream about things. It's only long enough to do them. Your choice is to continue being a musician at your current level. Or being a pilot and a musician. Who knows. The traveling you'll do as a pilot might get you connections for your music. In short, 40 is not too old. Many have started around that age. Do as much research as you can, but don't keep on dreaming. The pilot shortage is expected to last around 10 years, so get in while you can. You'll continue to research while you train. The pilot shortage is worldwide, so that's good news if you have a particular place you want to live. Search for 1-800 Jet Jobs. It used to be the old FAPA magazine from 35 years ago. It's a jobs placement type of outfit. Not sure what they do now, but Google it
@benc1103
Жыл бұрын
Just did some research. It's now FAPA.Aero It's a subscription and counseling service. Worth every penny to get the straight scoop and find out what's really going on in the industry.
@benc1103
Жыл бұрын
Let me add that you can start learning/training right now. Flying is the easy part. It's all the book learning that is a bit of a bear, particularly since you didn't grow up being an airplane nerd. Most of "us" learned a lot as kids building and flying model aircraft. I could spin an E6B like a pro at age 15. First get a medical exam equivalent to an FAA First Class Medical. If you can't pass that, there's no point continuing unless you just want to still fly for your own pleasure, in which case a lower class of medical will suffice. Start watching and learning on KZitem. Lots of good instructors (KZitem channels:The Finer Points and MZeroA are a good start). Basic aerodynamics, charts and navigation, stalls, slow flight, maneuvers, talking and the radio, and in particular: Airspace. Most of this will be common for different countries. You can start ground school on your own, and even take the written exam for PPL. Kingschools.com is good. iPad app by Daunltless Aviations good for practice exams. Sheppard Air has good courses as well. Their Instrument course is good, from what I hear. Thats assuming you'll be training in the USA. If training in Europe, similar on line or video courses are probably available. Ideally, you show up for training at a particular flight school with your written exam already done. That'll save time and money. Even the KZitem studying will help immensely. You might as well get into the student mindset. If you can't do this, flying professionally may not be for you. An airline pilot is always learning, studying, training. Every time you go to a new plane, it's a month of full time school. Might as well get used to it now.
@d.c.6942
Жыл бұрын
@@benc1103 Oh wow, thank you very much! What a ton of valuable insider information, your enthusiasm for the airborne life really shows. Sound advice to get a medical check beforehand to reduce risk of a possible disappointment later on. I also think I should get myself on both a small plane and a helicopter, to see if one of them really makes my heart beat and I love it enough to spend the rest of my professional life honing the craft. And to find out which I lean more towards, fixed wing or rotary. Do you know if there is also a pilot shortage in the helicopter sector? As an outsider, rotary looks a bit more fun in terms of the actual flying and more freedom to pick up different midterm jobs all over the world without worrying about seniority too much. Fixed wing/ airline on the other hand looks like the better proposition in the long run, combining a steady home base and social life with regular trips to other countries or even around the world. Do you think it's possible even with a late start to make it through the "paying the dues" part and reach a position with reasonable schedules and proper payment within, say, 8 to 10 years? Also thanks a lot for leaving absolutely no doubt about the mindset and hard work required. I know that I am only able to do that with something I'm passionate about. Seems to be quite similar to music in that regard, both are kind of dream/doing what you love jobs. With all pros and cons. Lots of people want to get in, and you have to fully commit long before it starts to pay off. But I agree, life's too short to not commit! You sound like a great guy with a solid can-do mentality, thanks for the inspiring conversation.
@bizbuck1
Жыл бұрын
Agreed that’s why I quit Comair so many years ago just before they folded turned out to be the best decision of my life
@steveduncan7684
Жыл бұрын
I Quit Comair 20 yrs ago because i was losing my family whole working for min wage flying a Jet
@armyavi8tor
Жыл бұрын
I’m an AA guy commuting from ATL to MIA. I hate commuting, we’re moving closer to base in the next coming months just to have more schedule control. The nice thing is we can reserve our jumpseats a week ahead. But uncertainty like delays, cancellations and schedule cuts makes commuting a nightmare. I would recommend flexjet, Netjets for positive space to work. Less stress. I did acmi for almost a decade and it was nice having a ticket to and from work.
@josephdale69
Жыл бұрын
True.
@prancer1803
Жыл бұрын
Why doesn't the guy above do like ACMI that's home based? Sure you 'commute' but they pay for your ticket!
@gringoloco8576
Жыл бұрын
Did you work corporate before AA?
@armyavi8tor
Жыл бұрын
@@gringoloco8576 no did charter flying 737s for swift air.
@Thehighlitereeel
8 күн бұрын
This was enjoyable and informational. I’m working to become a pilot as we speak. This video help me think about things I didn’t necessarily think about.
@brendasays2324
Жыл бұрын
I was a flight attendant for skywest too. I recently quit too, lol… Same reason, my daughter started school and home is where I needed to be.
@roguy26
Жыл бұрын
This helps a ton! I’m in college right now working towards becoming a commercial pilot. I’ve always wondered what it’s like being a pilot and having a family, so this video answered a ton of my questions. Thanks!
@vincentalakija5515
Жыл бұрын
Same here!
@MaWash3112
2 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video by Dan! Great content and production
@DanPKing16
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@JohnDoe50207
Жыл бұрын
I quit the airlines for this reason and was a 4 year degree guy, got a job recruiting for tech work from home making 130K in the Louisville KY and 2 years later moved up to 220K a year working from home. Then started missing flying so got a contract pilot job flying the falcon on the weekends best of both worlds!!!!
@WoomSlayer
Жыл бұрын
What degree do you have?
@Hansolo4427
Жыл бұрын
Well done in doing what you think is right. Been flying for 22 years, CPT with well known European airline, can’t wait to leave. Sick and tired of long days, no week ends, missing life by being at work. It’s not worth it folks, if you want to keep the wife and be a present parent and stay healthy. Yes flying is fun, but flying an airliner is pretty boring apart from the nice views and the occasional nice trip but you’re always there with strangers, never with the ones you love. You never know who you’re flying with, what time you’re going to be home, what terms and conditions are going to be slashed next…I wouldn’t touch aviation with a barge pole these days, my kids know the toll it takes.
@pilot41186
Жыл бұрын
Man we are in the same boat. 16 years captain with a legacy and I'm so tired of being a visitor to my family. Tired of the schedule fight to get things off or always bidding every month. Tired of lack of eating at normal meal times while the passengers do and wr don't matter. But getting chewed on for saying it'll be delayed so I can get a meal that day.
@peteypete8180
Жыл бұрын
The loneliness is the worst The glamour passengers see from the outside..the depression in the airline industry is the unspoken skeleton in all our HOTEL rooms
@airindiana
8 ай бұрын
Reasonable chance we might be in the same outfit as not many euro majors, I’m LH with a euro major and during covid made the decision I need to leave. I’m still here. I don’t know what happened with me but for me it’s the stress I’ve come to recognise. It all became worse joining this outfit I’m at, just something about the place. Coming up to checks I find my life shrinks down for 2 months prior to focus on the check/medical/line check (insert endless rostrum of events that happen every few months). I never failed one and always did pretty decently. I used to be fine with them but a switch flipped. It’s about half a year I worked out dominated by it in my mind. Also the struggle of missed weekends and never knowing who you flying with, what they’re like etc, endless changes to procedures etc. I’ve done the usual, spoken to therapists, read aviation Union help material. I think it’s not a me problem just a predictable problem when you place a human in a high pressure, stress environment for decades. It’s a roll of the dice. Some do lucky and make it through, others the brain uses up what it has I think I’ve done one sim too many, had one redundancy too many and after 20 years the brain goes “enough of this”. I think it’s dangerous to constantly override the brains defences mechanism with things like strategies. That’s a modern approach to patch over a faulty existence and system modern humans have created. I need to get out as I realise I’m deeply unhappy inside with the status quo and mid forties am struggling on an exit but I find it very hard as mentally this job is sucking me down so I can’t focus outside very well on creativity etc I need to escape to what I want to change to. For some pilots their reward bucket is worth it, I’ve been in flying for 20 years and chatting to a rele they said look at what it’s given you..not much. It’s taken a lot though. I’m glad I did it but I’m not glad to keep doing it given the effect on my wellbeing in life.
@philipgauthier3570
Жыл бұрын
So did I....23yrs and after being home for an extended period of time....shifted my perspective.....Agreed on SkyWest...did 2 tours there...Good adventures ahead for you...Cheers..
@nickmatteri7066
Жыл бұрын
Two pilots with children is possible once one of them hits the majors. Quality of life really doesn’t improve after $60-80k of income and most major pilots are making double that.
@zone2Ironman
Жыл бұрын
Nice video. As a retiring military guy with 4 kids I relate to your closing... :D I'm grateful that this is a time of hiring in the industry.
@normanhenderson9290
Жыл бұрын
Drove ships for a living when I was single... incredible life, awesome experiences I would not trade. Got married, had a child and the focus changed, almost overnight...
@Timemachine429
Ай бұрын
Aviation is not a career is a lifestyle 🙏
@i.r.wayright1457
Жыл бұрын
I worked for an FBO and got to know quite a few corporate pilots. You would think they would be super happy to fly a small jet around. Nope. I asked some of them why they considered quitting. "Well we spend our lives waiting around in airport lounges, and we fly these top executives who are sometimes very demanding." I assumed some of the execs had just gotten chewed out by corporate H.Q. and just had to take it out on some underlings, IDK. So they eventually quit flying and one took a job selling cars. He told me was now home every night and made way more money than he ever did flying. One time there was a 777 F.O. and a Captain for a regional who was flying a EMB 190 in my hangar. You should have heard them complain. Apparently, the only way to be happy in the air is to own your own plane and fly it where and when you want to. But, you will probably need a crying towel when you get your bill for the annual. Such is life, eh?
@ShadesOClarity
Ай бұрын
My cousin is an F.O. flying Airbuses for a low-cost carrier. He has multiple kids and a wife who is a nurse. He recently visited (he was on a solo vacation to the beach). He's got the passion, but I think there are a lot of life variables going on. His late father was a captain for UPS who was married several times. I think they both may/might have fallen a bit near the middle of your graph.
@DanPKing16
Ай бұрын
The multiple life variables definitely makes this a challenge, but if you can grind through it, you can make it work
@ShadesOClarity
Ай бұрын
@@DanPKing16 Certainly.
@MattTrudden
11 ай бұрын
Still a better job then the 9 to 5 grind. It’s basically a part time job that pays 300K a year lol
@blakewilson8470
Ай бұрын
Thank you for this video King.
@blakeshedd5354
Жыл бұрын
I'm with you, man. I flew for Envoy for a very short time before I realized it wasn't for me. Nothing at all against the company. I was living in Austin, TX and flying out of LGA/JFK. Very little time at home with my wife and kids. For us, it wasn't the logistics of it. It was just the separation. Best of luck to you.
@OBENSquad_21
4 ай бұрын
Everybody booo this guy for putting his family first over this dream job.. how dare you sir haha
@dihedraldesign7978
Жыл бұрын
Great video. I (personally) don't know how anyone with a family, who values their time and those precious moments of life, could do the job easily. That being said I'm in my late 30s and absolutely loving my regional gig. You could always go back later in life when the kids are grown (if you want)! Best wishes
@josephdale69
Жыл бұрын
You’re in your late 30s and love your regional gig?
@DuragVince-
Жыл бұрын
What do you love about your regional gig when everyone else is has negative things to say?
@genxer74
Жыл бұрын
@@DuragVince- do you even fly? Anyone complaining about the regionals and thinks getting to the mainline is going to magically fix everything doesn't have very good perspective. I love my regional flying job but will also leave it immediately for the mainline. All the regionals just raised their first year FO pay, so that helps immensely.
@DuragVince-
Жыл бұрын
@@genxer74 I don’t fly. I’m doing research and asking questions because I’ve been considering ATP. I don’t want to invest a ton of time and money and end up hating it.
@genxer74
Жыл бұрын
@@DuragVince- a lot of regionals are paying for the ATP course, assuming you're in the USA. Not sure what your resume looks like, but have you applied to any regionals yet? There are quite a few programs popping up for those that still need a lot of hours. United's Aviate, etc.
@ram-jt2ee
Жыл бұрын
Love this video. Seems super honest/realistic about both pros and cons of airlines
@DanPKing16
Жыл бұрын
I try to be.
@johnswanson2600
Жыл бұрын
I went from commuting over an hour by car to commuting 5 minutes by bike and my life is so much better
@MartinWenzelYT
Жыл бұрын
That's one thing I'll miss from my current job. Walk ten minutes. But it also requires 60 hours a week to make ends meet. Never any trips and stressing about money. Home every night though for a couple hours and the sleep. Worked over the road out all but 4 or 5 days a month. That sucked and not much pay. And with both that QoL doesn't get better with time. So maybe this awful career...haha
@damirzanne
Жыл бұрын
many other jobs out there like that , many even worse … I used to be city bus driver , everything in the company was about seniority , every 6 months we would bid on runs , and higher seniority drivers would clean up all the good runs , we were left with split shifts , with off days in the middle of the week … same with vacations and everything else … it took 10 years for a driver to be able to be able to get 4 week vacation in the summer … truck drivers , military personnel , sailors etc … what you encountered was nothing new or unique, it’s calling “paying your dues “ …
@danlopez.3592
5 ай бұрын
Pick where you want to live. Then apply to airlines that are based there. No commuting required
@LuisLopez-uy3if
Жыл бұрын
Awesome. No one perfect route in this industry and who knows what’s in your future. Best of luck, keep it up!
@DanPKing16
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@rogerbonilla9958
Жыл бұрын
I agree, I find Sky West to be a great Airlines with pilots who are very professional and great at what they do.
@junenam145
Жыл бұрын
It is definitely a lifestyle for sure. Imagine how difficult it is for the flight attendants too, who face the same struggles, but with a looooot less pay. It becomes not worth it quickly. Seniority really is everything, and if you are at a point in your life where you can stick it out until you can build the seniority, this industry can become more rewarding. Thankfully, I started with my airline (as a flight attendant) at age 23, single with no kids, and now I am pursuing a pilot's license with a goal to move to the front of the plane. I will most likely end up on the bottom of the seniority list again when I do make that transition, but I will have a more realistic expectation of what those beginning years will be like. (Not gonna lie, I really struggled in the beginning, was really stressed out, sleep deprived, and had some unhealthy coping mechanisms that first year). I also do not intend to have children, which will make it so much easier than those who do have children. Thank you for sharing your perspective and experience. I think you made a great decision for yourself by choosing to spend quality time with your family! Also, the part where you mention the 'cliche' things pilots say about commuting LOL The flight attendant work group at my airline has such a tension between commuters and non-commuters too. The commuters are begging for a better commuting policy since positive space ended, but a lot of non-commuters are against that because they say that it is 'unfair' that the commuters get a benefit that non-commuters can't use. It's really such a selfish argument but there exists that schism... They say the same things: commuting is a choice, you should move to base if it's such a problem for you. Not considering any other obligations the commuting FA might have.. Kind of sad, really. I used to commute (LAX-MSP) but don't anymore, so I understand the struggle, and even if a better commuting policy won't benefit me, I can't imagine why I would want to deprive my colleagues of that.
@pdornfel
Жыл бұрын
im hooked. im in flight school right now and these videos are helpful for understanding what a life at the airlines might be like.
@DuragVince-
Жыл бұрын
Which flight school do you attend? And seeing videos like this, does it change anything about your decision?
@robt3233
Жыл бұрын
I always advise people to be a flight attendant first. It’s a grind. Being on the road, living in hotels, not seeing your family, working weekends and holidays, and exposing your body to high amounts of radiation and terrible sleep habits can be a nightmare. Don’t romanticize about fine for a week or a month. Year after year it takes a massive toll on someone. You have to be all in and prepared to live an alternative lifestyle to make it work. I would recommend any other line of work if you want a family
@DuragVince-
Жыл бұрын
@@robt3233 Thank you, Rob. How will you be exposed to radiation?
@scottp6539
9 ай бұрын
I got out 12 /13 years ago! BEST move I ever made. Commuting SUX! Living near a Crew base with 6 other EGO Manalacs SUX Also! IF you are young and full of C=m thinking the Regional Airlines are the answer.. Good Luck!
@KaptainZulu
Жыл бұрын
That last part though..... lol.... you just gained a subscriber with that suspense by the way
@davidmangold1838
Жыл бұрын
I wanted to become an airline pilot, when I was 16. I got a 4 year degree, got my ratings, job hopped for hours. In 1978, I became a major airline pilot at age 25.5! I got married in 1984, and had 2 stepsons. I lived in base, until 1987. So as to fly wide body international, I transferred to JFK. I had a crash pad there for years. I flew to Europe and the Middle East-repeatedly, to 28 different cities. I had the time of my life! Divorced in 1992, became 727, MD80 then 767 Captain. Remarried in 1999, had 2 kids. Wife was a flight attendant, commuting to Atlanta, me to New York. We always had a live in nanny, and juggled our trips/schedules. It was challenging sometimes, but it worked and was well worth it. Ended up retiring at age 65, 40 year airline career, with 28 years commuting. I would not change anything-it was a great, fun job and the best job in the world! Some can do it, some can’t😉
@Matt-jv3mk
Жыл бұрын
Commuting sucks and it’s hard to overstate how bad it sucks. Did it for 12 years - 10 of them as a single dad with sole custody. Thank God for my mom, who watched my son when I was on trips. Moved to base when my son graduated from HS. He went to Harvard on a scholarship. I certainly couldn’t have afforded to send him there.
@DanPKing16
Жыл бұрын
You’re a level 10! My hat is off to you good sir! There are things our children will never truly understand or appreciate, but hopefully he knows the sacrifice you made for him. The love and work of a father is an amazing thing. Thanks for the comment.
@sunmist4421
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely top video. Few people talk about the commuting. I think they consider it to be something of admitting failure, in that they never really looked into the commuting aspect. Being a professional pilot is a lifestyle, not just a job. It simply may not fit your home life; it's no ones fault, it's just how the industy is; not going to change any time soon! It's the same in any of the "romance" professions; acting is a good example. People may have a passion for it, but that doesn't mean a certain aspect of it is for you. There are other ways to fly. People go blind for the airlines, with visions of cool large airplanes, and jetting around the world, but never really look at the whole package. Know what you're getting into, it doesn't suit everyone, no shame in that. Keep the faith! Happy landings!
@kellysunseri-adams8550
7 ай бұрын
Id quite if I was stuck flying the CRJ too lol
@DanPKing16
7 ай бұрын
"I'd" is the proper contraction for "I would." You forgot the apostrophe. And no one says "lol" anymore.
@Zackbrooks737
Жыл бұрын
Pretty much my favorite KZitemr. Nice job.
@NandanV
Жыл бұрын
Just came across your channel cuz I'm working on my instrument (and the algorithm is godly), and this was a really well edited video! Thanks for being honest, it helps offer another perspective to prospective pilots like myself!
@bobbys2160
11 ай бұрын
Exact same situation as you. wife ER nurse me Major airline pilot. commuted 35 years from Hawaii to west coast. i got sick of missing the kids events. I just retired so when I was offered another job after i retired i said NO THANKS I missed too many things and im not missing anymore. DUDE you were spot on all the stress of commuting. i don't know how I did it for that long
@DanPKing16
9 ай бұрын
Whew! Tough but glad you made it work!
@williambrown9481
Жыл бұрын
I started at Infinity(and MCCC) and got my Private cert there. Left after that and just recently restarted after a year and a half off the horse. And Cliffhangers a great classic movie 👏
@73av8r5
Жыл бұрын
Great video. I’ve been an airline pilot for 25 years….through 9/11 and other downturns. Hasn’t been easy with a working spouse but we only had one child which made it easier.
@DuragVince-
Жыл бұрын
Would you still recommend this career nowadays also seeing the price of flight school and all?
@73av8r5
Жыл бұрын
@@DuragVince- I would. The regionals offer all kinds of bonuses to help you pay off your loans and the pay is much higher than a few years ago. Best of luck.
@waverider744
Жыл бұрын
Great video, I'm considering making the switch to part 121 as an new empty nester.
@plaiskool64
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video man, it's good to hear the cons of the job as well to have the whole pannel of opinions.
@twister4489
9 ай бұрын
40 years in the airline industry and I am definitely on the verge of walking off the jet and leaving my badge on the center pedestal…this was once a very fun and enjoyable rewarding career, no longer the case in my experience
@macyl9960
8 ай бұрын
Great video. You answered so mamy of my questions. I appreciate it.
@DanPKing16
8 ай бұрын
Glad I could help! Keep in mind, a lot has changed and I am back flying.
@CLdriver1960
Жыл бұрын
I hear you, I was a commuter as well.
@gulfstrmcaptbob4124
Жыл бұрын
retired corporate pilot for major company. lived near the airport. knew my schedule months in advance. never worked holidays, great pay, great equipment. corporate flying is the way to go. harder to get the job though
@methanesprings4085
5 ай бұрын
Pretty simple guys, don’t get married and live in base. Girlfriend doesn’t want to move? Just find a new one. Makes those 5 leg days much better.
@DanPKing16
5 ай бұрын
I imagine you are a joy to fly with.
@CC-og4pe
Жыл бұрын
Gents - I also quit the airlines. As a 1999 UAL hire, I had been laid of twice and worked both as a pharmaceutical sales representative and corporate pilot during those furloughs. I left UAL in Spring 2020 and took an early retirement offer in Fall of 2020. I would like to let any of you considering departure from the airlines, there are great corporate pilot opportunities available now. I am currently a chief pilot at a larger Part 91 corporate flight department. Management like me are looking for very well trained pilots who are looking for stable careers with great quality of life. I will watch this space for any comments from pilots who may want to know more. Great video, Home School Dad.
@kelleraltidor4097
Жыл бұрын
Being a pilot is tough. This video motivating me working hard
@FGCH03
9 ай бұрын
I really understand you, it requires to be brave to take that kind of decision. 👏🏼👏🏼
@RunzWithGunz7
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for making this video. I am 34 and currently in flight school (finishing up instrument) while making a career change. My wife works full-time as a nurse and we have two kids (1 and 3), and I work part-time at my current employer. We are planning to move closer to my parents for support, and have long decided that I will only look at regional airlines with local bases, which is about 3 at PHL. I am really hoping that this whole thing works out.
@josephdale69
Жыл бұрын
Good luck.
@DuragVince-
Жыл бұрын
Which flight school do you attend?
@jeremyrobertson3752
Жыл бұрын
I quit for 5 years and came back. No plan just quit. Started 2 businesses in the process. The only problem was after a few years I started to miss it. I do not regret quitting though. I’ve learned a lot about myself.
@TheInvisibleAmericanMan
Ай бұрын
Well done.
@sb859
Жыл бұрын
My ACARS printout says you'll be doing ABX or Atlas... Enjoy and keep us posted. Subbed, from another OO'er. I was fortunate enough to earn enough $ in career 1.0 that my wife stayed home and ran the house hold/raised the kids. I highly recommend that for anyone that can make it work. The kids deserve that.
@DanPKing16
Жыл бұрын
Your ACARS may be broken. And the kids do deserve it. Love that statement.
@sb859
Жыл бұрын
@@DanPKing16 Hmmm, I'll change the printer roll and try again.
@johnwatson9518
Жыл бұрын
I loved flying but hated the career, especially after 9/11. As an Airline Captain we lost all control but retained all the responsibility. Management at all airlines are greedy and suck.
@hectormoctezuma6121
Жыл бұрын
Kudos to you for quitting the airline world! I would recommend looking for a good Part 91 job, although they are typically hard to find, but with the current pilot situation, there are some out there. It allows you to have a somewhat normal life and still be in the air, without the hassles of commuting, going through TSA, making multiple legs in one day, etc. The equipment is great, hotels and meals are way better than in the 121 world, and you actually get to explore the destinations you fly to. I’ve been extremely lucky to not have to do the airline thing and build my career running the flight department for an outstanding company. Good luck to you!
@amjadabugasisa950
Жыл бұрын
Lovely video I wish you the best of luck, and I should say I enjoyed the music and it didn’t bother me.
@BubblyinUSA2010
Жыл бұрын
Good luck as a Stallon wherever that may be. And whoever you’re working for.😊
@1chumley1
9 ай бұрын
Congratulations. You made the right choice. You're better off.
@BellyUpFishGarage
Жыл бұрын
I quit almost 12 years ago.. Greatest decision I've made in a very long time...
@kurtobermeyer3356
Жыл бұрын
Yes, commuting is a pain. I’ve been doing it for 21+ years. But, it all depends on your attitude. Give yourself time, and if it doesn’t work out… cough, cough… I don’t feel so good. There is literally no other job that pays what major airlines do, for the amount of work required, with the incredible benefits that are included. I have family who are major executives and doctors. They see their families a fraction of what I do. Oh by the way, did I mention that I have ZERO responsibilities to work when I’m not at work? Being an airline pilot is a good gig. Of course, like most every job on the planet, it generally gets better the longer you do it. Yes, there are downsides, after all, it is still called “work” for a reason, it’s work. Everyone’s situation is different, but if you have to work, and most of us do, being a pilot is a good way to make a living.
@13htorrespr
11 ай бұрын
Very good video, you stated facts and how they affected your situation which is very important to note. I have been flying since 2017 and finally meet ATP minimum requirements. I want to fly for the airlines, it has been my dream since I was 5 but life happened and I was not able to learn to fly until I was 40! I am 48, married for 25, 2 kids ages 17 & 22 and my wife works PT...so my situation is a bit different but still about a 3-5 using your scale but only because my kids are older, both drive, etc. so it'd be "easier" for me to be away for 3-4 days. Additionally, my wife is onboard and that is truly the key point in my particular situation why? because as I like to say, she has veto power and has been supportive of my from day 1! She's truly a gem. I know it's not all fun and games, commuting will take a toll, but I actually enjoy traveling as much as anyone...so my mindset, which can change once I am actually commuting, I'm on a regular trip going somewhere then I get to fly...I know that may sound a bit "naive" but all I can say is I need to see it for myself and perhaps my opinion will change drastically or it may not at all...won't know until I try it. I am fortunate that I live in San Diego and SkyWest is one of my top (if not the top) choices and they have a SAN base....sure, it'll take a bit to get to it but if I have to commute to SFO or SLC, plenty of flights and I know many SW pilots that do commute and they say they get a seat 99% due to the number of flights...sure, occasionally they have to spend a night when the get back too late or start early but it's not the norm and flights are under 1:30...again, perhaps a bit "naive" but this is based on the experience of actual SkyWest pilots. So, obviously every person's situation is unique and there are many factors affecting the decision to fly for the airlines...so a good realistic assessment is necessary to make the best possible choice. Thanks so much for sharing, it does not change my mind in terms of my goals, but you make a lot of really good points and I have considered most if not all and it seems that it is still the right choice for me...I just hope that when I do go, I will not be incredibly disappointed and my "job" becomes a JOB...which is why I am leaving the IT industry after 21 years. Best of luck to everyone and safe and happy flying!!!!!!!!!!
@BaxterretxaB
Жыл бұрын
Currently in indoc for a regional. Please make more “pilot life tip videos” love the packing tips. I’d definitely watch more content especially tips on bidding or commuting or managing fitness while on the road.
@elperro5
7 ай бұрын
your current commute is awesome
@DanPKing16
7 ай бұрын
Well that has all changed now. Commute is a bit longer.
@WRboXer
2 жыл бұрын
Great quality videos Dan. excellent delivery and entertaining. You remind me a bit of Destin at Smarter Every Day. Cheers brother 😎
@DanPKing16
2 жыл бұрын
Well that’s a great compliment man! Hope all is well and thanks for watching!
@jstottspooner
2 жыл бұрын
Well made and spot on video. I was very curious how airline life was going to treat you. I managed to get regional life over with before I got married.
@DanPKing16
2 жыл бұрын
Regionals were tough for sure. I do think if I had started earlier (even two years earlier) it would have been much different
@ChrisVogtmann
Жыл бұрын
I am headed to class for SkyWest in January! But I’m hoping to get DTW as my base and it seems very likely I’ll get that! I’m excited to start!
@DanPKing16
Жыл бұрын
Excited for you man!
@joeyleagjeld
Жыл бұрын
When Skywest came to UND last month, they said that almost all of their pilots are getting the bases they want in a year or less. Joining the Skywest Cadet program also helps with this
@seemore7327
Жыл бұрын
@@joeyleagjeld I did the same as well, SkyWest Cadet program! I’ll be at SkyWest in summer of ‘24! Best of luck to you at INDOC!!👍👍
@FuzzFam
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, really enjoyed that. That cliffhanger, lol. I think I’ll have to stick around and see what’s next. I retire from my first career as a police officer in about three years and I’m planning on the airlines for my next gig. It’s going to be an interesting journey.
@DanPKing16
Жыл бұрын
I have two friends who are retired fire fighters and have made the transition into the airlines as a second career. Do it!
@FuzzFam
Жыл бұрын
@@DanPKing16 Awesome. My neighbor is a captain at Skywest. He put me in touch with a FO he flew with the other day who’s a retired firefighter named Andy. Got to start that networking!
@DoorHangerH1
Ай бұрын
Honestly this is the same conclusion I'm coming to. I love flying, but I also would like to have a life with family outside of work. Whats the sense in making FU money if you can't spend that money and time with the family. I'm currently looking for something that can crack 120k a year flying with upward earning potential and doesn't have half of my remaining adult life living out of a hotel (being away from home 10-15 days a month).
@GonzoT38
Жыл бұрын
This is so on point I'm saving it to my playlist. As a .mil pilot with now a working nurse spouse (mine is trauma unit staff nurse) and a 4th grader at home, this is why I stayed in the AF Reserves. Granted, airline flying was never my cup of tea (flying transport cat/heavies bored me to tears, glad to have jumped to fighter trainers, flying bombers almost made me quit flying professionally altogether), but the work schedules of my airline peers just became a non-starter. And we don't have family in the state where I'm stationed, so double whammy. It truly takes a village to raise a child, and two working parents without outside help just didn't cut it. Most of my airline peers are to a man, married to stay at home wives that are expected to keep the exigencies of the home front away from the FOV of the airline pilot husband. I find that a bit too june cleaver for our taste, but whatever to each their own if they're making that choice out of their own volition. My wife told me, to quote homey the clown from in living color: "homey don' play dat." Roger that, copy all, no stay at home de facto single motherhood scheme. So, we deal with my non-deployed training command schedules that are much more homestead friendly, and make lemonade. Being gone from the local area with her work impositions (back of the clock shifts with nobody to pick up the kid or be in the house overnight) was not gonna work. The other alternative would have been clinic work that's 9-5 for her, but she wanted to be in the hospital setting. As someone who was allowed to pursue his career goals, I'd be a raging hypocrite to tell her off the gate, no you don't get to pursue your career aspirations like I was allowed to. So I compromised my ability to go chase an F-16 around the Country for the allowance of still contributing to the fight in a training capacity, and supporting my family's domestic demands. I commend you for doing the same, it's an oft-derided position by the youtube sphere that demands only positive, choice-supportive biased presentation of occupational choices like airline work. Good luck and health to you and your family on the next chapter!
@prancer1803
Жыл бұрын
Dude. Come work for the cargo carriers. People have no idea what the lifestyle is like and the compensation and lifestyle can be incredible. In my humble opinion... people talk about the regional airline life and they don't have much perspective about what else is out there.
@tripleseven8361
Жыл бұрын
Yup...The Commute sucks...As a Canadian pilot, there aren't a lot of flights from my home to my base, adding substantially to the "Tier of Difficulty". I've been commuting for 18 years.
@alvarojneto
Жыл бұрын
I don't even have to commute to the gym. I bought weights so I work out at home. Possibly the best unsolicited advice I have ever heard.
@edinnorthcarolina--ovelhog5786
Жыл бұрын
Yep. Retired (4 years early) AA with 34 years service. Airline life was full of turmoil and uncertainty. I don't recommend it. Retired life is good.
@wojciechgrodnicki6302
Жыл бұрын
I like the road bike. Very nice.
@pkizzle65
Жыл бұрын
Feel the pain. I'm been commuting forever!!! At least you were making a decent check. Cause when I was doing it, I could barely afford 2 of those bikes in your garage. The regionals are paying SOOOOO much more than I ever got.
@DanPKing16
Жыл бұрын
I was a successful Army Captain when I bought those bikes
@dondash8921
10 ай бұрын
Good video. I would agree with your graph. I am one who wanted to be a pilot when it cost less than $1,000 but I did not have that kind of money. I know flying is a passion as is obvious by you getting back into it. Good luck.
@brittany16950
Жыл бұрын
Oh okay, so… if you wanna fly for the airlines *and be happy*, don’t get married and have a family.
@DanPKing16
Жыл бұрын
Not necessarily true
@JonnyJets
Жыл бұрын
Had to subscribe after that cliffhanger 😂
@sirgalalot88
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha, I loved the cliche questions bit. Great video. Family is all you have at the end of the day. Just stumbled on your channel and you seem really relatable. Keep working on your channel! Looking forward to more content.
@ThatguyFirst
Жыл бұрын
Good video. Three points of advice for new airline pilots: 1. Live in base - commuting REALLY sucks 2. Fly the junior equipment 3. Call home AT LEAST once each day (unless you're unattached) I found it amusing that you discussd deciding which airline to work for. When I was starting out things were so competitive that you took the first offer you got, if you were lucky enough to get one at all. Times have changed; the pilot shortage that was "imminent" for decades is finally here. Good luck ladies and gents.
@kelleraltidor4097
Жыл бұрын
Its not up to you when and how often people should call home, and it's dumb to think that people's relationship is based on how much they can call each other.
@pilotrieul
Жыл бұрын
Really opened my eyes especially in regards to commuting. Thank you for this great video.
@kimberlywentworth9160
Жыл бұрын
Riding the bike to work is so nice.
@19hundoc47
Жыл бұрын
What he said is all true, but it’s based off being a relatively junior commuting pilot. I don’t disagree with a word he said in that regard. The other side of the coin which he didn’t mention is, if you start getting relatively senior and live in base, the job turns into a whole different job. I fly 3-4 days a week, home every night, and since most regionals just got a massive pay raise, the money is pretty dang good. The regionals can be a pretty good place if you stick it out for a while. Also, just don’t ever commute to reserve, that’s a special place in hell no one should experience.
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