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@andrewcrawford8306
Жыл бұрын
I love the idea I saw of making 180’s into 200 rpm. I would love for Trust to be more competitive just because as you alluded to, it *feels* so great.
@eri_sister_of_aerial
Жыл бұрын
15% not 25% for Lumina in PvP
@dayeins7562
Жыл бұрын
Yo dude what about my feverite hand canon !!! The Crimil's dager from Iron banner ??? Not sunset 2 taper and good range good handling & i dont talk about the skin ( best look hand canon to me )
@Zapzo69
Жыл бұрын
Spare ratoions
@1shot4killz42
Жыл бұрын
Zaoulis or Raviolis bane is actually pretty good and fun to use when playing pve tho incandescent and explosive payload makes it fun I think it deserves a tier higher than bad but I see why u did so
@bumponalog5001
Жыл бұрын
Austringer with zen Moment and max stability literally does not get flinched. Its incredible.
@50centi
Жыл бұрын
Got it levelled, with enhanced perks, it has crazy stats, but for some reason if just feels off..
@tacoboy2218
Жыл бұрын
Negative flinch lol
@StickyButtonsProductions
Жыл бұрын
I'll try that
@iamglooo
Жыл бұрын
@@50centi probably bc you have no range at all
@RiggedFem
Жыл бұрын
Wish I got that roll or enough red borders to get it craftable, so glad they changed that horrible red boarder system.
@jamescruz8678
Жыл бұрын
More of this Ahoy aesthetic! Heck, at some point I bet you're gonna make videos of the detailed lore and history of every notable piece of gear in the game.
@exmachina1405
Жыл бұрын
That's what this feels like! Couldn't put my finger on it. We need three descriptors after every weapon now
@acoustic_.
Жыл бұрын
I was gonna comment this as well!
@Lowel1
Жыл бұрын
Halfway through the intro, I was expecting he imitate Ahoy's voice as well LOL. Keep this up Nomad!
@jpmorgan6146
Жыл бұрын
Wow I missed that channel. Such great reviews and videos it had. I didn’t even realize watching this
@acoustic_.
Жыл бұрын
@@jpmorgan6146 he still uploads
@legolokicars5820
Жыл бұрын
I feel so special now knowing that Nomad noted that Sturm is “not for everyone.” I swear by that weapon. It is a glorious piece of golden age tech. I am one of the few left.
@viviolet7
Жыл бұрын
doesnt even need an exotic perk for me, it just feels good. dont care at all about the synergy, the stat package punches way above its weight class
@SmartToaster4K
Жыл бұрын
Sturm is goofy, inn a good way. Love getting that 40k damage lol
@legolokicars5820
Жыл бұрын
@@viviolet7 exactly bro. Every stat feels perfect, it doesnt lack there at all (not even the slow reload, that glorious custom reload animation is so nice to watch). Its just all around a fantastic hand cannon. It has no downsides, while at the same time not doing anything particularly special. Its just straight up good.
@OkamiAmaterasu.
Жыл бұрын
Sturm is my favorite handcannon, love everything about it
@legolokicars5820
Жыл бұрын
@@OkamiAmaterasu. you and me together bro, every time i equip it i magicaly start hitting headshots
@zombiepicnic9683
Жыл бұрын
My favorite PvE hand cannon from way back: Duke Mk. 44 I had one with Outlaw/Rampage, so fun to use that I raked up over 16k on it. Now Crimson is about the only PvE hand cannon, since it's basically a pulse with heals and reloads.
@SmartToaster4K
Жыл бұрын
YOOOOO someone remembers this thing, I adored that weapon's damage output.
@dawsongranger4940
Жыл бұрын
The Duke was the best 120 to use in destiny 1 and 2. I’m sad it’s been sunset into nonexistence and 120s aren’t that strong without high damage perks
@destinydude8028
Жыл бұрын
Does no one care about sunshot anymore?
@notinterested7790
Жыл бұрын
It's nice to see other fans of the Duke. I garnered so many PvP kills with my Rapid-Hit/Rampage Duke. (Albeit, back when Rampage Damage was insane on 120's) The Gun just sounds and feels great, the Range was outstanding, and it was a sure threat to anyone who wanted to tango with a Precision-Seeking Maniac like me. I just wish they'd bring it back...
@scottricks1676
21 күн бұрын
I have a feeling duke will come back with an elite perk pool…..but a world drop…
@imperialphoenix1229
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore pure poetry and steady hand. Also, don't discount how huge the passive AE that air assault grants is. With Icarus and one grounded kill you hit 70 on PP, an airborne kill you hit 100. It's beautiful
@terribletimes902
Жыл бұрын
Erianna’s Vow with Lucky Pants is legit goated in PvE. So is Malfeasance if you’re gonna cheese something from a safe spot where you will expend all your heavy and special quickly.
@IntetDreamer
Жыл бұрын
For anyone trying this keep in mind that Vow has a custom interaction with Luck Pants and gets a smaller damage buff than other hand cannons.
@kantohi3404
Жыл бұрын
@@IntetDreamer Still deals great damage
@josephchudnovsky1921
Жыл бұрын
It does, but it’s hard to hit shots overall and it honestly doesn’t seem to melt as fast as Malfeasance. Plus u have to to run solar with Vow which isn’t bad but doesn’t free up better builds like Strand and Stasis
@cameronharris2862
Жыл бұрын
I prefer saving the exotic slot and using second seraph with vorpal and a major mod. Let’s me use le monarche for overloads or another exotic.
@terribletimes902
Жыл бұрын
@@IntetDreamer It still far exceeds any primary Hand Cannon
@noirbe238
Жыл бұрын
zaouli’s with incandescent and explosive payload makes it a legendary sunshot, letting you use other exotics
@thesolersystemofgames841
Жыл бұрын
Use it with witherhoard and boom, one pve loadout for everything.
@aesfeieienxas1925
Жыл бұрын
@@thesolersystemofgames841 or with Riptide Chill Clip and boom, heavy exotic slot possible
@julianlak1017
Жыл бұрын
no
@thesolersystemofgames841
Жыл бұрын
@@aesfeieienxas1925 ooh thats good too
@TailsOfTheWild
Жыл бұрын
Zaoulis bane is impacted mostly by the gun model itself. The bulky gun model with the strange upward tilt of the visual recoil and the floaty iron sights just make it so difficult to use and get used to even in pve
@joelh6761
Жыл бұрын
It has bad stats by comparison to other weapons in slot
@dylannichols3577
Жыл бұрын
Honestly the weird feeling to me is mainly because of the 88 recoil, but this is easily fixed by a a counterbalance mod which helps a lot.
@pigpen4849
Жыл бұрын
Gun works just fine for me
@matthewyarnevich3119
Жыл бұрын
i got an explosive payload incandescent one and it is literally a legendary SunShot, ive been using it in both pvp and pve
@makeouthill_17rv7
Жыл бұрын
@@matthewyarnevich3119 I love this roll for my solar hunter but the gun sucks in pvp
@matchboxp
Жыл бұрын
*Nomad talking about how palindrome is annoyingly good* Me: He's gonna mention Red Bull, wait for it... THERE IT IS hahaha Great vid as always, thanks for the entertainment, I really like your style :D
@AscendantNomad
Жыл бұрын
On a scale of 1-mad, how Waking Vigil are you?
@opulenceharbingerofchaos3939
Жыл бұрын
A right triangle with an angle of blue and grapes.
@Darkhouse999
Жыл бұрын
Mad at Bungie for not buffing its stats. Dire Promise almost suffers from the same problem but it feels good.
@loneenvoyyale5259
Жыл бұрын
Feeling kinda Austringer tbh
@ozonegtr4262
Жыл бұрын
1. Waking Vigil feels bad and should feel bad. (Supermodel look and sound tho)
@sh1nob1_wan_kanob1
Жыл бұрын
@@Darkhouse999 I feel the same way, I hope that they also transition the stats of Thorn in the future
@djungelskog9581
Жыл бұрын
I really liked my crafted zhaoli's bane in PvE mainly for explosive payload and incandescent, but after getting that hand cannon from the veil quest I realized just how bad it felt
@MavicAVF
Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or as much I would like to use a handcannon I just can’t? Especially low stability ones? God how I’d just be using ace of spades every day..
@LaLloronaVT
Жыл бұрын
There’s definitely a learning curve that’s for sure, as a hand cannon addict I really don’t know what works for me until I try it, sunshot is gorgeous for me but I could not stand the new palindrome, fatebringer is my baby but I can never use ace consistently, I’m only now getting used to 120’s and even then round Robin is the cream of the crop for me, just experiment and see what works for you
@Bwah04
Жыл бұрын
I mean tbf it's not a great meta for hcs rn
@MrNawlins504
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I never use hand cannons before now I have to because of unstoppable champions
@KS-mn7qk
Жыл бұрын
@@LaLloronaVT It's the opposite for me. I love ace and palindrome. My adept palindrome from season of the chosen is my favorite energy weapon. I just can't use fatebringer, idk why.
@matthewfabacher
Жыл бұрын
Opposite for me, I can't stand using anything that isn't a handcannon
@pokecoke4123
Жыл бұрын
im happy with dire promise's placement. it was my first legendary gun, my first masterwork weapon, and the only kinetic gun i ran until beyond light (i started playing just before season of the lost and cross platform)
@Pharexus
Жыл бұрын
you're the first d2 channel i've seen with a truly standout writing/commentary style, keep it up ♥
@YeezyGT
Жыл бұрын
Really like the section splash screen style ("The Bad", "The Good", etc)
@tatsu8886
Жыл бұрын
I normally disagree with most Tier Listings, but.. I can't. Everything you listed fits perfectly and what is what I would place each of them in the exact same spots. My baby Ace getting the respect it deserves. Your summation of Palindrome was also interesting but accurate, it's a gun so good it's like watching a Storm Trooper go up against Darth Vader in his prime just to be absolutely demolished. I love Hand Cannons and this list was accurate. Great job, Nomad.
@failfurby
Жыл бұрын
Hand Cannons on Hunter with Lucky Pants always have a place in PvE, even if it's just Eriana's Vow. Crimson + Lucky Pants + Strand has been my default build since the Hand Cannon buff.
@dankerbell
Жыл бұрын
crimson/the last word/officer revolver would be better for that
@failfurby
Жыл бұрын
@@dankerbell maybe you should have read my entire comment
@obi-wancanoli8236
Жыл бұрын
@@dankerbell I will vouch for Last Word in particular, especially on fun factor
@migultantamco
Жыл бұрын
I’ve always used Last Word + Lucky Pants, but after a while it kinda gets stale. I’ll try Crimson and Eriana’s though.
@failfurby
Жыл бұрын
@@migultantamco Malfeasance with its Vorpal Weapon catalyst is 100% the way to go now.
@KepNaki
Жыл бұрын
Yes, my baby is in Elite! Eyasluna was the first legendary HC I fell in love with in Crucible. With Rangefinder and Moving Target, this puppy dances in my hand (and no, I don't think the change/nerf to Rangefinder is gonna hurt it).
@joemurray
Жыл бұрын
I think fatebringer is elite but other than that a damn good list. Thanks for putting this together
@-The-Golden-God-
Жыл бұрын
It's definitely one of the best
@crymoreyes
Жыл бұрын
Its literally arguably the best HC in the kinetic, on a shortlist with Austringer and rose why is it not elite wtf
@iamglooo
Жыл бұрын
@@crymoreyes bc the flashlight can annoy a lot of people. personally i don’t find an issue with it tho. although, i find it harder to hit consistent three taps with ep fatebringer compared to a ep rose
@SALMONCATCHER11
Жыл бұрын
No rangefinder means not elite automatically, season 22 will change this
@derkek870
Жыл бұрын
@@SALMONCATCHER11 Fate is better already than all rangefinder handcannons. EP gives flinch, aoe, magnetism, less damage falloff, whilst fatebringer itself reaches 33m without rangefinder and also has eye of the storm.
@Droanse
Жыл бұрын
As of rn, Trust is my favourite handcannon in the game. The one I use has Dragonfly, Heating up, and stability mw. I agree with the placement tho, bc I've always felt it's more for PvE use than PvP, especially my role. It feels amazing tho, get one if you don't have one.
@UncleRico82
Жыл бұрын
Nomad rankings always go crazy
@chapystick_
Жыл бұрын
Crafted Zaouli’s Bane is literally diet legendary sunshot in pvp and I use it in place of sunshot whenever I can’t have an energy exotic
@osteohiveporosis6882
Жыл бұрын
Did you try Ikelos Hc with Golden Tricorn/Offhand Strike? That's a long lasting three tap damage buff for a good ttk at great ranges while hip firing, which is already extremely accurate.
@aguywith5names362
Жыл бұрын
While I love rapid hit+rampage, I completely get the description you gave on Trust. It feels good to shoot even if it's not the best of the bunch. I had a hard time putting it down even after I got Luna's Howl back in the day!
@ADHeyDonuts
Жыл бұрын
Take another look at Malfeasance. It now has a catalyst that adds 20 range and vorpal
@avoidd2
Жыл бұрын
YES FINALLY A NEW ASCENDANT NOMAD TIER LIST
@broderickfoster2107
Жыл бұрын
Could not disagree more on Trust. I’ve been using it nonstop since getting snapshot explosive and it is insane
@cvig1075
Жыл бұрын
exactly, that and VEPECULA in the okay column??? i cant take this seriously
@derkek870
Жыл бұрын
All 180s are subpar by virtue of a 1s ttk with comparatively mediocre range
@nelsongodoy5101
Жыл бұрын
It's not the feel. It's just the practical usefulness. Four shot unboosted ttk is 1s, and unlike 120's with the same tkk, they don't reach as far or hit as hard
@blindneophyte8318
Жыл бұрын
Sadly didn't see my all time favorite, kindled orchid. Kill clip + rampage was such a legendary perk combo for its time.
@joemurray
Жыл бұрын
Always appreciate a hand cannon tier list. Hyped for tomorrow
@TheStrayHALOMAN
Жыл бұрын
Trust, Duke and Not forgotten are my favorite.... Though I use the Halo CE Magnum because it's a handcannon in sidearm skin plus uses special letting me pair it with a primary without having to dual primaries... I hate doing that. I am talking pve/gambit btw.
@pyrobite8463
Жыл бұрын
Only one I hard disagree with is Dire Promise. As far as I know it had one of if not the highest aim assist out of all 140s, on top of having solid perks and a great reticle. You can also roll different reticles on it so it can get higher zoom than other 140s.
@nelsongodoy5101
Жыл бұрын
No hand cannon reticles grant zoom. Dire is slim and steady, feels better almost all other handcannona, but you haven't lived until you've fired eyasluna with whatever combination tickles your fancy. Dire is great, but it's power crept
@joinkswag
Жыл бұрын
interestingly, i started playing the game in season of the chosen, having picked the game up because of xbox game pass, and having played D1 growing up (17 now), and dropped waking vigil in my first hour of playing the game, rangefinder dragonfly and it's still to this day my favorite handcannon i have
@doc6084
Жыл бұрын
I have a timelost fatebringer with a range masterwork, hammerforged, accurized explosive and eye of the storm.. I’ve never had a handcannon that felt that great
@phillyswift9843
Жыл бұрын
He clearly never used it
@MidnightNad
Жыл бұрын
As a hunter who mains Void a handcannon is the best weapon to use. Along with the ace of spades simply getting one headshot has killed entire mobs of enemies while allowing me to go invisible and get ready for the next.
@jamesjdm
10 ай бұрын
Sunshot absolutely has a place in pve for add clear
@chinbusy6336
4 ай бұрын
Great list! I have a few Roses but my favourite has slideshot and explosive payload. I have a True Prophecy with opening shot and explosive payload... happy to see that I farmed the right Hand Cannons. I am currently farming Gambit for Malfeasance... and just got sunshot which I am loving but testing it out before I bring it into the Crucible. Also, got a midnight Coup with Firefly and Rampage which is lovely when you get rampage going (which is easy to do because of FF) I have a few others on your list except AOS and Last Word. But after this video, I think it's time to add them to my hand cannon collection as well.
@hulkhoagie3909
Жыл бұрын
I like to use my crafted Zahoulis Bane with enhanced explosive payload and incandescent in pve content, and its feels great. However, i never wanna use it in grandmaster-esque content cause i prefer longer range primarys
@AWACSHOUND
Жыл бұрын
Got a godly Crisis Inverted with Extended Barrel so it’s pattern is 100 with ricochet rounds, tunnel, and ranger finder with range master work and dear lord it’s so crispy it brings me back to the D1 Omolon Handcannon days and that was when you could order guns from Banshee every Wednesday and get nasty ass roles.
@enviable9481
Жыл бұрын
Bottom dollar is underated in this list, with insane perk combos like rangefinder and explosive payload, it has the highest range out of any 120 hand cannon in the game. It feels good to use, has a clean sight, and a good origin trait, yeah you have to play gambit to get it, but that shouldn't affect it on the tier list as a god roll of it is just incredible.
@samplebample1194
Жыл бұрын
OK... Am I the odd one out here ? when Zhaouli's bane came back, me and my clan were amazed by how it performed in PvE ... incandescent and explosive rounds made it feel like an exotic to us, and i'm sure that i've got more than 3 thousands kills on it (which as someone who changes weapons to play with like shirts, is a lot)
@PandLantis
Жыл бұрын
DAD IS BACK FROM THE STORE!
@chicagogalaxy670
Жыл бұрын
Did he get the milk?
@ProtoMario
Жыл бұрын
Fire Fly or Dragon Fly handcannons are fantastic for pve, but only those.
@jacobfreshwater3162
Жыл бұрын
HILARIOUS football reference, god its nice to hear some British culture references in a sea of American creators, I will assume you are a Liverpool fan by the comment made in your video, if so know that the mighty Tottenham hotspur will be marching on into a year full of trophies next season ;)
@AscendantNomad
Жыл бұрын
I love the sky high optimism that comes with the rampant, incessant denial that stems from being a Spurs fan LMAO
@Jeficus
Жыл бұрын
I see you were also working on the glaive tier list as well. Nice. 😎
@IAMGuardianDown
Жыл бұрын
I have never watched your videos and only see your takes on Twitter… but this is an awesome video, good info, background music, with good gameplay and a splash of humor. Well done!
@IAMGuardianDown
Жыл бұрын
Crimson was a sleeper for so long !
@rylandercoleman2740
Жыл бұрын
Love ascendant nomads videos but admittedly i don’t understand the theme of youtubers making tier lists right before a new season! Anyone watching this during the season of the deep, a few of the hand cannons look like they could be pretty good picks, but nation of the beasts after the rangefinder buff has a good chance to become top tier, not only because of a new perk pool, but its also now craftable! Has an amazing keep away exposive payload roll, and a memey(?) roll of hipfire grip offhand strike. Don’t know how this feels on a hand cannon yet but unironically an incredible roll on heritage, my personal favorite roll on the gun. May have some potential on this. Worth a try for some funky stuff if you get it as a random roll!
@timewaster504
Жыл бұрын
As a pve main, I got one drop of rose. Elemental capacitor and explosive shot. Did I mention I main void? That’s 100 stability and 100 recoil direction.
@MikhailHudon_ZerithFarron
Жыл бұрын
Crimil's Dagger having Moving Target + Opening Shot should be illegal. Mine had the luck to roll with those, Sureshot, Accurized and a handling MW and I've never put it down except for Lumina support builds. My only guess is that it's never been made available because it was so good and it dodged the Sunset wave as we got a million 120s at the same time shortly after it came out last.
@helioferreira6903
2 ай бұрын
There is also Optative, which used to be kinda strong when it released, especially when paired with something like OG mountaintop (sure, you could just shoot the person on the body, but whats the fun in that?) You could rock that perk that made you change faster with empty mag (forgot the name) on mtt, kill clip on optative, any decent perk on third column, tune it for range, shoot near someone with MTT, insta-change to optative to finish the person off, reload and you have a not forgotten, pair that with its excellent feel and movement exotics and well... you could just run over 6x6's, unfortunately i lost the opportunity to craft its reincarnation when i didn't have time to play during season of the wish. I hope it comes back soon, also i'd like to see how sightline survey would compare with the ones on this list, especially as a fan of the 180 archetype.
@jenkhemhuffersanonymous3990
Жыл бұрын
Was wanting to pick this back up now I can have the time to play again glad to hear my number one best hand cannon took me from below ten kills to over 20 deaths to mid 20's with less than 10 deaths Ace of Spades my boy
@kevinbazarek
Жыл бұрын
my perpetual motion + moving target Eyasluna (stability mw) is by far the best hand cannon I've ever used. perfect
@LeJunny
Жыл бұрын
DFA might get nasty tomorrow, should’ve waited until Fragile Focus changes to rank it properly, super excited to try DFA and Mindbender after tomorrow’s buff
@julianlak1017
Жыл бұрын
good call i already liked mine with opening fragile focus, can't wait to try it after the buff
@mamomeel
Жыл бұрын
I honestly believe exalted truth is a direct upgrade from pali in every way with the only exception being that it can’t get ricochet rounds
@igraviks7899
Жыл бұрын
For DFA, just you wait for the Fragile focus buff tomorrow, just you wait.
@destinationatlas9210
Жыл бұрын
Love the editing and voiceover, thought I was watching an Ahoy video about some famous weapon in media. Keep it up!
@sniperwolf7
Жыл бұрын
I miss my Trust, I never used it for PVP, not really, but it dropped with dragonfly and a few others. I had so much fun getting headshots and making them explode.
@flawlix
9 ай бұрын
I’ve been using Crimson religiously since it appeared in the game. My friends used to mock for my weird pulse-hand cannon. They’ve learned. Oh, how they’ve learned.
@thiccntender4525
Жыл бұрын
"The only real reasons to use a hand cannon are personal enjoyment, and dank memes involving lucky pants" *chuckles in Lucky Pants+Crimson*
@Aj-py8en
Жыл бұрын
Handcannons need a lot of love in general. The range/zoom rework might help them, but they dont deal enough damage. Any amount of if healing drastically increases their ttk and in PvE they aren't hitting the combatant health breakpoints they need to be. I propose, with zero play testing and the tiniest amount of math: Double: 96C 52B - can 4c/8b 6 resilience. can 2c4b any 120: 93C 50B - can 2c 1 resilience. can 1c2b 6 resilience. can 2c1b any 140: 72C 47B - can 2c1b 5 resilience. can 3c any 180: 63C 42B - can 3c/1c3b 4 resilience. can 2c2b any Letting handcannons be more forgiving or even more lethal at lower resiliences should be fine since the recent skyrocketing of high resilience players. Especially with 120s who especially suffer with poor damage for their rpm.
@owenrobinson5031
Жыл бұрын
For pve, I actually find 120s quite enjoyable to use. High enough damage profiles without having to get into smg territory. Scouts can feel awkward in that middling range, so if your play style is too aggressive for scouts and not enough for smgs, I recommend a good 120
@dethcometh
Жыл бұрын
I literally switch between Zoauli's Bane, Thorn and Austringer 😅 I find Zaouli one of the most comfortable hand cannons to shoot.
@helios123
Жыл бұрын
Crimson isn't used on PC because PC players typically play max FOV and the guns sight's are broken and prevent you seeing what you're shooting at. Not such an issue with aim assist.
@drakan5468
Жыл бұрын
27:42 Me after watching this vid: "it's okay Survivor's Epitaph, daddy still loves you. Bad, bad Nomad."
@VooDog
Жыл бұрын
I only have one complaint for this video. I know it'll automatically go in "The Bad" tier, but you missed Warden's Law. The bastard son of Crimson.
@Mark-vy5qs
Жыл бұрын
Picked up Eriana's Vow at the beginning of Season of the Deep and paired it with the arc 120 World drop. It felt funny to use.
@ultramadmax1807
Жыл бұрын
Zaouli is quite decent in pve, incandescent with explosive makes for a fun explosive build
@destiny49
Жыл бұрын
With the zhaouli's bane, one of the main reason is its sights are muuch wider and just chunkier then any other hand cannon, making it feel and act as if its close range
@rusty9038
Жыл бұрын
For Zaouli’s Bane there’s some kind of weird zoom bug or reticle placement that makes it really weird to use. You cant even see your hands it’s so zoomed in
@Dilerian_Zeramile
Жыл бұрын
And then there is me continuing to use the Ace of Spades to solo end game content.
@ItsAzizz
Жыл бұрын
u had me with the pali description i was waiting since the good section to see how he was gonna hype up the best hc in the game and he just took a massive duce on it.
@benmccabe1060
Жыл бұрын
Spare rations godroll was my first ever legendary drop back in 2020, so glad its back now. S tier
@almightytwinkie2171
Жыл бұрын
I've always been a hard Rose Enjoyer. From when it was simply a quest weapon to unlock my absolute favorite habdcannon in the game, to it now being a ranked based drop of a monstrosity, Rose has always solidly been in my inventory(yeah...even when it was sunset. Huge copium until they brought my baby back). Rose, Bottom Dollar, Lumina, Eyasluna, Igneous Hammer, and Seventh Seraph(Silence, no questions. I have my reasons) are all among my top favorite Dueling weapons post Trust/Dire Promise murder. *My original Masterwork Godroll Braytech Werewolf also sits in my inventory, from when it was first introduced. I also have 3 more, each for different purposes and playstyles...*
@dkbar5556
Жыл бұрын
Great video, Crimson would definitely be my favorite.
@cinnamonflamingo
Жыл бұрын
on your opening remarks me and my friend have been having fun with hawkmoon and malfeasance repectively for boss dmg when we didnt have any power ammo or supers
@ThisIsTheEskimo
Жыл бұрын
Out of all the HC's on this list, I somehow always default back to Eriana's Vow above everything else. Aha. Crimson, Ace or Trust were my go-to until I got the EV catalyst done. Might not be meta in any way but damn is it satisfying to use, especially in pvp with a Titan throwing hammer to soften up the unsuspecting first. Don't think I'll ever get bored of that unwieldy chunk of metal as my personal #1.
@midnighttmorn
Жыл бұрын
Zaouli's with explosive and incandesant in PvE is a beauty. Also if you give it a gambit memento it looks like a watermelon and I think thats funny
@KLGChaos
Жыл бұрын
Yep. Used that for my entire Legendary campaign with Path of Burning Steps. Even better now with the damage increase.
@elKinesis
Жыл бұрын
3:25 - Valentina is a nice middle ground between Tabasco and Ketchup. OR, mixing a hot sauce of choice with ketchup; delicious!
@ichigo-rz6qk
Жыл бұрын
idk how crimson isnt in a tier of its own or even just at the highest rank. its put below ace by a little bit which is weird. if i recall correctly it does more damage that momento ace and requires no setup, has more range literally has 3 short of 2x aces stability, only 15 less handling and 16 more reload speed and lastly has 5 more aim assistance and 1 more airborn effectiveness. ontop of crimsons insane damageput outdoing aces literal exotic perk that requires a kill to activate it also regenerates like 40 hp and reloads ur gun on kills..not to mention that with 3 bullets the recoil ur opponents get is way harder to control than with ace cause as soon as you get shot you make the adjustment to ur aim then you get hit 2 more times..requires you to adjust ur aim multiple times whilst ace is just a predictable single adjustment. especially because its been so popular for so long that its not difficult to adjust anymore if ur a long time player.
@onemancarnage
Жыл бұрын
Zaolis is probably the only pve hand Cannon . Explosive payload and incandescent. Does have a strange feel to it though .
@Mintybird
Жыл бұрын
As a resident Waking Vigil main, I take great offense! It not only rolls some of the best perks for aim assist and weapon feel you can get, and has sight options over barrel options, which tend to have a greater stat package, it also did get buffed with the other former 150s, putting its stats back in line with other hand cannons. I highly recommend one with a high handling, with Fastdraw HCS, Handling masterwork, and your mag of choice (mine has High-Cal), with Targeting Adjuster, I have 88 Handling and 92 Aim Assist, plus Opening Shot and Rangefinder to make it even stickier. It trades slightly less range compared to options like Austringer and Eyasluna with similar parts, in exchange for a significant Handling bump and a slight aim assist bump. a It's a fantastic weapon if you prefer weapon feel and bullet magnetism over other perk options, it is most certainly not an "Okay" weapon! The only hand cannon I have seen that feels even remotely close is Rose with Quickdraw and Snapshot.
@Average_Internet_User101
Жыл бұрын
Using a handcannon in Destiny 2 makes me wish D2 had mouse and keyboard support on consoles because: 1 - The visual recoil is uniquely satisfying 2 - Aim Assist in PVE sucks 3 - PCs' are out of my budget range 4 - There's only so many hours you can invest into a game with a controller, before your controller develops Stick-Drift syndrome
@vascoalves00
Жыл бұрын
Jack queen king 3... My beloved. (Greatly missed since sunset)
@usurparemagnus
Жыл бұрын
You’re missing the part where steady hand is the best pal of le Monarque. I have one with QuickDraw snapshot and when I feel like ruining people’s day, I equip these bad boys and let it tear, my face included after all the T bagging you get with that cheeky hot swap combo.
@warlockholmes
Жыл бұрын
Might have to move malfeasance. It got a crazy catalyst
@Mike-tw7tc
Жыл бұрын
Ive been cooking with thorn recently. Enough to see a few pop up on the opposite team only for them to swap back when they realize its not the gun.
@IsraTheBlack
Жыл бұрын
Eriana's Vow needs a specific way to play with in order to make it good. All by itself it's bad. With buffs it becomes a one shot kill which makes it very good. Another way to use it is with handcannons that have quickdraw so you can use that same trick we used to do with bows.
@fear_bees
Жыл бұрын
Sunshot the most fun weapons to use in pve when there's a group of low/medium health enemies in a tight group. 30 thralls running at me are gone with one shot and it's so cool to watch the chain reaction
@AprehamLincoln
Жыл бұрын
I have so many well rolled hand cannons in my vault that I just never use because I moved on to things like autos and smgs after all the changes to the Magnificent Howl twins. Maybe I'll dedicate a day to messing around with the god rolled Eyasluna and Rose that I've never used. I will say though, I think Frontier's Cry should be higher. 180s are the one exception I've made as I try every new one out to chase that old high and a well rolled Frontier's Cry is the closest thing I've felt to what Luna's Howl was. Obviously it doesn't reach the ranges Not Forgotten did back then, but it definitely catches people off guard. Even better when you can refresh Kill Clip.
@sheepshank808
Жыл бұрын
Love the vid. I’m a PvE main who is getting tired of running the same activities over again, and now I feel better about loading up for my next comp match so I don’t absolutely choke my next game
@split117
Жыл бұрын
I'm not so sure how I feel about zaouli's bane, in pvp I've never used it but in pve with explosive payload and incandescent it's fantastic granted tho not in gms or master raids but everywhere else it's great, I'm really surprised it was so low
@donnie5815
Жыл бұрын
Pali will be my all time favorite. Currently sitting at 42k kills with my none adept
@Austere5796
Жыл бұрын
Is anyone else really confused by his perk nitpicks? He says Fatebringer can't be elite because its perks hold it back when it literally has Eye of the Storm + Explosive Payload (arguably the best, most consistent perk combo for handcannons in the game), and then when he talks about weapons like the Steady Hand he gives freaking mulligan and honorable mention and places it in elite above Fatebringer? How does that work? Palindrome has a completely dead column 3 with no consistency perks but its the cannon he praises most highly, while Austringer is completely stacked with godly PvP perks like Eye of the Storm, Opening Shot, Zen Moment, Rangefinder, Snapshot, even Air Assault for building AE, but he criticizes it for "not having the greatest selection of PvP perks". This tier list legitimately makes zero sense, it just seems like he rated whatever is most popular most highly and whatever isn't was put low on the list. Also, why include NF and Luna's when they are both sunset? They are the only sunset options on the list, their inclusion is nonsensical. And putting Crimson that high when it is literally one of the worst handcannons in the game? You can't peak shot with it so it can't compete with other handcannons, it doesn't have the range of pulse rifles so it can't compete with pulse rifles, and it lacks the ttk of shorter range options like smgs and sidearms. The only primaries worse and more out of place than Crimson are auto rifles. Crimson only works against bad opponents with no primary shot who can't use cover. As a fellow PvP lover and a handcannon main, I have to say that this tier list is kinda shite. For a 28 minute video, its kind of shocking how little useful information was given on each handcannon, and how many inaccuracies were made. How can anyone gush about how Rose is a "stat monster" when it literally is not from a statistical standpoint? Let's compare Timelost Fatebringer (which was rated lower) and Rose for a second. In terms of base stats, Fatebringer beats Rose by 3 range, a whopping 12 stability, only has 5 less handling (which is easily made up by the adept masterwork and adept icarus), and only 1 less aim assist. Reload speed is a throwaway stat, the only stat where Rose really has a compelling lead is in Airborne Effectiveness, which wasn't even mentioned in the video. AE is the real appeal of Rose, not stats. Rose actually has extremely garbage stability for a 140 handcannon in the kinetic slot, Austringer has 14 more base stability and Eyasluna has 19 more base stability. And in order to make up that stability and get to a reasonable number you have to sacrifice its high base handling by running heavy grip, at which point you're still going to have less stability than the other meta kinetic 140s. Rose is, on paper, the statistically worst handcannon that is considered meta, its popularity stems primarily from its high AE and lightweight bonus. This was a poorly made tier list that seemingly had very little actual thought put into it. If you are considered an authority on the crucible, you should at the very least aim to not say blatantly incorrect things in your videos about a topic you are supposed to be knowledgeable about.
@JTM1809
Жыл бұрын
The HC tier list I agree the most with thus far. Most other HC tier list feature an archetype bias such as "all 180s are automatic F" as if there were no differences between them. Why do I agree with this list so much? Because the 10 or so HC I use regularly, or semi-regularly are all in this list's "Elite", or "Great" group. Cantata, Bottom Dollar, Austringer, Ace, Exalted Truth, Steady Hand, Crimson, Palindrome, True Prophecy, Rose. I don't touch any other HC outside infrequent experimenting. And I'm one of them Steady Hand aficionados. There's no legendary weapon I'd have more crucible kills with, than TSH. And only Crimson I have more total crucible kills with. Although I suspect my GR Rose and Austringer will surpass my beloved TSH at some point.
@nicholasbrown6732
Жыл бұрын
I know its sunset but KINDLED ORCHID should of been an honourable mention, the rarest KC + Rampage is Iconic
@illastar
Жыл бұрын
8:07 This gun can roll demo plus wellspring Gives a bunch of energy since I’m sick of spamming Ogma and it’s kinetic slot. 12:13 I’ve had an overflow+osmosis dire forever it’s so good 16:13 Aw yeah now we’re talking! Eye of the storm+opening shot is one of the smoothest feeling weapons I have ever used 20:13 one of the more satisfying weapons I have used in any game; back in D1 I would log on just use this weapon. 21:17 Aus/Eyasluna felt just as good as I remembered from D1. Truly a Destiny moment Man I love hand cannons This was a fun video
@seffers4788
Жыл бұрын
I’ll never get rid of my demo/wellspring something new. It’s a nice handcannon especially with it being stasis. People just didn’t tinker with it enough when it launched and forgot about it
@PYRESATVARANASI
Жыл бұрын
Malfeasance is now Great with the Catalysts. On another note, I started using Last Word again... Damm it's pretty solid still inside it's intended range.
@commander_swift3765
Жыл бұрын
5:29 I'll stick up fot Zaouli's in PvE. I have a crafted one with Enhanced Explosive and Enhanced Incandescent it does a really good job at chewing through ads, though I will admit it's probably not great on higher end content. Still, it certainly has a place
@vincemattei4477
Жыл бұрын
Still love my trust roll with quickdraw and explosive payload I put the quick swap mod on it too, it rips and tears in crucible and paired with unstoppable shot is great against champions in PvE
@divingbird143
Жыл бұрын
My god, this video is like, perfect. The whole thing is perfect
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