Correlation does not imply causation, I do not believe a piece of media has the power to make someone do something like this, its a bigger problem than just what children are consuming for entertainment when it gets to the point of murder.
@KrystleLovesHorror
Жыл бұрын
I went to Half-Priced Books today and found an old copy of The Bachman Books with “Rage” in it. I watched this video the other day and couldn’t believe I found a copy for $4.99! Loved your video, but I did want to read it myself as well. 😆
@AndaKent
Жыл бұрын
That's so awesome! I searched at my used bookstore for ages and ended up on ebay haha. I hope you enjoy it!
@campbelldoug
Ай бұрын
It was my student Jeff Cox in 1988 who took a class hostage after reading Rage. He asked for me however, I was at a debate tournament at the time. Was it the book? At school, teachers noted his intelligence, even when he was doing poorly. “He had a lot to say and knew how to say it,” said Doug Campbell, San Gabriel High’s debate coach. “He saw things that other kids didn’t see at his age.”
@bramdelorijn8460
Жыл бұрын
An audiobook version is available on youtube.
@AllenFreemanMediaGuru
Жыл бұрын
Yes, listened to that before eventually getting the collection she has.
@michaellopez9169
Жыл бұрын
Alfred Hitchcock had a similar situation with his movie 'Psycho'. A man who had murdered a few women saw the movie and was inspired to kill another, he was subsequently caught. Hitchcock was asked if he felt any responsibility for the man's actions and he responded, at least in part, by asking what movies the man had seen before murdering the previous women.
@dannettermann170
Жыл бұрын
At the time he wrote Rage, it must've seemed like something that could never happen in real life.
@Sunshine_Ses
Жыл бұрын
That's scary 😳
@Dunybrook
Жыл бұрын
There was the Texas Tower shooting in 1966 which I think inspired both Rage and Apt Pupil.
@santiagogodoy8211
Жыл бұрын
You put a lot of work in for such a small channel. I’ve enjoyed your recommendations and reviews!
@AndaKent
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I really appreciate your kind comment.
@josephcossey1811
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps ironic that the similarly themed "We Need To Talk About Kevin" by Lionel Shriver should have been turned into an award winning movie and that both book and film are now regarded as modern-day classics.
@josephwelch547
Жыл бұрын
I was able to get my copy of thr Bachman collection at the Mississippi Comic Con for 5 dollars. (They definitely didnt know how much it was worth.) Rage and Carrie have similar themes about mental illness,abuse and violence. I think the only reason Rage was pulled was because of the realism of it.
@interghost
Жыл бұрын
The interesting thing is that Stephen King himself said in another unrelated interview that by banning a book all you do is make so more people seek it out and want to read it. So if he truly felt that way then by banning this book he would have acomplosh the oppsite that they were hoping for??
@bramdelorijn8460
Жыл бұрын
He didn't exactly ban it, just doesn't do new print runs anymore, the book is available as an audiobook on youtube if you'd like to listen to it.
@J.NeiraAuthor
Жыл бұрын
Stopping a book from being printed definitely limits the number of people who would read it. Sure, persistent persons will find it, but most persons aren't persistent.
@interghost
Жыл бұрын
@@bramdelorijn8460 Ive got the book, Ive got all of his books. Stopping a print is pretty much teh same thing. When they ban a book thats what happens. They dont destroy those that have been printed.
@interghost
Жыл бұрын
@@J.NeiraAuthor Most King fans will read it at some point. And the high price it goes for shows that there is a demand for it... and thats due to it being cancelled.
@J.NeiraAuthor
Жыл бұрын
@@interghost Most casual King fans have probably only read a dozen or so of his stories. Hard-core fans will read them all, but they're only a minority of King fans, like with every fandom. I can compare it to Harry Potter, where tons of Rowling fans have never read the Cursed Child play.
@kidneystonequeen
11 ай бұрын
I love this book but I definitely see why they pulled it. Charlie is painted really sympathetically and you're meant to understand and relate to him in many ways, but not outright excuse his actions. Though its a great story, I think a book from the perspective of a school shooter that paints him so sympathetically, who has so many things go right for him and is very in control as you said, unfortunately takes on a whole different interpretation with the context of the modern day.
@user-yj8gp7og5p
11 ай бұрын
I can only assume the title is directed at your fellow late-Millennials, because most folks my age have very much heard of Rage and are well aware that Richard Bachman is actually Stephen King. This "double life" was part of the the inspiration for The Dark Half, and there is an essay titled, "Why I was Richard Bachman" at the back of The Regulators, which younger folks might not know. Kudos on an informative video.
@me3851
3 ай бұрын
Yeah. She says all of that in the first 10 seconds of the video.
@happygoathorror
Жыл бұрын
I also got my copy in the Bachman Books but I was sooo lucky because I got it second-hand for about £10. I was expecting it to arrive without Rage in it!
@stephennootens916
11 ай бұрын
I read in eighth grade and recall loving the book. I have two or three copies around the house because I know how hard it is to find.
@leviathanproductions8124
2 күн бұрын
PDF version is available on internet archive
@Sisren86
Жыл бұрын
So proud of my hardback Bachman Books. Too bad its a library edition. :(
@Itsalladamnlie
Ай бұрын
There's also Rose Madder. It's not out of print, but most King fans generally disliked it, even King himself said that the book tries too hard. If you'd make a video on that, that would be pretty cool, unless you have already.
@AndaKent
Ай бұрын
Oh interesting. I'll have to look into this one. Thanks for the info!
@user-dx1jb4zq9e
Жыл бұрын
Rage is actually a pretty good book that squarely within King's classic era. It's got moments in it where King gets totally carried away by inspiration, like in the bit just before he shoots the teacher where he's describing the cosmic dimension of what he's doing and how his life trajectory led him to that point. It's the kind of stuff King could only write when he was younger and miserable. You don't get that kind of stuff in his books after the 1980s, unfortunately. I hate to say this, but like David Bowie, King started to fall off after he got clean and sober. In the early 80s, during the height of his drug and alcohol problems, his writing has a really strong melancholic streak and you could see that he was still chafing at the idea of being a popular horror writer, which is why you got things like Different Seasons where he was still toying with literary aspirations. That was best King. After rehab though, it seems like he was just paying bills and had acquiesced to his fate. That was around the time he wrote Needful Things. It was all mostly downhill from there, imo.
@Dunybrook
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't disagree more. Some of his latest books have been among the best he's ever written, and he's never really had a decline in his abilities.
@nope5657
11 ай бұрын
No, fuck off with this absurd "this artist was only good when they were an addict" garbage. It's such a backwards, disgusting mindset. And King himself would tell you to fuck off with this nonsense. His addiction is something to look nostalgically back on because you "miss old King." His addiction almost killed him and ruined his family. Substance addiction and pain is not a requisite for good art. King didn't "fall off" after he got sober. He wrote and published some of his best work post-sobriety. Considering your attitude, I'd doubt you'd agree to save face though. He's been writing, literally, pretty much his entire life. He's been a published author for over 50 years. Living life is going to affect your art and outlook. It's really that simple. No artist is going to have the same voice for over 50 years. And let's stop acting like all pre-sobriety King is "all good" when it really wasn't. Novels such as Christine, Cujo, Thinner, and The Gunslinger are very flawed works. I enjoy them all, but they are hardly his most well-rounded novels. And Tommyknockers, the last novel he completed before sobriety, is widely consider one of his worst books.
@MrSwinefuzz
Ай бұрын
Most of us "mellow" (mature) as we age. It isn't something specific to Stephen King. And complaining about it is a sign of immaturity and arrested development.
@user-dx1jb4zq9e
Ай бұрын
@@MrSwinefuzz It's a sign of having good taste in art.
@pennylaughlin3235
Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard of & read this book, I loved it.
@suicidal4life
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the recommendation and i love your shirt
@nmbosch85
Жыл бұрын
A few years back i found an old copy of the bachman books on the free book rack at the library. I scooped it up quick!
@hoochrocks
Ай бұрын
Love your Creepshow shirt.
@moatsofdust3210
Жыл бұрын
I have and read this years ago and never knew until this year it was out of print. Did you read Roadwork in the collection? That one is kinda wild to read now too.
@horrendus
6 ай бұрын
Ohh I'm not the only one who got Breakfast Club vibes from reading this book
@sleepingninjaquiettime
Жыл бұрын
In the 9th grade we had to do a book report on it. Turns out its banned in schools.
@quietrobert2010
3 ай бұрын
I sold my copy for $1500... I needed the money
@Readingnomad
Жыл бұрын
Not sure if someone has already mentioned, but I was able to get an older edition of The Bachman Books from my library. In case you want to read & can't afford to buy.
@patcoston
5 ай бұрын
You referred to Rage as a novella but it says novel on the cover. I think of King's book Elevation as a novella, but it also calls itself a novel on the cover. One definition I've seen is that a novella is 7,500 to 40,000 words and Rage has about 54,000 words. I say "about", because word count varies depending on which tool does the counting. It's actually not so obvious to count the words. There are a lot of ambiguous situations where people and tools disagree. Elevation has about 27,000 words so it clearly falls into that definition of a novella, but the book will call itself a novel for marketing purposes.
@jimmypratt
Жыл бұрын
i just got into your content and its so good! ty for your hard work :)
@Beatlesfan1993
Жыл бұрын
I’ve listened to the audio book. I didn’t listen to it much but I will try it again soon since I can’t read it.
@vagabundorkchaosmagick-use2898
Жыл бұрын
If the american government and parents are incapable (or unwilling, more likely) to grant a good educations to children, which would make school s h o o t i n g s something that doesn't happen (you know, like in any other country in the world), then the artists should not need to feel responsible to do so.
@jasonrhome710
Жыл бұрын
I found that edition in a used book store YEARS ago. People will use whatever they want to justify being inhumane to other people, so in that regard I feel like it... opens art to undo responsibilities. However, I think it's up to him to decide how and if his art is presented. (Admitting a bit of hypocrisy there, as I feel that Lucas tinkering with the original Star Wars movies was a BAD move. But movies by their nature cease to belong to a singular author at a certain point of their production. And most of the the story changes and FX additions were BAD or aged poorly.)
@carbonc6065
10 ай бұрын
~Another great video!
@Mary...22-u9j
Жыл бұрын
im thinking about getting his book coming out this September with Holly Gibney in the lead
@grey_wulf
Жыл бұрын
First time viewer here. Really like your thorough analysis of this book. I look forward to your other videos. (But wow, you speak really fast! Slow down a bit 😃😃.)
@derrickferguson23317
Жыл бұрын
Love your content!
@AndaKent
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mikepratt6481
Жыл бұрын
I have that collection! I should try selling it! (Wasn't that crazy about the stories)
@ToddSmith23
Жыл бұрын
I’m a creep
@unknown-uj9le
Жыл бұрын
🧐🧐🧐 this could be a premise to a Stephen king novel.
@sky13destiny
Жыл бұрын
Im a big king fan, mainly due to my mother. Yet I've never heard of rage.
@robertcourtney4081
Жыл бұрын
That shirt is a creepshow shirt, right?
@Mary...22-u9j
Жыл бұрын
yea from the segmant called fathers day
@its_Reelzyy
Жыл бұрын
I had such a hard time finding this until I started looking for the german version. It was so much cheaper and easier to find. But I'm wondering if maybe the translation wasn't that good cause even though it's a short read it kinda felt longer than a lot of his other books. I'm not at all saying it's bad. This is just one of those book where I really can't figure out whether I liked it or not. Does anybody else have a book like that?
@iknowwhattheyare
Жыл бұрын
what is it called in german?
@its_Reelzyy
Жыл бұрын
@@iknowwhattheyare It's called "Amok".
@iknowwhattheyare
Жыл бұрын
@@its_Reelzyy Vielen lieben Dank :)
@derralle5705
Жыл бұрын
The "secret" book that I "never heard of"? Come on, I used to be a big fan of The King and I read the german translation when it was published in 1988. I thought it was quite good. Later I wrote song lyrics for my band titled Cain Rose Up (yes, I have been edgy. Good times). To answer your question: well, it's his book, so if he feels like it should not be reprinted, then it's a good thing that he is in a position where the publishers cannot do so without his permission. I am strictly against censorship, but as long as people have access to the books they want to read, I'm good. (I like the part where you say "this one is hard to find. I found it on ebay". Also, there seem to be several audio books right here on yt) If you are still reading this, here is a bonus thought for free: Is Running Man also out of print? I am asking because this book ends with a man flying a plane into a skyscraper, and in september of 2001 I wondered what an incredible visionary The King is and how life imitates art in the most obnoxious, disgusting ways.
@turbokid8719
Жыл бұрын
Rage Steph kings short stories it was okay I like boogeyman & mist better
@kirby6844
Жыл бұрын
I saw the Bachman books and I heard about rage. I won’t read it because of issues I had with school and someone spreading a rumor I would do it. But I like the cover of the original.
@metalmonk3775
11 ай бұрын
I cant believe how many times i saw this book cover and didnt realize it was a desk he was sitting on and not a wall. Mind you, i never read the book and had no clue as to the plot, but still!
@gillian32
Жыл бұрын
I read "The Bachman Books" in high school. None of the books affected me in a bad way. I think it's interesting that "The Running Man" involves a plane crashing into an office building. I remember "Roadwork" being my favorite. All four books involve guns. I probably thought guns were cool at the time. Now, I just think they're dangerous.
@awesomejenisawesome
Жыл бұрын
Anda! Love your channel..btw. But yea...read the book...and other masterpiece by Mr. King...very reflective of teenage angst...and you cant help but to see Charlie as a hero and a voice for teens of the time. However..that fictional life in society is not the reality of today...and I too can honor Mr. Kings wishes to pull the book. Especially as so many children are suffering from recent events. And in my opinion....if we had more regulations on the matter...then we could continue to enjoy books like RAGE...because they would still be deemed "fantasy" and not a reality (which were living in now). BUT ANYWAYS...Thanks for covering this book. Love the channel. ✌️❤
@MovieHeretic
2 ай бұрын
Hardly a "secret" Stephen King book that people have never heard of. Try less clickbait to be taken seriously.
@petarnikolov3227
Ай бұрын
Really cheap way to title the video. I totally agree with you.
@dannettermann170
Жыл бұрын
I still have the paperback Bachman Books that I bought 30 years ago. Glad I held on to it!
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