Security actually escorting someone to the brig instead of letting him/her wander through the ship? Wow. This is an advance.
@jamiearmstrong3487
Жыл бұрын
It was only a temporary policy, Janeway had broken free from the coffee.
@thiagodeandrade7081
Жыл бұрын
@@jamiearmstrong3487 It makes sense.
@danielweston9188
9 ай бұрын
but if he escapes he can't just hop in a shuttle and take off. . . . .
@steeltimberwolf
4 жыл бұрын
What's funny is that Suder killed a man and was sentenced to confinement in his quarters for life, Tom tries to save a civilization from destroying themselves and gets 30 days in the brig. Seems a bit harsh. Why not let him stay in his quarters like they allowed a confessed murderer do?
@valashar5313
4 жыл бұрын
Putting him in his quarters made sense because there he isn't permanently taking up a cell in the brig and no ship's personnel are used in monitoring him. All they had to do was put a permanent computer lockout on his door plus a physical reinforcement of same, restrict his replicator and computer access, and then basically forget about him outside of routine monitoring. 30 days in the brig is a cakewalk. And the 'guard' on Tom was just the duty officer, mainly there to make sure no prisoners were endangered during their stay.
@insertanynameyouwant5311
4 жыл бұрын
wasn`t he Maqui? then he was a minority, and we know the rest
@oldtwinsna8347
3 жыл бұрын
The bad judgment call is having Janeway devote a full time staffed security position to monitor Paris for no reason other than to showcase flexing her muscle and superiority over the issue. The ship was short staffed and every personnel was needed to keep the ship operational. Assigning 24x7 guard watch over something totally unnecessary deprived the entire ship of resources for no reason at all.
@Goodiesfanful
2 жыл бұрын
It was harsh. But confinement to quarters has far less dramatic impact than the brig for the story. Another use for the Prime Directive is that it helps keep you out of trouble - like spells in the brig.
@williamr1088
Жыл бұрын
@@valashar5313 A permanent computer lockout plus a Forcefield over the door as a extra layer of security. Either way he doesn't get contact with anyone other than the EMH Doctor visit to make sure he is healthy. It would still drive you nuts being locked in your own quarters away from your friends and the job you love and the girl you love for 30 days.
@Quirozom
4 жыл бұрын
Those cells have no toilets. Those are some inhumane brigs.
@HealthyKlingons
4 жыл бұрын
All waste is just beamed out.
@Aeroldoth3
4 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine they have hideaway toilets, which would actually make them nice, since you wouldn't have the constant smell.
@thiagodeandrade7081
4 жыл бұрын
People in the future do not need to use the bathroom. Have tou ever seen a bathroon at any Enterprise?
@oddish4352
4 жыл бұрын
@@thiagodeandrade7081 Did you see "First Contact", the movie? Geordi didn't get what "take a leak" meant.
@thiagodeandrade7081
4 жыл бұрын
@@oddish4352 Yep. To be fair, maybe he just did not know the slang, but it is strange. Maybe humans just do not need toilets anymore.
@timmachin3830
4 жыл бұрын
OK, where's the shitter? That is a tough punishment.
@keirfarnum6811
4 жыл бұрын
Tim Machin I thought it was called a “head” on a ship?! 😉
@ZEZERBING
4 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't Tuvok have given him a full body probing in case he was smuggling a shank, or something.
@nr1341
4 жыл бұрын
The computer just beams it right out of your colon
@dogkungfu8510
4 жыл бұрын
Push panel
@Luscapanapinterest
3 жыл бұрын
The wall, the computer sorts it out
@themasqueradingcow91
4 жыл бұрын
Still promoted faster than Harry Kim
@rickkoenig3793
4 жыл бұрын
themasqueradingcow91 white privilege
@akmi1931
Жыл бұрын
White?
@deletebilderberg
9 ай бұрын
@@rickkoenig3793 🙄
@oddish4352
7 ай бұрын
True. He got his hollow pip back for 1-1/2 years of exemplary service. Harry gave 7 and got nothing.
@PassportBrosBusinessClass
4 жыл бұрын
30 days solitary confinement is a decent punishment, but the last thing you want is your top pilot losing his mind
@emizerri
4 жыл бұрын
@Chet Carson this argument is silly, only one person to speak to at a time, no real exercise, only your thoughts to keep you haunting over (of which you will eventually run out of them) and awful food It's not gonna be a good time
@emizerri
4 жыл бұрын
Also being watched constantly for 30 days is clearly not ideal
@thiagodeandrade7081
4 жыл бұрын
@Chet Carson People like privacy. He does have to "write" his personal correspondence under the view of a guard.
@thiagodeandrade7081
4 жыл бұрын
@Chet Carson I was replying about what was the problem with having someone watching you all the time. Just that. Are you triggered? Do you need a safe space on the internet?
@Rawen1982
4 жыл бұрын
solitary confinement is a cruel and counterproductive punishment that was taken out of practice once already in the US because it did such damage to the mind. It's only the more recent pathetic, corrupt and shameful state of the US prison system that has allowed it to be used again.
@Shadowkey392
4 жыл бұрын
I do love that they went somewhat old-school with the Captain Proton stuff.
@jacksonheathen2092
4 жыл бұрын
Yep. But still, I think I'd find more interesting ways to use the holodeck.
@onlineamiga
4 жыл бұрын
A parody of 60s Sci Fi. Almost as old to voyager as to Voyager is to us today. Feel old now ?
@XanderShadow
4 жыл бұрын
This scene kind of pushed home an odd continuity issue for me... They have to preserve power where possible due to the expected long journey home on limited resources.. hence limiting replicator use n the like early in, having a hydroponics bay and a chef making food from ingredients... Lock him in a cell using a energy barrier as a door; rather than say his quarters and disabling it's amenities.
@ryavix
4 жыл бұрын
Well they kinda forgot that stuff halfway through season one.
@christopherg2347
4 жыл бұрын
This was an investment into the chain of command. It showed janeway was serious enough about this to "waste" power on it. Also, I wonder how you turn off the "space" amenity of Federation Quarters. Especially since he would have need a quarter for himself alone.
@mahj
4 жыл бұрын
What if it only consumes power when people are dumb enough to touch it?
@christopherg2347
4 жыл бұрын
@@mahj You mean a reactive force field, rather then a always on one? Seems way to insecure.
@robertagren9360
Жыл бұрын
It's not like he's able to escape the ship. Part of the prison, part of the crew.
@aperson22222
4 жыл бұрын
Thirty days in that cell? No company, no bathroom, no real bed, no entertainment, no mental stimulation at all, but no privacy either-He’s right, that _is_ cruel and unusual. It’s psychological torture, in fact; he’ll be lucky to come out with his sanity intact. Of course, it _is_ VGR, so there will be no lasting consequences after the episode is over.
@insertanynameyouwant5311
4 жыл бұрын
If Chief O`brian didn`t go insane after so many years in Cardassian prison what are 30 days for a Starfleet officer, lol just kidding
@Goodiesfanful
2 жыл бұрын
Tom has the advantage in that he has been imprisoned before, so he has more experience with prison and have coping mechanisms for it.
@Goodiesfanful
2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention having the same old stew for thirty days. But Starfleet brigs do have bathrooms, hidden behind a panel in the wall.
@safebox36
Жыл бұрын
He had guests visiting him, and he probably could have talked to the guards on duty. The bathroom slides out from the wall, we see it in the official schematics manual. No entertainment is a bit cruel I suppose, but most military prisons (and a worrying amount of US civilian prisons) don't provide such luxuries. I mean he was given a Padd, so he could have probably read a book on it.
@aperson22222
10 ай бұрын
@@safebox36 He didn’t get visits and the guards weren’t going to chat with him. At one point Neelix delivers food and Tom wants to chat, and Neelix says it’s not permitted. Come to think of it I wonder why they didn’t just beam food into his cell.
@Goodiesfanful
2 жыл бұрын
I like this story for focusing on the brig. The brig crops up a lot of times, but seldom do we have a story on it.
@andyh4518
4 жыл бұрын
The guard was probably bored out of his mind. Paris wasn't exactly a risk to bust out and run amuck.
@silverhawkflash
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Where would he escape to? Earth?
@oldtwinsna8347
3 жыл бұрын
Waste of resources as well, being the ship was short staffed to begin with. Poor judgment call on Janeway just to make a point. Keep Paris confined, sure, but don't make the rest of the ship crew suffer because of it.
@WardNightstone
4 жыл бұрын
30 days solitary with no "yard time" that's excessive even we let em out for an hour a day
@RoonMian
4 жыл бұрын
The UN called for its member states to prohibit solitary confinement of more than 15 days... You know, because everyone who studies it agrees that it's torture.
@Calzaki
4 жыл бұрын
This is a woman who ordered the use of chemical weapons while cradling a new born baby
@Calzaki
4 жыл бұрын
@@RoonMian and that didn't include visits from Neelix
@saintsinningsword
4 жыл бұрын
Why is Brexit a thing again when other countries want to dictate how you run your penal system?
@grfrog
4 жыл бұрын
@@saintsinningsword Because no country wants any other country to devolve to the point where THEY have to take refugees. Plus safer for your citizens doing business abroad. Plus some leaders have fundamental thoughts about basic human rights either through religion or founding principles of country.
@RobertdMacGregor
4 жыл бұрын
I think that humming from the force field would drive me mad more than anything
@TheYopogo
4 жыл бұрын
Solitary confinement is, in my view rightly, considered torture under international law.
@bingbongabinga2954
4 жыл бұрын
Torture works. That's why it is used.
@TheYopogo
4 жыл бұрын
@@bingbongabinga2954 Well, so do murder, rape and genocide. Doesn't mean they are therefore morally justified.
@keith3761
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you would be a lamb to criminals. They would chew you up and spit you out and you would come back and say your sorry to them. They would accept your apology and do the exact same thing to you or anyone else you left in their presence. Your like the women that apologized to her rapist. Pathetic.
@TheYopogo
3 жыл бұрын
@@keith3761 Torture is not an effective method of preventing recidivism.
@oddish4352
4 жыл бұрын
Too bad they wouldn't let Tom replicate a tennis ball to bounce off the walls a la "The Great Escape".
@hankkingsley2976
4 жыл бұрын
Baseball not a tennis ball.
@oddish4352
4 жыл бұрын
@@hankkingsley2976 Sorry, it's been awhile since I saw the movie. A baseball, then.
@wicreed
4 жыл бұрын
Cooler Ives
@ditzydoo4378
4 жыл бұрын
Also replicate him an early style baseball glove and old tattered sweat shirt, with dungarees to complete the image.. ^_^
@PassportBrosBusinessClass
4 жыл бұрын
So you mean to tell me in the future they have less of a safe system of passing a prisoner items like food than they did in the movie Silence of the Lambs when we saw Dr. Lecter in his cell??? Every single time you turn that force field off you’re taking a chance of the prisoner escaping. In fact: running that force field is a waste of energy.
@Aeroldoth3
4 жыл бұрын
Any power failure (hacking, failing parts, alien attack...) and they're free. And that's on top of wasting another crewmate who has to stand guard doing nothing.
@oddish4352
4 жыл бұрын
There might be failsafes, such as a self contained power supply. And in any case, Tom was not a violent prisoner. If he was, they could just beam in his rations.
@vexxama
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I feel like some things were just advanced for the sake of being advanced. If anything, they should have had two fields with a space between them to be turned on or off alternately to pass objects back and forth with no physical contact being possible
@ThePoshboy1
4 жыл бұрын
Where would they escape to? They aren't on earth where they can't be tracked.
@oddish4352
4 жыл бұрын
@@vexxama Instead of that, simply beam in his rations. Or, have a replicator in the Brig that doesn't respond to the prisoner's commands, but simply materializes a clean uniform daily and 700 calories worth of basic nutrition in the cell three times a day.
@Lanceb131
4 жыл бұрын
Little trivia for you. The rocket backpack at 4:40 stated his pants on fire during filming from what I know!
@donnierust4740
4 жыл бұрын
Solitary confinement... with a big window to see everyone .
@Tenshi962
4 жыл бұрын
It’s not a window it’s a force field
@oddish4352
7 ай бұрын
Actual solitary confinement was consider a crime against humanity in the 19th century. So presumably, by the 24th, "solitary" just means "no cellmate".
@ArK047
4 жыл бұрын
Not very solitary when there is a big picture window and conversation partners aplenty.
@MrStephenRGilman
4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention access to a computer (the PADD).
@RobertdMacGregor
4 жыл бұрын
@@MrStephenRGilman I'd imagine the pads would have basic info only, maybe a book or two. Not full access to databases.
@MrStephenRGilman
4 жыл бұрын
@@RobertdMacGregor But can they run Crysis? ;-)
@ryavix
4 жыл бұрын
My problem is the security officer just standing there.
@oddish4352
7 ай бұрын
Since actual solitary confinement was considered a crime against humanity by the 19th century, it's reasonable that by the 24th, the term has been redefined a bit.
@ShionWinkler
4 жыл бұрын
This actually makes little sense, Star Trek, more the point the Federation, according to Captain Jean Luc Picard "moved past cruel punishments", yet even in our own time solitary confinement is considered cruel and unusual punishment and even constitutes as form of torture, so I highly doubt it would be still in practice in the Federation.
@jetseekers
4 жыл бұрын
I would agree, but what alternative would there be for consequence aboard a starship on a long patrol with limited space, let alone the delta quadrant. Plus this solitary confiment seems far nicer than what we call solitary. Paris has got visitors(albeit very limited), aceess to information and such, plus a nice and roomy cell with a comfy bed and light. Unlike solitary confinement in our day which leaves an inmate locked in a room the size of a king size mattress for 20-23 hours a day with little light, no entertainment and no company.
@keith3761
3 жыл бұрын
Only considered cruel and unusual punishment by pussies. Hard men need hard punishments.
@freeagentforlife4717
4 жыл бұрын
He got off easy, in my opinion. Captain Sisko would have given him 6 months or more just like he did Garek. Captain Jellico? There wouldn’t have been a trial at all, if you know what I mean.
@steeltimberwolf
4 жыл бұрын
Jellico was just very by the book and did things the way he felt was most efficient. Picard allowed his crew to be more laid back in their daily routines.
@slinkerdeer
Жыл бұрын
Fancy spending 30 days in that cell with that bed, nothing to do and no1 to talk to?
@johnshafer7214
4 жыл бұрын
They never promoted Harry Kim to Lt JG.
@ProfArmitage218
4 жыл бұрын
When they were on DS9 in the first episode, it possible that Harry was served a drink by a young Ferengi. When Voyager returned home, that Ferengi outranked Harry.
@ohnemar4285
9 ай бұрын
Finally a little pause, nobody wants anything from me to solve.... Where to sign up for the brig?
@r0b0saurusrex80
4 жыл бұрын
I sentence you to 30 days solitary confinement.. "Hi Tom want a pizza?"
@tek512
9 ай бұрын
Tom did the right thing and got treated worse than Suder, and that dude killed a guy.
@Mocita
4 жыл бұрын
“I bet you’re wondering how I got here.”
@PassportBrosBusinessClass
4 жыл бұрын
They keep the lights turned way up? Wouldn’t that drive you insane?
@thehantavirus
4 жыл бұрын
yes, so does keeping someone in total darkness.
@oddish4352
4 жыл бұрын
It's possible that a prisoner is allowed to adjust the illumination of his or her cell, as long as they aren't a high risk for escape. Or, they could ask the guard to do it.
@valashar5313
4 жыл бұрын
SOP is likely to adjust the lights according to the ship's day/night cycle.
@oddish4352
4 жыл бұрын
@@valashar5313 Agreed. A set diurnal cycle would help the crew retain their sanity, after years in space.
@rhealsabourin5650
4 жыл бұрын
There are four lights!
@Rudirudel
4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one hoping there is a toilet hidden in the wall? Otherwise, after a few days we could only hope the force field also stops smell...
@gd.ritter
4 жыл бұрын
always was odd how few and far between restrooms were in trek. The Enterprise D with 1,000 people had 1 toilet.
@logicplague
4 жыл бұрын
@@gd.ritter Replicated food is so advanced that we don't produce waste? IDFK lol.
@DelcoRanz93
4 жыл бұрын
The Brig on the Enterprise-A had a toilet, Admittedly it was shown in Star Trek V and the lid wasn't up but still that shows there are toilets in starship brigs.
@SoranoGuardias
4 жыл бұрын
@@gd.ritter The Enterprise-D has two known heads, actually. The first was off the hallway to the Observation Lounge, the second was in the Captain's Ready Room.
@gd.ritter
4 жыл бұрын
@@logicplague They have stated in episodes before that the replicated food isn't real food. it's modeled to look and taste like the desired meal but is actually made up of nutritionally balanced stuff. i forget what episode but someone was asking for a real ice cream sundae or something and the computer told them no.
@MHSMokeEater
3 жыл бұрын
One step forward, two steps back.
@zlozlozlo
4 жыл бұрын
Remind me to cancel Mr. Paris's holodeck privileges.
@TazarZero
4 жыл бұрын
The Twin Mistresses of Evil.... yeah, I can see how that'd lead to 30 days in the brig.
@fishertheadore6095
3 жыл бұрын
For those that are Familiar, how would Captain Kirk or Captain Picard would have punished Paris?
@akmi1931
Жыл бұрын
Well, Kirk had to put Scotty and a few other in the brig that once for starting a fight with the Klingons. Picard would of immediately kicked him off the ship first chance he had.
@1TheNews
3 жыл бұрын
Another good episode. I liked that Paris was the main character...
@jutau
4 жыл бұрын
So when Tom needs to do his business, the guard gets to see everything?
@jenkinsbrian0126
4 жыл бұрын
right that is against the law and inhuman no matter what year
@nbartlett6538
4 жыл бұрын
Nobody in Star Trek ever goes to the toilet.
@jutau
4 жыл бұрын
We've only seen bathrooms, not the toilets specifically.
@dmclegg66
4 жыл бұрын
Have you forgotten how jail works? It's that way in every jail ever it's part of the punishment. Now I think it's not right but that's the way it is.
@jutau
4 жыл бұрын
@@dmclegg66 I have designed jails in my experience. So yes I know how jails work, and how they are laid out. Guards don't have front row viewing. But maybe the set designers don't think about realism.
@delavalmilker
7 ай бұрын
I truly believe that Parris was the hottest guy on Voyager.
@oldtwinsna8347
9 ай бұрын
Doctor should've been able to build a neuropathway device to deliver intense memories of living a lifetime in a prison within a matter of minutes in the real-world. This was used on O'Brien.
@oddish4352
7 ай бұрын
Why not an agony booth?
@MackAttack101
4 жыл бұрын
This is what the quarantine is like
@jacksonheathen2092
4 жыл бұрын
That's a bit of an exaggeration. I wear a mask when I go into a crowded store and try to stay 6ft away from people who I don't know. But unlike poor Tom Paris here, I think we're all still free to go pretty much wherever we want whenever we like.
@MackAttack101
4 жыл бұрын
Jackson Heathen that’s not quarantine then. Quarantine is staying in your house/home until an all clear is given. I don’t do that anymore, but at the beginning of the pandemic I did and this is what’s it’s like.
@flybeep1661
4 жыл бұрын
@@MackAttack101 Lol, nothing like quarantine. Cry baby. Yes, I quarantined as well.
@kellyberry
4 жыл бұрын
Tom and myself have something in common we both did 30 days in Jail then a day Later Police madeup a charge wich landed me in jail for another 3 days both times the Judge threw my case out the window and ordered I be released immediantly The Charges were not Felonies I am so Grateful the Judge got me out he didbt seem to happy with Officers who threw me in jail to begin with even the prosucuter was annoyed someoe was watching out for me when the Judges threw the case out I forgot to Mention The got me Court ordered Bail in the 3rd day of the 3 days i Spent in jail the 2nd time around They told me a court rep came over and paid my fine im not sure who it was cause I dont have many friends and my BirthParents hated my guts im not joking they told me to my face once and I dont know how they blame me for the mistakes they made in life
@Blackwater_House
4 жыл бұрын
30 Days of uninterrupted Peace and Quiet would be Absolutely Beautiful, but I’m the only person in this Facility who can Fly the Shuttle, so every time they need to Go Out I get disturbed. And Full Pay No Work is just like being on a Holiday, except On Holiday I can actually Get Peace and Quiet not simply the notion of it. And every Meal Time I have to walk to The Galley to Collect My Meal because Room Service isn’t available. And every time I want to use the Head I have to walk there too (and My Species generally require the Head a Dozen Times a Day). I did ask for Bricks and Cement to Wall Up My Doorway but that Request was Denied. Fortunately I did manage to sneak the Remote Control for the Television into the Head during one of My visits and so far they haven’t yet located it. And every time I plan a little self exercise I get an interruption and have to stop. Amazing how many of the people from whom I’m supposed to be isolated from, find excuses to visit Me, on some pretext or other.
@TimpossibleOne
4 жыл бұрын
Tom got demoted and re-promoted and poor Harry is still an ensign
@Norinia
4 жыл бұрын
In some defense, all rankings given could easily be ripped away by some petty starfleet desk offical when they made it back home.
@oldtwinsna8347
3 жыл бұрын
Worse yet, he got a reprimand on his record for trying to get some alien ass when every other crew member was doing the same without even anyone blinking.
@EvilXero359
5 ай бұрын
Tom Paris, the crime that you have been found guilty of, is being innocent of being Jack Sparrow. I hearby commute your sentence, and order that you be imprisoned for the remainder of your miserable moribund life.
@Steven-lz7on
4 жыл бұрын
Hard to imagine how boring 30 days in that brig would be, seems harsh for what he did.
@flybeep1661
4 жыл бұрын
He's got a padd to entertain him, so he can read books and probably listen to music. Also it seems people are free to visit and talk to him. Harsh is having no toilet lol.
@darthhauler9947
4 жыл бұрын
Try being a truck driver. It's about the same
@gawainethefirst
4 жыл бұрын
Captain’s Mast.
@dogkungfu8510
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what happens when you poop on the brig's forcefield. Is it like pooping on a wall? Does it slide down? Get stuck? Vaporize? Sizzle? "Oh! There is a toilet in here. Push panel... huh, who knew?" 😁
@silverhawkflash
4 жыл бұрын
Should he have opted for the Court Martial? It'd be a while before it would convene for him.
@Mark-xh8md
4 жыл бұрын
Well, there were three command-level officers present: Janeway, Chakotay, Tuvok. One judge, one defender (Likely Tuvok) and one prosecutor. A court-martial WOULD technically have been possible, but what's the point?
@dogkungfu8510
4 жыл бұрын
"I demand trial by combat!" 😁
@Calzaki
4 жыл бұрын
Note: solitary confinement is mostly considered a human rights crime in many parts of the world even in 2020. Then again, this is Janeway who once ordered the use of chemical weapons while cradling a baby in her arms. Plus she made it worse: solitary confinement EXCEPT when Neelix visits!
@cstgraphpads2091
4 жыл бұрын
Such as where?
@Calzaki
4 жыл бұрын
@@cstgraphpads2091 not a very detailed article but it's the first that came up as part of a long list on Google www.amnestyusa.org/the-shocking-abuse-of-solitary-confinement-in-u-s-prisons/ and www.hrweb.org/legal/cat.html
@akmi1931
Жыл бұрын
Solitary confinement isn’t a human rights violation unless it exceeds a certain number of days and involves rooms that are designed to cut people off from anything outside that room. Solitary confinement use to involve locking someone in a 6x6 room with no windows or anyway of telling time or human contact beyond a port in which to pass food. A 30 day sentence in a Star Fleet brig is a resort compared to that.
@STEJTHEGREATEST
9 ай бұрын
0:10 She took the pip very roughly and abruptly, didn't she? :(
@cush6827
2 жыл бұрын
Janeway was wrong. She should have aided Paris instead of protecting ignorant criminals.
@PassportBrosBusinessClass
4 жыл бұрын
NO TOILET??? 🚽 NO SHOWER 🚿
@jacksonheathen2092
4 жыл бұрын
You really don't see many toilets in Star Trek. But what I always wondered about more was where the toilet facilities were on the shuttle craft. The Delta Flyer was obviously big enough to have a bathroom. But not so much on the small one room shuttle pods in TNG & Voyager. In fact sometimes multiple crewmembers went on trips that were supposed to last hours or days. So I guess you just had to pull a bucket out from somewhere and take a reeking dump in the tiny cabin while everyone else sat there watching you.
@johnlloyddy7016
4 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking they'd probably get the holo program to create and materialize a toilet bowl inside the enclosure then teleport the waste elsewhere. Same with showers.
@Pyxis10
4 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonheathen2092 In Tng at least they had them hidden in the walls. They popped out when needed, and retracted when not in use. I wouldn't be surprised if it were similiar here.
@jacksonheathen2092
4 жыл бұрын
@@Pyxis10 Maybe so. 😁
@erichanastacio9695
4 жыл бұрын
Probably beam them out of the body and replicate as photon torpedo warhead materials.
@Barcodum
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they can make the force field opaque (from the inside out) and soundproof.
@keith3761
3 жыл бұрын
He could just go on a hunger strike and cause them issues.
@nelsonsack2694
9 ай бұрын
How come his hair didn't grow?
@lordtutinean90
4 жыл бұрын
Tom... GO MIKEY ‼️‼️‼️
@JonBaldock
4 жыл бұрын
That's what you get for Farting on the Bridge.
@icer1249
4 жыл бұрын
Was there really any point to demoting him? It's not like it matters on the ship.
@Rembanspellsong
4 жыл бұрын
it doesn't matter on the ship, but as Janeway is still attempting to follow starfleet rules and regs she had to follow precedent and law. It also keeps her from looking like she is showing favoritism.
@r0bw00d
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, while stranded in the Delta Quadrant, the act is more symbolic than functional.
@dogkungfu8510
4 жыл бұрын
It's also to see how he handles it, i.e. does he get resentful and bitter. Him handling it well also starts to rebuild trust. If he sulks and slacks as an ensign, you have to take him off the senior staff, which would be the real demotion. It was a test. He passes, and gets promoted back to lt. You have to admit it would be humilating at first walking around the ship with everyone calling you ensign again.
@LGranthamsHeir
4 жыл бұрын
So now Tom shares another similarities with Harry...They're both Ensigns :)
@oddish4352
4 жыл бұрын
The difference is, Tom didn't stay one. Janeway really had a vendetta against Harry. He got promoted (or was close to it) in four alternate timelines, all of which Janeway was either dead or he wasn't under her command.
@LGranthamsHeir
4 жыл бұрын
Good point indeed...
@peachesrambo4037
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many here spent any time in solidarity confinement? I spent 25 years working at a supermax prison, and we dont do that to anyone. It causes severe mental degradation and psychotic episodes. What the Capt did was grounds for immediate dismissal and court martial.
@valashar5313
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah... compare Tom's solitary to what we do to our prisoners these days. We put people in a postcard sized cell and shut them off from nearly all sensory input and social contact. Tom had a comfortably sized cell with all (very) basic amenities, regular visitors, a varied if limited diet prepared by the ship's chef instead of replicated prison rations, and was given a tablet (PADD I think they're called in the series) to access information and basic entertainment. Hardly harsh punishment. And if you feel the need to question my knowledge of such things, I've BEEN in solitary in the US prison system. 46 days.
@peachesrambo4037
4 жыл бұрын
@@valashar5313 then son, I feel sorry for you. No one should go through what you did. But you also have to understand and think like someone from the star trek universe. Thier prisons are not for hurting people but to help them, the mindset is all different from ours today. Swedish prisons are so mu h different than the US, its ridiculous. To Tom, what the capt did to him, was just as bad then as what happends today.
@stevepettersen3283
4 жыл бұрын
Ooh, conjugal visits with Seven?
@Savoots
2 жыл бұрын
Is there even a toilet in the brig?
@bulldawgs2002
4 жыл бұрын
30 Days and no toilet privileges? Damn!..lol
@alexiachimciuc3199
4 жыл бұрын
Solitary my ass.
@Harrisonsinternalmed
4 жыл бұрын
23rd century quarantine
@albert_kempowillenborg1707
6 ай бұрын
What did he do?
@zenairzulu1378
9 ай бұрын
BTW Solitary Confinement is Torture in the 21st century soooooo
@nuclearthreat545
4 жыл бұрын
Grounded
@jenkinsbrian0126
4 жыл бұрын
my question is where is the tolet and sink lol not one in there
@Dirtfire
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think toilets exist in Star Trek. I don't recall ever seeing one in any Star Trek show.
@HelenaRG71
4 жыл бұрын
I am wondering... what about showering in there?
@NyuuMikuru1
4 жыл бұрын
HelenaRG71 It’s there, hidden in one of the panel. Guard just activate shower selection for daily shower. Screen goes dark for private use.
@btqy
4 жыл бұрын
He didn't shower till Tuvok let him out.
@tigersharkzh
4 жыл бұрын
Such an advanced culture yet they still use incarceration as a punishment.... what a joke.
@martinmanifold2241
4 жыл бұрын
Humanity never changes...3000, 2000 ,1000, 500, 100 50 years ago they still needed cells ..... ....even in the 30th century ...there will still be a need for prison cells ......humanity never changes
@misterlau5246
Жыл бұрын
Where did he pee and poop? I didn't see a toilet there
@LDZMarder
4 жыл бұрын
so 30 days vacation.
@PassportBrosBusinessClass
4 жыл бұрын
Where/when did he get clothes?
@jacksonheathen2092
4 жыл бұрын
I suppose someone had to bring him clean clothes, and they must have had a sonic shower somewhere there in the brig area that they let him out for a few minutes a day to use. That's my guess anyway.
@oddish4352
4 жыл бұрын
Possibilities: 1. Beamed in. 2. Hidden compartment in brig had shower, toilet, and replicator that wasn't under Tom's control. 3. He was escorted to his quarters for a few minutes a day.
@btqy
4 жыл бұрын
He didn't shower till Tuvok let him out.
@dominikdobrotic8298
4 жыл бұрын
He puts his shoes on the bed!?!?
@jutau
4 жыл бұрын
Most of the ship is pretty clean unless they go on away missions. It's carpeted everywhere on that ship.
@HogTieChamp
4 жыл бұрын
Even in the United Federation of Planets, the Americans still do weird stuff.
@wklis
4 жыл бұрын
Where's the toilet?
@bluehavencd
4 жыл бұрын
30 days no fap either.
@flybeep1661
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is solitary but come on, not really. Btw, where does he shit? I guess he does it on the ground and it gets beamed away lol.
@Eventallermidgett
4 жыл бұрын
#Tom Paris did nothing wrong!
@oddish4352
4 жыл бұрын
Apparently Janeway didn't agree. She was ready to kill him to stop him. Clearly, allowing the ocean residents to continue to destroy it was very important to her.
@dmclegg66
4 жыл бұрын
No, he did do wrong What he intended was noble but how he did it was not it was terrorism that has never brought a positive change, Look at 911 sure they hurt us but they also caused the Iraque war the Afghan war the means don't justify the ends.
@oddish4352
4 жыл бұрын
@@dmclegg66 The Taliban caused the Afghanistan war, when they didn't hand Bin Laden and his Al Qaeda allies over to us after 9/11.
@Goodiesfanful
2 жыл бұрын
He broke the Prime Directive, took things into his own hands with strong-arm tactics, and nearly got Voyager into armed conflict with another race. Sorry, Tom, but if the aliens are going to destroy themselves because they won't listen, it's their problem and they'll have to stew in it. Your problem is getting back to the Alpha Quadrant.
@attiepollard7847
4 жыл бұрын
I'm seeing comments about how bad solitary confinement is and yes it may be a violation of the United Nations rules but as long as basic human needs are being given then we should have nothing to say about it.
@QPRTokyo
4 жыл бұрын
I could never stand her voice 😜
@geekazoid
4 жыл бұрын
Watching this boring clip felt like solitary confinement.
@frankcastle9691
4 жыл бұрын
This was the worst star trek series.
@bemasaberwyn55
4 жыл бұрын
Someone's forgetting the series that actually ended with turning their lead into Space Jesus. After merely suggesting it for 6 seasons
@frankcastle9691
4 жыл бұрын
@@bemasaberwyn55 who was space Jesus?
@bemasaberwyn55
4 жыл бұрын
@@frankcastle9691 Sisko. Named as messiah by the Bajorans(Emmisary) Ended up being half prophet. And then dying and coming back from the dead(in a sense)
@frankcastle9691
4 жыл бұрын
@@bemasaberwyn55 deep space 9 was really good. The Jesus stuff didn't happen till the last season.
@bemasaberwyn55
4 жыл бұрын
@@frankcastle9691 the Emmisary bit started in the very first episode. That the soap opera drama. The 5 years of build up to the war which was only about a third of the final 2 seasons. All of it contributed to why DS9 was INFERIOR to Voyager in every aspect. In fact during my 50th anniversary canon run the season between TNG ending and Voyager beginning was a slog to get through (the next one was Enterprise season 3)
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