I miss the old Vale. His old mechanics where you get to choose between CC or burst skills is what made him unique in-game.
@Screeching_bird
8 ай бұрын
Yeah but the burst path outshined the CC one in almost any senario, except for the tornado, but thats just because the other one just sucked
@berliandro
8 ай бұрын
But everyone will pick the same path, so what's the point
@jdaniels4898
8 ай бұрын
Problem is, old vale had BOTH cc from skill2 and damage from skill1 and ult, so i don't understand how people claim that "now he has better cc". Now he has about the same cc, with no damage at all, regardless how you build it, it won't be the same. With skill1 and 2 he barely scratched that Alpha...Tanks will be just able to walk you down, taking all your skills and still coming at you, if your teammates are shite, and not ready to use the moment, while he is knocked up. Which is common for soloq. So many times i found myself in such situation, when we were just outgunned from the start of the game, as enemies don't have to respect your damage as it was before (cc is mostly unchanged, as his pull from ult is just a joke, enemies can just walk out of it without much issue, so your only reliable cc is still skill2). Before, they were getting enough of damage, which made them be more cautious, retreat and regroup and stuff, now he is much less of a value team player, as old Vale could do EVERYTHING new Vale has now, all while having considerably bigger damage output. 😐
@carltolentino3471
8 ай бұрын
@@berliandroi dont
@elpapuxDDReal
6 ай бұрын
@Screeching_bird not really lol, once you see the disadvantages with damage vale you would use cc ult plus damage tornado combo, if you trapped more than 1 person it was a guaranteed kill of the 2 and if not he would be heavily damage. Plus now vale doesn't counter glu
@somedude8131
8 ай бұрын
1:06 Ah yes, my favorite mm, dyrroth.
@Alyx_Knight
8 ай бұрын
😂😂
@tictoe7701
8 ай бұрын
@Betosky 😂😂
@itgirl8674
8 ай бұрын
If Betosky says so then yes he is a Marksman.
@noonereally_
8 ай бұрын
Xd
@fernandonunez7108
8 ай бұрын
lets be real, mm always dies first
@Delita22
8 ай бұрын
for me, it's not his damage that's the problem... it's his unique versatility where we can chose to prioritize cc or damage.
@RTONL
8 ай бұрын
Sure, his unique versatility where everyone still using that same burst type damage, is so much "unique". Like, I have never seen many players even use the CC version of his skill, but just that same skill set, because everyone wants a kill, not to support someone. So, I kinda choose the latest revamp of Vale, because its more honestly better, when you get your skill up to lvl 4, than waiting for level 8 to have that damage ult. Its not about the uniqueness that shapes Vale, but only the damage because people like to one shot everything. But if I have the ability to control everyone in a distance, then lucky me, I can still spam his CC like there's no limit.
@alanedgarfillinpillin8880
6 ай бұрын
@@RTONL you get the control ult and the damage tornado, glowing and blazing wands, maybe even winter: you use your ult, then tornado and an enemy (the more the better) just melts away. That was one of the two ways to play Vale. There were two, not one.
@benji7449
8 ай бұрын
His rework is such a nerf,now you literally need to use all of his skills to one shot heroes,before his ult and his second was all you need,basically eudora 2.0 with more cc before all you needed was the ult and second combo
@jamezjamez5572
8 ай бұрын
Nope, use support emblem and use the build similar to Lylia, spec on mov speed on tier 1 and tier 2 IF there are sustain heroes like Ruby, Uranus, Estes, and much more
@SrilekhaDutta-cz9vu
8 ай бұрын
Yeah just skill is needed extra right now
@davidking360
8 ай бұрын
So you’re saying he needs skill to use now?
@variamente6855
8 ай бұрын
Vale is no longer a one shot mage and that is by intention, you're supposed to play him as a support ultility mage now. Quit complaining and adapt to it
@babyunicorn7954
8 ай бұрын
I stopped playing nana and vale after revamp, but ima try vale and hope I like it
@campingscorpion5522
8 ай бұрын
as a vale main, one thing to note now is that his first skill is his main damage output now, as long as you can hit both wind blades it will do a decent chunk of damage
@AbdulHaseeb-pk7nq
8 ай бұрын
The humble personality ❤ Watching from Pakistan, mianwali ❤
@vladislavkurasov4028
8 ай бұрын
Grapeeeee 👏
@rabbyte4243
8 ай бұрын
Boom 💥
@jamezjamez5572
8 ай бұрын
Betosky, use support emblem and spec to mov speed if there are sustain heroes, go for the Lylia build Edit: main gimmick of this is just rotate often and get assists, with the help of the mov speed specs from what I recommended
@a-noobis1689
8 ай бұрын
Yes, his mov. Speed late game is insane and he's better off being an annoying skill spammer
@ispeakcockney5387
8 ай бұрын
I don't think your build will work for solo queue because the damage is bad. Relying on your teammates to be the damage dealer is very difficult
@BryanAdams022
8 ай бұрын
Epic
@yvreii8990
8 ай бұрын
Lmaooo I ain’t never playing this man again, I’m so sad they do him like that
@lyndaek99
8 ай бұрын
Me too. As an ex vale main
@sumanborua7249
8 ай бұрын
6:46 that diggie ks tho.
@acehunt0403
8 ай бұрын
1:05 i guess dyrroth is a marksman now😂
@KazeKage_B
8 ай бұрын
Those digie bombs in the end tho 😝🤣🤣 He's such a menace!! Can you try Natan next please?
@Bloody-Lord-25
8 ай бұрын
3:00 man that layla 🤣🤣
@argussahamai6956
8 ай бұрын
That KS was karma because of your last Nana match. 😂 3:00
@yobyobquiano53
2 ай бұрын
The only thing that I don’t like about vale is the fact that it’s so easy to get out of his ult 😢 especially heroes that have dashes that don’t rely on flicker too much
@toxicfan6521
8 ай бұрын
6:48 how did diggie managed to get that kill damn
@kcinos2524
8 ай бұрын
It's been 2years watching ur videos beto .this is my first comment I like how you play n ur explanation ✨
@reality_0169
8 ай бұрын
I liked old vale better, now i cant even get kills at early game when using vale
@dapidminiAiki
4 ай бұрын
agreed. as a Vale main (he was the first mage hero I bought), I do miss his old version but his current version is also bad*ss.. I just hope people won't start banning or picking him more often
@aden24b89
8 ай бұрын
6:47 how diggy got the kill???
@Linkandzeldarules
8 ай бұрын
@06:45 I had no idea diggie could kill steal as an egg. 😮
@Matsuna13
8 ай бұрын
That can happen, because his egg form has a bit of damage
@Linkandzeldarules
8 ай бұрын
@@Matsuna13 I mean yeah I get it… but I guess I just didn’t expect that it could actually happen.
@crowofjudgement8810
5 ай бұрын
Yeah I tried him today for the first time and while you do often need the 2, 1, 3 combo to 1 shot someone, his cc is stronger now and his skills have a short cooldown, longer range and casting speed, unless the enemy had a cc immunity ability or dashes or flickers away before the ult explodes then almost nobody can escape. Because of his passive as well its very easy to chase or run away from enemies, you can run into a teamfight pop your combo and then be out.
@Mudkipz-rt8li
8 ай бұрын
The rework of LT also impacted his damage output cuz it's impossible to reach 1000 in real matches
@b1_nkK.
8 ай бұрын
I think it's better for him to have 2 knock ups (first is the first contact, then 2nd is if the tornado becomes static). There's no point in having a static tornado if you successfully combo it with his ult (meaning if you do 2nd-ult combo)
@patsoy1329
8 ай бұрын
4:48 DIGGIE KILLED ARGUS? THIS IS STUPID
@lakraknjeprak2536
8 ай бұрын
he and vexana is actually cc lord that could be useful if the enemy team have low mobility and weak to crowd control. and your team should've picked wombo combo by picking tigreal, atlas, or guinevere for example. and ofcourse this won't work if the enemy team picked too much high mobility heroes or cc immunity such as martis, masha, hanabi, wanwan, ect.
@trafalgarleaf
8 ай бұрын
They made Vale just like any mage out there, a CC burst type hero
@ChinYung-l5d
8 ай бұрын
As an ex main vale, still not convinced after watching this video, though I desperately hope that a useful build could revive my Vale from coffin (spent diamonds buying all Vale skins). With those greedy enemies and late game allies, every single mage could do the same victory as Beto achieves. With him not being burst, there are many others heroes with better utility functions and with higher damage, hence why vale? He does not stand out. So still holding hope for developers to buff him a little to make him at least able to slash enemy HP by more than half with full combo when it comes to third item.
@lovelyyyme8061
8 ай бұрын
Next Valir please, his brother 😫🙏
@nikhilshah8700
8 ай бұрын
I'll tell you what to do now with vale as per my opinion I've used. Use his ultimate first now to gain enemies in middle then use second skill and then first skill for final damage. This is his new skill set Ultimate>Second Skill>First Skill. This works very well now. I used to love him before revamp one. Well try for yourself this combo. Hope it helps.
@adersonnyt
8 ай бұрын
Totally felt how the Alpha feel @ 4.49 of ur vids...hate those feeling entering the game thinking that it is guaranteed win suddenly realized there is an even better player in the field building up....
@JSFrederic
8 ай бұрын
The damage drop is just to make you more aware who to aim for
@muwerezanakachwa7058
8 ай бұрын
6:50 ridiculous diggie kill wen he's dead
@nzn24
3 ай бұрын
Vale really got nerfed...but somehow i managed to make better vale with the proper build....but i really miss the old mechanics.
@scoutneptune5040
8 ай бұрын
How did Diggie kill Argus at 6:49 if he was dead? Lmao
@ejazali-pw9yd
8 ай бұрын
Or How about Selling boots When have full Stacks on Passive and Buying a Magic Damage Items To Get better results in the end game
@indialegends5785
8 ай бұрын
From where you got those background musics?
@chemical1274
8 ай бұрын
beto can swap genius wand with enchant talisman, vale will have spamable and ulti will ready every 17s and 15s if with buff or blue potion,
@garyryan697
8 ай бұрын
did anyone notice that dead diggie KS ? 😂😂
@rudolftang4750
8 ай бұрын
i hate solo but my friends dont like the game.....stuck between legend 5 and 3
@blykee3
8 ай бұрын
When is the next collab with kookmon?👀
@papap9379
8 ай бұрын
i experimented vale as roamer with dire hit boots. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME i mean RG
@Diobrandomeow
3 ай бұрын
Why not use flame shot? It adds more damage in the early game
@weala666
8 ай бұрын
vale and cici's combo is really good u should try
@haiffy
8 ай бұрын
Back then, i can just use skill 2 CC and skill 1 DMG + flameshot to kill mages/mm/assassin (assuming they have no magic res item), now, even with ult sometimes they even survive. And he can barely deal damage to tanks😢
@dgmojojojo
8 ай бұрын
The problem is now we dont get to choose between CC or dmg. We forced to be CC but the dmg is nerfed to oblivion. They should make the dmg is in somewhere in between those former options
@prakashima
8 ай бұрын
How did Diggie get that kill??? 6:49
@fjordan2345
8 ай бұрын
Honestly, you use him for his CC effects now. I think he's still playable, but hes not a burst mage anymore imo
@yaagodourado
8 ай бұрын
Sorry Beto, but tbh, new vale sucks a lot. I used to main him but now...
@chaneenee1560
8 ай бұрын
Old was good it feels like my skin got nerf too😒😒
@gonzalorios9047
8 ай бұрын
i like more the old vale now is like a poking mage but with a "explosive" ult. i think is too bad right now. Befor was so dificult to scape from his combo u have a 0.1 second to make a flicker o inmune but now u have too much time and a lot of heros has flash habilities
@ChinYung-l5d
8 ай бұрын
Previous combo of 2-3-1 was so hard to escape. Right now I don't even care if escaping during mid game. I know I will be fine.
@dimalisovyk5277
8 ай бұрын
Even though you played well it still looks the old Vale with a bit more CC and no damage
@ChinYung-l5d
8 ай бұрын
Exactly. Tbh it's unfair to conclude that a hero is good with just one game. In this game Beto doesn't really have lots of epic moment to show how good Vale is. In fact the mm was the highlight. He had the title saying he's good, but with no justification in the video other than the bare mention of his speed
@candlejaw7657
8 ай бұрын
Day 6 asking betosky to play ling
@exotropia7702
8 ай бұрын
.,i really like this new vale.. especially in late game.. btw i don't use boots on vale..
@Tyrant7254
8 ай бұрын
Yeah mate u should try dyrroth marksman he's good actually
@HarveyJohnDeLaPaz
8 ай бұрын
Betosky shout out sir I'm in Philippines I'm your fan ❤
@BooTao7.15
8 ай бұрын
ohmyvee said vale is now good for roaming
@SastaMLBB
8 ай бұрын
Vale surely lacks damage now. I use him as a utility mage now just like vaxana with 45% cd.
@vanquishedco.8467
8 ай бұрын
He can still combo squishies fr
@fbi559
8 ай бұрын
ODETTE OVERBUFF deal, can solo tank with radiant armor
@zackzoom8779
8 ай бұрын
It's not like she couldn't back then, her damage is a mix between small but multiple and big.
@fbi559
8 ай бұрын
@@zackzoom8779 no she literally dealt 11k dmg to me (tigreal) with radiant and jester boot
@fbi559
8 ай бұрын
@@zackzoom8779 late game i already full build plus i have twillight too to avoid the burst
@zackzoom8779
8 ай бұрын
@@fbi559 Athena is better against odette due to its damage reduction which affects both of her damage types
@fbi559
8 ай бұрын
@@zackzoom8779 their team has helcurt that's why
@Ciloteille
8 ай бұрын
They combined all the abilities you could have selected. Faster on some, knockup, and DPS. It's pretty good. If he used his second skill for the DPS. It does a lot of poke.
@zackzoom8779
8 ай бұрын
His 2nd skill lasting tornado damage is situational, you won't be able to hit the enemy with it all the time
@noobasfboii9524
3 ай бұрын
I hit up a halh hp moskov and ulted him and bro did not die if that was the old vale bro would've gotten obliterated
@lotuszen8690
8 ай бұрын
I don't understand why people complain the build I use on vale has stupid amount of damage Betosky build actually is bad on vale certain items don't work well on vale like before I'm one shooting all squishy heroes and tanks barely stay alive so pls don't say vale is more support now he is actually a beast now in proper hands
@kyleestrullo762
8 ай бұрын
He's weak now😢 good cc but less damage. They removed his ult stack!
@IshitonKEWLmembers
8 ай бұрын
A wrong statement here around 1:04 on. Dyrroth your fighter is dead not your marksman. However you said “it’s only diggie and me, not much we could have done to avenge our marksman.” Small error here
@Ifkeverybrainrot
8 ай бұрын
🤓👆
@Stfuim_speaking22
8 ай бұрын
Try putting ice queen wand on your build it is amazing
@tedwintheslyfox9382
8 ай бұрын
I'd say his 1st skill needs a damage buff, other than that he's a decent mage.
@BufferRen
8 ай бұрын
6:48 how the hell
@Williamknight740
8 ай бұрын
Day 7 of asking Betosky to do a sniper only challange with Beatrix in classic
@pandaescarlate7268
8 ай бұрын
for me as a vale main from the time i was LITERALLY called troll EVERYTIME i lock vale ( yes vale was considered worst than old layla) all this buffs are so unnecessary. yall just too dumb to know how to play him properly
@ChinYung-l5d
8 ай бұрын
Still not convinced sorry. All mages can do the job with your allies lining and trolling enemies. Nowadays whenever I see a Vale in enemy line up I'm so sure one less enemy to worry. Don't even need any magic defense. I'm used to be a Vale main.
@rikhildudhat3443
8 ай бұрын
hey beto when u revel your face bro😅
@kalaivarmapanadian8977
8 ай бұрын
Play Layla. Late game super damage. U might get Savage...
@xvideos6851
8 ай бұрын
Minuto 6:49 diggie lo remata estando muerto lol es la primera vez que veo pasar eso jaja
@clownhcr2734
8 ай бұрын
Vale, for me went from a burst mage to a supporting mage due to his CC ult.
@piishang8626
8 ай бұрын
Fr
@MyTran-gn4rk
8 ай бұрын
You prob could just pick Nana as a burst mage since she’s like the most picked in every rank bracket right now ever since her buff. Vale’s new 2nd skill and ultimate makes him good for zoning and control and while yes, his damage is lower than the damage upgrade iteration, It is still enough to kill squishy when he starts scaling with some items.
@darkdarts8689
8 ай бұрын
Try cd build with cd boot, light tr., book, power crys, blood w, 1def item or pene...
@elpapuxDDReal
6 ай бұрын
Fr
@TEMCHA12
8 ай бұрын
Old vale : i can make anyone shit in their pants New vale : i shit my pants when i see an enemy Edit : i didnt expect for this to get 229 likes
@cosmiclives111
8 ай бұрын
Yeahh I'm so disappointed he was my main hero 🤧
@guestjois7352
8 ай бұрын
Old vale : i can scare all and one shot even the tanks most of the time New vale : i cant scare shit and never one shots anyone
@yanzin2u
8 ай бұрын
Really frustrated on the "barely one-shotting" them. Like how did you live through Vale's combo and escape with your life??
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
8 ай бұрын
Whenever I see a Vale pick, I just counter him with Arlott. I only lose to Vale if some Tigreal user stun-locked me to oblivion.
@TEMCHA12
8 ай бұрын
@yanzin2u its just for joke no offense here okay?
@Miumiu0404
8 ай бұрын
Layla really shines in chaotic team fights like this. She gets easily ignored. Probably why she will never be picked in high level or pro scenes. Pro players know better than to ignore her.
@yanzin2u
8 ай бұрын
The Layla carried the team in the end, she may have struggled earlier but her damage just melted Alpha haha
@robinbooysen1068
8 ай бұрын
And then there is me, who bullies all the layla players with Wanwan
@goofygoober1057
8 ай бұрын
@@robinbooysen1068idk what kinda server you in but those Layla players dog shit I mean come on let’s face the facts Layla erases Wan late game she has more range than her Wan can’t get close to her late game
@lewis0285
7 ай бұрын
@@robinbooysen1068and you probably have only met the dumb laylas
@skylarduckky3389
7 ай бұрын
@@robinbooysen1068 low rank :
@overdosegaming4677
8 ай бұрын
Bro, he had such nice and unique skill sets before rework.I have no idea why they did him like that
@iWizxrd_
8 ай бұрын
0:59 dyrroth is truly one of the marksmen of legends of mobile
@locnguyen5635
8 ай бұрын
😂
@Aimdoo
8 ай бұрын
He truly was a unique hero...rip
@Catalyst_Zzz
8 ай бұрын
6:47 that epic killsteal by diggie tho
@vinceojeda7215
7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂. Underrated comment
@i-dk.
8 ай бұрын
1:07 "To avenge our marksman"?
@crazycat757
8 ай бұрын
i love beto missed his skills again and again😂 feels like beto is 1:48 also human.😂 1:53
@KYOOOKKOO123
8 ай бұрын
Burst vale is definitely fun to use but this utility mage vale is not that bad too. You can cc your enemies to death.
@Gord_Plays
8 ай бұрын
Tbh the old vale was more deadly. With old vale i got 70% winrate in 250+ matches
@DREAMGHOST17
8 ай бұрын
I know you won't answer me, but my friend has been playing for four years, and I have been playing for about a year, and he challenged me to win against me when he uses Son against Arlott, and I say the opposite. Then he defeated me and kept provoking me and saying that Arlott is weak, so I ask you: Is Arlott good or bad against Son? If you see the comment, put a heart so I know it is bad or not, and put a dot or anything if it is the opposite, and thank you for reading all of this.
@iamnobody350
8 ай бұрын
I think vale is mainly a poke hero now, which is fine since he's supposed to be a utility mage. Just build CD reduction and you're good
@Vegeta_MLBB
8 ай бұрын
I am KZitemr with less view but I am not giving up ❤❤😅😊
@user-lp6xn6jl8w
8 ай бұрын
I find the new vale to not really go with me anymore. What i loved about Vale was his burst damage. I never trust the team i get in soloq so it was good to pick off mm and mage during teamfights but now? It isnt really viable. Any hero with dash can escape or eat me alive. Mm with gold rose meteor or Athena Shield are unkillable now
@WhyIsMyNameTaken
8 ай бұрын
1:07 dyrroth's honor turned to dust cuz he is being called a marksman
@reaperandyel
8 ай бұрын
He took more time to power spike now but on the contrary, he can support his team earlier with s2 cc. Personally, I go for Clock of Destiny first since we're not going crazy in early game anyway and the Elegant Gem can provide a lot of sustainability to farm longer as well.
@DimoDimoo
8 ай бұрын
Or you can think the opposite to not go Clock so that you reach your power spike quicker.
@deadman873
8 ай бұрын
Let's face it, COD is dead .....
@flohoshino4974
8 ай бұрын
I think ET is more better than COD, since LT doesn't scales Mana anymore but Magic Power. If you want to have sustainability, 2nd talents like Festival of Blood, or Tenacity can help you.
@Xelion1234
8 ай бұрын
Day 14 of asking Betosky to play Harith! (Help me I haven't slept for 2 nights)
@Ornyl
8 ай бұрын
Gotta say i don't like it. And people who say he needs skills😂😂...spamming skills doesn't require skills.
@cyborgguardian
8 ай бұрын
Time to issue a real challenge 🙂 Video # 155 where I ask Beto to be toxic and trash talk opponents and teammates (only if teammates are doing bad).
@yaagodourado
8 ай бұрын
New Vale lacks so much damage. He barely can burst a mm. In the old times, he would burst a tank! Just his second+first skill in late game was capable of one-shoot most mm. But now...
@DEADPOOL-fm1bz
7 ай бұрын
vale is not good hero now.. dont tell us this hero is good.. come on men. be honest
@Violet_0_0_
8 ай бұрын
I still remember that u said you will give Lou yi a try😢
@GenXGamingZone
8 ай бұрын
I feel cheated, i just bought his collector skin a month before his nerf, don't even try to convince me it's a revamp. Now he's total garbage of a mage
@kurokawaizana9561
8 ай бұрын
Day 7 of requesting Betosky to play Dyroth
@zero1188
8 ай бұрын
Day 24 moskov
@Monteraist
8 ай бұрын
No one notice diggie in egg form ks Beto at 6:46 😂😂
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