I remember in Shadow of Mordor having an orc nemesis that returned from death 5 or 6 times and would seemingly always pop back up when I least expected him. It kinda became like an inside joke for me. Having that kind of dynamic, unique relationship with a foe in a game was so powerfully enamoring that I still remember it to this day, despite not playing for years. The Nemesis system is such a fascinating mechanic and could be the recipe to something incredible, and seeing it vanish from the industry is a shame.
@Kio-Fox
Жыл бұрын
I had one come back for almost every single mission in my story from third mission coullusium mission I can’t spell
@roberthansson8222
11 ай бұрын
The nemesis system with ai assistance would be quite interesting.
@detach103ff4
11 ай бұрын
Didn't they patent it? And sued some other game that tried the same??
@the_real_Kurt_Yarish
11 ай бұрын
@@detach103ff4 They did patent it, but I'm unaware if any other developer has tried to replicate the system.
@CorinFriesen
11 ай бұрын
I believe an upcoming Wonder Woman game by Monolith is supposedly going to be using it
@jonathanstorms4530
4 ай бұрын
The most heartbreaking thing about Shadow of Mordor is the fact that the Nemesis system was trademarked and stored in a safe to die.
@frenchtoast2319
2 ай бұрын
From what I've heard,the wonder woman game thats coming is going to use it. My problem is i probably wont play wonder woman lol.
@NinjapowerMS
2 ай бұрын
@@frenchtoast2319 Wonder woman of all things to get the nemesis system wtf? Could have just did Red Hood and made bank.
@frenchtoast2319
2 ай бұрын
@@NinjapowerMS yeah i agree. It doesn't excite me at all.
@devilalastor3320
2 ай бұрын
@@NinjapowerMSprolly all your potential nemesis candidates are straight white man
@xavmanisdabestest
2 ай бұрын
It was a 10 year trademark right means its up this year
@bruh4557
Жыл бұрын
Wish we got another one in this series instead of Gollum
@MohseenLala
Жыл бұрын
I wonder where they'd take the story, pretty definitive ending.
@KratosisGod
Жыл бұрын
@@MohseenLala They pretty much covered all loose ends with the dlcs as well so it'll have to be a completely new plot setup along with characters.
@jphineas
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately most publishers won't justify investing into a game this expansive unless you can prove ROI and monetization
@djolegusman
Жыл бұрын
gollum wasn't made by these people nor is it in the same in game universe
@NoMansLand98
Жыл бұрын
I wish we get another gollum, it's game of the year material...
@benelmore745
Жыл бұрын
I actually thought the core mechanics were so good that I never even thought about buying anything
@EH_1995
Жыл бұрын
Right. He’s over exaggerating how unbalanced the game was, buying the orc packs actually worsened your experience cus you cut out the most interesting part of the game - engaging with the nemesis system.
@Cryotyde
Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@jonasking9587
Жыл бұрын
It's so engaging the developers want you to skip it entirely.
@PersonalBurrito
Жыл бұрын
@@jonasking9587 not the developers, the publisher... WB
@jonasking9587
Жыл бұрын
Corrected, and I appreciate it. You're right. I mean, probably. Still. Not interested in anything from Monolith anymore. Weird how that works.
@cristiancarbajal2119
2 ай бұрын
Just picked it up for $2.50 Honestly, what a steal. Im loving the game. Definitely worth it imo
@alexmottram513
Ай бұрын
Same here I got it on summer sale
@townfuneral4564
Ай бұрын
Same lmao I got both games, SOW with all dlc too, for 3$, CD key resellers are a blessing
@fernandes327
Жыл бұрын
This game aged very well. Absolutely love it
@MrREAPERsz
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's really good. The orc captains carry this game
@Gilmore74
Жыл бұрын
Great game
@LIMSAkaRiorulz
Жыл бұрын
This game deserves the Skyrim reboot. Imagine a reboot with no loot systems. It would sell like hot cakes
@DrClownPhD
Жыл бұрын
@@LIMSAkaRiorulz Disagree, you'd have to rework the whole system. It isn't just the monetization. It's that it suffers from an identity crisis. It strives to be one thing while actively doing another and at no point do they ever actually intersect I'd like to expand on this in an edit. Cyberpunk 2077 also suffers from an identity issue, but there are moments where both the immersive RPG it was marketed as and the ARPG that it actually is intersect and creates a really cool, unique experience. I feel like the Shadow of Mordor games are carried now after so many years because of the nemesis system
@sergiomendoza251
Жыл бұрын
Even the normal orcs in interactions out of cutscenes give them own opinions about anything like weapons,Talion,routine,ect.
@matthewjudge3763
10 ай бұрын
It's a really cool experience if you play in a high difficulty. The nemesis system works incredibly well if you die fairly regularly. This allows you to devep the orcs and create a sort of rivalry with them as they rise through the ranks and gain traits that make them even harder to kill.
@believeinmatter
Жыл бұрын
The combat in this game and the first one is so satisfying. Only gets better as you progress through the game
@MrGamemaster-lm3tj
Жыл бұрын
for me i prefer talions look in mordor and some of his combat animations are not in war
@teneesh3376
Жыл бұрын
Biggest issue is that the counter prompt is kinda glichy. Not always working when it needs to. Same goes for the entire game
@cookdislander4372
Жыл бұрын
I love when the sword glows blue and you push 🔺️+ 🔵 for one hit kills
@kowaikokoro
Жыл бұрын
It definetly had moments with combat but besides those moments the game is shallow and as deep as an water puddle on the road
@MrGamemaster-lm3tj
Жыл бұрын
@@kowaikokoro I'll still play 100 times then the gollum game bullshit
@ed4348
Жыл бұрын
At the end of the game you are just kind of handed an overpowered necromancy set as a bit of a "well done you beat the game" and that armor set completely changes how you play the game. Overall the game is amazing with so much to do like turning every orc in an enemy citadel into a spy and then waltzing on in there to no resistance
@drointhewind480
11 ай бұрын
I love the necromancy set, basically a sith lord now lol and the mask is sweet
@comicfan3133
10 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly with the same reward comes an massive upgrade to the starter weapons, wich was very neat, because his "dagger" was the broken sword of his fallen son, which he used solely in shadow of mordor. At the beginning I thought it was a bit sad, that this Weapon which symbolized the bond between Father and Son got useless so quick. But after it was Upgraded I was more than happy.
@riplix20
6 ай бұрын
@@comicfan3133I’m happy to hear this, I also feel dirty using anything other than acharn. Do you get to wear his wife’s cape?
@Skeleton52925
6 ай бұрын
@@riplix20yep
@theoldlore
5 ай бұрын
The necromancy skill is utterly fantastic. At level 72 I can take down almost any orc that has weaknesses, with different effects on my revenants.
@austinrader8135
Жыл бұрын
Upgrading an orcs level can be done by telling them to kill another captain, and if they succeed they will get like 7-10 levels.
@TacticusPrime
Жыл бұрын
They can't level past you.
@austinrader8135
Жыл бұрын
@@TacticusPrime I know, he was complaining that his orcs levels could only be raised by pit fights, I was just letting him know.
@docomega7862
Жыл бұрын
@@austinrader8135Yeah, I'm a new player to shadow of war, only something like 15-20h into the game, and I already know that pit fights are kinda the worst way to level up your orcs. They gain less levels, and you need to train the hell out of them if you want them to have a chance (and at my stage of the game, this is quite the investment). And they can die even to characters 10 levels under them just cause they are stupid, which means back to square one. Sending them to kill other captains is far better as you can make sure they don't die like hopeless morons
@dankmemes7796
Жыл бұрын
@@docomega7862orc fights are more for like . Hm let me pit all my guys together and see which one survives . He’s worth being in my army
@TheNeoVid
Жыл бұрын
That was my favorite exploit besides the infinite lootbox trick in the early days, and the 'recruited by remote' exploit that was recently found! My method for powerleveling Uruks was to find an enemy captain with an easily exploited Terrified weakness, and keep ordering my dudes to kill him. As soon as the mission started, I'd scare him into retreating, which meant my guy won the mission and gained the levels, but the target lived for me to do it again. If the target was enough levels above the guy you sent to fight him, your dude could gain up to 20 levels in a single mission! This also had the useful side effects of getting Talion lots of XP, and gaining a bunch of loyalty with your troops since you were assisting them in missions all the time. Edit: Oh, and the powerleveled one would nearly always gain the Enraged By Cowards trait, which is really good.
@devalt1
Ай бұрын
This game is a masterpiece. The lootboxes were totally unnecessary and you never had to actually use them, so theyre not nearly as egregious as your saying. Let's hope they bring this franchise back!
@TheMasterMind144
25 күн бұрын
@@devalt1 IKR there are so many playthroughs on KZitem of people breezing through the endgame of SoW back when it still had loot boxes, without purchasing anything, and here we have Luke stating that purchasing loot boxes was "mandatory" to beating the game. I think Luke is a decent reviewer but he misses the mark entirely with this video and just goes along with the "SoW bad!" bandwagon from 2017 instead of actually doing research. Honestly it's very disappointing.
@kinkycarny
Жыл бұрын
Youre supposed to send your orc on missions and stuff to level them up while you tend to other tasks or help them with their task to ensure they survive. Helping them also aids in your "bond" with your underlings if you choose to engage with the nemesis system in that way. Sure you can grind out a whole new army if your guys are under leveled, but that is only fun for so long.
@gamesmaster1060
Ай бұрын
I agree but if you're orcs are weak in terms of traits/abilities it might be better to go find some legendary ones or something
@TheMasterMind144
26 күн бұрын
@@gamesmaster1060Legendary orcs have random traits but they're not necessarily stronger by default, the most important thing was to have orcs with few weaknesses and preferably a lot of enrages.
@snotlicker3191
2 ай бұрын
It’s a shame we may never get another game in this series but I love Mordor and War even though War was controversial at release it’s one of my favorite games to go back to regularly to this day because of how good the nemesis system is
@Cryotyde
Жыл бұрын
I only discovered this game about 6-months ago and I really dig it. The gameplay loop is quite satisfying; so satisfying I never thought about buying something.
@AnupBhatt
Жыл бұрын
It was always awesome. Did I have to google how to grind efficiently ? Yes ! But it's not so difficult to figure out if one really immerses oneself into the game.
@sergiomendoza251
Жыл бұрын
And the personalities of the orcs is even better
@epicsponge7934
11 ай бұрын
You can’t buy anything anymore
@ColdStarr
11 ай бұрын
What do you mean? They took out the market place completely?
@elneto927
10 ай бұрын
Dude, the micro transactions have been reomove from the game since a long ago
@MichaelKennedy-fk6zw
2 ай бұрын
Honestly, when I played, I did not find that the end game grind was that bad, and I had no idea loot boxes were in the game until I saw a video
@cmike123
Жыл бұрын
I loved this game. I actually did ignore the loot boxes and just played around the systems. I loved how some orcs would just be immune to certain types of attacks or would Rage + Regen if you tried something that is usually OP like releasing a caragor. I also died a ton to randos trying to make certain styles of kills or I'd get crippled by a wild twist like getting hunted by an adversary, or getting betrayed at a fucked up time. It was great. They need another game with this Nemesis system. Probably not another Shadow game, but either a new or at least different IP.
@realamericanman
10 ай бұрын
Warner bros has the nemesis system patented, but I’m pretty sure they’re going to make a Wonder Woman game or something similar with the system
@cmike123
10 ай бұрын
@@realamericanman them boys are throwing away completed films (the Wiley Coyote one). I wouldnt hold my breath.
@uglahboi6074
10 ай бұрын
The orcs ability to adapt was super fun to play around as well. If you spammed a move too much, the game essentially takes it away from you and forces you to approach the fight differently. Granted, there were some times that this system felt oppressive - in a raid I once had the war chief (who was already immune to many of my abilities) adapt to one basically all my sources of damage. I spent 15 minutes fighting this dude to no avail. Luckily I had a savior who finished the overlord just as he was about to kill me, but if I hadn’t it would mean restarting the raid and losing a bunch of time because I couldn’t physically damage the boss. In any case, this game was GOATed
@justingabriel1765
9 ай бұрын
I still think the nemesis system is one of the most fun world building things they did. I still remember when I played the first game before this one, and there was a dude who just kept coming back and killing me, and so when I started this game that same orc ambushed me and started messing with me in this game, that was so cool. Creating your own little story lines is the funnest part of this game
@EnamoradoRage
9 ай бұрын
I'm in love with this game, I just can never get enough. Every time I play the time flies completely. Wish they would make like this again.
@anonymous_dot_com2326
4 ай бұрын
They are working on a wonder woman game that will feature a more advanced nemesis system
@NoyziNeighborz
Жыл бұрын
I didn't know about the state of this game at launch... I discovered it in 2020 and loved it. I still go in and defend a fortress a few times a month.
@nullcypher
2 ай бұрын
I had no clue that this game had any micotransactions on release and I enjoyed it so much.
@slay-many-foes1160
Жыл бұрын
I love this game and the fact they added extra free content like Nazgul Masks really showed that the developers cared I played since day one never had a problem loved every second I truly hope we get another game in the series would recommend gets 10/10 for fun!
@ShadowElectricity
10 ай бұрын
Never understood people being upset with the loot boxes. I never spent a penny on those loot boxes. It was so easy to earn what you needed in game.
@zero11010
2 ай бұрын
Played this when it came out. Absolutely loved it. I don’t engage in trash like loot boxes. It wasn’t needed to complete the game. The combat system is great. The storytelling is outstanding. The nemesis system is absolutely incredible and really makes for a detailed world. Having enemies and allies show up over and over makes the game feel alive.
@mattfarr137
Жыл бұрын
I luckily never played it until about 3-4 years ago after they had ended the micro transactions and I thought it only Improved from the first one. A perfect sequel
@firstnamelastname4752
18 күн бұрын
My biggest issue with War was that the Nemesis system from Mordor was mostly just repeated over and over. They did add a little bit, but really it’s 90% the same and then do it again and again like 5 times.
@juniorn8279
Жыл бұрын
Shadow of War was never terrible
@thedudeabides3138
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved this game. It’s beautiful looking, plays really smoothly, has interesting mechanics and challenging enemies. It’s easily one of the best games I’ve ever played.
@bigtnaples
Жыл бұрын
This game is incredible. Was the first game I played start to finish on my Steam Deck. And well worth it. Would love a sequel to this.
@sampound6062
Жыл бұрын
I think they should make a new character.Not something already written.I think it would have been cool in a medieval times game.Maybe you play a a knight or something and the warchiefs are nobels.There bodyguards are knights.The captains would also be knights.The commanders or overlords of the places are kings
@mohammadrezamirzadeh4589
Жыл бұрын
I played it last year . One of my favorites . I had alot of fun. But The main story was so rushed in the end part if you know you know..
@umphreak9999
Жыл бұрын
I'd bet good money the whole epilogue was originally an outline for a 3rd game that WB axed in favor of live service loot boxes, which they ironically had to remove due to the intense and justified backlash
@mohammadrezamirzadeh4589
Жыл бұрын
@@umphreak9999 that actually makes sense
@spartangaming1159
Жыл бұрын
For me the loot box system wasn’t even that big of an issue cause for me I can roam around the area finding recruits and not to mention with the shadow wars you could just recruit them so I never fully understood the problem. Sure it might’ve been a grind but I felt it was fair and I never spent a single penny on the game cause it was so fun to find enemies rather than buy them.
@zerg0s
Жыл бұрын
The problem was that the entire customization of the orcs was locked behind the loot boxes. The loot boxes had stuff like giving your orcs a posse, or flaming weapon, or even traits like “can’t be grappled”, stuff like that. The orc system could have been so much deeper if they put ways to customize your orcs into the actual game, rather than just into the loot boxes.
@matthewrobertson5342
Жыл бұрын
You get those on online modes
@elvickRULES
9 ай бұрын
Glad you don’t make decisions. The game is better without them. Though would’ve been even better if it never had them.
@riotdrone
Жыл бұрын
i remember playing this game without buying any loot boxes and having a great time
@1GNUN0N
2 ай бұрын
The reset password error on WBplay has been going on for almost 5 years now...
@Doctor-Stoppage
7 ай бұрын
I loved "Shadow of Mordor." I bought " Shadow of War" in 2023 and I loved it. I don't think it ever asked me to buy anything. I got the version that came with the DLC, Eltariel, Baranor.
@rocketscientist14
Жыл бұрын
This was my favorite game the year it came out. I still go back and play it from time to time because the nemesis system is so badass
@mrmeow6415
16 күн бұрын
I got this game without knowing anything about the loot boxes and never found I needed them. One of my top games of all time.
@slain1930
Жыл бұрын
I 100%ed this game during quarantine and can def see someone finding it too bloated but I actually wanted as much end game as possible, the combat and nemesis system on harder difficulties was fantastic
@HeyItsRykon
Жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm one of the few Speedrunners for this game. First I wanted to say you touch on a lot of the problems that still exist with this game and I really enjoyed the video. Couple of quick things I hope I can help clear up: The game is balanced around that 3% XP gain and using certain gems in your gear to increase XP gain, since your still at level 38 and (I assume based on the way you talked) you've have finished the Shadow Wars (EG:true ending) your level is really low, for example the current True Ending WR is the same level as you when they finish the game avoiding as much of the content as possible. The WB play XP signup it still works but you need to just enter any email into the actual game under the 'WB Play' game, it doesn't even need to be the one your steam/xbox/PlayStation account is assigned to. The loot boxes are still sort of in the-game, while you can no longer buy them, they are used as rewards for the online content (not the good ones sold for real money, just the cheaper ones), the garrison is also other hangover from the system which ruins the flow (IMO) of most of the game. The Nemesis system is returning the developers are making a Wonder Woman game and have stated it will be in it, however we don't know how cut down or changed the system will be for that game. There is multiple online components to this game which provide some variety, however its filled with 'hacked' orcs at the top end making it nearly unplayable. Thanks again loved the video please don't take any of the points above as negative, just trying to help clarify a few things.
@snbks4ever
Жыл бұрын
IBefore watching the video, I was there playing Shadows of War day 1 and then once loot boxes were taken out I've done a few more play throughs of the game and to me it never needed loot boxes and wish they were never introduced. I love the game as it took Shadows of Mordor and just took everything and expanded so much. The game is so enjoyable to play.
@marcyy6192
Ай бұрын
battlefront 2 has a pve mode that levels your cards and characters extremely quickly to get on par with current players
@ElOsoMarino
Жыл бұрын
I also had the pleasure of playing it after the loot box fiasco and it was great, you can also get the real ending without a massive grind now lol
@jaredvillaire2944
Жыл бұрын
There was no loot box fiasco, this youtuber and everybody else commenting saying that the "loot boxes" were such a huge problem even though plenty of people have had this game since day 1 including myself and it was never an issue..... never, you could play and beat the entire game and not get a "loot box"
@haydenmorgan8156
8 ай бұрын
When I played Shadow of War for the first time in 17 I didn't have Playstation plus on my PS4 account. I had no idea the Game was full of Loot Boxes and Monetization. I just played the game as I played Shadow of Mordor and Loved Every second.
@aaronr.k.9707
2 ай бұрын
The Nemesis System is the sole reason I revisit this game once a year for a handful of hours. Such a sweet mechanic that I wish was in more games.
@joelhusted
Ай бұрын
27:11 monetization might have been part of it at first, but i think they wanted people to utilize the shaming feature, with the added unpredictability and depth that adds to the nemesis system
@Devon_38
Жыл бұрын
I played it a few years after it came out and absolutely loved it.
@shin9r
9 ай бұрын
I bought this game on release after having loved the first one and enjoyed it immensely. For some reason I was not aware of the lootbox drama at the time and the game only really got grindy in post game, so in the end it was fine.
@alexanderivarson856
Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about going back to this game. The first one I beat on PC and PS4 and even platinumed on PS4. I loved it so much my sons name is Talion. But the microtransactions kept me from going deep into this game. You are my favorite gaming KZitemr and I believe you just reinforced my desire to return to it 😁 thanks bro.
@FUNFUN_101
2 ай бұрын
I just started playing this game again slaughtering orcs and having them return as well as them all having unique personalities makes this game so awesome
@Memu_
Жыл бұрын
I kinda miss the old system because of how hard it made the game. The late stage where your forts are constantly under attack was actually really challenging and I would often lose orcs and sometimes my forts entirely. With the new more balanced system the sieges are much easier.
@Juicexlx
8 ай бұрын
That game is absolutely superb. I never played it when it was monetized, hence that never factored in my playthroughs. The game becomes so hard overtime, it's insane. When you're trying to do the challenges to upgrade legendary gear, that's when the skills & dedication really kick-in. Building armies of top notch Orcs is also very interesting & the fact that you can loose top lieutenants, maybe get them back. The strategy, luck makes that part very fun. Definitely a gem.
@rOxinhoPKK
Жыл бұрын
In shadow of mordor the orc bosses actually roamed around the map and sometimes would get into fights and even die on their own, I didn't see that while playing shadow of war
@DartyMcfly
7 ай бұрын
I just finished the main story in this game 2 weeks ago for the first time. Honestly one of the best games I’ve played, also the story was really well done i felt like I actually cared about Talion.
@nunocorreia671
Жыл бұрын
i got shadow of war after the microtransations were removed, good sequel to shadow of mordor, nemesis sistem is better and its fun to play, i usually play until the true ending then i just start over
@just_some_guy14
4 ай бұрын
Shadow of war is one of the best games i ever played, the nemesis system is the most immersive feature ive seen in an open world rpg and i always really enjoyed the combat and abilities. The copyrighting of the nemesis system is the biggest tragedy in gaming 😭
@austinrader8135
Жыл бұрын
I love this game so much, I wish they would make a 3rd
@scuproductions
Жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite games of all time, and one of the only RPG style games I enjoy
@MarcCaladoFitness
8 ай бұрын
What’s funny about the loot box system is that it would’ve worked if it was multiplayer. People aren’t willing to participate in gacha mechanics for PVE games but are much more inclined if they can spend money to beat other players.
@Momoka7
Жыл бұрын
13:29 Trust me, that game having such a predatory store blew up back in the day when it launched. There are just not many videos SHOWING the store... but there was definitely enough talk going on. Which is why I never touched it to this day. The first one was much better. 14:50 It didn't get "bullied out of existence" at least for Shadow of War, they kept it running a couple years and then shut it down when it wasn't worth running the servers for it anymore.
@redshirt49
Ай бұрын
I think people are misremembering. The loot box system wasnt integrated with the gameplay at all. Yeah, you could use it to get guaranteed legendary orcs but in no way shape or form was that ever necessary. All that separated legendaries from regular orcs anyway is two additional random traits they may have. And it's not like you couldn't get higher level orcs easy if you wanted to. If you let a grunt kill you, they match your level. Then you can go and recruit them. You can also poach orcs from other players by doing online conquests.
@AntiSocialismo50
25 күн бұрын
It was, the game was grind as hell for people to buy them
@logandoughty6672
2 ай бұрын
I played it 100% of the way through without touching any loot boxes, not the dlc. But truly had no complaints whatsoever about micro transactions
@oukeith
Жыл бұрын
Never understood the appeal to this game I played about 15 hours of it on playstation plus a couple years ago got bored and haven't touched it or thought about it since seeing this video
@gamer-px5cu
11 ай бұрын
You have to get over your own tastes to understand some things.
@Slurpverson
8 ай бұрын
Getting the wraithgiver epic sword completely changes the game and the need of op orca when you are essentially a god like sauron
@ChipMatthews
Жыл бұрын
I played this after the loot boxes had already been removed. I never finished it but I loved the mechanics. The combat is so fun that it's a perfect sandbox to just jump into for an hour or two when you feel like taking out some frustrations after a rough day. The core of the game is fantastic. It's a shame they nearly ruined it with excessive greed.
@antarfodoh
2 ай бұрын
I was unaware of all the microtransactions, and bought this game after all of the patches. I sank well over six hundred hours into it.
@sikevillain
Жыл бұрын
Loved the gameplay in these games.. the second one I obsessed over hours just putting orcs to kill each other in death bouts.. oddly fun 😅
@Venedraa
Ай бұрын
In shadow of war i had an orc that wanted to join my ranks so badly, he saved me several times and helped me fight. Though he was pretty weak so i always rejected him. At one point he was so pissed he turned against me and i had to kill him. That moment was heartbreaking for me. Also heartbreaking when one of your best orcs turns against you in an important fight. The nemesis system makes better stories than some triple A games. Oh how i would love a third entry or another publisher/developer to adapt the nemesis system. That would be a game changer. Literally
@jrrocha532
Жыл бұрын
I’ve loved these games so much since they came out, it’s literally the first games I’ve ever wanted to 100% especially shadow of war
@davidg4748
2 ай бұрын
This is no joke my favorite game of all time thanks to the nemesis system, having mini stories with enemies that were unique to me is a truly incredible experience
@Jon_Fury
4 ай бұрын
I played this game after it came out as GOTY version (I think that’s what it was) and I loved it. I sometimes comeback to play it. I got all the armor and weapon types. Also a bunch of max level orcs from many different tribes
@Vandestroy
2 ай бұрын
To be honest i played Shadows of mordor and shadows of war and 100% both of them on steam since they were good af, and keep in mind i havent seen any of the LotR movies so i probably missed out on hints to the fans but still the game was fenomenal, i last played this in 2022 so i didnt get to interact with the market or loot boxes, i would 110% recommend these 2 games in a heartbeat today, go play them
@swiftchancellor159
Жыл бұрын
I never even knew about the loot boxes until after i beat the game lol. game is a solid 9/10 for me
@darthioan
8 ай бұрын
I love this game. I did not mind the level nonsense so much, because I did not try to dominate orcs all that much until I hit my level cap. I prefer to kill them, loot them, and wait for them to resurrect and return stronger. The combinations get really really crazy, with how they put themselves back together with bits and pieces, depending on how you killed them. Head covered in metal, armed nailed to the body and so on.
@x3_wrath
Ай бұрын
The back cape doesn't even move and that one thing bother me so much but in Shadow of mordor the cape movement was great
@Blue_V_Courier
Жыл бұрын
Controversial opinion, i loved the lootboxes, but i didnt like the fact we had to purchase coins (i didnt want to purchase the lootboxes with real money) other than that it was okay, i also liked talion's crown wraith before they removed it. I wish it was kept in. Including nemesis forge I ABSOLUTELY loved that
@TheMasterMind144
Жыл бұрын
Yuo, and you could purchase as many loot boxes as you wanted with the silver currency (which was only in-game and couldn't be bought with real money), I remember back in 2017 when people were organizing fight pits with these orcs and then only selecting the winner to join their army to give them a backstory since they came "pre-dominated". Fun times.
@Blue_V_Courier
Жыл бұрын
@@TheMasterMind144 They should of just sucked it up, but remove the (outside)-game store microtransactions. and added another way to get gold coins and should of kept nemesis forge..indeed was fun times
@TheMasterMind144
Жыл бұрын
@@Blue_V_Courier You could get the gold currency through weekly events if I recall correctly.
@Blue_V_Courier
Жыл бұрын
I think so @@TheMasterMind144, it's been a while tbh. I feel like the game has been dead since they removed the lootboxes and nemesis forge specifically
@MattZaharias
9 ай бұрын
I never even realized there was *any* monetization in Shadow of War. I’ve only owned and played it since 2020, though, so it looks like I dodged a bullet.
@KaskaCoffin
7 ай бұрын
I didnt even know shadow of war had loot box’s I just started swinging at Uruk hai and didn’t stop to look lol. Being dumb in the right ways isn’t always a bad thing I guess
@tonydeluna8095
Жыл бұрын
Shadow of Mordor was a gem for its time. Shadow of War was ok not a great game, but not a bad one either. Unlike 2014’s Lords of the Fallen. That game has major bug issues
@EM0RYTATEllll
Жыл бұрын
I like the game I played it and I don’t buy in game purchases I completed the story and I’m Xbox player and I enjoyed it
@theepicduck6922
Жыл бұрын
Weirdly prefer the gameplay of the 1st until the later game of shadow of war then you really get to play w/ the bells and whistles. Play the pc version to play w/ all the upgrades.
@awsomeboy360
Жыл бұрын
Lmofa. Shadow of War is ABSOLUTELY superior to the first game. It's not even close. It has the better story and mechanics. What are you on?
@weslooos
9 ай бұрын
I love this game before and after the remove of the loot boxes. If you want stronger orcs.. well let them duel. Or let them kill you specialy on the higher difficulties, that excalates out of control
@rossboorman1560
Жыл бұрын
I feel the biggest mistake I made was playing this straight after finishing the first game, only played for a few hours to realise it's just the first game again with some extra bells and whistles. I'm not saying that either are bad, but it's one of those games that are so easy to burn out from.
@ryanhernandez3946
2 ай бұрын
this game truly suffered from the loot boxes causing people to review bomb it truthfully the gear from those boxes only counted when assaulting players fortresses but still almost all of the strongest loot could be acquired in game, it’s an amazing game and always has been, this was in midst of the blowback of loot boxes is all
@liquisordz
3 ай бұрын
this game was never terrible
@nanch6576
6 ай бұрын
I loved this game I never did the loot boxes ( I never knew how it worked I was dumb ) it was just fun to play the game and do everything. this game is totally playable without spending money. i really felt this game took the first game and just improved on it. this game is a grind but thats kinda the whole point is finding orcs that are cool. But that's my opinion it could be wrong but I really enjoyed this game
@daelinproudmore5068
12 күн бұрын
The developers never understood why we played the game. if they did they would've nixed the story and stupid fetch quests and just let us build orc armies.
@lorddurden4189
Жыл бұрын
I loved shadow of war and when it was monetized it was incredibly easy to dupe gear to sell and you could even dupe orcs. So you never once had to engage with the paid bs. One of my favorite play throughs I ended up duping the tower orc who had gone insane and I put just him for every boss in my fortress. I would have loved to see the reaction from someone raiding it.
@Accesserised
7 ай бұрын
This is actually *one of the best games* now, everybody should play it and let the 'devs' know that WE SUPPORT THE NEMESIS SYSTEM so they can make a new sequel. And rest assured there won't be any microtransactions since they learnt their lesson ^^
@zackbrock6031
4 ай бұрын
Let's keep it real The game was never trash, yeah the loot boxes in monetization was excessively unnecessary but it in no way to away from the core game and was over dramatized in blown way out of proportion. The game is easily a 9.5-9.8/10. It's the only game besides the Skyrim and Red Dead redemption 2 that is managed to steal hundreds of hours of my playtime and still keep me entertained
@Boneheaded0
5 ай бұрын
Genuinely this game is top 5 for me. Even without the expansion packs it’s still REALLY good
@minitaur8693
9 ай бұрын
It is so depressing that they copyrighted the nemesis system, so no other game can have it. It's such an amazing feature that would make single-player games so much more interesting.
@vicentun69
2 ай бұрын
As someone that beat the game 3 times (including the sieges after the main story) I dont get why many people hated the lootboxes. They could just be ignored, its true that it gave you an advantage but you could just have skill to make up for the items/bodyguards.
@vicentun69
2 ай бұрын
This was sent before watching the vid btw
@gabrielgomez5528
10 ай бұрын
I never bought anything cause I loved the combat, how to build my army, and some of the orcs are just so fun to be with. Though there was a time I got really pissed off. Not at the game being bullshit, but warfare. 5 commanders, 1 bodyguard doing a seige. Right when I called my bodyguard to get an extra guy in, he tackled me and betrayed me. I forgot what he said, but it was something alongside "playing the long game". Right as he betrayed me, ALL my commanders betrayed me and killed me. I got so pissed, instead of rage quitting, I went into massacre mode and wiped the entire board clean. I didn't care if they had nothing to do with betrayal, I wanted them all dead
@TheRadioactiveMaster
4 ай бұрын
lol this title is so stupid. The loot boxes added pretty much nothing to the game, you just saw them and assumed the worst.
@kingofpkf
Ай бұрын
The loot boxes were never that bad to me in shadow of war as they weren't never necessary just expedient...The advertising is annoying but advertising is annoying in most forms of media. The big thing is also to remember that killing basic orcs gives no exp. So, killing captains to get loot and levels is very much worth it. Don't get me wrong, the end game is very grindy. I just think its designed that way because so many people love just f-ing around with the orcs and the nemesis system. The issue is when games get popular it attracts more people who don't like the grindy nemesis end game. Also their solutions (probably due to the "higher ups" influence) to the above problems and a rising trend in the video game industry led to a massive backlash about micro transactions. Shadow of War wasn't the first or worst of these things by far. It just was the straw that broke the camels back.
@thatsweird9753
5 ай бұрын
I usually dont finish games. I get bored and lose interest after a while. Shadow of war I did finish and I loved the loot boxes. Never bought a single one, never had a use for buying one. I got plenty of boxes just from playing. Why people got their panties up in a bunch, I never understood. If people want to pay to finish a game fast, by all means. I enjoyed it, so I played it.
@eyllyssaunders5345
4 ай бұрын
My favorite thing about the loot boxes is that when they were removed a new ork got put into the pool of possible enemies and this new work is literally the ork who sold the microtransactions I forget his title but he's hilarious I branded him when I found him
@bordnation1594
Ай бұрын
Every since i hit lv 80 ive found that i spend 6-8hrs doing online seiges and it feels like ive only been on 10 minutes
@tyrongkojy
9 ай бұрын
The grinding it took in the original end game to get orcs up tot he 80 levels it becomes basically made it required to spend money if you had any other interests in life. And remember, there was always a chance that, as you trained your orc, they could die.
@Keijoz
8 ай бұрын
In terms of why it can feel hard to connect for you as a big fan of the first game could be the same as what it was for me. This game strips a lot of abilities from the original game and puts them into either-or type choice nodes instead of having both of the abilities which ends up making those abilities feel significantly worse and weaker which takes me out of the story premise of your character supposedly being more powerful in this game but in gameplay having lost power
@brobot2059
5 ай бұрын
100% the trophies on PS4, had a blast and didn’t pay an extra cent.
@matiasluukkanen7718
8 ай бұрын
Never understand why they have orcs in the Nemesis system, but not Nazguls or Sauron himself.Main draw of nemesis system is how unpredictable, crafty and personal orcs can be. That unpredictability should extend to Nazguls and above all to Sauron, so that you feel like your enemies are also planning against you. Why not have each Nazgul perhaps recruiting and dominating most promising orcs, training them and allowing them access special disciplines or weapons or magic and and assigning them as powerful warchiefs/bodyguards/hunters. Like, imagine situation where Sauron is the A.I of the enemy system. You could technically storm Barad-Dur in the very beginning but would face everything he has to offer alove, including Nazguls and Witch-king. So you go conquering territories and at some point if the enemy A.I (Sauron) notices you have too much success, Nazgul will be dispatched to the region to counter you. Nazgul will be like inquisitors, dominating your orcs and training their own loyalists and personally send war-parties at you, or perhaps even muster their forces to attack territories you hold. If Nazgul is "killed" Sauron suffers major blow and he has to expend some "levels" to resurrect them. So your objective is to gather large enough force that you can attack Barad-Dur itself, but it would require you to conquer either Lithlad or Gorgoroth as to have access into it. It would be amazingly interactive system, if your story bad guys (Nazguls, Sauron) also would be in Nemesis system. In perfect world, there would be middle-management Dark Numenorians and evil men above orcs. (Maybe orc can only gain levels up to 40 or something).
@EloyBushida
Ай бұрын
People never talked about it because it was pointless. Like anyone who spent money on it was just stupid, and not in the way that some people say anyone who buys loot boxes is stupid, but actually stupid because the boxes were readily available with currency you could earn RAPIDLY in game. I opened more boxes than the dude in that video you looked at just from playing the game for a few hours lol. You could also use a trainer or CE table to just give yourself the currency, or the boxes themselves, directly lmao.
@vullord666
6 ай бұрын
I really want this game to get a current gen upgrade, some minor bug fixes, and a proper new game plus.
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