What a flashback - I started photography in 1979 and remember the writer you referenced - haven't thought of her in decades! Good times when those magazines came out each month!
@thepirateshoots
Жыл бұрын
I did the "classic way" all the time, when two years ago I found out the method you described in your video. --- it does not only save time, but also precious film! --- Be careful when you do this with your Canon F1! Film winder spool goes the same way round as the transport cylinder which grips into the film sprocket holes; this can cause stuck film!
@shawnj8765
Жыл бұрын
I get typically 38 exposures on a Leica M3. The loading method is slightly more complicated because of the removable spool, but the result is that no film is wasted and that I only need to wind once and start shooting at frame 0.
@eliassjoborg3591
Жыл бұрын
Same here with my M2.
@workingjoe898
Жыл бұрын
I can get 38 or 39 shots with my Japanese rangefinders, but always 39 with my rollei 35.
@MorghanStark
Жыл бұрын
On our cameras, we do that method, BUT, we do it in the dark, and we winded on before putting the film in ! Many more shots ! :)
@krissjacobsen9434
Жыл бұрын
What the heck is this sorcery? 😳 My entire film world has been turned completely upside down!
@josecolon8143
Жыл бұрын
Well, I guess Opa teach me right (back in the 70’s). Great video!
@pointblank2890
Жыл бұрын
Wow that sounds so obvious, but it's something that's hard to discover on one's own because of the norm of loading film I'm planning to start film photography for the first time this year, and your tips and lessons are definitely helping me make the most of my resources and experience!
@FilNenna
Жыл бұрын
Glad you find it useful!
@josewantland
Жыл бұрын
Hi, I highly recommend to buy a simple very affordable full manual camera ( Canon AE-1 or similar ) with basic lens or lenses, because you might get hook on film photography like I did and then you will move up to bigger format cameras and gear, look for a local school that teaches film photography, learn history of photography, learn to master the camera in full manual ( I'm lucky to be a student at Orange Coast College in California ), and get ready because film photography is so much fun and is coming back very strong. Good Luck.
@datvu6
Жыл бұрын
@@josewantland AE-1 are very much overpriced nowadays and not that reliable though, I would recommend something fully mechanical like the Canon FTb, Minolta Srt or Olympus OM-1.
@atacant
Жыл бұрын
Wait I thought this was the main method of loading. I thought everyone did it this way! Nice to get the affirmation that my discovery from 2018 was actually arround since the 80s
@Jeff_in_3D
Жыл бұрын
One time i miraculously got 39 (and a half!) from this method on an AE-1. I suspect it was cut a little long because that’s just a silly amount of photos. A super important thing someone taught me once though is that a great way to ensure it’s aligned with the sprockets is to wind the film back 1-1.5 turns, just until you feel the slightest amount of tension.
@heinzhagenbucher4714
Жыл бұрын
Hello I used to do it this way. :) And I've got 38 images out of my Yashika. And again thank you for this video.
@franktatom1837
Жыл бұрын
I've been shooting film for 50 years, back in the good old days of $1.25 Plus-X, the max exposures method was to wind the film only to the point that the upper and lower sprocket holes engaged the sprocket to the right of the film rails, back wind the film to remove slack in the film canister, and shut the back.
@johnverna9693
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Cora!..and Fil.
@williamcroxall6005
Жыл бұрын
The manager of my local photo store showed this to me years ago and it's how I've always done it. However I do one thing differently - after sticking the leader in and before placing the roll in the camera I put a little pressure on the film advance lever (sometimes almost half of a full advance) to make sure its gripping the sprockets and the film is being wound, and then pull the roll over to where it sits. The film is also really taut when you do it perfectly. I haven't had any rolls slip off the take-up spool doing this - its kinda fiddly doing that extra step though so it may only work if someone has larger hands. I usually get 38 exposures doing this, and a couple times I've got a 39th if everything goes really well.
@sting0072007
Жыл бұрын
Dang, now I have to use this method - just to get my time back!
@brentfisher902
Жыл бұрын
I tried bulk film loading and gotten a Kodak Cameo Motor camera to show 39 exposures remaining, with a manual camera, you could get even more.
@stupidmadshit
Жыл бұрын
I only extend the leader out as much as needed to load on the take up spool like you've shown... Maybe halfway advance the film so it's gripping and on the sprockets. Then I take the camera into a dark bag , or you can stand in a completely dark room. only then pull the cannister away from the take-up spool and seat it. Close the back, finish advancing the film, usually get about 39 frames
@jbaxter007
7 ай бұрын
Excellent, ill be using this technique from now on.
@florianbauzl2747
Жыл бұрын
Anyhow I do not regret to have watched this video ;-) Even though I am a 120 guy. Thanks!
@thepirateshoots
Жыл бұрын
more valuable than ever!
@workingjoe898
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this, I learned it from a documentary about 13 years ago, and I can afford some of the best digital cameras and lenses now, so I no longer need to buy positive films to get better image quality back when films were cheap.
@philmartin5689
Жыл бұрын
I don't recall ever being taught how to load a film but I always load 35mm film this way and have done so for years.
@stuartblink
Жыл бұрын
That was a completely new tip to me. The extra frame benefit is really helpful. It also feels like a more controlled way of loading film. Well worth the time to watch. Thanks
@DoktorFrankenstein
Жыл бұрын
Worth noting, some cameras won't shoot properly until the counter is at 1. In the case of my Nikon FG, it'll shoot but the meter won't work.
@jonathoncamp6452
Жыл бұрын
I like to insert the leader into the winding spool and advance a frame before I lay the cassette in its slot, just for a little insurance that when I get ready to advance again the leader isn't going to slide off the winding spool.
@FilNenna
Жыл бұрын
That's a really good idea!
@jonglass
Жыл бұрын
Man, I've done this so long, I don't remember when or where I learned it, but now, seeing this, it makes me wonder if it was this very article! I remember seeing her stuff in Pop Photo back in the day. On the other hand, I might have learned it in photography class in high school years earlier. I just don't remember, but it intrigues me, that this very article may have been my source. Imagine having an influence on photographers across all these decades, from one article! That's cool. 🙂
@philmartin5689
Жыл бұрын
Same here but it certainly wasn't that article that taught me, I never read that magazine. Perhaps it was the peculiar design of the take up spool in Pentax Super A cameras that led to me adopting this method? They don't have a slot but multiple bars to slip the lead into, which is easier to do using this method.
@kevinparkes417
Жыл бұрын
I'm happy with 37. I load from the take-up spool as you suggest and wind on a little until both sprockets are engaged before closing the back. This way you know all's well and that the film's being pulled through straight. I also rewind the rewind crank a little to put a bit of tension on the film and ensure it's flat.
@NPJensen
Жыл бұрын
Well, I have never read that article, but I do load cameras with a slit on the wind up spool like that - except for Leica and old Contax cameras. On mechanical cameras, I don't understand people, who wind and fire several times before they start using the camera. I do tend to take two shots of my first subject on the roll - just in case. Since I often do that anyway, because I like to exhaust a subject by capturing it in different ways and from different angles, it's just par for the course for me.
@rogiervanoostrom6467
Жыл бұрын
I didn't use this method, but I certainly will! On my last roll of Ilford Delta 400 I managed to get 38 complete photos, and that was using the 'inefficient method'. Normally I get 37. Maybe with this improved method I'll get 38 consistently, and 39 occasionally. Anyhow, this is one of the best tips in a long time (even though I've been shooting film since 6 months only ;-).
@jonathanhotopf1823
Жыл бұрын
Great tip there. I get about 37 generally on an FM2n.
@viktoryakov4393
Жыл бұрын
I've been doing this since I started shooting on film, just to squeeze in more frames and because I love the half frame "first of the roll" picture. I think I've gotten up to 38 and a half frames of a roll :)
@parkerhyser3730
Жыл бұрын
my canonet QL 19 can constantly get #, ##, 0, 00, and 1-36, so 40 pictures on a 36 exposure roll, but it loads differently than that type of camera. The most I've gotten out of a typical loading SLR was 37 and the guy at the camera shop congratulated me.
@josewantland
Жыл бұрын
Hi Fil, Nice video, I still enjoying the old 35mm and 120mm films, their is something about the final image that only film will give you, I started buying 35mm film in bulk ( 100 Feet Long ) to make my own rolls, in the beginning I was making them longer, with the intention of having more frames par roll, but I discovered very quickly that is harder to manage longer strips of film, some developer reels can't take long strips, some dryers aren't tall enough, sometimes I accidentally drag the film on the floor and some plastic film holders ( Contact Sheets ) are made for 35 frames, overall is nice to maximize and been more productive but sometimes it has disadvantages , thank you again for the awesome video and tip.
@FilNenna
Жыл бұрын
That's funny - I did the same thing! To the extent that the film would get stuck in the cassette because I tried to fit so much in there. Thanks for sharing. It's a good heads-up for those looking to get into bulk rolling.
@pacorosso7400
Жыл бұрын
I usually get 38 frames. First locate the chasis in the axe, extend the film until the rewind axe and rotate it half way. Then pull the rewind back a little to tense it, then shut the back door and finish with the wind lever seeing if the rewind knob turns (wich say I have linked the film in its place).
@methical__
Жыл бұрын
I can fit 41/42 exposures on a roll using my tiny agfa camera which does not have a take up spool, but a chamber where you only have to fiddle the leader in.
@drbarnack1885
Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@raymundolunalopez638
Жыл бұрын
I've been loading my film like this for ages... when i saw other people loading their film like you did in the first example i always thougth i was doing it wrong... now i know i wasn't... by the way, i have an extra frame loading the film like i always do...
@michaelnewmanphotography
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!! I’ve always wondering how to get those half frame images at the front.
@FilNenna
Жыл бұрын
You are very welcome - its just a case of seating the leader, closing the door and winding only once.
@eliassjoborg3591
Жыл бұрын
72😎 with my Olympus pen (half frame)
@zampination
Жыл бұрын
You could probably save some more frames if you load the film in total darkness
@paveloleynikov4715
Жыл бұрын
Nice idea. I don't sure if it would work flawlessly with all styles of takeout spools, but definitely worth trying
@FilNenna
Жыл бұрын
Agreed - take out spools are a different beast and need a bit more attention. I never choose my Barnack Leica if I know I need to load a new roll in a rush.
@lookman7047
Жыл бұрын
Most cameras do have "auto" loading feature (late 70s onwards). All you have to do is pull the film lead till both holes on the film sits in the sproket then close the cover and wind the film advance lever. If you see the retract wheel start to spin, means the film was successfully picked up. With an auto loading camera. I would put the film cartridge in it's slot, while holding down the cartridge, pull the film lead till both holes sit in the sproket with the smaller film lead just sits over the advance roller, then close the cover and wind the film to 1st frame. I usually get at least 1 or 2 extra frames at the end. Anyone else have this experience?🤔
@redbimmer6
Жыл бұрын
I've got 39 frames twice using this method.
@thepirateshoots
Жыл бұрын
Be careful when you do this with a Canon F1 because the winding spool turns the same way as the advance gear.
@ecookman
Жыл бұрын
If you're really cool, you load like this in a dark room
@alexeevlaw
Жыл бұрын
Looks like it depends on film brand. My favorite Foma 100 once gave me 41 shot, however usually it is 38-39 shots. I have never seen more than 37 on Kodak.
@FilNenna
Жыл бұрын
What camera did the 41 shots come out of?
@alexeevlaw
Жыл бұрын
@@FilNenna Nikon N90S
@robfriedrich2822
Жыл бұрын
There was a system with a cartridge, you pulled it out, close the camera, two blind photos and then start.
@ПавелПанин-ф2н
Жыл бұрын
I like loading film in my darkbag, I get 42 frames with this method (i am very cheap)
@denissandmann
10 ай бұрын
38 at most in a leica, 39 in a canonet ql 17
@AMTunLimited
Жыл бұрын
Literally said "son of a BITCH" out loud because it's stupid obvious and I never in a million years would have thought of it. This would be much easier to do in a dark bag too, so you could shoot the first frame (if you're REALLY trying to stretch your film I guess)
@s0972821
Жыл бұрын
38~39
@michaelcoll433
Жыл бұрын
I'm confused. Isn't that how everyone loads film? Maybe I'm really old, but I've done it like this, since forever
@ulfpulf9667
Жыл бұрын
my max was 41 good exposures on cinestill800t on a pentax me super
@FilNenna
Жыл бұрын
That’s the record so far! Was that from a bulk roll or a store bought one?
@ulfpulf9667
Жыл бұрын
@@FilNenna I bought it in a german analog photography store
@trevorbrooks813
Жыл бұрын
Ha ha, I'm sure there will come a time when I'd like the 2:35 back for another use, not to mention however long this comment is taking me. ;-) As a rather (ahem) mature chap I've always loaded my film the 'fast' way. Wonder how much that adds up to over the years? Do I get out the calculator and spend that time figuring out approximately what I've saved and now spent? Good tip for those who don't know it. Really enjoying your posts, thanks.
@Arturo.H.M
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha, welcome to the pass.
@Paul4ha
Жыл бұрын
Nothing new, and best are 40 exposures, usually 39
Пікірлер: 70