John Paul Jones once said he didn't really know the lyrics to a lot of Zeppelin songs, he thought of Plant's voice as one of the instruments.
@jensclarberg6419
2 жыл бұрын
As a bassist I never really know the lyrics to any of the songs I've ever played. Only certain parts that acts as cues to following parts.
@mitsanut5869
2 жыл бұрын
Well, then Blackmoore most definitely said the same thing about Deep Purple. He never knew the lyrics and he couldn't care less. It was all about the voice that completed the band's chemistry. It's not just those two bands that played that way. This all comes from blues they were inspired by and they also played prior to joining these bands. Blues is totally based on such vocalization. Just listen to any black blues dating back to first records in 1920', it's all there. Many bands in 1970's used their vocalists as another instrument. Rory Gallagher played his guitar and sang in similar way, many others did the same with more or less success. It just got lost in time, especially in 80's when this was almost completely forgotten and abandoned precisely because many artist simply didn't have any background in blues playing anymore. Michael Jackson used his voice in same way, and on top of it, he used it also as a percussion instrument as well. That's why he was so monstrously successful with Thriller and some of his follow ups. GNR (as much as I disliked them) did the exact same thing, and we're successful because of that. Hopefully, music will return to using vocalists as another instrument more often some day.
@kathleenpell7575
2 жыл бұрын
Thats so cool, because John Bonham was not drumming along with the bass player. He was following along with the lead guitar, Jimmy Page. Thats why Led Zeppelin had such a unique sound.
@robertj5881
2 жыл бұрын
Robert's response was to write the song called Royal Orleans. This details John Cameron's unfortunate adventure with a drag queen resulting in hotel rooms set on fire, fireman kicking in the door, and kissing whiskers. John baldwin, John Paul Jones's real name, sounds suspiciously like that, and apparently this happened to him. That was the revenge for saying lyrics did not matter. Never insult a poet or lyricists
@jensclarberg6419
2 жыл бұрын
@@robertj5881 Yeah Cameron and Baldwin sure are close.
@richienaso6265
2 жыл бұрын
Plant said that because there was so much improvisation in Zeppelin he had to decide whether to stand on the side of the stage or join in. I think that was the key factor in his singing style.
@douglaschristine8387
2 жыл бұрын
Your right Ritchie, watching Plant live, he's always looking at Page like he's waiting for a cue or something so he can react.
@knuteboy3778
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah a lot of people don't even consider it, but Led Zeppelin was a full-on jam band. They explored improv just as much as The Allman Bros, The Dead, Cream etc.
@CarSVernon
Жыл бұрын
yeah his indecision was obvious lol
@philsurtees
2 жыл бұрын
They met, then about a month later they recorded Led Zeppelin 1 - in a few weeks, using only 36 hours of studio time - then went on tour supporting that Top 10 album, and not long after that they had conquered the world, and stayed on top for a decade. No other band before or since has gone from 0 to 100 so quickly, and that's because they had the type of chemistry that most bands can only dream of. Four of the best rock musicians of all time, in the same band, all getting along with one another, both on and off the stage. What they did has basically only ever happened once...
@davidmecucci7348
2 жыл бұрын
Sums them up !!
@jfo3000
2 жыл бұрын
Page is a genius, his vision for Zep coming to fruition during the Yardbirds...Of course he got incredibly lucky that the other three got involved.
@stevefairweather159
2 жыл бұрын
And their manager ,Peter Grant , took care of them and people around them so they could totally focus on the music
@Larrymh07
2 жыл бұрын
Chemistry among one's bandmates, I believe is the most important aspect determining a bands success at whatever level of skill or aspiration.
@scottakam
2 жыл бұрын
Led Zeppelin is definitely a whole being greater than the sum of the parts. They were all very good individually but when you put them together, the magic happened.
@ryananthony4840
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know...... have all Plant's 80's solo stuff and there is a lot that I like better than zeppelin
@cher7304
2 жыл бұрын
@@ryananthony4840 well... thats solos are writing for Jimmy page
@dylanhealy8126
2 жыл бұрын
True, but John Paul Jones was the secret weapon that made it all work IMO.
@drachireidnoc6659
2 жыл бұрын
@@dylanhealy8126 Them Crooked Vultures
@pnollen2
2 жыл бұрын
@Reffidex I see what you did there...
@ronsterm7076
2 жыл бұрын
Surprised at how few comments mention what Page and Plant were actually doing. It's classic Blues call and response. They did it from the first album ("You Shook Me", for example). I'm likely a LOT older than most of you, so I learned about this technique and its Blues roots ages ago in interviews with Robert and Jimmy. While they weren't bluesmen in the purest sense they loved the music all the same.
@frankrizzo7454
2 жыл бұрын
It's not just blues. 40's Jazz. There is no better example of voice as an instrument than Ella Fitzgerald. Best horn in the band. kzitem.info/news/bejne/q2eVvX6cb5d1g3o She makes you realize exactly how tone deaf most rock singers were.
@robmckrobmck5567
2 жыл бұрын
Beck and Stewart were doin that in shows and on Truth out 6 mos before Zep 1.
@GardenGuy1943
Жыл бұрын
Yeah you are pretty old.
@lippi2171
2 жыл бұрын
Plant's singing interaction with Jimmy Page's guitar playing is unmatched in my opinion. Intuitive, creative and utterly powerful. Probably the best example in my mind is Dazed and Confused, 1970 at Royal Albert Hall. It's just so good to see/hear a singer singing freely, basically jamming with his voice.
@jessewolf6806
2 жыл бұрын
Jagger/Richards tops for me.
@mindsigh4
2 жыл бұрын
nobodys fault is example of Plant doing callback off of Page guitar
@lindahandley5267
2 жыл бұрын
Yes!😁
@frankrizzo7454
2 жыл бұрын
Unmatched? Not even close. kzitem.info/news/bejne/s5mArpWFjoZhhKg
@Mar-wc4th
2 жыл бұрын
Extraordinario
@billcastle5181
2 жыл бұрын
Bonham did the same thing with his drums. Played them more like a lead instrument. You'll hear him play back on the drums, almost note-for-note at times, what Page was playing or Plant was singing. Fun to listen to.
@unicormaidfrankenstein
2 жыл бұрын
yeah he did! That is the dif between musicians playin with other artists and playing 'with' some 'canned' beat 🦄🧜♀🌭🍺
@digiorno1142
3 ай бұрын
Perfect example of this is The Rover. Bonham starts out the song with the heavy drum intro and Page follows it with the guitar. The drums in that song are like another lead.
@Khaibar06
2 жыл бұрын
Something I always thought about Sting, whose voice I love, is that his melodies and style sound like an instrument to me, and not typical vocalist idioms. Robert Plant is goated , as they say 🤘
@adamp6744
2 жыл бұрын
Robert Plant is one of my all time faves. Funny, you were in to Page before Plant, I was into Robert Plant way before I really started digging Page's playing. And I'm a guitar player (I was into technique and cleanliness way more than I should have been. Gilmour is still my #1 though)..lol.. However, they both rank at the top of my list now.
@adamp6744
2 жыл бұрын
Love your vids! I ALWAYS learn something new!
@juliemanarin4127
2 жыл бұрын
Page blows Gilmore out of the water...sheer passion!
@rjwall9487
2 жыл бұрын
Talk about bringing vocals to guitar, Gilmour is also my favorite!!
@adamp6744
2 жыл бұрын
If you don't think Gilmour plays with passion (as well as pure soul and emotion) , you haven't been paying enough attention..lol
@normt6226
2 жыл бұрын
Page and Gilmour are my two biggest influences of all time...But i give the edge to Page...So much passion...only SRV is on par with Page...
@fase1doughnut
2 жыл бұрын
I saw Robert Plant just the other day and it gave me chills. He’s easily my biggest inspiration vocally and it was incredible getting to see him in person. He’s still so damn good
@fossildick2705
2 жыл бұрын
You were pumping iron while he was pumping gasoline ?
@richardmcdonald6237
2 жыл бұрын
Cap.
@fase1doughnut
2 жыл бұрын
@@richardmcdonald6237 I mean, he’s literally on tour at the moment, I went to the show in Lucca
@MarieLuvsNate
2 жыл бұрын
@@fossildick2705 You were pumping iron whereas I was pumping irony.
@w.geoffreyspaulding6588
2 жыл бұрын
I have tickets for end of August. SO looking forward…keeping fingers crossed that nothing ef’s it up….
@scottedwards1209
2 жыл бұрын
Jeff Buckley is a perfect example of an artist who sings through their guitar and plays guitar through their singing.
@Oh_I_Will
2 жыл бұрын
Buckley is good but he’s not on the same level IMO
@TheAdamisgay
2 жыл бұрын
@@Oh_I_Will Sadly we never got to see how he would further evolve as an artist.
@w.geoffreyspaulding6588
2 жыл бұрын
Robert Plant has said Jeff Buckley one of best singers of his generation…..He and Jimmy went to hear Jeff in Montreaux where they were on tour, and were just blown away.
@anthonybowers7571
2 жыл бұрын
@@w.geoffreyspaulding6588 Tim Buckley was even better but is largely forgotten in favour of his son
@Mar-wc4th
2 жыл бұрын
RP was inspiration for JB. LZ was his favorite band.
@christianrobinson546
2 жыл бұрын
“You shook me” comes to mind, I love how they duel each other in that song
@jfo3000
2 жыл бұрын
True that! My absolute favorite "blues" song.
@TrippedGian1
2 жыл бұрын
Also, Plant kinda sounded like Iago from Aladdin and I'm not the only one who thought that 😂 someone made a meme of it way back but I haven't been able to find it since
@jamesgathings2142
2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree. The best vocalist are able to use their voice as an instrument. Understanding the connection between a voice and an instrument is key. I can elaborate on this topic, but I'll leave let my previous statements rest and represent my thoughts.
@williamcole3865
2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of Deep Purple with Ritchie Blackmore on guitar and Ian Gillan's vocals. They would mirror riffs to a point where it was difficult to tell the guitar from the vocals. Gillan's range as demonstrated in the original Broadway version of Jesus Christ Superstar was astounding.
@stantonvalberg9814
2 жыл бұрын
It's such a shame Gillan can't hit the notes he used to, but that's aging I guess. Luck of the draw how it affects vocalists.
@tims7344
2 жыл бұрын
@@stantonvalberg9814 He screamed so much listen to Child in Time which no other rock singer has ever attempted. Now he’s still okay as long as he lowers down an octave. Highway Star he struggles with now. That’s no easy song to sing either. Ian Gillan is I believe older than Plant by a few years. Both can’t sing the way they used to. Hell I hope I’m still just standing and breathing at that age.
@Ubu987
2 жыл бұрын
@@tims7344 Robert Plant lost his top range in 1973 and has been fighting his voice ever since. It is amazing what he does with a broken instrument.
@mitsanut5869
2 жыл бұрын
Live In Japan album. Yeah
@t_bone12571
2 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy the call-and-response between Plant and Page, with Jones and Bonham anchoring the rhythm over the other two's higher end wailings. Still cool to hear, especially from the really early concerts on CD or DVD.
@stevieG.
2 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing an interview with George Benson who was initially a jazz guitarist. He said 'I can't sing but my guitar will teach me' - that's why he did those signature runs and vocal scats over the cool guitar notes which went onto became his thing.
@Geotubest
2 жыл бұрын
George Benson is a legend. Superb guitar player and singer. Prodigy.
@bobhope3716
2 жыл бұрын
Plant used his voice like an instrument. Have you seen the Madison Square Garden performance of the song Since I've Been Loving You ? Also want to recommend the entire 26 minutes of Dazed and Confused from the Madison Square Garden concert. Plant's voice is very prominent as an instrument on Dazed.
@BigBass-xf5yi
2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Minceontoast2
2 жыл бұрын
And at those Madison square performances His voice was a shadow of what it was he nodules from overuse and still sounded great
@vzeller
2 жыл бұрын
@@Minceontoast2 Yes, he had vocal surgery by this point, but I wouldn't say his voice was a shadow of what it was. His tambre was still the same. He just didn't do ridiculous head voice past A4. He learned to be responsible with his vocal health. Most touring singers do this. Did you know that you can't find a live version of Hunger Strike that exists where Cornell goes past B4. On the record he hits an E5 at the end. It's just not practical live for 99.9 percent of Tenor and even Alto singers.
@mjordan601
2 жыл бұрын
Bro, just to add to your post....have you heard Robert play the harmonica in the Levy song? Enough said, he's a genius!!
@bobhope3716
2 жыл бұрын
@@mjordan601 Oh yeah. He plays pretty good guitar also.
@ronimatos90
2 жыл бұрын
Once upon a time, Ritchie Blackmore and Ian Gillan also did it very well together.
@gasousman
2 жыл бұрын
Lord help us.
@massimonipote5899
2 жыл бұрын
Hai ragione,avevo 13 anni quando comprai Machine Head, ed era semplicemente entusiasmante...!!! Come molti,sono cresciuto ascoltando la chitarra di Blackmore, e lui è tra i primi al mondo, di sicuro!!! Li ho visti a Parigi per mia fortuna nel 1985... Straordinari è dir e proprio niente...!!! Ero nelle prime file,non so se mi spiego e avevo 20 anni...! La differenza che ho sempre trovato( e che ha penalizzato i Purple...) e che tra Blackmore e Gillan,c'era rivalità e invidia,mentre tra Page e Plant c'era amicizia e sintonia... Non è questione di classifica, sono tutti bravi, ognuno a modo proprio! Ma la musica,deve unire, non dividere....!!! In ogni caso... Long live rock'n'roll!!!
@a.m8878
2 жыл бұрын
Yes But Purple didn't star doing Rock unti they heard the Zeppelin 1 and wanted to try rock (said by blackmore and lord on the getting thighter documentary on youtube) when Zeppelin was already on the third record!!! Zeppelin was waaaay ahead of everybody.
@BunnEFartz
2 жыл бұрын
@@a.m8878 Yeah but Deep Purple actually wrote their own songs.
@a.m8878
2 жыл бұрын
@@BunnEFartz Zeppelin actually wrote a lot of their songs as well my dear. Inspite of the 8. 12 plagiarized songs. And deep purple Plagiarized as well....so...
@joshuahoover6841
2 жыл бұрын
The man had one of the most powerful voices on earth. The dude would sing to Jimmy's guitar and Jimmy would play back to him. 🤘💙
@Geotubest
2 жыл бұрын
This vid just popped up in my YT feed. I "get" what you're saying of course, but my first thought was "Where has this guy been?" This has been Plant's hallmark since 1968. In fact, the entire band "gels" like this. Bonham's drums often mimic Page's playing, especially live when they go off improvising. There are so many examples, I'm not sure where to start. Dazed and Confused when Plant's voice mimics the descending, cascading bends Page plays in succession. Then there's the way Bonham's drums follow Page's fills in Achilles Last Stand. This cohesion is what made them so fantastic in my opinion and why they just couldn't go on after Bonham passed.
@BooksForever
2 жыл бұрын
Rob Halford has long been the third guitarist of Judas Priest. And not surprisingly, he’s said two of his heroes/influencers were Robert Plant and David Bowie. Legends, all.
@albowman6852
2 жыл бұрын
Agree on the Jimmy Page analysis. He is truly the best rock guitarist ever.
@lexiconartist5004
2 жыл бұрын
You are right, also perhaps, some voices are percussive, like Mike Patton (known as one of the most versatile vocalists of rock). Often I find good singers are good at doing imitations of other people as well. As you've taught me, there's a lot of nuance that goes into singing, like walking a tightrope between doing what you know and pushing the envelope into something that is uniquely great and not just banal.
@DavidMiller-dt8mx
2 жыл бұрын
Zeppelin's call and response was a fantastic part of what made them so good.
@alphalifestyleacademy
2 жыл бұрын
I always loved Robert Plant however, when I started playing not just the guitar part but the note the signer play. For example Black Dog, I played the notes Robert is signing and once I did I saw what an amazing singer Robert Plant is.
@RK_peace
2 жыл бұрын
The live Robert Plant between 1969 and 1972-3 is unmatched in his power.
@jessewolf6806
2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the most powerful but for me the best rock and roll singer - not to mention lyricist - is Sir Mick Jagger.
@RK_peace
2 жыл бұрын
@@jessewolf6806 Jagger doesn’t really sing, he kinda staggers his words out. Great entertainer though
@jann1800able
2 жыл бұрын
led zeppelins label mates bad company, has one of the best blues rock singers in paul rodgers. rodgers work with free and bad company was awesome. he still sounds good in his mid 70's today too.
@JohnHorneGuitar
2 жыл бұрын
Nice. As a guitar instructor I often use vocals as a reference as to how students should bend, and vibrato etc. Zeppelin isn’t my favorite band but Plant always comes up, especially when it comes to giving the minor 3rd in the blues scale that little bend toward major.
@ArielHarto
2 жыл бұрын
I remember when Joe Satriani, a guitarist who makes, for the most part, instrumental rock music, had said that he too sings what he composed for the guitar. It's a really good way for composing new melodies, and I do this for my own compositions. Abraços, Chris!
@rickc2102
2 жыл бұрын
Keeps things from sounding like warm-up exercises stitched together.
@ronnienose8608
2 жыл бұрын
The most exciting guitar/vocal call and response is for me is the cimbination of Ian Gillan and Ritchie Blackmore, especially on the live version of Strrnge Kind of Woman from Made In Japan. Bloody awesome!
@kurtsherrick2066
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Blackmore also had Jon Lord. But yes those licks with matching vocals on Strange Kind of Woman are all high mark of that type of Performance. Made In Japan is the Bench Mark of what a live Album should be. I have never got tired of listening to Made In Japan. It is just that damn good!
@gmac8852
2 жыл бұрын
@@kurtsherrick2066 I agree also DP didn't seem sloppy sounding when live
@rockyourworld5374
2 жыл бұрын
It occured to me when I started singing, that most Rock vocalist attempt sound like a slightly distorted guitar. You may notice too that the more metal the guitarist the more bassy and low scream sounds the vocalist. Funny, because I saw an interview with Steve Tyler about he and Joe Perry and how they create songs together. So Joe plays Steve some lick on the guitar and Steve replys in lyrics sung to the lick. And intresting too how the Guitar solo is usually up btwn 12 and 16 fret higher pitch and vocal solos also tend to rocket up in pitch.
@biglutherie
2 жыл бұрын
Early Led Zeppelin is definitely ground-breaking stuff!
@TybudX
2 жыл бұрын
This is why Pantera is such an iconic band, and why Down is still so loved. Phil is amazing at riffing off the guitar and Dime and Pepper Keenan are great bluesy musicians that support that.
@newlenmedia
2 жыл бұрын
I can see how someone your age missed this. I grew up listening to Led Zeppelin when they were popular, touring and on the radio. 😮 When I started singing, I just imitated other singers, Robert Plant among them. I could tell right away he and Page had this chemistry and it came out by them expressing their individual instruments in a way that mimicked the other. You know, Lennon and McCartney did this with their lyrics. They talked to each other in their music. It wasn't always positive either. I like the way Page and Plant communicated with one another better. Anyway, music is a journey. Glad you discovered this on yours. It's pretty cool. Plant's style gives us permission to be more expressive and to shed our inhibitions. It's very freeing. Best regards!
@chrisliepe
2 жыл бұрын
Ya, I wonder if I'd have seen it if I'd grown up with Zeppelin... It would have been in my ears a LOT more! Thanks for your additional insights!
@beatlesrgear
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting perspective, Chris. I've long recognized the Plant/Page 'Call & Response' technique (which is originally from early Blues), and I love that about Zeppelin. I've never thought about trying to sing like I play guitar, tho. From now on, I'm going to try that out and incorporate this into my singing. 😁
@VIDEOHEREBOB
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, plus all his early Black Blues influences, and Elvis, a huge influence.
@lewishudson231
2 жыл бұрын
Some people hear that first time when listening to led Zeppelin and they become life long fans but not many people understand how beautiful the music is. Every instrument complements the other.
@scramblerland2648
2 жыл бұрын
Four exceptional musicians working alive and improvising as blues musicians every single night. Four beasts in his best moment, TOGETHER.
@terrymoran8383
2 жыл бұрын
In the studio Jimmy recorded Plants voice as an instrument not a traditional method
@AJTramberg
2 жыл бұрын
Very cool observation. I never heard/thought of that. Maybe its a generational thing, but I never "didnt get" any particular singer because their style was different from a preferred genre. Thats the beauty of music to me. Who wants everyone to sound the same? (which grunge suffered from a little bit). I can appreciate the voices ranging from Sade to John Fogerty, Steve Perry to Janis Joplin, and David Bowie to Paul Simon. I love all of it.
@dyannamedina8456
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve actually been thinking a lot about singers playing their voice like an instrument. Another good example is Amy Lee from Evanescence. She phrases her melodies a lot like a violinist and sings with very beautiful swells. I think that’s why her voice comes off as so angelic.
@juliemanarin4127
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah she is amazing
@dkarahtee5340
2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your videos for years and this is my first comment. You are genius with this take. As a vocalist and guitarist myself, I never really thought about a guitar singing. But it's perfect. Bravo.
@dkarahtee5340
2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the fact that I immediately used this idea in my head to spark a vocal arrangement that sounds like a guitar.......realizing that it was nothing like my "natural" singing voice! Achievement unlocked!
@parkerhatcher224
2 жыл бұрын
Well man. You just blew my freakin mind! I’m glad I haven’t recorded any vocal tracks for my EP yet. Appreciate you very much! Take care 👏
@brentwerley6762
2 жыл бұрын
Well said, Chris… if I could give this video 800 likes and 1,000 loves, I would. RP is my favorite all-time vocalist and as an amateur singer myself I’ve learned to “study” him (as well as others) extensively. I was just saying to a couple of my friends doing Zep at karaoke recently, that when they got to the “improvisational” sounds of the song, they were trying to “sing” them rather than vocalize them organically… it’s a very challenging thing to get into or even “get”; I complete understand why so many people are turned off by his vocals, as I was initially. And just like you, something clicked for me, although much earlier on in my life. Even when as his voice has evolved and he has crossed over into and explored other genres, there is a certain character and texturing to his voice. Love or hate it, it’s the way it is.
@TonyMouawad
2 жыл бұрын
That's brilliant Chris! Love it. When I think of Robert Plant I automatically fallback onto Steve Marriot who I understand was a big influence on Robert Plant. Steve Marriot is just mind blowing when it comes to range and phrasing. His live performances are incredible. Steve's influences are Booker T, Otis Redding, Ray Charles and those cats. And that's where all of that amazing rock/blues vocal phrasing comes from. Evolved of course, morphed and mutated but if you listen closely you can hear the origin of it all every time.
@chrisliepe
2 жыл бұрын
Steve is a great parallel!
@snaremanheaven
2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree-Steve drips with soul-the original blue eyed white soul singer going back to 1965 with Small Faces-and then Humble Pie-he never gets enough credit-shame-
@Darbysmommy
2 жыл бұрын
Plant is a phenom. Been loving him since the 70’s. Saw Zeppelin, and Plant solo, multiple times…. Yeah I’m old
@aspasialogica8416
2 жыл бұрын
Same. Saw Led Zeppelin in 1971, saw Robert Plant last month. His voice is as strong as ever. Great show!
@beatlesrgear
2 жыл бұрын
@@aspasialogica8416 Are you saying Plant can sound like he did in 1975?? I listened to 'Walking Into Clarksdale' and I did not like it because Plant's voice sounded thin, weak, and annoying.
@ER-me1ii
2 жыл бұрын
You may be old but these young fuckers missed the 70’s. Nothing is worse than that.
@aspasialogica8416
2 жыл бұрын
@@beatlesrgear All I can say is he was in full voice at Merriweather Post in June.
@user-bx8sj6qm3w
2 жыл бұрын
I guess I'm a genius for always singing along guitar solos, lol. Also, another singer who does this Diamanda Galás. She collaborated with Led Zeppelin's bassist John Paul Jones on a song called "skotoseme" where she kind of sang what the guitar is supposed to do while John played the bass and someone played the drums. It's a good song and she does some crazy stuff with her voice, it'd be great if you made a video about her. Her screams are also insane and out of this world.
@a.m8878
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Robert did guitar bends with his voice. before Zeppelin i NEVER HEARD TEASING between Voice and Guitar. Suddenly after them, everybody even deep purple from 70 on started doing so.
@cliveedwards2958
2 жыл бұрын
I've only in the last ten years appreciated how brilliant Zeppelin were...and they are unbelievable..but your pointing out about Plant's vocal /guitar trade offs is eye opening for me..I've always known him as a great singer but this explains so much more than I had realised..thanks for the tip !!!
@bartbullock9742
2 жыл бұрын
My older brother work for RCA..... Then he works for Waylon Jennings as his manager.... He had been to many many concerts...... He said he seen Zeppelin twice live..... He said there was something about their presence.... The power..... The groove...
@charliezxi
2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the things I love about going to blues jams. If I’m matched with an expressive guitar player, I’ll signal him or her to take an extra 12 bars for a solo,and mimic lines back and forth.
@irreverentium
2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciated this one, I do tend to sing better when I think of it this way. Axl rose was often described the same way. Also, The high pitched demonstration you did sounded awesome !!!!!!and!!!!!!!
@timtubemusic
2 жыл бұрын
finally someone gets it. Plants voice was an additional instrument layered on the music.
@johnskerlec9663
2 жыл бұрын
Bang!!! You nailed it Chris. Robert was inspired by the blues and his phrasing captured the essence of blues. Feel over technical mastery yet he had the skills to achieve that with his voice. Man, even to this day, I have never heard a singer who could sing The Immigrant Song the way Plant could. Also, on a song like In The Light, as an example, listen to the way he sings the verses. There are so many examples showing how brilliant and special a singer he was. JP was certainly fortunate to have found him, including JB and JPJ for the line up. We'll never see that sort of combo again.
@moodiblues2
2 жыл бұрын
Chris, you must have first heard Robert Plant outside of Led Zeppelin. I came to him on the otherside of his career, first hearing him with LZ. I truly admire your brilliant des of how Robert Plant uses his voice!
@johnpepe180
2 жыл бұрын
Chris You nailed it great job.....
@Bb186fo
2 жыл бұрын
I came across the whole "play your guitar like its a singer" from Derek Trucks' playing! Especially with his slide, his guitar literally sings! Many times it's the most simple/common sense sounding advice that can end up bieng profound & effective. Just breaking things down or even simply hearing them worded in a different way can open up whole new worlds & possibilities. The vice versa of "singers using thier voice like playing an instrument" is also great thinking! A simple idea like that can def change your whole thought & decision making process and potentially lead you to some interesting places!
@AmandaHugandKiss411
2 жыл бұрын
You are exactly 💯 correct about Robert singing "like" a guitar with a vocal guitarist. Listen to Dazed and Confused There are other bands many old blues and jazz singers from way back.
@artsomniacv-logcitybydanie1249
2 жыл бұрын
Dude you are a 100% correct and that's why personally I've been able to create lyrics to almost any song and sing because The voice is an instrument.
@dedexyz8475
2 жыл бұрын
I saw Zeppelin in their heyday 4x; all East Coast late 1960's early 70's. I saw Page/Plant once. Gotta say at 66- I saw ALOT of great rock bands, but Zeppelin- live, was watching musical history. I KNEW it at the time- it was that surreal. I mean when Jimmy Page is strumming a guitar, and playing a keyboard with his feet at the same time, or when Bonham went ape shit during his solo- throwing away his sticks and using his hands....and the blood flying everywhere, well....."the song doesn't remain the same"!
@tylerpace6517
Жыл бұрын
I follow you. I'm working on "Whole Lotta Love" I found myself when I think at my best just being sloppy, just get my voice up there and let it roam around.
@KordTaylor
2 жыл бұрын
You are brilliant. I think once we get out of our own instrument (voice, violin, gtr, synth, etc.,,) we grow so much. Big history there like Allan Holdsworth listening to sax players. 😀
@Sheerkat7
2 жыл бұрын
I just got the Mothership album this Spring and have a new appreciation for Robert Plant, also.
@ronaldelliott4373
2 жыл бұрын
Robert Plant is simply one of the very best at vocal interpretation of melody. Full stop.
@standardofexcellence
2 жыл бұрын
💯
@Oh_I_Will
2 жыл бұрын
Sigur Ros has done the same with their lead vocalist….one would think anybody who has “listened” to music for decades would already know these things
@Zero-Saber
2 жыл бұрын
I started thinking somewhat like that a year or two ago. I sometimes compare voice texture of my favorite singers to a certain instruments: this persons sounds more like a guitar, while this one more like a piano. Or when I think about rap or more rhythmic vocals (walk this way) I think about drums. Also for me it's much more fun to play my guitar sometimes, because I know that if I play the note on a guitar it's always gonna be there, it's always gonna be that note. Compared with singing when I (and I think others as well) would sometimes think 'how do I hit that note, how do I get there?' I want to know with the same certainty that if I want to sing a note, I can do it and hit that note same way it would be on a guitar. Which leads to a conclusion that I need to trust my voice, my abilities and I need to trust myself more.
@dougdickason
2 жыл бұрын
That is the most interesting analysis of Plant and it totally puts into a concept of how to view Plants singing style.
@LouisHansell
2 жыл бұрын
LZ performed call-and-response between each of the players in various combinations. Listen to "Dazed and Confused", for example. The bass opening is echoed by the drums. Then, about 1:15 in, the drums echo the lead guitar. At about 2:15, Plant calls with the lead guitar. In the same section, Bonham and Jones echo each other. Plant did more of what you describe in live concerts.
@alanhandleman6513
2 жыл бұрын
Like so many other great rock bands, Led Zeppelin is, first and foremost, a BLUES band. Nothing makes that more clear than Robert Plant's voice. They're covering songs by Willie Dixon and Big Bill Broonzy and Charlie Segar. The same can be said of the Rolling Stones and Cream and so forth. I was in college when their first album came out. A couple of college friends of mine were great audiophiles, and they said to us, "You guys have to hear this!!!". We were all blown away. And when album #2 came out, he said to us, "This one is even better". We didn't believe him, but he was right. And so it went with albums 3 and 4. Led Zeppelin never failed to blow us away. These were four of the most talented guys on the scene at that time. These guys were SERIOUS about music. The music itself was more important to them than how many records they could sell. The goal was great music. The rest took care of itself.
@paulyguitary7651
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember that Led Zeppelin tribute album from the mid 90s? It had STP, Helmet, Rollins Band, 4 non blonde etc.
@franciscogonzales5928
2 жыл бұрын
I heard Plant tell a story in an interview where he said,in the early days of Zeppelin, Bonham told him , “Planty your not very good.” Maybe that’s what motivated him to find his role in the band.
@Ubu987
2 жыл бұрын
I heard that when Plant auditioned for Zeppelin, Page thought "this guy is just too good. Why is he not already at the top?There must be some hidden downside to his character" so he went asking around to discover if Plant was a raving psychopath or had some other kind of personality problem. Luckily, Robert Plant was just a nice guy with a lot of talent.
@SrbijaCG
2 жыл бұрын
My main inspiration was always Jimmy Page. There are people who are saying that Jimmy Page is not in rhythm. Jimmy Page is a musical genius. And as soon as I hear from someone that Page is not in rhythm, I know for sure that they have touched a guitar twice in their life just to label themselves a "guitarist".
@jamiegunn
2 жыл бұрын
I love this! Amazing story about Robert Plant and how to enhance your voice with guitar riffs.
@peanutbutter35
2 жыл бұрын
My favorite band! Have been listening to them for 50 yrs every day!
@amirthvibin1460
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris when other vocal coaches talk about breating they say stuff like we need to keep our rib cage open and hold it open when we sing why haven't you mentioned that in your videos is it not necessary ?
@deathrattle216
2 жыл бұрын
A video on appoggio and the concept of "leaning" would be much appreciated.
@johnmcbarron7282
2 жыл бұрын
“If you wouldn’t sing it, don’t play it.” - Leslie West
@wizardito7741
2 жыл бұрын
And THAT! It's how i made my guitar solos, after a while when you know so much the fretboard, you just sing the solo meanwhile playing it. If i can sing it, i can play it. And it works perfectly to improvise over jazz, blues, prog, etc...
@stuartewoldt1513
2 жыл бұрын
Funny, this is how they've been writing melody for yrs in studios. But glad you figured out a new technique. Prosperity to you brother
@blackcloud1990
2 жыл бұрын
The vocal coach that vocalists need. Thanks, Chris ! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
@marshallross3373
2 жыл бұрын
You are spot on about Plant/Page combo. While the whole band is great, Page was the driving force behind LZ. From the writing to the performance, it all comes back around to what Page is doing. So, Plant echoing and responding to Page seems to fall naturally from that. I also think that the pressure to deliver shredding guitar night after night on the road may have contributed to Page's addictions, and burnout at the end. Obviously, he recovered, and is a justifiably revered player, musician, producer and songwriter. If he were touring as a young man today, maybe his managers would keep him on a healthy diet and workout routine, as opposed to hopping him up on drugs. In the 70's I don't think they really worried about it, and "the show must go on", after all. I will say that while I agree that playing melodies that mimic a voice line does sound good, I wouldn't necessarily agree that the "best guitarists" play like singers. Robert Fripp is pretty awesome, and his arpeggiated and deconstructed style doesn't correspond to singing at all. In any case, it's not really about what is "best", but really about what each artist and listener connects with, and that can be quite a wide range of approaches.
@ricktheexplorer
2 жыл бұрын
That's really cool. I think Dave Navarro and Perry Ferrell of Jane's Addiction did this as well; that trade off of soloing between lead guitar and vocal.
@amirabbas.v
2 жыл бұрын
I kinda had this in my head since I started singing. I would try to imitate the sound of different instruments specially electric guitar! but never i would've thought that plant actually was doing this all the time. I only did it for fun and practice but I guess that's responsible for my vibratos today
@snakesinner9567
2 жыл бұрын
I've been doing this for a while now. I use the guitar to find melodies and harmonies and as a reference. Works especially well for the blues and blues rock.
@rickreynolds7255
2 жыл бұрын
I grew up on Zeppelin - nothing compares to them to me - almost everything I play, sing, and write is some derivative of them. The first lead I ever learned was from Jimmy Page - almost all my leads stem from that.
@keithking1985
2 жыл бұрын
This happens every musician, we relisten to stuff we didn't like when younger. And realise how brilliant it is. It's part of your growth as a musician.
@rivernorcal679
2 жыл бұрын
You don't have to be a good teacher to get my attention. Nice research brother! Thank you for sharing!
@toboulore
2 жыл бұрын
What you describe is actually playing/singing the BLUES. That's what all these old rockers/pioneers at the time , were doing.
@Me-yj4ki
2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a walkthrough on this band Jinjer - Pisces?
@juliel6254
2 жыл бұрын
If you appreciate jazz, George Benson was a master at this as well. I never get tired of listening to Masquerade! My sisters raised me on Led Zeppelin and I am a huge fan! But that was my era.
@steveazulay8233
2 ай бұрын
What a cool perspective. My eyes are opened
@robiandolo
2 жыл бұрын
A great example of what your talking about is Deep Purple Made In Japan Strange Kind of Woman! There’s a break where Blackmore and Gillan trade riffs all.
@wildwillie5408
2 жыл бұрын
Along the same line of thought. John Popper of blues traveler "played" his voice the way he played the harmonica or vice versa depending how you want to look at it
@Raevyn_Lunatik
2 жыл бұрын
Lzzy Hale (Halestorm) does this, she often sings what she's playing on guitar and it has become part of her "signature" sound. I think if you looked you'd probably find alot of lead singer/guitarists approach singing this way. Great, informative, thought provoking vid as always, thanks.
@jfo3000
2 жыл бұрын
Lzzy is amazing. One of the all time greats.
@jongilbertson2106
2 жыл бұрын
I never thought of that, and I love Led Zeppelin.
@bevo65
2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the club, Liepe! 🤘
@chrisliepe
2 жыл бұрын
The Robert Plant club?
@bevo65
2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisliepe Heck yeah!
@feriedust4402
2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are very valuable and enriching!! Thank you for the work and care you put into your videos ❤
@Awakenedalcoholic
10 ай бұрын
Absolutely!! Yes! You nailed it i hear it after the 2nd verse of rock and roll. You put into words what i realized. Be literally goes up and down the scale like and instrument
@borikuarokero4309
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I'm a singer and a guitarist and yes same thing. My mind thinks in guitar and it sounds awesome
@JamesJones-cx5pk
Жыл бұрын
Ive always thought Shannon Hoon of Blind Melon used his voice as an instrument. Frank Black of the Pixies does it well. He can hit super low and super high.👍
@joseortiz4631
2 жыл бұрын
Cool video, really blew my mind! Love Led Zeppelin
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