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@elainekayes8087
Жыл бұрын
Give up driving
@tadstertrolley7770
4 ай бұрын
Be honest, you pulled out your sovereign citizen 'travelling' card and the judge bought it. Seriously, the leniency people need their heads read in your case.
@TheKnobCalledTone.
Жыл бұрын
This video is way more useful than every single piece of "Is it legal to...?" and "Is it illegal to...?" clickbaity horseshit produced by Drive and CarExpert combined. Congrats on the win, John.
@AutoExpertJC
Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much, Tone.
@dansearle7024
Жыл бұрын
Drive yes, car expert no. Paul at car expert is one of the only decent car journos we have in Australia.
@donr62
Жыл бұрын
I applied for a leniency review for an 80 in a 60 speeding fine and it was granted so it can happen. In my favour was a 10 year clean driving record and the infringement wasn’t in a school zone.
@TheKnobCalledTone.
Жыл бұрын
@@dansearle7024 CE itself is one of the better automotive sites out there and I appreciate a lot of the content they put out, but their recent series of "Is it legal?" articles have cheapened the site just a tad. Honest personal opinion.
@Alpha_7227
Жыл бұрын
@@AutoExpertJC I think you had a fair magistrate on the day that took your prior exemplary record into consideration. Thanks all the same for the tips about section 10 and just to say nothing when a police officer puts words into your mouth saying Did you realise you went through a red light.
@naomilopez3450
Жыл бұрын
I drive a truck and was turning left at an intersection , as there were pedestrians walking in front of the truck the lights had turned orange then red and I was caught in no man’s land . I was forced to make the turn on red , as a result it triggered the cameras. I appealed to state revenue and was also rejected even though the photographic evidence was overwhelming. Feeling an injustice here, I took the matter to court ,the magistrate found in my favour and was awarded a section 10. Like you I formed a strong opinion of state revenue
@michaelking42
8 ай бұрын
Great job, well done.
@Kevin-dp1vy
Жыл бұрын
About 10 years ago I had to collect an engineer from Sydney Airport, complete with his 35 kgs toolbox. As I arrived at the airport I saw him standing at the kerb, so I stopped in a pull-in space, just past the entrance, to allow him to get in. As I got out of the car a ranger appeared from nowhere and shouted something to me. I could not hear what he was saying because of the traffic and walked over to hear what he was saying. He told me that I could not stop where I was and that he was going to write me a ticket. I told him that I could not see anything saying I could not stop there and that I would move the car immediately. By this time the engineer was in the car and we left. Next day a ticket arrived in the post (thanks for the brilliant service Australia Post!) with a hefty fine, not for stopping or parking, but for failing to obey the instructions of a ranger. All of my work colleagues told me that it was pointless to try to appeal the ticket, but I gave it a go anyway. I rang the number on the ticket and explained what had happened. I also said that I had obeyed with the ranger’s instructions and moved my car immediately. To my surprise I received a letter a few days later cancelling the fine because after speaking to the ranger he had admitted that I moved the car immediately. The letter also said that they would not issue me with a parking fine as the parking notice was obscured by another sign and thanking me for pointing this out to them,!
@markselten4985
Жыл бұрын
Had a similar experience at Karratha airport. Circling in and out of the airport car park waiting for a delayed flight. So thought I'll just stop on this gravel strip and run inside and see when they expect the bloody thing to land. I went past the parking inspector who said nothing to me. I get out he was writing a ticket.. he refused to communicate with me until he had finished.. very rude. No sign.. not obstructing emergency services.. not too near the building.. not on any garden.. all these things he tried to tell me I'd done wrong. All he could tell me was that it was a reserve marked on councils website.. like who looks up councils website before parking a car for a few minutes. I wrote a huge letter to council about it and how they had violated their own motto about educating the public as he saw me park and didn't even tell me then.. move on. I told council I take it to court or they can drop it. They dropped it.
@johno9507
Жыл бұрын
As a former aircraft engineer at Sydney, I wish my toolbox only weighed 35kg. 🙂🇦🇺
@jplacido9999
Ай бұрын
Now that's how you would expect your employees to work for you....
@richardlove4287
Жыл бұрын
Around 20 years ago I was a regular donator (around $500 per annum) to the kids charity that the police run here in Queensland. I was stopped on a country road by a traffic cop who jumped out from behind a bush and got me for doing 83 in an 80 zone. No leniency was given or asked for, however I did mention to him that I’ll be using my charity donation to pay the fine if it goes through…and guess what….the prcik lodged it anyway. Needless to say that they have lost around $10k in donations over that time as I now refuse to help the cops out at all. Oh, it was the only speeding ticket I’ve ever had.
@hectorshouse7348
Жыл бұрын
You should’ve asked for leniency
@captbadger3153
Жыл бұрын
I call BS. Cops don’t fine you for doing 3 over
@richardlove4287
Жыл бұрын
@@hectorshouse7348, shouldn’t have needed to mate….another jobsworth cop "just following orders".
@richardlove4287
Жыл бұрын
@@captbadger3153, whatever mate.
@stusue9733
Жыл бұрын
So you were only "giving to the kids" coz you thought it would get you off a speeding fine? I think there is a word for that.
@davetaylor4741
Жыл бұрын
Happy you got off. No harm done. No crash. No injuries. You never even crossed the junction. All good. I have a completely different view of how fair courts are regarding traffic offences. My father whilst assisting another motorist who had broken down got hit by a drunk driver that had left the road. The other guy whose car was broken down, lost his legs. My dad spent 6 weeks in traction. Damaged legs and back. And had continuous back pain the remainder of his life. The drunk got off with a fine. My mother on the way to work was killed in a head on car crash. The van that hit her was on her side of the road. The driver of which had multiple driving offenses against his name. Hit her at a time when he should have already clocked on at work miles away. So was running late. Come to your own conclusions. But got off with no offense recorded. Having killed someone. Just last week I was driving along quite legally. When bang a car hit me from the side. Unregistered car. No Insurance. A young bloke had done a U turn straight into me. Police don't want to know. Non injury traffic accident. Yet the car wasn't registered. Isn't that an offense. And now my insurance is playing hard ball about what they will pay for. When none of it was my fault. So am I enamoured about how fair and wonderful our Police and justice system are. Not in the least.
@notathome13
Жыл бұрын
Yes road $aftey is all about $tate revenue $treams. When govt has a budget revenue expectation it has nothing to do with safety.
@AutoExpertJC
Жыл бұрын
It's a money-making machine.
@hammer313
Жыл бұрын
@@AutoExpertJC that only punishes the poor as a fine is at least 50% of a poor person's pay
@whomcares3438
Жыл бұрын
Yeah tell that to the families of the dead in the Hunter Valley crash. There’s a reason fines and motivation to drive safely exist.
@L3aRn2Th1nK
Жыл бұрын
@@whomcares3438 People who don't care will not care, fines large or small won't make a difference...
@hammer313
Жыл бұрын
@@whomcares3438 you're confused
@ka130258
Жыл бұрын
spot on, ATM on wheels. It drives me nuts when you cop a fine for 3klms over a 100klm limit on a road that presents the best possoble conditions for driving.
@AutoExpertJC
Жыл бұрын
Yes, agreed mate. At the same time, people who've been disqualified for 10 years seem to drive whenever they want...
@Low760
Жыл бұрын
@@kenwilliams3279 road conditions, so on a freeway that you'd be doing 100mph in the UK.
@j2simpso
Жыл бұрын
@@kenwilliams3279 would it be prudent to go 100 km/h on a motorway when it is heavily raining and you can barely see the car in front of you? After all, the sign does say 100 km/h on it and you wouldn't want to be charged with impeding traffic on a busy motorway? Fact of the matter is distance between vehicles and paying attention to the road is what saves lives, not merely speed. Germany doesn't have a speed limit for much of their motorways and yet they have a much lower fatality rate than Australia. Why is that?
@mini_steve
Жыл бұрын
@j2simpso Possibly because the people causing the killings on our roads now have never been told about Hitler, Stalin or Bin chicken Laden and don't know the repercussions of being a c#%t. In other words, we have a lot of brain dead, entitled mother lover's on our roads who think and act just like the fore mentioned and get away with it.
@Fanta....
Жыл бұрын
@@j2simpso Probably because the Autobahn has dual lanes and everyone drives to their comfort level without having to overtake on the wrong side of the road.
@SpencerHHO
Жыл бұрын
Decent judges who use their powers of discretion as needed and as intended are so important in democratic societies. For all the issues in this country, being able to talk to a competent real person in the judiciary when shit hits the fan is almost all their is separating this country from a 3rd rate dictatorship.
@AutoExpertJC
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I saw the magistrate as a much needed check between me and rampant revenue raising.
@DanWhe
Жыл бұрын
You mean the same ones who give lenient sentences to violent criminals and repeat offenders who go on to do irreversible harm?
@MrButtonpresser
Жыл бұрын
Great, but did the magistrate screw your submission up and throw it across the court to the bin? Yessss
@AutoExpertJC
Жыл бұрын
I wish he had... but: his fat cave, his rules...
@creaturefeature7850
Жыл бұрын
I reckon he read it for sure later with his afternoon coffee, everyone in the Prosecutors office would have had a read too. All would have been impressed and recognised the effort you put into it, he knew it when you handed it up, you got credit for giving a shit and being PREPARED. 👏💪
@marklittle3551
Жыл бұрын
Yes John I can relate to a seniors moment. Done the same at a set of lights whilst heading out west via the blue mountains for work at an unfamiliar intersection at 6am. Got one car length then realised it was a green arrow. No traffic so proceeded safely as I couldnt reverse and didnt want to remain there until traffic did arrive. On another point the cops really need to clamp down on wankers that tailgate and idiots that remain in the right lane after overtaking.
@AutoExpertJC
Жыл бұрын
Agreed Mark. It's easy to fuck up in minor ways, and enforcement priorities are broken.
@alli3219
9 ай бұрын
Tailgating is my pet hate, multiple experiences of getting rear-ended, even cars totalled... Aggressively overtaking on the right lane, after they've prevented you from changing lanes AND freeing the left one for them is another one!
@AndyRRR0791
Жыл бұрын
A day in court is definitely a life-affirming experience. It forces you to confront the reality of the lives of many people out there while you wait for your turn.
@AutoExpertJC
Жыл бұрын
True, Andrew. It does.
@mikea7887
11 ай бұрын
Another interesting court day is domestic violence day. In my line of work, I had to sit through one of those days at Campbelltown court....whoah!!
@ankur313
Жыл бұрын
The prosecutor should have dropped the case and it should never have gone to the court. This proves it that its a revenue raising exercise and nothing to do with road safety. Had John just driven off and not stopped then yes he should have been fined then.
@timmoylan1478
Жыл бұрын
The prosecutor would know absolutely nothing about that matter until it was mentioned. It then falls on the rms if it goes to a hearing.
@russellmoore1533
Жыл бұрын
Over forty years ago I got off a parking fine, somewhat like John I was guilty as charged. I parked on a street near a shopping centre the day before Mother's day contrary to a no parking sign that read no parking in the hours I was there. When I got the fine in the mail I noticed that the cop had written on the fine that the sign had read no parking x hours Monday to Friday, no mention of Saturday. Aha, a loop hole, I when to court, and pleaded not guilty, and told the magistrate that the date of the offence was on a Saturday, they checked the calendar and the case was dismissed. The magistrate muttered that maybe the police should read the signs properly. :)
@Humongous_Pig_Benis
Жыл бұрын
They never paid attention at school, so what can you expect from them? Why do you think they became police, engineering was too boring easy for them? #You'reAcop?ShouldHavePaidAttentionAtSchool
@coweatsman
Жыл бұрын
"...stop fighting when you win..." I heard another version of that, "If you're winning shut up".
@TheKnobCalledTone.
Жыл бұрын
In a similar vein, I like the old quote attributed to Napoleon: "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake".
@mahcooharper9577
Жыл бұрын
Great story John. I got a low level revenue camera fine in NSW some years ago and the paperwork that came with it really reflected what it was about. The cheesy "PAY NOW" written all over it made it look more like a cash grab than any other bill I've received in my life. And they wonder why people have a negative view of over-zealous enforcement of minor traffic offences...
@supercal333
Жыл бұрын
Its not just about the money mate. Can you imagine the strain on the system if every man an his dog was encouraged to apply for leniency and take every matter to court?
@Czechbound
Жыл бұрын
Where I grew up, you are required to display a current tax disc on the windscreen of your car. Walking with Dad as a kid through the village he idly commented that ever car parked on the stretch from the green to the police station had an out of date tax disc. He mentioned this to a passing policeman. "Mind your business" was the curt reply. So it was ok for the cops to drive without paying car tax on their private cars. But I'm sure that policeman would have had no problem ticketing a car he didn't recognise further up the village streets ....
@antiussentiment
Жыл бұрын
Most work ever done for KZitem content. ~ laughs ~ But I'm totally happy for crappy, not paying attention to their task, drivers to be penalized. And other than money, I don't know how you do it effectively?
@rollerdoors
Жыл бұрын
I’ve learnt that rocking up to court with even pretend paperwork has got me off on reasonless doubt multiple times 😂. The magistrate doesn’t care for reading. They are also mostly all quite fair and nice to us non cock heads 👍🏻 Surprised you even got the ticket as cameras are supposed to take multiple photos showing passing the white like and also entering into the intersection. Sounds like you stopped before you fully crossed the line. But good work, you shouldn’t be penalised for an honest brain fart. I’ve often challenged fines and either got off or got leniency 👍🏻
@wdhewson
Жыл бұрын
As a child in the USA in the 1960s, the high school driver ed program showed films of bodies being removed from accident cars. To say this made an "impact" on our minds is understatement.
@jeremycookman8825
4 ай бұрын
Yep, In Australia I remember these videos at school in the 80's... it still is in my memory! 😂
@L3aRn2Th1nK
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I just wished this had come out about an year ago. I would have helped me keep my NZ DL record clean. Long story short I bought a car from a seller in another city and go pulled over for going above the speed limit maybe 300 meters after entering an intersection. I had 70Km/h limit in my mind because that's what it was before that intersection but as I pulled out of the petrol station after a quick stop for a snack, that stretch of road was now 50Km/h. It was an honest mistake and as soon as I saw the police lights on the opposite lane I knew it was for me. I pulled over so quickly that I had already stopped when I saw the police officer drive past me on the other side and then do an U-turn. I explained all this to him and he still gave me a ticket. When I questioned him about why not just give me warning and send me on my merry way, he said "If you get pulled over, you get a ticket". That was it, he couldn't have made it any clearer that road safety was not the focus here. Earlier that day I flew from Wellington to Nelson to buy a car and was going to do the long drive through Lewis Pass in order to get back to Picton to jump on the ferry back to Welly. The main roads between Nelson and Blenheim were blocked due damage cause by heavy storm a week prior. His words stuck with me. It was an honest mistake, maybe I missed the 50Km/h sign as I entered this new stretch of road. After all it was a city I had never been to before. I complied, as soon as I saw his lights I thought "did I really just go a bit too fast? I'll pull over then". I answered all his questions respectfully. He asked me what was the reason for speeding and I said I didn't realise I was speeding and I apologised for it if I did. Car was mine and in my name. My records were up to date in the system and my home address matched. I had no fines for over 10 years. The whole ordeal just left me with a sour taste in my mouth about police in general in New Zealand. Still remember about 18 years ago when I came to this country for the first time, that I got pulled over and the officer then explained what I had done wrong and still let me go. He said he'd keep an on out for me in case I did it again, and that he wouldn't let me leave without a fine if it happened again. He educated me and he did not have to reach into my wallet to do it. I heard people complain that it is now all a cash grab operation and I didn't agree. For years I didn't believe it. Always thought they must have done something utterly wrong and they deserved getting a ticket. I guess I was wrong. I guess I should have contested it. I don't think this was fair and now I can't do anything about it. I hit the PAY NOW button and moved on. Thank you for the enlightenment moment John... =)
@howabout8611
Жыл бұрын
Well done John after all you have done for road safety. Justice served!
@AutoExpertJC
Жыл бұрын
Even if that wasn't considered mate...
@stevezodiac575
Жыл бұрын
Excellent advice John! Like you I take pride in my long term, 30+years, years clean driving license (and that last time was a minor and honest mistake) . I try hard to maintain my good record because doing so makes the road safer for everyone. So if I ever get a fine, it will be an honest error, and having now seen this video, I will seek leniency. Thank you Sir! Your advice is highly valued!
@djmini2numpty141
Жыл бұрын
great recounting of your experience. noteworthy is that yes, you may have lost 3 points and copped 454 dollar fine, but an unknown hidden cost is the 40 months it takes to reclaim your third party insurance premium discount, which can amount to an additional $600 dollars over that time. Frank
@AutoExpertJC
Жыл бұрын
Good point, Frank. I hadn't considered that knock-on cost.
@timjohnun4297
Жыл бұрын
A mate of mine had a cop on a motorcycle pull out in front of him once, years ago. He ran over him. They tried everything to charge my mate for the crash but witnesses all said the cop was at fault. Everywhere he went from that day, he had a cop behind him, until he sold the car
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
Жыл бұрын
yep this is the way... The force is a giant mob like structure, they will tighten a net around you and act like your a murderer. Been there done that, i always thought i could trust the police.... yeah... no.
@ianrichardson3228
Жыл бұрын
Pity the subsequent owners of that shit magnet rego!
@petesmitt
Жыл бұрын
cool story bro.. you should know that police can pull the vehicle rego details for any name and/or address, so if they really wanted to harass your mate, he would have to move interstate.
@Humongous_Pig_Benis
Жыл бұрын
If he had installed a rear camera on that car, there would have been some very interesting long term footage...
@jayjays3592
Жыл бұрын
Old wives tail from years ago
@whomcares3438
Жыл бұрын
In Danistan it’s called section 76, Sentencing Act. Proven and dismissed. Regularly used by people with no prior convictions. If you hold recent prior convictions (within the last 10 years), good luck. If you hold none, usually minor offending without mandatory sentences e.g. drink or drug driving, you’ll likely get the opportunity of section 76.
@creaturefeature7850
Жыл бұрын
Points still count tho
@darrensmith9407
Жыл бұрын
It didn't take you 3 minutes to get off scott free, it took you 259,600 minutes...bit of a difference dude
@AutoExpertJC
Жыл бұрын
When you look at it like that...
@deSloleye
Жыл бұрын
Those are heavily multitasked minutes there. So much so that it's likely actually closer to 3
@wobblysauce
Жыл бұрын
And that paperwork shown them you shown effort
@Chaunceygardiner-q5f
Жыл бұрын
Years without a driving offense is an unreliable metric for measuring a driver's competence and safety. A professional driver (truck, bus, taxi etc) with a clean driving record for 5 years is a better driver than a woman who has a clean driving record for 70 years who probably only drives to the local shops, schools and to occasionally drive to the bowling club.
@SIPEROTH
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Is very easy for a woman like that to have years of no driving offence.
@Grasshoppa65
Жыл бұрын
About ten years ago, I was travelling to work on my motorcycle (something I didn't usually do) when I tripped a speed camera on James Ruse drive just before the M4. I was travelling from my home in Windsor. I had planned to use the bike in stead of the train on two days as I was covering for one of my security guards just before Christmas( I was the supervisor of the site we worked at). I was oblivious to the camera fine at the time. The next day, apparently, I was pinned again for the same thing. I was allegedly doing 80 in a 70 zone. At the time I was just moving with what little traffic was on the road at that time of the morning. I received the fines about one month after the actual date of the act. What bugged me the most about these fines is the time it took to arrive at my house. When you get pulled over by the police, you instantly look at your speed and you have an idea whether you were actually guilty. This acts as a motivation to be more aware of your speed and the speed limit you are travelling through. Getting the fines one month later made me feel like I was taking part in revenue raising. The part of the 4 lane highway I was trapped at had constantly changing speeds and just before the camera was a 90 zone. I took it court. I was presented with a folder by the prosecution which contained the said camera's maintenance schedule as well as pictures of me riding down the road. When asked by the Magistrate how fast did I think I was going, I answered "I have no idea". I said all I could attest to was I was riding safely. Having received the fines so long after the incident I had no clue as to the speed I was travelling or, indeed, that I had been pinged by the camera. My record was similar to John's and I was issued a Section 10. One thing different was I still lost all of my points (double demerits were in force at the time). The State authorities said they had proved their case so their penalty still stood. I didn't have to pay the fine but I had to pay court costs (about $50).
@tompchromedome
Жыл бұрын
The "system" screws the average person at the end of the day there is less money in your pocket. However watching "dash cam type videos" on youtube shows lunatics speeding through red lights , four wheels jives driving over footpaths and physical centre islands and then through red lights on the wrong side of the road seemingly immune to being caught.
@petesmitt
Жыл бұрын
the difference with those types is that they know which intersections have camera's or they are driving cars with stolen plates, so don't care if their plate gets recorded..
@bradward7576
Жыл бұрын
I know of at least 960 aplications for review in NSW that where bulk proceeded to collection because the number of requested reviews where to high. So so wrong.
@AutoExpertJC
Жыл бұрын
They are cocks. Complete cocks.
@bradward7576
Жыл бұрын
It's also illegal to say a fine has been reviewed when it hasn't. I attended a meeting where it was explained how they did it. I even lost my job trying to have those fines reviewed. I've got the email that list about half of them.
@muzzaball
Жыл бұрын
Great story John. I like the idea of bringing us the story but not being part of it. Years ago, I was pulled over 1 km from home for not wearing a seatbelt - and the copper mentioned that it was a dbl D weekend too. I explained that I was on my way to work, and reversing out the driveway I had to stop and unbuckle to move the wheelie bin. Anyway, he let me off with a warning, and to try to make good on that gesture, I sent a company wide email telling them about it, reinforcing the importance of seatbelts, and the safety they will be providing over the coming long weekend. I feel that was the least I could do for the leniency I received.
@MsWoodgnome
Жыл бұрын
Thank you John, excellent story telling and you really should have been a lawyer! Been enjoying your KZitem content for a few years now - I keep coming back.
@AutoExpertJC
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I appreciate you watching.
@mrbaker1739
Жыл бұрын
Way back in the early 90’s my shit navigator says right turn here as we about to pass the street. There was no other cars on the road. The rear tyres let out the barest of squeals. Next thing I know there is a cop car racing up behind. I waited for them to put their lights on before pulling over. They asked why the tyres squealed. I explained that I had almost missed the turn. They then said they could have made the turn without squealing a wheel and perhaps my car wasn’t road worthy. I pointed out that they were driving a brand new cop car and I was driving a 15 year old kingswood with 400kg of DJ and lightning on board so their comparison was somewhat skewed. They gave up trying to get me to admit to anything and gave me a warning.
@oldskool1977
Жыл бұрын
😮 *Photographic evidence is no evidence. How? Because you can't cross examine a traffic camera in court!!FACTS!!!*
@Ozgrade3
Жыл бұрын
John, I wish you could do some videos where you interview people, or chair a panel discussion about various subjects, with experts, regulators, etc. You cut through the BS like no other journalist in the whole world and have the knack of making a complex idea or situation digestable and understandable by regular people. Great video.
@Choober65
Жыл бұрын
EVERY person should take these cases to court. It would clog up their system and they'd soon change the law although probably to remove your right to go to court.
@coweatsman
Жыл бұрын
John's car might appear on Dash Cam Owners Australia YT channel at some time in the near future.
@coweatsman
Жыл бұрын
Wait a minute, his car may already have been starred on DCOA channel given that the offence happened months ago.
@thehilltopworkshop
Жыл бұрын
29:13 If you've got references from the Deputy pm AND Jesus Christ, then of course that's clearly going to carry some weight. 😅
@Fanta....
Жыл бұрын
The Judge probably watches your youtube channel. If it takes 36 years for you to get a ticket, I don't think you need to be worrying about fighting for some silly record by wasting 2 days of your life and 300 dollars just to have a judge not even give a rats ass about your "submission". Whether you paid the ticket or spent the day in court, they still won.
@jellybean1976928
Жыл бұрын
You contradict yourself. Admit on one hand "it is all about the money" and then on the other hand say your intolerant to breaking "the rules"? Common Law tells us everything we need about how to live, excessive statutory legislation and rules are not a valid way for a corporate government to run a society.
@Mechautoinsight
Жыл бұрын
I’m off to court at the end of this month. Your vlog has validated my submission approach. I thought I may have over egged the pudding but I am feeling more comfortable thanks to you. Much appreciated. Regards Lin
@yuglesstube
Жыл бұрын
You did spend at least two days on this and whatever you gave the lawyer. You also spent half a day in court. I simply can't see cost benefit ratio making sense. I entirely agree that the authorities have engineered the system to raise revenue. And that's bang out of order.
@kyle782
Жыл бұрын
Storytime: While on my L's on my bike back in 2020 I think, I was sent a fine in the mail for 71 in a 60 zone. It appeared the details were correct. It had the licence plate for my bike etc. However, I couldn't remember riding in that location that was given. I did my best to look up this location and Google Maps said it was in Sydney, I have never ridden in Sydney so that was odd. However, I thought well maybe I am just not finding this road name in the right location and had thought about just paying the fine. I didn't end up doing that. I got home ( I was out when I read the letter) anyway once home I found my way to the camera image (the better quality one) and saw that it couldn't have been me cause I couldn't even recognise the location. Also, it wasn't my bike and it wasn't me. I downloaded the photo, zoomed in on the number plate and was able to determine the actual plate number. So I called up to contest with my reasoning and the girl on the phone was great, she advised me to contest in writing so that's what I did and it was removed from me as the offender. It is always important to confirm whether or not you are actually the one committing the offence. Not just pay it cause it might seem too difficult. I could have ended up with money gone and points on my licence for something I didn't do. Letting someone else off the hook. This also would have done in my record that has been clean since I finished my red p suspension back in the day at 17, 31 at the time of the notice in the mail for the bike.
@jasonh.8754
10 ай бұрын
I had the same in Melbourne many years ago. I got a speeding fine in the mail, and found it odd as I didn't remember driving in that location before. The camera photo showed a completely different car & number plate to mine, but from memory the car was the same colour as mine. It was easy to clear up.
@taxus750
Жыл бұрын
Like yourself John, my driving licence matters (not a motoring journalist but a truck driver). Going back about 10 years, I was about my job (multi-drop HR truck in Sydney) and I turned right at a set of traffic lights 4 minutes before the 9:00am curfew ended - it was a regular run but on this occasion I was a bit early and I wasn't watching the clock. I got pulled by the HWP who issued a ticket and because I've got a national HVDL the penalties double. I got off the penalties because my licence was clean, but what left a sour taste was that the NSW HWP was there at 8:54am at all.
@jasonh.8754
10 ай бұрын
From Adelaide back to Victoria, there was one town with a lower speed limit than the others on the highway (60km/h vs 80km/h or something similar). After 4 or 5 towns slowing to 80km/h, I was pulled up by SA highway patrol. When he told me I was speeding I thought he was joking. Fair enough, all the other towns slow to 80km/h, but this one just happens to be 60km/h. The towns all seemed similar, with no reason for the lower speed limit, and I told him this. It came across as a scam, but suffice to say I paid attention from then on, in case of any more SA traffic department trickery.
@Pohleece222
Жыл бұрын
As a retired police officer, I always advised anyone that I ticketed to go to court. I too, received two citations once when still sworn and once after I retired. Both times I attended court and the results were positive. ALWAYS go to court.
@azzajohnson2123
Жыл бұрын
Thats how most states in the USA got rid of speed cameras. Everyone opted to go to court that was pingged speeding. Clogged up the court system massively. The backlog was so huge they had to turn the cameras off. Many government departments had loans or fees to pay to have the cameras and have them maintained even though they were not being used. It was deemed financially unviable to have them outside of a patrol car situation and they got rid of most of them. People seen them for what they were, speed cameras not safety cameras.
@stewartcash555
Жыл бұрын
Only corporations go to court
@LTLT900
Жыл бұрын
You're a wanker for giving people tickets in the first place.
@Optimiser113
Жыл бұрын
Always about the revenue money and always justified by "road saftey."
@timwilliams113
Жыл бұрын
Well done John! I'm a criminal lawyer in UK. The best words I can hear from the judge is that they don't want to hear from me (or read my submissions). That means I've won. If the judge wants to find against me, he has to be seen to be hearing from me (or reading my stuff).
@vk3fbab
Жыл бұрын
Judges are pretty awesome. Had a few hearings in the last year whereby some false accusations were made. Victoria Police is pretty much forced to act even in the complete absence of evidence. Saw two different judges and they both said the accusations were serious but they also realised there was no evidence. Used a lawyer for one hearing but he was useless. So self represented and the judge was prepared to show heaps of procedural leniency. From my experience they like you to be honest and humble. They have very little time for lawyers that fumble their words and get things wrong. It always helps to be prepared and know what outcomes you could expect. Leave the ego and attitude at home.
@abbott75
Жыл бұрын
I had one recently where I was driving 8km UNDER the limit in a tunnel when the speed limit was suddenly varied down to 60km and I was booked on the camera. I wanted to take it to court, but I ended up deciding the $150 fine wasn't worth losing a day over... Which I'm sure is the conclusion they wanted me to come to.
@brianheard4565
Жыл бұрын
As a 78 yr old driver I can tell you John that your little lapse of concentration is the first of an ever increasing number of lapses as you age, so hopefully you learned from this and work actively to constantly evaluate your behaviour, reactions etc and adjust your behaviour accordingly. I've had to do this, coming up with refreshment strategies, planning trips carefully etc. so far successfully, fingers crossed.
@theosphilusthistler712
Жыл бұрын
This is making me wish I'd contested the "failure to STOP" at a STOP sign fine I received a few years ago. I decided I couldn't afford to lose a case and probably would, but it would have been fun. My defence would have had two parts. Firstly, I had stopped and I believe I did so far enough back from the line that I could see the entire road to my right but the cop's view of me was obscured by a hedge, which was the same colour as my car. More importantly I found that NZ legislation contained no definition of "stop" other than that a "stop" is a "complete stop". Without invoking Zeno's arrow I believed I could have argued that this is too subjective to be meaningful. For what duration must the vehicle make no observed movement and what duration of "stop" can a human perceive? Does it vary between humans? Is perception affected by whether a vehicle creeps very slowly to a possible stop, or stops like an F1 car achieving a 0.1 second pit stop. At what distance and viewing angle can a human perceive this? Does a reading of 0 on a monitored vehicle log constitute proof of a stop (even if the software has rounding) and so on. Oh what fun it might have been.
@Rilstone7
Жыл бұрын
This is interesting in that I had a very similar traffic fine, however when I went to court, the Magistrate, having read my mitigating circumstances, advised me that by pleading guilty, her "hands were tied" and the points MUST stay! She waved the fine, but the points still stayed. Made me realize, I should have plead not guilty even though the camera clearly showed me in breach of the Law
@thewholls7176
Жыл бұрын
Good on ya John A win is a win and yet again, the friggen lawyers got money in their pocket out of it but that’s okay I suppose that’s nothing in comparison to 5 ex-wives…. I had a similar experience many years ago in Canberra long story short. They invented a new offence if you roll over the white line and it triggers the red light camera and you don’t actually go through they book you with obstructing an intersection……. I think they had to invent that offence in order to still make money out of it, considering they spent time putting a letter together and paying to have it sent in the mail to you…..…
@4xoverland
Жыл бұрын
I'm not convinced that the affect of enforcement is trivial. Not wanting to give them too much credit, in South Africa where I once lived and recently visited, the enforcement is so broken, that its almost non-existent. The result is a country where pathological impatience is regarded as normal, where a thousand people die every weekend, and where the on-road aggression is unmatched in any country I've driven in (that's over 20). As a result will base my Africa-based Landcruiser in Namibia, just to avoid having to drive on South Africa's terrifying roads.
@AutoExpertJC
Жыл бұрын
1000 people every weekend - Jeebus... I thing the over-zealous prosecution of trivial/technical breaches is counter-productive, but we obviously need to get dangerous drivers off the road, and you'd think enforcement is part of that picture, but the most dangerous drivers here (the long-term unlicenced) never seem to get removed, effectively, from the driving population. They're always getting pulled over at 110 in a 50 zone, pissed, with two unrestrained kiddies in the back seat. And they drive tomorrow.
@4xoverland
Жыл бұрын
@@AutoExpertJC Easter weekend typically its between 1000 and 1500 dead.
@AutoExpertJC
Жыл бұрын
That's more than the annual road toll here. And the population is only two-and-a-bit times that of 'Straya.
@eoin1959
Жыл бұрын
Well done on the outcome; congratulations John! It's a bit different in WA, but some excellent tips that apply to driving anywhere... thanks!
@conconstantinou2890
Жыл бұрын
Hi john you are extremely lucky. I got snapped by a red light camera for crossing the front line of an intersection to allow and ambulance by. I asked for the photographic evidence and in the 2 pictures provided one had the ambulance and my vehicle the other just my rego plate. I was told that you can't challenge red light cameras under any circumstances
@paulsven7923
Жыл бұрын
22:52 Same thing happened to me - many moons ago my daughter stopped breathing and was taken by ambulance with my wife to Westmead hospital, I followed them in my car and got a speeding fine (under 15 km at the time). I was young and explained the situation so what did they do, took some 20 minutes to issue me a fine. This happened at 3am with only myself and the ambulance on the road.
@cabansail111
Жыл бұрын
I actually got leniency. In fact you get it automatically if you know to apply for it AND have a ten year clean record. I did it online and the result came back within 5 minutes of my submission.
@cabansail111
Жыл бұрын
Apparently Automatic Leniency does not apply to; red light offences mobile phone offences high speed offences school zone offences other traffic offences where safety issues were identified. So that is why you were refused and mine went through immediately. I was just caught in a Revenue Camera.
@Paul-45-70
Жыл бұрын
My last fine was just over 2 years ago, I tried for leniency but failed even though the copper said you should be shown it . I put it down to the lack of funds the government was getting at the time due too the lockdown’s. My crime was. I was travelling on an expressway in a line of 5 cars (I was number 3) up ahead there was a hwy car with a car pulled over (lights on) so I moved into the inside lane to give clearance for the officer standing next to the driver’s door ( no other car in the line did this) unbeknownst to me there was another hwy car just up the road a bit . Next thing I know I’m being pulled over, he showed me the radar gun indicating that I was doing 110 kph and asked me if I had seen the other car with its lights on too which I replied yes that is why I changed lanes. I honestly thought I was doing the right thing with it being a dual lane road but apparently you still have to slow down, anyway he took my details went and did his checks and then returned and asked me whether I have ever had I fine because I’m not in the system, I told him I lost my license in 1989 and have not had one since. The copper then went on to tell me to write a letter and I should get off because of my good record, I asked him why don’t you just give me a caution? To which he claimed he couldn’t. Anyway I wrote the letter, it was denied because of the serious nature of the offence, from memory it was $574 plus 5 points. I never thought about contesting it but after watching your video maybe I should of.😅
@manxman8008
Жыл бұрын
hmm i thought the word of a cop overruled that of a non cop?
@bruzfisher4859
Жыл бұрын
The real message here is being treated like an ATM instead of being like a contributing and law abiding citizen which isnt taken into acct when you are fined by a Computer. In 10 or 20 years time the rights of the individual will be illiminated, scratched out enternally from your right to be treated like a human being, for the good of socitey. A very fucken slipppery slope indeed !! IE this would be a real reason to stand up for your principles in Court. But from the way magistrate treated your submission, I think the computers have won already. The Magistrate is just a courtesy in a court room to appease for your sense of justice. A I is what is really happening behind the scences. Mandatory Retaliation for being Human.
@valherustinger7848
Жыл бұрын
Judge is subscribed thats why he let you go LOL
@ziggassedup
Жыл бұрын
I am also in NSW and I put in an appeal on line and got off because of the clean slate for 32 years...They did however say that the shiny record(Which remains) wouldn't stand if I was to appeal another in the next few years...Cost....$00000000. and 0 points.
@johnbambo9036
Жыл бұрын
in the last 5 years I have been pinged 3 points. All Speed/Red light Camera Offences here on the GC. 3 x 1 Points. All Speed offences. 1st I think was 69 in a 60 zone. Second definitely 66 in a 60 zone and. Third definitely 72 in a 60 zone. All offences did not occur near or at school zones. The First 2 were at the same Red/Light Camera No offences in last 18 months and will be back on 12 points in Jan 24. In all cases 60 zone had just come into effect from a 70 zone. Was I guilty of all offences, yeah, was the handling of my car dangerous? In all cases the light was Green and no collisions came close to occurring. Road safety in Australia is run to the wrong agenda. In my opinion 1 point penalty offences should be scrapped as a points demerit and capped at a $100.00 fine. Absolutely keep the 40k school zones and if caught doing > 50k in these zones its a 3 point whatever $ offence. The essence of my point is that some speeding is not deliberate and in of itself poses no danger in a practical risk analysis. The alternative we all micro manage our attention to our speedometer reading and remain blissfully unaware of what's happening outside the vehicle. Hats off to AE for explaining the court process in these matters but most of us do not have the time of patience to attend court. The aim of the demerit system should be to concentrate of getting dangerous behaviour off the road not revenue raising.
@tlevans62
Жыл бұрын
As a former VicPol Constable, we were taught that the reason you pull someone over for a traffic offense is for safety, to stop the continuation of the offense, or because you found them committing the offense and you need to stop them and point the offence out to them so they don't do it again. I never understood how taking pictures of the offender and sending them a fine by mail weeks later has anything to do with safety. It's simply a revenue raising exercise. Some of the Speed Cameras in use by the TOG in Victoria would raise hundreds of thousands of dollars in revenue in a matter of a couple of weeks. That was back in the early 1990s when they only had a few of them. I bet it's literally millions a month now.
@daintree2455
Жыл бұрын
I heard Queen Anastasia is lowering traffic fines in QLD due to windfall coal royalties...actually I've heard lots of other strange potentially unbelievable things from the voices in my head.... Great advice and information thanks.
@attilajuhasz2526
Жыл бұрын
Well done, mate. Your account at 31:06 reminds me of the movie 'The Perfect Witness' with Aidan Quinn's character, who prepares for a trial and then has a similar pay-off to his preparation (I won't spoil a good film if you haven't seen it).
@johnnie5wreckingyard
Жыл бұрын
Dont forget your greenslip goes up , insurance goes up , you also take up one of your lives on your licence so its not just the one initial cost
@Greolt
Жыл бұрын
I am in Victoria. Sorry. Three times in my driving history I have written a letter asking for a warning. Three times successfully. The rules are that the offence carries only one demerit point. And no other offences for the past two years.
@petesmitt
Жыл бұрын
That provision only applies to speeding offences under 10 k/p/h, which was only brought in after speed camera's came in, which were catching off duty cops speeding the same as anyone else, whereas previously, cops used to flash freddy when they got pulled over.. can't do that with a camera.
@Cloxxki
Жыл бұрын
So with a clean record you might keep it clean. Still, you only tripped a sensor, you didn't cross a road while processing cross traffic and continue your merry way flipping the finger at the light and camera.
@AutoExpertJC
Жыл бұрын
No. Nor was I disqualified, with a kilo of coke in the boot, and four outstanding warrants.
@Cloxxki
Жыл бұрын
@@AutoExpertJC You live to drive another day. It's nice to still have that option available to you as it presents itself. When you get pulled over, you can inform the constable that you walk through court on the regular. I have my latest leniency declaration right here still, and boy was I guilty... Want to get on my magistrate's bad side, now do you, hero traffic cop? 😀
@petesmitt
Жыл бұрын
@@Cloxxki Dirty Harry.. nice.
@Humongous_Pig_Benis
Жыл бұрын
So, TLDR, you've won because you've overbureaucracied them (aka beat them at their own game) and they preferred to let you go Scot-free than bothering themselves to read all those pages filled up with characters.
@badwerds
Жыл бұрын
I don't think that's the takeaway here
@kimbullock475
Жыл бұрын
I’ve done exactly the same thing. No red light camera though. I was lucky…
@marcorav5080
4 күн бұрын
Driver is a commercial term, they can only regulate commerce so unless you are on a payroll (like a bus driver or a taxi driver) then you are not driving and they can't lawfully stop you or fine you in the first place. With a fictional witness who can't even take the stand, the fraud they perpetuate is profound and sickening once you know how fragile their position really is it's almost completely relying on fear and ignorance (mostly fear) to keep you in servitude lol
@robroysyd
Жыл бұрын
I've been in traffic court and fought a damages case after a serious accident and won both times. Two pieces of advice. When under oath tell the simple truth and if you don't remember say you don't. No one can be expected to remember exactly what happened in the seconds before a serious accident involving loss of consciousness. OK another piece of advice. Pay attention to what your counsel is telling you. You're paying them to give you sound advice. The advice from your mate at the pub is worth what you've paid for it.
@JKPilot
Жыл бұрын
Great video, with many salient points. I live in QLD, and the one aspect of enforcement of road rules that absolutely drives (pardon the pun) me crazy, that relates in my opinion to your point on revenue, are the speed camera signs that state ‘Speed Camera…for Road Safety’. They quite clearly should read ‘Speed Camera…for Revenue Raising’, because as you point out, the driver passes through the camera zone at whatever their indiscretion is, and possibly continues their reckless and dangerous speeding, endangering the lives of everyone around them (tongue planted firmly in cheek), until such time as their infringement notice arrives in the mail a week or two later. Whereas most drivers speeding or otherwise, upon seeing a clearly marked police vehicle, tend to immediately check their speed. If road safety was genuinely the goal, more police visibility rather than sneaky, sometimes hidden speed cameras would lead to better outcomes in my opinion.
@arokh72
Жыл бұрын
Also in NSW there is the option for a Work and Development Order. You need to meet certain criteria, but if successful instead of paying the fine you can do a course, volunteer work, or similar, for x hours based on the fine amount.
@Fanta....
Жыл бұрын
I love this idea.
@trevorwhalley7466
Ай бұрын
John, a very interesting tale, peoples driving methods are very very questionable, few obey the rules,laws,signs,etc, and yes its difficult not to break them, one street in London,UK i believe had 27 different signs over a distance of 100 yards,your last advice is the best, GO TO A COURT AS A PUBLIC PERSON,OBSERVE A DOZEN CASES!
@DerykRobosson
Жыл бұрын
Candidly, I was considering that there'd be an engineering angle to the story. Happy for your positive outcome, and experience in court. Did the Crown provide you with disclosure as required? They often don't in these matters. The state has an obligation to prove every element of an alleged offence beyond reasonable doubt. I've always forced them to take me to court. I do it on principle. I reckon that everyone should have the court experience as an observer. Sit through half a day of magistrates, district, and supreme court sessions. They can be anything from boring, exciting, and horrific. Highly recommended.
@dougstubbs9637
Жыл бұрын
And Jesus sayith….”Let he who is without bin camera throw the first squnched up A4….”
@effbee56
Жыл бұрын
0.148 is pretty pissed unless you are a hardened alcoholic. I have seen young women practically comatose at 0.08 and hardened drinkers still able to wobble along at 0.45( potentially fatal for a non- drinker). Drunk drivers are scum.
@shaynegadsden
Жыл бұрын
Honestly i think a huge amount of the reduction in deaths from all causes can be attributed to the mobile phone the fact that when every minute counts near everyone has an phone on them that they can instantly call for help
@markselten4985
Жыл бұрын
And how good are navigation aids that tell you when to make turns.. no more fumbling with maps and trying to remember a string of street names in heavy traffic.
@shaynegadsden
Жыл бұрын
@@gppsoftware that makes sense because of how it all works if it automatically paired it could just pair with cars as you walk pass them, the pairing of devices needs some form of security because once paired both devices are open to all sorts of data access
@swedishpsychopath8795
Жыл бұрын
What you did could be an early stage of Alzheimer's. Been there, done that. Why am I typing this, again?
@manuaot83
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant podcast mate. Good point's, well presented😮😅👍 Traffic Infringment day aye..... Could be a laugh !!!!!!
@souhailshamaissem7564
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you that government treats motorists as ATM machines, it's all about the money and not much about just safety. In saying in 1982 that I was booked for staying over the time limit in liverpool while I went to see the real estate agent. I sent a letter to NSW revenue asking for leniacy and I was let off the fine. Another incident I was booked for not fully stopping at a stop sign back in 1985 and wrote the NSW revenue, I was asked to attend an evening lecture about traffic and driving but I didn't have to pay the fine or lose any points
@Tech-49
Жыл бұрын
In jolly old Dantoria Vicroads records the demerit points even if you get a S10 in court, but you avoid the fine.
@BruceHoult
Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine that amount of effort being worth it for anyone who isn't a journalist being loaned Ferraris etc to test. I've never driven one of those .. or a WRX STI for that matter, though my 2008 Outback is a JDM limited edition (2000 made) STI version bwahahaha. All I can say is I'm very glad it's got EYESIGHT cruise control which is used for all the boring "could creep up to 130 totally by accident" parts. I think it's probably 20 years since I had a ticket, none have ever been serious. Anyhoo ... I reckon for most people simply fronting up at court and saying "Yes, your honour, I crossed that line. Guilty. I'd been stopped for 30 seconds, saw a green light, started to move, realised it wasn't my green light and stopped before entering the path of any possible cross-traffic or turning traffic. Safety was not compromised." would have done the job equally as well.
@SeanAlcorn
Жыл бұрын
I got leniency on “no P Plate” and “rego label (remember those?) on the side instead of rear” on my motorcycle as a mature returning rider. I wrote a letter stating that the P-Plate was on at the start of my journey (which it was & had a witness) and the rego label was where the dealer fitted to the new bike (where they fit all) and they wrote back & said “make sure you fit P-Plate securely. you won’t get it a second time…”
@crazyDIYguy
7 ай бұрын
Over here in the states police in some areas are actually fired if they don't write enough tickets, they literally have a quota. Any new law enacted in the name of "safety" is actually for more profit they can squeeze out of the general public.👌💯
@stryqx
Жыл бұрын
Well done John. My approach in court was far more reckless, arguing that it wasn't for me to decide my guilt/innocence and this was the magistrate's sole "raison d'etre". DPP said for the plea to be entered as not guilty. Asked for the record to show that the DPP's comment was presumptuous. Session was stood down for a later hearing. The protection officer on duty said I was the most entertaining case all day :-) Received a letter in the mail a week later telling me my fine was dismissed on "technical grounds". A lawyer friend told me later that this was code for getting rid of minor infringements where the cost recovery wasn't worth it - all about the citizens being revenue ATMs as you pointed out. Coincidentally, never seen a speed camera infringement in the mail since.
@johncunningham4820
3 ай бұрын
About 14 -15 years ago now , I beat one of these exact things WITHOUT Court . Got the " Love Letter " in the mail . Went to the Website , Purchased the Photos online ($20 from memory) as a reminder of the Day . Thought about it for a Day and then submitted a Detailed analysis of events on the day , at the time . A Familiar intersection . About a week later I received an E-mail that the matter was " Given Leniency in this instance " . Bureaucrat speak . Matter CLOSED .
@johnpitt2742
Жыл бұрын
i understand your predictiment i drove in a coach through a red light in alice springs there was one intersection after another and at the last minuite saw that the second light was red, i hit the anchors and stopped with the back wheels just over the line, but when the lights changed the traffic could not move because i had the intersection blocked so decided to clear the road but there was a traffic inspector right behind me. he pulled me over i explained my situation he asked if i had any pasengers on board when it was no he let me go
@kekenooutthere3095
Жыл бұрын
Opportunity cost $120 for 'free' parking. Entered my details into electronic meters in Leichhardt (Inner West Council, Sydney, Au) - confirmed 30m free parking. Was fined $120 4m later. Asked council for data log "council has no access". Asked Revenue NSW "PAY NOW!". Asked NSW Transport "It's not us!". Mentioned Federal Privacy Act & suddenly a private 3rd party called Duncan Solutions handles parking data. In the meantime, I've had 3 close, elderly friends pass away during this 8 week period, so it was easier to pay $120 so I could grieve.
@deanedeane4318
3 ай бұрын
Come on Dude !!! FESS UP for Fsake !!! You were running late to see friggin Tiffany !!! Senior Moment Really fme 😉🙃😎 NZ
@garrykraemer8993
11 ай бұрын
John, you may have convinced the 'Crown' that you deserve 'leniency'; however, keep several copies for your final 'judgement day'; for the 'King of Kings' will have final judgement authority! (paper toss). You will be held accountable! Good day, mate! (paper toss)! :)
@WogChilli
3 ай бұрын
Mobile Radar and handheld LIDAR operator, I wont mention which models. You could try arguing that the photographic evidence (ie. picture of speed on radar or LIDAR that gets recorded) is not of YOUR speed that YOU were doing and could have been indicative of another vehicle on the road. I know on my devices there was no date or time displayed on the LCD. Radars in particular can be erroneous when you're scanning multiple vehicles traveling in built up traffic, especially dual lanes. I doubt this would work much in court as the police would well and truly have accounted for this somehow, but always worth a try anyway although they probably have new devices that record time and location. When I was rookie I once pulled a driver over for 15kph over the limit and got talking to him for so long that when I went back to my vehicle to photograph the LIDAR gun screen had timed out and wiped the speed off it. Had to let him off with a warning instead. - Request evidence that the radar system had been tested using tuning forks, and again...police to provide evidence. - Never admit to fault if your are asked the usual 'why did you'..., this is a loaded question to entrap you. Good luck.
@johncarne1055
Жыл бұрын
2002 i went to court for doing 124kph. Long story but 25 minutes later case dismissed. Apart from taking in 3 copies etc of my submission my defence was THE CRIME DID NOT FIT THE CHARACTER.. which is a defence. Ie john singleton 1991 speeding in hus RR case dismissed. So in summarion its a balance between guilty and defence. Os it is also about MONEY. Here in QLD just released the gvt expect to collect 850 million in traffic fines in the next year
@janinapalmer8368
Жыл бұрын
I wish you could do ALL adverts .... especially on tv !! You cracked me up with that funny Manscape one 🤣😂🤣... it was fun to hear 😂
@tonypate9174
Жыл бұрын
If only MANSCAPED had a team DILKINGTON range with BOSWOLLOCKS and head like a F@@@ing Orange ?
@SimbianMinistry
Жыл бұрын
This money vs safety governmental policy really ticks a box with me - and the fact they use 'safety' as the excuse to make money ticks me off in a big way. Don't get me wrong - I support the idea of using speed cams to slow people down in dangeropus places, however... I regularly drive the A68 road between NorthEast England, and Edinburgh, Scotland - That road has 17 speed cameras heading North, and 11 south (I counted) along the stretch I use - 7 (+1 more arguably) of those 28 cameras are positioned for safety IMHO - They cover dodgy junctions, blind summits, or an entry to a village from a faster stretch. The rest are on longer straight sections - Many being the only chance to overtake a slow truck after miles of twisty roads - They're positioned specifically to 'catch' transgressors, rather than slow traffic down in dangerous places. Many, many places along that road... junctions on blind bends, schools on village ouskirts, etc, etc... are not covered by a speed camera, where IMHO they should be. In UK, speed cameras have become FAR more of a government cash-cow than a sefety measure,
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