if it came with the original rules i’d see more appeal (though i still have the BRB from 4th so i still wouldn’t get it) but without them it’s of little interest, especially at more than double the original price
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
Big agree
@9woah1horses60
7 ай бұрын
I was almost sold on it until discovering it will be sent white box and no rules.
@LordVader1094
7 ай бұрын
@@9woah1horses60 Seriously, why? It can't cost that much to have box art and rules.
@9woah1horses60
7 ай бұрын
@LordVader1094 because that's what I would want with the models at that price point... last I checked my hobby and my money means I decide what makes it worth getting.
@TheKsalad
8 ай бұрын
The only parts of this set I don't already own are the tyranid terrain and the smaller imperial terrain, the lander has been sitting in my terrain shelf for years and I have more than enough space marines, tyranids, AND random imperial humans sitting around I can do this up myself
@commanderpjt
8 ай бұрын
Mass
@walt_man
8 ай бұрын
What's nuts is this MTO box with no rulebooks/required paperwork, is $180 CAD. Whilst the 10th Ed Starter with 11 Marines, a bunch of Nids and a huge MC, is only $130 CAD. Yeah fella's, we're getting shafted. I recommend a pass.
@Marshal976
7 ай бұрын
Australia is $250AUS, and our dollar is close to yours on exchange rate. I feel more sorry for our New Zealand hobbyist though.
@walt_man
7 ай бұрын
@@Marshal976 I had to check.... just.. wow $250 AUD... *i just laughed uncontrollably* I'm speechless. You'd think GW thinks, Australian min/wage is $25?! or $30? There is no timeline that can justify that price. Absolutely bonkers. Shame on them... $250!!!
@nightfire734
7 ай бұрын
I think the Lt. is such a cool model, I always wanted him. He feels rare and special. While he is a pilot and does hold a weapon, I feel like he is uniquely civilian in his position. It feels special we get a model that is used more as a token than character, and gives us a look into the more human life of the Imperium.
@Miniscape-wh40k
7 ай бұрын
Agreed
@LiliaArmoury
8 ай бұрын
if the crashed lander terrain didn't cost a fortune on ebay i'd already have one, but i am good at scratch building
@8Scientist
8 ай бұрын
I don't understand the appeal of this. They are old sculpts but in the weird middle ground of not being vintage, just kind of out dated. We have new genestealers and new primaris, these models just look bad. Terrain is good though
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
I saw a reel of a guy saying it's a way for GW to get rid of their stock of outdated stealers and termagants. Not sure how true that is but it's plausible.
@bumbyonline
8 ай бұрын
@@Miniscape-wh40kunlikely because the macragge termagants and genestealers are slightly different sculpts to the ones which just got replaced
@scoticvsgossage9378
8 ай бұрын
@@Miniscape-wh40kI took one look at the price and just shook my head. I think I spent under that for two ten man squads of Armageddon Steel Legion, three heavy weapon las cannon teams of the same, and a single lieutenant last year. Far better use of my money, and a cheaper start for my 1k Death Korps army.
@cooperzilkenat3220
8 ай бұрын
Idk I’ve got nostalgia for this mid period of the game
@THX-to6gg
8 ай бұрын
I actually like these old sculpts I’m one of the minority of hobbyists that aren’t that enamoured of the Primaris. Thank goodness for the Horus Heresy marines.
@JuliusCaesar888
8 ай бұрын
This box was always crap. No idea why they are putting it back into the scene, and the terrain was fairly generic.
@joelkurowski7129
8 ай бұрын
Apparently, next year is Blackreach. That has me much more excited
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
To me also. Somewhat.
@joelkurowski7129
8 ай бұрын
@Miniscape-wh40k and I can only hope this means we're getting Dark Vengeance the year after that. Although that's getting a little bit outside of the Oldhammer sphere which is the point of your channel. Us Chaos players love The Minis in that box, though. Especially those cultists. That's peak 40K for me
@Neriko44
8 ай бұрын
@@joelkurowski7129 I believe Dark Vengeance was re-released a couple years ago
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
@@joelkurowski7129 I love the cultists too. I have some in my night lords army. See my other video (shameless plug)
@joelkurowski7129
8 ай бұрын
@@Miniscape-wh40k will do! I think everybody loves those cultists. James needs to quit playing around and just reproduce these as their regular cultist models already
@SlabBulkhead
8 ай бұрын
The lander looks nifty but terrain has mostly moved beyond "blob that is difficult to place minis on" which would leave it out of place in a lot of collections.
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
Good point
@username12120
8 ай бұрын
Yeah, now it's all boring L shapes. My how we've advanced.
@SlabBulkhead
8 ай бұрын
There are definitely too many Ls but we've also got the space hulk terrain, all that cool necromunda stuff, good looking gantries, etc. @@username12120
@damionkeeling3103
8 ай бұрын
It's a crashed ship which Varras has walked away from. One of the missions is to retrieve a power unit from the ship. There is a power unit accessory which can be placed into a bay on one of the ship's engines
@ironreaver4589
8 ай бұрын
I really want a Lt. Varras but not for 250 AUD. Will just keep an eye on ebay or get someone to scan one and 3D print it.
@toastle8005
8 ай бұрын
Just clicking onto the video, 250 WHAT
@ironreaver4589
8 ай бұрын
@toastle8005 yep down here in Australia it costs 250 Australian Dollars. I was excited but I can but a whole new combat patrol for that price.
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
Combat patrol for the win. Nicer minis too.
@toastle8005
8 ай бұрын
@@Miniscape-wh40k I’ve collected pretty much fifty of these exact space marine sculpts from cheap second-hand lots on eBay, too… A single, ten-man tactical squad. Are the only space marines in a $250 AUD box, with only ten termagaunts and an illegal squad of genestealers, and some scatter terrain. I… I just need to sit down for a minute
@heartsickruben
8 ай бұрын
I just don't see the point why they picked this to re-release. Oh well .. like you said. Enough mini's to paint!
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
More than enough mate
@WilhelmScreamer
8 ай бұрын
Thematic relevance to the current edition plus ticking up from the previous 3rd edition box
@michaeltunnicliffe4935
8 ай бұрын
Hard pass from me too. - If it came with rules, it could as you say be a fun stand alone game allowing players to relive 4th edition. But it doesn't - If it was released at the same cost as when it first released, it could be a great little way to encourage first time hobbyists to the game as the current starter sets can be a little on the expensive side for anyone uncertain of if they actually want to commit to the hobby. - If it was something more interesting like speeders, a land raider, tyrannic war veterans or assault marines, it could have been a cool box to relive. But i found this box boring at the time and it's boring now. I mean, just troops. Yawn. Instead its an overpriced, boring and pointless re-release as you don't get any rules to revisit 4th, you can get much more interesting and modern models for less in the 10th edition starter set and the idea of paying twice as much as back in the day for a box containing less content is just ludicrous to me. Its the same reason i'm not interest in Old World as they are rerelease old models that they once considered not worthy of selling (when they ditched Warhammer,) And I know they will charge modern prices for that old tat. It's only good for the nostalgia, which is fine, but don't overcharge us for this shit. Or do nostalgia in an interesting way. Maybe release the same content but using newer models (aka primaris marines and brand new nids) with a new sculp for the pilot and the scenery.
@robertgagne2388
7 ай бұрын
Well Said!!!!
@Sturmensky
7 ай бұрын
Extremely well said! And, as someone who was looking forward to Old World... unfortunately correct.
@heraissilly
7 ай бұрын
I am lucky enough to still have all the pieces of my childhood battle for maccrage, so i don't even need to worry about this question
@HeartlessNinny1
8 ай бұрын
It looks like a decent box, but a little too rich for my blood. I dont have nostalgia for 4th, either... For me its 2nd & 3rd. I do love the current rules though, so I'm sure ill be nostalgic about 9th and 10th in about 20 years. 😛
@windsweptjoe442
8 ай бұрын
This set is $250 in Australia...GW are out of their damn minds.
@euansmith3699
8 ай бұрын
£90 for a Lieutenant Varras model, and a bunch of other stuff?! Hmmmm... tempting... 🤔
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
Varras ❤️
@johnbursi2804
7 ай бұрын
The helmet of the black reach missile marine is my all time favorite space marine headgear. It’s kind of MKlV-ie but with hoses and tubes connecting it to who knows what. Probably a filter for the missile exhaust. I have two currently. About that second lieutenant though…maybe a give-away prize down the road, or I can send some seed money for a black reach re-release?
@Miniscape-wh40k
7 ай бұрын
Yes I liked him too. The second lieutenant has in fact been donated to a good cause.
@WilhelmScreamer
8 ай бұрын
Doing the cost analysus on this tricky for me. The lander alone takes it to nearly worth it.
@AshleyBlackwater
8 ай бұрын
The price on minis alone meets the mark. Tac squad - £35 (35) Genestealrs (£32.5 for 10, so lets half that for) - £16.25 (51.25) Gaunts - £25.50 (76.75) GW no longer sell spore mines? I'm seeing them going 3rd party for £17 - so lets say £93.75 (theres also some that come with the SPOROCYST AND MUCOLID SPORE kit, but eh) After that, the old terrain, pilot, pylons, and nid pit things are "free", they will go for like £30-50 on ebay maybe 40k is expensive, but this honestly isn't bad compared to what it could be
@WilhelmScreamer
8 ай бұрын
@@AshleyBlackwater the other half of the price question is what elements I will actually use, I have a clear vision for the terrain and tacticals, but know that selling the nids is a fools errand
@AshleyBlackwater
8 ай бұрын
@@WilhelmScreamer If you aren't using the nids the price isn't the worst. Maybe a "battle for maccragge nids half" will sell easily enouth, but not sure. Bound to be a nid collector that doesn't want the marines or terrain right?
@Fortunate_Fennec
8 ай бұрын
Absolute consoomer mentality.
@WilhelmScreamer
8 ай бұрын
@@Fortunate_Fennec that would be snap buying it without thinking.
@t.mcgarry4
7 ай бұрын
My big issue with it is the fact that it's made to order. I bought Severina Raine when she came back as a MTO it took literally 9 months to get ahold of. I just cant be bothered waiting almost a year to get some models i could probably find on Ebay anyway
@northumbriabushcraft1208
8 ай бұрын
3rd and 4th ed were the best editions in my opinion. Still it seems weird that they are re relasing this set The lander is a cool bit of scenery, i love the pilot model, but £90? Damn.
@robertgagne2388
7 ай бұрын
I played RT and 2nd , however I agree 3rd was the best and I played that a lot, 4rth was a close 2nd to third, GW well they lost me after that, I would buy collect but didnt play as much. I just didnt like the rules anymore.
@perotekku
8 ай бұрын
I think we all agree, that an updated kit with the new 'nids and Primaris marines would be dope. You know, so we could get some official MkVII Aquilla Primaris armour.
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
That would be cool
@pentacosttb2565
8 ай бұрын
I’m really hoping Horus Heresy 3.0 goes into the Scouring and gives us true scale MKVII. Although I definitely hope we get MKII and MKV well before that.
@theylivewesleep.5139
8 ай бұрын
🤮
@Hugme778
8 ай бұрын
As an modern 40k player (2018 -) these sets interest me. Of course this isnt my faction but by all accounts to me this is as much "old hammer" as a 3rd edition codex. Price too high qs usual though
@jackowsky86
8 ай бұрын
I love the idea of rereleasing old edition but this one is the least interesting.
@V0IV0DE
8 ай бұрын
I've played the missions from this set with a friend recently. I've used count as terrain and a count as for Varas, it's was fun, but I fell that some of the missions were a bit of a pain, be that for the Ultramarines side or Tyranids. Once you have a bunch of these spore mines on the table, your movement phase gets pretty annoying, what I did is put my friend to also roll the scatter and D6 so we wouldn't be waiting a lot. Overall people get a pretty idea from how to play Warhammer from this set, but I prefer Black Reach(even though it didn't had a campaign and the Ork Side was a little bit underwhelmed in points, which can be easily fixed adding another unit of boys, or another unit of Deathkoptas or even removing one of the units that has the point costs for the Marines(I can't remember which right now). I feel like even though Black Reach didn't had terrain, it was a more versatile set as a "starter one". Some of the exclusive sculpts are also better than this set. I guess they will be releasing it next year, unfortunately, GW doesn't release with the older manuals or all the paper instructions that came with these boxes. A shame for some of the collectors and people who enjoy middlehammer.
@basition
8 ай бұрын
I began playing around 4th and it was my starter. it really wasn't worth it back then either. i ended up with two landers i have no idea how but it's the sole reason to buy this thing and honestly it's not worth 90 quid.
@LinkiePup
8 ай бұрын
Me personally, I may. But it doesn’t hold any nostalgia for me either- hell I started with 9th. I understand why some people don’t want to. Though the models are outdated, and old, the terrain is nice, and I like the older models as they’re dopey and goofy looking. And hey- if they come with fancy transfers, I’ll take it.
@dominikfittschen2955
8 ай бұрын
The Box was "OK" at the first Release as it's price was 50-60€ now IT IS only overpriced garbage .
@ApexBovine
8 ай бұрын
If they re-did assault on black reach with updated models then we'd be talking. This one tho? I sleep.
@Rage_TM
8 ай бұрын
Out of all of the sets, ironically this boxset is the one I still have everything for. Found someone who was selling a sealed on for around $100 a couple years ago, and just kept everything for it. Cool I guess that they did it, but really no reason for a very small group of folks like me.
@kengeerts1406
6 ай бұрын
I recently went to a hobby swap meet and got the terrain for only $10. He still had the reciept from when he bought it in 2007
@Miniscape-wh40k
6 ай бұрын
Wow 😲
@ktg8030
8 ай бұрын
A lot of modern gamers seem to crap on the 4th ed starter, but I think its one of the best early ones. It, along with The Battle Rages On, provide a series of escalating scenarios to play through, introducing new units as it goes along, and I love that sort of thing. The Battle Rages On wasnt sold in the US, so it might be hard to find. Not pitching a sale for this re-release, since it doesnt come with any rules, and aside from the crashed shuttle, I am really not sure why anyone would get this, unless to replace their old minis. Does anyone know if the box is being redone too? Or is it just the contents.
@DouglasParkinson
7 ай бұрын
"Re-issued in Black Reach" is a little inaccurate re the bolter tactical Marines. They were improved for the 5th edition starter box, with added details, ornamentation and a mixture of armour marks, for example the missile launcher having a Mk5 helmet. That last part is particularly important to me, and a reason why I prefer the older models to the new Primaris stuff. But I do agree that the lieutenant and the wreck are the only reasons I would get the box, and they can certainly be found cheaper online for just those parts. Besides, I have 3D printers and can make an approximation of the latter as per your mention.
@robertgagne2388
7 ай бұрын
I bought 3 of these sets back in the day when my kids and I were playing 40k on the kitchen table. The set was cool and we had a blast, They got older and lost interest so I am the holder of multi-sets with extras. GW is asking way too much so in my opinion I think 65 - 70 dollar price tag US would be a fair price but not 100+ dollars, I believe the UK price would be about 50lbs. Like you I have spares galore, I still have a full company of Tac Squads from this set (60 marines). The space marines are in bags in a box all their own. Plus all the other stuff too. If GW would drop the price I think this set would sell pretty well. A pass for me as well.
@theylivewesleep.5139
8 ай бұрын
Assault on black reach would’ve been a much better rerelease.
@RandomBl0ke
7 ай бұрын
This was my first set, got given it by my brother when he went to uni (he got it for Christmas ages ago but had it in his cupboard until this year), so it's square one to me and practicing on those tyranids really got me into everything really
@jamesstewart7784
8 ай бұрын
Re-release an old fan favourite - Remove contents (Rules and books, whippy stick, templates) - and pay full price!
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
#marketing
@wilsun3638
7 ай бұрын
2:57 gave me a massive nostalgia wave, now assault on black reach is a kit I'd definitely pick up! That was my in to w40k, I still have a couple of the models left over but I lost most of them. Would love to get this box again, and not for the unbelievable price that it goes for on ebay! £200-300!
@johnfarscape
8 ай бұрын
I still have my original one, I kept every starter box, all painted up to match the box art, as I used to run demo games for each edition, tbh I think 2nd edition was the best value for money, and the most fun to play as starter battles. . 3rd was probably the most imbalanced, the Dark Eldar didn't stand a chance. . Leviathan (people still can't decide if it's a starter or not) was the best looking for purely models in the starter of the primaris era imo. .
@danielcannon9893
8 ай бұрын
Lt Varras is interesting to me but I’m not dropping $150 for him.
@iceniwargames6347
8 ай бұрын
The scenery is interesting, but not worth paying the huge price tag for.
@thresholdau
8 ай бұрын
Seems like a strange release. A lot of people are much more nostalgic for the older marines and these seems like the least in demand marine models over all the years.. or maybe thats my bias.
@Azrael56
8 ай бұрын
They moved a shed and found old boxes, it wouldn't be the first time^^ Making a Killteam box with that content but with modern mini is a better idea.
@StankRush
7 ай бұрын
still have the Blackreach Box opend it once but nerver build it
@SCHMALLZZZ
7 ай бұрын
I still have mine with the box. Lost the missile launcher lad over a decade ago when i moved out of my parent's.
@TimmySmalls22
8 ай бұрын
I bought an eBay lot of this set with most of everything. What wasn't included i simply used my own Tyranids and Marines. The lack of the rules seems like such a huge oversight. I dont think the set is worth it. Perhaps, i would be singing a different tune if i didn't have the terrain. I've painted it up and tried to use it in every game.
@zephyrstrife4668
7 ай бұрын
Not interested, i was disappointed when i got the Leviathan box and found out that 2/3 of the leaders couldn't even lead the squads included in the box. No Gravis armor units for the medic to lead, only one 5-man squad of terminators for one of the two terminator-armor leaders to use as bodyguards. I love the models i got, but i find myself no longer interested in playing tenth edition since i have to buy the codexes in order to use their rules on the app. I might still buy models from time to time, but only to use as proxies for Grimdark Future and Grimdark Future: Firefight.
@Rothgar59
7 ай бұрын
I actually missed this boxed set the first time round, I'm pleasantly surprised at the price (in AUD) I know it's probably a price gouge compared to the original but for $250 you get a some non-MK10 marines (a big win) and some tyranids, the terrain is just a bonus at that point. As GW kill off more and more non-MK10 armoured marines, sets like this and made to order runs are for me going to be the way forward to expand my collection. You mention eBay, and I have seen other channels with rescued miniatures, but in Australia at least it seems that all the listings end up higher than new cost with postage, and the "pro-painted" offerings all seem to be well painted (but not in a scheme that fits my army) and exorbitantly priced, or painted terribly and still asking high prices.
@PucknellProductions
7 ай бұрын
£90 is ALOT for this - if they'd released it for £50 they'd get more buyers
@criticalcommenter
8 ай бұрын
Why would anyone buy out of date minis for premium prices?
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
There are some out of date minis I really like but the price for these is too high for me
@quakeSanchez
8 ай бұрын
What's 'out of date' for one person is a 'cool retro' or 'collectible' for another. The problem with 4 ed starter set that it's a lot of 'mostly standard' miniatures re-released with a big price tag.
@criticalcommenter
8 ай бұрын
@@quakeSanchez yeah, over priced and out of date. You're just repeating what I said
@Inconvenient_NPC
2 ай бұрын
It was £35 back in 2004.
@alexhamilton6188
8 ай бұрын
Awww no Lt Varras song.. 😅
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
Maybe in the future
@Hurricanelive
7 ай бұрын
GW just super hungry to start squeezing and chasing nostalgia dollars. Pretty pitiful. I got two complete sets for $80 last year with a bunch of extra 4th edition books. I wouldn't pay more than $65 for this set with probably just a downloadable pdf rules. The set that might passably get me to do a double take might be the Templar Eldar 3rd edition, I have one without the eldar but still wouldn't pay more than $65. There are many decent 3rd and 4th edition boxes just like Black Reach, but man, prices are too damn crazy for reprints, GW want blood from a stone. I'd say get an old one, piece one or have one printed. Even the bastardized space hulk GW began shilling turned me off.
@JDSG360
8 ай бұрын
Battle for Macragge was my first starter box. Will i be buying it? no, have no need for it. And its expensive
@cenomnestpasvalide2201
7 ай бұрын
The only interesting part of the box is the terrain. In my mind, they added the minis to bump up the price of the box, because really they're useless to most. Though it does make the box not worth it for many who would have wanted the terrain pieces.
@murfmurf313
8 ай бұрын
I don't know why anyone would want to buy "new" a set that GW is orphaning with haste. I have 20K (in some version of 40K) of "old" marines already that includes some RT models. I like the new size marines.
@brionl4741
8 ай бұрын
I didn't buy it on purpose the first time it came around, and I'm not going to buy it this time either. For pretty much the same reasons. The only thing I'm even slightly interested in is the crashed lander. But not US$150 interested.
@jayvin439
7 ай бұрын
I recently bought all this including books in a job lot.. Even though I was collecting in 3rd and 4th edition, the nostalgia from this set is non-existent. So it was all sold fairly quickly, but not for £90.
@Mk12dexxa6
8 ай бұрын
Its a very nostalgic set for me but I still have the minis and the lander... I wish they still made the Aquila lander (not crashed)
@user-zd6hc9nh8m
8 ай бұрын
I hadn’t been born yet so the nostalgia doesn’t really seem to have an effect on me lol. This seems like something the older members of the community might enjoy a bit more lol.
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
Older lol 👴
@thejonathan130
8 ай бұрын
Understandable
@cheech381
6 ай бұрын
yep that was good too
@gbmgaming
8 ай бұрын
I am a bit bias because the Battle for Macragge was my starter set, my introduction to Warhammer 40k, I still have the sergeant as he was the first model I painted and I don't care for the Lt so its not worth my time, still cool to see GW give it some love
@impguardwarhamer
7 ай бұрын
it pains me to say it because I do really want gw to do more of these made to order sets, but yeh at this price point with this set of minis its just not worth it
@Miniscape-wh40k
7 ай бұрын
I want them to do more retro sets too but I also want them to be realistic
@armin8306
7 ай бұрын
I liked the black reach set more...
@danbrown2473
7 ай бұрын
Not had decent ginger bread for years.
@Miniscape-wh40k
7 ай бұрын
Grasmere in Cumbria sells the best
@Chaosmage42
7 ай бұрын
have to agree with you on the hard pass, while i do like the unique mini of the pilot i feel its over priced and i just don't like how the wreckage looks if anything it should be more damaged -not just the color but there should be more off it i feel its just not dynamic enough. I feel you can make a good version of this if you bought some of those discount buzz light year movie toys and cut them up and used those. they are cheap at target in the usa and i feel that you can get the rest and must doctor up an old style scout into the pilot the other terrain well we have green stuff for that
@Cozza69
8 ай бұрын
After how he treated their old space marine molds along with the price which is way to expensive is not worth it
@Volf1916
8 ай бұрын
For the ridiculous price and most of the minis you are not going to use except to put into a box of non usable, yeah, no sale here.
@fkaroundhandleit
8 ай бұрын
I don't understand why they remade the box. It's cool, but it's only for collectors, at least for the marine players.
@michaelkeha
7 ай бұрын
Honestly my bet is they are going to use this not selling like crack as the excuse to us for legending the firstborns and saying if you didn't want that to happen we should have bought the box
@Miniscape-wh40k
7 ай бұрын
Fair enough. I think legending them is on the cards but if they do it for that reason then they would be ignoring that the firstborn tactical squad is still selling well. Idk we'll see.
@michaelkeha
7 ай бұрын
@@Miniscape-wh40k See they are committed to killing firstborn at this point as they had the cake and eat it too scenario on the table and ignore it we don't need 40k to ever give us a new firstborn ever again since 30k would cover it but they have basically removed any compatibility between the two games at this point right after a lot of people just bought the new plastic kits for 30k for units they always wanted but couldn't afford the resin prices Also I still think primaris are a huge mistake as they turn marines from a beginner friendly army into just worse aspect warriors
@ventgoblin330
8 ай бұрын
Lieutenant Varras my beloved
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
😍
@Namehack
8 ай бұрын
I've never understood the appeal of the crashed lander terrain. But thats me.
@SlabBulkhead
8 ай бұрын
I think the appeal is that, like the navy mini, it's something you never really saw in 40k back then. A slice of the universe that was only accessible through lore. But now we've got breacher kill teams and other oddball stuff like that it's lost some of its uniqueness. There also wasn't much official terrain at all back then. Compared to the jungle trees (still unpainted in my bits box twenty years later!) it was very impressive.
@DMKA94
8 ай бұрын
@@SlabBulkheadAlso a massive jump in quality compared to the 3rd edition plastic ruins (also unpainted sitting in a bits box!)
@raymondwright5996
7 ай бұрын
About a year before this was rereleased I bought it NEW for over $50 what GW is asking. I mainly wanted the terrain. This was the Starter Set when I first got into 40K. I used to think, wow $90 was too much.
@Boltscrap
8 ай бұрын
Also, the 10th edition starter set, which retails for 65 pounds on the same website as Battle for Macragge, comes with a much more impressive, and modern selection of space marines and tyranids. And it comes with the rules and dice.
@Khobai
7 ай бұрын
$150 is absurd for a set that used to cost $45 back in 2004.... inflation since 2004 is 68% not 333%. adjusted for inflation plus a small increase to account for smaller scale production, the correct cost for this box set would be $85-$90, not $150. Im sick of companies blatantly price gouging then blaming it on inflation. GW has been charging 50% higher prices than inflation dictates for most things just out of sheer greed.
@pinny852
8 ай бұрын
I’ve been trying to sell this set since I bought it 20 odd years ago. No one ever showed interest
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
I am 😉
@bradp6452
8 ай бұрын
Price is very high. Still have the set including the box and rules. I think I paid like 48 dollars new and now they want 150 which seems crazy. This set is really more like a kill team set now which would have been a better way of using it then just printing the models with no rules.
@smole321
8 ай бұрын
It is not even a remake of the original box as the original had more terrain etc in
@InfraSaturn
7 ай бұрын
I had the original box, what extra terrain was in it? As I only remember the pylons, crashed lander and the fuel cell thingies.
@Grymbaldknight
7 ай бұрын
As much as i adore this era of 40k (3rd-5th was glorious), and I love this starter set for its narrative focus and gorgeous terrain... I wont be getting it. I'd only be tempted by the crashed Aquila Lander (which i already bought off eBay) and the pilot (whom i can get for cheaper than £90). As much as I genuinely love the sculpts of this era, i don't collect either Tyranids nor Space Marines. Even if I did, I could get second-hand armies at a much better price. This said, I am happy to see GW re-releasing old starter sets, and old kits from this era in general. I'd love to see a run of old terrain from this era, such as the Fortress of Redemption or the Imperial Sector.
@Ghoulonoid
8 ай бұрын
I mostly collect metal, but a big point of contention with this thing is whether or not Firstborn are going to be relevant for much longer. I feel like GW will never fully squat Firstborn, but they're already borderline irrelevant in the current rules and a lot of their models got discontinued in 10th. Why purchase and paint another tactical squad if its going to be useless on the battlefield and the set doesn't come with any unique rules or scenarios for standalone play?
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
Well said
@daiatnara971
8 ай бұрын
I'd also drifted out of 40k by the time 4th edition rolled around, so there's no real nostalgia in play - although if I was gaming rather than just painting, the terrain would be a draw. The minis (aside from the handsome Lt Varras, I love 'accessory' minis that draw on the broader lore of 40k rather than just being yet another trooper of whatever kind the army fields - similar to the space marine armies in old battle reports where they'd have a primaris psyker along for the ride) don't seem anything special, just serviceable renditions of marines and bugs - I didn't even realise until you zoomed in and started describing them that the marines weren't just reuses of the 3rd edition tacticals. Fair play to anyone who was engaged in that era though and fancies the set - if it does well and GW do further nostalgia rereleases, I'd be all over Dark Vengeance with all those chaos minis.
@LordVader1094
7 ай бұрын
That bit about loving accessory minis is totally me as well, it's why I always loved Varras' model as a kid.
@uzzle5441
7 ай бұрын
I just wanting Battle for Skull Pass for the pure nostalgia! I promise I am not just a filthy fantasy player! I too would get Assault on Black Reach!
@christianvandenboorn6001
8 ай бұрын
besides the lots i have on nids and ultra marines. Maybe with searching i find the exacly models. i know i have at least the pilote and en terrain pieces
@antongunther3977
7 ай бұрын
there is also one more route. "Vroom"
@TheEr910
8 ай бұрын
Pass. I was gifted the Macragge terrain and most of Dark Vengeance.
@jeffjeffson5967
7 ай бұрын
What was the reversed sounding music that you used?
@dittmar104
7 ай бұрын
It was a complete miss for me. It should have been reimagined as a kill team box just 5 new gene stealers, 10 new gants and ten intercessor. Call it a battle simulation used for training or history repeating itself on a lost colony
@Aanderan
8 ай бұрын
It was way too pricey then and it's only gotten worse lmfao
@Ragsta
7 ай бұрын
Varus the heartthrob lol
@Miniscape-wh40k
7 ай бұрын
Oh man he is ❤️
@Cynidecia
8 ай бұрын
I like these old models but at that price? lol lmao.
@blazingknight.
8 ай бұрын
4th Edition is the one I started in (at least started playing). I remember this box, never had one, though my friend got it. I love Oldhammer, I collect old stuff as well as getting some new things, so I should be the perfect target audience for the set. Well, I'm not buying it. Part of the reason being the fact that earlier this year I actually got most of this box (I had some stuff from it before, like generators and beacon) except for the tyranid part. And even though it is considered a collector item (until it's re-released, since the re-release will bring more items to the market), I got it all cheaper than it would've costed me from GW with their price. Way cheaper, like, I can easily purchase tyranids part and still the total price would be lower. But I'm pretty sure that if it wouldn't have been the issue, if I didn't have the set -- it would've been a pass for me nonetheless. The price is ridiculous for this set, the lack of the original scenario book doesn't help either (glad I got one myself). Even funnier is the fact they've announced this box a day before they showed the Dark Angels upcoming releases, including huge Deathwing Assault box. Well, I think I'll get it instead of the Battle for Macragge
@OBeardyOne
8 ай бұрын
Showing the new DA box shortly after this announcement is a head slap moment - I’ll be getting that instead
@Pikkabuu
7 ай бұрын
Back in the day when this came out it cost 50€ and was a bargain. Now GW is trying to sell this for 120€ and the models aren't anymore current. So basically you are paying 120€ for some terrain and nostalgia. But there are way too many people with money burning in their pockets that this will sell...
@dwarfflesh
8 ай бұрын
But we must retrieve the gene seed
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
We must!
@bigfil1981
8 ай бұрын
Are you buy any chance from the same part of the country as Julien Barrett the actor?
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
Who?
@bigfil1981
8 ай бұрын
@@Miniscape-wh40k he's from the Mighty Boosh. 😅
@Miniscape-wh40k
8 ай бұрын
@@bigfil1981 oh...we're probably not from the same place. My accent is a bit odd since I have lived in a few places.
@B1-997
8 ай бұрын
250 aud for this no thanks, maybe if it was 150-200 aud would’ve seriously considered getting.
@kharnifex
8 ай бұрын
Please buy our old rubbish!!
@TimmyTheNerd
7 ай бұрын
Not worth the $150usd. It's not even the full box set (nothing beyond the minis) and is missing that one tyranid terrain bit that I think was a spore mine node? The minis are out dated and it's hard for me to justify spending more than $100 on something like that.
@GloriousGrunt
7 ай бұрын
NZD price is $297 lol what the hell are they smoking at GW HQ
@dicedoom7162
7 ай бұрын
Its overpriced, no missions included. I started with this set, its charming to me. But it was priced 40 euros back then. Dont buy
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