What's your take on the Volkswagen ID.2? A nostalgic return or a missed chance for innovation? Share your thoughts below! 👇
@rcajavus8141
9 ай бұрын
As you said, too little too late, and almost a year after e-c3 and market is already lowering prices. there are second hand mg4 base for 23k euros and e corsa and peugeot e208 for 17k euros. vw has become pretencious brand and cant be further from "peoples car" with their whole ID. bullsh... i would love to buy china made ev but they are still expensive for compromises they offer, that DSFK Seres 3 is 40k euro brand new in Croatia and Seres literally means "you are tanking a dump" or " you are talking shit" :D comedy all around, fake capitalism, fake products, fake "market needs"... we need basic transportation that 2CV and Renault4 were 50 years ago, and affordable and simple end of discussion :)
@siasek
9 ай бұрын
Exactly, we need those EVs that the brands are promising. I mean, I guess there's a reason they're scared to actually make them 🔧🙄 I've been looking at used Megane e-Techs a lot lately and the prices keep getting better and better. I think they'll be even cheaper after the new year, with minimal compromises. I'm just ready for proper infotainment in my car 😱
@ytdood
9 ай бұрын
It's weird to see this in the context of VW acknowledging that they're not competitive and that they need to slash a lot of personnel in order to reduce costs. One one side, it's good that they're listening to customer feedback, but in the other they are so engulfed in debt that it's bonkers - $202.84 B Yes, BILLIONS, let that sink in. They might never get to be profitable ever again, and they will surely have to get loads of external support. But in all fairness, none of that matters to the end consumer. And this ID2 (they should keep the name really, it has a nice ring to it!) will be a good option IF they can keep it below 25k. Although I have reservations there as well.
@siasek
9 ай бұрын
I looked at the financials and the debt is huge, but they are only spending 2.2% of the money servicing it so far and they are very profitable, EBITDA approx €18bn 2021, €16bn 2020. I'm a fan of ID.2 as well, but 2025 is so late in my opinion... 😑
@ytdood
9 ай бұрын
@@siasek well, remember, we've been spoilt with options so our expectations are growing much quicker recently. I would also say 2025 is late, but a lot of people need more reassurance that the cost of owning an EV (overall) is lower than an equivalent combustion and this would also give the infrastructure some time to improve which to me is the weakest part of an EV these days, specially if you cannot charge at home. VW is simply too large for the German government to let it fail, I would say, and it's better to take their time and build a good car rather than rush another fiasco like the early ID3's. And we'll have the eC3 contender next year so the gap will be filled. PS: I've seen the news about the Prague incident, horrible thing to hear, hope it didn't affect too many people in the end...
@siasek
9 ай бұрын
That's true, for example my infotainment requirements have tightened up tremendously over the last year. Fortunately, here in the Czech Republic the infrastructure is good so far - I can charge in a public garage on a public AC charger even if not directly in my parking space. And if I'm going somewhere, I mostly charge at the Lidl chain of stores, where the cheapest DC 50 kW charging is currently (0,24 GBP/kWh) and it's always been free so far. I see it the same way with VW, although the German government seems to be running out of money, so time will tell 🫤 As far as the incident here in Prague, it was just a short drive from me, just over the bridge and actually the first incident of this scale in the Czech Republic - hopefully it will also be the last. All in all an unstable 24 year old killed 14 people at school, 2 in the woods the week before (random victims in a random forest) and his father at home before he left for school. If the police had been a bit luckier they would have caught him in time, unfortunately he chose a different school building to attack in the end than where he was due to give a lecture at the time, that's where the police (logically) intervened first. Missed about 10 minutes of extra time. The police were on the scene within 4 minutes and the SWAT team within 12 minutes. It was definitely a shock for me and for Czech as a whole. I don't personally know anyone who was affected, but am keeping the victims' families in my thoughts, can't imagine getting such news.
@ytdood
9 ай бұрын
@@siasek I'm glad you're okay then and that this was over soon! Tragic events like these tend to have a lasting effect. Although not a shooting incident, in Romania there was a fire incident in a nightclub where over 65 people ended up dying on the spot or later, all on account of the club running illegally without a fire permit. I'm well accustomed to corruption and "bad" things happening, but I knew some of the ones who died... Happy (remaining) holidays and a wonderful new year to you, and to many more interesting videos from you :)
@siasek
9 ай бұрын
I'm sorry to hear that, my condolences. That feeling of helplessness that these situations can make us feel is hard to swallow. Well, it is the New Year by now and hopefully we can look forward to a peaceful year. Thank you so much for the well wishes, I wish you a wonderful new year as well and lots of success and happiness for the year ahead! 😊
@dainispozins4172
9 ай бұрын
Definitely too little too late...! This car should have been for sale by now...VW completely missed the start of EV technology in the affordable car market. Chinese automaker BYD and others will be able to push VW out of the affordable car market almost completely unhindered for the next two years...
@siasek
9 ай бұрын
I totally agree, yet it should have been very clear to them after the Citigo iV and VW e-UP immmediately sold out! I don't understand what they're doing over there
@davidpearn5925
9 ай бұрын
Just think how lucky VW is that Elon Musk prioritised culture wars over product expansion.
@siasek
9 ай бұрын
😆 well I guess it could theoretically play to their advantage, but they seem hesitant to actually do something about it!
@davidpearn5925
9 ай бұрын
@@siasek with a ‘cluttered’ board like VAG’s it’s amazing that it’s taken this long to get into trouble.
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