Awesome race. This tournament is going to be mind-blowing and very ambitious. 🙂
@bent_rod_racing2720
4 ай бұрын
Awesome Racing! Nail biting at the End, The Racing Chart looks like a Attack Map! Well Planned and a Joy watching it executed for Top Notch Races! Thank you Marcus!
@mcrpan13
4 ай бұрын
Great so far! Can't wait to see all these races across all the different tracks!!
@g-forceracing_27
4 ай бұрын
Very cool! I’m excited to watch this over all those tracks! Good work Marcus!!
@jamesbasey8023
4 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the racing to begin! Great job Marcus!! Keep up all the great work bud.
@MarcusFiregone
4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@FeralPatrick
4 ай бұрын
Awesome that you're expanding the tourney for us losers. :)
@MarcusFiregone
4 ай бұрын
🤣
@MarcusFiregone
4 ай бұрын
Like I said, I got a lot of really good cars this year. I eliminated a bunch of cars based on lap time but then in the 4 car races, some of the slower cars actually did better. And the 16 cars eliminated from the 12 Groups of 4 where mostly all very tight battles.
@Chris_Hood
4 ай бұрын
Had the race ended on the 4th lap in a four way tie, that would be the fourth time I have seen such an improbable result occur. Marcus, you strike me as a fellow who is comfortable with math, have you ever calculated the odds of this taking place? I've asked some smart people but there's no real consensus, ranging from 1 in 256 chance to 1 in 331,776 races of this format ending up tied across the field. Please add your insights to the question, and thanks in advance Superb outline of the process we'll follow in the rest of IDRL 2.0 including the bracket of eliminated drivers--again, masterful organisation skills 👍
@MarcusFiregone
4 ай бұрын
Thanks, and let me ponder that question. Off the top of my head it is not a simple math problem. I have a degree in Physics. My track is biased to the inside lane as you have probably noticed. This works fine when I'm doing my GRID-6 formation because the advantage goes to the lead car. You either have to catch the lead car or the lead car has to make a mistake. The interesting thing is that the 2nd and 3rd place cars typically keep changing positions due to this advantage. So keeps things moving behind the lead car. This is really the first time I'm doing the more typical 4 car rotational start. I'm not really a fan of this format because it really has nothing to do with real-world racing. Anyway, for my track, typically the two cars in the inside lane will pass the two cars in the outside lane through the start and individual lanes before it opens up, as was the case for like the first 6 laps of this race. Now the factors are too numerous to calculate for this to not happen. First of all, the cars are different in shape, size, weight, surface area (in particular those parts that interact with the track and other cars). Also, as the car travels down the track it's interactions are almost random in nature. A single car going down the track multiple times will not yield the exact same results (even in the unlikely event that the times match). Now factor in 4 cars each going down with almost infinite possibilities, interacting with the other 3 cars. Not just physically, but as the cars move down the track the track itself is affected with vibrations and some movement. So, the most likely outcome given identical cars (or at least equally competitive cars) is a four way tie after the 4th and 8th run. however, the cars are not identical, and there are infinite possibilities during each car's run. This in turn makes it unlikely that the cars will tie after the 4th and 8th run. It is even more unlikely that they will tie after 8 runs, which is why I extended this elimination round to 8 runs. The cars are so evenly competitive that it would be more difficult to eliminate one of the 4 cars fairly after just 4 runs. I think it is this randomness that makes Diecast Racing so fascinating. And at the same time it isn't just random, quality of car and track is a huge factor. What am I saying, it all depends on the drivers 🙂
@MarcusFiregone
4 ай бұрын
Ok, here you go ... completely theoretical, assuming all 4 cars are equal (i.e.: marbles), don't interact and running down equal track and there are no DNFs. Further, with 5 points for 1st, 3 points for 2nd, 2 points for 3rd, and 1 point for 4th (and no DNFs), the "marbles" must finish 5 once and a combination of 2nd, 3rd and 4th the remaining times. That would give you a 1 in 1152 chance of a 4-way tie at the end of 4 laps. That is 4 marbles that can finish in 1 of 4 positions on the 1st lap, 2nd lap, 3rd lap, and 4th lap (4! x 4! x 4! x 4! = 331,776). We want them to finish in 1 of 4 positions on the 1st lap, 1 of 3 positions on the 2nd lap, and 1 of 2 positions on the 3rd lap, which only leaves us with one desired outcome for the 4th lap. That works out to (4! x 3! x 2! x 1! = 288). Which works out to 1 in 1152 or a 0.08% chance.
@MarcusFiregone
4 ай бұрын
Scientifically, through experimentation we ran 4 Groups of car 12 times. Only today's race yielded a 4-way tie after 4 laps. That is a 1 in 12 (or 8.3%) chance.
@MarcusFiregone
4 ай бұрын
That 331,776 number you have is the number of combinations for 4 cars over 4 laps with 4 possible finishes ... 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th. Again, that does not take into account DNFs. But it is not 1 in 331,776 because that would just be one possible combination that ends in a 4-way tie. There are actually 288 combinations that end in a 4-way tie out of that 331,776. So you divide 331,776 by 288 to get 1 in 1,152.
@Chris_Hood
4 ай бұрын
@@MarcusFiregone As I've seen four instances myself of this phenomenon, if you'll include this episode up to the end of the 4th lap as one such, your 1 in 1,152 is passing the "gut check" far more than 1 in 331,776 Thanks!!
@TalkingGIJoe
4 ай бұрын
not much passing as evidenced by the commonality in the score sheet... will be interesting to see all the races together and see if that is the norm or if this is an aberation... interesting!
@MarcusFiregone
4 ай бұрын
This was the most predicable group. I don't usually do 4 car rotational, I usually do my own GRID-6 format. But this track has a big inside lane advantage such that the first two cars in the inside lane usually pull ahead of the two cars in the outside lane. I've been looking in replacing a section of the track that includes that switch back to make it more even and reduce crashes in that section as well.
@bigalscustomdiecast2504
4 ай бұрын
Nooooo!
@andrewsmith9162
4 ай бұрын
A looser bracket winner taking out the grand final would be awesome 🐀 🐁 🐭
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