One interesting thing to note is that it took over 200 "sessions" with Surge to get her to the personality she has with her hating Sonic and wanting to destroy him, but it only took 33 "sessions" with Kit to have him fully devoted to Surge. I wonder if that has to do with their personalities beforehand or if maybe Surge's personality was meant to be more complex, or it could it possibly be because Kit is, supposedly, also enhanced with Tails' DNA and therefore needed fewer sessions to be a support?
@StarrChild.
2 жыл бұрын
We're starting to really see how terrifying Kit is. He follows Surge's orders without question or thought. And his blank stare to Starline as well as his casual and non nervous talking when they spoke about what to do with Starline is so eerie. I wouldn't be surprised if Kit becomes a true psychotic villain and Surge has to try stop him
@InfiniteThePhantomJackal
2 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it. I mean, the plan was even HIS idea as HE'S the one who came up with it, Surge just happened to like it and thus agrees with the plan.
@metalmk8714
2 жыл бұрын
i think, after watching the logs of starline, he is now questioning if he really admire Surge.
@seich-of-lacan-getter514
2 жыл бұрын
If that last part happens I hope its q glitch in his programming and Surge finally establishes a true sibling bond
@dantemustdie00
2 жыл бұрын
The Tails DNA kicking in at full sinister force.
@sylver_sonic7726
2 жыл бұрын
@Seich-Of-Lacan-Getter for me it looks like they actually care for each other, and their relationship is slowly improving as the story progresses
@gamerblaster2102
2 жыл бұрын
I like how this went. Starline tries to manipulate his creations and now they are manipulating him. The man just doesn't learn his lesson, does he?
@justinukah7441
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he keeps saying he’ll be Eggman’s superior, but in actuality he’s making the same mistake as him; being fixated on one individual to prove his method are better. And look where that got him!
@gamerblaster2102
2 жыл бұрын
@@justinukah7441 Exactly. He restored Eggman's memories with the help of Metal Sonic, idolised him so much and took after him, pulled swords on him by bringing in the Zeti behind his back (which he failed miserably to try to control) and then tried to bail on him after a disagreement on how to destroy the Metal Virus, which led to Eggman discarding him. Problem 2 - breaks the other villains out of prison, tries to manipulate them and use them to later pull swords on them, which backfired and they caught on his plans, which almost got him killed. Now, the children he kidnapped and turned into cyborgs that he thought he could manipulate now got him on the ropes. Starline thinks he can underestimate everyone and the situations like they are nothing, which is why he constantly gets into the troubles he gets in. The way his plans go shows that he will never be Eggman's superior. Like Zavok said, the stuff makes him exactly like Eggman. What's funny is he talks about wanting to be Eggman's superior, but he wants to take him back. Starline will never learn from anything with his methodology.
@justinukah7441
2 жыл бұрын
@@gamerblaster2102 Which in turn will never allow him to break the Sonic Cycle. Now because of his screwups(and him stupidly making those exposition video diaries), his enforcers are now planning to pull swords on HIM; swearing to end all those directly & indirectly responsible for their lack of a past
@gamerblaster2102
2 жыл бұрын
@@justinukah7441 Exactly. They are like that because of him basically sealing away their pasts. He sure ruins everything. Just like how all the other villains are threats he has to avoid, he now has another threat to deal with in the future, even though they will go after everyone (no exceptions). Another thing is he talks about how Eggman has the same "Status Quo" as Sonic, yet he repeats the same mistakes over and over and over and over. As much as he talks about everyone having "Status Quos", he has one himself.
@gearthehuman2115
2 жыл бұрын
@@gamerblaster2102 agreed, Starline claimed that he have learned everything from the Bad Guys mini series but he actually don't. what happen on this comic is more of a combination between the Bad Guys series and issue 25. look at him, first he created Surge and Kit as his lackeys but then they turned against him after they found the truth just like in issue 25 where the Zeti attack him afterwards, and then they're playing him in his own game just like in the Bad Guys where Zavok and Mimic are tricking him on his own plan
@ABg603
2 жыл бұрын
I find it strange that no one is mentioning the fact that Surge and Kirt's families are probably very worried about the sudden disappearance of their children. assuming they were kidnapped and not created by starline
@davidtveten4215
2 жыл бұрын
Dang, watching Surge and Kit become who they are now was crazy. Surged looked completely different at first. And now their plan to destroy everything directly and indirectly responsible for what happened to them? Amazing. Can't wait to see where this goes.
@WhiteFireTheDragon
2 жыл бұрын
They are going to be epic villains.
@davidtveten4215
2 жыл бұрын
@@WhiteFireTheDragon oh absolutely. Terrifying as well. A true dark version of Sonic and Tails.
@gearthehuman2115
2 жыл бұрын
yeah, thanks alot, Starline😡😡😡
@76o90
Жыл бұрын
I feel really bad for them. Imagine getting kidnapped and brainwashed into completely forgetting about your past and your true self and being a replica of someone else, then being made to do endless dangerous and risky test runs. Must be enough trauma for them :,(
@makaylafloyd8156
2 жыл бұрын
I usually hate evil versions of heroes. But this? This I can get behind. They're not evil versions because they're in a different universe that swaps their morality for no reason. I was kinda wanting them to become heroes, but this is *much* better. They're copies, not alternate versions of Sonic and Tails. They hate that they're copies and don't know who they used to be. So, they decide to destroy the entire system they were created to uphold. *This* is how you make a morality swap make sense. This is how I can be satisfied in a morality swap.
@leonglitch
2 жыл бұрын
They MIGHT still become heroes but yeah i agree with you
@dantemustdie00
2 жыл бұрын
@@leonglitch Theirs possabilities that they may become legit heroes (likely competing with Sonic and Tails to prove their the better heroes)
@Snaaaaap
2 жыл бұрын
I'd really hope for them to be villains or villains that pretend to be heroes to get under sonic and tails skin. Or be chaotic neutral.
@joshuabass2904
2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how they're just agreeing and kit's not stuttering anymore. They are finally almost in perfect sync.
@ARTSONICFAN990
2 жыл бұрын
Kit at 9:46: *Scratches Starline's logo.* Surge: Atta boy, little bro. Atta boy.
@loversiren
2 жыл бұрын
Surge and Kit instantly became my favorite characters and favorite relationship in Sonic media overall, they really feel like nothing else we've seen from the series. Chills when Surge said "No more villains, no more heroes" and "If we don't get a past, they don't get a future", she's on her guillotine revolution bullshit and I love it
@kamarismith9422
2 жыл бұрын
Man, Ian wasn't joking when he said this issue was going to be dark.
@donisamwentete5079
2 жыл бұрын
Jinx it
@DarthMolgy
2 жыл бұрын
I was NOT expecting them to go in this direction. Turning Surge and Kit into anti-villains with the goal of destroying both the heroes and the villains is genius. I also like how the ending of this issue parallels that of the first issue - instead of Starline hypnotizing and manipulating them into thinking they agreed to his plan, they hypnotized and manipulated HIM to think they were onboard with the plan when in reality he just became a part of their own secret, larger plan.
@johnathonturner2279
2 жыл бұрын
They aren't anti-villains though. That would imply they still have heroic or atleast neutral goals, which isn't quite the case if they try to take out the heroes.
@DarthMolgy
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnathonturner2279 they also try to take out the villains, so...
@johnathonturner2279
2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't mean they have noble motives. They barely qualify for neutral.
@DarthMolgy
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnathonturner2279 They oppose both the Good and the Evil. Sounds somewhat Neutral to me.
@DestroyerJamie
2 жыл бұрын
So is Eggman neutral when Black Doom is invading Earth? Trying to keep his hold on the world or when Chaos is threating to destroy it. These moments don't magically change him or his goals, in the end helping the heroes/stopping the bigger villain makes him no less evil or no more good, he can't rule the world if it's destroyed because he's still an evil villain. Surge and Kit taking out both sides doesn't make them neutral that'd be if they wanted no part in taking sides and wanted to be left to their own devices. Their goal of killing everyone regardless of their side is evil, don't act like morality is some set of scales and go "killing sonic and all the heroes=Killing Eggman" and it balances out. Killing anyone is an evil act, there's also plenty more heroes than villains. At the end of the day, their goals and motives doesn't make them good or neutral, they're clearly evil.
@Da_Boeh7312
2 жыл бұрын
After reading this issue, I realized that Surge and Shadow really have a lot in common: - Both made from Organic organisms (Shadow's creation being slightly more complex as he wasn't taken from a pre-existing Mobian, but rather constructed from scratch, and as mentioned in the issue, Surge is literally a Mobian with robotic enhancements throughout her mostly organic body) - Memory loss (Both stemming from the enhancements and tweaks they received during their creation, though Starline contributes more to Surge's than the enhancements themself) - An overwhelming need to just make Sonic's life more miserable than it is at times - Quick-tempered, hot-headed, and stubborn as all heck, yet despite all of these similarities, if the two were to ever clash, that'd be a fight I'd be more than happy to see, because they would NOT get along
@knju1monsterhunt656
2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that they were like Dr. Gero and Androids 17 and 18 from Dragon Ball Z, but with more self-awareness.
@DarthMolgy
2 жыл бұрын
With the final battle of the Road to Issue #50 being a three way fight between Surge, Sonic and Metal Sonic, I wouldn't be surprised if Shadow also tagged along.
@gearthehuman2115
2 жыл бұрын
true, except for the memory loss thing. Surge and kit are already have no memory of their past once they're completed while Shadow have lost his memories after he help Sonic
@ashooaway
2 жыл бұрын
There will easily be a storyline about Surge & Shadow. Eventually the titular black blur will team up with Surge only then to realise how much of an agressive ass he's been in the IDW run & set him to the Shadow most of us want to see. I can only hope
@valentinkambushev4968
2 жыл бұрын
@@ashooaway SEGA: Yeah I don't think so......
@adrianleonce455
2 жыл бұрын
I know Starline was inspired by Eggman, but I didn't expect him to be this heartless😨. Kidnapping (or tricking) 2 citizens, overwritting their entire identity, forcing enhancements onto them and resetting their minds is just messed up. I think Starline might rival Eggman when it comes to cruelty.
@griffinhamm7783
2 жыл бұрын
Not just citizens, kids on top of that
@AMVRadio
2 жыл бұрын
It’s like zavok said, starline is more like eggman than he is willing to admit.
@KavinCatastrophe
2 жыл бұрын
It heavily implied that Starline Created them. They were not kidnapped but hey they could change it down the line.
@xanmoas
2 жыл бұрын
@@KavinCatastrophe It's weird. His plan was to put cyborg tech into animals but i guess the one thing he couldn't get rid of if he wanted free willed creations was the brain hence why he needed mind control. So it's heavily implied they were once people that were kidnapped but he also created their cybernetic bodies and appentally used zombot nano tech to give them the ability to heal so THEY ARE ALSO PART ZOMBOT. He may as well have created living cyborg zombies that he can control like puppets. but their past will remain a secret for now.
@videogollumer
2 жыл бұрын
@@xanmoas The fact that their are no records of their past supports both theories equally. Either he didn't make records of their past lives OR their past lives don't exist. Surge only inferred that they had past lives; there's still not enough evidence to confirm it. Also, if he didn't create them, why did he need Tails' DNA? Furthermore, why is there a picture of Shadow, an artificial lifeform himself, included in the video? At this point, both theories are still up in the air; but personally, I'm with Kavin.
@mysteriousgirl9211
2 жыл бұрын
2:48 An innocent girl repeating the mantra her new master implements into her. 3:03 A desire to destroy Sonic, born from instilled anger and hatred, changes her... in more ways than one. 3:18 Out of a innocent girl's demise and destruction... Surge the Tenrec was born.
@valentinkambushev4968
2 жыл бұрын
This made me think what if Surge was taken from an orphanage and through the tube Starline made her grow up rapidly while also brainwashed her?
@hydrocityshark
2 жыл бұрын
@@valentinkambushev4968 I still think that Starline IS her father without a mother, he just isn’t a good one.
@videogollumer
2 жыл бұрын
I'm still holding to the theory that they're artificial lifeforms. Surge only inferred that they had past lives, but the fact that there is no record of them in Starline's files equally supports both theories. However, if he didn't make them, then what did he need Tails DNA for and why bring up Shadow at all? So far, there is still not enough evidence to prove if Surge is right or wrong, but them being artificial lifeforms still holds more weight, in my opinion.
@makaylafloyd8156
2 жыл бұрын
Oo! I really like this take! I hadn't thought of that
@videogollumer
2 жыл бұрын
@@makaylafloyd8156 Thanks.
@makaylafloyd8156
2 жыл бұрын
@@videogollumer No prob 😁
@markmorales7958
2 жыл бұрын
5:44 Remember in one of the routes in the Shadow the Hedgehog Video Game when Eggman tried to psych Shadow out by telling him that "he has no past' and it was stupid in many levels? This moment in idw, THIS (Thank you Norckle Luem for this typo error) is HOW you do that trope feel believable and devastating... also (7:16) I'm pretty sure thats an unintentional "No More Heroes" reference... And just like Dr. Gero from DBZ, his artificial humans (Cyborgs) rebel against their obsessed creator and plan on doing whatever they want to the world around them, even if it leads to absolute chaos...
@cutecoffee0173
2 жыл бұрын
THIS
@hydrocityshark
2 жыл бұрын
Even if I doubt that Surge and Kit had previous lives prior to their creations, I like the idea of the sinister siblings believing that they did. It provides so many directions for these two to go in future stories.
@cutecoffee0173
2 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@videogollumer
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Surge only made an inference, not a confirmation. Though it could go either way, Starline needed Tails DNA for something; and their has to be a reason for Shadow being brought up.
@valentinkambushev4968
2 жыл бұрын
@@videogollumer maybe Starline looked up to the way Gerald created Shadow for Surge and Kit. Let's hope he did better because Shadow is a little "undercooked" (physically I mean).
@hydrocityshark
2 жыл бұрын
@@valentinkambushev4968 I wouldn’t say that being able to emit chaos energy blasts and having inhibitors makes Shadow “undercooked.” A better term would be “unstable”
@valentinkambushev4968
2 жыл бұрын
@@hydrocityshark but I doubt he was meant to be unstable, which means Gerald kind of undercooked him.
@WhiteFireTheDragon
2 жыл бұрын
I've already mentioned how Surge is like Scourge, but now Kit is acting more like Miles.
@Zero.The.Hedgehog
2 жыл бұрын
Whos miles ?
@hm-zu8uv
2 жыл бұрын
@@Zero.The.Hedgehog He's talking about Tails or anti-tails in archie comics
@Zero.The.Hedgehog
2 жыл бұрын
@@hm-zu8uv oh I thought it was miles per hour
@WhiteFireTheDragon
2 жыл бұрын
@ChissOmeegah By "bouncing" do you mean talking or spin dashing?
@HJSDGCE
2 жыл бұрын
@@Zero.The.Hedgehog that's actually Tails full name. Miles Prower. Sonic just calls him Tails as a nickname but occasionally calls him Miles.
@landonvandop1875
2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Starline, you take the cake for being the worst dirtbag in this universe. He's up there with Eggman, and that's after Eggman started a zombie pandemic. As things stand right now, Starline took two teenagers and brainwashed them into being his puppets, emotionally traumatizing them, and robbing them of whatever life they had before that time. This just sickens me.
@hydrocityshark
2 жыл бұрын
Or creating them from scratch and using abusive classical conditioning to shape their personalities. Remember, Surge’s conclusion was only an inference.
@tessafroese992
2 жыл бұрын
Kit is a kid and surge is the teenager.
@videogollumer
2 жыл бұрын
The Metal Virus outbreak was still worse. It did all of that and was lethal to boot; and it was on a GLOBAL scale. It doesn't matter that the heroes managed to get rid of it; much more was at stake. Plus, it happened on top of a war, which Eggman also caused, and we KNOW he killed people during it! Furthermore, he was primarily motivated by his hatred of Sonic! Not that it will ever happen, but Eggman deserves to be beheaded for all of that!
@landonvandop1875
2 жыл бұрын
@@videogollumer I'd prefer to see Eggman get stoned, and not in the drug fueled way.
@videogollumer
2 жыл бұрын
@@landonvandop1875 Yeah, I know; throw rocks at him until he's bombarded to death. Honestly, at this point, I'd be glad just to see him taking a beating from Amy with her hammer in this comic!
@kygo-mashyt7735
2 жыл бұрын
Once manipulated rats, now under control, deviously planning bad guys! These two are awesome! And this issue was fantastic!
@jamarcusdavis4023
2 жыл бұрын
Ian wasn't kidding when he said this would get dark. This is probably one of the darkest things I've seen in a Sonic story.
@EddyBinxEB
2 жыл бұрын
"We burn it all down" "if we don't get a past, they don't get a future" Silver: 👁️👄👁️
@valentinkambushev4968
2 жыл бұрын
Silver: And I took that personally.
@ninjanate5018
2 жыл бұрын
DID SOMEBODY SAY “IT’S NO USE”?!
@Adir-Yosef
2 жыл бұрын
yes silver would be back again for the big ark a 3th time maybe surge will also murder a bunch of blaze's people getting her on board this mess
@applejuice4658
2 жыл бұрын
Are we gonna ignore how Surge's laying down pose is awfully similar to Peter griffins death pose?
@sylver_sonic7726
2 жыл бұрын
I cant ignore that
@UltimatePhantasm
2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap you're right
@redpineapplee700
2 жыл бұрын
This makes me wonder. Back at the avalanche at the Chateau, Starline attempted to kidnap Tails. What if he was originally going to turn Tails into a cyborg, but since it didn't work, he kidnapped whoever Kit was, and used Tails's DNA to make Kit smart as him?
@cherry_bomb8807
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was thinking of that to
@redpineapplee700
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I mean it wouldn't be the first time Tails has been turned into a Cyborg, (not internally however), and it'd strip Sonic of one of his closest supports and emotionally damage Sonic at the same time, as he'd go through the whole "I couldn't save him," arc again like in the Lost World, but way more developed.
@cherry_bomb8807
2 жыл бұрын
@@redpineapplee700 yes I like surge and kit but it would be interesting to see tails become a cyborg and rouge, what would you prefer?
@redpineapplee700
2 жыл бұрын
@@cherry_bomb8807 I would have loved to have seen Tails taken Kit's place. Call me cruel, but it'd make for a crazy storyline, especially if he'd been disguised.
@cherry_bomb8807
2 жыл бұрын
@@redpineapplee700 yeah it would be very good to read
@avenger3272
2 жыл бұрын
I'll admit, I like where these two are going with this. And it looks like the good doctor is getting a taste of his own medicine.
@mechasaurus
2 жыл бұрын
Moron keeps thinking he can reboot the saga, but he is only adding more pieces to the puzzle.
@alienwraithsandstone
2 жыл бұрын
Starline is one of the most disgusting villains I'd ever had the displeasure to see in print. Kit and Surge going full out revenge, though...that was amazing! I've read novels where those in similar situations cope with their being 'created' by attempting to find some peace in joining the heroes or reluctantly joining the heroes when their 'creator' ordered it. This is the first time I've ever seen a massive revenge scheme and I'm invested! Love these two and wish they'll find their peace and a good life.
@xeno8484
2 жыл бұрын
This was awesome but now I want to know who they were even more. I have a strong feeling that Kit is going to be a major villain later he’ll probably betray Surge and strike out on his own.
@alecjackman2655
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that could by a possibility since at 9:03 he looks like he’s completely lost his Timidness and maybe even a bit fed up with surge after she mentions that whatever is her opinion is also his. Also after Kit finds out that only reason he was even loyal to an abusive person such surge was because he was brainwashed to, I would kind of expect him to be questioning his life and ask the question of he wants.
@emilie8356
2 жыл бұрын
This is definitely the best issue of impostor syndrome so far. I love how they are building Surge’s personality and philosophy. Frustrated from not having a past and wanting to take future away from heroes and villains. And being a female character adds that little extra I love ❤️ also this girl is so bold! Best among us player lol
@TF2Fan101
2 жыл бұрын
Welp, Starline might not want to admit it, but he and Eggman do have one thing in common: Arrogance.
@thebloodedge284
2 жыл бұрын
6:08 kit: so you have choose dealth
@johnnygyro2295
2 жыл бұрын
4:58 Given Surge is going through a breakdown similar to him, the Shadow music is fitting. Also, Starline's dropped the ball again and Mobius is going to pay the price. He really is becoming more like Eggman...
@valentinkambushev4968
2 жыл бұрын
Mobius always pays the price.
@KavinCatastrophe
2 жыл бұрын
Narrator: It would seems as though Surge and Kit has Reversed the Players of this Game. Can our Heroes and Villains survive what these two Unstoppable Duo have in store or will the World Burn by their Hatred. Stay tune Next Time
@valentinkambushev4968
2 жыл бұрын
...on "Sonic Z"!
@hydrocityshark
2 жыл бұрын
@@valentinkambushev4968 Where did the Z come from?
@valentinkambushev4968
2 жыл бұрын
@@hydrocityshark because this is a different series than "Sonic X" I decided to call it "Sonic Z".
@Snaaaaap
2 жыл бұрын
Chaos Ring Z!
@algalax2
2 жыл бұрын
On the next Chaos Emerald Z!
@calebartboy7620
2 жыл бұрын
A really good issue, we got to learn about surge & kits origins but their past is still a mystery, it’s probably for the best because it makes them more unique in a way, that gives me a theory for issue 4 What if the end will lead into surge & Kit finally meeting sonic & tails & that’s when we go into IDW sonic issue 49 where they fight them now? I think it’s sounds cool
@leonglitch
2 жыл бұрын
I think issue 49 and imposter syndrome issue 4 will set up the fight and will ultimately happen in issue 50
@ArthurGhoul3555
2 жыл бұрын
well I hope this has something to do with the new Sonic game but maybe it doesn't,And when I say "something" I mean surge and kit.
@calebartboy7620
2 жыл бұрын
Sonic frontiers doesn’t seem to be focused around surge & Kit tho from what we know about the game so far so I don’t see them being in that BUT seeing how tangle and whisper got in sonic dash maybe we could see surge and Kit in that game
@ArthurGhoul3555
2 жыл бұрын
@@calebartboy7620 yes, from what i've seen it looks like Sonic will lose his memory something like that.
@videogollumer
2 жыл бұрын
@@leonglitch I agree; still, I'm still anxious for Issue 49. Sonic, Tails, and Belle are back together again; just the three of them, and the chance for the dramatic irony to be dispelled could hardly be higher. Belle is the only non-villain who knows that Metal Sonic was involved in Eggman getting his memory back; and Sonic and Tails are the only ones, besides Tangle, who know who reactivated Metal Sonic and released him into the world, allowing him to do that. It was them! Should these pieces of information be shared during this time, Belle will know that Sonic and Tails are partially responsible for the loss of her dad; where as Sonic and Tails will know that they are partially responsible for not only that, but for the return of Eggman and the Metal Virus by extension. Sonic shouldn't be able to deny anymore that he bungled in handling his two worse enemies, causing more harm than good; and if he doesn't, we know Tails won't stand for it.
@_adorabubble
2 жыл бұрын
it takes so many more sessions for surge's personality than kit's if you look at the session numbers, i think that's a neat detail
@_adorabubble
2 жыл бұрын
@a ddd who, kit? ye i guess that could explain his sudden change in personality when he realises what happened while surge stayed pretty much the same
@connorcook4888
2 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Surge and Kit. They’ve got a genuine motive for what they’re doing. They just learned that they’re just a couple of random cybernetic enhanced kids with no clue to who they really are. That’s just sad. 😢
@thebloodedge284
2 жыл бұрын
Look like kit is becoming more like the first drawing we saw him like.
@ninjanate5018
2 жыл бұрын
Surge and Kit are probably underestimating Sonic, Tails, & Eggman. Never mind the fact that Sonic and Tails have had far more experience, Eggman is still a very dangerous threat, even without his army. And don’t even get me started on Metal Sonic. These two are in for a hell of a battle next issue.
@ByteDWolf
2 жыл бұрын
If I were Surge and Kit, I would have done the smart thing and use Starline’s hypnosis glove to make him tell them what their lives were like before they became his test subjects.
@eslm-studios2996
2 жыл бұрын
I knew it! I knew Starline took two random Mobians and upgraded them in some way! The capsules, the enhancements, the lifeforms. Neither of them are possible to make in a short amount of time, not even Eggman's capable of giving genetic life. But then that raises the question... Could Starline have used some of Professor Gerald Robotnik's research at the same time? After all, Shadow's similar to Surge & Kit, and if he was created to be the Ultimate Lifeform and the original turned out to be the Biolizard, could Professor Robotnik have done something similar during Shadow's creation? I'm probably diving too deep into this idea, but it is quite interesting. Either way, the fact that Starline took two innocent civilians and changed them into killing machines is low even for him. Sure, Eggman roboticized people, but even he wouldn't go this far.
@Lyger101
2 жыл бұрын
I am gonna call it that Dr Starline had already anticipated the hypnosis device being used on him and developed a counter-measure. For now, he is gonna play along but I won't be surprised if he turns this around on Surge and Kit.
@93SuperSonic
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Surge and Kit turned the tables on Starline, but I don't think they need to kill all the heroes and Eggman. Sounds like they need to meet Shadow in the future...
@uacrimsonbolt
2 жыл бұрын
…That was not the direction I was expecting this mini-series to go. My interest is caught like a fly in a bear trap lathered in honey.
@jarrodkopf6813
2 жыл бұрын
6:47 I think Surge can give Deadpool a run for his money.
@algalax2
2 жыл бұрын
*Ahem* Wolverine
@jarrodkopf6813
2 жыл бұрын
@@algalax2 Surge not only has fast regeneration, but also super speed and power.
@bloodraven432
2 жыл бұрын
While I’m glad they’ve realized what Starline is doing to them and aren’t immediately going to be good guys, I’m not a big fan of their ‘screw everyone’ plan.
@cutecoffee0173
2 жыл бұрын
Neither am I. Kinda hope they reconsider their decision at some point
@adrianleonce455
2 жыл бұрын
I'm on board with this direction. It's a nice change from the villains we already have. Most of them want to conquer the world and Mimic wants revenge on one hero. Surge and Kit basically want to see the world burn.
@stopmotionmangemantproduct1111
2 жыл бұрын
@@cutecoffee0173 ofc they will. This is possibly gonna lead into them.becoming anti heroes possibly
@InfiniteThePhantomJackal
2 жыл бұрын
@@cutecoffee0173 I suppose one aspect of it could be that they finally find out who they used to be. That, or learn to let go of that or something. After all, their whole plan stems from, in Surge's own words, "[they] don't get to have a past, so [everyone else] don't get to have a future"
@cutecoffee0173
2 жыл бұрын
@@InfiniteThePhantomJackal Though that’s a good motivation to come up with that plan (storytelling-wise), its biggest weakness is that they (not pretty sure about Kit) are getting carried away by their emotions, therefore they’re acting without thinking. Maybe that’ll be what makes them thought it through and retract, like you said
@alexthestarchild2555
2 жыл бұрын
I love how Starline thought he could control his own creations...boy was he wrong. The problem stems from his entry logs, and not knowing when to shut up and stroke his own ego. Now, we watch as his plan slowly falls apart piece, by piece. Whatever Surge and Kitsunami have planned, it's gonna be hug.
@jekecho-4983
2 жыл бұрын
Kit is literally a Living simp programmed to do anything for Surge... holy crap😂
@sylver_sonic7726
2 жыл бұрын
Kit best simp XD
@thecomicbookfan2018
2 жыл бұрын
Wow so basically that's the entire origin story of Surge and Kit of how did Dr.Starline created them! But I still feel bad for Kit he always suffering his pain by trying to help/support Surge🥺!
@comicfan1324
2 жыл бұрын
I gotta be honest I thought they were robots for the longest time. It’s nice to have that cleared that up.
@valentinkambushev4968
2 жыл бұрын
But now we have even more questions.
@thebloodedge284
2 жыл бұрын
4:15 kit's expression is meme material
@justinukah7441
2 жыл бұрын
Can’t say the same for these 6:09 6:55
@videogollumer
2 жыл бұрын
Ooh! Now Starline has someone playing Starscream to HIM! Too bad he's not a Megatron. 😏 Also, it seems as though Kit is finally becoming the "creepy child" he was implied to be on the covers of issue 1. 😬
@valentinkambushev4968
2 жыл бұрын
And on the concept art that shows him drowning someone with his tails.
@_Squashy
2 жыл бұрын
You know honestly if they were ever to become good or at least not hate everyone, I feel like the person that might teach them that is Shadow since he had to go though something similar to them with him not remembering his past
@Kemix0711
2 жыл бұрын
I seriously hope Kit is scratching the paint job on Starline’s chair instead of infecting it with the Metal Virus.
@adrianleonce455
2 жыл бұрын
Starline got rid of the resilient nature of the virus, so I don't think infections are going to happen again. It's now a safe cell for supplementing their enhacements.
@Kemix0711
2 жыл бұрын
@@adrianleonce455 I hear ya. It just looked metal virus-esque from the gray metal.
@ninjanate5018
2 жыл бұрын
Besides, The Metal Virus can’t infect inanimate objects.
@sponge7464
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a scratch
@lucianamilagrosandrada7579
2 жыл бұрын
Oh God. It's great. Honestamente me quedé con ganas de seguir leyendo aún más pero ahora habrá que esperar mínimo hasta el próximo mes
@Adir-Yosef
2 жыл бұрын
i wonder if sonic will be able to give them redemption like saying some of the sort of "you may have no past but you can make your own future"
@diegoyanez1868
2 жыл бұрын
The more Starline tries to be different than Eggman, the more he proves that he’s not that different from him.
@gearthehuman2115
2 жыл бұрын
and that thing will make him developed a "status quo" he mention everybody have.
@rileybullington2934
2 жыл бұрын
starline really needs to stop making these logs so easily accessible the dude just keeps getting screwed over by himself also great stuff for kit and surge i really hated seeing her cry like that pretty heavy stuff tbh
@Adir-Yosef
2 жыл бұрын
here is a fun detail i saw surge's and kit's eye used to have some kind of light in them, surge has a reflection kit's eyes often signaled happiness (when the time is right) but after the final panel of the spoilers this is gone surge has no light reflection in the eyes and kit's eye look either pissed or emotionless you can say they died from the inside
@sylver_sonic7726
2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes their eyes glow when they use their powers
@Adir-Yosef
2 жыл бұрын
@@sylver_sonic7726 i mean the natural glow the one you see in a happy person, not power glow or the death stare glow kit has every time he is using his powers
@GenesisMaster300
2 жыл бұрын
I want to see more of Surge wearing the Tri-Core glove. Plus, I love Starline and Surges' facial expressions.
@DragonBorne1991
2 жыл бұрын
2:48 Surge looks cute with her hair down...
@valentinkambushev4968
2 жыл бұрын
ikr.
@mysteriousgirl9211
2 жыл бұрын
And her eyes looked so innocent.
@SonicBoss1991
2 жыл бұрын
10/10 issue! Everything about it was incredible!
@dantemustdie00
2 жыл бұрын
2:50 She looks so cute OMG! Ugh I feel so sorry for these two tho as they were apparently kidnapped by Starline at some point and had their mind and bodies altered, But interesting they have a Weapon X like Healing Factor, their gonna be really hard to take down, I like that Starline done the exact opposite of Eggman who was obssessed with putting animal into his Robot army to power them, by instead turning animals into Bio Organic Weapons akin to the Dragon Ball Androids (technically Cyborgs) and Wolverine, Deadpool and other Weapon X mutants.
@dededeletethis9940
2 жыл бұрын
4:34 i would like to point out that surge’s body here is in a near perfect recreation of the stock family guy death pose
@lemint
2 жыл бұрын
finally someone notice it!
@nightwolf789
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this issue. Seeing those two being created was honestly disturbing yet something I wanted to see.
@jordanphipps6436
2 жыл бұрын
Like the music at 6:09 for the battle between the imposters vs starline. The fight itself is an short but instense exchange. If imposters lose they go right back to being puppets in starline's plan. If starline loses it will surely cost him his life. Overall its one big fight for control.
@skuffy4930
2 жыл бұрын
This took a menacing turn!
@KavinCatastrophe
2 жыл бұрын
I had a Feeling the Metal Virus play a small role in their durability. Despite it flaws I couldn’t deny the fact that the body definitely became more Stronger. Kind of reminds me of Reed Richards from Marvel letting the world get infected by the Zombie Virus because he thought it was the next stage of Human Evolution
@lynxfresh5214
2 жыл бұрын
Notice how it's the geniuses that make the worst decisions of them all?
@valentinkambushev4968
2 жыл бұрын
@@lynxfresh5214 that includes Tails too. Yes I am still bitter over him fiixing Metal Sonic!
@KavinCatastrophe
2 жыл бұрын
@@valentinkambushev4968 You should really watch Game Apologists take on the whole Sonic Story Arc because basically as he says it just a Writing thing. Sonic not going to Kill his Enemies and the Enemies cannot go to Jail because they have Plot Armor. I know it not realistic but you have complain about this for Months Now. I think it time to let this go.
@valentinkambushev4968
2 жыл бұрын
@@KavinCatastrophe I know it's because of the plot armor, but that's not what I am mad at. I am mad at Sonic for making those stupid decisions and for not learning a deam thing. Like letting Eggman go after the Metal virus and even the SEGA mandates can't excuse this !
@KavinCatastrophe
2 жыл бұрын
@@valentinkambushev4968 Well once again Eggman their Main Enemy. The entire Restoration is built just to Fight Him. And while the other villians are a threat Eggman resources will still trump anything Starline or the Deadly Six can produce. Sonic has realized what his decisions might do but is not going to change who he is and will still believe in chances. Maybe if Sega ever wanted a Brand New Main Villain Eggman might finally be a Good Guy helping us Fight it.
@dimondsafkage4620
2 жыл бұрын
- *IF I HAVE NO PAST, ALL I HAVE IS THIS* Omg, Surge has just referred to Shadow's phrase from SA2😶
@mysteriousgirl9211
2 жыл бұрын
I can only hope that Sega approves of the idea of Shadow discovering who Surge and Kit are, finding out what happened to them that made them turn out the way they are now and... sharing his past experiences with trauma and brainwashing. He also offers to help them get past their problems and work together to create a brighter future. And Sonic doesn't antagonise or mock Shadow during all this.
@Adir-Yosef
2 жыл бұрын
if this is truly used to develop shadow from the pitiful place he is now and remove those darn sega mandate maze i'm all in
@Snaaaaap
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think that shadow would care, but maybe.
@gearthehuman2115
2 жыл бұрын
let's hope so. btw, i'm agree with your idea, it'll developed Shadow's character from being edgy into understanding. and besides, he's the only expert for this kind of situation as he's having the same experience as they did.
@aidanhammans9337
2 жыл бұрын
Well,this sounds like a good enough explanation for how and why the bots would go haywire.
@blue4820
2 жыл бұрын
* holds hands near mouth, fingertips only touching * ....And so it begins.
@thegamingembassy1543
2 жыл бұрын
This was worse than I thought. Starline didn't just take away their human rights, he abused them.
@mysteriousgirl9211
2 жыл бұрын
Abusing people the same way (or similar to how) he was abused.
@thegamingembassy1543
2 жыл бұрын
@@mysteriousgirl9211 Wait...when was Starline abused? Course Eggman threw him away near the end of the Metal Virus Arc (and "ruffed him up" when he tried to kill Sonic), but he didn't put Starline through mental and physical abuse.
@mysteriousgirl9211
2 жыл бұрын
@@thegamingembassy1543 Eggman throttled Starline once, and constantly put him down.
@mysteriousgirl9211
2 жыл бұрын
"If we don't get a past, they don't get a future!" - Surge the Tenrec, 2022 Deker from Power Rangers Samurai lost his past to a tragic incident (becoming a Nighlok to save his life, thanks to Dahlia/Dayu), but he only wanted to lift his curse by dying at the hands of a Power Ranger.
@SuperJamz64
2 жыл бұрын
I must say, the Imposter Syndrome miniseries has been my favorite part of the Sonic IDW comics so far. Surge and Kit are such interesting characters. And Dr. Starline really is a monster. He might actually be more vile then Eggman.
@charismaentertainer1657
2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to be there, but it’s literally midnight at that time for me
@thebluewind5733
2 жыл бұрын
Manipulation can go a long way, especially when you get the wild card of how dark manipulation can be when the manipulated grow wise of one's plans. Looks like chaos and carnage is gonna kick into high gear next time!
@gearthehuman2115
2 жыл бұрын
what does that mean?
@charlottea.cavatica1696
2 жыл бұрын
Oh, they are so planning to double-cross Starline in the next issue, aren't they?
@catsareevil101
2 жыл бұрын
Oh this is wicked! So delightfully wicked!
@ZLongHead
2 жыл бұрын
Ayo, surge doing the family guy dead pose XD 4:35
@aliminator1310
2 жыл бұрын
O-O So, Surge and Kit were LIVING THE WHOLE TIME!?!?
@ajtheflame9180
2 жыл бұрын
Starline: your lives are irrelevant Also starline: makes vlog about breakfast
@valentinkambushev4968
2 жыл бұрын
THEIR lives are irrelevant, his isn't.
@Vivigreeny25
2 жыл бұрын
Okay. Um. Wow. Holy shit. This feels like fanfiction honestly. Not in a bad way. Quite the opposite, actually. It’s just the tone is so… dark. Especially the whole, “getting traumatized from an evil doctor who’s been wiping your memory over and over again, and now your going to betray him”. I love it. Also the fact that slowly Kit is becoming more hard and cold, and Surge is starting to be more visibly vulnerable but still volatile is just. Really cool and good writing UGH I love Imposter Syndrome.
@sylver_sonic7726
2 жыл бұрын
Love it too!
@EYYYYYJustin
2 жыл бұрын
Surge before brain damage is adorable. Surge after brain damage is also adorable but a different kind
@Benicthehedgehog
2 жыл бұрын
Well it is safe to say that Surge & Kit are Anti-Villains, since they want to destroy everything that includes both Heroes & villains. I feel like the only one that can even reach out to them at this point is Shadow.
@DarkerShadyRox._.07
2 жыл бұрын
This is such turning the events for everything they’ve been through the whole time that is complicated and stuff like that 🤔😧😲👏
@hunterhowey5393
2 жыл бұрын
Wow Starline is more messed up and twisted then I thought.
@Sansic8
2 жыл бұрын
I was kind of disappointed. She’s my favorite female character and now she’s decided to end everyone and everything just because she doesn’t know where she’s from. I’m hoping that once she meets Sonic, she can have some character development. I’m pretty excited though. Really pumped to see where it goes.
@LocalBreadCreature
2 жыл бұрын
4:34 love that they used the family guy death pose
@azariahspence8551
2 жыл бұрын
I knew Surge and Kit would betray him, but they're going after Sonic and Eggman too?! Oh, boy...
@carleta4445
2 жыл бұрын
Man. This is really getting interesting! I can't wait to see Kit and Surge are going to do in the next issue!
@valentinkambushev4968
2 жыл бұрын
And Starline thinks he is better than Eggman.......🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@christianandonandon3492
2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting of how some details of their character parallel to 18 and 17.
@jordanbrown5019
2 жыл бұрын
This mini series is starting to get better.
@quagsiiiiirrre7228
2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this to finally bite Starline in the butt and it's so satisfying. This is just like back when Eggman tried to control Chaos, The Deadly Six, Shadow, Dark Gaia...
@videogollumer
2 жыл бұрын
It's already happened to Starline with Eggman, the Deadly Six, the Skunk Brothers, Mimic, and an avalanche! Still, yeah, satisfying each time.
@algalax2
2 жыл бұрын
@@videogollumer Aw yeah! That avalanche… it felt good.
@gearthehuman2115
2 жыл бұрын
5:28 Surge: He makes a vlog over what he made for breakfast! Look harder! Kit: I-I-I did! it's n-n-not there! Surge: Why Not?! 5:35 Starline: Because it's irrelevant. Me: Bruh, dude, your diary videos you've been made is much more irrelevant.
@calebepaixao8398
2 жыл бұрын
Word of advice Starline: don't put to much information in your files! Or better yet, DON'T MAKE FILES AT ALL!
@skybee7975
2 жыл бұрын
Hay dos formas que termine esto la primera es que después de cumplir con el plan surge y kit mantengan prisionero a starline para más respuestas de su pasado o dos starline sabe que lo engañaron y los manipula y los vuelve a controlar
@jojodoe112
2 жыл бұрын
Excited for the climatic showdown!
@locomotivo4644
2 жыл бұрын
4:34 *Madmen really got Surge do a Family Guy "death" pose.* At this point Surge is the embodiment of chaotic Sonic memes. Lmao
@BlueJack222
2 жыл бұрын
Man that one line of dialogue really flew over my head apparently they were people before I thought they were creations of Starline made from the ground up
@amazaine8743
2 жыл бұрын
Ok so I was right, Surge and Kit are gonna try and kill everyone whos associated with Dr. Starline in any way, good or bad.
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