I read Shane Stanley's book in a day last week. My stomach was in knots at the descriptions of things that have gone wrong on independent films and I had anxiety for two hours afterward. Good book.
@LiveFreeWarrior
2 жыл бұрын
ahhhhhmazing! can’t wait to read and dive into it!
@ubermalice9589
2 жыл бұрын
great advice. I'm working on a book and I'm constantly walking the line between writing a quality story, being true to myself and a want to be accepted. it's a scary endeavor. I needed to hear this.
@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT
2 жыл бұрын
I’m working on a book as well and I’m doing it my way. Of course I am taking inspirations but I’m doing my own thing.
@ubermalice9589
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT That's great to hear, I'd love to check it out when you're done. As long as you're not copying me! Mine's something to do with AI mastering interstellar assassins by perfecting werewolves or some nonsense but in the "style" of Venture Brothers. Kinda campy and full of obscure references that say, "I listen to music and watch too much TV for decades". Oh and occasional sodomy, because... butt stuff. I think it would be considered horror.
@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT
2 жыл бұрын
@@ubermalice9589 mines a story about an amnesiac who wakes up in a world dominated by creatures born from infected flesh (think of The Thing or dead space) and devolves from a typical zombie apocalypse story into a Lovecraftian horror.
@ubermalice9589
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT Oh man, that sounds dope. Aye! Keep in touch, I definitely would like to read your story. Fingers crossed, we'll make reading a truly worthy and exciting endeavor again.
@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT
2 жыл бұрын
@@ubermalice9589 hope so :)
@Crimzon_Nova
2 жыл бұрын
I started developing anxiety and doubt over my art skills and doing what I wanted to do, but that was because I felt the pressure and demand of how the art industry and community is. I started with the rebel mentality until it started to fade. And yet here you are saying we ought to be rebels to trully succeed, even if it means getting on the bad side of other artist cuz you are not them. I appreciate this video, thx brother.
@katium9176
2 жыл бұрын
If we ended up being ourselves and rebel either way, then you could be right about that. We are not them, and that's the beauty of being an artist.
@NJGuy1973
2 жыл бұрын
When I hear people say a film is "problematic," it means it actually challenges people. It's not feel-good mush.
@uanime1
2 жыл бұрын
So you believe Wonder Woman 1984 is good because it challenges people over whether it's acceptable to use mind-controlled people as your sex toy.
@NJGuy1973
2 жыл бұрын
@@uanime1 WW 1984 isn't problematic. It's in bad taste. There's a difference.
@uanime1
2 жыл бұрын
@@NJGuy1973 "WW 1984 isn't problematic. It's in bad taste." Sounds like someone doesn't like how this movie challenges them. "There's a difference." Which is what?
@NJGuy1973
2 жыл бұрын
@@uanime1 There was a Supreme Court case about obscenity, and it established that for something to be considered obscene, the questions to ask are: Would an adult of average intelligence consider this to be appealing strictly to erotic interest? Does the work lack any serious political, artistic, scientific, or literary value? So the question is: did that scene in WW 1984 have any merit in relation to the film? Was it put there to add to the plot? Or was it just gratuitously problematic? Add: I get the feeling you had a problem with that scene. Am I right? I myself felt it wasn't necessary.
@ImportanJoe
2 жыл бұрын
It's sad that today's storytellers takes this advice too literally, by shitting on their established audience. People used to throw rocks and rotten food at bad performers. Should we go back to that?
@uanime1
2 жыл бұрын
Rian Johnson had the same ideology and ruined the Star Wars sequels because of it.
@stuntmusicgameshow311
2 жыл бұрын
That is why one needs to express their own voice using their own property…Rian probably has an interesting story, but not appropriate in the last chapters of someone else’s story…He could have considered speaking for the characters & fans. People would have loved it, and then supported him to write His story…
@ferrarriohh
2 жыл бұрын
Hey I loved the Last Jedi. The first opening 7-10min at least.
@AndroidCovenant
2 жыл бұрын
James Cameron was notorious for always going over budget for his movies.
@corporaterobotslave400
2 жыл бұрын
He's also a hot headed prima donna. But most legendary visionaries are. And you would be, too, if you were once married to an ice queen.
@takingitonedayatatime7851
2 жыл бұрын
Damn...I needed to hear this. Thank you.
@waynesanders1406
2 жыл бұрын
I also read Shane's book, I will read it again several times before I make my uber short action series. You can just tell by reading it that the experience written down in the book is not something you can ever learn in school, it's a trial and error account of what happens in the trade. Go get his book if you haven't already.
@edgarbleikur1929
2 жыл бұрын
Good words in hard times. Another pearler film courage. Howard and Grazer came to mind.
@viggomares
2 жыл бұрын
I needed to hear this today.
@nanohuratarh9529
2 жыл бұрын
Needed this desperately... Thanks film courage
@poiluparadis
2 жыл бұрын
Fearless > conformist
@truekaliban4674
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. This is why I always drive forty miles an hour, in the fast. lane, when on my way to an opening or wen delivering a painting.
@notfouad
2 жыл бұрын
I'm Palestinian so I think I've got a built in advantage when it comes to "pissing people off..." 😉
@notfouad
2 жыл бұрын
It's no secret that mainstream western media outlets have demonized and silenced any Palestinian artist who dares advocate for our basic human rights
@bluenoirpics
2 жыл бұрын
Shane sounds like it’s the early 80s outside the window or, better yet, somewhen a decade prior to that. Which is nice to hear, but…it’s freaking 2021 - on the “suits” calendar, at any rate. Of course, any true artist should follow their vision - they wouldn’t even qualify as such otherwise, would they? And the fact that everyone has a little “Paramount studio” in their pocket is really adding some options. But there is only one film-maker who emerged in the last two decades, got a chance to realize his vision, went for it without compromising, produced beautiful outcomes artistically, and - by some miracle, literally - managed to score a couple of incredible successes at the box-office at the same time. Shane certainly knows who that is, right? I’d venture to say that, realistically, any film-maker who would be after delivering a meaningful artistic utterance on a decent budget today without going broke as a result or sending the studio which chose to back them up down that road is going to have to pull off the same trick Coppola did in 1972 …
@thefutureapocalypse
2 жыл бұрын
I'm doing my part. I piss people off on regular basis. Even the comment section here.
@reeanimationgaming1034
2 жыл бұрын
No... You can get plenty of attention without pissing anyone off... Guys, don't believe in everything you hear on youtube
@sammywatokohom172
2 жыл бұрын
0:16 ahh that smug... Ahhhhhh. Yeah.
@huntybangz
2 жыл бұрын
Right 😂 like I literally don’t know who anybody on this channel is, how can they see themselves as authorities
@larrysolidarity1890
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@theonicommittee8402
2 жыл бұрын
Like this guy
@carmikereid
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone is a Rebel until the Cops show up.
@cbstevp
2 жыл бұрын
"If you screw up you are done. But if you are successful they'll take the credit for it but you'll work again." Love this quote. Every person entering the film business should read this and burn it into their brain cause this is how it works. A hit has a thousand parents but a failure is an orphaned child.
@andymassingham
2 жыл бұрын
To fully understand the implications and power of what Mr. Stanley is speaking of, one must go to the first renegades of American cinema; Chaplin and Griffith. Iconoclastic independents who forever bucked the system and wouldn’t compromise ever, even when Hollywood was in its infancy.
@Project_415
2 жыл бұрын
By the looks of the dislikes, this video is already being heard
@uanime1
2 жыл бұрын
And disagreed with for a good reason.
@stagename2
2 жыл бұрын
Robert Rodriguez!!
@ferrarriohh
2 жыл бұрын
I think what Shane’s saying isnt to be antagonistic at all. He’s saying to play the game, learn who you are working with, but *be fearlessly creative* and hold to your vision, not to capitulate.
@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT
2 жыл бұрын
This is why I love Zack Snyder as a filmmaker. He certainly isn’t the best but he certainly has talent. Talent that divides rather than unifies.
@uanime1
2 жыл бұрын
It's because he kept dividing people that he's no longer making movies for DC. They need to grow their fanbase, not shrink it.
@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT
2 жыл бұрын
@@uanime1 regardless he built a fan base who loves his movies. Sure it might have “shrunk” DC but you can’t deny that he has grown in recognition.
@uanime1
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT The fact that Warner Brothers had him replaced and were later sold to the Discovery Channel indicates his style may not have been what they needed.
@Skipray_Blastboat
2 жыл бұрын
No more of hipster hat man please.
@TopTierTealTippedSpears
2 жыл бұрын
Why not just watch something else? You're not obligated to click on these videos.
@killerwill
2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like he's proving his point
@Skipray_Blastboat
2 жыл бұрын
@@killerwill Lol, he spent a whole video to basically say. "Just do it!". His long winded generalizations that are actually super specific to a handful of creators are lame AF. I dont see this as very useful or revelatory information. All his videos on this channel are like this. Id love to hear from anyone else at this point.
@AndroidCovenant
2 жыл бұрын
He's talking about pissing off industry folk by being rebellious. What about pissing off "fans"? Ryan Johnson pissed off a lot of people with TLJ. I like TLJ BTW, and the post release drama was glorious to behold.
@Ruylopez778
2 жыл бұрын
No, you've got your focus in the wrong place. Lucas was the artist/rebel that didn't give a shit about the studios. Disney is the repugnant corporate machine, that bought the IP in an attempt to cash grab through nostalgia and dominate the market, and JJ & RJ were the people with zero ideas to inject into an IP they didn't make, rather than making their own content with authenticity, and they had to work within the box Disney gave them. That's why people like Marcia Lucas and Howard Kazanjian, who worked on the IP and *don't have a Disney NDA* can call it out as bullshit. By all means, go and look at the box office numbers; every saga movie opened higher than the one before - meaning fans were desperate to watch the next episode, until the sequels came along. Opening weekend: TFA 247m TLJ 220m TROS 177m OT: ANH 1.5m ESB 4m ROTJ 23m PT: TPM 64m AOTC 80m ROTS 108m And if you look at the original theatrical release (domestic), you'll see that the third movie ROTJ/ROTS made more than the second movie ESB/AOTC (respectively) and 80% or more of the original movie ANH/TPM (respectively). Whereas interest in the sequels dropped like a stone after TLJ, with TROS making less than TLJ, and only 50% of TFA. All the prequels were either top of the box office that year, a close second, or third (with more competition in the summer than the Disney movies). All the OT movies smashed the box office for the year. Where TROS was 7th, and marginal to even be in the top ten. Just a little context for you. I'm sure you can spin that into a positive, somehow...
@Ruylopez778
2 жыл бұрын
If you like soulless cash grabs by corporations that publicly insult their fan base, that's your look out, mate. Writing bait comments and then deleting replies is pretty childish, though. Looks like RJ sold out to Netflix, instead of working on his "Star Wars Trilogy", though, doesn't it?
@AndroidCovenant
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ruylopez778 Still pissed off. Still malding.
@AndroidCovenant
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ruylopez778 You're actually right. It was not nice of me to reply that way. I'm sorry. I like TLJ and you don't. But we can both agree they screwed up the trilogy.
@Ruylopez778
2 жыл бұрын
@@AndroidCovenant Better to care about something than sneer at others online. I see you have no counter argument.
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