"Not just family and friends, I mean real people" - Judster 2024
@theblockyrocker9060
5 ай бұрын
One thing not mentioned: don't rely on other bandmates. They WILL quit after 6 months. You'll schedule a show and they'll "be sick" that morning. The number of failed almost bands I've been in is staggering. Write/record the music yourself. Find some musicians AFTER your songs are starting to come out, jam with them, and see if they actually want this. If you have money, pay them, they will stick around a liitle bit longer.
@MortuusMachina
5 ай бұрын
Facts
@a-liminal
5 ай бұрын
Solid advice
@dethmedic52
5 ай бұрын
Yep why I started my own solo project, was getting too much creative material with no outlet so I just started my own.
@shinokugt
5 ай бұрын
This is why even (or especially) legitimately and significantly successful bands have at least 90% of the music written by only one person, MAYBE two, in the band. The rest are employees, and at best they're great coworkers. People glamorize and imagine a fiction where their favorite bands are always hanging out and BFFs, creating everything together.
@dethmedic52
5 ай бұрын
@@shinokugt yeah that is so rare to find these days. Maybe during the 70s an 80s that was more prominent but very few bands since then have members that actually get along like family
@mitchpattimusic
5 ай бұрын
Step 1: Put the guitar away. Step 2: Leave the guitar put away. Step 3: Do NOT get out the guitar. Step 4: You got the guitar out didn't you? Step 5: Fail.
@ExileTX
5 ай бұрын
The dark age of technology and self awareness
@TaxEvader420
5 ай бұрын
I really do hate the modern age of content, effective advice tho
@brianmurphy7561
5 ай бұрын
i feel like judy would make the best band manager
@somethingsaid9058
5 ай бұрын
I would pay so much money for that
@boblasauce2836
5 ай бұрын
@@somethingsaid9058 ?
@brianmurphy7561
5 ай бұрын
@@somethingsaid9058 i feel like the Hardcore scene would just frustrate him tho
@TitaniusAnglesmith
5 ай бұрын
@@brianmurphy7561 If you don't go insane while dealing with the hardcore scene you aren't mentally well
@brianmurphy7561
5 ай бұрын
@@TitaniusAnglesmith i mean it really depends on the region you’re in. the Virginia Beach/Richmond hating eachother thing is so confusing to me. was literally at a show where a huge fight broke out and the venue ended up getting shut down because of it. and then like 5 years later the entire establishment got shut down cuz they had a meth lab in the back. funniest part was they held church services there too.
@Nathan.Hancock
5 ай бұрын
Honestly this is a pretty good intro to content marketing for your personal brand/business in general, you're a wise one Uncle Judy!
@Liccarus
5 ай бұрын
which stage of the process is the one where i get canceled for false sexual assault allegations
@SchecterIsKING
5 ай бұрын
That's Stage 69. Don't worry, it's quite far off because women don't give a shit about you enough to even make up allegations for the first 68 stages. Just hope that when stage 69 does come around you've acquired some hush money or you're toast.
@cloudbloodmusic
5 ай бұрын
Start a hardcore ban- oh, you said false allegations lmao
@TPSOTT
5 ай бұрын
Then you made it, bro
@TPSOTT
5 ай бұрын
😆@@cloudbloodmusic
@Memu_
9 күн бұрын
That's well after getting big so don't worry you won't have to ever worry about that.
@mts12270
5 ай бұрын
Not dropping any names, but I knew someone who was in a big, famous band throughout the 80’s - 90’s.... his advice then applies as well today.... ‘it’s all luck and who you know....’
@hellolondonmusic
5 ай бұрын
Yes. This is why partying with other musicians is important.
@DireThorns
12 күн бұрын
From personal experience I have to disagree about your sentiments on live shows and "consistent releasing". I love your channel and a lot of what you say, however, the times when I was focusing on marketing strategies and algorithms were the times I was constantly frustrated about getting nowhere. Sure we gained about 10 subscribers a day, but we were still nobody. The gradual grind of playing shows around the country has worked wonders for our status as a band. Also, releasing a song every month is objectively a bad idea, it's like playing the same town every month, people lose interest, it loses its impact, people don't care when the next time is just in a month. Tour organisers don't wanna book social media bands, they wanna book gigging bands that have proven that they are effective performers. That said, at the same time, yea bands SUCK at marketing. We gotta be far more creative with how we do so, and I would love to see more videos on maybe examples of creative marketing strategies
@Real_Boye
10 күн бұрын
What do you think about busking? Is it worth it? What are some pros and cons?
@Guinn355Fan
5 ай бұрын
Uncle Judy’s Management Services has quite the ring to it.
@TheMightyYak
5 ай бұрын
Sounds like an escort service
@StingThorn
5 ай бұрын
jokes aside, i was planning to make a debut album as full album...... now it makes sense to release a single consistantly instead of EPs and Full albums
@a-liminal
4 ай бұрын
The biggest lie a musician can tell you is "you have to do this to do it right" But the truth is, the best music and songs are written by people who practice. Practice is key. Once you practice, you can literally do anything and everything you want. Fuck the popular concept that you have to release singles and albums to be relevant in a "music scene" Change the rules of the game. Write songs, but make sure you practice first.
@TheLukestudios
5 ай бұрын
I think the only one I don't agree with is the "don't play live at the start" point. Small gigs are a great way to make connections with other bands and locals who can help you out. Not everything is about what you have right now, connections will help you for future releases if you ever need some extra musicians for a recording or even just some personal advice! Plus, helps you out with "You have to play great when you play live"
@DanAddison
5 ай бұрын
Also those two or three acts that you meet and work with at gigs who you actually really love, you’ll become really tight with and there will be this kind of mutually beneficial explosion of reciprocal inspiration where you learn so much from each other and spur each other on. No established icon of yours will have as much influence on your musical development as your real-world peers, in my experience. You won’t make those kinds of visceral connections at a distance through devices, it comes from being in the trenches together at gigs.
@individual5021
5 ай бұрын
I agree. Specially in rocks circles, so many bands garner attention mainly from their live shows
@ConnorMacDougallMusic
5 ай бұрын
Especially if you don't have any music out yet, playing out, getting videos and interacting with your audience, are the best way to get people to care about your music
@jasongraham4425
5 ай бұрын
I think about this shit all the time. You’re exactly right about not wanting to sacrifice the things you love that you would never be happy without. I think even if you aren’t a famous musician you’re making a big impact with content like this. Subscribed!
@Mike-rw2nh
5 ай бұрын
As a fully qualified boomer bends Am pentatonic old fart guitar princess, I just want everyone to know that this gentleman’s angry logic is something special. Take heed and listen. Stellar content, good sir.
@noahraab2429
5 ай бұрын
Hey, don’t shit on yourself for that, AC/DC did it. That’s my favorite sound.
@turquoisetangerinebusiness7240
5 ай бұрын
@@noahraab2429whack sound, they sound like a dying parrot
@noahraab2429
5 ай бұрын
@@turquoisetangerinebusiness7240 not to me
@michelmangelo
5 ай бұрын
idk why this was so fucking funny. musician humor is the best
@BLACKLAVENDERfilmscores
5 ай бұрын
Facts. I write film scores just FOR MYSELF. I do all my graphic design, drawings, guitars, drums etc I do it all and you are correct NO ONE GIVES A FUCK.
@chrisparsons1766
5 ай бұрын
This is a great video this is an actual “no BS” video. I think so many artists out there have a hard time dropping the ego and realizing that when you first start NO ONE CARES (except for maybe immediate family and friends, if that) and that your goal is exposure at the end of the day. A lot of artists don’t wanna do the other parts tho and just wanna goof off and just “make music man” actual good advice that requires some humbling before you can take it in
@rabbitguy337
5 ай бұрын
I’ve started two bands in the last 3 years and both times r*PE allegations from high school surfaced on social media and everything got ruined so now every time I pick up a guitar I break down and cry for an hour because something I worked so hard on was destroyed for completely unrelated reasons.
@marshallzingkhai889
5 ай бұрын
Bruh. Both times?
@Eyeupthebison
2 ай бұрын
Maybe don’t fiddle ppl?
@LeYoIdBeHe
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the advice!! I'm on that road right now. You've inspired with your humor and insight, so I've been branching out socials slowly. I'm less worried about the music and more focused on the marketing and entertainment value of music media because that seems to get the attention. Besides, making videos is kinda fun. Just wish I was good at editing like you. Thanks Judy!
@ultimadum7785
5 ай бұрын
I'm unironically gonna use this vid as a guide, and this couldn't have come at a better time for me because I will be dropping an album soon.
@AaaaZ-lk9pd
5 ай бұрын
As someone who knows a thing or two from the inside working of this as a whole, this works good... in theory. It's unfortunately a bit naive on some parts. Don't get me wrong, he said some good things, but the big picture is not there. First off let's tackle the big point he left out that's pretty important for most people: you're not gonna make good money. Unless you're big, but this is for a later point. And you can make even less if you live somewhere with high income taxes. Being a musician simply does not pay for the 99%. So yeah if you're planning to be rich, fucking forget it. No one is buying music. No one is going to your live shows unless you have a following. That's something to consider, if you don't have someone that will pay your housing and your food, you likely won't be able to be a full time original artist and live the same life someone with a good job will. Number two: you can indeed make good music and market it "good". But in reality, does it work like that? Maybe-ish. Mostly no. I'm sorry to break it to you, but trust me, fucking trust me, that's not how 95% of the big acts got big, especially going out of rock and metal. There are A LOT of moving parts from very big actors and a lot, A LOT of lying. Listen, no artist is going to tell you "yeah we got a contract from Sony because we fit the demographic they wanted to hit, we were charismatic enough and we were put in front of you in some carefully measured manner so it didn't seem obvious". Since most big artists are actually textbook narcissists behind closed doors (more on that later) they LOVE to be the hero of the world in their own heads, so to say something like "yeah we worked really hard, we had the discipline, we came from nothing and here we are all because we love music you know and you can be like me too" isn't a big thing to ask to them. That's why songwriters exists. And ghost writers. And session musicians. And all those professionals. Sure, some wanted to do that from the start, but a lot of them wanted to be original artists first. And why, you ask. Because this is, at the end of the fucking day, nothing more than a business and there's a clear hierarchy about who has the power. And you're either a puppet to it or you're gonna get crushed. So those musicians, rather than going even more broke than they already are, they write for others. Let's make this analogy, say you're a researcher who has a tech startup and you come up with some new revolutionary technology. What is more profitable, to try to sell it yourself, knowing that no one knows you and that your research budget is very limited, putting you in a very vulnerable spot, or go to fucking Tesla and go home with 100M, since they have the means to expand your technology and to keep it safe from some other tech big, avoiding them to downright steal and work on it themselves? Number three: about the whole "selling your soul". Guy here made some good points but there's one very important one. You have to be one egocentric fuck to be a very famous musicians. You have to shoot from behind and step on a lot of corpses to reach the top. You have to care only about yourself. No family, no friends, no significant others. So if you're highly empathetic, you're gonna have a very hard time. Number four: at a certain point, if you want to be VERY BIG, just forget about songwriting. You basically have to feed your audience around the image you created for yourself. You won't be free to do whatever the fuck, you won't have artistic freedom, you won't be able to talk about what you want in your music. You are a product now. See, this is why many famous musicians got addicted to something, why many killed themselves. Cause they thought living by music would have saved them from their void, that they would have had the ultimate fix for their feelings of inferiority and for the times they had to lie down under evvryone. But then they figure that there's no poetry, that they don't feel any better than before, that eventually the people they wanted to prove wrong just forgot about them anyways. And they can't escape, they have contracts and obligations in doing something they don't necessarily want to do. HOWEVER, good news is that this whole ordeal seems to exist less in rock, metal, alternative. Saved from some big acts who are basically pop acts appropriating rock music, there are some niches who are cleaner. But then again, refer to point one. You probably won't make good money. P.S. big thing I left out: where you are in the world matters. Yes, the internet is a powerful instrument, but it's equally saturated. Ever wondered why big acts come all from big cities? Don't compare yourself with Metallica if you're a guy from rural Poland, you're gonna feel inferior and not good enough by default because you didn't count a lot of ambiental factor.
@Selcouth.z
5 ай бұрын
I wish I could copy this and write it down somewhere.
@RhythmAddictedState
5 ай бұрын
@@Selcouth.z Screenshot it and OCR it, or PDF it, print it and frame it lol
@AaaaZ-lk9pd
5 ай бұрын
@@Selcouth.z if you want to do that do it now, I reread it and fixed some grammar and orthographic horrors I made hahahaha. Was very tired, apparently. What I wanted to add is that this is just the experience and the things I understood during the years. Don't give up on music, don't you dare. Don't let business people and their ways compromise your art. I just wanted to warn about the reality of things and try to prevent somebody from falling into the super romaniticized narrative the industry loves to tell. I mean, they need new people to drag in. But don't give up. Not on art.
@Eyeupthebison
2 ай бұрын
Number 4 unironically gonna make me kms now ffs lmao
@AlanArteche
5 ай бұрын
"Musicians don't make music, they make marketing strategies."
@festernassociates
5 ай бұрын
I’m 37 and I figured this out when I was 22.. I’ve written a lot of songs since then. I finally went to a real studio and recorded a few songs before deciding to start over.. luckily I’ve already spent a ton of time and money learning marketing and business.. I realized when I was 22 that I hadn’t put enough time into developing my craft in my teenage years.. so I had to take a long term approach. I’m not even focused on launch yet.
@metalheadblues
5 ай бұрын
A video with actual helpful advice. Bravo Judy
@pawewronowski4222
5 ай бұрын
I'm gonna take that advice. Thank you, judy.
@PearHellforge
5 ай бұрын
love it when he says the line. i know I'm older than him, but i love it...
@user-bi1ij3tk2w
5 ай бұрын
Bro is acting like he already isnt a famous musician EDIT: (also this is actualy some W advice esp with learning the social media algo's, which is applicable with any startup)
@mugbrain
5 ай бұрын
That mic drop of an ending tho
@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
5 ай бұрын
Fun fact: some early KGLW used iPhones to record
@donnienarco144
5 ай бұрын
Modern phones in general work even better than most basic analog stuff bands used to have in the past
@thepreseason
4 ай бұрын
'write the songs' best advice ive heard
@bey69420
5 ай бұрын
3:09 as a freebie I would suggest adding your music to a street fight videos and uploading it to twitter you'll thank me later
@chandlerrr6177
5 ай бұрын
it appears uncle judy has been looksmaxing
@koletharp7168
5 ай бұрын
HE SAID THE THING!
@BigMacAttack83
5 ай бұрын
Uncle Judy, we aren't an indi band from Atlanta, but we are a thrash band from Conyers, GA. Embering Effigy.
@iseeyou3352
5 ай бұрын
Last video about Sweeps and this one is good asf
@world_musician
5 ай бұрын
What about if you're a musician that plays a collection of historical lutes from the silk road?
@persondude2505
3 ай бұрын
The one place I think not playing live at the start doesn’t apply is if you’re in the hardcore/punk scene. Since in my experience so much of whether or not people care about listening to your music in those scenes comes from how energetic your live show is. But this doesn’t mean you shouldn’t also be coming up w marketing strategies lol.
@Jamesjimjimmy
5 ай бұрын
What if i make punk music and everything you said is gay?
@gaymanisfree
5 ай бұрын
Brotherhood… as someone who makes a living in marketing anyone in my career field will tell you nothing beats word of mouth. Do no waste your time ‘marketing’ your music. Bad take. Make great music and it will sell itself. If you’re making ads or posts about your music people will tune out. Nothing will make people lose interest faster than advertising to them. What do you do when you see an ad on your given social platform? You skip. This ‘musicians need to have good marketing’ thing is such cancer and it’s cringe af. Bad take. Completely unbased. Write good music that’s it
@billybutcher4995
5 ай бұрын
That’s actually I really good point. Iv only ever found one good band from ads the rest are pretty bad.
@catcat4697
5 ай бұрын
I remember being an angsty alt teen and getting a slipknot add on KZitem, it made me despise them to the point that I still haven't really checked them out. Funny how that works
@acrackhead2607
5 ай бұрын
0:50 damn guess i gotta go write some songs now 😂
@michaelallen1177
5 ай бұрын
We’re gonna go far kids!
@domcellini6466
5 ай бұрын
One thing I learned from the SoundCloud era is the song could be trash but the video can be lit and it’ll go viral and now you have lil pump
@domcellini6466
5 ай бұрын
And everyone else who was first in lyrical lemonade
@kikaho_
5 ай бұрын
Thank you Uncle Judy
@wilydingus
5 ай бұрын
Great vid, nailed it. I feel like I knew this stuff but its useful and sometimes had hard truths that I needed to hear explicitly before id abide lol
@marcopolo9622
5 ай бұрын
Omg bro !!! This was the message I needed!!! The steps I needed too!! God bless you bro !!!! Wow. I’ve been so stuck trying to make my music 😂. Thanks man, your godsend
@Elias_Tekton
5 ай бұрын
Eh, fame is overrated. I just want to have fun!!! I'll keep my family and my brotherhood too!
@AsAugustSleeps
5 ай бұрын
Infant Annihilator is brilliant at marketing. They don’t play live and they still blew up.
@dmitrygolovin9029
5 ай бұрын
QUESTION: Is playing covers on IG or KZitem a good marketing strategy? I see a lot of channels blow up by playing covers but when it comes to their originals it's like no one cares about it. Maybe people get used to you singing/playing their already loved songs and only small portion of them care enough to listen to your originals (still better than 0 though) Any thoughts on this?
@W4TSKY
5 ай бұрын
Lmao I feel like you answered your own question. If you want to be a “cover artist” like Boyce Avenue, then yeah, post covers, if you want people to listen to your original music, then don’t. Pretty simple.
@DarkLightSwordFight
5 ай бұрын
Its really awesome cause theres alot of people who need to hear this.......😂😂😂😂
@danyarger
5 ай бұрын
As a guitar player of 41 years, I learned something from a younger generation today. Thank you🙏🏻
@mattdelany6799
5 ай бұрын
You haven’t figured that out by now?
@andaniletlalo2877
3 ай бұрын
Bro...money. just money
@The_Chosen_One66
5 ай бұрын
I love the LA noir style jazz going on in the background such a magnificent touch
@Domn879
5 ай бұрын
‘If’. Yeah right Judy.
@GlupShooto
5 ай бұрын
The drip feeding is what AJR does all the time, just single after single
@user-bj8cr9dh9l
5 ай бұрын
why does everyone want to become an influencer 😭😭😭😭 ffs please just stop
@larryjackson6075
5 ай бұрын
I used to be a Hendrix-freak, but I quit when I realized that the singers hold all the aces.
@himynameisjoe4009
5 ай бұрын
When Judy was naming the adversities, it was so dead on to what I actually do.
@GavinTownsley
12 күн бұрын
I couldn't imagine any musicians listening to this guy..I mean imagine being out your face and listening to him slavering on
@jw1980
5 ай бұрын
A good example of playing live later in your career and not as much in the beginning is Steely Dan.
@BataraKado
5 ай бұрын
Thanks Judy I know alot of your videos are comedic but this one I watched after meeting my hero (buzz Osbourne) this video gave me hope. The truth hurts guys but you gotta learn how to not be hurt by anything.
@CalebRapids
5 ай бұрын
How to be a KZitemr in 2024: 1. Be really annoying 2. Have no talent 3. Repeat
@benmyths
5 ай бұрын
hmmm pretty good advice. might enroll myself to that 40$ one hour guitar lesson or something
@CallEmOut-b
5 ай бұрын
Ngl actually helpful advice lowkey though
@brainmushart561
5 ай бұрын
busking is a whole lot of fun.
@chesterharris4452
5 ай бұрын
AMEN
@imamimemotherf6938
5 ай бұрын
I dont want to be famous. I only want to make money.
@StRosen
5 ай бұрын
What if I'm lazy tho
@Scream_Soda172
5 ай бұрын
FAIL
@soundonsound71
5 ай бұрын
Hahaha the 1st minute is so real lol
@user-rg7zm5zu4e
3 ай бұрын
Bro im not even 2 minutes into this video and this is the best video I have ever seen thank you so much
@Real_Boye
12 күн бұрын
Without a music video how tf am I supposed to advertise my shit? I could make clips out of my music video and share as reels and stuff. It's not entirely useless..
@tonguesoffire7561
5 ай бұрын
On board for most of it but it's also not that simple to get on a tour lmao. Trust me
@cloudjarmusic
5 ай бұрын
Awesome video 🙌🏼💯🎶
@scripted44
5 ай бұрын
You are so right about selling your soul to the devil, idk why its always depicted as a bad deal in literature
@kitomir9962
4 ай бұрын
judy where r new vids? im worried
@sasuofficial3448
5 ай бұрын
HEHEHEHE add musician gf 😂
@jimmyallen8210
5 ай бұрын
First you have to unlock the fretboard
@slothoverlordz2051
5 ай бұрын
My favourite trans content creator!
@guts2112
5 ай бұрын
thanks unc
@jves1763
5 ай бұрын
unclejudy: if you don't have any music out. NO ONE CARES my experience: lots of objectively decent music out. NO ONE STILL CARES
@cr3d294
5 ай бұрын
Write 100 songs. Maybe, if you're lucky 5 will be good and worth recording.
@bronzejohn2640
5 ай бұрын
Father wise
@TitaniusAnglesmith
5 ай бұрын
Perfect. Now I just need to find other people to fail with
@hipsgotnips
5 ай бұрын
Literally the only guitar player I know, your too famous at this point
@hipsgotnips
5 ай бұрын
I will not be editing this again
@kenny6920
5 ай бұрын
exactly
@greatgrax7266
5 ай бұрын
Yeah man, reality reality hurts Nowadays you don't release albums because nobody care(unless you are Radiohead idk). You don't care about unique album cover, you just make tons of singles And marketing instead of playing music just sucks :(
@themoosehunterepicgaming
5 ай бұрын
Cool Guy
@broncoxy
5 ай бұрын
I'm studying online only, don't have a job and don't have a gf... does that mean I already sold my soul or that I didn't have one to begin with
@valaki5679
5 ай бұрын
Thank you Jesse Pinkman
@kylemussman4342
5 ай бұрын
However, you fail to realize. I love playing live
@vikopresto1749
5 ай бұрын
Disagree about the music videos, i click on a lot of music videos, if the thumbnail is nice
@mattdelany6799
5 ай бұрын
Tory Slusher is the best guitarist in the world, and she has 12,900 subscribers. Music doesn’t pay. Never has. Never will. Interviewing pays, but then you are in the media.
@Foray-sq9ir
9 күн бұрын
I have 15 songs I'm ashamed of!
@AndyDrudy
5 ай бұрын
He's actualy right.
@shredbacca
5 ай бұрын
welp guys if i follow everything here correctly i should be famous this time next yr wish me luck lmao.
@RiloRox
5 ай бұрын
when I tell people that, Im an asshole...
@woodoo9017
5 ай бұрын
so sad you unlisted ukrainian anthem video :( just wanted to learn it the way you played it
@Kyyp3r
5 ай бұрын
I mean sure I’ll come up with a good marketing strategy, but at least give me some camples of someone who had one for inspo
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