I, for one, welcome our new 5 color Chainwhirler overlords.
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
Same
@jamaigar
5 жыл бұрын
Better yet: chainwhirler turbofog teferi control... with the surveil snapcaster-like spell
@YzzleMate
5 жыл бұрын
Progenit-er WWWUUUBBBRRRGGG
@nickst.pierre5598
5 жыл бұрын
YzzleMate Progenetus 2.0: WWWWUUUUBBBBRRRRGGGG Protection from everything, this applies while Progenetus 2.0 is in any zone, including outside of the game. If A spell or ability would cause Progenetus 2.0 to leave the battlefield, ignore its effect. When you sacrifice Progenetus 2.0, don't
@Touphnya
5 жыл бұрын
magic players used to splash colors, now they are splashing chainwhirlers...smh
@ghostlourde2700
5 жыл бұрын
You can't put all the best cards in a pile and call it a day? ...But Jund!
@oddlyonlyjack9560
4 жыл бұрын
... but jund!
@AnikaJarlsdottr
4 жыл бұрын
... But Jund!
@zucchini_flowers
4 жыл бұрын
Lol my first deck was jund for this very reason
@hiimemily
2 жыл бұрын
To quote the great Alex Steacy: Jund 'em out!
@honeybadgerftw2383
2 жыл бұрын
@@zucchini_flowers quite the investment off the bat lmao
@abeesknee8306
5 жыл бұрын
My main issue with the practice of setting cards up with restrictive mana costs is that they rarely actually have a major cost in gameplay consistency, but actually make the deck cost more by skyrocketing the price of fixing lands
@espasmemuscular
4 жыл бұрын
Might be the intention... WOTC are not particularlly known for not being greedy
@Naykid391
4 жыл бұрын
@@espasmemuscular you do realize that WOTC makes NO money off of the secondary market, right?
@antonperera8940
4 жыл бұрын
@@Naykid391 high price cards, especially when there are a lot like say a cycle of lands, up pack and box sales for investors, lgs, and individual players. Drums up demand for that set's cards and therefore it's packs.
@knavenformed9436
4 жыл бұрын
@@Naykid391 Are you sure about that? Are you sure the second hand market doesn't affect what kinds of products get printed? Isn't the 100th VIP Premium Full Art Foil Alt Art Signed Exclusive Box Topper even a bit suspicious?
@zacksullivan7426
2 жыл бұрын
@@Naykid391 reprint equity
@christopherwoodbury7520
5 жыл бұрын
Everyone else can cast Niv. Me I will always be 1 mana off and lose as a result.
@mightyone3737
5 жыл бұрын
I can't quite tell if he's being entirely serious, but I know from personal experience that designing around being able to reliably get cards out early is how you win, and decks that I've built to try to push past the 2 or 3 mana 'sweet spot' that most of my decks do best in have been very unreliable. They'll do great when things work out, and if they can face a deck that isn't ready to disrupt their fragile position they can compete, but vs a deck even sort of prepared for them they get utterly destroyed most of the time. This is why my green based decks are constantly jank, because I always want to try to fit in too many cards costing 4 or 5, because hey, I've got ~20 mana dorks, and this works fine on paper, but in practice, it's too slow and too clumsy to win reliably. Even using serious rampers, like 4 Priest of Titania and 4 Elvish Archdruid still struggles to reliably set up vs anything with any answer to creatures at all. It's a fun deck when things work out and it wins the game in one big attack, and it has answers to lots of types of cards, but those answers often come too late, or can't be cast after I've lost 4 mana dorks to burn/removal, and am sitting on 3 forests. Now, I know things would be very different if I didn't restrict my budget heavily, or spent all my budget on one type of deck, but I can't afford good lands to make multi-coloured decks able to beat my mono-coloured ones, so unless I'm in an EDH mood, I pretty much stick to mono-coloured atm.
@stevsomeguy07
5 жыл бұрын
This could lead to a really great video. “Most messed up Mana Bases in Standard history” Talk about times when we had absurdly good, fast and easy Mana in Standard, and also times when Mana wasn’t so good.
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
I can't really think of a time when mana wasn't good. Urza/Masques Standard, maybe? I like "Most Messed Up Manabases" though.
@TheCatHerder
5 жыл бұрын
Odyssey/Onslaught standard, when we got fetches and had nothing worth fetching. Convinced me that my fetch lands were bad and I traded them away for nothing.
@Janshevik
5 жыл бұрын
dude, I remember that standard and people still went crazy over them. Don't forget there were still original duals in extended, if not extended then legacy.
@TheCatHerder
5 жыл бұрын
I was 12 and unaware of any format beyond standard at the time, it was definitely a folly of youth.
@poyi1013
5 жыл бұрын
Cat Herder no one was expecting to play like 20 years of magic back then~ extended was horrible back then. Enchantress and rock? Survival of the fittest? Sylvan library? Anyway standard were the only thing to play because it is more fresh and interesting~ the meta changes every 3 month so you don’t get bored.
@ruki25
5 жыл бұрын
Back in RtR/Innistrad standard, high schooler me figured out that a turn two farseek let me consistantly cast plasm capture on turn 3 so that I could counter my opponents 3 or 4 drop (it was a midrange dominant meta at my lgs, so everyone played 3 or 4 drops consistantly) and play Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker on turn 4 to start blowing up lands. Slide in some acidic slimes and badda bing badda boom.
@sorvian25
5 жыл бұрын
Pretty Deece has quickly become my favorite piece of magic content on YT. Keep up the good work Jon! Cheers
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@peterbillings3276
5 жыл бұрын
Seriously, this is what I’ve been looking for! Good work!
@wedgemontindustries1745
5 жыл бұрын
Totally on point. Trying to slowly get back into the game and this insight is super valuable
@perchipy7900
5 жыл бұрын
“Five colour good stuff “
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
Never goes out of style
@perchipy7900
5 жыл бұрын
Q
@snowhusk
5 жыл бұрын
"all the answers, all the time"
@Cormonkey18
5 жыл бұрын
Still waiting on that jodha deck to make it's way into standard lol
@benjamin_burke
5 жыл бұрын
Man, if only you had more time to explore this even more. Tarkir-Zendikar Standard had Dark Jeskai, five-color Bring to Light, and Four-Color Rally, as well as a handful of three-color decks.
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
It was definitely on the table, but fetchlands + fetchable duals seemed too obvious. Still probably should've included them though!
@stewartboyatt4673
5 жыл бұрын
The thing is that mana base was actually super mathmatically solid. There were close to zero cards that required double pips in a single color, meaning you never had to have more than 14 of any one color in a deck (usually 12 or 13 was good enough). A deck could run 12 fetch lands to grab the right T1 & T2 basics, then just start chaining Tango lands. When 12 lands = 12 sources for each of your 4 sources you are in a nasty situation.
@bedwablackburn
5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me yet again how I want WOTC to finish the battle lands enemy cycle
@bedwablackburn
5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me yet again how I want WOTC to finish the battle lands enemy cycle
@sanderdekoning1948
5 жыл бұрын
My 5-colour Awaken deck from Tarkir-Zendikar Standard still is the favorite deck I've ever brewed.
@zenmaster8826
5 жыл бұрын
If color restriction was meant for higher powered cards, what the Heck where they thinking when they created wurmcoil engine AKA the colorless titan?
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
Artifact blocks are fun
@zenmaster8826
5 жыл бұрын
@@tcgplayercom Really should have made wurmcoil 7 CMC.. I really didn't like how it shares the same converted mana cost as the titans while being colorless and having the same power and toughness as them..
@MrBeaux
5 жыл бұрын
+TCGplayer They really need to make a new block with the power level of the Scars of Mirrodin block. We haven't had one of those in awhile...
@RugaQwarrcall
5 жыл бұрын
@@MrBeaux Umm...no. They shouldn't. Mirridon block nearly killed the game because it was so overpowered most people ended up quitting the game because they didn't want to deal with it.
@xed8530
5 жыл бұрын
Mirrodin was disgusting. He said SCARS of Mirrodin. People were getting back in during that time. Standard was fun and overall was a good decision. It had a high power level but so did the sets around it so, it's fine. I do agree mirrodin was disgusting and unfair (which did attract some affinity and Mono U tron players though)
@chrisbrooke5854
5 жыл бұрын
Any good EDH player will tell you CMC and life totals mean nothing!
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
Oh yes.
@theodorereggiardo77
5 жыл бұрын
correction: life means noting and only cmc matters. the colors of that mana almost never matter (unless you have infinite colorless and needthat one black to win...)
@jemm113
5 жыл бұрын
Unless you're Boros in which case the minotaurs were shit cause they were too expensive to cast, came out too late and couldn't even get its own game plan going the turn it came out!!
@alejandrorivas4585
5 жыл бұрын
@Ed Findlay lets play some cockatrice man
@6slade
5 жыл бұрын
as a player with a mono-white lifegain deck... well screw it the life is just stalling give me a scroll rack and an approach of the second sun and we'll call it a day.
@TheLangenator
5 жыл бұрын
ahem *taps microphone * “Phyrexian Obliterator”
@zemyla
3 жыл бұрын
No one played it, because Dismember could be run in every deck.
@TheLangenator
3 жыл бұрын
Fair point, but still, Obliterator is a bit ridiculous for its cost. A (slightly hard) 4 cost 5/5 trample with a huge upside
@mightybatillo
5 жыл бұрын
When you play monogreen but dont draw a land in 3 turns...
@heriticsanghieli
5 жыл бұрын
The other thing that made 5CC possible in Lorwyn Alara standard was the filter land cycle (Mystic Gate & friends), which allowed you to easily cast a Cloudthresher on 6 and a Cruel Ultimatum on 7.
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
Oddly enough, the list I found didn't have any filter lands that produced green mana, but yeah, those lands (and Exotic Orchard) were all contributing factors
@r.c.beringuela2426
5 жыл бұрын
Back then, I was a broke young college student and the memory of being Banefired for 20 by 5 color control decks during Alara-Lorwyn standard still haunts me to this day.
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
I still have nightmare about getting my Boggart Ram-Gang flash blocked by Plumeveil. Stupid wall
@jellosapiens7261
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for inspiring me to play Conclave Cavalier, Aryel, Knight of Windgrace, and Knight of Malice in the Same deck.
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
You are allowed to publicly thank TCGplayer for all your future wins.
@Humbugg22
5 жыл бұрын
I teared up with nostalgia at the cruel control deck. What amazing times playing cruel ultimatum on turn 7 in Standard. Thank you for the video!
@Guglhupfscout24
5 жыл бұрын
man that editing of the cards is so smooth! i love that style of presentation!
@flamey9180
5 жыл бұрын
I'm running niv-mizzet parun in a blue/black deck with 4 steam vents and 3 mountains.... Don't judge
@theinternetshavecome1640
5 жыл бұрын
Judge? I say you deserve a medal.
@jonathanmellette8541
5 жыл бұрын
Man, this is the first episode of this I've seen, but Jon, you've got a great voice and presentation, and I appreciate your dry wit. (And I'm a professional speaker, so I tend to evaluate such things somewhat critically.) You've gained a subscriber here.
@Peter-qd7do
5 жыл бұрын
You know, the main take away I have from this is Assasin's trophy is even better than I thought it was before. Lets shut down stupid dual lands!
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
Not the intended takeaway, please do not do this
@jordancaldwell2208
5 жыл бұрын
I built 4 color UB control deck splashing green for Trophy and White for Teferi. The mana hasn't slowed me down yet.
@Arvensa
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that sounds spicy. I've been wondering if that could work. (Or if it's even worth doing when the Nexus of Fate deck exists-- get that card the hell out of MtG Arena, WotC)
@jordancaldwell2208
5 жыл бұрын
@@Arvensa Mission Briefing and Discovery make everything run well. Surveil is so good. The occasional Mission into Mission into removal/counter (with surveil 1)/Discovery (surveil 2, draw) is as great as it sounds. Trophy deals with Planeswalkers and Azcanta and Mission makes sure you have more when you need it.
@stewartboyatt4673
5 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Nexus of fate is about to get a lot harder to play with when bant loses 8 of its lands and its best fog. It will probably bounce back 3 months from now, but we do get a break till then.
@DaerkciwLuxa
5 жыл бұрын
I really like pretty decee. It's a good show lots of fun. Great speaking voice my man.
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@VictorTheLegend
5 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a card, and the video was about that card. LOL
@thecollector8802
5 жыл бұрын
This has given me confidence an deck idea I’ve had floating around for a while
@brandonguthrie8122
5 жыл бұрын
This makes me think of a pokemon tcg deck called Archie's blastoise. Archie's ace in the hole was written off as unplayable. Then a guy showed up to worlds and ran over everyone in his path with what seemed to be too risky of a premise. My point being never count out certain cards because they seem restrictive. Be creative and try your best to make cards work. You might just be amazed.
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
I'm down for ANY excuse to read up about competitive Pokemon decks, thank you for replying!
@brandonguthrie8122
5 жыл бұрын
@@tcgplayercom it was worlds 2015. You'd think the card was ban worthy because of how blistering fast the deck plays. No one knew it was even possible to play it let alone so consistently :)
@Yuzuki1337
5 жыл бұрын
Whats even cooler is that the same Blastoise was already the engine players tried to cheat it out asap in the very beginning of the Pokemon TCG in a deck called Rain Dance :)
@bedwablackburn
5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me a great deal like playing dark ritual, buried alive with Reya and 2 strong creatures back in the day and either reanimate or exhume T2 to start the gravy train. That is, glancing at that deck with my rudimentary knowledge of Pokemon.
@aliasn4088
5 жыл бұрын
Wow, i looked up that deck and oh my god is that nasty. It has a hell of a turbo engine and just search and deck and dump its hand. Then you play Archies ace in the hole and just end your opponent because suddenly that graveyard isnt a graveyard and you are staring down a very powerful field.
@Sebobles
5 жыл бұрын
Pretty Dece is the reason I’m still subscribed to this channel. Thanks for creating great content.
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks a lot!
@a_doggo
2 жыл бұрын
That bant deck was great, one of the first iterations on my Standard deck after returning the magic following an 18-year hiatus (1994-2012; parents had a toy store, long story).
@theinternetshavecome1640
5 жыл бұрын
Man, the Internet needs more places where people clearly and amusingly explain things that otherwise are as confusing as they are humourless. Thanks, Jon, for providing one of those places!
@luizgagliardi6614
5 жыл бұрын
Wow, the editing of this video was great! So was the content. Keep it up!
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Astar72439
5 жыл бұрын
longer episodes plz this is my favorite thing
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Derpolnischfrosch
5 жыл бұрын
My Manaphilosophie went like this today: play Gateway Plaza on the first turn Facepalm Concede
@7yditchfits
5 жыл бұрын
Man, Cruel Control was such a sick deck. A bit before my time but I saw videos of it. Good stuff.
@Cesshiphop
5 жыл бұрын
I, for one, LOVED Thragtusk and Restoration Angel in standard. As Cruel Ultimatum as well. I was definitely one of the "You can't do that" "Watch me" type of folk.
@psychomagi
5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I love these when you do them!
@drewp9819
Жыл бұрын
This is a really insightful video, and fun an hell to listen to and watch
@nlb137
5 жыл бұрын
I think that price makes a big difference in multicolor decks. A budget 'kitchen table' deck (which is what most people have the most experience with) are likely going to be running mostly basic lands and maybe common-rarity lands like the ravnica gate cycle (and even then only for a slower deck). Shocklands and things like reflecting pool are $10 a pop, fetchlands are more like $40-50 (numbers from a quick google). Running even two colors with something like a 10/10 land split, or 8/8/4 with a set of common fixers like guildgates, makes running high-color cards a lot more sketchy than running the same things in a deck with a lot more color-fixing.
@Araragi298
5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate everything you said except at the end 'screw the math!' Yes, taking risks has been very effective historically in competitive MTG. Right now the existence of Hollow one decks running cards like Goblin Lore is exactly just that. But good competitive decks use CALCULATED risk, meaning that there was indeed a lot of number crunching involved in fine tuning the list. You bet that includes mana bases. So no, don't 'screw the math'. Embrace it, and embrace taking calculated risks. They tend to pay off in the end.
@jamaigar
5 жыл бұрын
hollow one looks very random on the surface, but i've been told by a mathematician that it's not as random as it might look like, quite the opposite, it's very consistent. I've encountered similar cases studying statistics. Sometimes there is a pattern where there seems to be none and you gotta see the numbers to really see it. So yeah, embrace the math! It'll do you good ^^
@siukong
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. A better phrase would be "reconsider the math, and your preconceptions about it"
@kirbyjoe7484
5 жыл бұрын
No, Goblin Chain Whirler was never meant to be played only in mono red. It was however supposed to have a significant build around cost to your mana base if you wanted to play it in multicolor decks which it does. I think basically their intent was to restrict those playing Whirler and similarly costed mono color cards to mostly two color decks which they pretty much have although that may change with the completion of the shock land cycle in standard. I think it may be possible to play something like Whirler in a three color deck if the player is basically willing to lose like a third of their life to their own lands in order to be able to consistently play it on curve. Giving cards ridiculous mono color mana restrictions doesn't keep them from getting played in multi-color decks but it does however increase the build around cost of the mana base in those deck. I have played five color tier one decks in the past and the one thing that is always true of them is you are getting kicked in the balls by your mana base in order to play all five colors. Generally those sorts of decks start with green as a primary color and then employ some sort of birds of paradise type mana dork that makes multiple colors of mana if not all of them. On top of this the deck must be played in a standard setting where there are a ton of busted multicolor land cycles present that don't come into play tapped. Usually these lands will instead burn your face off in one way or another so you often need to run some sort of life gain as well vs aggro. And finally these decks usually need to have some sort of early card draw, card filtering or further mana fixing present. All in all there is a real price you pay for going rainbow colored and in those decks it is exceedingly painful to run cards with lots of single color dedicated mana in their casting cost.
@Lotties_handsaw
5 жыл бұрын
Ever since I started playing in return to Ravnica block I have staunchly and fullheartedoy believed that one color is too few and three is too many.
@conovan5081
5 жыл бұрын
Funny how this showed up as a recommendation after I watched mono black Niv-Mizzet control deck
@johnbaird6752
2 жыл бұрын
Flashbacks to Temur Reclamation splashing white for Teferi in the pre-ban standard meta intensifies
@shuboy05
4 жыл бұрын
Woah, I actually got that 1997 champion deck for my birthday. That was back in the day that Wizards sold those champion decks. I vividly remember each of those cards.
@mrapplegate4065
5 жыл бұрын
I love this video. Great insight on previous Standards.
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@The_Evening_Sun
5 жыл бұрын
And now with chromatic lantern you can literally play a five color deck with only 1 type of basic land.
@m3ntal_floss937
5 жыл бұрын
A C not consistently though. I’d play all 5 basics just in case
@felixseifert1733
5 жыл бұрын
i love 5 colored decks, and the random stuff that comes with it i saw the card: mazes end, and knew i want to play it, so i figured, i had to stall the game enought to make use of it: the only way possible, take all my defenders and be able to block every attack that comes after turn 3 until you win, by the time i added the door to nithingness (takes two mana of each color, but u can choose a player that looses the game) and fireballs for additional win conditions, i have a creature that, when tapped, gives me mana for each defender creature i control so basically i wait and at some point i simply say: you lost, and thats just super fun, because you can really see the struggle on your opponents face, trying to tear down your walls, and boooom fireball
@gormold4163
5 жыл бұрын
I have a casual deck that I fondly refer to as my mono green rainbow deck. It only has forests, but uses cards like market festival and sheltered aerie and pretty much any land enhancing enchantments I could get my hands on. I also use arbor elf and other untappers to pull out up to 56 mana of any color combination I want. The rest of the deck is just various ways to use that much mana at once. I try to have at least one mana dump in each color.
@kothorix
5 жыл бұрын
Do you use Premiere? What is the graphics effect called that causes objects to float around like that?
@DrunkManSquakin666
5 жыл бұрын
I use hash marks on a piece of scrap paper to count the number of mana symbols in the costs of my deck and build the mana base to reflect what I see. I only use Any Lands like City of Brass only in decks with three or more colors, mostly because I have a lotta decks and not a lot of money. Makes life easier. But, I do my best to have as many dual and multi-lands as reasonably possible when needed. Nice vid, by the way. Very informative.
@LoxeBi
4 жыл бұрын
"You shouldn't be able to put all the best cards into a deck and call it a day." R&D: Hold my beer.
@hiygamer
5 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking recently that I might have to look at making a 5 colour standard deck with the Ravnica sets coming out.
@asimpletrashgoblin8109
5 жыл бұрын
Hey! 1:30 that’s five color control! That’s when I started playing magic!! We all earn our beats one way or another. Lol
@hydra66
5 жыл бұрын
chromatic lantern back in standard means you can cast anything you want.
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed!
@tonysmith9905
5 жыл бұрын
Relying on Lantern is super bad. Get your mana base fixed correctly and you'll never look at it again.
@Cormonkey18
5 жыл бұрын
And with Jodah anything is possible
@testshietchannel
5 жыл бұрын
The Problem isn´t mana cost. It´s mana Fixing. End of story.
@starvalkyrie
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's not an R&D "slipup" it's an accounting one. 5-color decks move those $100 landbases so, don't look for that to go out of style.
@jeffreyhughes210
5 жыл бұрын
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@BMoser-bv6kn
5 жыл бұрын
@Corpsefoot Gaming Yeah, that's how the gacha revenue model works. A few things in the pool matter, the majority of it is garbage that goes into the trash. If everything were playable, every card would have value and be cheap as heck. It's something MTG can do with their first mover advantage. Other games that came after had to be more pro-consumer: living card games where you pay $40 for a core playset. Or $15 for a playset of an expansion. Which is cheaper than like... one MTG card. Chase lands are the core value drip for them. For a very clear example of how incredibly miserly they are: they could make all basic lands full-art lands. Functionally and aesthetically, it would improve the game tremendously. But Wizards and Hasbro don't do it. It would cost them $0 to do and would improve the game, but making MTG the best game it can be is not their goal. Creating an economy of scarcity is. A starving nerd is easier to extract revenue from than a fulfilled one.
@mightyone3737
5 жыл бұрын
@@starvalkyrie Erm, you mean the $100 for a playset ones, right? It's not hard to spend 1k on the landbase for a 5 colour deck (and you can very, very easily spend a lot more), and naturally as long as WotC prints a decent dual land in a set, it will be a chase card, so this does help move a crap-ton of product. @Corpsefoot Gaming MTG has many different levels of play, and it is an unfortunate reality that most players won't have access to the best cards. Getting a good shot at a playset of a given rare requires what, 4 boxes of product to open? Possibly more? Most of which will be filler or flavour cards, which is why most people don't bother with this. Most people pick a level of financial investment they are comfortable with and suffer the decks they can build at that level. I'm so cheap I don't buy packs, I just buy the odd single that I'm sure will improve my deck, yet cost no more than $2, unless it's really clearly going to be an all-star in the deck. I know I'd get my butt handed to me by almost anyone that's a serious player, but I have fun, so I don't complain too much about the fact that the best lands in the game are all ancient and cost hilarious amounts of money.
@edschramm6757
5 жыл бұрын
i tend to roll 2 or three colors total in 60 card decks if i can help it (unless im playing mono, in which case i can live with that decision). if im going 3, usually i run shocks and checks as a majority of my mana base, as having one shock enables ALL of the checks to drop in ready to go. within commander, i tend to go with 2-3 colors when designing, but i have built 1 5 color deck. im still struggling with that mana base, as it is sometimes inconsistent.
@cariselle3366
5 жыл бұрын
Recently made a 4-color all-legendary deck, and it is SO fun! Rarely get cards I can't play, and really have only lost cause I didn't do something that I could have done (still getting use to the endless possibilities of combos that legendary cards have)
@derkcast620
5 жыл бұрын
Hi! I love this web series, but sadly there hasn't been an update since October 2018! will we be getting more pretty deece soon?
@StarkEpiphany
4 жыл бұрын
I realized this back when I started playing when I decided to make prismatic slivers useing only basic forests as the land base.
@Malfuuu
4 жыл бұрын
A streamer quoted once "humans want to believe they are thinking creatures when they definitively are feeling creatures". He wanted to explain why he played a card nobody played at the time. "this card feels bad, it looks bad... but it isn't" And he made good uses of this card, created decks absolutely original. This gave me inspiration and since then I create decks thinking about natural cognitive bias.
@noble64890
5 жыл бұрын
yknow back then our *ancestors* actually played true magic; dropping that vital 3rd mono-color devotion land was by itself a miracle in a 5 mana color deck
@baconsir1159
2 жыл бұрын
Saw the vivid lands and immediately knew what the mana fixing was lol, used to use those in Commander for Atraxa. Not great, but not bad
@bdarne0024
4 жыл бұрын
When you brought out 5cc I fell in love
@illustrativetexts
5 жыл бұрын
just a quick meta question: how are the animations produced? is it a well prepared project in afx/prem (geared towards recycling comps) or is it done in some sppecialized app that makes this stuff less-of-so-goddamn-time-consuming? either way, thumbs up to the tech guy as well as the talk guy! (guess I'd eat my hat if both turned out to be one.)
@IsaacMyers1
5 жыл бұрын
was that worlds deck printed with the black back and gold border? if so I believe I own a copy. I never had a chance to try playing it but now I may know what format it was from... sweet.
@gothhenge
5 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite decks is a mono-blue Commander deck. 1 of each Urza land, Reliquary tower, and a bunch of islands.
@Ellicess
4 жыл бұрын
I’m currently running Niv-Mizzet reborn in standard. WHOOOOOOOOO!!!
@judecomia6896
5 жыл бұрын
This guy is gold.
@MeandMonkeyLP
5 жыл бұрын
I think the problem is that Wizard is not really aware of Cards like Dragons Hoard, Birds of paradise and the like, which allow you to basically put in a splash for free
4 жыл бұрын
I once thought something like Obliterater's quad black cost meant I could only play it in mono black. I now see the error in that, and have situated it into a green-black deck with lots of fight effects.
@evansokolov5023
4 жыл бұрын
I remember one of the first decks I built was a 4 color aggro deck with all basics and 4 evolving wilds. I played 2 plains, 6 mountains, 4 swamps, and 6 forests. I was never mana screwed. If you believe it, it can happen
@vikingdazed7366
2 жыл бұрын
Couple months back i returned to magic through arena. my constructed archetypes went as follows. first mid range deck with any interesting cards i could find 1-2 colours. Second aggro decks mostly mono colored started to splash some colour for 1-2 cards that i found interesting. third 5 colour controll deck with every intersting win con that could stand on its own in my limited collection. I do not play constructed these days but felt it was on topic.
@halla1rw
5 жыл бұрын
I've got a Sliver Commander deck, so my mana base was easy. I've got 2 of each basic, the 10 scry temples, the 10 Ping lands, and 5 other helpful lands that come in untapped that tap for any color. Throw in Chromatic Lantern, the 2 slivers that make slivers tap for mana, and the creature that does what Lantern does. Basically the base runs perfectly fine! :)
@OuterRim-CCG
5 жыл бұрын
We have a 4C deck in the works for GRN standard! I'm hoping that it will be sweet!
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
GL!
@Yuzuki1337
5 жыл бұрын
Is it gonna be WUBG? :)
@Cormonkey18
5 жыл бұрын
Play 5 color and convoke Impervious Greatwurm turn 3
@wedgemontindustries1745
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. This was really informative!
@Wyrdangus
5 жыл бұрын
I just play green in everything and ramp a bunch and hope it works out
@zackabdo4625
5 жыл бұрын
I'm currently running a modern colorless eldrazi as a fun kind of side deck and I want to turn it commander but I'm struggling to figure a way to ensure I get my urzas out 7/10 games especially since only 1 set of them is allowed. Anyone have any ideas? I'll give you a discount at my pokemart next time you're there
@kenttsui6024
5 жыл бұрын
I love the multicolour magic decks best, domain, sunbursts, gold cards and artifacts all are my fav part of mtg.
@bluerazzbery
5 жыл бұрын
high-quality video. nice job!
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Josh-99
5 жыл бұрын
Ha! I'm old enough to have played that old Mirage/Visions 5-color deck. The correct answer to the lands was to run 4 City of Brass and 4 Gemstone Mine with a single Undiscovered Paradise. The deck was meant to be fast, so dealing damage to yourself or depleting your mines wasn't that big of a deal. I kept a Paradise on the sideboard, which I would swap in for a CoB against Sligh or a Gemstone Mine against U/W Control. I also ran a few more Ice Age painlands over Swamps. Also, the Earthquake was amazing, as it allowed you to burn your opponent out of the game or force a draw in an unwinnable situation. You're right about one thing: Magic was wild back then.
@giraculum9981
5 жыл бұрын
I remember being a new player back in RtR, building an Orzhov deck, when I had a revelation: A two-drop like Tithe Drinker (WB) is way easier to cast than a two-drop like Treacherous Pit-Dweller (BB) or Elite Inquisitor (WW). After all, there are only two ways to miss a Tithe Drinker -- draw only swamps, or draw only plains (I had barely any duals back then). So if you draw two lands, you've got a 2/4 chance. three lands, a 6/8 chance. But for the mono-colored cards, you've only got a 1/4 chance of drawing the right two lands, or a 4/8 chance when you draw three. And if you draw a WW and a BB card, you have no hope of playing both by turn 3 without dual lands. Back when I was starting out, that blew my mind, and I filled my deck with all the Tithe Drinkers and Vispoka Guildmages I could find.
@sondaddydaddyson3481
5 жыл бұрын
I played a zendikar,lifelink deck, tripple color of green,white,and black... ahhh the good ol days...
@kellenliame2674
5 жыл бұрын
I did the m20 prerelease yesterday, ran both Vivian, and the 5BBB 8/8 demon. I also threw in any of the dual lands I had because Vivian ult. Holy crap it’s funny playing green black, then all of a sudden you play a red dragon. Actively messed with everyone when I ult’d her.
@joelmonteiro1419
5 жыл бұрын
That deck that won worlds was a lot of fun to play with.
@omarsmemorybank
5 жыл бұрын
R/B Aggro w/Hazoreth is one of my favorite decks, I’ll always keep those cards together
@ninjagonepostal
5 жыл бұрын
I recall being sent to the 2009 Washington DC Grand Prix with Naya Zoo. 23 lands and an atrocious land base at that. 32 creatures, Gideon Jura and Behemoth Sledge to make Student of Warfare a mini Baneslayer Angel and tutoring sledge with Stoneforge Mystic. It was wild but, even the pros that were present that looked at the deck were surprised to see it running in standard and beating Jund better than 51% of the time. Actually, iirc, the worst I ever did against Jund in that tourney was draw. Sadly,I played against a lot of Super Friends and UW Tapout. Didn't make day 2 by 1 match.
@ShatterPalm
5 жыл бұрын
I believe I recall an extended deck that played Zur the enchanter, cryptic command, and Doran the siege tower.
@jackmarino8162
2 жыл бұрын
My commander mana base is simple: at least 30 basics, no exceptions. Add 4 to 10 non basic lands. Add rocks depending on the number of colors in the deck. At least 4 color producing rocks in a 3 color deck. 3 rocks in a 2 color deck and 2 in a mono colored deck. The mana base is different for 4 or 5 colors: 25 basics, 10 to 15 non-basics, 6 rocks and at least 1 "Color Equalizer" such as chromatic lantern.
@pawsdfgg9238
5 жыл бұрын
I never go above CMC of 2.5 In rainbow. It's just easier to maintain mana stability that way. And I've always had a habit of never including nonbasic in any deck I make unless it's more than 3 colors which mainly/only include lands that tap for one color or the other, never all. They work fine so far so I'm going something right.
@louislamothe3832
5 жыл бұрын
Jodah, Archmage Eternal enters the battlefield!
@gulmunthos
5 жыл бұрын
I mean, we are also having Chromatic Lantern, so lands can tap for any color if you wanna jam those in a deck. Don't have to worry about abrade for them.
@Minion777
5 жыл бұрын
I pray for the day we return to a Lorwyn/Alara standard meta.
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@trevorjrooney
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know, I'm really turned off by multiple single color Mana costs in a card unless I'm banking on a way to cheat it in, it's splashing in, or I've got access to some sweet lands in that format.
@SeaDraGraphics
5 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand anything, but still liked the video!
@firejuggler31
5 жыл бұрын
Haven’t played in forever. I used to run mono-blue permission. Plenty of islands, but subbed a few out for Brass Man when facing aggro.
@colerockman385
5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the insight
@tcgplayercom
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jeanegreene374
5 жыл бұрын
I usually play 5 color door (with emphasis on green and blue) and I never have any mana issues.
@cindersofcreation
5 жыл бұрын
Rupture Spire, Gateway Plaza, and Thran's Temporal Gateway allowed me to make an unholy 115 card 5 color legendary historic deck I use in Arena and oddly enough I rarely find myself in Mana issues (maybe 1/10 games) despite not having as many colorless cards as you'd assume. (Though admittedly there aren't too many cards with more than one color in it's casting cost to balance it, and the few I do far outweigh the risks). It's based around the underrated Jhoira to dig through that massive deck to facilitate card draw with the help of a couple immortal sun's I can actually get through the deck pretty easily, often only outright lose to very aggro decks, and even then sometimes can hold off just long enough to get defenses up, or more often than not Urza's -cant remember name- blast (exile all non legendary permanents) ends up wiping away anything the usual aggro deck brings and it's over before they know it. Out of all the decks I've built it is by far the most fun (though not as reliable) I've ever played.
@Genderkaiser
5 жыл бұрын
Really the more islands, mountains and forests you have, the better your mana base is. The same goes for plains and swamps; you realistically want to take them out of your deck to optimise your consistency
@ArcturusMinsk
5 жыл бұрын
"if you will it, it is no dream" - Walter Sobchak
@flare6255
2 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this in 2022 for like the 30th time. On my other screen I'm watch someone play Grixis Invoke Despair where they're running Galvanic Iteration (UB) and multiple Invoke Despairs (1BBBB) as the main combo in the deck. Some things just don't change.
@270jonp
5 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a follow up this once the standard gets closers to ending.
@Ouja
5 жыл бұрын
I ran a 5 color deck in the 90's. I spent more time swapping mana around through artifacts than actually playing, but it's always been doable. Now it's much simpler.
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