thank you Lord for saving us and showing us what freedom truly is!
@77ronboy
Жыл бұрын
We are accountable only in the sense that we are guilty beause we sin. Because we, within ourselves, are unable to resist sin, God is not holding us accountable for what we are unable to do. If we think differently, we do so because we do not know God at all.
@zandrezandberg6330
Жыл бұрын
John 3:19-20. Pastor John preached on this verse. It states clearly that we do not turn to the light because we love the darkness and so that our evil deeds are not exposed in the light. This is me choosing to rather stay in darkness and thinking its safer, than repentance and exposing my sin so that I may be set free. It's a choice. God does not make me repent. The choice is put infront of us all.
@wildbillslunksauce7621
3 жыл бұрын
If god predetermined everyone’s every move and fate, wtf is the point of proverbs? It’s advice and wisdom, why would I need advice if I’m just a puppet? This isn’t the God I know
@yitzharos
4 жыл бұрын
Everyone. Read John 6: Where Jesus speaks in full on the subject. It is purely the war of flesh and spirit. Those hungry for bread for their bellies were of the flesh. Those hungry for God's spirit are filled by Jesus. They turn away, beecause they do desire flesh. The disciples follow because they desire eternal life. Jesus even says Himself, He speaks and feeds with Spirit.
@aldenjamal5637
3 жыл бұрын
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@leonardocaden8247
3 жыл бұрын
@Alden Jamal yup, I have been using InstaFlixxer for since november myself :)
@jadielmarvin6725
3 жыл бұрын
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@thinkconsider2639
3 жыл бұрын
How is moral bondage truly any different than physical bondage if we are just as incapable to unbind ourselves? Because we enjoy it? What if a paraplegic were to sometimes enjoy aspects of their inability to move such as being served by others and having reliable company? That makes them responsible to follow a command to walk? That’s ridiculous. And if you argue that we’re only responsible when it’s total and complete enjoyment, I would argue people don’t completely enjoy every aspect of “moral bondage” or mistakes they make in life especially when they come with repercussions. Also, what says we wouldn’t enjoy moral rightness even more than moral bondage? Can’t that be true of unbelievers who choose to enjoy the pleasures of loving and providing for their families instead of abandoning their families for hard drugs? If responsibility is based on enjoyment, then why is there such a spectrum when it comes to taking pleasure in morality? Furthermore, isn’t all enjoyment from moral bondage physical anyway since the enjoyment only exists because of dopamine which is a physical chemical?
@tonygardiner5585
9 ай бұрын
sir/mam the bible speaks about us being a slave to sin, with hearts of stone. just because you dont enjoy it all the time doesnt mean you are not still a slave.
@youngurbangod1156
5 жыл бұрын
How can we be accountable if God knows the choices we are going to make anyway? Yes we're free to make a choice, but if our choice is already decided, meaning that God knows our choices before we make them, then our choice is not real but an illusion!
@joshhiebert1208
5 жыл бұрын
The Bible is clear that we are accountable for our sin, but also clear about God's sovereignty, so the question you're really asking is how can us humans understand it
@maxmoseley7490
4 жыл бұрын
If you set a bowl of ice cream and a bowl of salad in front of a child, you know which one they will choose, but that doesn’t take away the child’s ability to choose which one he wants. Also if you record a football game to watch later and your friend accidentally tells you who wins, just because you know who won doesn’t mean that during the game each team didn’t have the same capabilities to win or lose. Simply knowing the future doesn’t take away somebody’s free will.
@godlessqueertheywarnedyouabout
4 жыл бұрын
@@maxmoseley7490 I used to believe that. Knowing the future may not take away free will, but creating every aspect of someone's being according to your particular blueprint and then putting them in a time and place on Earth where they live a life where every external influence comes from your script-and where you know them and everyone around them well enough that you know how they will react to every situation before it has happened, and what effects they will have on others, and whether everyone will succeed or fail this or that moral test before it happens-that really undermines the meaningfulness of free will. This essentially leaves us with Calvinism teaching that, in order to be omnipotent and omniscient, God must also be the ultimate author of evil and also created human souls that were predestined to go through a scripted life that leads to eternal torment in Hell. This is just a part of why I left religion.
@maxmoseley7490
4 жыл бұрын
Cooper Jacks I totally see where you are coming from! I have had the same thoughts at times. If I may, I’d like to offer my answer to that problem. It began by me asking what Gods ultimate purpose would be in creating humanity. As the absolute and objective creator of all things, He is the definition of both love and righteousness. And so in creating humanity, He desires all peoples to give him glory and to revel in Him. Much as John Piper writes in the beginning of his book Desiring God, this is the only right purpose God can have. It isn’t selfish but pure truth: if God is all that is right and good, we should obey Him and ESPECIALLY delight in Him. It should never be “religious, dogged obedience” with no heart to it. Anyway, if this is Gods ultimate goal to have people truly love Him they must have free will to do so because love is a choice as much as it is sacrifice. Now I know the idea now is “well it’s not really because we are simply a physical brain controlled by chemical reactions and a product of our surroundings” (Sorry this is so long by the way😂 I just hope this is something you haven’t heard yet). I think this line of thinking is wrong because it’s paradoxical. God’s undeniable purpose, should He exist, is for love and He can’t have that without free will. Also it made me ask, what would the world look like if we had no interactions that determined our identity? I think the answer is that God has created us but has not created our nature. If He created our inhibitions then that completely strips away our free will and ultimately is denying his own will (therefore paradoxical). That is why it is necessary for us to have a soul that is apart from physical reactions in the brain that tell us what to do like advanced AI. Now to our surrounds delegating our identity I think it is a combination between nature and nurture. If your father were to abuse you as a child, that is awful but it doesn’t mean that you now will have to abuse your own son. You now have a choice to be like your father or be dislike him. As a child, you have a conscience that tells you this violence is wrong even if you have not been told it by anybody. I think the more dire the situation, the more significance our decision has. In the same way we can choose to be like or dislike our father, the world gives us the option to be like or dislike it. Our situational time and place are merely a paper that we can write our response on. I mean this totally respectfully, but I do not think that religion is as simple as some people expect it to be. And logically, Christianity should not be simple. It’s not a set of laws to obey, it’s a relationship with a conscious being beyond our ability to comprehend. I think it is important to remember that we do have free will in this life. I could kill myself right now for no reason because I have free will. That would defy any form of logic or purpose to life. But you don’t see that because there is undeniable logic and purpose to life. My point is, we have free will. However we would have no right to tell the God who created us, “your way is wrong”, because He created us and can do literally whatever He wants with us. We DO have free will but in such a way that it does not compromise God’s own sovereignty over us. Ok. I’m sure I could go on forever but I don’t think anybody wants to read a novel by a stranger online. So I hope I helped a little bit or at least got you thinking differently. Sorry for the length and if you are at all interested in responding I’m down to have a chill debate over this. But if not I get it. God bless.
@ercm2393
4 жыл бұрын
Max Moseley sorry I want to follow what you wrote but it is wayyy too long and my attention span isn’t that good.
@twolak1972
Жыл бұрын
Our will is indeed free. We can either listen to God and follow his laws or FREELY choose to say no to him. Man possesses a freedom so radical he can freely choose his own destruction and God will honor hid free will even if it means ETERNAL SEPERATION from God in hell.
@normmcinnis4102
6 ай бұрын
There is lack of understanding the 'will' here.
@josephinebalbontin4301
3 жыл бұрын
well if you do not seem God then He wouldn't know what's going on in your head, that explains it, well the Lord is infinite and that we are not fit on understanding questions that an infinite God can only explain, which a finite kind cannot...
@katanderson1498
Жыл бұрын
God gave us free will to choose Him or not. If God had control over our choices it wouldn't be free will. He can influence us, but we make the choice. God made us in His image so we could have a true relationship with him, by our choice. That's why He didn't make robots that would do and say exactly as He wants. It would have been a fake relationship. Judas didn't believe. So, of course God didn't choose him, but it was Judas's choice. Who knows, just before he died, maybe he called to God and believed. Something was happening, otherwise why would he have gotten so upset. He was remorseful. We have to look at a whole chapter, not take one or two verses and create a concept that when we look at other verses doesn't make sense. We have to look at the whole picture. God knew we would go through pain and sin. That's why even before man was created He already decided that he would come to us as Jesus and suffer terribly for our sins. God is so holy that He can't look upon sin, that's why Jesus called to God on the cross with our sins crushing Him beyond our comprehension. That's why we tell Him that we're sorry for our sins and ask forgiveness. All we have to do is to seek Him with all of our hearts. He won't turn us down! It says that in the Bible. A word here and there does not take that from us. Thank you Jesus! We have children even though we know they will suffer and die one day. We are not holy on this earth, but it goes to show we were created in God's image so that, unlike a robot, we can chose Him by free will. If I didn't believe, these things alone would make me reconsider: Everyone knows that we can't make something out of nothing. We can't reach into thin air and make anything at all. So, of course, we didn't grow out of fungus or out of nothing. We were created. We were made out of dirt and when we die our bodies return to dirt. Our souls live on. If we study the intricate parts of our bodies and how everything works, we know that we were designed. Some scientists say there is a billionth (or whatever outlandish number they gave) of a chance that we came from nothing. And another scientist who believes says that, that would be like an explosion happening, and out of that explosion a house is created, with wiring and all. God wouldn't create us and leave us in the dark. That's why the Bible was written. It explains why we were created. The old testament was written for instruction, probably more for those in that time period. The old testament can be very difficult to comprehend, but when it's studied thoroughly, and with God in mind throughout every page, it becomes easier. If I didn't believe and looked up at the sky and thought about where it ends, I'd have to believe. Because I would know it can't end. Something else would have to take the place of space. Yes, God could make it so we couldn't go beyond a certain point, or that we couldn't see it. But, that would be the only possible way it wouldn't keep taking us on and on, like eternity, like God, and our souls. Some day it will all be clear.
@ronkebarber6238
Жыл бұрын
As accountable as the student that listened to the same teacher, teaching everyone the same subject, but refuses to study or do his homework, but now is crying foul for failing. He simply got what he chose. How's the teacher to blame? And why should the student who passed be responsible for his failure? Huh?
@codybest4806
11 ай бұрын
Thats not a good argumen t because according to Piper no student in there wants to learn or study. The only one who passes is whom the teacher chooses to enlighten
@ronkebarber6238
11 ай бұрын
@codybest4806 That's why everyone gets what's coming to them. They all reap as the have sown. No placing the blame on others, much less on the Lord!
@godlessqueertheywarnedyouabout
4 жыл бұрын
How can there be a meaningful distinction between natural inability and moral inability if God is ultimately in control? By this video's logic, you're not responsible for your sins if you don't have the ability or competence to act otherwise, but if you enjoy the sin, then you're responsible...even though this also presupposes that God created you (including your temperament and all your strengths and weaknesses) and every aspect of your life (affecting adjustments to your temperament and strengths and weaknesses) and is in ultimate control of your decisions. Calvinism argues that humans are totally depraved and do not seek God, that God predestines us for election or damnation, that we don't have free will, that God is the author of every influence that comes at us in life, that all the good we do is just God using us as puppets, apparently without our informed consent if we're so depraved and if God is so mysterious, and yet we're to blame for our sinfulness and deserve eternal torment for the way we were created.
@ercm2393
4 жыл бұрын
Cooper Jacks yeah this depresses me and makes my view of God and creation change so much.
@westb1028
4 жыл бұрын
Cooper Jacks Problem is the Arminian view says God can try all he wants to save you and can’t do it without your will. Meaning he isn’t sovereign and not in control. Which is a contradiction to the very essence of scripture. At certain points we have recognize our inability as finite beings to completely understand an infinite God. Think of it this way, The foundation or “umbrella” by which we view fee will is through God’s sovereignty. In other words, freewill is real, but God’s sovereignty is “realer.” Not an easy concept to grasp.
@westb1028
4 жыл бұрын
Eric Moore knowing God is I’m control should comfort you because you know he works all things for good for those who are called to His purpose, Romans 8:28.
@yitzharos
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this logic is paradoxic to actual Just God of the bible. For a man to be accountable, yet predestined is unjust. This man is author of confusion.
@stephanievandenberg5559
4 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the thing I struggle with too. I mean, God made us, so he made every aspect of who we are including our tendencies, etc. This is also described in Romans 9:16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden. 19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”[h] 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use? So basically what it says is that we shouldn't ask that question. Know that God is just en good and that he will reveal everything to us on the day that we will see Him. But I do find it hard, because it doesn't seem just to me. So my image of God is not correct, but I don't know how to change that. Right now I can't love God because all I feel is: Well, I didn't ask to be born, I didn't ask to have inherited sin, and I didn't ask for my weaknesses.
@1234dickinson
2 жыл бұрын
The doctrine of predestination is abominable, regardless how you view it.
@christianvega598
6 ай бұрын
The doctrine of predestination comes directly from scripture not from theologians. The word itself is found in the epistles. What is your view on this?
@TheSearcher24
5 жыл бұрын
Calvinists guess WHO'S qoute It is: THE QUOTE: "Man: In his primitive condition as he came out of the hands of his creator, man was endowed with such a portion of knowledge, holiness and power, as enabled him to understand, esteem, consider, will, and to perform the true good, according to the commandment delivered to him. 👉Yet none of these acts could he do👈, 👉except through the assistance of Divine Grace.👈 But in his LAPSED and sinful state, 👉man is NOT CAPABLE👈, of and by himself, either to think, to will, or to do that which is really good; but it is necessary for him to be REGENERATED and renewed in his intellect, affec- tions or will, and in all his powers, by God in Christ through the Holy Spirit, that he may be qualified rightly to understand, esteem, consider, will, and perform whatever is truly good. 👉When he is made a partaker of this REGENERATION or renovation👈, I consider that, since he is delivered from sin, he is CAPABLE of thinking, willing and doing that which is good, 👉but yet NOT WITHOUT the CONTINUED AIDS of DIVINE GRACE 👈." ANSWER choices: 1.)Augustine of Hippo 2.)John Calvin 3.)Jacob Arminius 4.)R.C Sproul 5.)A.W Tozer 6.)John MacArthur
@assyrianrelief
5 жыл бұрын
What's the answer?
@cmoneygiles
4 жыл бұрын
?
@TheSearcher24
4 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneygiles The statement below who's statement is this? "Man: In his primitive condition as he came out of the hands of his creator, man was endowed with such a portion of knowledge, holiness and power, as enabled him to understand, esteem, consider, will, and to perform the true good, according to the commandment delivered to him. 👉Yet none of these acts could he do👈, 👉except through the assistance of Divine Grace.👈 But in his LAPSED and sinful state, 👉man is NOT CAPABLE👈, of and by himself, either to think, to will, or to do that which is really good; but it is necessary for him to be REGENERATED and renewed in his intellect, affec- tions or will, and in all his powers, by God in Christ through the Holy Spirit, that he may be qualified rightly to understand, esteem, consider, will, and perform whatever is truly good. 👉When he is made a partaker of this REGENERATION or renovation👈, I consider that, since he is delivered from sin, he is CAPABLE of thinking, willing and doing that which is good, 👉but yet NOT WITHOUT the CONTINUED AIDS of DIVINE GRACE 👈." The statement above who's statement is this? ANSWER choices: 1.)Augustine of Hippo 2.)John Calvin 3.)Jacob Arminius 4.)R.C Sproul 5.)A.W Tozer 6.)John MacArthur
@cmoneygiles
4 жыл бұрын
Yea, we want to know who said this lol, are you gonna tell us? Was it Arminius?
@TheSearcher24
4 жыл бұрын
@@cmoneygiles well you got it right. Jacob Arminius was a calvinist, stated that John Calvin's Institutes should be read.
@westb1028
4 жыл бұрын
Question! So if babies aren’t accountable for choosing God or not, then wouldn’t the most humane thing you could do be to kill them so they go to heaven? I think that blows a hole in this argument. 😬
@joelyons8238
3 жыл бұрын
You need to spend sometime read (Proverbs 6:17), & I mean spend some serious time in just that one verse until you get it. Amen. God Bless You, May You Truly Start To Understand God's Truth & Not Your Own Understand. Also Read (Proverbs 3:5). Amen.
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