If "Slaves and Masters" is your favorite Deep Purple album, you are a Rainbow fan.
@phillipanderson7398
Жыл бұрын
A Deep Rainbow fan hoping that one day Ian Gillan will leave Deep Purple and Joe Lynn Turner will join them again.
@atmaweapon2803
Жыл бұрын
100 percent. It feels like the fourth Joe Lynn Turner Rainbow album.
@b.g.5869
Жыл бұрын
@@atmaweapon2803 Exactly.
@jacksprat4037
Жыл бұрын
thats really funny
@dmg8028
Жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂
@danielwolski873
Жыл бұрын
Child In Time is a masterpiece.
@franciskocher200
Жыл бұрын
👍
@phillipanderson7398
Жыл бұрын
the original track from In Rock. The re-make not so much.
@ilj1259
Жыл бұрын
So does this mean your not a fan of Deep Purple??
@franciskocher200
Жыл бұрын
@@phillipanderson7398 a re-make?
@phillipanderson7398
Жыл бұрын
@@franciskocher200 The Ian Gillan Band re-made Child In Time in 1976. It was also the title of their first album.
@danielwolski873
Жыл бұрын
I think the reason why the first Van Halen album is regarded so highly is because this was something we haven't heard before, it was something new and a guitar player that didn't sound like any body else.
@ericdinse5047
Жыл бұрын
Agreed ! The 1st album hit so many people right away that as a fan you can enjoy but still enjoy the way the band progressed. My favorite is "Fair Warning" but that first record was so great & still holds up.
@stereo999
Жыл бұрын
yeah the memory of hearing VH1 when it first came out is what makes it my favorite
@elbib2446
Жыл бұрын
it gets everything right,production is spot on,it comes flying out of the speakers,and the sub atomic guitar sound,and the band sound,fresh,hungry and ready to kill
@JoeDibiase386
Жыл бұрын
Maybe its because it IS their best album. In my opinion the never topped it. And by the way, I’m NOT a Van Halen fan. To prove the point.
@perpetualmotion357
Жыл бұрын
@@JoeDibiase386 I agree. I'm not a huge VH fan either but I think it's their best one.
@Arutha_Con_Doin
Жыл бұрын
The first album that comes to my mind in this discussion is Metallica's Black Album. That album changed a lot in the Metal community back in the day. Up until that point Metallica were the heroes for almost every metalhead. Nothing they did was questioned whatsoever. Even when they produced this huge and expensive video for the rather unusual "One", every fan could relate to that. But in 1991 things started to turn. The self titled fifth album split the fanbase like no other in the history of heavy metal. The one half worshiped that record the other half hated every single second. It became this huge discussion about sell out and becoming mainstream as a true metal band. Everybody had a Metallica shirt all of a sudden, radio stations played Nothing else matters and The Unforgiven in a loop, even at live shows you would see people that had absolutely no business at a metal concert and the whole world seemed to have become fans of Metallica over night. So i guess it's a fair question to someone who finds the black album to be his favorite, if he is a "real" fan of the band or just jumped on the hype train in '91.
@pvdguitars2951
Жыл бұрын
Albums: Roxy Music : Avalon Kiss : Dinasty BOC: Fire of unknown origin David Bowie: let’s dance Fleetwood Mac: rumors Frank Zappa : joe’s garage Songs: Van Halen : jump Extreme: more than words Kansas: dust in the wind
@mattwhite7995
Жыл бұрын
Not a bad song or album among the ones you've listed (except maybe Dynasty, but I don't like Kiss to begin with).
@maxthepupp
Жыл бұрын
Damn, bro... Rumours?!?😳 Tough crowd.
@cylonred8902
4 ай бұрын
My first and only BOC album I own... :) I REALLY hate "Jump", Most of Joe's Garage is great and so is - "You are What You Is"
@billymac72
Жыл бұрын
I can speak to the Grateful Dead thing. Many of my friends got into them in the 80’s, probably because we’re in that age cohort. But it still blows me away how myopic many’s perspective is today, 30 years later. I was not a huge dead head in the 80s and got into them because I joined a tribute band (handling the Bob role). I was absolutely blown away by their earlier to mid 70s stuff as well as the contributions from a character named Pigpen, who I classify into the Blind Owl Wilson and/or John Fahey school of blues knowledge. I dig later stuff, but I do not drift to late 80s/early 90s when I listen. First of all, the keyboard sound is very “80s” and Bob’s guitar can barely be heard. Jerry’s once beautiful voice gets quite weak as well. I’m reminded of how my age group considers the Beatles as well. It’s all post Revolver or so with very little consideration for the great stuff they did before. I admit, the later stuff is maybe more contemporary to our ears, but it shouldn’t cancel out the pre-66 stuff.
@glennandadriansrocktalk
Жыл бұрын
Same. I played keyboards in a GD tributes for a few years, more like Keith than anyone else. It took me decades to warm up to the 80s, and I still can't do beyond 1990. And early Beatles is almost a different band, a real powerhouse.
@spaghetti.lee-69
Жыл бұрын
Full disclosure: saw the Dead over 120 ×.... thiers " Deadheads" today that have Never Seen Jerry... I Love that.. The " Dead " is still my most Listened to Band.. Timeless & Classic.
@garyjoyce2160
Жыл бұрын
Thanks again to. Martin/ Pete. You guys make. Friday AM in NJ 🇺🇸. Great 👍 💯
@michaelvandiver2475
Жыл бұрын
Pete!....love Journey's debut AND Look into the Future and Next are solid too! I go back to those 3 more than Infinity - Escape, although Infinity is a classic. Big fan of Ansley Dunbar's and absolutely love Gregg Rolie's vocals, so guess that's why I gravitate to the first 3...so many of my friends dismiss them without giving them a chance. I will say that I like the Perry and Steve Smith era too up through Escape, just love the vibe and prog style of the first 3.
@grumqa
Жыл бұрын
Those albums were really good. Definitely underrated, prefer them to the later stuff for sure.
@boomer3150
6 ай бұрын
@@grumqa Same here.
@NelsonMontana1234
Жыл бұрын
I do believe the "slick" version of Chicago was also adventurous and complex, yet in a way that was just the right amount of modern sensibility. But yes...in retrospect, the first few albums still hold up. Those sound "of a time." I'd also say that if you prefer any YES album after Going For The One, you aren't a real YES fan.
@johnkatsoudas4767
Жыл бұрын
I am surprised that Pete didn't mention the band Whitesnake. There are basically two different eras of Whitesnake. The very bluesy era from the late 70's through the early 80's, and the Hard Rock/ Glam metal era that started in the late 80's. My favorite Whitesnake album is the 1987 self titled album, but I also love albums like Trouble,Ready An Willin, Saints And Sinners, and Love Hunter alot which is from their Bluesy era. There are some Whitesnake fans that most likely never listened to their Bluesy era because it was never popular in America. It is very different than their Hard Rock/Glam Metal era , but just as amazing in my opinion.
@ForevrrFury
Жыл бұрын
My mom knows I like Yes a lot and she seems to like them a decent amount. I was buying some CDs like Relayer and The Yes Album and she asked me why I wasn't getting "the one with the numbers". Really makes you realize how huge of a difference in sound those eras are and how the people that found them with 90125 often have no clue about the 70s stuff. I played her a bit Sound Chaser and she wasn't very fond of it, granted I had no clue what was happening when I first heard it as well. She's a very casual fan of the 80s stuff and I don't want to end up "ruining" that by talking down on that stuff even if I don't think it even compares to the earlier stuff or represents what Yes is really about
@handebarlas6248
Жыл бұрын
I love Yes too, but only the Jon Anderson era. That band is Yes for me...
@SwanShadow
Жыл бұрын
I'm with Pete -- Low Budget is my favorite Kinks album too. It's smack in the middle of their great five-album run that began with 1977's Sleepwalker and ends with 1983's State of Confusion. I have had many discussions with a rock-star friend of mine who argues that The Kinks' great stuff is their work from the late '60s into the mid-'70s, when they were doing a lot of complex, experimental, theatrical material. But as Pete says, I like what I like, and what I like is '77-'83 Kinks, of which Low Budget is a shining example.
@tonyghicks01
Жыл бұрын
This conversation is pointless, and can NEVER have a resolution or an absolute fact. Which, BTW, is a reason I LOVE this channel, and LOVE these rabbit hole videos with Pete and Martin. We are(all) determining what makes a REAL fan...I freakin love it. Nice. Nice. VERY nice!
@caramanico1
Жыл бұрын
Martin, I couldn't agree LESS! What you've done is eliminate the bands/artists that had long careers and grew/changed as their time period moved along. To wit, I present The Top Three (in no specific order): 1) Page formed Zeppelin purposefully with a mix of great musicianship and varied backgrounds/experience. He's noted for saying that "we could have done a Pentangle-type thing until I got Robert and heard Bonham". Also, Zeppelin's albums were statements of where they were at the moment. 2) The Fab Four. They went from Please Please Me to Abbey Road in six years. No agenda, just two of the best rock songwriters in history pushing each other and acting as b_______t detectors for each other. 3) Elton was the most versatile of all - started solo with backing musicians and a lyricist, then added a rhythm section, then added a guitarist, then put the word "Band" after his name while changing almost everybody and expanding with more musicians, then went solo with backing musicians again no ("Band"), changed lyricists, then changed everybody out again over time (with a couple of repeats, some coming and going and coming and going...) while going back to his original lyricist eventually while settling into a set of backing musicians. No one album or song from these artists/bands comes close to what they were "all about." The common threads are superb musicianship/songwriting and growing/changing.
@danielwolski873
Жыл бұрын
A Canadian example of sounding like where they're from is The Tragically Hip. A huge band here in Canada, still played on the radio all the time and everybody here loves them but most of the world don't know who they are.
@zingpulse4138
Жыл бұрын
The Hip are Canada's biggest in Canada only band of all time. The Band, Rush, The Guess Who, BTO, April Wine, Bryan Adams etc. are all bigger globally but the Hip sold out coast to coast when they toured here as if they were on the same level.
@danielwolski873
Жыл бұрын
@@zingpulse4138 For sure.
@bigj4426
Жыл бұрын
In my opinion there are a few more that came to mind for me: -AC/DC: For those who came on board with Back in Black. I mean I am not shitting on that album because I like it and all, but those but those albums after Highway to Hell are not as good as the Bon years. -Metallica: Black Album. This one I am guilty of. However, it opened the door for me to go back years later for the albums before it, and now the Black Album is like my fifth or sixth favorite. -The Cars: Heartbeat City. Guilty on this one too. Lots of radio hits on here, but pales in comparison to the first two albums. -Dire Straits: Brothers in Arms. Same as the Cars pick, except I got my intro to them with the live Alchemy album. -Judas Priest: British Steel. Not denying the greatness of this album because it has some of my favorites but I like the earlier ones a bit more. -ZZ Top: Eliminator. Again, not a bad album. Many people got into the band with this albums and the videos that came with it, but albums like “Tres Hombres” “Deguello” before it and ones after like “Rythmeen” I prefer. Great show as usual! 🤟😎🤟
@JoeDibiase386
Жыл бұрын
Yes Drama is a good example of Martins member argument. And it is my favorite Yes album
@jameshunter7303
Жыл бұрын
You two should do a whole show on bands that didn’t breakout of their own territory, specifically US/U.K. bands that this applied to.
@giles7662
Жыл бұрын
I've always though that people who have 'Trash' as their favourite Alice album, don't really like the essence of Alice Cooper.
@alexandercaviedes2559
Жыл бұрын
I would think it's 'Flush the Fashion', his punk-style album. It's my favorite, but I like several of his other 70s albums.
@joniturbe7535
Жыл бұрын
I agree. I could even argue that those who say "Constrictor" or "Raise Yer Fist And Yell" are their favorites might not be Alice fans. In the sense of they are definitely more straight forward but far less imaginative. When the great thing about Alice is precisely the uniqueness of the whole concept. Nobody sounds like Alice Cooper. And I think the albums we're talking about could have been recorded by any other artist and it wouldn't make much difference.
@alexandercaviedes2559
Жыл бұрын
@@joniturbe7535 that's a good point. other bands could have done these, and they still would have been pretty good
@joniturbe7535
Жыл бұрын
@Alexander Caviedes The point for me is that while "Flush The Flashion" (or the whole so-called blackout era) may be so different from the rest of the catalog, Alice was still dangerous, puzzling and unique. I think almost all real Alice Cooper fans love these four albums.
@alexandercaviedes2559
Жыл бұрын
@@joniturbe7535 I am a bit younger, growing up in the 70s, so I may not have an accurate picture of how huge he was back in the day. He was probably considered such a mainstream big-time star that most punk fans would not have gravitated toward his albums, even if the music was to their liking. But, I agree, always dangerous, puzzling and unique!
@johnx1769
Жыл бұрын
Great choice selecting Damnation by Opeth. It followed Opeth's heaviest period, so it definitely caught some people by surprise. One correction though, Damnation was released 5 months after Deliverance in April 2003.
@jamesgriffithsmusic
Жыл бұрын
Love these discussions guys, thanks. I sometimes think that 'Secret Messages' is my favourite ELO album.
@seanswinton6242
Жыл бұрын
I can see that. That ELO album was their MTV album to me. It was the very first ELO album I bought. It wasn't until I listened to others that I decided ELO had better albums. It was my full introduction to them making "Secret Messages" my favorite.
@AverageJoeDoh
Жыл бұрын
I like "Time" and "Discovery" so much that I feel guilty for liking them :)
@cylonred8902
4 ай бұрын
@@AverageJoeDoh Out of the Blue was my first album of any kind where I liked EVERY song. I played Time incessantly on the bus in high school (mid-80s). I like Secret Messages but no where near the others. And I love several of the deep cuts like "Julie Don't Live Here" and "Latitude 88 North"... Armchair Theater is pretty good as well but I would consider Balance of Power to be better than Sceret Messages.
@joeylyons4549
Жыл бұрын
Man I can't believe what Martin said about Def Leppard. That was the first band I thought of when I saw this topic. I am truly THAT GUY who likes the first TWO and that's it. I can literally recall my senior year of high school when Pyromania came out I was really bummed. And you can only imagine my disgust at the ones after THAT. They went into the shit pile in my opinion after HIGH N DRY
@rodsmolter5046
Жыл бұрын
High n Dry is by far the best but Pyromania is fantastic too. Jus skip the overplayed hits like Photograph and Rock of Ages and listen to the true gems like Coming Under Fire and Action not Words
@joncbartlett
Жыл бұрын
Pyromania is okay but I never listen to it. I absolutely love the first two and if I have to choose my favorite is whichever one I’m listening to at the time.
@nuffsaid783
Жыл бұрын
Let It Go is my favorite Def Leppard song !!
@mcsmoothie7052
Жыл бұрын
I like melodic, catchy hard rock music so this is me with so many bands. When I saw the Celtic Frost video for Cherry Orchards on MTV back in the day, I was like “ this song is awesome “ and bought the album. Still like Cold Lake but nothing else by them. Also Load and Reload are unapologetically my favorite Metallica albums, although I do like songs of theirs from other albums also. Youthenasia is my favorite Megadeth album. Trash is the only Alice Cooper album I really enjoy, which I think is a better example than Martin’s. I also really only enjoy the debut Rush album from top to bottom. No, I swear I’m not trolling here. 😂🤣
@jayneptune2568
Жыл бұрын
My second favourite Yes album is 'Drama' (after 'The Yes Album'). And I like Trevor Rabin just as much as Steve Howe. So guess I'm not a hardcore Yes fan, though I own 9 albums? Great video and discussion, really has me thinking...!
@greengrass1072
Жыл бұрын
I got into Yes because of Trevor (GREAT Guitar player and singer) and the rest of the “YesWest” lineup. It made me go and buy most of the stuff from the 70’s and I love most of that.
@rogertemple7193
Жыл бұрын
Another Friday morning with Pete and Martin Watching here from Southern Oklahoma and it has been storming with rain, thunder and lightning and today with high winds have a great day and a great show 😊😊 🎤🎸🎸🎹🥁
@jmacallar
Жыл бұрын
Queen II comes to mind for me….another great discussion lads! You guys even do a great job at the weather forecast! Keep up the great work!
@russw3736
Жыл бұрын
Good example, I really like Queen II and don't really like any other Queen.
@jmacallar
Жыл бұрын
@@russw3736 …I’m a big Queen fan but I certainly understand if you like Queen II or Queen I that you wouldn’t like the rest of their catalogue….those records are more rockers and much less eclectic….I enjoy all their music….enjoy your day!
@dennisazzopardi2089
Жыл бұрын
The Cars and Boston Debut are there Best.
@albertoramirez6388
Жыл бұрын
Precisionness, extraness... this channel is expanding my vocabulary 😁 Seriously, though, thanks for the entertaining discussion, gents.
@HeidJack
Жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen mention of Aerosmith. My sister-in-law loves Steven Tyler and the whole “Pump” and “Get a Grip” era, but never heard of “Toys In The Attic” or “Draw The Line.” Even now, she makes a face when I play those songs.
@stuartfeigley
Жыл бұрын
Looks like "I'm that guy." The first Def Leppard album is my favorite.of theirs. High & Dry is a close second. Liked Pyromania at the time, but not so much now. Not a fan of anything after that. On Through The Night captured the sound/feel/spirit of the NWOBHM movement and is a classic!
@mcsmoothie7052
Жыл бұрын
I count myself in the “ 1st 3 albums only” camp of Def Leppard fandom as well.
@billnole2188
Жыл бұрын
I've noticed that there are many times that the 1st album by a band may be my favorite. My thought is that it took more time and effort and needed to be great. If successful, the record company probably pushed the band to repeat. That's why there's such a thing called the "sophomore slump".
@mattwhite7995
Жыл бұрын
But sometimes the first album is a dud and the second is a vast improvement. Judas Priest and Van Morrison come to mind. Bands don't always find the optimal sound on the first try.
@ametalman66
Жыл бұрын
For many years Motörhead’s Another Perfect Day was the only Motorhead album I owned but I dug them from the first time I heard Ace of Spades. I was just so into Maiden, Judas Priest and the first 2 Ronnie James Dio’s Sabbath albums I did not buy the first 4 Motorhead albums until I had bought APD and then the 2nd Motorhead album I bought was Iron Fist which is my favorite Motorhead album. I know it is crazy but that is how it happens for me.
@orlandomoshpit9718
Жыл бұрын
No, it's not crazy. Everyone has different tastes in music. I'm a big Motörhead fan but my favorite Motörhead records are not the first 4-5 albums. If I had to do a top 3 I think I would go with Rock n Roll, 1916 and Sacrifice.
@brucybabyy7355
Жыл бұрын
Wait a minute pre April fools?
@jimekberg
Жыл бұрын
@@orlandomoshpit9718 Rock n Roll is the worst album but Just cuz you got the power is a great song (but it´s not on the album).
@orlandomoshpit9718
Жыл бұрын
@@jimekberg Worst in your opinion. I don’t think Motorhead have a bad album, only albums that are better than other albums.
@andrewcarr5923
Жыл бұрын
An example of a true fan is someone who loves a band even when they put out a fan splitting album and they still buy it and give it a chance, obvious examples being Queen - Hot Space Kiss - The Elder Judas Priest - Nostradamus.
@jake6887
Жыл бұрын
Metallica has a pre-1991 audience, a post-1991 audience, fans who like everything and people who never cared for it. Despite the black album being released 32 years ago, many fans from the very beginning have still not been able to accept the style changes of the group, but still consider themselves real fans
@petebrown3715
Жыл бұрын
Great show Pete and Martin. Fun show today.
@purpletemple1
Жыл бұрын
I think there's a difference between "That's my fav album from that band but I love/ like the rest" and "That's my fav album from that band and that's all". If you take the first option then you're a fan of the band, if you take option #2, then you're a fan of the album. Strange conversation...strange kind of conservation I should say... Cheers.
@kevinpeterson6468
Жыл бұрын
If Piper at the Gates of Dawn is your favorite Pink Floyd album are you a Pink Floyd fan or are you a Syd Barrett fan only?
@winstonsyme5899
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I consider myself a Pink Floyd fan, but only like the Dark side, wish you were here Animals and the Wall.
@bernardmaasdijk734
Жыл бұрын
This was a really nice discussion. Funny thing is that Van Halen's debut is my favourite of them and Women and Children First is in the second spot. And I now know I'm not a fan of Def Leppard apparently. But I love their first three albums.
@davidgray2075
Жыл бұрын
You like what you like, and don't like what you don't like, be it music, films or food.
@snagmansnagman4087
Жыл бұрын
Is it just me that Martins camera angle makes him look a bit like Max Headroom from the 80s.
@johnmichaelwilliams6694
Жыл бұрын
Popoff and Pardo are at it again and what an interesting topic. As someone who keeps listening to Opeth trying to expand my listening but only owns Damnation at this time- guilty as charged, Pete. An interesting and fun discussion which helped make the day better. An artist who falls into this is Todd Rundgren - either solo or in the band Utopia - as there are so many styles and types of music he makes and depending on what you like, you might not be a Todd Rundgren fan using the criteria here. It's typically has bee the albums of his that are not favorites that another Todd fan will question. Thanks again, gents. There ya go!
@jeffreyrobinson9120
Жыл бұрын
My favorite Rush album is their first one. It`s not because I don`t like Neil Peart, I just think it rocks harder than anything they did after it.
@rodsmolter5046
Жыл бұрын
It's a great album. I think it has some of Alex's best guitar work. I do like 2112, Moving Pictures and Hemispheres better.
@jacobwhitehead1926
Жыл бұрын
Have you listened to the Clockwork Angels album? You’d probably enjoy it if you like their debut album. It has some real heaviness to it. Headlong Flight might be their hardest rocking song!
@johnburton894
Жыл бұрын
Hello from the UK 🇬🇧. Interesting show this and concept. I'm a massive Hawkwind fan and for me it's impossible to choose any album or track as my favourite. I must have 40 odd albums and I pick anyone and just listen to it. In my humble opinion they have never made bad album to me they're all great. 🤘🤘🤘
@handebarlas6248
Жыл бұрын
How nice! I don't listen to them, but I like your attitude. Great. I listen to 70s and 80s British bands. I'm a hardcore Jethro Tull fan. But I also like Genesis, Pink Floyd, Led Zepp etc..but I do not think all of their albums are good, or as good. Perhaps I should listen harder, or I should try Hawkwind...🙂 ( by the way, I will as I never have). Hello from Turkey. 🌍☮
@tubetea
Жыл бұрын
Back in the olden days I had a friend who was as big a Hawkwind fan as you could find, I hated them! I couldn't understand how anybody could like Hawkwind. Flash forward about 30 years and I'm at work and had discovered that online music site called Slacker, it worked like Pandora but you could find any song you could even think of on Slacker. One day I decided to listen to Hawkwind because I had heard the song " Hurry On Sundown " and was actually surprised that it was Hawkwind that did that song. I listened to them all day long that day and have to admit I like most every thing they did now, Weird how your music tastes change over the years.
@giles7662
Жыл бұрын
I got tagged along to a Europe gig in the 90s thinking they were 'glammy' pop rock and got a big surpise - hard, heavy metal in biker leathers with no hair spray at all!!
@seanswinton6242
Жыл бұрын
True. They glammed up for the MTV video years. I remember hearing their early John Norum stuff thinking they radically changed.
@nickvickers3486
Жыл бұрын
Similar here, picked up a double cd best of and was very pleasantly surprised, Europe are a hard rocking band!
@adamsmashups4839
Жыл бұрын
I'm a big Yes fan but God forbid I tell any one that I listen to 90125 and Big Generator ,more than I listen to Fragile or Close To The Edge.
@jydymyyyr9630
Жыл бұрын
Another example, at least for me, is the band Rush. My favorite albums are their first two; Rush (self-titled) and Fly By Night. These albums are drastically different from their big album sellers to come later. That being said, there is not a Rush album I dislike. In this case, I guess I'm a fan of the band but have odd (at least in most people's view) favorite choices. The albums I love are so great I can't help but also love the band and their other albums.
@seanswinton6242
Жыл бұрын
I agree. I'm like that on multiple bands. Bands evolve and if a person likes a particular "sound" that influences the album choice. Also many artists change their sound every album.
@tubetea
Жыл бұрын
I feel the same about the first two albums, but after that I lose interest in Rush, but I really like the first two, my favorite Rush songs ever is from 2112, the song called ' Lessons' I love that freakin' song.
@tubetea
Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, I wrote that wrong I guess, I'm not very keen on the first one but "Fly By Night" and "2112" are my favorites.
@jydymyyyr9630
Жыл бұрын
@@tubetea I fully understand... my introduction to Rush was 2112. I wasn't hooked initially but it grew on my.
@greengrass1072
Жыл бұрын
I love Rush, my favorite band. My two favorites are albums that a lot of people hate, Hold Your Fire and Presto.
@perpetualmotion357
Жыл бұрын
Was introduced to Maiden with 7th Son and passed on them for years because of it. I was just more into early thrash metal, Sabbath and AC/DC. When I heard the first two albums with Di'anno it blew me away. I think the self titled and Killers are the best thing they ever done. They'd probably be one of my favorite bands if they kept Paul and made a few more albums in the same vein as the first two.
@redcat9436
Жыл бұрын
Paul's albums with Battlezone and Killers are really good too.
@mattwhite7995
Жыл бұрын
I adamantly agree about the debut. I'm not real big on Killers, but Adrian sounds impressive out of the starter gate. Many of the songs were written before their first album, like Purgatory and Wrathchild, and you can hear the unfortunate toll Paul's alcoholism was taking in the increasing incoherency of the vocals. He had a magnetism that Bruce lacks. It's not that Bruce isn't riveting; he is, but in a different way. Paul had a wild unpredictability about him that a small handful of uninhibited rock greats like Morrison, Lydon, and Axl exhibit. I don't think you would have loved him if he'd stuck around until Seventh Son and chances are he would have died, but he gave the world two exciting metal records at a time when the possibilities of the genre seemed endless.
@perpetualmotion357
Жыл бұрын
@@mattwhite7995 I agree with about everything you said. Their debut is definitely my favorite between the two of them, which I find it kind of odd that it seems Killers gets more praise among the fans (so does the Bruce era so I guess it doesn't mean much) but their self-titled album absolutely crushes, song after song. Maybe it has the thinner production out of the two but with songwriting as good as that it doesn't matter to me. It's like a greatest hits album. No doubt Paul wouldn't have lasted up to 7th Son, I just wish they would've banged out a couple more with him and I'd be content. He most definitely had that something that I don't see or hear from Bruce. Paul was a lot more unique, from his appearance to his vocals. I just read an article a couple weeks ago talking about how James Hetfield and Billy Gibbons are huge fans of the Paul era and the only Maiden that they listen too. That's not the first time I've heard that coming from people in the scene.
@mattwhite7995
Жыл бұрын
@@perpetualmotion357 I wouldn't write off the Bruce era. There are some undeniably great classics there. I even think there are some good songs on Blaze's "The X Factor" that take Maiden in a darker direction than they've been on since Killers. Aftermath and Fortunes of War seem much more legit as social commentary than, say, Fear Is the Key. As someone whose favorite metal album is the debut, I will say Bruce doing Paul's stuff is not what I want to hear. I thought Running Free was one of the worst songs I'd ever heard because I was introduced to it via Live After Death. But with Paul, Clive, and Dennis, it's another story. Now it's one of my ten favorites, along with three other tracks on the same album. Pretty cool that Billy Gibbons loves that stuff! As far as production goes: A. That vinyl costs an arm and a leg. I own a CD reissue and B. When did we decide that we all need Brian Eno's ears to love music? Who cares if the production is great? I don't need my Sex Pistols to sound like Moby.
@paradoxofepicurus
5 ай бұрын
The Black Album Dio - Angry Machines and Magica (Love them) Bad Brains - Rise Dismember - Massive Killing Capacity
@Brian-jv5me
Жыл бұрын
Good day Pete and Martin - interesting topic today! Thanks for the show.
@carl-johanfougstedt199
Жыл бұрын
This is a highly interesting discussion, but personally I don´t think that it´s important at all if I´m a true fan of a certain band or if I´m not. I like what I like.
@allthatyoutouch3164
Жыл бұрын
I can be a Black Sabbath fan and still say that "Mob Rules" is a great album.
@LarryFleetwood8675
Жыл бұрын
My fav along with Vol. 4, the best of both worlds.
@mainzergirl9610
Жыл бұрын
You better!
@rodsmolter5046
Жыл бұрын
That's because Mob Rules is indeed a great album. All the Dio/BS albums are great, especially Heaven and Hell.
@itsmedrooms6071
Жыл бұрын
There are very few bands where I like a majority or all of their catalog so I guess I don’t care whether someone defines me as a fan or non-fan, I like what I like and for a lot of groups that’s half or less than half of their music. I mean a lot of bands are only good for only a couple of albums, but it’s all subjective anyway and I’m way to picky to go all the way into a band that has stayed beyond the limit of having anything more to say, but again it’s just what you like and there are exceptions. Using your definitions, I guess you could say I’m more a fan of albums rather than bands in most cases.
@mbgaomo
Жыл бұрын
Word Of Mouth is a great later Kinks album and as an American, I too love the later Kinks.
@markc5771
Жыл бұрын
I love that album. I'm a huge huge Kinks fan from all era's except for the pre Village Green Kinks. I. like that era but not in love with it.
@andyshelton4889
Жыл бұрын
I’m a big fan of Europe, I love Andorra!😀❤️
@BlindArthurBlake
Жыл бұрын
Killers was my favorite Iron Maiden album. Guilty, I guess
@franciskocher200
Жыл бұрын
My favorite Iron Maiden is the first one
@Rockerlady
Жыл бұрын
@@franciskocher200 ❤❤❤
@rodsmolter5046
Жыл бұрын
Mine too! Nothing against Bruce but Killers is just their best album start to finish(no bad songs) plus I like how dark it sounds. Their first 5 albums were all great. Somewhere in Time was good but started a downslide IMO but they are still putting out some good stuff.
@Drumdude74
Жыл бұрын
My favorite Rush album is the 1st one but many a person think it isn't Rush, because Neil wasn't in the band yet or it wasn't full on prog yet. I love all the 70's and 80's albums, even the newer stuff is pretty good. I just love that first one the most but I am a fan of the " REAL " Rush. Great show guys!
@flrpitflrp1965
Жыл бұрын
I love On Through the Night, and I am not a fan of Def Leppard. You are correct
@LarryFleetwood8675
Жыл бұрын
I guess it's so, my fav too so with Mutt they simply changed musically so much they perfected it with Pyromania a style they've been copying ever since, in many ways that third album was a brilliant one-off (stroke of luck?) where the musical approach clicked and ticked all boxed, everything coming after it were (even more) overproduced imitations...
@FalseTrump
Жыл бұрын
My favorite Queensryche is The Warning
@franciskocher200
Жыл бұрын
Mine too👍
@davehodson6288
Жыл бұрын
I'm a massive queensryche fan and the warning is easily my most played record by them good call
@adamsmashups4839
Жыл бұрын
My favorite metal album
@durvalrodrigues9741
Жыл бұрын
One more thing I would like to add is David Bowie, some people love the hits but my love for Bowie is the early releases, same applies to Peter Gabriel when most of my friends love his pop hits and claim to have him as their favorite artist but never realized he sang for Genesis.
@flyerbob7525
Жыл бұрын
I remember we used take our cars out into the woods and party all night with great tunes I rember Child in TIME playing and I just gazed into the night skies it was Magic I wish I could go back to those days
@blorthalf7561
Жыл бұрын
Great show as always guys!! Like someone said below, drama is also one of my favorite yes albums but I love all the early stuff, however lots of things were going on in my life at that time (19 yrs old) so the album really resonated with me at that time and has stuck with me through the years, so I imagine personal experiences can have a lot to do with your likes/dislikes even though you love the band
@Ninjabadger76
Жыл бұрын
Martin prefaced a comment that it would make a good show. The comment was that a track that may be a bit different can sometimes make people believe that it indicative of the entire album though in fact it wasn't. I would agree that would be a great future episode.
@reckia
Жыл бұрын
If Who Dunnit? is your favorite Genesis song, then your name is either Tony Banks or Phil Collins!
@samuelheldilaof6361
Жыл бұрын
Some of the artists/Bands where I like anything they released is David Bowie, SKOLD or where certain persons is involved ; Chris Goss, Martin Gore, John Paul Jones, Alain Johannes, Josh Homme, Alan Wilder, Midge Ure, Bozzio etc
@hship9206
Жыл бұрын
Great discussions, keep up the ytube. It does not go un-appreciated. Thanks Guys.
@jasoneubank514
Жыл бұрын
I am guilty when it comes to Chicago my favorite songs comes from the albums 16,17,18.19 but I do like some of the songs from the albums that come before them.
@daicullinane7746
Жыл бұрын
Maybe people just love the songs on these albums more than others? Another Perfect Day was the 2nd Motorhead album I ever heard. Full of killer songs: Dancing on your Grave, One Track Mind and Shine, to name a few. If you only like Kiss with Bob Ezrin, then you should also like The Elder.
@dtltmtgt
Жыл бұрын
Martin's comment on the advance single effect or one song maybe coloring people's view on a whole album, when that song is a outlier. Worth exploring more I think.
@docdeens4030
Жыл бұрын
I like the Dio era of Sabbath and the Coverdale era of Deep Purple more than the more famous eras. I've been told I'm not a real fan of either band. Usually by people who are only into the hits of both bands. I consider myself more of a fan, simply because I've listened so much to both that I'm burnt out on the popular eras; possibly for life....
@nickvickers3486
Жыл бұрын
Stormbringer is a fantastic Purple album! I think that if Dio era Sabbath had made 2 or 3 more albums of the same calibre off the back of HaH and MR, there would be a very good case, even though the Ozzy era is obviously great too, for that era to be the definitive one of the band. But don't worry if people don't like your opinions on this and stick to your guns!
@volsboy672
Жыл бұрын
Love the Earthless shirt. Now there's an ear melting rock band.
@lawrencefine5020
Жыл бұрын
i'm a music fan, not so much a band fan. If the music is good, I like it. If it sucks, it sucks. Bands will break your heart if you invest your all into a band and like every album they release no matter if it sucks or not. Kiss is my ultimate example. Their last great album IMHO is Rock and Roll Over. Everything after that except maybe is Creatures of the Night...is trash. I moved on to Iron Maiden as my "favorite band", they also broke my heart when they released Powerslave, because I thought it was bloated, too long and my heart...broken again. Bands will always break your heart. Listen to the music and damn the band name. If it's good, it's good, if it sucks, it sucks. Lesson learned.
@alternativepreacher4516
Жыл бұрын
But what if there is a band where you love almost everything they've done ?
@lawrencefine5020
Жыл бұрын
@@alternativepreacher4516 Thats the key word.."almost". No band, not even the (imho) Beatles are not perfect. Even they released pure crap. I love that music is subjective and never objective. You have your personal taste and I will have mine, doesn't make me right, just opinionated. I think that Blackwater Park is near perfection, doesn't make me right..but damn close. Even Opeth broke my heart with their last 4 releases. I hated all of them. But from Orchid to Watershed, to me it was near perfection. I guess that make's me an Opeth fan... Or not.
@denphillips3402
Жыл бұрын
For me it's a case of Horses for Courses... That's the beauty of it... Musical tastes are purely subjective ! I also believe that timing is important.. ie.. when you discover a band.. not everyone joins a party from their outset... I was introduced to Purple with Machine Head and that hooked me in, so it's really important to me.. I'd been oblivious to the changes in personnel at the time as I loved most of Burn, still do. I always LIKED (and there's the difference) Stormbringer, but title track aside, they were changing direction.. I find that 1976/77 was a critical time for many greats... Camel, ELP, Genesis, Floyd, Dan, Supertramp, Yes, Sabbath, Purple, Zeppelin... etc. They were ALL changing direction and became more accessible/commercial, thus losing a huge chunk of serious prog or hard/heavy rock... We are who we are and we like what we like. 🤔... A thought provoking post 👍
@leightonfarms4962
Жыл бұрын
Excellent show idea!! All in good fun.
@brucybabyy7355
Жыл бұрын
April fools!😂
@47Str8
Жыл бұрын
Great topic. I guess I'm not a Boston fan as I've never liked much after the first album.
@fourseasons4105
Жыл бұрын
1. Death- The sound of perseverance 2. Rush- Caress of steel 3. Pink Floyd- The final cut 4. Meshuggah- Contradictions collapse 5. Queen- Hot space 6. Gorillaz- The now now 7. Dillinger escape plan- Calculating infinity 8. Thin Lizzy- Thunder and lightning 9. Gojira- Magma 10. Kanye West- 808s & heartbreak
@RockaRolla6969
5 ай бұрын
Great episode! A lot to digest. I am homework listening...
@bobsala7780
Жыл бұрын
Great pick, Pete, with Damnation by Opeth. That was immediately what sprang to my mind when I heard what today's topic would be.
@DrJimmy88
Жыл бұрын
If Hold Your Fire is your favorite Rush album you don't hate Rush, you hate yourself 😅
@eldorado852
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment.
@1oriss
Жыл бұрын
It's not no1 but its high on my list, but I like those 80's albums that most people have a downer on, ps I don't hate myself but thanks for your concern.
@Stonky77
Жыл бұрын
It's my favorite not because it's their best but because it was released during a great time in my life.
@eldorado852
Жыл бұрын
@@1oriss It's not even too different from what they did before. It's not even part of the topic.
@greengrass1072
Жыл бұрын
I feel pretty good about myself and my other favorite is Presto.
@daviddrennon4089
Жыл бұрын
Journey: At 62, I am (or was) a Journey fan until Steve Perry joined the band and changed the "essence" of Journey. They sounded like a different band, and "NO" I don't have to like everything Journey does to be a Journey fan. And yes, Journey does some beautiful stuff with Perry and others, but it's not what I first heard from those guys who came out of Santana. I saw Journey when they released Infinity. They opened up for Utopia on the RA tour. Yes, they were great, but they were a new band still well rooted in their beginning . Utopia was amazing btw. My favorite Journey albums are equally the first release and Next. Look Into The Future seemed to be a search for what path they were deciding to go down. They were looking for a hit. On Next ... they bounced back to form. Their fusion sound was great but they needed to eat. Artistic Integrity goes only so far if you're getting hungry. Compromise settles in. Steve Perry arrived .... they now eat well. 😢 Thin Lizzy: Thunder And Lightning has Sun Goes Down ...... very traditional Lizzy song. Story telling and moody. Holy War and Thunder And Lighting IS very relatable to what I define as Thin Lizzy. This album has great guitar, bass and Lynott's trademark voice...like all Thin Lizzy albums. Phil was a story teller. Uriah Heep: Abominog ..... didn't like it when it came out. Bought it, got rid of it. It just wasn't Uriah Heep to me. Just seemed like they were just trying to cash in on that "Devil Metal" stuff they were never really a part of. Yes...there's good stuff on there but back then it was too harsh of a change to stomach. Grateful Dead ... Terrapin Station. When it came it out it was my favorite GD album at the time. Terrapin Flyer's Santana guitar style solo grabbed me and got my attention. But "NO". I was not a fan previously. I was listening to ELP, Yes, Sabbath, Purple, ABB, Heep, Edgar & Johnny Winter, old J Geils, Alice Cooper and such. Terrapin Station reintroduced me into the band and I fell in love with Anthem Of The Sun ..... then those extended jams. 200 + GD shows later and countless splinter bands later "YES" I am a fan. No I don't like everything they do. It's preference. QUEEN's first album is my favorite. My sister brought that home when I was 12. It was heavy and hard. Like the first Montrose album. ( I like everything Ronnie Montrose did ) Next two albums I didn't like the songs enough to keep them. Yes, II and Sheer Heart Attack had Ogre Battle, Brighton Rock and a few other dittys but they lacked the power of the first LP. Queen just got to Operatic for me. Sure I liked Bohemian Rhapsody and some of their later stuff but not enough to purchase. Innuendo, however, what a bookend. It was incredibly powerful. I bought that for the title song itself. I think a lot of it is this. When you're introduced to a band and like the particular style they happen to be demonstrating at the time, that is what you relate to and how you define that band/artist. Or how you dislike a band for that matter. That's what you become a fan of. You can be a fan of a band and a particular style they engage in without having to be a fan of everything they do. I am a fan of Rainbow w/Dio and Dougie White but don't like a lot of the other Rainbow. I am a fan of Deep Purple but not all of their configurations. You can be a fan of one era without having to like them all. I think.
@jameshuseby9931
Жыл бұрын
Great topic my pick is UFO II there last space rock love that album
@stephenbrown4211
Жыл бұрын
Here in the UK Whitesnake 1987. Not an album for the purists. Sorry Pete but the early stuff is what they were about. Born in the USA . Just because it was so huge. Everyone jumped on the bandwagon with that one then jumped off when Tunnel of Love came out. Agree with Europe, there early stuff is so much better
@lazarossamaras4427
Жыл бұрын
I like all Europe albums however different they are, and yes, Low budget by the Kinks is my favorite of them. I just don't get their early albums although we know the hits. There is no black and white when it comes to music. We like different things and that is the whole point.
@stevewhiteside4525
Жыл бұрын
On the song front the first thing I saw The Strawbs do was Part of the Union, a political singalong that your Mum and Dad liked. The next thing I saw them do was Lay Down and I was, oh ...
@davidgasten4361
Жыл бұрын
Got a few more. 1) If you only like THE BEACH BOY'S' "Pet Sounds" (1966) or THE KINKS' "Village Green Preservation Society" (1968), you might be an indie rock/hipster chic fan and not a BEACH BOYS / KINKS fan; 2) if you only like KISS "Creatures of the Night" (1982), you might be a hard rock/metal fan and not a KISS fan; and 3) going into songs, if you only like CYNDI LAUPER'S rendition of "He's So Unusual" (1983) and wish it was longer (hand raised), you might be a 20s jazz/Tin Pan Alley/vaudeville fan and not a Cyndi Lauper fan.
@pitanguirj
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Great show. I send u guys a lot of love from Brazil.
@wildbullfrog
Жыл бұрын
Hi Pete and Martin, my favourite Thin Lizzy album is Thunder and Lightning. And I regard myself a Thin Lizzy fan. I listened to all TL albums and I must say: This is the one. the last one is the best one for me. Live and Dangerous is pretty good, too. Greetings
@thomasbeck2934
Жыл бұрын
IMHO King Crimson is Robert Fripp. Whichever direction Fripp wanted to go King Crimson followed. So is King Crimson unlike Peter Gabriel in not so much an actual band but Fripp’s projects?
@arto2533
Жыл бұрын
Damnation (2003) came after Deliverance (2002) even though they were recorded at the same time. Blackwater Park was released in 2001.
@joncbartlett
Жыл бұрын
I only listen to On Through the Night and High N Dry, and when a couple of folks have asked if I like Def Leppard, I answer “well, I like the first two albums.”
@lateramae
Жыл бұрын
Great discussion guys! What a clever topic. It's like saying 'Rocka Rolla' is someone's favorite Judas Priest album.
@carlwalker4705
8 ай бұрын
It is my favourite Judas Priest album
@Jason-nn9pl
Жыл бұрын
I love that you brought up Iron Maiden & the love between Paul & Bruce, & I like both,but i had a so called Maiden fan named Ronald Eccles tell me that I wasn't a fan & shouldn't use the term because I didn't like the Blaze Bayley era of Maiden!!!! 😂
@frankstanovic4401
Жыл бұрын
Im picking mine before i watch the video. If u love Invisible Touch, ur probably not a die hard old school genesis fan. If u love Turbo by judas priest. Probably not a huge fan of classic priest. Pump by aerosmith or any 90s lps by them. Probably not the fan of the classic 70s aerosmith i love. Like Rocks , Toys . Line, Ruts . This isnt true in all cases, though. Gonna watch the video now to see what they say
@craigfowler100
Жыл бұрын
90125 my favorite Yes Album. Genesis - Genesis my favorite Genesis album. What can I say they are the albums of my time.
@daunslowspark4786
Жыл бұрын
Pete: You have to accept all of a band's albums to be a fan Pete (later): I don't get the Kinks early albums but I'm still a fan
@sotdude7
Жыл бұрын
You misunderstood what I said. I said I like all those early Kinks albums, but they aren’t my favorites, so perhaps I don’t truly get the Kinks like those who have been listening to them from the early days.
@mattwhite7995
Жыл бұрын
I don't think Pete ever believed you have to like an entire discography to be a fan. What band would have any? If he said that, it's something his actions have contradicted 1000 times over. It would be ridiculous to say he isn't a Sabbath fan, despite that he admits to not liking arguably their most quintessential song.
@stevecloutier8673
Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much this is determined by the first album people heard. Like Van Halen...if you heard the first album first maybe it becomes the favourite album because it was the album that got you into the band. April Wine's Stand Back remains probably my favourite album from them (or Harder...Faster). Stand Back was the first album I bought with my own money. I'd heard songs on the radio (started listening to them in the First Glance era), but this was the first album I bought. So, maybe there's a nostalgic value to the first album you heard. It also sets the band's sound in your head. It may not explain every example, but maybe there's a correlation.
@tombaranyai6683
Жыл бұрын
Martin is onto something with bands where you can't pick a favourite album. It would make a great topic for you guys to talk about. I agree totally about Van Halen being one. Free, Toto, Lynyrd Skynyrd and Peter Gabriel are like this for me.
@elfman5176
Жыл бұрын
The first Queen album is a masterpiece in my top 10 of all time greats Great vocals great guitars and hard rock But only in my opinion when they went pop/opera I wasn’t interested any more Although I never doubted their immense talent Just a different direction for me
@poliziagrammaticale9430
Жыл бұрын
Same here! Good comment
@elfman5176
Жыл бұрын
@@poliziagrammaticale9430 We used to blare that album in the car along with Secret Treaties
@greghansell5115
Жыл бұрын
Yes they changed direction a few times. I first found them with 'The Game' and certainly lost them with 'Hot Space' and in the time between those two I collected their back catalogue and loved everything they did with few exceptions.
@joniturbe7535
Жыл бұрын
This is a great topic! The first album that comes to my mind and for me is one of the clearest examples of this subjet is Rock & Roll Animal by Lou Reed.
@wernermoritz882
Жыл бұрын
Exactly!!! Great pick!
@jydymyyyr9630
Жыл бұрын
A favorite of mine is the Dire Straits self-titled first album; however, most people are more interested in their later albums which have a much different sound. I love every song on the first album, but I'm guessing most people probably only know the Sultans Of Swing track... possibly my least favorite track on the album. The first album is in my top 5 fav albums of all time, the other albums wouldn't even make my top 100. I love that first album but can't say I'm a fan of the band or their remaining albums... although I do like their Live At The BBC album, probably because it has many songs from that first album. Guess I'm a fan of an album, but necessarily the band!!!
@allthatyoutouch3164
Жыл бұрын
I love that album as well
@Jamie.Laszlo
Жыл бұрын
If Slaves and Masters is your favorite Deep Purple album I'm going to assume you like 80s Rainbow more than Deep Purple.
@franciskocher200
Жыл бұрын
I like Rainbow more than Deep Purple but i don't like Slaves And Masters
@Jamie.Laszlo
Жыл бұрын
@@franciskocher200 My assumption would be: Not everyone who likes Rainbow likes Slaves and Masters, but everyone (more or less) who prefers Slaves and Masters over other DP albums also prefers Rainbow. But I understand that's also a blanket statement...so, who knows?
@joshcreasey
Жыл бұрын
Not my favorite by Purple, but still solid. It is more of a Rainbow album, though.
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