When you get around to doing Kirishima be sure to check out the analysis of the wreck that was recently done thanks to the R/V Petrel.
@TheParkerrrrrr6
4 жыл бұрын
Which do you prefer? War thunder or World of Warships?
@LikeUntoBuddha
4 жыл бұрын
The Washington Naval Treaty was a bitch. It would be interesting to see how many major ships were scrapped, changed, never finished, etc. (how do you make a ship 26 feet longer?) My take is that the treaty was a mistake for America and England. They had the money to build whatever they wanted and Japan and Germany could not keep up. And then you get both of them cheating. I'd say that both Japan and Germany got to build what they could afford and we were left playing catch up.
@Justin-rv7oy
4 жыл бұрын
Cool high quality video, but I never understood your disdain for this class in previous mentions. Use what you got, they obviously made speed a priority to keep up with the carriers during the refits vice burdening them down with extra armor, and in 1941-1942, they were still extremely useful assets to act as fast escorts or to put down cruisers and below. Despite them all being annihilated, they proved their worth.
@KaiservonKrieger
4 жыл бұрын
What would you think would happen if the escorting ships of the Pearl Harbor (The battleships and cruisers) striked as well? And sending another wave at the Harbor?
@korbell1089
4 жыл бұрын
Vickers gun salesman: "If you act right now we can upgrade your ship with NOT 12" guns, NOT 13" guns, BUT 14" guns absolutely free! All you have to do is pay for shipping and handling'
@joelellis7035
4 жыл бұрын
"But wait! There's more . . . "
@bunbun4629
4 жыл бұрын
With this all new flex 15" youll be able to have more firepower *NOW THATS A LOT OF DAMAGE*
@CSSVirginia
4 жыл бұрын
3 easy payments of 19.99$!!!!!!
@Jpriest13
4 жыл бұрын
"If you act now, we'll throw in 10 cases of Earl Grey tea."
@artyom-ei2mf
4 жыл бұрын
@@Jpriest13 the emperor : shut up and take my money!
@info_fox
4 жыл бұрын
Nothing ever ends well with the sentence " Close range 16 inch shells."
@Kraeftling
4 жыл бұрын
That is a very clear case of "giving is more blessed than taking"
@VersusARCH
4 жыл бұрын
At that range the 16in sporting US ships were within range of Type 93 torpedoes, they were lucky the Japanese did not score any hits with them (see the Battle of Tassafaronga for reference of what might have happened). At greater ranges the Japanese would have had no means to reply.
@richardm3023
4 жыл бұрын
Depends on whether your pitching, or catching.
@1968gadgetyo
4 жыл бұрын
@@VersusARCH Washington got radar that have both range and direction. Japanese still uses Eyeballs MK 1 (human spotters) for ranging. And it was a night battle. Advantage goes to Washington.
@VersusARCH
4 жыл бұрын
@@1968gadgetyo The fact that Washington did not fire earlier cost the US three destroyers sunk and one battleship as well as one destroyer heavily damaged.
@mattblom3990
4 жыл бұрын
That rear gun layout is somehow so appealing.
@WillowEpp
4 жыл бұрын
Misspelled "appalling". :V
@ViperGTS737
4 жыл бұрын
the IJN Amagi battle cruiser had a roughly Similar rear layout ,but it had 3 twin turrets
@John.0z
4 жыл бұрын
Rather like the UK's Tiger. I would guess for similar reasons as they are not all that dissimilar.
@kylesprengeler5965
4 жыл бұрын
Just like the German Battlecrusiers
@TheGameFilmGuruMan
4 жыл бұрын
This is due to the ship initially being designed for 5x2 12" guns, with the 4th turret to be located between the two rear turrets if ended up with. When they swapped the design to 14" guns during construction, they weren't able to change the layout horribly much, and basically dropped a turret location. This is why there is space enough for another turret between the X and Y turrets on the ships. For something similar to the layout it would have had with the 12" armament, have a gander at the Amagi class.
@DrThunder88
4 жыл бұрын
"Wow, that battleship is really moving!" "Kongo?" "Yes, it Kongo very fast!"
@SitioLumbia
4 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@nbn461
3 жыл бұрын
Exit stage left
@stevewixom9311
3 жыл бұрын
oh Groannnn lol
@ivangenov6782
3 жыл бұрын
Take my fookin like and fly faster out of here
@tommatt2ski
3 жыл бұрын
Not fast enough to outrun the torpedoes from US. Sealion ,which sank her... along with an escorting destroyer who happened to run into one of the tin fish !
@pioneer_1148
4 жыл бұрын
"Would sir like a 14 inch gun with that?"
@scottdrone-silvers5179
4 жыл бұрын
“Why yes. Left, please”
@davidbrennan660
4 жыл бұрын
Hail Vickers!
@AtomicBabel
4 жыл бұрын
Jolly good, jolly jolly good
@Hale444
4 жыл бұрын
righto and all that tosh
@brainwashingdetergent4128
4 жыл бұрын
14 inch guns on deck and cow toung in the freezers we are ready for war sir.
@timothyhouse1622
4 жыл бұрын
British salesman slaps the hull of the Kongo: "You can fit so many 14 inch guns in this baby!"
@mjbull5156
4 жыл бұрын
"The ladies are impressed by the big guns. Are you sure we cannot get you into the 14" upgrade package?"
@Colt45hatchback
4 жыл бұрын
Numerous years later: "are the ladies still impressed by big guns?" Yes, "well then... Put 18.1" guns on this ship and the next can have 20" guns... "
@edhikurniawan
4 жыл бұрын
Damn ladies they whaled too much gacha just for the guns.
@moffjendob6796
4 жыл бұрын
More like: The British sales slaps the Kongou: "You can fit so many 14-inch guns in this baby!" Kongou slaps the salesman: "Yours is hardly fourteen inches ne!"
@lostpony4885
2 жыл бұрын
Whats it gonna take to put you in 8 of these babies today
@timcarpenter2441
4 жыл бұрын
That dark. brooding image of Haruna sunk and settled in shallow water is fascinating. If I were a kid there, I'd be desperate to get out to it and explore.
@corneliuscrewe677
2 жыл бұрын
Lord, that is a horrifying thought to me. I’ve always had an irrational fear of being in the water next to a large ship, a partially sunk one would set off so many heebie-jeebies for me.
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
4 жыл бұрын
To me, the (rebuilt) Kongo class is the best looking capital ship class
@thelvadam2884
4 жыл бұрын
They look great ngl, but the Tirpitz is my personal favorite :)
@markusz4447
4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Roma and the Iowa class but the Kongo cl. is beautiful as well
@CNMikado
4 жыл бұрын
Prince of wales: Amateurs
@christophpoll784
4 жыл бұрын
Nagato is also quite nice to look at....
@73Trident
4 жыл бұрын
North Carolina class for me.
@Kevin_Kennelly
4 жыл бұрын
"Vickers did manage to slide their ever persistent fourteen inch gun salesman into at least one meeting." "a close range knife-fight"
@Kevin_Kennelly
4 жыл бұрын
Aren't ALL knife-fights 'close range'?
@CSSVirginia
4 жыл бұрын
@Steve Blakley But then isn't that a sword fight? :)
@nk_3332
4 жыл бұрын
@@CSSVirginia Not if they are messers, which are officially knives (30+ inches/76+ cm long)
@CSSVirginia
4 жыл бұрын
@@nk_3332 Your are technically correct. Which is the best kind of correct.
@glennricafrente58
4 жыл бұрын
@Steve Blakley Or they're thrown.
@cannonfodder4376
4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the Kongo class, AKA, "thanks for doing nothing Yamato. Guess we have to do all the work."
@bkjeong4302
4 жыл бұрын
Except that they really didn’t do all that much either. Yes they sortied a lot more often, but most of their sorties didn’t end in something noteworthy. Their speed often gets brought up because of their ability to keep up with carriers or go into the Slot, but big-gun vessels are bad carrier escorts anyways (the big guns are pointless when you aren’t ever going to be in range of the enemy, and AA can be put on smaller, cheaper warships). Two of the three times they went into the Slot they lost, and they don’t even have the excuse of losing to enemy airpower. In terms of achievements they’re quite awful. The reality of WWII is that ALL big-gun vessels were obsolete and superfluous. I have no idea why Yamato is singled out for this far more general problem. Edit; Don't use the Battle off Samar to argue the Kongos achieved more than other Japanese capital ships, as most of Kongo's supposed achievements there have been found to be wrongly credited to her, being feats by the cruisers or even Yamato.
@bkjeong4302
4 жыл бұрын
The Rake It was only at first that they held them back for the decisive battle; after Midway, the Japanese held them back because they (and really, everyone else) couldn’t use their battleships cost-effectively anyways, and unlike the Americans (who could, and did, throw away money on pointless battleships and STILL have enough to build a ton of warships that actually mattered), they couldn’t afford to use them in inefficient ways either.
@bkjeong4302
4 жыл бұрын
@@therake8897 Not even that, Second Guadalcanal is really the only battle they could have proved their worth in. Yeah battleships in general ended up doing little in both world wars, though in WWI they were at least necessary for the occasions they came out and fought, while in WWII you can't even say that in most cases.
@bkjeong4302
4 жыл бұрын
@@therake8897 That was only before Midway (as I stated in an earlier comment)-afterwards they gave on on a decisive battle and didn't bother with the battlefleet due to them being pointless.
@1968gadgetyo
4 жыл бұрын
It did help Admiral Yamamoto gain weight in Hotel Yamato.
@karlvongazenberg8398
4 жыл бұрын
Just got the coffee... 2:20 "Persuaded the Japanese to select the larger weapon" Somehow I have the impression that the IJN officials were quite dissapointed that they only have the 14" guns... :)
@thanakonpraepanich4284
4 жыл бұрын
Did they went home and produced 41cm/45 gun because they thought they were conned by British arms dealer on Kongou?
@karlvongazenberg8398
4 жыл бұрын
@@thanakonpraepanich4284 I don't know. What I know, is that the Japanese army (pre or post WWii?) issued bayonets to the heavy machine guns, to make a point, that it is an assault weapon.
@wtftrollkiller8231
4 жыл бұрын
@@karlvongazenberg8398 only the Type 96 and 99 can fix bayonet
@jonathanerickson1543
4 жыл бұрын
I have not researched it much myself, however my impression was the modernization of the Japanese was heavily influenced by western powers.
@wtftrollkiller8231
4 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanerickson1543 True. In this case, Imperial Japan succeeded. Unfortunately, Imperial China failed to modernize in time.
@spartancam-rs5ru
4 жыл бұрын
Unironically, kantaii collection was what started my love for naval history and warships, its all thanks to KONGOU DESU!
@MrSleepy677
4 жыл бұрын
I credited Dogfights episode "Death Of The Japanese Navy" for my interest in the Pacific War.
@1968gadgetyo
4 жыл бұрын
No one was inspired by Battle of the Midway (Chalton Heston version)? Try Azur Lane. The memes are more historical accurate. Like Enterprise got repair bonus with Vestal in the fleet.
@westcoaststacker569
4 жыл бұрын
Mine would be models I built in the 70s Iowa and a modern carrier, as well as Midway (1976), In Harms Way (1965) and the many submarine movies of the time. Amazing always to tour an old sub and see the machine shop etc... they packed into it.
@mayuri4184
4 жыл бұрын
Same here. Kongou may have caught my attention, but Iowa hooked me in.
@dimdimbramantyo7666
4 жыл бұрын
It's funny that an animated Japanese propaganda awakened my inner history geek
@legioxiiigemina2845
4 жыл бұрын
The retrofited Kongo is one of the most beautiful capital ships during ww2 in my opinion
@ayylmao9697
4 жыл бұрын
amen to that
@legioxiiigemina2845
4 жыл бұрын
@Ron Lewenberg i think nicer than Hood and Alaska but Roma ... and incredible ship ! I think 1st Yamato, 2nd Roma, 3rd Ise aircraft carrier battleship, 4th Kongo, 5 Dunkerque, 6 Bismarck, 7 Hood, 8 Warspite, 9 North Carolina, 10 schleswig holstein.
@legioxiiigemina2845
4 жыл бұрын
@@therake8897 really nice, just like Kongo
@legioxiiigemina2845
4 жыл бұрын
@Enslaved singaporean 2 but Alaska is a capital ship.
@Kieselmeister
4 жыл бұрын
@Enslaved singaporean 2 If the Kongo's count as battleships, then the Alaska's should too. The Alaskas are about the same size as the Kongo's, have slightly better armor but worse torpedo protection, and their more modern 12" guns had better penetration and a higher rate of fire than the Kongo's 14"s... An Alaska would also stand a pretty good chance of winning a duel with a Sharnhorst class. The Alaska is slightly faster and has an immune zone against the Sharnhorst's guns from 18 km out to maximum range, while the Sharnhorst has no immune zone against the Alaska's 12" guns. The bad reputation of "battle" cruisers is pretty much the reason the CB hull designation stands for Cruiser, "big" (large), instead of Cruiser, Battle. The fact that they were intended as carrier escorts doesn't really change much, since in a sense carriers fufill functionally the same role as battlecruisers. (scouting, commerce raiding, and being able to outrun or outrange enemy ships.) The aircraft trumps any gun armed ship for range, but they can't operate at night, and an Alaska could match or overmatch anything fast enough to actually catch a carrier taskforce at night while being cheaper than an Iowa.
@JOHNfreedom-le9ze
4 жыл бұрын
BURNING LOVE!!! Whether in real life, Kancolle, Aoki Hagane, or Azur Lane, The Kongo is a favorite of mine. Awesome video.
@kaymish6178
4 жыл бұрын
So annoyed that Alexsis Tipton phoned in her role in Kancolle
@joshthomas-moore2656
4 жыл бұрын
@@kaymish6178 Phoned in?
@bificommander7472
4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget World of Warship. The only fun to play capital ship I got to.
@TheLiamis
4 жыл бұрын
Arpegio of blue steel has the best kongou.
@observationsfromthebunker9639
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheLiamis All for of the Kongos in Arpegio are made of love and win.
@711jastin
4 жыл бұрын
I like aesthetic of Kongo class so much, and the history of the ship herself. Also, Kongo best waifu, no objection accepted
@tomasotero703
4 жыл бұрын
Haruna, and you know it. :)
@lansen943
4 жыл бұрын
No Hood is.
@tomasotero703
4 жыл бұрын
@@lansen943 BOI
@reverend3578
4 жыл бұрын
The Kongo sisters are all supreme Waifus, but Kaga is where it's at.
@tomasotero703
4 жыл бұрын
@@reverend3578 had us in the first half not gonna lie
@blueboats7530
4 жыл бұрын
Vickers: "We will sell you the ability to erase the British Empire in East Asia" Japan: "We'll do it with aerial torpedos regardless, but a thank you is in order"
@KokkiePiet
4 жыл бұрын
Blue Boats When the US had not imposed an oil embargo on Japan for the war in Manchuria and China I don’t think they would have swung south into Malaysia and Indonesia. They did that to get their hands on the oilfields of Indonesia
@TheDiablotak
7 ай бұрын
I know the Kongos weren’t the best Battleships/Battlecruisers in history but they are some of my favorite ships. They have undeniably good lines, fast and relatively well armed they hold a special place in my heart
@hypothalapotamus5293
4 ай бұрын
It depends on what your definition of good or bad. Due to the dominance of airpower, most engagements in the Pacific War involved formations of cruisers and destroyers sprinting into a contested sea zone to avoid air attack and fighting under the cover of darkness. The Kongo class was fast enough to go in with these formations and was easily the most active Japanese fast BB. In that sense, it was an oddly appropriate design for its time. The question is whether Kongo's unique capabilities enabled the IJN to do something good or if it just enabled them to do something really dumb. In hindsight, it was the second. Contesting Guadalcanal was a bad idea. At the time, IJN had an incredible superiority in night battles, but this advantage was negated by the Americans just needing to cripple a ship enough that their airplanes could use it for target practice when the sun came up again.
@johanndork5364
Ай бұрын
Whatever the resulting end for these ships the IJN got tremendous value from them. Building bigger and fewer battleships proved a mistake compared with large numbers of smaller vessels. Carriers today are making the same mistake, prime targets in a peer conflict.
@laszlo5201
4 жыл бұрын
KONGO-DESU! Sorry i will see myself out.
@nathanhartanto2544
4 жыл бұрын
No, no, we can talk...
@Stormseer88
4 жыл бұрын
Burning Love!
@morganrobinson8042
4 жыл бұрын
This had to exist. It wasn't optional. You're not to blame, you are merely the lightning rod that was struck by the bolt.
@thekinginyellow1744
4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, I have to go find a weeb to punch in the face
@palmsa4363
4 жыл бұрын
@@thekinginyellow1744 you can punch me if you want :D
@thomaszinser8714
4 жыл бұрын
Kongou-desu! Nah, though, the Kongou-class are definitely some rather interesting battlecruisers.
@张桓瑜
4 жыл бұрын
BURNING LOVE!
@TheBikeOnTheMoon
4 жыл бұрын
I was expecting "burning love" but the comment section was more civilized than I thought
@shipgirllover
3 жыл бұрын
You would be surprised by how many of us can be tame and discuss the actual history of the ship without screeching an anime girl based on said ship's lines.
@TheLiamis
4 жыл бұрын
Arpegio of blue steel was where my live of Kongou. Great looking ship.
@WatcherMovie008
4 жыл бұрын
Came for the Kantai comments, is not disappointed.
@jpaulc441
4 жыл бұрын
7:40 For a second I thought this was a painting of a fortified volcano.
@mayuri4184
4 жыл бұрын
Ah, Kongo. A ship of such energy, filled to the brim with Burning Love. My first ring in Kantai Collection. Got her Kai 2C form immediately.
@ThrowawayModeller
4 жыл бұрын
@@bakaweiner6956 Don't worry, it's still pain and suffering.
@mayuri4184
4 жыл бұрын
@@bakaweiner6956 There is a DDoS attack that requires a VPN to play, even if you're using the likes of KC3 Kai. (I'm using SoftEther VPN Gate as that VPN.) This is not permanent, according to devs. Gotland is currently a limited-time drop, and will get her second retrofit soon.
@mayuri4184
4 жыл бұрын
@@bakaweiner6956 Not at the moment. In the previous event, we had the following new ships: - HNLMS De Ruyter - USS Houston - HMAS Perth - Shinshuu Maru (LHA) - Akishimo - Hirato - USS Atlanta (with a certain Hard only equipment, AACI is more powerful than Maya's, but Maya is more versatile) We also had a mini-event involving Hishimochis. The reward was remodel materials. Save for a small part, I pretty much skipped the event. Also, Okinami had her second retrofit.
@kimpatz2189
4 жыл бұрын
Hiei kai-Ni "C" for the next update this April 25, 2020
@IJustKant
4 жыл бұрын
I love the Kongo class, arguably Japan’s best looking capital ships. Great video!
@congratsyoufoundmychannel1098
4 жыл бұрын
Kiroshima: Heheheheh South Dakota: F**k Washington: *Hello there*
@aussiejezza
2 жыл бұрын
General Washington!, you are a bold one
@RocketGurney
4 жыл бұрын
By far one of the most aesthetically pleasing class of warships of the world wars, and one that I most wish had somehow been preserved (along with Nagato, of course).
@Jax2777
4 жыл бұрын
OOOOOOOHHHH Bongo bongo bongo, I dont wanna leave my kongo oh no no no no~
@beanlord4347
4 жыл бұрын
Designers: So how much superstructure should the new battleship have? IJN: *Y E S*
@bkjeong4302
4 жыл бұрын
Actually the reason for pagoda masts was partially due to the LACK of a big superstructure.
@beanlord4347
4 жыл бұрын
@@bkjeong4302 Still though, it made their ships look goofy
@gillianbravepie
4 жыл бұрын
@@beanlord4347 *cough* Fusō *cough*
@张桓瑜
4 жыл бұрын
Born in England and returned to Japan, first ship of Kongou class, Kongou desu!
@deidryt9944
4 жыл бұрын
"Haruna spending much of the 1920s in reserve after suffering from an explosion in one of [her] turrets." Haruna: Daijoubu desu
@moffjendob6796
4 жыл бұрын
My little sisters work so hard dess.
@jpdillon2832
4 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, the Imperial Japanese navy was still a threat
@thelvadam2884
4 жыл бұрын
They have quite the navy now, including Kaga and Izumo ( aircraft/ Helicopter carriers) destroyers and some other neat stuff
@lordredlead2336
4 жыл бұрын
Well the imperial Japanese Navy no longer I think nobody is imperial anymore
@thomaskositzki9424
4 жыл бұрын
You a ghost, a vampire or a living dead?
@petman515
4 жыл бұрын
@@thelvadam2884 and 2 carriers named after the battle carriers.
@jefferynelson
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the work you put into the channel Drach. We all benefit.
@lafeelabriel
4 жыл бұрын
That final image of Haruna is such a sad sight. She (and indeed the class as a whole) deserved a better fate than lady luck handed them.
@bcoop1701
2 жыл бұрын
Prior to the Washington Naval Treaty, Japanese battle line tactics revolved around having two squadrons with one made up of fast ships (armored cruisers or battlecruisers). The fast squadron would work with the main squadron using what were called "L" tactics. They would approach the enemy battle line with the fast squadron trailing and no matter which way the enemy battle fleet turned the two squadrons would separate on headings about 90 degrees apart to sandwich the enemy between them so the enemy was taking fire from two directions. The WNT ended the plans for the 8-8 or 8-8-8 fleet so the Japanese had to group their existing capital ships together as one unit. There was no need for battlecruisers in the new doctrine so the ships had their protection improved slightly as discussed in the video (which was excellent as always) and they were redesignated as fast battleships. So physically they weren't much better protected than when in their battlecruiser role but their mission and role had changed by the 30s. That is why they should be considered fast (and admittedly lightly armored) battleships in WW2.
@Lukusprime
4 жыл бұрын
I know everyone else has, but I have to too: BUUUUURNINGUU LAAAAAAV!!!!!
@richardcook555
4 жыл бұрын
You have so many videos of ships in drydock. Ever consider a series of videos on the history of drydocks and their value in wars? Can't save the ship if it can't be repaired.
@grahvis
4 жыл бұрын
Hence the St. Nazaire raid.
@bkjeong4302
4 жыл бұрын
@@grahvis That particular one wasn't a good example, as Tirpitz was never planned to head there in the first place.
@grahvis
4 жыл бұрын
@@bkjeong4302 . I don't think there was any assurance it would not be used in the Atlantic, however wrecking the dock certainly made sure. You are right in that the value of dry docks is not given the attention that perhaps they deserve.
@bkjeong4302
4 жыл бұрын
@@grahvis The Germans had no such plans, Hitler put an end to Atlantic surface ops after Rheinbunung.
@tulsatrash
4 жыл бұрын
Good idea.
@benjaminjohnson628
4 жыл бұрын
Japanese cruisers, when skyscrapers go to war
@christophpoll784
4 жыл бұрын
Japanese aircraft carriers... when you do your ironing at war on the main deck!
@sankyu3950
4 жыл бұрын
Japanese destroyer. When you came out of mcdonald to participate the war
@AtomicBabel
4 жыл бұрын
Japanese Submarines, when HOLLYWOOD, HOLLYWOOD, HOLLYWOOOOOD!!!!!
@Blueman-in3lv
4 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Johnson Yamato class battleships, when hotels go to war
@hailexiao2770
4 жыл бұрын
American cruisers, when gun shops go to war French, Italian & Soviet destroyers, when Formula 1 cars go to war German battleships, when grandpa goes to war with new toys
@robertf3479
4 жыл бұрын
Lot's of information that I didn't know before about the class, especially Hiei. This is why I love this channel. Well done sir.
@wrnchhead76
4 ай бұрын
One of my favorite looking ships of all time.
@vespelian5769
4 жыл бұрын
Shame the Royal Navy couldn't have pulled the same stunt with the Tiger.
@RedXlV
4 жыл бұрын
I still find it somewhat surprising that the Royal Navy didn't look for a way to keep HMS Tiger. Especially since she was retired right when the freak-out of the threat of the Deutschland-class as commerce raiders was happening. Battlecruisers were the perfect counter to fast commerce-raiding cruisers, yet Britain was willing to dispose of one of their only 4 remaining battlecruisers. I can't seen any real chance of the Royal Navy using Tiger as a training ship with the specific plan to remilitarize her in wartime the way Japan did with Hiei. Britain was the only nation that was completely scrupulous about complying with the naval treaties, whereas everybody else looked for loopholes to exploit or in the cases of Italy and Japan just outright cheated. For example, the reason the KGV class had 10 rather than the originally planned 12 guns is that with the planned 3 quad turrets they would exceed the 35,000 ton limit by a mere 500 tons. So the only way Tiger would've been saved from the London Treaty would've been to sacrifice HMS Revenge instead. Given Tiger's greater flexibility and Revenge's lack of potential for further upgrades, I think that would've been a good trade.
@johnfisher9692
4 жыл бұрын
@@RedXlV Drach covered this exact scenario in his five minute guide on HMS Tiger showing that the RN made the correct choice in saving the Revenge class ships.
@em1osmurf
2 жыл бұрын
wow. you pack so much into such a short bit. this was so very good, then suddenly over with. thanks, Drach! well done!
@HoChiMeme
4 жыл бұрын
Burning love
@rybuds47
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking care of your fans that are trying to stay home. You are A+ personality.
@EstellammaSS
4 жыл бұрын
Five minutes guide to the CAM ships of the Merchant Marine! Strapping a Hurricane to your front deck to intercept FW200s with no way of landing the plane is about the most hardcore thing one could do in WW2.
@spikespa5208
4 жыл бұрын
Kamikazes?
@EstellammaSS
4 жыл бұрын
Spike's Pa well, most of them survived, so bonus points for that.
@KMCA779
4 жыл бұрын
@@spikespa5208 Nope, the hurricat pilots were passionate and to be frank, insane. Who wants to launch off a ship to engage in a dogfight where even if you win you're going to have to ditch in the ocean. If they launched, they swam and hoped that someone would pick them up... Now imagine the ship you launched from sinking. Balls. Of. Steel.
@WildBillCox13
2 жыл бұрын
5:06 That picture of Kongo in drydock is worth the whole price of admission. Nice.
@sarjim4381
4 жыл бұрын
The growth of the pagoda structures reflect the Japanese faith in their optical rangefinders. As their weight and size grew, they needed ever taller and stronger structures to support and make best use of them. This also reflected how little faith the IJN had in radar, since their doctrine was their rangefinders would be more than adequate day or night. It wasn't until late 1942 that the Japanese realized how much USN surface search and radar fire control was mauling their ships. That set off a furious pace of development for their own radars. UNfortunately, it did the same for the army, with many identical types being developed in tandem with no coordination between the two services. If some miracle would have occured and the talented men for all services worked together, the IJN may have had effective radars by late 1944, but even that would have been too late. There are very few cases in the history of warfare where the types of circular gunfights engaged in by the Japanese armed services so badly impacted their chance of survival, let alone victory.
@bkjeong4302
4 жыл бұрын
It's not just optics that require a high vantage point; radar also does better the higher it is placed (though the Japanese didn't make use of it for most vessels)
@sarjim4381
4 жыл бұрын
@@bkjeong4302 True, although these pagoda masts were built to increase the height of radio antennas as well as optics. The low powered, regenerative circuit radios of the 20's required as much height as possible if they were going to get any kind of useable range, especially in the Pacific. The early USN radars were primarily mounted on carriers and battleships for the same reasons. It was the development of superhet multiple stage receivers and higher powered transmitters that made absolute antenna height less important during the late 30's onward.
@AtomicBabel
4 жыл бұрын
Competition for topside real estate, sensor coverage, wave length allocation and prioritization is alive and well in the 21 century.
@georgecoventry8441
2 жыл бұрын
Very useful ships! Their high speed was of great value, same as with Hood, Renown, and Repulse. They made ideal escorts for the Japanese carriers, and thus were kept quite busy in the early part of the war.
@Mysteres78979
4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the Type 3 shell? Or if possible on the different types of aerial bombs and/or a series of video covering the different torpedoes used during both world wars by each country like France, britain and etc? A last series of video you could do would be the evolution of food preservation in the royal navy and other navy's in the world. Thanks to do those video on naval ammunations and food preservation that is also a large aspect of naval warfare that aren't often covered in video's. Thanks to take note of that :)
@SkywalkerWroc
4 жыл бұрын
Kongo is amazing. My favourite WW2 warship. Looking forward for the longer video on the class, and the Kongo herself!
@19Koty96
4 жыл бұрын
In fact, from what I've read, the ship was not lost due to Washington's fire itself, but instead accidentally scuttled following efforts to counterflood the damage caused by Washington.
@jerometeo3796
4 жыл бұрын
Wow nice damage control
@19Koty96
4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Although it had a lot to do with how the ship was built, the flooding made her top heavy lol. So she was just tumbling from side to side )))
@r.awilliams9815
4 жыл бұрын
@Nguyen Johnathan Great read, thanks for the link.
@williama.walker2287
4 жыл бұрын
Damage control was not a strong point of the Japanese Navy. The fate of Kongo is proof of that.
@robertreinhart1355
4 жыл бұрын
But she was screwed anyway because she didn’t stand a chance against Washington
@Sky_Eden
4 жыл бұрын
YESSS, THE KONGO VIDEO IS HERE, AFTER A YEAR OF WAITING
@unclestone8406
4 жыл бұрын
If I remember the accounts of Hiei at Guadalcanal correctly, USS Laffey's gunfire on her bridge wounded the Japanese admiral in command of the raid force and killed his second in command. Laffey's action, far as I can see, was the cause of the Japanese turning back that night.
@richardcutts196
4 жыл бұрын
You have never specifically said why you seem to dislike the Vickers 14" gun. From what I've seen the only reason to favor the 13.5 over the 14 was because they (the RN) had a stock of 13.5" shells dating back to Queen Victoria sitting around. Hardly (in my opinion) a reason to choose a weapon.
@Drachinifel
4 жыл бұрын
I don't dislike it, it's just hilarious at how pushy they were trying to sell it literally anyone with even a tangential interest in naval artillery. :D
@richardcutts196
4 жыл бұрын
@@Drachinifel Ok, I had considered that as a possibility from the way you said it. I was also mindful that later the RN went to a 14" gun. Another consideration was that the biggest bottleneck in warship production was the big guns. I thought that if the RN had gone to a 14" instead of a 13.5" that they could have benefited from Vickers already existent capacity.
@jimmiller5600
4 жыл бұрын
It's not just Drach's video -- it is the cascading deep dive(s) into the battles he mentions..................
@timhurtienne7760
6 ай бұрын
Kongo Fuso and Nagato are just such beuatifull ships
@RedXlV
4 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing that they were classified as "fast battleships" after reconstruction more as a matter of the IJN retiring the "battlecruiser" designation than to suggest they were actually considered the equal of a modern battleship.
@markmclaughlin2690
Жыл бұрын
My Father served aboard USS Gambier Bay during the Battle off Samar.
@metaknight115
9 ай бұрын
Dang. Ship was hit by 18.1-inch shells from Yamato, first shell that hit her probably sealed her fate. I believe Kongo claimed a hit on Gambier Bay, but the hit was also claimed by Yamato, who had the shorter range and the correct firing angle.
@dimdimbramantyo7666
4 жыл бұрын
Finally, muh KONGO BONGO
@kongoclass1481
4 жыл бұрын
Burning love!!
@GruntUltra
4 жыл бұрын
It is true - thanks to Kongo & her sisters in various anime, I really love the history and intrigue of the Kongo-class ships. FI-YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! And don't get me started on the time that she saved Fubuki-desu! ;)
@ocb8486
4 жыл бұрын
Kongo is my favourite ship of all time,great looking and just awesome 😍
@orzorzelski1142
4 жыл бұрын
BURNING LOOOOOOOOOOOVE!
@koini11
4 жыл бұрын
The photo at 5:00 is one of the most beautiful I have ever seen of a warship. Lovely light picking out the lines and a slight mistiness. Gorgeous.
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment
4 жыл бұрын
Fellow Shikikans, Teitokus and/or just random weebs passing by. It is our time to shine
@ayylmao9697
4 жыл бұрын
It's over
@joshthomas-moore2656
4 жыл бұрын
Kongo-san HIEI!
@royasturias1784
4 жыл бұрын
"Zenkan, sentou haichi!"
@Bisexual_Sovereign
4 жыл бұрын
Kongou-Dess Burning Love!
@thanakonpraepanich4284
4 жыл бұрын
Somehow Yamato guide uploaded las year did not get overrun by us weebs like this.
@YuiFunami
4 жыл бұрын
burning love
@talonharibon8577
4 жыл бұрын
I see muh fellow weebs have overtaken this comment section. Glorious. *Burning Love*
@astartes2781
4 жыл бұрын
Baningu rabu!!!!!
@thefellathathuntsvatniks
4 жыл бұрын
Me: *diving into Kongou's deck* BOMBS AWAY!!! *drops bombs and pulls up*
@ravenwing199
4 жыл бұрын
@@thefellathathuntsvatniks Shouldn't it be a Submarine? Or be a mad bastard and fire your Orelikon at Hiei.
@thefellathathuntsvatniks
4 жыл бұрын
@@ravenwing199 I'm inside my Dauntless, you know...
@ravenwing199
4 жыл бұрын
@@thefellathathuntsvatniks Uh Ok but I actually got a functional Mk14 torpedo.
@lostpony4885
2 жыл бұрын
Nicely outfitted specifications for their time and circumstance.
@tomstech4390
4 жыл бұрын
Tried Kongo in wows and loved it, then found ARP and now it (and Haruna) and musashi are some of my favs. Currently grinding through Nagato :-/
@bloodrave9578
2 жыл бұрын
I'm on Fuso
@LikeUntoBuddha
4 жыл бұрын
I did not know they were that old and had been rebuilt that much. Thanks!
@pauldrive7243
4 жыл бұрын
And Thanks to WG I now have all 4 in my WoWs Port under the ARP Banner!
@connormclernon26
4 жыл бұрын
Same
@claypidgeon4807
4 жыл бұрын
BURNING LOVE
@DAOzz83
4 жыл бұрын
"Hey, these new U.S. battleships aren't so tough!" --_Kirishima_ , Guadalcanal, 1942 "Surprise, Mothaf-----!!!" -- U.S.S. _Washington_ , 5 seconds later.
@tonymanero5544
3 жыл бұрын
It was radar. When the South Dakota suffered electric power loss, it was blind without radar like others with the IJN trained in night fighting.
@ancientgamer3645
4 жыл бұрын
An excellent video. A very informative "five minutes" more or even more. Two thumbs up! More or less.
That mast just grew like a tree over the years! Higher and thicker.
@billhable7273
3 жыл бұрын
Surprised to see you've covered this ship already. I wish you would cover the story of the sinking as well, and it's race to Taiwan before sinking.
@4evaavfc
4 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool looking ships. I remember building a kitset Kirishima when I was a sprog.
@yukkurispee1773
4 жыл бұрын
Okay, its time for one thing. One inescapable thing. One that will not be left with time... BURNING LOVEEEEE! I'll see myself out now
@cavscout888
2 жыл бұрын
Pacific theater still my focus. Thanks!
@maxkennedy8075
4 жыл бұрын
The comment section of this video will be I N T E R E S T I NG
@tylerdoerrer3576
4 жыл бұрын
Normally just listen but like the Recolored Photos, really added to the video for me
@tomhsia4354
4 жыл бұрын
Somehow, I envision this ship chomping down on one of her sister ships with a maw running the entire length of the ship in a sea of blazing, sinking ships while ominous, yet badass organ music blares in the background. Weird.
@USSEnterpriseA1701
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I've got the same mental image. XD Of course, this is also interspersed with images of a girl with really quite elaborate hair, screaming "Burningu Love!" at the top of her lungs. There really is a heck of a lot of wild and crazy stuff floating around in my skull.
@thanakonpraepanich4284
4 жыл бұрын
I guess Azur Lane designer had this image in mind when they started working on Friedrich de Grobe. Put a 9th symphony in as a background music and you are set.
@gillianbravepie
4 жыл бұрын
C-cadenza?
@McRocket
4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your videos. Though the ending's seem a bit 'cold'. I, personally, would like to hear you give a brief summation of what you thought of the classes/ships you review at the end of every video - say, 60 seconds long or so.
@tulsatrash
4 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy things are still going strong at 174.
@cottoncatt1186
4 жыл бұрын
Now, I need some black tea.
@711jastin
4 жыл бұрын
tea time desu~~
@patrickradcliffe3837
2 жыл бұрын
The Kongō class was a very successful modernized battlecrusier getting it up to 32kts was a impressive feat for a pre-WWI design.
@AtomicBabel
4 жыл бұрын
Here we go again! 25mm type 96 AA Why they sOck = drydock 18 Why they persisted = drydock 55 This has been a public service message 🤓
@tcpratt1660
3 жыл бұрын
The 25mm Type 96 Aircraft Notification System, in the US, would be sold at Wal-Mart along with the Red Ryder BB guns...
@takao5618
4 жыл бұрын
I didnt know the Kongos had different pagoda masts. I cant wait for the video on Takao, it's my favorite ship!
@BOBO-xe6rl
4 жыл бұрын
I was actually wondering what the hell am i suposed to do im so bored. *New vid with Kongo waifu* Yeeeeeeeeeee
@reynard61
4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this video! Thanks!
@asheer9114
4 жыл бұрын
There are some historical claims that Hiei could be saved from sinking if her Captain didn't ignored order to beach her in the shallow waters of a nearby combat zone island... On the other hand... I'm not sure if such beaching would make any overall difference for Hiei's ultimate fate due graduately increased American air superiority over Guadalcanal which would no doubt result in constant air raids against her both from Henderson Field and US Navy carriers operating in the area.
@deltavee2
4 жыл бұрын
A Japanese captain ignoring a direct order in the very brutal IJN? That's pretty much suicidal. Did he go down with his ship or kill himself? If she had been beached and made into a stationary gun position the Americans would have just bombed her into oblivion.
@tisFrancesfault
4 жыл бұрын
@@bakaweiner6956 hey, don't try to play that the Japanese were victims. Japan started a war with the US and the US was sure as shit going to finish it.
@suflanker45
4 жыл бұрын
He couldn't run Hiei aground, her steering gear was wrecked and her rudder was jammed to starboard forcing her to turn in circles.
@bakaweiner6956
4 жыл бұрын
@@tisFrancesfault I wouldn't even bother to find victims in a war between colonisers...
@bullettube9863
4 жыл бұрын
Asheer: Hiei was badly damaged, and despite efforts to tow her with her rudder jammed, she was further damaged by bombs and torpedoes. Admiral Abe (who had been wounded) ordered the ship to be abandoned, destroyers took off the survivors and then torpedoed the ship. Since admiral Abe was on board, the captain cannot be blamed for anything as he was following orders. It was due to the jammed rudder that Hiei was doomed. It has also been found, that like other Japanese ships that were sunk, Hiei's forrward magazine blew up as she went under indicating either too sensitive shell fuses, shells with fuses installed in storage, or a fire was raging around the magazine.
@Biostalker420
4 жыл бұрын
I stopped playing, but I still love facts!
@Iain1957
4 жыл бұрын
The design and construction of the Kongo class deserves a greater discussion (I think you had pointed out that you are going to do this). It wasnt the case of Armstrong's salesmen selling 14 inch guns there was a complex interaction with the Japanese team who had technincal knowladge and experience and Armstorngs naval artitects with the Royal Navy keeping a close eye on developments. This was different than sales to other countries that seemed simply to go along with the salesmen (thinking of the South American battleships) or accept whatever the Royal Navy told them (the RAN and HMAS Australia - they could have got a better design).
@darrensmith6999
4 жыл бұрын
Thank You a really enjoy your content.
@adriankrisdianto5098
4 жыл бұрын
Kirishima: "arrived at Guadalcanal", Uss Washington: are you challenging me?
@1TruNub
4 жыл бұрын
Burning love intensifies
@Hardbass2021
4 жыл бұрын
Time that I had seen a video about the Kongō-class. My question for your Q & A is about the Imperial Japanese Navy's infamous Long Lance Torpedo.
@LikeUntoBuddha
4 жыл бұрын
If you support a KZitemr, "likes" do not matter, minutes watched does. So please watch it all the way through.
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