Agree 100% with your opening here. If you can't get good images out of most modern cameras, the problem isn't the camera. I still mix 8 bit shots from my A7Sii and ancient Lumix GH2 alongside my Terra 4K shooting ProRes 4444 and it works because I take my time planning my shots and getting my lighting right and getting 90% of the image I want in camera so it doesn't need heavy grading.
@shagral
Күн бұрын
Yep, pretty much. Thanks for watching!
@billyoung9538
Күн бұрын
This lost me when it tried to say Prores is a better mid level codec than Braw. That simply isn't the case BRAW 12:1 or even better Q5 is more efficient than pretty much any Prores codec one would realistically want to shoot a project in when shot at the same resolution. Sure one could shoot Prores Proxy, but it's so horrible one is often better off shooting with H.264 or H.265, which several of the newer cameras do as a proxy automatically at the same time they shoot BRAW now. Seriously 10bit Prores LT 4:2:2, the smallest non proxy format that is worth shooting in, when shot at the exact same resolution is BIGGER than BRAW 12:1 which is a 4:4:4 12 bit codec. So it begs the question WHY would anyone choose to shoot Prores over BRAW? Some would then make the argument that BRAW is more limited in editors, except that is a half truth. BRAW can be read into almost all NLE either natively or with a Plug-in at this point in time, and a copy DaVinci Resolve Studio comes with almost all of Blackmagics cameras except the Micro Studio which is limited to UHD so works fine with the free version, and it works on MAC, Windows, Linux and even iOS on some Apple Tablets. If one needs a different codec then BRAW then the Blackmagic Proxy generator can convert those small BRAW files into large and less color rich Prores files fairly easily, or use Resolve to transform it into even bigger formats for theoreticaly incompatible software, except Prores exporting is not officially supported on any platform outside of Apple products. So sure that is a debatable limitation. Another argument I've herd is that BRAW is LOG and people don't want to deal with grading, except this argument falls appart because BRAW uses a sidecar file that includes linking a relative LUT that will auto load and apply with the footage. AKA it's not really an issue unless one breaks the footage folder structure. The only real argument for Prores is for in camera image processing. AKA lens correction and in camera effects getting baked into the footage. Given Blackmagic cameras don't do this type of processing the only time that becomes a factor is with cameras that use the Video Assist, which is outside the scope of the argument of this video as he clearly states he doesn't want an external recorder.
@avdcam
18 сағат бұрын
Even the C70 and C300markIII had a long list of codecs to choose from. I have received FX6 footage that was recorded in the long gop mode an 8bit and the operators had no idea. Since the camera doesn't tell you. Just seems insane to me, but another reason I still preferred Canon's DGO sensor. Too bad more ops just didn't take the time to learn about the differences. Here's hoping the C400 gains an open gate mode since the sensor is actually 3:2 but only 17:9 is being used currently. I also don't get the love for IBIS either. The burano seems so strange of a camera for that reason. Honestly, I think the biggest issues might actually be the buyers. A lot of operators asked for IBIS and lightweight codecs because many just didn't know why they might be a mistake.
@georgemalczynski
Күн бұрын
I think you might really like the Nikon z8. Other than Open Gate, it hits all your points. It shoots tons of codecs, records up to 8k with various crops and resolutions available, has a very fast sensor, and features a locking ibis unit.
@kingcutttt
Күн бұрын
Lumix S5IIX. Do some research, and I think you'll be happy with what you find in that $2000 camera.
@danielemoroni3550
Күн бұрын
Maybe give a shot at Pansonic S5II IBIS, almost no issues (except rolling shutter ofc)
@FeelAndCoffee
3 сағат бұрын
Yep, and even that you can reduce a lot of it using the APS-C crop mode
@SMGJohn
Күн бұрын
Image quality peaked for photography in 2012, and for video it peaked in 2018 for consumer cameras. Only way forward now is for companies to create different sensor than CMOS with a bayer filter, unique colour profiles, different body designs to appeal to the masses. Sigma should do Foveon for m4/3, it would be far more successful than the previous Foveon attempts, not only is it small enough to not bottleneck the CPU, if they are competent enough to design a good body to go along with it, and allow for video, it could be a real winner.
@WolferAlpha
42 минут бұрын
At least your case is not as extreme as mine... I can only choose between recording at 60Mbps or 2000Mbps and at almost 2Gbps I can't edit directly because the editor doesn't accept the format (yet) so either I export to ProRes, HEVC or Cineform or I edit in CinemaDNG and in that case it goes to 4080Mbps... Note, this is not a camera, but a smartphone.
@gillesvanleeuwen
2 күн бұрын
It's really too bad that non of the Canon cameras that have full frame sensors allow for 3:2 or 4:3 recording. Should be a firmware thing.
@shagral
Күн бұрын
They seem to think it's some kind of high-end cinema feature to be reserved only for the most expensive model.
@NicoBaum-dr5sf
Күн бұрын
@@shagraland blackmagic and Panasonic
@jovan_spasovic
Күн бұрын
Panasonic has this feature on quite literally most cameras. I have it on S5 IIX which is by no means considered ultra high end but bang for the buck high end. @@NicoBaum-dr5sf
@khanmimaad
Күн бұрын
It’s a hardware thing, you need internals capable of that level of sensor readout
@smalldeekgeorge
Күн бұрын
That's why I bought sigma fp that shots true 12 bit uncompressed raw directly on ssd that I can just plug in and edit of it. It does shot 400mbps long I gop but sharpening and noise reduction cant be disabled. Every camera should have options to disable camera postprocessing so we get clean video!
@kaidiemulan6061
Күн бұрын
Would he great if you would start the video by telling its about video instead of photo. I do also think Ibis was designed for photography and people did like it for video in some cases
@alzibaba
Күн бұрын
Agreed. It’s why I still love the ZCam E2 F6 and see little reason to upgrade.
@koomar341
Күн бұрын
"Only Raw" when talking about Blackmagic cameras is not a valid criticism. They can be heavily compressed, beyond PRORES, with 12:1 etc, and outperform PRORES! The only downside is you are stuck with one workflow pretty much, in resolve, and if you hand off footage to clients it will be in a format they may not want (unless you transcode yourself beforehand).
@sethcoogan
2 күн бұрын
Great video! Thanks for putting so much hard work into these. I really enjoyed your dynamic range video. And totally agree on this one too, it's interesting to see what manufacturers will do moving forward.
@shagral
2 күн бұрын
Thanks for your support, Seth!
@MODESTYXO205
Күн бұрын
If you purchased a camera today for a solo creator who short films, doc work, and travel content, would you choose a Sony Fx3, Canon R5 mark2, or Sony zve-1 any other suggestions? Keep up the good work
@shagral
Күн бұрын
Depends on so many factors, but let me put it this way: there are basically two separate paths - content creation and filmmaking. For the former yeah I'd go with the FX3 or even the FX30 if budget is a major concern. For the latter I'd go with Pyxis or Mavo S35 mk.II. Thanks for watching!
@BrandonTalbot
Күн бұрын
If there’s any chance at all of stopping production for heat and you can’t have that, stay away from the ZV-E1 and the R5II
@unclejezza
Күн бұрын
This is a GREAT video. Totally agree with everything you have said here. The Pyxis records h264 proxies alondside the raw files. Super helpful. I bought one SPECIFICALLY for the resolution and control of the sensor as you mentioned, and the raw codec. The value proposition of that camera is currently unsurpassed. Subbed!
@shagral
Күн бұрын
Thank you and welcome!
@waveland
Күн бұрын
Well outlined and I had not considered the sensor heat dissipation issues inherent with IBIS. I appreciate you pointing that out (and yes the slow sensor on the Burano is a total deal breaker even though I’m primarily a Sony shooter these days). I’m curious to see what Sony has in store for an FX9 update. My FX6 and FX3 kit covers me for a lot of shooting situations but I would like to have a 6k 3:2 option with a 12/16-bit internal codec for those times I want/need to do more refined color work. And can the keep this under $10k? Wouldn’t that be sweet. Anyway, Sony has been slower with the FX9 update than I had imagined, but there were some rumors swirling over the summer (which have since dried up) that an announcement was close, so maybe we’ll hear something definitive soon.
@shagral
Күн бұрын
I heard those rumours too, we'll see. Thanks for watching!
@avx111
Күн бұрын
I think the only thing that can push Canon to enable Open Gate for the C400 is Sony releasing a competitive camera that has it. Otherwise, it's gonna be exclusive to their upcoming flagship (C800?), probably along a new 16-bit raw codec.
@haywoodgiles713
Күн бұрын
A man after my own aesthetic! You go, man!
@shagral
Күн бұрын
Thanks mate!
@rossclarksonHKSC
22 сағат бұрын
I also add usability into the camera choice, but lighting is the key to great images.
@shagral
18 сағат бұрын
Totally agree!
@MtZionMediaPro
Күн бұрын
Super glad i found your channel!! Subbed! 🙌🏾
@shagral
Күн бұрын
Welcome aboard 🚀
@paulbvid
Күн бұрын
Totally bro. Why I shoot on s5ii most of the time
@verebellus
Күн бұрын
i think blackmagic is still ahead of sony in regards to lower bitrate options, as you can at least choose several different compressions on the BRAW
@waveland
Күн бұрын
BRAW is a good codec but the BM sensors tend to be very limiting in real world use. If you have time, budget, and crew for lighting a Pyxis will do a nice job. At the same time, if a client is putting up a proper shooting budget then they aren’t going to be happy with BM cameras.
@verebellus
Күн бұрын
@@waveland in what way are the sensors limiting? they have really decent dynamic range for their price, perfectly acceptable readout speeds and plenty of recording options
@waveland
Күн бұрын
@@verebellus I had a pair of the full frame CC cameras which provide ISO400 and though the spec sheet says ISO3200 is the high-base it’s actually ISO1250. So if you have loads of sunlight or lots of lighting equipment then you can feed the sensor fine. But as a solo shooter often working with limited budgets and limited timeframes, feeding that sensor enough light isn’t practical. It’s a lot easier to drop ND in front of a Sony sensor set to ISO12800 than it is to light for a Pyxis maxed out at 1250.
@verebellus
Күн бұрын
@@waveland the second base is 3200, but theres a difference between digital gain and analog gain. The bases are analog gain, these can not be changed after the fact. but the iso you set the camera to is Digital gain. from iso 100-1000 its using the Low base, the lowest analog gain. and from iso 1250-6400 its using the high analog gain, after 6400 it is altering the image so much that you actually lose dynamic range. But from iso 100-1000 you can expose however you want and the highlights will be clipped the same. and you will get exactly the same highlights and shadow performance no matter which iso you choose within that range. all the digital iso does is change where it puts middle grey. i used the pocket 6k pro for about a year and if something was too dark for iso 1000 but a bit too bright for iso 1250. i would pop the nd on and use the high base instead. now blackmagic cameras cant see in the dark like sony can, but neither can the Alexa 35. it has only a single base iso, and exposing at the right iso on that camera is way more important than on a blackmagic.
@waveland
Күн бұрын
@@verebellus Yes the S35 sensors have a usable 3200 base, but the new full frame sensor used in the BMCC and the Pyxis fall apart at 3200. And for film work I never add digital gain in camera. I work from the base and adjust accordingly either in light supplied on set or via adjustments in post. And at least for me the Pyxis sensor doesn’t provide the low-light latitude needed for a lot of shooting scenarios. Combine that with single slot recording and the ridiculous bulk compared with an FX3 and I’ve sold off all my BM equipment and moved on. I will look again to see what they do for an Ursa design in between the Pyxis and the new 12k cinema camera, but at this stage I’m not likely to go back. I’m much more interested to see what Sony rolls out in terms of an FX9 replacement.
@JeffBourke
Күн бұрын
I agree that IBIS absolutely sucks but the marketing department gets their way 😂😂😂
@JeffBourke
Күн бұрын
Sony always limit the hardware because they protect other cameras in the product line.
@kipkipful
Күн бұрын
braw is the answer, but sadly it will take years for it to be truly adopted
@mfjae
Күн бұрын
Actually I think what the battle will become is eco system
@scottievee330
Күн бұрын
I bought the Canon C400. It does it all for me. The model in your video I’ve seen in a C400 video? The images were beautiful. Maybe yours?
@shagral
Күн бұрын
Huh? Can you post the link?
@waveland
Күн бұрын
I almost shifted over to the C400 but ultimately the lack of symmetrical dual slot recording put me off (an SD slot in 2024?). I had a major brand CFExpress B card die on me earlier this year. Thankfully this happened during some test shooting and I did not lose any footage owed to a client, but it definitely renewed my commitment to having full resolution dual-slot shooting on any paid project.
@Chandler_Goodrich
Күн бұрын
@@wavelandwhat’s the problem with an SD card? They are tried and true.
@waveland
Күн бұрын
@@Chandler_Goodrich Limited bandwidth. You can’t dual record RAW or the faster frame rates internally and at $8,000.00 I find that an unacceptable compromise for paid filmmaking. A lot of operators will not feel that way, but when money’s on the line I do not want to depend on a single storage slot. That’s just how I choose to run my business.
@scottievee330
Күн бұрын
@@waveland I never had a problem with SD cards. Ever. But I'd prefer 2 CFB cards too. Arri and RED use just one. Not a big deal.
@matzenn6294
Күн бұрын
Wrong B RAW is 12 bit NOT. 10 bit
@shagral
Күн бұрын
What? I never said that it was
@broskies2598
Күн бұрын
So all that and you couldn't tell us what you liked
@shagral
Күн бұрын
There's no perfect camera 🤷🏻♂️ and I'm reasonably happy with the fx6 & fx3
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