I can remember a time not that long ago when they were protesting against globalisation, now they’ve all embraced it.
@lorenzbroll101
7 күн бұрын
Frightening how the majority are so easily manipulated by MSM isn't it?
@KevinRudd-w8s
6 күн бұрын
The left were also generally against Britain joining the Common Market as what became the EU was generally known back in the day. After we joined they became its biggest fan, with a few notable exceptions.
@lorenzbroll101
6 күн бұрын
@@KevinRudd-w8s Because they then realised it was a left leaning political organisation.
@DIFESA_RAZZA_BIANCA
7 күн бұрын
Nothing worth dying for is left on this country. It remains only our race
@JohnJohnson-vd2hp
7 күн бұрын
Family !
@LordSnobbington
7 күн бұрын
"You did big potty, good boy"! DIFESA'S mummy 😂
@TimAbbott-b4b
7 күн бұрын
@@LordSnobbingtonknob jockey
@Alois_Schicklgruber
7 күн бұрын
@@Old.ScoresI think it's Jspaceman under a new moniker.
@Theoriginalbigbrillo
6 күн бұрын
Yer kids maybe , soft Arse
@JurassicRod
7 күн бұрын
Left also used to be against censorship and authoritarianism. It's all become very warped.
@Mark70609
7 күн бұрын
They are pathetic now. Bill Maher pays them out now.
@Mark70609
7 күн бұрын
@@thelleftaremad7556 not sure who you are referring to?
@Stephen-b6s
7 күн бұрын
Liberals have always been against censorship. The radical left never have. Liberals may have once been their erstwhile * allies * but they’re no longer needed
@postmodernmining
7 күн бұрын
Leftist have always supported tyrannical regimes and even helped create one, such as South Africa.
@LincsEnigma
7 күн бұрын
Starmer is a flip-flopper, so what else do you expect.
@madcarew5168
7 күн бұрын
@@LincsEnigma His family, the Growlers and acolytes have now got keys to the bunker..what better way to rid himself of those awfully working class people then poking The Putin into a few megaton.....
@danerogers9058
7 күн бұрын
All you Brits do is complain, I doubt it is going to get any better only worse.
@ANationalAcrobat-qj2dl
7 күн бұрын
I remember those anti-cruise protestors in the 1980s very well & knew some of them personally. The one thing they all had in common was that they ALL had posh accents despite being born & bred in the Newcastle-Upon-Tyne area, they were ALL university students & they ALL had rich parents. Much like today's Just Stop Oil protestors in actual fact.
@Tourist1967
7 күн бұрын
And they were all protesting against US Gryphon missiles with nuclear warheads. Not UK Storm Shadow missiles armed with conventional explosives. It was the "nuclear" aspect that got the ladies upset. Similar to protests over the UK nuclear deterrent. That's why there protests outside HMNB Faslane, the home of the Trident sub fleet, not HMNB Devonport...
@joefreebs4247
7 күн бұрын
Hypocrisy is the Hallmark of leftists
@terencemullins1422
7 күн бұрын
Absolutely
@gijgij4541
7 күн бұрын
Hallmark, with the capped-up H, are the people who make birthday cards and the like...
@charlesbeltington-smythe9229
7 күн бұрын
We need these lunatics out of office immediately!!
@JohnJohnson-vd2hp
7 күн бұрын
It's hard to believe that we have allowed someone like David Lammy to possibly drag Britain into conflict with Russia , the guy is clueless !
@michaelfraser5723
7 күн бұрын
AND ALL THE CRAZIES
@composedlight6850
7 күн бұрын
and what are YOU going to do about the situation -- nothing ?
@DHodgson
7 күн бұрын
They've changed alright, from bad to worse.
@DT-wp4hk
7 күн бұрын
3 generations of beta males with money buying women led to this
@martingibbs1869
7 күн бұрын
Those were the days when the two main parties disagreed with each other and competed for our vote rather than despised it.
@annsmith495
7 күн бұрын
Now warmongering a la Blair must be added to starmer’s list of despicable actions.
@gijgij4541
7 күн бұрын
Wasn't the war mongering initiated by the little wannabe tsar in Moscow?
@madcarew5168
7 күн бұрын
LEFT....All morals far behind....
@Mark70609
7 күн бұрын
The far left. They are out of their minds.
@CurtisJeffries-cd5vu
7 күн бұрын
Europeans r gonna have to flee n set up shop on new foreign lands. n make a new country state. it's a lost cause here.
@DT-wp4hk
7 күн бұрын
What morals?
@DT-wp4hk
7 күн бұрын
@@thelleftaremad7556 reason enough for the to call rightwinger slaves of courtsystem and courtisanes. Which is other way to call them subhumans. Btw you can't uphold laws when they are tyranical and bend AF.
@DT-wp4hk
7 күн бұрын
@@thelleftaremad7556 start using your brains and think
@britpackdog4545
7 күн бұрын
Can anyone explain why we have supposed beef with Russia? I'm lost as to a reason and please don't say Ukraine
@user-pj5ub5cp9k
7 күн бұрын
Ukraine.
@GretsGarbo-h9m
7 күн бұрын
I don't know either. Russia is not the soviet union anymore and Ukraine has not always been exactly an innocent bystander in the past.
@ANationalAcrobat-qj2dl
7 күн бұрын
We have a beef with Russia because the mainstream media has told us to.
@AdamRiddle-c3l
7 күн бұрын
Ukraine aren’t our allies
@britpackdog4545
7 күн бұрын
@@user-pj5ub5cp9k I like your spirit
@geert574
7 күн бұрын
a spoiled generation that never knew hunger or hardship
@Mark70609
7 күн бұрын
I’m sick of their incessant whining. They have never missed a meal.
@GretsGarbo-h9m
7 күн бұрын
I presume you are talking about the present generation of young people.
@GretsGarbo-h9m
7 күн бұрын
@@thelleftaremad7556 No the boomers did not. I and my family are what you call boomers and we certainly did not have it easy.
@Brookspirit
7 күн бұрын
A generation of politicians who never fought for the country are very happy to give it away to others.
@GretsGarbo-h9m
7 күн бұрын
@@thelleftaremad7556 We have all been very successful thank you very much but it certainly was not easy.
@quantum340
7 күн бұрын
I don't think it ever was about 'peace' or 'anti-war'. It always was about 'don't shoot our ideological allies, please shoot our ideological opponents'. It just took the war in Ukraine and Gaza to make that clear.
@ConradAinger
7 күн бұрын
Consicely put 💯👍
@quantum340
7 күн бұрын
Come to think of it, it was clear long before that. During the war in the Balkans in the nineties, it were usually the old peace activists and disarmament advocates that urged the most for bombing the Serbians.
@user-pj5ub5cp9k
7 күн бұрын
Nope. What it's always been about is the territorial integrity of sovereign nations, the right to self-determination, and freedom from oppression. Russia illegally occupies Ukrainian territory, Israel illegally occupies the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Putin is conducting a genocidal war against Ukrainians. Netanyahu is conducting a genocidal war against Palestinians.
@user-pj5ub5cp9k
7 күн бұрын
@@ConradAingerAnd wrong.
@jimmycampbell78
7 күн бұрын
@@user-pj5ub5cp9k i guess you can be smug then while our Prime Minister provokes World War III.
@Mr_Judge_Benny_Hinn
7 күн бұрын
I remember the leaflet through everyone’s door about Nuclear war, Protect and survive. In the 80s
@monkeymagic4555
7 күн бұрын
They are BOTH exactly the same party.....NOTHING to debate....
@GretsGarbo-h9m
7 күн бұрын
It's not the same people though. Those left wingers then are not the left wingers of today. The labour party has changed beyond recognition.
@Brookspirit
7 күн бұрын
Rage for the machine.
@Tourist1967
7 күн бұрын
Webb has got it wrong again. The protestors in the 80s were campaigning against USAF Gryphon cruise missiles' nuclear payload. A cruise missile is just a delivery system. The UK Storm Shadow delivers 450kg of conventional explosives.
@Captain_Lockheed
7 күн бұрын
As a young man I used to be called a "leftie" and a "commie" my views haven't changed much but now I'm a "right wing extremist"🤷♂️
@MrB1967
7 күн бұрын
@Captain_Lockheed that's me too!
@Captain_Lockheed
7 күн бұрын
@@MrB1967 😅
@longdewei
7 күн бұрын
Defending freedom, obviously 😂
@stephenhaywood5672
7 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@margaretpepper3550
7 күн бұрын
They were lunies then & they are lunies now...
@Crustymarine
7 күн бұрын
Yes. I remember. 1984s TV film Threads might need to be re visited as a reminder of how awful the current situation can escalate. Perhaps Threads might serve as an attention gainer for some of the youngsters who are not paying attention.
@jeffebdy
7 күн бұрын
I missed it when it came on telly as had just moved to NC USA. However, back in blighty & got it on DVD a few months ago. For such an old drama it packs a chilling punch. Also the lack of diversity in Sheffield, as compared with the here & now, is quite remarkable
@Crustymarine
7 күн бұрын
@@jeffebdy I like calling North Carolina home, too.
@stephencope7178
7 күн бұрын
A more alarming film than threads is The Day After (not to be confused with The Day After Tomorrow.) It was made in 1983 and still stands as a most realistic representation of the aftermath of a nuclear exchange.
@winco68
6 күн бұрын
The youngsters are not only not paying attention but many are fast asleep and totally apathetic to what is happening around them. It’s their call but they’ll regret their inaction in later life if they manage to make it that far.
@Spacemonkeymk1
6 күн бұрын
The scariest film I have ever seen. I watched it as a kid when it came out and still have regular nightmares 40 years later. Should be compulsory viewing in my very honest opinion. Didn't the 80s Cold War have a major thawing after this and the American equivilant, The Day After, got aired, and I seem to recall that Reagan was affected by it?
@Ballinalower
7 күн бұрын
In the 1960s i was an active member of the Labour Party. I door knocked for them, went on Ban The Bomb marches, demonstrated against Apartheid, and believed the Labour Party would improve conditions for the working class. Then they came to power and by the 1970s had trashed the economy and were bringing in low wage workers from Pakistan to keep wages down in the factories. Things started to get so bad it looked like Britain was turning into another East Germany. Lots of hard working well educated people, entrepreneurs and the well qualified began to emigrate in what was called The Brain Drain. For the sake of our kids we went to Canada. It has been great until Justin Trudeau, a sort of Starmer light but with boyish charm, decided to wreck the country to get revenge on his dad or something. Now a lot of Canadians are leaving, including many of the better recent immigrants, mainly Indians. And it looks like a brain drain has started again in Britain.
@terencemullins1422
7 күн бұрын
Labour Party, Lord of the flies comes to mind 😢
@terencemullins1422
7 күн бұрын
The hypocrisy holds no bounds
@DB-ke8bs
7 күн бұрын
As a nation, the Labour Party is apparently what we wanted and what we voted for. Time to take the consequences.
@Mark70609
7 күн бұрын
Vote in haste and regret in leisure. The Tories are the de facto Labour Party though.
@Zantorc
7 күн бұрын
A super majority from the lowest vote ever for a winning party. Fewer votes than when Jeremy Corbin lost. The problem is not that people voted Labour but that they didn't vote at all.
@GretsGarbo-h9m
7 күн бұрын
The majority of the Brits did not vote for the present day labour party. Labour got in by default and because of the "first past the post" voting system.
@GretsGarbo-h9m
7 күн бұрын
@@Zantorc Exactly. Some people just don't get it do they.
@DB-ke8bs
7 күн бұрын
@GretsGarbo-h9m That's exactly the problem. The majority didn't vote.
@lucyallsop88
7 күн бұрын
I just cannot fathom the lefty way of thinking 😮
@romeric69
7 күн бұрын
I don't think some realise how the decisions of so few are so close to annihilating so many.
@gijgij4541
7 күн бұрын
@@thelleftaremad7556 Do you know what, us boomers got all the best music as well...
@Alex_Plante
7 күн бұрын
My earliest involvement in politics was as a teenager in the early 1980s protesting against the testing of cruise missiles at Cold Lake air force base in Alberta. the testing was in Alberta, the protests were in Montreal and Ottawa.
@malcolmball2829
7 күн бұрын
I worked with a rabbid lefty woman in t late 80's...she revealed that she was 9ne of the Greenham common lot
@bh_486
7 күн бұрын
Building an underground bunker costs £150 to £300 per square foot or £30,000 to £60,000 total on average. Large, luxury doomsday bunkers cost £7 million or more.
@davidpalin1790
7 күн бұрын
I wonder how many of our soldiers have died in Ukraine 🇺🇦?
@NobbyClark-g3y
7 күн бұрын
Bet they were reported as training accidents, vehicle accidents or adventure training incidents, that used to be the old pony. A large sum paid out after signing an NDA is the usual format
@paulcalder9697
7 күн бұрын
They say up to a million
@Fat_Cat_747
7 күн бұрын
Amazing. I can't even make a joke about having nuclear war with our old enemy just south of us and KZitem deleted it within seconds. 😄
@StooFras-TheFiresofHell.
7 күн бұрын
YT are in every way complicit in covering up truths, I have thrown this at them on numerous occasions but they never get back because they cant because they know it's the truth and YT hates the truth.🤬
@babylonsburning1
7 күн бұрын
Simon, surely it is the warhead that is the issue. Cruise missles with a Nuclear warhead is not being discussed in relation to Ukraine/Russia.
@JohnJohnson-vd2hp
7 күн бұрын
Liz Truss used to camp outside Greenham Common with her Mum in the Early 1980's i believe.
@wjf0ne
7 күн бұрын
@JohnJohnson-vd2hp Were they looking for her father?
@stevemitchell4914
7 күн бұрын
With a bit of luck, Russia will send one back, and level number 10 during a cabinet meeting.
@carparkcampers8407
7 күн бұрын
The Hypocrisy is unbelievable
@peter4Flags
7 күн бұрын
We have a mad man in control
@postmodernmining
7 күн бұрын
They used to be anti-nukes but are now trying for nuclear winter.
@ant7936
7 күн бұрын
A new deterrent for global warning?
@postmodernmining
7 күн бұрын
@@ant7936 I guess. They are very dumb.
@mrcjc9298
7 күн бұрын
Those missiles had nuclear warheads. I think that’s what the protests were about.
@NAIAD49
6 күн бұрын
II think you are correct........much as I like history debunked take on things.....he has this slightly wrong....nobody is always right.
@andymyers2759
7 күн бұрын
Michael Foot is spinning fast enough to generate our energy needs for the next millennium.
@genwoolfe
7 күн бұрын
Chasing Lessers around Greenham Common was not my idea of Soldiering.
@davidlloyd2583
7 күн бұрын
So we supply the missile, identify the target from satellite, programme the missile while its loaded on the plane, in Ukraine, and we think we are not at war? I don't remember this in the manifesto?
@DavidAndrew-t3n
5 күн бұрын
I remember when rock and rollers were rebels too.
@winco68
6 күн бұрын
In the 1980s I considered myself left wing. Now i’m being told i’m far right! 🤔
@garrywynne1218
9 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂. The Overton Window. It’s crackers isn’t it
@grahamjesson5464
7 күн бұрын
Its not them it's us.! We just have core principles and honesty holding us back. Silly proles.
@peterlatham8165
7 күн бұрын
Very good at throwing money abroad, in both aid and in weapons; not so good at all at "loving" the pensioners whose taxes when working paid for this largesse. Does not "charity begins at home" mean anything? And do any of us want a war (WW3?) with Russia? Finally: largesse abroad, coupled with meanness at home is I would have thought, less typical of a responsible Prime Minister and more that of a compulsive gambler! What price mental health?
@anthonyclarke5579
7 күн бұрын
🎼Tom, Tom turn around...🎶
@cahoots289
7 күн бұрын
Showing your age there! Good tune :-)
@anthonyclarke5579
6 күн бұрын
@@cahoots289 Just a kid at 68. I'll live longer than the Labour government just to spite them.😄
@cahoots289
5 күн бұрын
@@anthonyclarke5579 thats something to aim for :-) i picked up a puzzler today to do the codeword and its given 3 letters and put them in order as well on 4 down, T O M....spooky! Blank blank blank, t o m, blank blank
@Theoriginalbigbrillo
6 күн бұрын
On a positive note, Simons conk is getting better
@avipatable
7 күн бұрын
Good to see the hooter is on the mend Simon :)
@wayneherman664
7 күн бұрын
Well under stand this we didn’t vote for this
@onetone4561
3 күн бұрын
Those were the days. Make love not war, peace to all, today's people are always angry full of hate full of division
@neddyseagoon9601
5 күн бұрын
I'm not fussed in the main, because the 80s protesters were against nuclear cruise missiles... And to a degree, who wouldn't have been concerned? Have you seen our politicians?
@guruprasadf07
6 күн бұрын
It's like watching inverted reflection of the past.
@SF-jx6it
7 күн бұрын
Yes,an upside down world indeed….!
@ianrichards4907
7 күн бұрын
starmer is a real threat to us all it seems , not just the pensioners
@williamtell6750
7 күн бұрын
Trying to understand the Russians was deemed an extreme left stance in the eighties. Today it is seen as extreme right.
@krismorgan
7 күн бұрын
Its all gone 180 degrees-madness.
@LordSnobbington
7 күн бұрын
milligan camped at Greenham Common back in the 80s when he was a lesbian 🧑🏻🎤 👊
@TommeahTommeahTommeah
7 күн бұрын
Is that when you fancied him but could never find a drag outfit that looked good enough to pull him?
@simonmilligan7497
7 күн бұрын
@Tomeah. Oh dear - me and Lord Snobbingdon? I do have some standards you know😁😁
@LordSnobbington
7 күн бұрын
@@TommeahTommeahTommeah Living in your empty head 24/7/365 🫵😉🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@GreggFellows
7 күн бұрын
@@LordSnobbington but you just it is empty 🤔🤔
@AdamRiddle-c3l
7 күн бұрын
Lordsnobbingtom is a cuck with no testosterone whose scared of black “people” so he repeats whatever low IQ lefty copes he can 🤣
@George-y6g
7 күн бұрын
Come off it Mr Webb, I distinctly recall that the cruise missiles at Greenham Common were nuclear armed, which is not the same as what is being discussed today. I also recall that the camp was more popular as a venue for butch women's get togethers than a anti-nukes protest.
@garrywynne1218
9 сағат бұрын
You are naive. The targeting system requires US telemetry guidance along with SIGINT provided by ….GCHQ. Brainless if you think there are no implications 🤷🏻
@Richard-r1x7d
7 күн бұрын
I remember and I remember a radio play about it In which a Vicar says the immortal words "180". It could have been set today in a different place.
@davidbarnes241
7 күн бұрын
I was chatting with an old friend this summer and he commented on how my principles had remained the same after the almost 50 years that we’d known each other. I objected vehemently against nuclear weapons and cruise missiles all those years ago and still have the same concerns and opinions to this day. I have refused to vote for Labour since Blair took over the leadership and I knew that things would never be the same again. Quite why Starmer, Lammy et al are in power and responsible for foreign policy is beyond me. I can only hope that we have a revolution and depose this bespectacled freak and his less than intelligent colleagues.
@jackierogers566
7 күн бұрын
They are not old Labour,they are hybrids
@Fat_Cat_747
7 күн бұрын
When one goes off, its very very hot and the wind it makes knocks over heaps of stuff.
@ant7936
7 күн бұрын
What? After a curry?
@calvinfatman7918
7 күн бұрын
What a bleeding palaver!
@AnthonyMcCaul-c9g
7 күн бұрын
Different set of circumstances Simon!
@m3photo726
6 күн бұрын
Ah, the characteristic Webb understatement … 😀
@chargeriderepeat7024
7 күн бұрын
Left and right have swapped places, Im actually leftwing by historical measures
@2002daverj
6 күн бұрын
Perhaps putin will send one back to the labour party conference.
@wilsonbrownofficial2828
6 күн бұрын
What could possibly go wrong? 🙄
@simeonbetteridge5223
7 күн бұрын
Wolf in sheep's clothing.
@Weesel71
6 күн бұрын
I would think he has trouble understanding the concept of escalation and pushing the bear too hard. Usually, it's not good for the pusher.
@lorenzbroll101
7 күн бұрын
The only thing I remember from the CND marches was that most saw it as a social event and hoping to team up with someone. In other words, it was mainly a vast knocking-shop.
@MarkDaleADV
13 сағат бұрын
Rather like the 'feely' marches on London of late!
@lorenzbroll101
13 сағат бұрын
@@MarkDaleADV If you attended back in the day - especially if young - then guaranteed 'fun' for the night. Nothing will have changed.
@mattblack6414
3 күн бұрын
And they loved coal mines.
@peterchristian541
7 күн бұрын
When I was younger there were Libertarians on the left. Not so many now it seems.
@listenwatchandwait
6 күн бұрын
Ballot box correction next time..
@VrillonAura2012
7 күн бұрын
ha-ha, i thought it was just me I remember the peace protests in London during the 80s - My lefty auntie was at greenham common too
@shdwbnndbyyt
7 күн бұрын
But the USSR was communist... Russia is not. Thus the change in left-wing thinking.
@StooFras-TheFiresofHell.
7 күн бұрын
Starmer and his cronies in the Labour party have effectively lost the plot, doesn't this Starmer character realise that in the event of a world war the UK is finished there will be no survivors, is this man a total fool with a death wish, because that's the way it looks to me.🤔
@donaldcarr8766
7 күн бұрын
Is the Labour party keen to start WWIII ?
@Alois_Schicklgruber
7 күн бұрын
It's already started.
@xcppg6648
6 күн бұрын
I think you're confusing nuclear cruise missiles with the current variety of non-nuclear ones, like Stormshsdow.
@MarkHarvey-uh8oc
7 күн бұрын
2Tier Kier DEATH-STARmer.
@securityrobot
7 күн бұрын
Bruce Kent must be going ballistic in his Coffin.
@nonoyorbusness
7 күн бұрын
Starmer is truly ...........in...........say......ne.
@beauzer36
7 күн бұрын
I remember it was sometime during the Obama years that it became ok to be openly hostile towards Russia. The Kissinger Brzezinski foreign policy philosophy which hasn't changed from administration to administration is to isolate and control Russia but they have survived and dare to prosper and defend themselves.
@gijgij4541
7 күн бұрын
Not a historian, are you? But you do appear to be a crude propagandist...
@beauzer36
7 күн бұрын
@@gijgij4541 It's funny you can't refute anything I said. Insults don't make you right.
@gijgij4541
7 күн бұрын
@@beauzer36 There were no insults? Anyway, attempting to refute nakedly partisan disinformation (aka propaganda, aka lies) directly with the protagonist is invariably a futile exercise, as it is simply met by "yes, but, yes, but", false equivalencies, small factual details denuded of all context etc. etc. Tap dancing on a blancmange is more productive.
@beauzer36
7 күн бұрын
@@gijgij4541 Saying the agenda stays the same no matter the administration is partisan? You're confused, friend.
@gijgij4541
7 күн бұрын
@@beauzer36 Not confused at all, just not ignoring the FULL run of post-Soviet international relations, whereas your version is rather selective, seemingly in support of an agenda that suits the little wannabe tsar in the Kremlin.
@spencereagle1118
7 күн бұрын
Ha ha, brilliant observation.
@orkstuff5635
7 күн бұрын
At this rate Starmer is going to be the last British Prime Minister.
@stottybox3185
7 күн бұрын
You mean, American assistance on targeting.
@getlost3346
7 күн бұрын
Is the green party quiet? That's how they got started...odd how not a word from them.
@Omega30t2RG
7 күн бұрын
Everyone wants bombs,but not everyone has the same target.
@Mark761966
6 күн бұрын
Your memory is faulty, that was nuclear armed cruise missiles. No one, except die hard pacifists, objects to conventionally armed cruise missiles.
@michaelfraser5723
7 күн бұрын
THE STARMER MISSILE CRISIS, 2024
@michaelfraser5723
7 күн бұрын
IS STARMER THE NEW CHE GUEVARA ? OR LEONID KRUSCHEV?
@donnydarko2100
7 күн бұрын
That idiot Starmer is going to drag us into a war, which will be over, for us, in the blink of a Russian eye. I was going to say, what is he thinking? But, of course, thinking has nothing to do with it. ( shakes head in disbelief )
@eliane2743
7 күн бұрын
I do remember… CND… 5 minute-warning…
@stephenhardwick4101
7 күн бұрын
Dont worry, when Mr Trump is 47 in January, all this Russia/Ukraine stuff will stop. We just have to make it till then however!!
@user-pj5ub5cp9k
7 күн бұрын
The war in Ukraine continued for the entirety of Trump's Presidency. How will he stop it?
@joeclarke7048
7 күн бұрын
My son has been saying "the Left are the new Right" for a few years now.
@Brookspirit
7 күн бұрын
Well, If you live long enough you see the world going in circles.
@johnwood2448
7 күн бұрын
Think the smirk on Kinnocks face when the American's refused to allow a military grade British made Satellite capable of guiding our American manufactured Trident and other British missiles to targets in the then Soviet Union was brilliant. We had the technology and industrial base to manufacture Military Grade Sat Nav platform but lacked the delivery system that would get it into orbit. Kinnock even used Wilson's "so called British so called Deterrent" phrase. Our distrust of the French, both mutual and developed from 1066 onwards, prevented us from joining with them to get an independent military grade sat nav system in place. Starmer has just found out what it's like to plead to someone else's better nature, usually other way round with that character. Asking the US to allow Ukraine to use US Military Sat Nav to guide Storm Shadow missiles to destroy key Russian military assets and getting a polite, softly spoken diplomatic reply. Kind of wish we had kept abreast of earlier pre Telstar navigation systems, although their accuracy was not brilliant, it could now be adapted to todays fluid battle field situation in the East of Ukraine. The Ukrainians are not letting their Country or Government down, neither is their President or Defence Minister letting them down. If our Defence Procurement Executive wasn't so historically inept and incompetent we could get a non sat nav reliant Storm Shadow or similar system into Ukraine and give them the tools they desperately need to defend them selves and survive as a Nation.
@carolramsey6287
7 күн бұрын
In the late 60s Labour and the unions were virulently opposed to Britain joining the Common Market. Look at them now.
@NigelJackson
7 күн бұрын
Yes, Tony Benn.
@BowlingCrony
7 күн бұрын
You're confusing Labour as being left wing. Blair and now Starmer look that party somewhere else from the Kinnock days
@MarkPearce-u7m
6 күн бұрын
Remember Swampy!
@argent-kestrel90
7 күн бұрын
Ironic isn't it?
@toddjesse335
7 күн бұрын
Reality has changed since teh 1980s so maybe the parties need to change with it?
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