ERRATA - I can't find in my notes where I took the 600BC dating for the ankle with a nail find, so until further notice I retract this claim of mine as an error and non-supportable by the best evidence.
@alanpennie8013
2 жыл бұрын
I was certainly surprised to hear that people were being crucified at such an early date.
@michaelsommers2356
2 жыл бұрын
Googling around a bit, it seems that before 600BCE would be appropriate for proto-Samaritan.
@Dragoderian
Жыл бұрын
And here we see intellectual honesty: or, as apologists would say, something totally impossible.
@TheSonicShoe
Жыл бұрын
I was like "600 BC is before Pilot's birth"? No shit! That's before the birth of Rome! That's not just pre-empire, that's pre-republic!
@andrewfrennier3494
Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t you just react like a fundamentalist, double down on your assertion, and say that you know in your heart it is true? :)
@lnsflare1
4 жыл бұрын
Any neighborhood that had Mr. Rogers in it was having a beautiful day by definition, regardless of the weather.
@photosynthetichermitcrab
4 жыл бұрын
And therefore a video showing that he was in the neighborhood could serve as evidence that it was in fact a beautiful day in said neighborhood at the time of filming
@teIekid
4 жыл бұрын
Well, I guess anyone living in said neighborhood could be a more reliable source than Mr Rogers himself.
@Venaloid
4 жыл бұрын
Chessmate athesits!
@rogershrum8977
4 жыл бұрын
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@rogershrum8977
4 жыл бұрын
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@Marconius6
4 жыл бұрын
"The skepticism for the Biblical text is excessive" My dude, the book is about a guy COMING BACK TO LIFE, and telling all of us how to live every moment of our lives. No amount of skepticism is too excessive for that.
@swolejeezy2603
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, like if Polybius is wrong I won’t be affected at all. But if the Bible is wrong then billions of humans have wasted their time and money and raised hundreds of generations of kids to believe falsehoods
@williamho2940
4 жыл бұрын
Also, if a man did indeed come back from the dead, that would be huge news. And no amount of book burnings would be enough to hide the event itself. Except the reality in this case is that the only source for such a claim comes from the bible.
@Marconius6
4 жыл бұрын
@@williamho2940 Even in the book he comes back to life in a sealed tomb, and then peaces out right away. So in the Bible story itself there's not much proof to be found. Unless you count the eclipse and zombies, of course.
@williamho2940
4 жыл бұрын
Eclipse and zombies?
@pauligrossinoz
4 жыл бұрын
@@williamho2940 - two New Testament references: *Matthew 27 : 45* _From noon until three in the afternoon darkness came over all the land._ *Matthew 27 : 52* _... and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life._ _They came out of the tombs after Jesus' resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people._ Supposedly that, and much more magical stuff, happened when Jesus was crucified. Those were claims that reasonably should have external corroboration. But ... don't upset IP by daring to applying _scepticism_ to those claims. His Christian persecution complex is already fully triggered.
@SpaceLordof75
4 жыл бұрын
Teacher: “Matthew, I know you copied your paper from Mark!” Matthew:”Aww man, how’d you find out?” Teacher: “Because in Chapter 2, verse 3, Mark wrote ‘He doesn’t know.’ You wrote ‘Neither do I”.
@rodneysettle8106
4 жыл бұрын
SpaceLordof75 😂🤣😂🤣🤙
@Ryansghost
3 жыл бұрын
Close enough. Good spot.
@bayardkyyako7427
3 жыл бұрын
That's a good one
@bayardkyyako7427
3 жыл бұрын
@@agadirand4four347 Proven how? Because the bibly tells you it was? If I picked up the 50th anniversary edition of the LOTR book and in Two Towers it recaps what happened in Fellowship of the Ring, does that prove that Fellowship of the Ring was a documented event and Two Towers is also because of Return of the King and since Return of the King is the sequal to TT which documented FotR that means RotK is also correct all along and that makes the trilogy true? No, it doesn't, it's not proof at all, and even if there were people of those names and they did happen to write the book, that still doesn't prove god.
@bayardkyyako7427
3 жыл бұрын
@@agadirand4four347 Always deny faith when searching for facts, faith is belief without evidence. You don't believe in Islam do you? Why not? It's just as likely Allah is the one true creator in your logic, I don't have to worry because I can look at the holy book of said religion and spot contridictions and flaws in these gods, even just one proves the "all knowing" part wrong, god being unable to fix sin is proof against "all powerful" and god killing is proof against "all loving". So god fails on every level.
@sbushido5547
4 жыл бұрын
It's sooooooo frustrating when they start whining that other ancient writings allegedly aren't treated with the same skepticism as we treat the bible. Even *_IF_* that were true, why shouldn't we hold the bible to a higher standard if the people studying it are also claiming that it's evidence for supernatural beings and events...when no one (or hardly anyone) does the same for other ancient texts?
@goldenalt3166
4 жыл бұрын
I do believe the bible. It records early Christian beliefs. It's the implication that that implies those beliefs are true that is unwarranted by historical study.
@goldenalt3166
4 жыл бұрын
@daniel letterman Not that you can't do historical study, just that, so far, historical study doesn't support the truth of any event from the New Testament. It does record an evolution of beliefs from the beginning of Christianity, which can be enlightening, but unless you want to argue that old beliefs are better than new ones, that's about it on practical impact today.
@ananonymousoyster365
4 жыл бұрын
Because it is true and you hold decidedly natural events to a higher standard, such as the burial.
@goldenalt3166
4 жыл бұрын
@@ananonymousoyster365 It's not the bible that being held to the higher standard its the citation of it as evidence. If you ask did Caesar do some particular thing, we might quote a writing that claims it. If you then said, that means you are a slave to Caesar for eternity. I would rightly say that the writing is insufficient proof of that.
@markdoldon8852
4 жыл бұрын
And in other ancient texts, mention of supernatural events is dismissed without question. Ask Mt Licona how many verses in the Quran he accepts without question. Until he can truthfully say that he accepts that the Voyages of Sinbad are true and accurate, ot that jit is historically accurate that Achilles died because his mother left his heal unprotected, he is demonstrating pure bias. The part I find funny is when Christians claim that they believe the Bible because they know that JESUS is real, and at the same time they accept Jesus "because the Bible tells me so" A perfect circle.
@charlesloeffler333
3 жыл бұрын
Criteria of Embarrassment: imagine future historians reading statements made by some politicians about the COVID pandemic and assuming they must have been faithfully made because they were so clearly false they would have been an embarrassment to the speaker otherwise
@TheArkman360
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it just makes me dislike him and not wanna listen to a thing he says.
@piesho
Жыл бұрын
Criteria of embarrassment assumes that the author of the claim is capable of experiencing shame, something that thanks to contemporary examples, is clearly not universal in humans.
@grunwald1
11 ай бұрын
Majority of political and religious leaders have narcissistic personality disorder and Christian god is prime example of dark triads - Trump on steroids pretty much - add to that cognitive dissonance and it’s easy to understand behavior of „ apologists” and members of religious sects.
@Hitsujindayo
11 ай бұрын
Except time, culture, topics are all different and matters in that context
@kyleepratt
6 ай бұрын
@@pieshooof, yeah that's a solid observation from our modern times 😬
@ramigilneas9274
4 жыл бұрын
The case against the existence of the empty tomb: -no mention of the empty tomb outside of the gospels. -no mention of Joseph or Arimathea outside of the gospels. -no mention of the town of Arimathea outside of the gospels and no archaeological evidence that this place ever existed. -Arimathea translates to something like "best disciple town“ which doesn’t sound made up at all.😉 -the romans crucified hundreds of people each week, usually they were left to rot on the cross or ditched in a mass grave, so they would most likely not allow that Jesus was placed in a tomb. -Denying crucified criminals a proper burial was an important part of the punishment. We have records of extremely rare exceptions... but never for insurrectionists like Jesus. -Paul, our earliest source doesn’t mention the empty tomb or Joseph or Arimathea. -the story looks like it was invented to fulfill a prophecy "Jesus is buried with the rich“. -the character of Joseph of Arimathea enters the story just to provide an empty tomb, then immediately leaves the story just to be never heard of again. Sounds like something written by JJ Abrams.😉 -in the beginning of the life of Jesus there were Joseph and Mary... and in the end of his life there were different people called Joseph and Mary. Sounds like something George Lucas would write... it’s like poetry, it rhymes.😉 -the empty tomb is probably the most important place ever for Christians... but somehow they immediately forgot where it was. And it has never been found.😂
@ramigilneas9274
4 жыл бұрын
Jtzkb Sure, but the empty tomb is an important part of the minimal facts argument. And if your minimal facts are that dubious then all of your other "facts“ that you are less confident in are even less likely to be true. But you are right, obviously the minimal facts argument was invented because apologists no longer wanted to defend the most ridiculous parts of the story like the zombie invasion that is only mentioned in one gospel and nowhere else.
@swolejeezy2603
4 жыл бұрын
Can’t forget the fact that Pilate in the gospels acts entirely out of character as he is described in Josephus; here he cow-tows to the Jewish mob and just allows Jesus to be an exception to the rule of all crucifixions
@Bill_Garthright
4 жыл бұрын
Good points. But I'm not sure about that last sentence, about the tomb never being found. I think that Christians have found at least two different tombs of Jesus, haven't they? Both the Garden Tomb and the Church of the Holy Sepulchre claim to be the tomb of Jesus. And since an old, empty tomb is pretty easy to find - especially since tombs were typically re-used - I wouldn't be surprised if there were more than that. But then, that's a god for you. Gods can do anything you _want_ them to do, including disappearing from two different tombs, I suppose. :) Admittedly, it seems rather careless of Christians to lose track of their most holy site, anyway. Unless maybe the people living in Jerusalem at the time knew better than to believe this nonsense, and it was just people who weren't there and merely heard the stories later who believed it?
@Bill_Garthright
4 жыл бұрын
@Sam Bacon _So, do you think that some con artist saw her coming, and decided to really cash in?_ That's likely, huh? But it wouldn't even have to be a con artist. "Lying for Jesus" could have been just as likely back then as it is today. Losing the tomb probably wasn't making Christianity _more_ believable to non-Christians. So even if suddenly "finding" it again was a lie, it was still a lie for Jesus, right? And where's the harm in _that?_ :) Admittedly, money usually ends up helping out in these situations, even if it wasn't the whole answer (which it certainly could have been). The "tomb of Jesus" was going to become a tourist attraction. And pleasing the wealthy and extremely influential _mother of the emperor_ wouldn't have been seen as a bad thing, anyway!
@ramigilneas9274
4 жыл бұрын
Bill Garthright If you visit the right places in Turkey you can buy precious artifacts. A piece of wood from the Ark for example. They found the Ark... a dozen times, and as long as gullible believers pay good money they will probably find it another dozen times.😂
@ApocryphalDude
4 жыл бұрын
IP: Modern Christians enjoy lying for Jesus but it is absurd that ancient or early Christians lied for Jesus.
@GlorifiedTruth
4 жыл бұрын
Oh God, I think I'm actually going to make it through the entire day without eating cheese. Ideal would be no more often than every other day.
@Silentsouls
4 жыл бұрын
All religeous people Are either indoctrinated from birth or lie at least to themselves. either way it is alwas based on a lie. YOu cannot go from no belief to belief a god exist without contiously making the choise. and therefore lying to yourself. Having already accepted that god exists, searching for a way to justify the choice. aka more lying to yourself with fake evidence. there is nothing honnest about a religion. it is lies on lies on lies.
@MegaeffinGarchomp17
4 жыл бұрын
And to respond to his claim that new testament is the sole victin of unfair amounts of scrutiny, most fantastic claims of historical figures are not believed until corroborated. See Alexander the great, Julius Caesar, George Washington, Albert Einstein, etc.
@coolkusti
4 жыл бұрын
@@Silentsouls This is absurd. You cannot hold a belief by choice. As long as I still believed, I believed with sincerity. It's enough to not have a functional epistemic engine, which is true of most people.
@Alex-0597
4 жыл бұрын
@@Silentsouls I'm pretty sure that, when I was born, I didn't have a belief in God. And I don't think I consciously and rationally made the choice to believe when I was raised by adults who accepted his existence as fact, was taken to church where I was taught details about him, and played with other religious kids after service. I wasn't being dishonest, just lazy in not examining my beliefs on the issue until many years later shortly before I became an atheist.
@Nethar6
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if IP is willing to accept the Quran and all other scriptures true until proven otherwise.
@southernsal3113
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. He's one-track minded. I don't think he even understands what God might be. He's just going by "bible says".
@PigglePigSwillbucket
4 жыл бұрын
of course not. he examined the evidence and found it not convincing, unlike that of Christianity
@southernsal3113
4 жыл бұрын
@@PigglePigSwillbucket just thought about this now. He'll say the bible came first 😂 😂 😂
@pizdamatii5001
4 жыл бұрын
@@southernsal3113 "He'll say the bible came first [...]" if we go by that criterion, then he should just convert to judaism and denounce jesus as a false messiah who couldn't possibly be the son of god.
@southernsal3113
4 жыл бұрын
@@pizdamatii5001 I know, right. But then, the bhagavat Gita is quite old too. So much ancient text, so little time 🤣🤣🤣
@incredulouspasta3304
4 жыл бұрын
Just tell them: "I'll stop playing the jingle when churches stop playing the jingle."
@jakemacory6035
3 жыл бұрын
Whoever believes in the Lord Jesus Christ shall not perish but have everlasting life. Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand’ Jesus is returning to judge the living and the dead!
@incredulouspasta3304
3 жыл бұрын
@@jakemacory6035 _Hums jingle_
@kyleepratt
6 ай бұрын
Well, if He does, I'll hold my trans and lesbian and gay and bi friends close and I'll go wherever they go
@Minoltalphafan
10 ай бұрын
You bet your asse I am going to apply more scrutiny to a book that tells me how to live my life and for whom than a history of some ancient military expedition.
@bobwhelan5636
4 жыл бұрын
I always thought the criterion of embarrassment was a literary device, used to make a fictional character more relatable to an audience, and has nothing to do with the study of history.
@stephenjames2951
4 жыл бұрын
We could probably cure cancer if all this effort to prove “Jesus” was redirected to more useful endeavors.
@goldenalt3166
4 жыл бұрын
Even just redirected at determining which prayer cures cancer. That would show they believe their own claims, rather than trying to hide the claims flaws.
@southernsal3113
4 жыл бұрын
I keep saying this about the criminals. If only.
@timeshark8727
4 жыл бұрын
Sadly, the quality of person that spends his/her time trying to prove Jesus would be completely useless to scientific endeavors. Mite as well ask a bunch of chimps to put on lab coats and help in the lab, at least those can be trained.
@southernsal3113
4 жыл бұрын
@@timeshark8727 I actually had to ghost my best friend, which is bad, I know, but she told me she's oblivious to the world around her, because she walks in Jesus's light. The conversation was in context of a murdered woman in her neighborhood. I live about 130km away. I knew about it, but she didn't, and that was her justification. Essentially, it was the straw that broke the camel's back. It was building from "oh, you believe in the big bang?". Ja, I couldn't anymore.
@goldenalt3166
4 жыл бұрын
@@timeshark8727 Agreed, we don't want the apologists, just the money spent on them.
@Yourghostuncle
10 ай бұрын
I think it's obvious why 1. "Alexander the Great really enjoyed bread" And 2. "A man was literally God incarnate" Have different standards of proof
@TheJimtanker
4 жыл бұрын
IP has TERRIBLE arguments but he presents them as if they were good. SMH
@ramigilneas9274
4 жыл бұрын
He is copying William Lane Craig. IP gets the unjustified confidence part right but he still hasn’t added enough smugness to be a real copy.😂
@DeconvertedMan
4 жыл бұрын
Correct.
@gowdsake7103
4 жыл бұрын
Pretty standard for an apologist
@reshearchisgood6966
4 жыл бұрын
That's a major assertion but I respect your opinion. Here is IP's response inspiringphilosophy.wordpress.com/2020/08/13/yes-jesus-was-buried-in-a-tomb-a-response-to-paulogia/
@DeconvertedMan
4 жыл бұрын
@@reshearchisgood6966 How can anyone think that someone came back to life ? Then to think well - "god" did it this way wayyyy back then when only a few people wrote down stuff and others believed in all sorts of crazy things? Yeah sure. I'm so glad I no longer believe this rubbish.
@MirandolinaAmaldin
4 жыл бұрын
A new Paulogia video? **dropping everything else**
@MirandolinaAmaldin
4 жыл бұрын
@Ad Lockhorst Luckily I never had a goldfish. Only goldfish crackers. And they survived the fall. 😄
@Ugly_German_Truths
4 жыл бұрын
get those pants back on, Missy... this is a family channel! :D (for the bible tells me so!)
@guiagaston7273
4 жыл бұрын
I never understood why IP is held in such high regard by so many Christians.
@t7u5ebuvduhyye34t
4 жыл бұрын
Hes the best they got for bringing deism to christianity
@TorianTammas
4 жыл бұрын
People like it when they don't have to think for themselves.
@tonybanks1035
4 жыл бұрын
High regard in philosophy/ethics. Not history.
@walterbrooks2329
4 жыл бұрын
He tells them what they want to hear using smart sounding words and that makes them feel smart too.
@tonybanks1035
4 жыл бұрын
@@walterbrooks2329 you just described modern youtube atheism.
@ianyboo
4 жыл бұрын
Roman Soldiers: Too elite and scary to steal a body from when they are in front of a tomb. But cut an ear off of one of them with a clumsy sword attack and they will just stand there looking stupid while your master casually bends down to pick it up and puts it back on.
@IsaacCoverstone
4 жыл бұрын
Just a minor point, but the person who got his ear cut off was a servant of the high priest, not a roman soldier.
@ianyboo
4 жыл бұрын
@@IsaacCoverstone ahh, thank you for the correction. Now that I think about it my main exposure to that part of the story has been the plays/shows about it from when I was a kid in church. So when I read the Bible as an adult my mind probably just inserted Roman soldiers into the role since that's all I had seen. Kinda like every Noah movie has him begging and pleading with the people to prepare for the incoming flood and then getting laughed at. Even though that scene never happens in the actual story.
@TorianTammas
4 жыл бұрын
@@IsaacCoverstone If in the middle of the night one groups surround another and a fight starts then everyone gets killed. This is just another fantasy story. By the way if the Romans even had suspected a guy who is considered a king of the Jews they would have send Roman legionairies and they had killed everybody. The story presented in the gospels makes no sense. It is even whitewashed to appeal to the Romans.
@ThEjOkErIsWiLd00
4 жыл бұрын
lol, your "silly jingles" sure did rub him the wrong way.
@letsomethingshine
4 жыл бұрын
That silly jingle must have been calling to his baser nature like a siren in the sea.
@jakemacory6035
3 жыл бұрын
Whoever believes in the Lord Jesus Christ shall not perish but have everlasting life. Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand’ Jesus is returning to judge the living and the dead!
@dickersoncharlie4961
11 ай бұрын
@@jakemacory6035useing mathematics (it's one of the 4 branches of science) there is a good argument with evidence I can use to prove God exist. There are Physicist that have done math to show the likely hood of our universe happening "by chance" and they counted every variable for it. One stated that for life to come from nothing (which violates the biological law that life can only come from other life), nothing being molecules accidently arranged them selves to make the first DNA to mindless form into the first living cell is comparable to a tornado going into a scrap metal yard and building a passenger airplane by chance. The math showed there is a 10^40,000 in 1 Chance of that happening though natural process. To put that into perspective, if you could speak 32 Zeros in 6 seconds it would take you 4 hours to say that whole number. And it would take about 38 pieces of paper to write out the full number as well. I can't believe something that has that small of a number behind it. It would be illogical for me to believe that the universe "accidentally" was created from a huge unorganized explosion (Big bang theory, nothing created everything) made laws of physics that line up for life to exist in the first place. (Protons neutrons and electrons having the ability to even combine together to make Anything in the universe including life forms, and there's no logic or thought behind something so complect and complicated happended by a mere 10^40'000 in one chance. So by the creation of the universe it's self, and seeing how wonderful and good it was created, It would be more illogical to Believe nothing caused it. In a way, believing something like that is it own fairy tail. It's just more intellectual.
@facundotorres175
Ай бұрын
@jakemacory6035 that's a straight up lie, you die either way
@gustavlarsson7494
4 жыл бұрын
This is one of your best, Paul. So clear, precise, calm and polite - yet delivering one of the sickest burn I've seen in quite some time! 💚👌
@Paulogia
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@Bill_Garthright
4 жыл бұрын
@daniel letterman To my mind, this is the value of diversity. I mean, I love Paul's videos. But I also love the Scathing Atheist. We don't have to be calm _all_ the time, and a variety of approaches are almost certain to be more valuable than one. Or more fun, at least. :)
@johnkneeshaw8008
4 жыл бұрын
Is IP just the modern-day Duane Gish? He just spews out a long string of bogus claims that his opponents then go around cleaning up.
@pauljimerson8218
4 жыл бұрын
Get ur saddle ready for the gallop
@reeceguisse17
4 жыл бұрын
~15:00-16:00 "No reason for Christians to invent..." Is he reading from the same text as the rest of us?
@pdoylemi
4 жыл бұрын
I am not sure that they intentionally invented. If you see old tapes of some of Charlie Manson's followers - they were willing to die for him - and several would have had not California banned the death penalty before they were executed, and they would have gone to their graves singing his praises! Or films of followers of David Koresh, many of whom DID die for him, attested to his miraculous healing powers as the 2nd coming. I saw it recently - my neighbor (who is an honest, but weird evangelical gay guy who sleeps with his live in boyfriend, but stays married to and living with his evangelical wife - because Jesus said divorce is wrong) strongly defended Trump's idea to look into injecting people with disinfectants the night he said it, and the next day, when Trump (after being ridiculed by most of the world) claimed he was sarcastically trolling reporters) he expressed his disbelief that I could be so dense as to not see that it was obviously a joke! His cult leader hit a reset button in his brain, and the new truth that I think he fully believed was that anyone could see he was joking... except that my neighbor had not, until he was told to believe that.
@thesacredlobo
4 жыл бұрын
@@pdoylemi Jeez, I still remember seeing a clip of an evangelical Trump supporter on the news claim they wouldn't believe Trump was lying about things even if Jesus came down and personally told him that was Trump was lying.
@pdoylemi
4 жыл бұрын
@@thesacredlobo Yep - that is how cults work. I still recall my brother and I being Altar Boys in 1968. We were Navy brats and went to a church run by a Navy chaplain. Our old (and pretty cool) young chaplain was transferred, and replaced with an old guy with a crew cut. My brother had long (but not by the standards of the time) hair, and Father Pohl said he could not be an altar boy if he did not get a "high and tight" haircut. My brother, being the rebellious kid he was, pointed at the crucifix above the altar, and said, "Jesus' hair was a lot longer than mine!" And this guy said, "If Jesus himself showed up here looking like that, I would NOT let him on this altar!" How nuts is that? A priest of god, claiming that he would not let god set foot on the altar of god, because he did not like his hair!
@XDRONIN
4 жыл бұрын
Just to point out at (Ironically named) Inspired Philosophy when he said,... *_"The Skepticism for the biblical text is excessive and not the same when it comes to other ancient documents"_* Eh... Not true, I have never heard from no one single Atheist, Agnostic Philosopher, Historian or otherwise say something similar to *"I am very skeptic of the stories from the Christian Bible but, The Odyssey by Homer, those are completely historical factual, The Epic of Gilgamesh, now that's totally factual."* NO ONE Ever said anything like that.
@ramigilneas9274
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we are much too skeptical about extremely implausible stories about magic.😂
@swolejeezy2603
4 жыл бұрын
“Noah’s Ark? Bullshit. Ishtar propositioning Gilgamesh for sexy time? Now that’s historical FACT”
@thesacredlobo
4 жыл бұрын
Well obviously IP is just mad that we don't treat documents that claim person x was the governor of area y between the years of a - b the same as the Bible. Of course, the notion that some person was the governor of an area during a certain time frame isn't exactly an amazing claim with world changing consequences if we accept the document as true.
@swolejeezy2603
4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention, whether or not Plato was right about Atlantis (since he is the source for all later texts on the island) has no bearing on what schools will teach my kids or what will be forced on us through the government. With Christianity, we cannot afford for this shit to be wrong if it is wrong
@TheLithp
6 ай бұрын
If there's any truth in his claim that there's excessive skepticism of the Bible, it's probably because they aggressively put people on the defensive. So many Christians would nag me about how learning about Jesus's life is the most important thing, & wouldn't take no for an answer, that when I finally relented and realized just how much our knowledge of the historical Jedus was overhyped, it persuaded me for several years that there wasn't even a convincing case that the man existed. I've since changed my mind back to my original stance based on information I've encountered since, but if they didn't constantly pester me to have scholar-level responses, I would have never stopped taking his existence for granted & needed that additional proof in the first place.
@southernsal3113
4 жыл бұрын
Oh, Inspiring Philosophy! Right! This guy is confused as hell! If someone wants to believe in myths or fairytales, they should go ahead, but coming up with these garbage... Arguments?? Is deceitful at best. It didn't convince me. I wonder how many it DID CONVINCE? 🤔 🤦♀️💔
@tompaine4044
4 жыл бұрын
It makes one wonder if those arguments are what convinced him, and if not, what he hopes to accomplish by debating those points.
@southernsal3113
4 жыл бұрын
@@tompaine4044 maybe it's more to convince himself rather than others. I watched a video by Anti Citizen X in which I. P. makes the same argument, stating that "there's no reason to doubt our beliefs, unless we can find a reason". I think he called it "epistemic particularism". But I find this least convincing. Because knowledge, or information isn't inherent or "written on our hearts" , we learn as we go. And we choose which info to keep and which to discard. Apologists choose to keep wrong info, and proceed to build their lives around it. Unbelievable!
@pauligrossinoz
4 жыл бұрын
@@southernsal3113 IP's position isn't just unconvincing, it's downright _hypocritical._ If he treated the magical stuff in the *Quran* the same way as the Bible, then he'd have to conclude that the Quran is just as true as the Bible. But no. He's special-pleading the Bible, but at the same time viewing the Quran with the scepticism it actually deserves.
@walterbrooks2329
4 жыл бұрын
@@southernsal3113 "epistemic particularism" = a fancy name for shifting the burden of proof
@dickersoncharlie4961
11 ай бұрын
@@southernsal3113useing mathematics (it's one of the 4 branches of science) there is a good argument with evidence I can use to prove God exist. There are Physicist that have done math to show the likely hood of our universe happening "by chance" and they counted every variable for it. One stated that for life to come from nothing (which violates the biological law that life can only come from other life), nothing being molecules accidently arranged them selves to make the first DNA to mindless form into the first living cell is comparable to a tornado going into a scrap metal yard and building a passenger airplane by chance. The math showed there is a 10^40,000 in 1 Chance of that happening though natural process. To put that into perspective, if you could speak 32 Zeros in 6 seconds it would take you 4 hours to say that whole number. And it would take about 38 pieces of paper to write out the full number as well. I can't believe something that has that small of a number behind it. It would be illogical for me to believe that the universe "accidentally" was created from a huge unorganized explosion (Big bang theory, nothing created everything) made laws of physics that line up for life to exist in the first place. (Protons neutrons and electrons having the ability to even combine together to make Anything in the universe including life forms, and there's no logic or thought behind something so complect and complicated happended by a mere 10^40'000 in one chance. So by the creation of the universe it's self, and seeing how wonderful and good it was created, It would be more illogical to Believe nothing caused it. In a way, believing something like that is it own fairy tail. It's just more intellectual.
@bengreen171
4 жыл бұрын
What? IP's skim-reading of the source material results in him getting it wrong? why, I declare myself absolutely surprised........ I wish there was a silly jingle that could play every time IP does this.
@Paulogia
4 жыл бұрын
maybe we need a new one.
@bengreen171
4 жыл бұрын
@@Paulogia I'd love to hear "speed reader" set to the refrain of Gene Genie...
@walterbrooks2329
4 жыл бұрын
IP has the courtroom analogy backwards, ancient texts are accused of being true. They are innocent of being true until they are proven guilty of being true.
@benwright738
3 жыл бұрын
Innocence implies truth. Guilt implies falsehood. So no.
@walterbrooks2329
3 жыл бұрын
@@benwright738 incorrect. That's not how the burden of proof works. In logic or in a courtroom. The ancient texts are making claims about what happened in the past. The default position is to not believe the claims until the claims are supported by evidence. In a courtroom the defendant is accused of a crime. The default position (of the judge or jury) is to not believe the accusation until the accusation is supported by sufficient evidence. This is the essence of "innocent until proven guilty". The default position on ancient texts is to not believe them (i.e. they are innocent of being true) until the claims in the texts are supported by evidence (i.e. they are guilty of being true). The implication that innocent=true and guilty=false is completely misplaced here. The more correct perspective is guilty verdict=claim/accusation is supported by evidence and innocent verdict=claim/accusation is not supported by evidence.
@dickersoncharlie4961
11 ай бұрын
@@walterbrooks2329useing mathematics (it's one of the 4 branches of science) there is a good argument with evidence I can use to prove God exist. There are Physicist that have done math to show the likely hood of our universe happening "by chance" and they counted every variable for it. One stated that for life to come from nothing (which violates the biological law that life can only come from other life), nothing being molecules accidently arranged them selves to make the first DNA to mindless form into the first living cell is comparable to a tornado going into a scrap metal yard and building a passenger airplane by chance. The math showed there is a 10^40,000 in 1 Chance of that happening though natural process. To put that into perspective, if you could speak 32 Zeros in 6 seconds it would take you 4 hours to say that whole number. And it would take about 38 pieces of paper to write out the full number as well. I can't believe something that has that small of a number behind it. It would be illogical for me to believe that the universe "accidentally" was created from a huge unorganized explosion (Big bang theory, nothing created everything) made laws of physics that line up for life to exist in the first place. (Protons neutrons and electrons having the ability to even combine together to make Anything in the universe including life forms, and there's no logic or thought behind something so complect and complicated happended by a mere 10^40'000 in one chance. So by the creation of the universe it's self, and seeing how wonderful and good it was created, It would be more illogical to Believe nothing caused it. In a way, believing something like that is it own fairy tail. It's just more intellectual.
@bazstrutt8247
4 жыл бұрын
Even before watching it, Inspiring Philosophy does often use music in his videos to try and emotionally manipulate his audience
@bonnie43uk
4 жыл бұрын
Very much so Baz. To be fair to him, his video's are very professional looking. You can see that many Christians will be convinced by his video's.
@nunyabisnass1141
4 жыл бұрын
@@bonnie43uk they would have been convinced otherwise, since the large majority of his comments are of two flavours. 1) they are in awe of his "reaserach" and depth of insight (describing an inability to comprehend but since it doesn't directly challange anything they already believe then must be true), and 2) you agree with me. Its incredulity and ignorance mostly, and even at times when his followers recite his videos completely wrong to defend or agree with him, he only addresses the dissenters calling him out directly...or used to. I don't actually know what his online presence is anymore these days since he hasn't made many physics based videos that are much easier for me to criticise.
@bonnie43uk
4 жыл бұрын
@@nunyabisnass1141 How are you with evolution nunya?, I'm in conversation on a different video with a Christian who is demanding I give him 3 empirical proofs of evolution. It's not a subject I'm well versed in other than I'm pretty sure it's the only game in town.
@bonnie43uk
4 жыл бұрын
@daniel letterman cheers for that daniel, i will check out those sites, this guy is a real tool, I've even told him that even if Richard Dawkins himself gave him proof, he would not accept it. He's a young earth creationist.
@thesacredlobo
4 жыл бұрын
@@bonnie43uk - Good luck, but in my experience arguing with young earth creationists tends to be rather useless. It's sort of like arguing with flat earthers. They didn't reach their conclusions because of evidence, but because of religious faith. As such they are starting from the position that they have the truth and can't be convinced other wise.
@pmtoner9852
4 жыл бұрын
inspiringphilosophy makes the laughable claim that we don't have the same skepticism of ancient works as we do have of the New testament. Works such as The Odyssey The epic of Gilgamesh Story of Atlantis from Plato The story of Theseus and the Minotaur The story of Perseus and Medusa.
@RickReasonnz
4 жыл бұрын
I... think I see a pattern here!
@pauligrossinoz
4 жыл бұрын
... and the *Quran.*
@PrometheanRising
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention claims that Caesar was a deity. No historian is taking that claim seriously. The reality is that the kinds of claims that the Bible makes are basically dismissed out of hand by historians examining any other work. This means that the claims of the Bible are already getting special and favorable treatment. This is only because those claims have made it down to the present while being accepted as true and significant to large numbers of people. By contrast, if Julius Caesar won some battle with greater casualties on his side, or even whether the battle happened at all really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Even so, historians will pick over such claims with a fine-toothed comb to try to better understand what happened. When a claim has so much more riding on it, it is only rational that the details of the claims be given the highest level of scrutiny in an effort to determine their veracity.
@brendarua01
4 жыл бұрын
Nice examination. I had a chuckle to think that an apologist would have the burial and thus the resurection hang on a probability. One not even seeded or given a margin of error - thus only pseudo grounding. The emperor has no clothes.
@Paulogia
4 жыл бұрын
No clothes, and it's winter.
@pauligrossinoz
4 жыл бұрын
... winter in _Antarctica._
@Venaloid
3 жыл бұрын
IP must know that he's lying, or at least selectively editing the truth. His own source included an exception for capital punishment, which he didn't mention. In another instance, when discussing Noah's Flood, IP asserted that Genesis doesn't state or even imply that the flood was global, even though Genesis 6 and 7 clearly do state/imply this at least four times. IP knows that he's lying.
@dickersoncharlie4961
11 ай бұрын
useing mathematics (it's one of the 4 branches of science) there is a good argument with evidence I can use to prove God exist. There are Physicist that have done math to show the likely hood of our universe happening "by chance" and they counted every variable for it. One stated that for life to come from nothing (which violates the biological law that life can only come from other life), nothing being molecules accidently arranged them selves to make the first DNA to mindless form into the first living cell is comparable to a tornado going into a scrap metal yard and building a passenger airplane by chance. The math showed there is a 10^40,000 in 1 Chance of that happening though natural process. To put that into perspective, if you could speak 32 Zeros in 6 seconds it would take you 4 hours to say that whole number. And it would take about 38 pieces of paper to write out the full number as well. I can't believe something that has that small of a number behind it. It would be illogical for me to believe that the universe "accidentally" was created from a huge unorganized explosion (Big bang theory, nothing created everything) made laws of physics that line up for life to exist in the first place. (Protons neutrons and electrons having the ability to even combine together to make Anything in the universe including life forms, and there's no logic or thought behind something so complect and complicated happended by a mere 10^40'000 in one chance. So by the creation of the universe it's self, and seeing how wonderful and good it was created, It would be more illogical to Believe nothing caused it. In a way, believing something like that is it own fairy tail. It's just more intellectual
@mylord9340
4 жыл бұрын
IP is like a person married to a disagreeable spouse evident to all, but he desperately wants to prove to the rest of the world that his spouse is desirable. He is an exemplar of those who practice confirmation bias.
@Venaloid
4 жыл бұрын
I can't escape the conclusion that IP thinks absurdity is his personal burden to bear, not God's. No matter what it takes, dishonest readings of the Bible, or implausible ontologies like objective idealism, he'll do it; he'll make his outlook absurd so that God doesn't have to be absurd himself.
@mylord9340
4 жыл бұрын
@@Venaloid yes, his obsession seems pathological.
@TorianTammas
4 жыл бұрын
my Lord- He has an imaginary girlfriend who no one has ever seen, but he comes around with scribbles and pretend it is a picture of her.
@pavld335
3 жыл бұрын
He comes across as a very arrogant person and that arrogance makes him an unbearable person.
@atheistechoes9594
3 жыл бұрын
Ah but im prone to confirmation bias and im atheist so yeah
@brettbrewer6091
4 жыл бұрын
Criteria of embarrassment using Elvis analogy. Elvis was found dead in his own vomit on a bathroom floor. Embarrassing facts retconned into a favorable story- Elvis was seen alive a few days later and ascended to heaven, no one saw this except his biggest fans.
@pdoylemi
4 жыл бұрын
No - Elvis was taken by aliens, and later returned to work in a Kalamazoo, Michigan Burger King you heretic!
@RickMason-yj7pv
4 жыл бұрын
They know Elvis died on the crapper because he left a log.
@istvansipos9940
4 жыл бұрын
"hi, I am a guy making vieos to protect crissssschanitee" so... a mortal has to use technology invented by mortals to defend the cult of an almighty wizard. seems legit
@Paulogia
4 жыл бұрын
ha
@istvansipos9940
4 жыл бұрын
@@Paulogia that's a bit too short for me (a non-native speaker), but I've googled it. ha: used to express surprise, suspicion, triumph, etc what exactly do you mean?
@swolejeezy2603
4 жыл бұрын
daniel letterman That’s funny because Tolkien envisioned that Middle Earth gave way to the modern world as magical races and creatures slowly died out and disappeared
@istvansipos9940
4 жыл бұрын
@Ad Lockhorst ?? Exactly. That funny contradiction was my only point. I started the comment by quoting the guy.
@imjessietr29
4 жыл бұрын
Swole Jeezy Just like how Yahweh can walk with you in a garden in the first book but can only be accessed by dreams by the last book.
@kevincrady2831
4 жыл бұрын
Pharaoh Khufu was buried in a tomb that was found to be empty. Therefore, Pharaoh Khufu was resurrected as the Living Horus and dwells with the Gods and Goddesses as a glorified Akh. Hail Khufu the ever-living! Life, health, and prosperity!
@ShannonQ
4 жыл бұрын
First
@That-Guy_
4 жыл бұрын
=( You beat me here Love your work =)
@tonydarcy1606
4 жыл бұрын
Insider trading ?
@davidmoran4675
4 жыл бұрын
Shannon doesn't count... she and Paul are tight, he probably calls her as he's dropping the video just so she can say FIRST!🤔😹
@Paulogia
4 жыл бұрын
awww. ❤️
@ulfhazelcreek8108
4 жыл бұрын
So.... Zeus was real because the Illiad tells me so. Awesome.
@robertdullnig3625
3 жыл бұрын
Mike might not use jingles, but he definitely uses swelling, dramatic underscoring in many of his videos to make his points seem greater than they are. His videos are full of comments from Christians talking about how they got goosebumps from watching his material.
@TheArkman360
Жыл бұрын
The music in IP's videos is so fucking annoying
@DanTheMeek
4 жыл бұрын
24:45 - Remember when you asked for meaningful quotes from your videos, things that really stood out as powerful/meaningful to your viewers? The quote starting at this moment was one. "The question I have to ask is, why is your standard of evidence so low?" "If this collection of books is divinely inspired and is worthy of shaping my life, why would anyone need to advocate a lowering of standards in order to accept it."
@pauligrossinoz
4 жыл бұрын
_Especially_ when such low standards necessarily mean that the *Quran* has to be true as well. Leading to the obvious contradictions ...
@dickersoncharlie4961
11 ай бұрын
useing mathematics (it's one of the 4 branches of science) there is a good argument with evidence I can use to prove God exist. There are Physicist that have done math to show the likely hood of our universe happening "by chance" and they counted every variable for it. One stated that for life to come from nothing (which violates the biological law that life can only come from other life), nothing being molecules accidently arranged them selves to make the first DNA to mindless form into the first living cell is comparable to a tornado going into a scrap metal yard and building a passenger airplane by chance. The math showed there is a 10^40,000 in 1 Chance of that happening though natural process. To put that into perspective, if you could speak 32 Zeros in 6 seconds it would take you 4 hours to say that whole number. And it would take about 38 pieces of paper to write out the full number as well. I can't believe something that has that small of a number behind it. It would be illogical for me to believe that the universe "accidentally" was created from a huge unorganized explosion (Big bang theory, nothing created everything) made laws of physics that line up for life to exist in the first place. (Protons neutrons and electrons having the ability to even combine together to make Anything in the universe including life forms, and there's no logic or thought behind something so complect and complicated happended by a mere 10^40'000 in one chance. So by the creation of the universe it's self, and seeing how wonderful and good it was created, It would be more illogical to Believe nothing caused it. In a way, believing something like that is it own fairy tail. It's just more intellectual.
@grayintheuk8021
4 жыл бұрын
I really like your content and style. Please keep it up. I was born into Christianity with the living fear of hell and nightmares as an adult. This work you do is very important so please know it makes a real difference and helps more than I can say. Thank you Paul.
@grayintheuk8021
4 жыл бұрын
@daniel letterman Many thanks Daniel, Yes it's certainly a load off my mind to be able to drop the religious dogma. On the outside it's such rubbish, how can anyone think it's real. I really think that childhood indoctrination is a massive thing to counter and stop. I've been told by therapist that it amounts to child abuse. Giving little children the horrifying graphics of an eternity of hell is just terrible. Some versions don't do this by mine certainly did. Adults should wait until children grow old enough to develop critical thinking skills. If any of this rubbish about gods were true it would still be true when they could think about it sensibly. All my family and friends just know there is a god. That is never questioned. Like the sun, moon, wind, rain and a god. All equally being true. As a Christian you only need to pick the flavour you like the best. When I started asking how do we know there is a god in the first place the look of terror on faces was just .... err 'this does not compute!! error error. If people taught children how to think instead of what to think I honestly imagine most of this rubbish would disappear in a generation. The logical disconnect religious people need to have to make it all fit is astounding. Sorry I think this all makes me very cross and I want to stand outside churches with a megaphone shouting 'wake up' to the people come out the doors. (I'm not but wow this must be the angry phase I've heard about) Best Gray
@grunwald1
11 ай бұрын
It’s called narcissistic abuse. I was told as a child that I’m a worthless pos, and sinner and the guy on the cross was tortured and murdered because of me. His representatives ( catholic pedos btw) told me that if I don’t do as they say- almighty, FORGIVING and LOVING god will torture me in hell for eternity. And btw oryginal sin - it’s women’s fault- this are hallmarks, and behavior typical for narcissists. The more empathy You have- the more You are going to suffer- „ thieves don’t break into empty houses”. I wish You guys all the best and quick recovery from religious abuse 💕
@GameTimeWhy
8 ай бұрын
@@grunwald1i hope you are doing better now. That's terrible
@MegaAnimeforlife
6 ай бұрын
@@grayintheuk8021i was a fundamentalist Christian as well out of fear it took one of my best friends who was Jewish and didn't think believe in Jesus dying in a car accident to shake my beliefs it mentally destoryed me why a loving god would send a kind loving person to hell forever for having the wrong theological beliefs it kinda contradicts the old testament and god saying I will not stay angry forever lol my friends ancestors were holocaust survivors and i tried to get him to convert and he told me I'd rather be in hell with my family and ancestors then alone in heaven with strangers this destroyed my mental health for years trying to reconcile my Christian beliefs with the morally evil version of the afterlife Christianity has.why would a loving god send good innocent people to a forever hell just for not believing in Jesus it's horrible.
@grayintheuk8021
6 ай бұрын
@@MegaAnimeforlife Thanks for sharing that and I'm sorry for your loss. He sounds like a very kind and loving person. Deconstruction you faith can be very difficult and stressful so well done for breaking away. I wish you the best and if you are struggling then I'm happy to chat or there is the recovery from religion organisation that have trained councillors to help all of all that have left or are thinking of leaving organised religions. Be well.
@heteroclitus
4 жыл бұрын
Silly jingle? I find your intro music to be quite uplifting, actually.
@ApocryphalDude
4 жыл бұрын
Is IP calling the bars to a Sunday school song a silly jingle?
@Amateur0Visionary
4 жыл бұрын
I dont think the intro music was being referred to. I believe he meant things like the "For the Bible Tells Me So" jingle.
@heteroclitus
4 жыл бұрын
@@Amateur0Visionary I suspect you are right, I just needed to work in a comment about how much I like the intro :D
@Amateur0Visionary
4 жыл бұрын
@@heteroclitus me too! Isn't it a great tune?
@kristianmurphy4833
4 жыл бұрын
I love for the bible tells me so, keep using it. Now whenever I'm debating the bible I hear it in my head.
@2tonetony319
4 жыл бұрын
That Christian apologists have to resort to the criterion of embarrassment is the real embarrassment.
@dickersoncharlie4961
11 ай бұрын
useing mathematics (it's one of the 4 branches of science) there is a good argument with evidence I can use to prove God exist. There are Physicist that have done math to show the likely hood of our universe happening "by chance" and they counted every variable for it. One stated that for life to come from nothing (which violates the biological law that life can only come from other life), nothing being molecules accidently arranged them selves to make the first DNA to mindless form into the first living cell is comparable to a tornado going into a scrap metal yard and building a passenger airplane by chance. The math showed there is a 10^40,000 in 1 Chance of that happening though natural process. To put that into perspective, if you could speak 32 Zeros in 6 seconds it would take you 4 hours to say that whole number. And it would take about 38 pieces of paper to write out the full number as well. I can't believe something that has that small of a number behind it. It would be illogical for me to believe that the universe "accidentally" was created from a huge unorganized explosion (Big bang theory, nothing created everything) made laws of physics that line up for life to exist in the first place. (Protons neutrons and electrons having the ability to even combine together to make Anything in the universe including life forms, and there's no logic or thought behind something so complect and complicated happended by a mere 10^40'000 in one chance. So by the creation of the universe it's self, and seeing how wonderful and good it was created, It would be more illogical to Believe nothing caused it. In a way, believing something like that is it own fairy tail. It's just more intellectual.
@rayceeya8659
4 жыл бұрын
Creationists: "The bible is the most popular book in the world ever" This Creationist: "We don't have the same level of skepticism as other ancient works" YOU DON'T SAY?
@TheJimtanker
4 жыл бұрын
The bible is the best selling and least read book in history.
@grrsss8335
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheJimtanker also the most stolen.
@TheJimtanker
4 жыл бұрын
@@grrsss8335 I prefer playing the "Hide the Bible Game" when I'm in a hotel like I was over this past weekend. Yes, there is such a thing and there are rules. Jeff Dee used to have a website with the rules on it, not sure if it is still up.
@wumblebumble
4 жыл бұрын
If you think IP is a creationist you have done zero homework. And if you treat every Christian as a "creationist" you're going to have trouble doing meaningful conversation. Also how does Creationism have anything to do with this topic?
@dennisbast743
4 жыл бұрын
@@wumblebumble Easy, Mr. Henrigillis, "People who live in glass houses......" Before you get all offended, you may wish to consider how you "creationists" have intentionally mislabeled non-believers over the centuries. Not to mention the severe consequences of the intentional slander that continues to this day. Being called creationist might offend your delicate sensibilities, but it won't cost you your goddamn life! And whether you like it or not your entire religion is being represented by Creationists & Fundies while moderates and liberal Xians sit on their hands whining about how they're being tarred with the same brush. Tough! Then get off your lazy ass and YOU go have a "meaningful conversation" with these knotheads! Maybe you all can come to an understanding on how many angels can dance on a pinhead! Stay safe Be well
@PolarisNC001
4 жыл бұрын
So Pilate might well have allowed crucifixion victims to be taken down and buried, but probably only if it was a significant holiday... Like say, Good Friday? (kidding! just kidding!)
@tonydarcy1606
4 жыл бұрын
Apparently even the brightest Christian apologists are scratching around for evidence of how the body of Jesus *MIGHT* have been disposed of ! Either way, tomb or mass grave, he apparently floated his way back to heaven, depending on the Gospel story you believe, to sit beside himself on his own right hand side. Maybe the Christian apologists should now concentrate on the empty mass grave ? Well Jesus wasn't there either, so therefore he resurrected ! ( Head meets table. )
@JerryPenna
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting point: how do you sit at the right hand of yourself? 🤔
@hexum7
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and, apparently, jesus could totally resurrect his own bad self, but couldn't heal the wounds in his hands
@dickersoncharlie4961
11 ай бұрын
useing mathematics (it's one of the 4 branches of science) there is a good argument with evidence I can use to prove God exist. There are Physicist that have done math to show the likely hood of our universe happening "by chance" and they counted every variable for it. One stated that for life to come from nothing (which violates the biological law that life can only come from other life), nothing being molecules accidently arranged them selves to make the first DNA to mindless form into the first living cell is comparable to a tornado going into a scrap metal yard and building a passenger airplane by chance. The math showed there is a 10^40,000 in 1 Chance of that happening though natural process. To put that into perspective, if you could speak 32 Zeros in 6 seconds it would take you 4 hours to say that whole number. And it would take about 38 pieces of paper to write out the full number as well. I can't believe something that has that small of a number behind it. It would be illogical for me to believe that the universe "accidentally" was created from a huge unorganized explosion (Big bang theory, nothing created everything) made laws of physics that line up for life to exist in the first place. (Protons neutrons and electrons having the ability to even combine together to make Anything in the universe including life forms, and there's no logic or thought behind something so complect and complicated happended by a mere 10^40'000 in one chance. So by the creation of the universe it's self, and seeing how wonderful and good it was created, It would be more illogical to Believe nothing caused it. In a way, believing something like that is it own fairy tail. It's just more intellectual.
@VisiblyPinkUnicorn
4 жыл бұрын
IP: "We don't have the same level of skepticism employed for other ancient works as we see thrown at the New Testament" Me: "Could it be because most of the ancient works similar to the Bible are rightfully classified as epic fantasy instead of holy books?"
@WapitalismandWreedom
Жыл бұрын
ikr? Like nobody take the Odyssey as fact. Or the Divine Comedy.
@danniealexander4131
4 жыл бұрын
You know I dont care if Jesus was given a proper burial. But the part where it says he rose from the dead is what has me concerned. He could have risen from mass crave too
@LogicAndReason2025
4 жыл бұрын
Right. Even if he was burned on a pyre. Given that he's supposed to be omnipotent, that shouldn't have been a problem. It certainly would have been a more impressive trick.
@Tyranastrasza
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but the story would have a different flavor to it, don't you think ?
@Revanbzn
4 жыл бұрын
well it's harder to rise back to life inside a sealed coffin, especially if stone made
@LogicAndReason2025
4 жыл бұрын
@@Revanbzn No problem for an omnipotent sorcerer. BS is Omni-excuse. That's why apologists love it.
@Bill_Garthright
4 жыл бұрын
Yup. I mean, even zombies can crawl out of graves. So why is that such a big trick for a _god?_ :)
@toblexson5020
4 жыл бұрын
So I'm not an expert at reading historical writings, but surely the story of Jesus (if it is read with the same scrutiny as other writings) only implies that an important leader lived once, started a religion, was a nuisance to the Romans, and was crucified. A lot of the details are more likely to be legend and exageration than fact. We know that sirens, minotaurs, harpies and more are legends often based upon exagerated encounters with creatures or other people. Unless I'm wrong, when reading historical sources, we discard magical and unlikely acts or encounters until we have evidence supporting them, or a natural explanation of the situation. This should also be the case for modern 'factual' writings. All the similar writings about the Loch Ness Monster would appear to add crediability to the creature existing, but the strong evidence that a creature that size could live in the loch, and the lack of any material evidence, means that it is best to disregard the monster as a legend, probably caused be sightings of logs, otters and the occasional large fish.
@hyksos74
4 жыл бұрын
It's also possible that the character presented in the NT is a fusion of more than one person. That could explain certain anomalies, such as the discrepency between his birth dates.
@TorianTammas
4 жыл бұрын
Calvin - The stories are so fictional and contradict what we know of the geography, the Jewish culture and practice and Roman law and customs. Not to begin with the walking dead through the streets of Jerusalem, the turning water into wine, the walking on water. for this story you need no person any longer that actually existed. Everything is overgrown by fictional elements.
@swolejeezy2603
4 жыл бұрын
Especially if you consider that history was not done back then as it is today. Nowadays, we search for the story and piece it together as best we can. Back then, you would put together a story with a moral and motifs. Writing history was seen as a way to teach us something more than a way to record things as they happened for future generations. With that in mind, you can easily sift through the homiletic elements of most ancient authors, including the Evangelists.
@TorianTammas
4 жыл бұрын
@@swolejeezy2603 The new Testament is a collection of fan fiction of fanboys for the cult leader. This has nothing to do with reality.
@swolejeezy2603
4 жыл бұрын
TorianTammas Sure. The Jesus of Mark, Matthew, Luke, John, Thomas, Peter, etc. - all of them are fictional characters. But like you said, they wrote them to glorify the cult leader. That cult leader was a historical personage whose real history and beliefs are mostly lost to time and destroyed in the myth-making.
@dalegregg8455
3 жыл бұрын
Your work is the ground work for the death of religion. You do a great job to show no reason to trust in any religion. Good Job maybe in 2-300 years religion will be gone and we will have no more reason for war and killing. History has proven all wars have been supported and or caused by religions of one belief or another. Removing the ridiculous belief in an invisible being that has no control or power somehow controls people. This kind of thinking is dangerous and will always result in war, Suffering and death. So the faster we move completely away from religion the better we all will be.
@benevolentgiovanni3113
4 жыл бұрын
Inspiring Delusion
@darrylelam256
4 жыл бұрын
LOL more like Inspiring Liar.
@smashexentertainment676
4 жыл бұрын
@@darrylelam256 I've seen a few debates and pretty sure IP is defending and promoting a delusion.
@darrylelam256
4 жыл бұрын
@@smashexentertainment676 Yes, and to promote that delusion he lies his butt off.
@smashexentertainment676
4 жыл бұрын
@@darrylelam256 I don't think IP is intentionally lying or even believes he's lying, but I haven't seen too much of him, so.. I know a lot of apologists like Todd or Hovind or Turek or Copeland ofc are lying intentionally. They 100% know they are telling lies and hope they will get away with it. And they do.
@darrylelam256
4 жыл бұрын
@@smashexentertainment676 I do think it's intentional. Just look how if ignored the line right after his two 'sources' about the exemption for capital punishment. If he did that much research, why ignore the very next line other then to lie to his viewers?
@Uldihaa
4 жыл бұрын
Thinking that critics are especially hard on the Bible just shows how little research they actually did. Historians give Herodotus a lot of credit for laying the foundation for writing about history in the West but will then promptly state that at least some of what he wrote likely, or certainly, didn't happen. Since there aren't any _The Histories_ apologists running around insisting that everything Herodotus wrote is factual, like there is for the Bible, there aren't any kerfuffles to draw the attention of outsiders. Having said that, I would not be at all surprised if there are in fact _The Histories_ apologists running around making historians sigh is resignation and reach for a painkiller to deal with any forthcoming headaches, human nature being what it is and all.
@匕卄モ匕卄丹れKち
4 жыл бұрын
Michael claims it silly jingle because he damn well knows everything he claims is for the Bible tells me so.
@michaelrud4351
4 жыл бұрын
The fact that they always take jabs at your jingle is one of my favorite things haha. Keep it up Paul
@redbad2652
4 жыл бұрын
@paulogia an embarrassing story is a very powerful tool used by con artist to gain trust. I think you were on track when you hinted that it’s sets up a bigger lie.
@radiofreeutah5328
4 жыл бұрын
I'm still getting my brain around the "embarrassment" argument as it relates to the women at the tomb. Has anyone looked at it this way: As I understand it, Mark originally ends with the women leaving the tomb and telling no one of their experience (the last verses were added later). So couldn't that be read as "this is why you haven't heard this empty tomb story, these unreliable women were the only ones who knew about it and they failed to tell anyone." The women at the tomb, therefore, are not an embarrassing detail, but a critical plot point to the story.
@joshridinger3407
9 ай бұрын
yeah it doesn't really apply to the women discovering the tomb because none of the gospels rely on the women's testimony for anything
@losttribe3001
4 жыл бұрын
24:54 Thank You! It’s my biggest frustration with people...including a brother who believes there were ancient earth civilizations that went to space based on KZitem videos. If it’s a favored belief, people tend to not have a high standard of evidence. I get that we all love our confirmations biases and echo chambers, it’s why I’m subscribed to Paulogia, but I personally try to avoid believing in something unless there’s good evidence and the Bible does not hold up unless you believe in it to began with.
@dickersoncharlie4961
11 ай бұрын
useing mathematics (it's one of the 4 branches of science) there is a good argument with evidence I can use to prove God exist. There are Physicist that have done math to show the likely hood of our universe happening "by chance" and they counted every variable for it. One stated that for life to come from nothing (which violates the biological law that life can only come from other life), nothing being molecules accidently arranged them selves to make the first DNA to mindless form into the first living cell is comparable to a tornado going into a scrap metal yard and building a passenger airplane by chance. The math showed there is a 10^40,000 in 1 Chance of that happening though natural process. To put that into perspective, if you could speak 32 Zeros in 6 seconds it would take you 4 hours to say that whole number. And it would take about 38 pieces of paper to write out the full number as well. I can't believe something that has that small of a number behind it. It would be illogical for me to believe that the universe "accidentally" was created from a huge unorganized explosion (Big bang theory, nothing created everything) made laws of physics that line up for life to exist in the first place. (Protons neutrons and electrons having the ability to even combine together to make Anything in the universe including life forms, and there's no logic or thought behind something so complect and complicated happended by a mere 10^40'000 in one chance. So by the creation of the universe it's self, and seeing how wonderful and good it was created, It would be more illogical to Believe nothing caused it. In a way, believing something like that is it own fairy tail. It's just more intellectual.
@claudehall7889
4 жыл бұрын
What would InspiringPhilosophy think about applying the same level of criticism to the Koran?
@Camerinus
4 жыл бұрын
You mean, the same hyper-credulity?
@claudehall7889
4 жыл бұрын
@@Camerinus I'm not even sure hyper credulity is a strong enough word to describe the irrationality of Inspiringphilosophy's argument.
@JGregory32
4 жыл бұрын
What I always find funny is that according to their own criteria the book of Mormon should be taken as absolute truth. Joseph Smith was a historical figure, we have secondary sources for his birth, life, and death. We have eyewitness testimony to the existence of the golden pages that the book of Mormon was translated from, these eyewitnesses are also well documented historical figures, and we have Joseph Smith's own writings as well. Yet for some reason, when you point this out, most creationists refuse to accept the evidence as valid.
@thesacredlobo
4 жыл бұрын
I imagine some of them would point out that the Book of Mormon contains errors only found in a specific edition of the King James Bible. Or that Joseph Smith was a well known conman that translated portions of the golden tablets with a stone he would use to lead people to buried treasure. Buried treasure that was cursed so the harder you tried to dig it up the further it would sink into the Earth. Or that the historical figures that claim to have seen the golden tablets only saw them in a spiritual vision and not in the flesh. Or point out that its well known that Joseph Smith wasn't literally translating things. After all, one of his books is based on an Egyptian scroll/manuscript that still exists. As far as I'm aware the document in question currently resides in a museum. And while the Mormon church agrees that this document is definitely the same one Joseph Smith used to create part of the Book of Mormon. They also argue that his translation was entirely spiritual in nature and wasn't based on the writing on the document itself. Note: I'm not trying to defend Christianity so much as point out the various reasons why people would call bullshit on Joseph Smith.
@JGregory32
4 жыл бұрын
@@thesacredlobo So you're saying that we need to examine external third party documentation and historical accounts to determine credibility? So we can not start from a basis that the book of Mormon is the absolute truth? Congratulations, you have walked right into my trap! *Rubs Moustache Evilly*
@pauligrossinoz
4 жыл бұрын
_Do these Christians treat the _*_Quran_*_ with the same level of scepticism as they do the Bible?_ I seriously doubt that! And that's the whole problem with both Christianity and Islam - they both, _without reasonable justification,_ treat their own 'holy' book with less scepticism than other's 'holy' books. If they would just be honest enough to apply the same level of scepticism to both the Quran and the Bible, they would naturally conclude that _both_ are wrong in their core magical claims. All I ask for is honesty. Why is that too much to expect?
@swolejeezy2603
4 жыл бұрын
Both can’t possibly be right, but both of them could conceivably be wrong
@chailouai347
4 жыл бұрын
That's nonsense. The Qur'an in multiple verses challanges us to prove that it's man-made .iam not sure how more skepticism can you get than the book itself challanging you to prove it wrong
@pauligrossinoz
4 жыл бұрын
@@chailouai347 - you realy have no idea what skepticism means. Liars are doing that all the time - challenging others to prove them wrong, but that's not skepticism, that's confidence. Plenty of liars have confidence. If someone was to say to you that they were told last week's lottery numbers *by a god in a dream,* before the numbers were even picked, and then they challenged you to prove them wrong, does their challenge make their claim any more likely to be true? _No, of course it doesn't!!!_ And I seriously doubt that you could _prove_ that they didn't get the numbers from a god in a dream too. That's very hard to prove. Likewise, the Quran's nonsense isn't any more likely to be true just because it challenges the reader to prove it wrong. I don't have to prove the Quran isn't just a rubbish story, _you_ have to prove that it isn't rubbish if you expect me to believe it's true. *That's how skepticism works in the real world.* Your claim is utterly _absurd!_
@chailouai347
4 жыл бұрын
@@pauligrossinoz stop the mental gemnastycs plz .skepticism by definition is "doubt as to the truth of something." When the Quran tells you to doubt its divinity that is skepticism. Simple as that
@pauligrossinoz
4 жыл бұрын
@@chailouai347 - *learn to read.* Many _liars_ invite scepticism as a rhetorical device only ... that's just bravado, _not_ a genuine invitation to question them. They are just hoping you won't. I saw through this simple trick before I was even 10 years old. My bullsh!t detector is highly tuned for that kind of stupid rhetoric. Anyone who thinks that merely inviting scepticism is the pinnacle of genuine scepticism is truly naive. People lie a lot. And some people have learned to lie really well. And ... the Quran is essentially bullsh!t. Just like the Bible. *Welcome to the **_real_** world.*
@vCoralSandsv
4 жыл бұрын
Your jingles are fun. I appreciate your researched, but fun approach
@txfreethinker
Жыл бұрын
If a historical document was making fantastical claims like miracles, a virgin birth, resurrections from the dead, etc., any skepticism concerning it would hardly be "unnecessary."
@RickMason-yj7pv
4 жыл бұрын
The wicked and the rich are often the same group.
@ramigilneas9274
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the gospels would claim that the disciples went to the tomb to anoint the body of Jesus with spices... Apologists would claim that this must be true because this was the job of women and slaves and would have been extremely embarrassing for men.😂
@marccolten9801
3 жыл бұрын
All this talk about what the Romans thought and might do reminds me of the short story by Anatole France "The Procurator of Judea". Two Roman officials are discussing their experiences. One talks about his fascination with a beautiful woman who ran off to follow a preacher called Jesus of Nazareth. The other man, Pontius Pilate, muses "Jesus, of Nazareth, I don't recall the name." Things that are important to us may not have been so important at the time.
@millenniumf1138
4 жыл бұрын
As a Star Trek fan, 8:16 onward makes me want to write a fan fiction about a Bajoran historian in the post-Dominion War era who is hired by the Cardassians to provide a history of the occupation of Bajor and includes a more Bajoran-friendly interpretation of the character of Benjamin Sisko's accepting of his role as Emissary. It would be an interesting allegory for Josephus and how he relayed tales of the worshippers of Jesus post-New Testament.
@wolffchadd4440
4 жыл бұрын
I have to comment on the "criteria of embarrassment." That is a trick that people that lie use to make there lies seem truthful. If you tell a false story that makes you look bad, the listener is more likely to take you at your word.
@dickersoncharlie4961
11 ай бұрын
useing mathematics (it's one of the 4 branches of science) there is a good argument with evidence I can use to prove God exist. There are Physicist that have done math to show the likely hood of our universe happening "by chance" and they counted every variable for it. One stated that for life to come from nothing (which violates the biological law that life can only come from other life), nothing being molecules accidently arranged them selves to make the first DNA to mindless form into the first living cell is comparable to a tornado going into a scrap metal yard and building a passenger airplane by chance. The math showed there is a 10^40,000 in 1 Chance of that happening though natural process. To put that into perspective, if you could speak 32 Zeros in 6 seconds it would take you 4 hours to say that whole number. And it would take about 38 pieces of paper to write out the full number as well. I can't believe something that has that small of a number behind it. It would be illogical for me to believe that the universe "accidentally" was created from a huge unorganized explosion (Big bang theory, nothing created everything) made laws of physics that line up for life to exist in the first place. (Protons neutrons and electrons having the ability to even combine together to make Anything in the universe including life forms, and there's no logic or thought behind something so complect and complicated happended by a mere 10^40'000 in one chance. So by the creation of the universe it's self, and seeing how wonderful and good it was created, It would be more illogical to Believe nothing caused it. In a way, believing something like that is it own fairy tail. It's just more intellectual.
@LogicAndReason2025
4 жыл бұрын
Next debate - Are leprechauns buried under toadstools?
@Tyranastrasza
4 жыл бұрын
ofc not. They are buried at the end of rainbows, near their gold pots.
@Bill_Garthright
4 жыл бұрын
_Are leprechauns buried under toadstools?_ Yes. And if you dig up a toadstool and don't find a leprechaun body, that _proves_ they're magical. After all, if they weren't magical, where did the body go? :)
@roqsteady5290
4 жыл бұрын
I understood that it is standard historical practice to down grade sources that make supernatural claims, in the same way that one wouldn't entirely trust a map that has "here be dragons" on far off places.
@beanbrewer
3 жыл бұрын
So this argument is basically "I don't critically examine any other information presented to me so why would I critically examine the Bible?"
@alanpennie8013
2 жыл бұрын
It's one way historians are useful. Lay people are quite likely to treat fictions as reality. There are some interesting grey areas such as whether the Egyptian priest Wenamun was historical or fictional.
@dickersoncharlie4961
11 ай бұрын
useing mathematics (it's one of the 4 branches of science) there is a good argument with evidence I can use to prove God exist. There are Physicist that have done math to show the likely hood of our universe happening "by chance" and they counted every variable for it. One stated that for life to come from nothing (which violates the biological law that life can only come from other life), nothing being molecules accidently arranged them selves to make the first DNA to mindless form into the first living cell is comparable to a tornado going into a scrap metal yard and building a passenger airplane by chance. The math showed there is a 10^40,000 in 1 Chance of that happening though natural process. To put that into perspective, if you could speak 32 Zeros in 6 seconds it would take you 4 hours to say that whole number. And it would take about 38 pieces of paper to write out the full number as well. I can't believe something that has that small of a number behind it. It would be illogical for me to believe that the universe "accidentally" was created from a huge unorganized explosion (Big bang theory, nothing created everything) made laws of physics that line up for life to exist in the first place. (Protons neutrons and electrons having the ability to even combine together to make Anything in the universe including life forms, and there's no logic or thought behind something so complect and complicated happended by a mere 10^40'000 in one chance. So by the creation of the universe it's self, and seeing how wonderful and good it was created, It would be more illogical to Believe nothing caused it. In a way, believing something like that is it own fairy tail. It's just more intellectual.
@dave3657
4 жыл бұрын
Growing up I always wondered if the son of GOD would need three days. That's enough time to create half the universe. As soon as they took Jesus down from the cross he should of snapped back to life, his wounds instantly heal, and he just walks it off. Now that's a story!
@smashexentertainment676
4 жыл бұрын
That'd be a more solid magical story than it really is.
@davidmoran4675
4 жыл бұрын
Technically, the gospels say he was dead for about a day and a half
@goldenalt3166
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's embarrassing that the son of God talks to be Father. It's embarrassing that he gets angry. It's embarrassing that his family didn't believe him. It's embarrassing that he was baptized. It's embarrassing that he went around the smallest rural towns with uneducated followers. Those are reasonable historical events that are embarrassing to the message. Obviously, you can't say anything is embarrassing to the author without knowing who the author is.
@Theprofessorator
2 жыл бұрын
"Don't blame me, I didn't write it." Needs to become the motto of modern Atheism. XD
@dickersoncharlie4961
11 ай бұрын
useing mathematics (it's one of the 4 branches of science) there is a good argument with evidence I can use to prove God exist. There are Physicist that have done math to show the likely hood of our universe happening "by chance" and they counted every variable for it. One stated that for life to come from nothing (which violates the biological law that life can only come from other life), nothing being molecules accidently arranged them selves to make the first DNA to mindless form into the first living cell is comparable to a tornado going into a scrap metal yard and building a passenger airplane by chance. The math showed there is a 10^40,000 in 1 Chance of that happening though natural process. To put that into perspective, if you could speak 32 Zeros in 6 seconds it would take you 4 hours to say that whole number. And it would take about 38 pieces of paper to write out the full number as well. I can't believe something that has that small of a number behind it. It would be illogical for me to believe that the universe "accidentally" was created from a huge unorganized explosion (Big bang theory, nothing created everything) made laws of physics that line up for life to exist in the first place. (Protons neutrons and electrons having the ability to even combine together to make Anything in the universe including life forms, and there's no logic or thought behind something so complect and complicated happended by a mere 10^40'000 in one chance. So by the creation of the universe it's self, and seeing how wonderful and good it was created, It would be more illogical to Believe nothing caused it. In a way, believing something like that is it own fairy tail. It's just more intellectual.
@huffpappy
4 жыл бұрын
22:36 "If somewhere within the bible I were to find a passage that said 2+2=5, I wouldn't question what I'm reading in the bible. I would believe it, accept it as true, and then do my best to work it out and understand it" I really have a hard time wrapping my head around what this pastor said, but his statement is a very good representation of people who truly believe that every word in the bible is true. I would love to ask this pastor if he would fly on an airplane if the bible did say 2+2=5, and the engineers who designed said airplane also believed that every word in the bible is true, so that 2+2=5 to them. I have never heard a convincing argument from anyone that the bible deserves such respect for being a source of truth. People like him also seem to forget that the bible says many illnesses are caused by demons or unclean spirits. I'm sure he goes to see a medical doctor when he has health concerns or a serious illness.
@swolejeezy2603
4 жыл бұрын
Sam Huff It’s particularly odd since many Christians believe that numbers actually exist in the universe (in a semi-Platonic sense). If they believed (along with most mathematicians) that math is invented and not discovered, they may be able to justify this claim. But if numbers are real descriptive parts of the real universe, then how could they possibly believe that 2+2=5 when everything else around them (which they believe numbers accurately can describe) tells them otherwise?
@WolfA4
3 жыл бұрын
"We assume somebody is speaking the truth and not telling us lies." I could not imagine surviving in NYC with an assumption like that. I would own both the Mets and Yankees, and 5 Brooklyn bridges after having met Jesus on the Subway 5 times.
@PrometheanRising
Жыл бұрын
That's hilarious. The quote is also a false alternative for a number of reasons: The opposite of truth is untruth, not lie. If the person who wrote it believed it, it maybe be true or untrue, but it would not be a lie. Another alternative to truth would be presenting an allegory without the intent that it be taken literally. For instance, the parables of Jesus establish that that is possible to find stories intended for moral instruction they than as claims to some actual event. This leaves open the question of where to apply this label. There are likely other possibilities, but I'm just stopping now.
@dave5655
4 жыл бұрын
I have an unexpected and random connection to this video. The banjo player in the Joey & Rory clip is a friend of mine.
@Paulogia
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know any banjo players. my life is incomplete.
@dave5655
4 жыл бұрын
Kyle’s a fantastic aux player. Banjo, fiddle, guitar, piano and various other obscure instruments. He also speaks and writes Hebrew and Japanese.
@elainejohnson6955
2 жыл бұрын
Any justification given for allowing Jesus to be properly buried would also apply to the 2 other men supposedly crucified with Jesus, yet the Bible does not say they were given the same treatment.
@jaydon225
4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are of really good quality, your responses are very well constructed, and your openness to change in light of new evidence is admirable. You're an example to sceptics and critics of religion. A model, I should say. Thanks for all you do.
@Paulogia
4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thank you, Jaydon.
@joseph-thewatcher
4 жыл бұрын
I like the silly jingles.
@timeshark8727
4 жыл бұрын
I can't stand watching theists "debate". Most of the time they seem more interested in scoring points against their opponent and preaching than having an honest back and forth. My limit regarding dishonesty is reached relatively quickly, and their love of attacking the person, shifting the topic, gish gallop, and false/empty assertions turns me off quickly.
@Bill_Garthright
4 жыл бұрын
I like to _talk_ to theists, but they rarely want to talk to me (and never for long). They always want to send me somewhere else where _someone_ else can preach at me. Ugh! Like you, I have a hard enough time listening to them as one side of a debate!
@dickersoncharlie4961
11 ай бұрын
@@Bill_GarthrightIP does not do that
@dickersoncharlie4961
11 ай бұрын
useing mathematics (it's one of the 4 branches of science) there is a good argument with evidence I can use to prove God exist. There are Physicist that have done math to show the likely hood of our universe happening "by chance" and they counted every variable for it. One stated that for life to come from nothing (which violates the biological law that life can only come from other life), nothing being molecules accidently arranged them selves to make the first DNA to mindless form into the first living cell is comparable to a tornado going into a scrap metal yard and building a passenger airplane by chance. The math showed there is a 10^40,000 in 1 Chance of that happening though natural process. To put that into perspective, if you could speak 32 Zeros in 6 seconds it would take you 4 hours to say that whole number. And it would take about 38 pieces of paper to write out the full number as well. I can't believe something that has that small of a number behind it. It would be illogical for me to believe that the universe "accidentally" was created from a huge unorganized explosion (Big bang theory, nothing created everything) made laws of physics that line up for life to exist in the first place. (Protons neutrons and electrons having the ability to even combine together to make Anything in the universe including life forms, and there's no logic or thought behind something so complect and complicated happended by a mere 10^40'000 in one chance. So by the creation of the universe it's self, and seeing how wonderful and good it was created, It would be more illogical to Believe nothing caused it. In a way, believing something like that is it own fairy tail. It's just more intellectual.
@Bill_Garthright
11 ай бұрын
@@dickersoncharlie4961 Great! If that's true, have him send me a note, then, so we can talk. Or he can just reply to this, if he wants.
@dickersoncharlie4961
11 ай бұрын
@@Bill_Garthright that's just childish, that's a fact a stands alone, I don't need to send someone to speak for me to prove a fact for me. You can take it or deny it
@hexum7
4 жыл бұрын
I'm thoroughly convinced that the Geek Pantheon is real, because, otherwise, according to my personal worldview, Homer would have been embarrassed to tell his audience that they are real
@peejay4606
4 жыл бұрын
I felt, as a critic , this "disagreement" was far too ..ugh, friendly.
@Locust13
4 жыл бұрын
Was Jesus divine? Until apologists meet the burden of proof for that claim, it's almost inconsequential whether or not they prove Jesus existed, was crucified, or was buried in the tomb. Although it's telling they can't even prove the minor details, much less the major. if God came down in human form to give birth to himself to sacrifice himself to himself to save everyone from himself it's the most important/significant thing ever, and yet he chose to do it in such a way that leaves insufficient evidence of it having happened
@Mariomario-gt4oy
4 жыл бұрын
Inspiring "philosophy" is such a dishonest hack and ignoramus lol he misrepresents virtually everything he talks about
@reshearchisgood6966
4 жыл бұрын
You have no evidence of that and also here's IP's response inspiringphilosophy.wordpress.com/2020/08/13/yes-jesus-was-buried-in-a-tomb-a-response-to-paulogia/
@Mariomario-gt4oy
4 жыл бұрын
@@reshearchisgood6966 yes I do actually given that he blatanty lies about philosophy, religion, science, logic etc. And his "response" is lousy and didnt address anything. Maybe instead of parroting his garbage kiddo, you actually present an argument that's valid. Try again. No scholar agrees with his garbage apologetics
@thomascarroll9556
4 жыл бұрын
Paul, can you make "For the Bible Tells Me So" available as a ring tone, please.
@brunozeigerts6379
4 жыл бұрын
'People of Jewusalem, Wome is your fwiend." But Pilate wasn't.
@ApocryphalDude
4 жыл бұрын
What about Biggus Dickus?
@pauljimerson8218
4 жыл бұрын
@@ApocryphalDude that's a joke name sir
@azuregriffin1116
4 жыл бұрын
@@pauljimerson8218 what's wong with Biggus Dickus? I have a fwend in Wome cawwed Biggus Dickus!
@gowdsake7103
4 жыл бұрын
Stwike him
@pauljimerson8218
4 жыл бұрын
@@azuregriffin1116 He has a wife you know
@roblovestar9159
3 жыл бұрын
Inspiring philosophy appears to be neither.
@samuelchen3922
4 жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic video. Thanks so much for your hard work and dedication to helping "the world" straighten out what is often quite a convoluted topic and process. Cheers Paulogia!
@DeconvertedMan
4 жыл бұрын
IP: No argument that is valid or sound, just like every other theist apologist out there. Hey look - the thing is in the thing that we are trying to prove! Derp derp. Circular SO circular. *facepalm*
@noel090909
4 жыл бұрын
I personally DEMAND more silly jingles.
@Paulogia
4 жыл бұрын
MORE SILLY JINGLES!
@kinglearisdead
4 жыл бұрын
Do you BELIEVE in silly jingles? Have you tried HARD enough?
@ladyaj7784
3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Paul, I dare say that you generously underplayed Michael's poor showing here. Jones' arguments for "unnecessary skepticism of the scriptures" borders on wtf dumb. Not only is the hyper-credulity a problem, but the *effect* of that hyper-credulity is exponentially greater than most other ancient documents. How many other old texts have the power to fundamentally change the behavior of modern-day readers, if they are given the same level of hyper-credulity? How many ancient documents have had the same effect on history since they were written? How many have directly led to so much death and suffering? Also, how many random old writings make such "ginormous" claims as miracles and the origin of everything? Claiming that biblical writing should even be held at the same level of skepticism as other ancient texts is NEGLIGENT. The ONLY responsible way to view biblical texts is with hyper-skepticism. Their continuing effect on the lives of, well... *everyone* (in some fashion)... hangs on the conclusions.
@Tyranastrasza
4 жыл бұрын
There's nothing inspiring nor philosophical in Inspiring Philosophy.
@Paulogia
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, this video was more historical. The level of inspiring is up to you.
@Tyranastrasza
4 жыл бұрын
@@Paulogia Wow, been replied to by Paul himself, thanks man.
@JohnKerr-bq3vo
3 жыл бұрын
2000 years later and STILL discussing the validity of 'gods word' in the bible.. hebrew, aramaic, greek, latin, english... hard to believe any errors, bias or downright lies could have distorted the holy book.. hahah.. the minutae is tiring... i prefer the macro... the video of mt olympus being scaled in 1913.. no Zeus...( god is in the heavenly clouds) then the invention of aircraft that could fly in the clouds... no god....( god is the universe ) then rockets and telescopes that can explore the universe.. no god..( god is outside of time and space.. that one kills me.. how could anyone know?) ..... next?... hahah
@evanskip1
4 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Love it!👌
@mrrolandlawrence
3 жыл бұрын
23:08 actually he is purposely missing the point there. the reason other ancient texts are not so critiqued as much is that they are widely accepted as just stories with no demonstrable gods / events / truth's. no one is arguing for saturn / mars / cronos etc.
@ananonymousoyster365
4 жыл бұрын
Does not the historian Jospehus record that Jews were often permitted burials? And do we not have archaeological evidence of the practice of Jews receiving honourable burials vis a vis Yehohannan? Is there a good reason why we should consider Joseph of Arimathea ahistorical? What about Paul who is writing 20 years earlier than Matthew/Mark (whoever you argue wrote first) and records Jesus was buried (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)? I don’t think the burial is myth claim has met its burden of proof.
@manolisworld
4 жыл бұрын
Love your work buddy! As for the word "Ετάφη", the tonal placement is on the letter "α" second syllable! Not on "Ε". Keep it up!
@sergeantstime5529
2 жыл бұрын
Insp Philosophy is better than most apologists but he still has so much bias towards his own position. Everyone has some bias, but…..but, with varying degrees of bias (not everyone’s bias is equal)and the simplest most probable explanation is the entire burial story and tomb story is fiction and created out of necessity, arguments between docetists etc. and their desperation to demonstrate he fulfilled messianic prophecy, that they created stories. They certainly believed his body was resurrected but almost certainly, none of them were actually there at the crucifixion due to fear and after a few days, no one knew where the body was buried at if it was buried at all and the women fit marks pattern in disrespecting the Jerusalem disciples and Jesus family and a more Pauline view. The story all comes from Mark and it’s quite possible, he or his predecessor invented it, prob out of necessity. It’s a predictable apologetic
@Pit.Gutzmann
2 жыл бұрын
Whatever they say, I love your for-the-bible-tells-me-so jingle!
@robertphelps5005
3 жыл бұрын
One other thing, do we have any ancient Jewish objections to the claim that Jesus was taken off the cross and buried in a tomb? It seems like this would be a major objection of theirs if it didn't happen and would be an easy thing to prove in order to stop the spread of this sect. Now I know they object to the resurrection but I have never read that they object to the fact that he was taken off the cross and buried in a tomb.
@nickpurtle9040
2 жыл бұрын
Historical documents are innocent until proven guilty? What? I wonder if Michael feels that way about the claims in the Book of Mormon or the Quran. I'm willing to bet he accepts the claims in the Bible at face value much more readily than he does the claims in these other religious texts.
@while.coyote
4 жыл бұрын
Trump supporters say wrong and embarrassing things about Trump all the time and openly do not give the slightest shit what it looks like to the audience. By the argument of embarrassment, Trump's trustworthiness is on par with Jesus.
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