I've been really looking forward to a video with you covering this. Much of the information out there is muddy and you typically have a no-nonsense way of explaining it. Thanks!
@MarcSchaefermeyer
8 жыл бұрын
Winston. I feel the same way as you did! I still need to break the ice and get my switches hooked up. Thanks so much for the video and the information.
@1AlteredEgo
8 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!!! Great video as always Winston!!! hank you for the time you put into making these so informative and slightly humorous.
@CalebPeters42
8 жыл бұрын
I couldn't imagine not having limit switches. good video!
@gregmartinez204
7 жыл бұрын
Ty, for your quick response what I'm wondering is does the carbide kit have a probing plate possibility and is it supported by the carbide motion
@WinstonMakes
7 жыл бұрын
They are working on it: carbide3d.com/blog/2016/carbide-motion-364-and-probing/ They just finished overhauling carbide motion's architecture so hopefully they can now focus on new products. Not sure what their time frame for release is...
@taow
8 жыл бұрын
Kit looks very nice! Do you also think that it will work with the X-carve?
@WinstonMakes
8 жыл бұрын
+The Art of Weapons X-Carve also runs on GRBL, so the same techniques would apply. You just need to find a different way to mount your switches.
@RichardCournoyer
8 жыл бұрын
Another great video Winston, and I put a link to in in my new video.
@cook6052
5 жыл бұрын
As usual an excellent review and showing some available options at the end extends full credibility. A question, could you discuss the various pros and cons of mechanical vs Hall effect limit switches in a future review? Thanks
@sonnyjeon6133
8 жыл бұрын
Nice video. And very thorough overview on Grbl's homing and limit switches! I'll start pointing users to this video when this comes up. (Also, do me a favor. Please pronounce Grbl as Grr-ble, rather than Gerbil. Thanks!)
@WinstonMakes
8 жыл бұрын
Your request will be given full consideration... What do you have against rodents? Lol.
@WinstonMakes
8 жыл бұрын
It's it really your wife's fault? :P github.com/grbl/grbl/wiki/Frequently-Asked-Questions
@sonnyjeon6133
8 жыл бұрын
+Winston Moy It's not a lie. But, honestly, my wife's teasing led to the realization of the close proximity to a non-PG slang connotation. :/
@DocBlasto
7 жыл бұрын
I shy away from the "Grrble" pronunciation because it sounds a lot like the (in)famous Nazi and war criminal. Gerbils are alright in my book.
@ptchan5
8 жыл бұрын
Great video. But in order to "form my own opinion" on the differences between Andrew Diehl's kit and the one provided by Carbide 3D I would have to buy both. Do you happen to know the differences? I'm in the market for the SO3 and didn't know which kit to buy if I want the hard limit switches. Your help is appreciated.
@WinstonMakes
8 жыл бұрын
+Peter Chan Carbide's mounts are metal, but only 3 switch, no probing included.
@gregmartinez204
6 жыл бұрын
Winston, Wondering the control board enclosure Andrew sent you, that you have on, how did you add fan , or did you, can you send picture, I thank you ahead of time, your help is greatly appreciated.
@WinstonMakes
6 жыл бұрын
No fan. Don't need one.
@lylet100
8 жыл бұрын
Winston, with all your influence with Edward and crew when are you going to convince them to upgrade so we can use a probe to get an accurate start depth.
@gregmartinez204
5 жыл бұрын
Mr Winston The switches along with the dust boot limits the cutting size a bit, when i rapid move to center it is slightly over to left of Mark, how do we go in and change settings to reduce board size accordingly, as usual sir thanks ahead of time
@WinstonMakes
5 жыл бұрын
The notion of where "center" is is hardcoded into Carbide Motion. As far as I know it can't be changed. The software wasn't designed for custom configurations. You can use a different program (like UGS) and make your own macros that rapid to an arbitrary point, but you're on your own if you're using Carbide Motion.
@Science3D
8 жыл бұрын
How do you probe the 3 axis? is there a tool to do this, a set of G-Code commands or does Carbide Motion incluse such functionality ?
@WinstonMakes
8 жыл бұрын
It's a gcode command. G38.2 if I recall, followed by axis direction you want to probe. Carbide3D will eventually release a probing kit and probably bake it into carbide motion for those who don't want to deal with manual entries.
@Science3D
8 жыл бұрын
thank you very much for your help. By the way: You inspire me a lot and I wonder if I can take your projects as an example to make my own videos ? I am a french person and I create videos in french. If you accept, I will give your videos in references in mine so people that see my videos will see where I took my inspiration.
@gregmartinez204
7 жыл бұрын
Mr. Winston, I received the limit switches from Andrew, set up was easy like you shown us, I have a question I am waiting on delivery for the suckit dust boot, can you please let me or us know what mods are needed for the limit switches from Andrew, ty ahead of time
@WinstonMakes
7 жыл бұрын
greg martinez I had to move the X limit switch forward, because the SuckIt contacts the frame in a different spot. I can send you a picture of how I did it if you shoot me an email or something.
@gregmartinez204
7 жыл бұрын
Mr. Winston, I notice that you are not using Carbide Motion, is there any particular reason, ty, Greg
@WinstonMakes
7 жыл бұрын
For applications of homing and setup, universal gcode sender's macros make it really easy to trigger probing routines with a single click. However for basic operations CM can be quite convenient, as it saves the zero-ed position from your last session. In a lot of my later videos I'm using CM again.
@gregmartinez204
7 жыл бұрын
Mr Winston, I have communicated with Andrew, he still produces his switches, as the orders come in...thought I needed to post this
@WinstonMakes
7 жыл бұрын
Great! Thanks for sharing. I got an email from someone who said they hadn't been able to reach him in weeks, and their order never shipped. Didn't want you to have the same experience.
@NickCharlton0
8 жыл бұрын
hmmm... not sure the print quality of those parts is any better than my Prusa i3 and I would say my friends diy eustathios spider v2 produces prints that look better. What material are the parts shown printed in? But anyway, awesome video as always! Would love to see you go more in depth into explaining using work coordinate systems. There is some good stuff in the wiki that could do with a solid video explanation from you!
@christopherlee3045
4 жыл бұрын
Why do you have no fait in 3D prints?
@gregmartinez204
7 жыл бұрын
TY, did you revise work space in carbide motion
@WinstonMakes
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, since I'm using my switches solely for soft limits. I removed my -X switch to get every last millimeter of travel possible, so I need the software to stop me before I crash the machine.
@eugenkrause5556
6 жыл бұрын
Do I only need 1 switch for Z? What is positive Z? Up or down? Haven't build mine yet.
@WinstonMakes
6 жыл бұрын
One switch. Z positive is up.
@TheRangeControl
8 жыл бұрын
How did you have your Shapeoko "Machine Leveled"?
@TheRangeControl
8 жыл бұрын
Nevermind... I found it within your library. :-D
@gregmartinez204
7 жыл бұрын
Mr. Winston, I have already pulled the trigger it appears Andrew is still in the Biz, at least his website took my money....Do you know if I may bug you some more, if it works with Carbide Motion of do I need to use another program? ty ahead of time
@WinstonMakes
7 жыл бұрын
greg martinez All switches basically work the same. Just a simple open-close circuit. Keep in mind, accepting payment is not the same as actively producing. Etsy and other stores will take your money even if the seller in on vacation. I would try and email Andrew to confirm, and if he doesn't respond in a week or two get a refund.
@SebastiaanSwinkels
8 жыл бұрын
There's a (pretty large) thread on CNCZone about magnetic limit switches. They're non-interference types that supposedly are stupidly accurate. It's based on a Hall switch and a neodymium magnet. The interesting part is that there doesn't need to be a physical contact which means there is no wear and tear, unlike those micro-switches you're using there. www.cnczone.com/forums/open-source-cnc-machine-designs/101878-cnc-forum.html
@gregmartinez204
7 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry Winston, I read your answer to quick, are you saying if Andrews are still available, then those are the best bet, according to you????ty
@WinstonMakes
7 жыл бұрын
I don't know if they are, I had someone reach out to me because Andrew hadn't responded to a sales inquiry in weeks. I haven't kept in touch with him, so I'm not sure whether or not they're available anymore.
@WinstonMakes
7 жыл бұрын
Also, Carbide 3D cut the prices of their kit because it now is standard on new machines. Because of that I have to give them the advantage unless you need probing. shop.carbide3d.com/products/shapeoko-3-limit-switch-kit?variant=11454637190
@ptchan5
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Winston. Great vids. I subscribed.
@gregmartinez204
7 жыл бұрын
Need to know what are the best limit switches for shapeoko 3
@WinstonMakes
7 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if Andrew has the kit in the video in production anymore. If not, your best bets are the set direct from Carbide3D or Tim Foreman. Carbide3D set is highest quality, metal components and dust-resistant switches. Tim's is good for hard limits (has switches on positive and negative extents, but personally I prefer soft limits), and slightly cheaper I think. *I haven't done this market research in couple months, YMMV.
@gregmartinez204
7 жыл бұрын
I'll let you know when and if it gets delivered
@VLAHECO
8 жыл бұрын
nice video.....I am in the process to buy my cnc mill. I have seen your videos about Shapeoko 3 and it looks so nice. I just saw another interesting cnc mill which is Stepcraft from germany. Do you know about that CNC? Thank you
@WinstonMakes
8 жыл бұрын
+VLAHECO Don't know much about it. Looking at the specs, it seems mechanically capable. But because it runs off Parallel, or USB adapter, you're stuck with certain software/Windows. The motor controller and electronics are basically a black box, so DIY mods (like limit switches) may be difficult or impossible. It will work, but in my opinion won't be nearly as simple, easy, or pleasant to use as something based off the Arduino architecture.
@fuzzy1dk
8 жыл бұрын
+Winston Moy a subd connector and an arduino is all you need to convert a controller meant for parallel to grbl
@gregmartinez204
5 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to change x max travel about 10 mm
@WinstonMakes
5 жыл бұрын
Decreasing it is easy, just modify the soft limits in GRBL. Increasing it is again something you can't do in Carbide Motion because it has its own version of soft limits, which is hardcoded. It's basically like training wheels for CNC users, so it's impossible to crash the machine when jogging. UGS and other senders won't hold your hand in that regard.
@gregmartinez204
7 жыл бұрын
Mr Winston, Can you do a video showing how to zero and probe with universal gcode sender's then how to switch over to Carbide Motion, for guys like me, ty
@girsimcigenc1675
8 жыл бұрын
fiyat nedir?
@MiggyManMike
8 жыл бұрын
You could improve the z homing by using a force sensitive resistor like the delta-printer boys do.
@WinstonMakes
8 жыл бұрын
FSRs can get you in the ballpark of 0.3 mm, which isn't a significant improvement. 3D printers went to FSRs to eliminate mechanically switched probes, not strictly for precision from what I'm reading. You're not going to get better than electrical continuity for determining contact, you just can't do that on a non conductive print surface.
@gregmartinez204
6 жыл бұрын
Ty
@industrial.inoxidable
4 жыл бұрын
Hello Friend. I am in a project to make a cnc table. I still have to wire the race limit switches that go to the card. I have a diagram of the card and the limits. You can help me ? I can send it to you by email. I would greatly appreciate it
@williamrake
4 жыл бұрын
None of you links for new limit switches are good
@WinstonMakes
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. This video is super old, homing switches are standard on all machines now and Andrew doesn't sell the kit anymore. Fixed the description to clarify.
@lylet100
8 жыл бұрын
Sorry Winston had a lapse in brain cells, what I meant was a "touch plate". Please convince the powers to be that it would be a great upgrade
@kmyerslp85
8 жыл бұрын
You really shouldnt kill power to all axis because having your z axis plummet like that might do some damage...
@WinstonMakes
8 жыл бұрын
Valid point. Usually the equilibrium point of the springs is about an inch off most work pieces, but you never know... Something to be aware of. That's why I prefer soft limits, and most kits you can buy only have 3 switches so you're 'stuck' with soft limits.
@kmyerslp85
8 жыл бұрын
+Winston Moy Some controllers you can give commands in case something was tripped like "max out z and disable spindle"
@Stephen8454
7 жыл бұрын
I am not trying to be a paint but I am getting really frustrated here. I just got my XXL kit today and I am a total noob. The directions are misleading and not very well defined. Naturally I went to youtube to try to find a video tutorial and you have a video that isnt explaining what the parts are your just saying connect this to this. It gives the impression that we all come to this channel because we already know what this is. We dont and thats whats really aggravating right now. For instance I have homing switches and not one time in the instructions does it say where to plug them into the board... Where do I plug these homing switches in???
@WinstonMakes
7 жыл бұрын
Savant PCs You're looking for a block of header pins that should be labeled X, Y, and Z_Limit. Direction you plug them in doesn't matter. Should be on the other side from the USB port.
@Stephen8454
7 жыл бұрын
Forgive me I build PCs and connecting things like these switches have to be fairly precise in a PC and its aggravating because I dont know what all these parts are called and no one really has a tutorial or instructions to explain these things out. i wouldnt have a problem had I had a diagram saying This piece is called this, that piece is called that. I finally found the homing switch config on their website but its showing the old PCB. I dont mean to sound aggravated its just I been at this all day and its a pet peeve of mine when directions are not clear. Its not your fault.
@WinstonMakes
7 жыл бұрын
No worries, I've been there. CNC is at an awkward intersection where the market is widening past hackers to the general public. And the language and software and general knowledge are playing catch up. Took 3D printers a while to get past that valley of frustration. That, and +Carbide3D needs to step up their instructions. Have you tried: www.shapeoko.com/wiki/index.php/Photographic_Shapeoko_3/XL/XXL_Assembly_Instructions
@RCGrid
8 жыл бұрын
Soft serve ice cream lol
@adaptsolucoes748
8 жыл бұрын
hello friend I want to build my shapeoko but I have not enough money you can help me, I need this diagram you can send to my email friend please'm from Brazil
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