Thank you for going back to retest after those game and driver updates. You are a gentleman and a scholar.
@colmustard5683
11 ай бұрын
The frame drop is across the board going in and out of some menus not just intel. Another reviewer noticed this as well while he was testing various cards admittedly before this newest update but, it was the exact same behavior.
@TheZoenGaming
11 ай бұрын
I can confirm that I also notice this even on a 3090 playing @1080p with uncapped frames. It doesn't impact my experience at all since I typically play at 4K with the frames capped @60 FPS and the frame dip is momentary, but it's there and it has been since day one.
@dylanherron3963
11 ай бұрын
Always appreciate a good confirmation thread from the community.
@CrocoDylianVT
11 ай бұрын
Yeah games do that, on TF2 when loading the maps your 1% low FPS goes down to 0 no matter the card, I had a 1660 Super and currently a 6600 and both do the same
@dragon2knight
11 ай бұрын
I was hoping to actually see this one come to light, it's good to have competition at all levels. The price will drop to $150 soon enough making this a no brainer if looking to save maximum bucks while getting some decent performance. I have used all of the Intel cards at this point and all of them have not totally disappointed (well, A380 wasn't all that great to be honest), Intel deserves tons of credit here for the insane pace of the excellent driver updates they've done...it makes them well worth the money at this point. Intel is worth buying now, don't let earlier reviews push you away. Nice job Paul!
@qzy-179SanTzxkW
11 ай бұрын
Man, i wish, but with the AI craze looming over....idk
@EbonySaints
11 ай бұрын
@@qzy-179SanTzxkWIronically, the A770 16GB is the poor man's Stable Diffusion card of choice compared to AMD's offerings.
@EdDale44135
11 ай бұрын
I’m concerned with having AAA games not working very well out of the box.
@jonny-b4954
10 ай бұрын
I'd be worried about old game driver support. I read/heard that Intel cards don't do well with DX9 and even older? You tried any of that? I have hundreds of GOG games and old games on Steam and that would be important. Was thinking about checking it out for my PC for my bedroom (mostly just streaming before bed)
@santeenl
11 ай бұрын
3050 is such eWaste
@Lylox_
11 ай бұрын
Fr
@Aorusgamer92
8 ай бұрын
I don’t know what nvidia is doing but seriously I prefer the Intel arc & I just bought one A750 well powerful & fast performance card compared to rtx 4060
@LiljamezZz
7 ай бұрын
They just need to lower the price or not make such a low end card if they can’t make one thats worth the money
@VxYxR.
6 ай бұрын
Fck ... no
@NEONBOXYT
6 ай бұрын
Not an e-waste. Overpriced. There're no bad GPUs. Only wrongly priced one's.
@ghomerhust
11 ай бұрын
pretty impressed with that performance, especially when locked at a price point. im glad intel's been able to mature their drivers a bit, because the hardware itself seems to be pretty stinkin solid.
@Johnny2Gats
11 ай бұрын
Not even in the market for a new card, but that 7600 looks like a great deal
@Epsilonsama
11 ай бұрын
I got a 7600 and for 1080p it's very good. You won't be doing Ray Tracing at 60fps but the performance in rastering is solid
@noahwestin8416
11 ай бұрын
I'd much rather save that money for a car repair down the road or some type of maintaince. Idk how you want to buy more tech when you got enough.
@Johnny2Gats
11 ай бұрын
@@noahwestin8416 never said I was spending money 😂 my point was if I was in the market for a card, the 7600 looks solid for the cost
@zodwraith5745
11 ай бұрын
Not really for it's price. While it's 25% faster than the Arc it's 40% more expensive. And keep in mind that's _after_ AMD just dropped prices by $30-$40 cause they were $280. A 60-70 dollar difference is nothing when it's between $680 and $750, but it's massive between $180 and $250. I wouldn't fault anyone for buying Arc today for an entry level system.
@Dracossaint
11 ай бұрын
@@zodwraith5745I am in the most part for agreement. Except not bugging about going intel, Not until their recent revision of how they do DX-11 shakes out a bit more.
@GothicDragonX
11 ай бұрын
This brings back memories of building a decent $500 to $600 console killer PC that used to be competitive with the PS 3 and PS4/Xbox 360 and Xbox One. The days when high-end GPUs were close in line to 500 to 600 USD. While I am not a fan of Intel GPU, I am happy there is a competitor in the low-end market that brings the other two companies down to earth a bit.
@BladeCrew
11 ай бұрын
That rtx 3050 he has here I have. I love that card, yes I know about the rx 6600 and all that but remember I build my pc during covid/crypto. I got my rtx 3050 for 250 dollars new during the crypto mining and that time the rx 6600 was 400 dollars. So I am very happy with my card and I can run everything I ever wanted. I don't run the latest and popular games(I run games like cs 2, dota 2, Horizon Zero Dawn, Subnautica, Days Gone, Battlebit Remastered, etc) I even run Horizon Zero Dawn at 1440p with ultra texture,models and anti-aliasing and rest of the settings on high with no motionblur getting 60-70fps(I am running pcie gen 3 with my Ryzen 5 1600 AF and Asrock B450M Steel Legend). I even undervolted my zotac rtx 3050 with FPS caps in rivia statistic tuner and my zotac card barely exceeds 50 degrees celcius even in a 25 degrees celcius room and the gpu only eats max 80w of power with a minimum of 25w of power while gaming(My boost clocks are the same so I dont lose performance). I also undervolted my cpu but kept the boost clocks, my cpu runs at 3.5GHz with a voltage of 1.1187v and my cpu also barely exceeds 50 degrees celsius in 25 degree celcius room, that is when both cpu and gpu is 100% usage.
@alafrosty
11 ай бұрын
Nice testing regime. SUGGESTION: Where the card name appears on the game video, add a $/performance metric for each card to communicate the value proposition during game play.
@plumbthumbs9584
11 ай бұрын
shrewd.
@Techcensorshipbot
11 ай бұрын
This was a good video to show off the RX7600. Bought one to replace a dead 1080TI. Seems to have been the correct choice.
@gertjanvandermeij4265
11 ай бұрын
Radeon just rules dude !
@lukasschmidt9555
11 ай бұрын
Very good card, also beats 6600 from AMD at Raytracing, the Challanger seems to do pretty well on the cooling too.
@DaboInk84
11 ай бұрын
12:15 The potential low power 3050 is rumored to have PCIE Slot power only as a less than 75w TDP, so for that reason only it would be welcome for SFF and other such builds, IF and only if it’s cheap. Lots of us have 1050 Ti’s we’d like to retire 😂.
@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature
11 ай бұрын
Assuming the '30 series' transient spikes don't persist.
@plasmahvh
11 ай бұрын
isnt there a new very low profile 4060? im sure u could power limit it to below 75w and not go to 3050 levels of performance
@jameslake7775
11 ай бұрын
@@plasmahvh 75W is the magic number because it can be fully supplied by the PCIe slot. If a card has a 6/8-pin it won’t initialize without it. If you use a SATA to PCIe power adapter (which many people do not trust), you can’t control how much it pulls from which power source. It’s not a major issue in a custom build, but there are used office PCs that are cheap and small and can actually have pretty good specs except that they don’t have a GPU and the power supply isn’t over spec’ed with extra connectors and capacity.
@plasmahvh
11 ай бұрын
@@jameslake7775 ye i understand and 4060 can for sure be power limited to 70 75 and be much faster than the 3050
@QuentinStephens
11 ай бұрын
A pity you didn't test it against the A750.
@premprabhakar805
11 ай бұрын
ikr thats so unfair.. its selling for around 215 too
@gertjanvandermeij4265
11 ай бұрын
WHY ? every Intel GPU is CRAP !
@QuentinStephens
11 ай бұрын
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 I disagree; they're just priced too high.
@Oat_meal_YT
11 ай бұрын
Wow, that is very impressive Intel.
@divinedragon88
11 ай бұрын
I believe, at this point of time, Intel's GPU lineup will get better over time. Since this was Intel's first lineup of selling GPUs, it has gotten interesting with it's competitors, the AMD and NVIDIA (loving the RGB memes). Seeing these graphic cards seem to focus on 1080p resolution, it's nice to see consumers won't hurt their wallets when you compare with AMD & Intel. With Intel improving their graphics cards from their predecessors, this will be a whole new level, but fun to see.
@lucasrem
11 ай бұрын
divinedragon88 All cards are 1080p cards now, all HD ready levels. What card can do FPS 300 4k 12 bit colors, better then these new playstations do ! all setting high ! RTX 4090 on 13900k, only Overwatch and Fortnite, or lower settings... ?? You only need FPS > 300 on 1080p HD Ready levels !
@juliandomsch2794
11 ай бұрын
Great video!! Late lunch but clearly a good burget card! i would like to see it compare against 6600 becouse of similar price and probably performance? i think the 7600 is a tire up in performance and price
@mincraftgimer
11 ай бұрын
Agreed. Although it is amazing to see something 60 dollars cheaper get only close to 10-20 frames behind.
@IntelArcTesting
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for testing a budget card in a budget system. Everyone is either using a 13900k or 7800x3d which isn’t a combo that makes sense. Also arc likes a fast CPU because of overhead and some games especially DX11 will perform significantly worse then when paired with the best of the best CPU’s that can brute force past some of the driver issues.
@lucasrem
11 ай бұрын
Arc Yeah, that's my only worry for these budget gamers. Fortnite only ? What about CS 2 now, non DX 12 titles are all dead ?
@thalo215
11 ай бұрын
Cool stuff. Id like to see some updated benchmarks on the a770 16 gb. My 3070 keeps having issues and budgetwise the a770 is high on my list if I'm forced to buy a replacement card.
@harrybryan9633
11 ай бұрын
The a770 isn't quite there yet - that being said, the Ampere drivers are about as good as they are going to get. The Arc cards have about another years worth of driver updates coming.
@gertjanvandermeij4265
11 ай бұрын
NEVER ever buy an crap Intel GPU ! Even if they were for FREE !!!
@hongluzhang7771
11 ай бұрын
unless your budget is absolutely locked, i highly recommend a770 16gb version and choose a slightly lower end cpu, a770 has been amazing and putting all the vram in use for me, the driver updates in the recent months also supports my confidence to go blue in terms of gpu stability and development in at least next 2 years.
@darcrequiem
11 ай бұрын
I did a complete upgrade of my main rig recently. With all my spare parts I had lying around, all I needed was a case and GPU to build another rig. So I bought an A770 16GB and Fractal case just to play around with. Just based on my brief experience, they've made huge strides from a driver standpoint. I'm impressed with the progress they made and I hope it continues. We need competition in this space.
@gertjanvandermeij4265
11 ай бұрын
NEVER ever recommend an INTEL GPU !!!
@hongluzhang7771
11 ай бұрын
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 and you are?
@ryanwebb2672
11 ай бұрын
@@hongluzhang7771 Don't feed the troll! Also, I have had an A770 16GB since launch, and the driver improvement has been impressive. I think Arc is ready for mainstream recommendation.
@robslaney3729
11 ай бұрын
Did notice that the CPU appeared to run much harder with the ARC for most of the runs, and much lower for the 3050
@good4nothing392
11 ай бұрын
@Paul it would be great if you benchmark some esports titles like CS2, Valorant, Dota etc.
@jonlaw16
11 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this style of review without much commentary on how good or bad each result is. Sometimes I'm in the mood to hear Steve (take your pick of which one) trash a poor product, but sometimes it's nice to see "here are some results for 3 similarly priced products" without all the editorializing
@ultraguardiansev465
3 ай бұрын
I use the arc a580 for the computer I just built. Works pretty nice. Especially considering the last graphics card I used is from an old precision 5510. (The graphics card in the precision is quadro m1000m)
@JoeStuffzAlt
11 ай бұрын
Intel is 2-4 years ahead of where I thought they'd be. I'm impressed. Making a GPU is quite difficult, and they are doing an incredible job.
@m.n.s.s2825
11 ай бұрын
Nah, Stop being a fanboy
@leviathanpriim3951
11 ай бұрын
that transition between benchmarks, very cool.
@William.N
11 ай бұрын
Loving the transition animation!
@zodwraith5745
11 ай бұрын
When you take into account price that a580 is doing pretty well. It's good to see Intel sticking to their guns and continuing to deliver value products and ever improving drivers. If they ever release an enthusiast level card I'd be pretty interested in it. Lord knows with all the SLI setups I've ran I'm more than used to a little jank if it's interesting enough to play with. Especially when their drivers have gotten good enough I still wouldn't necessarily have them as a goto recommendation, but I'd probably no longer steer people into _not_ using them if they were interested.
@backlogbuddies
11 ай бұрын
If you do video editing they're the best cards for that now.
@Raeters
11 ай бұрын
Have looked around the reviewers of the A580 release and none is putting it towards CS2. I would like to see CS2 included in the reviews of GPU's.
@radeksparowski7174
11 ай бұрын
I was waiting for entry level dedicated video card based on a310, single slot 30W and 4 monitor support with all recent codecs for a decent price around 100 eur...it never came out, the intal arc pro 40/50 are not available in retail, very scarcely used from dells optiplexes but for crazy prices 250+ or the new one is the matrox luma line that is also available on paper only for 600+ euro...well fcuk them, my next computer will be built around 7000 g series or maybe 8000, it should be more than enough for me and for additional monitors I will just use the current gt730 and/or ati 4850
@po1odo1o
11 ай бұрын
Appreciate seeing realistic pairing of 5600x with these cards. It's a far more common chip than 7800x3d etc, and while I see the point of maxing GPUs out with the latest and greatest it'd be nice to know how new cards perform with modester hardware. Also, i have a 5600x, so, relevant.
@Saabjock
11 ай бұрын
I've been running that exact combination (5600X/A770-16) since late December 2022 on an MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon with 32GB DDR4-3600. It has proven to be super smooth. Heck!... I've even been using it in VR since driver 4090.
@triparadox.c
10 ай бұрын
This GPU would be good for light computer user and those who want to have a home media server. I'm sure this GPU can do AV1 encoding, so it can serve as Plex or Jellyfin transcoder at low cost.
@jasonluvisi
11 ай бұрын
Seems like a dip to $150 would make the A580 almost irresistible for entry level.
@orce
11 ай бұрын
If it was in the $150-$160 range it would've made a killing. There are no low budget new cards available for a while now.
@typerightseesight
11 ай бұрын
The one with the magnetic levitating fan. Thank's Corsair for sponsoring this message.
@OldBuford
11 ай бұрын
i had completely forgotten about the other Intel cards in the lineup...hell id pretty much forgotten Intel got into the GPU market at all
@Vegatablez
11 ай бұрын
2:00 imo if the main upgrade people should consider might be going am5 for an extra ~100$. A bigger drive or PSU might be nice but I think being able to just drop in a new cpu when would be more beneficial in the long run. The bigger psu or drive would be nice now but as long as your board has more nvme slots I'd prefer that to kind of knowing your max performance already exists vs have 1 or 2 new gens of real gains available in a few years. Like as is 5800x3d isnt quite enough for a 4090 vs a 8800x3d will probably be enough for a 5090.
@BladeCrew
9 ай бұрын
Intel arch a580 cost 218 dollar in South Africa and the RTX 3050 in August 2022 when I got my card was 310 dollars. RX 6600 now cost 273 dollars new and rtx 3060 12GB cost 320 dollars. Our prices are always higher because of import fees and tax.
@Aggrosk8
11 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the side by side benchmarking approach.
@Lenticular67
11 ай бұрын
Great review, Paul!
@kuyache2
11 ай бұрын
Gosh this is 2 in a row you've won the best review of gpu release. Paul is the only reviewer I've watched who retested with new drivers! Kudos, awaiting for your grand slam victory! Nvidia can shove the upcoming RTX3050 6gb up their arse if they are not priced below 139$ 💩 My hunch is the rtx4050 will be a 229usd very sad awful videocard that belongs in the bargain bin or better yet in the trash bin...
@AndersHass
11 ай бұрын
Nice to see you did a review, now that it seems like most didnt review it.
@MDxGano
11 ай бұрын
For some context here on pricing. The cheapest rx 7600 in my area is $360 CAD, the cheapest 3050 is $300. The arc 580 adjusts to about $250 CAD. Yeah the 3050 is a bit slower; Your $50 difference as it stands right now gets you a few things to consider though. 1. Upscaler support, DLSS is proven to be a bit better than Intel's variant, though it is close enough for most users. 2. Literally almost half the power draw (86w is a pretty substantial difference). That isnt nothing, and in a budget scenario in a world with increasing power costs, it might actually matter to someone. Afterthought on this one; The cards are only supposed to be around 55w different so the models used in this test may make power usage a null thing to look at. Impressive power draw from the 7600 as well in this comparison 3. Temperature: Simple enough, lower power = less heat, see above. 4. Driver maturity. Intel is still a bit behind when you look at any game older than 2 years. Current games seem to do quite well as seen in this comparison. 5. Nvidia Broadcast. I can't stress enough how much this program alone would justify $50 as a standalone if it wasnt compatible with anything 2xxx and up AND FREE. 6. Nvidia Shadowplay.: Works surprisingly well as a standalone for recording high quality footage and can be set to function in various ways. Very simple for a new user to record with but slightly limited in options and adjustments. We are at the point where everything on the market can do rasterization more than well enough to match/exceed console framerates (settings tweaks, lowering resolutions is possible, ect). (looking at the 3050, 7600 and now this a580 as the current "entry point" into modern pc gaming). The only reason I can come up with that raster is the main comparison point is stagnation in the media presenting these comparisons; It's a lot of work to tip toe around anything that isnt 100% objectifiable like framerate. Yes raster is still vastly important and certainly the easiest ways to compare with minimal variables; but there is simply more to the story than rasterization these days. That being said, the 3050 will need to see a price drop of at least $20-30 CAD to not be a laughingstock by way of comparisons like these. I do NOT think the A580 is the better card if prices were equal to be clear. At $50 cheaper, the A580 is worth the risk of a few old games not playing nice if you mostly play current titles and plan to do nothing but game/content consume.
@BenDover-ie3sy
11 ай бұрын
Cheapest RTX 3050 cost 280-290 CAD.
@MDxGano
11 ай бұрын
@@BenDover-ie3sy Did find a $290 Zotac, doesnt look to be anything wrong with that. Still a little slow for the price, but the other vendors haven't made an adjustment as of yet. It's likely the rest will be updated soon.
@kravenfoxbodies2479
11 ай бұрын
I like to think of the A580 as Intel's Radeon RX 580 8Gb card moving forward with better encoding with AV1, I have the Sparkle A 770 16Gb that I been testing out with my B550/5600x setup and like the card, only issue is Starfield and Forspoken, still can't get those to fire up. hoping it becomes the RTX 3070 someday with the vram that it should of had.
@darcrequiem
11 ай бұрын
How recently have you tried Starfield? I was testing my Asrock A770 16GB yesterday and Starfield ran fine. Only game I tested that gave me issues was Star Citizen but that game isn't a bastion of stability.
@kravenfoxbodies2479
11 ай бұрын
@@darcrequiem I just got the new driver in today 4887 and have not tried it yet, now I did try Fry Cry 5 and it looked amazing on my 43" Roku 4K 60hz TV, just play 1440p in Ultra with HD texture pack on 5600x/B550 setup.
@cerescop
11 ай бұрын
The A580 is striking blow for blow with the RX6600 according to Hardware Unboxed. It is still a hair behind but it is a favorable showing. That video came out today.
@GorgeousFortress
11 ай бұрын
But keep in mind, it has way more issues with any sort of dx11 or older game and uses more power. There is no reason to ever buy this over a 6600.
@cerescop
11 ай бұрын
Thats why the 6600 is in my spare computer. The rx6750xt is in my main one.@@GorgeousFortress
@andersjjensen
11 ай бұрын
@@GorgeousFortress Exactly. Intel "made an AMD" of this launch. The day before the A580 reviews go live someone in the sales department decides the A750 needs go on sale for $190 while someone in the driver team forgets to package the Starfield and Ratchet & Clank fixes for the A580 despite them dropping last week for the A320, A750 and A770. Intel should not have announced this as a 6600 competitor. They should have set the MSRP to $160 (knowing the A750 would be $190) and have it go up against the RX 6500 XT. That would have made for some pretty rave reviews. 8GB vs 4GB and almost twice the performance at price parity is how you convince people to take a leap of faith on the drivers.
@jeffpriz
11 ай бұрын
For budget build, yeah A580 would be my choice.. 60+ FPS at 1440p? sure why pay more for the 7600? If I needed more performance, I probably would step to the A750, still cheaper than the 7600
@andersjjensen
11 ай бұрын
Paul left out the RX 6600. That's the same performance, same amount of VRAM, lower power draw and only $30 more which, to me, seems like a small price to pay for a lot more stable drivers and a control panel that has actually useful features.
@pagla07
11 ай бұрын
Glad to see Paul back in action
@themalcore_
11 ай бұрын
As a note: you can get an 8GB A770 for the price of the RX 7600, so the comparison here, while interesting, isn't quite price-comparative for people who are shopping.
@FINNIUSORION
11 ай бұрын
I'm ordering one. I'm just now updating to ddr4 lol. I've been using the same i7 4790 for years. And a gtx 1060 6g. So this gpu will be perfect for the upgrade I think.
@Idtelos
11 ай бұрын
Looks like a better choice than the rtx 3050. Though with used rtx 3060 going for $200 or even less, tough call. I picked up a 3060 ti for $200 at the time of this commen; which to me, was a great deal.
@KevinEF
11 ай бұрын
you can get a used 6700xt for $200, which is a little better than the 3060 ti. So a used 3060 isn't really that good. Your 3060 ti for $200 was still a great deal though, it's a little slower than the 6700 xt, but you have some extra professional features.
@Idtelos
11 ай бұрын
Agreed. I paid a little extra for an Asus model tuf oc (3 fan) model.
@reptileescape3619
11 ай бұрын
I am amazed how good the A580 is…. I have used the A380 and I was disappointed, so wasn’t expecting much for the A580
@hwi7114
11 ай бұрын
I know the RX 6600 is last gen, but I think it's actually a more direct competitor to the A580. The RX 6600 is widely available and is closer in price and performance.
@andersjjensen
11 ай бұрын
And has more mature drivers and a lot more models to chose from.
@shephusted2714
11 ай бұрын
if they keep improving the drivers this could be the new 5090 ostensibly
@varunverma95
11 ай бұрын
No one uploaded a video in my subscription feed. I'm glad it was Paul. Nice and crisp video. Well done. Waiting for A580 to launch in my country now. Edit - Also Paul, can you add more games to your GPU benchmark? eSports titles like CS2 or R6 ? And more intensive ones like F1 23 or RDR2?
@zedorda1337
11 ай бұрын
I have found after making several budget systems. There is some money to be saved by using lower bandwidth RAM with near zero loss to performance on Ryzen CPUs. But never drop from dual channel.
@boerbenlp8659
11 ай бұрын
Seeing the current development it looks like Intel is trying to catch up and cover the low end segment, AMD more or less already said that they focus on mid range cards and NVIDIA looks like to target the high price segment. Maybe the card you choose in the future is determined by the money you want to spend and not by the cost/frame ratio or feature set.
@dw4457
8 ай бұрын
I paid the extra 20 bucks for the better video card was a no brainier, wont have my new computer built until end of 2024 tho :( gonna buy everything little by little
@johannboth
11 ай бұрын
It's an amazing time for 1080p gaming!
@gertjanvandermeij4265
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, in 2017 maybe !
@agaXM
11 ай бұрын
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 i still game at 720p and 1080p is still mainstream especially in my country
@kingofstrike1234
11 ай бұрын
you should also test it with 66x0 / xt since there's 3050
@coolbusterreal2736
11 ай бұрын
I think you should of compared the a580 with the RX 6600 not the 7600 as the 7600 is made to compete with 40 series cards not 30 series cards from Nvidia.
@paxdriver
11 ай бұрын
Wonder why arc fully utilizes vram but amd and Nvidia don't. Seems like good design to me, but I could be wrong. Any thoughts?
@The_Man_In_Red
11 ай бұрын
Big difference between allocating and actually using that much VRAM. Not sure what the actual usage is since hardly anyone checks.
@andersjjensen
11 ай бұрын
Every game uses the same amount of VRAM for assets regardless of manufacturer. There can be a tiny difference in shader programs, as those are architecture specific. But there can be a big difference on how the driver sets up memory allocation on the GPU. Some drivers only allocate when they need it, others allocates in big chunks ahead of time. To figure out what exactly is currently in the VRAM buffer you need to do mad tricks with inspection tools.
@paxdriver
11 ай бұрын
@@andersjjensen I'm fairly certain that's inaccurate. You can set graphics settings to use larger textures and that selection is done automatically based on available VRAM in a lot of applications. (edit: not the whole thing you said is inaccurate, referring specifically to "every game uses the same amount of vram for assets regardless of mfg" because the drivers can handle loads however they choose to based on the optimizations in the architecture)
@itsdeonlol
11 ай бұрын
Intel has the best deals on budget GPUs right now!
@Lemurion287
11 ай бұрын
Why leave out the RX6600? It's still available for a closer price to the A580.
@lynxg4641
11 ай бұрын
Hey Paul, not been keeping up on this because of all the insanity with pricing etc, but now that things are settling down, finally looking to put a "decent" GPU in my Intel 9600k system. Is it worth it to put a PCI Gen4.0 card in there or is there another alternative? Does the Intel RAM/GPU thing work with that old a CPU?
@lucasrem
11 ай бұрын
lynxg4641 never try to do fancy RTX 4090 ti, you waist that on the old intel, CPU that is bottlenecking it. any RTX 4060 ti card is perfect for it, the new Arc too if you need that. Keep the old system please, it only needs a boost, these cards can do that ! Forget PCIe 4.x, i have PCIe 5.x, only needed for NVMe drives now, my new RTX 40 card runs on 4.x Keep the PC please.
@ryanwebb2672
11 ай бұрын
Check if your motherboard supports resizableBAR. Mine did with a bios update. It makes more difference than PCIe 3.0-4.0. I agree that a mid range card would be an appropriate upgrade.
@TheGumpyGump
11 ай бұрын
I'm wondering how it compares to the $200 RX 6600.
@jimbodee4043
11 ай бұрын
I like budget builds they are my price range.
@Vertigo11
11 ай бұрын
Thanks Paul
@Azhureus
11 ай бұрын
For €180 Thats very cheap considering todays pricing. Absolut beast in my book for 1080p
@thedigitallens
11 ай бұрын
I think a better comparison would be with 3060 and 6650xt as its available in some regions at the a580 pricing. Otherwise RX 7600 is slight priced more.
@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature
11 ай бұрын
When the holiday sales come who knows. But regardless of what you test you get a frame of reference and can then compare it to others relative to that one. His intent was to compare it to other 'current' offerings. But if he was seeking 'most comparable' he probably would have gone your route.
@HiddenRamza
11 ай бұрын
Ty bro good video
@alphaomega154
11 ай бұрын
regarding that frame dip when you open the menu in starfield for intel arc, i think that has something to do with their driver's menu acting as an "overlay". i think thats what i heard about intel arc's control panel. that overlay takes up that portion that some games usually assign for in game menu threads. and which something i always said has something with that MSVC++ for windows platform. those in game menus i believe usually uses network(.NET for windows, SDL for linux)loopbacks to work. and intel's control panel overlays i believe uses the SAME THING. so they clogs, if you know what i mean. i agree with some youtuber said, intel should drop that control panel "overlay" style if they are still in that. nobody really using it. but with that being said, i think, the intel arc line ups is showing every sign that the next iteration will be true contenders to those old players. as a "beginner" in gaming GPU tech, they doing it like a pro already..
@lucasrem
11 ай бұрын
alphoameha starfield, DX 12 should not be a problem here, this is NOT frameworks ! Autodesk ?, not sure what tools they used here, but it should be abble to run on UNIX, on mobile devices too, steamdecks etc. The biggest challenge for arc is non DX 12 titles !
@Unreelness
11 ай бұрын
The RTX 3050 is an overcharged paperweight ✅
@gertjanvandermeij4265
11 ай бұрын
Just like EVERY Intel GPU !
@billbollinger3748
11 ай бұрын
Looks more like a 3060 for $180 than a 3050. It's good to have at least one manufacturer trying to get a budget card put out. Might just give Intel a chance for my office pc build.
@lucasrem
11 ай бұрын
bill Do budget builds need Arc, i do love this GPU, that is not the issue. fortnite only build ? What about old non DX 12 titles ? old is dead now ?
@XBnPC
11 ай бұрын
At this "every day gamer" price, AMD and Intel just make sense. I hope Intel get their drivers right bc competition at any price, is a good thing 👍 💯
@ambadyts6948
10 ай бұрын
Is this graphics card available in India ?
@poeticsilence047
11 ай бұрын
I am sure those numbers are going by the lowest fps to the highest what they use to be. Percentages are fun as in I don't understand them but I do know is you can easily fudge numbers that are technically real but are BS at the same time.
@andersjjensen
11 ай бұрын
If you don't understand percentages, statistics and ratios it's easy to get suspicious and just go with your gut feeling instead. Which is also dangerous because that's just going with your systematic biases. The obvious solution is to take an online course (there are SO many available for free) in basic math.
@jondoes6895
11 ай бұрын
No WATTS used for other cards ? hiding something ? hmm
@BReal-10EC
11 ай бұрын
I feel like intel is just burning money for market share/brand identity right now. They can't sell their cards for a price high enough to actually cover costs and make a profit, so they sell them for prices they think will actually sell even if below cost.
@JRose-zn7iw
11 ай бұрын
The naming system either sucks...or it's intentional...not sure which.
@ellypsis603
11 ай бұрын
Should be 150, wait for the drop
@marcasswellbmd6922
11 ай бұрын
I can't believe Nvidia hasn't done away with that 3050, with an RTX 4050 that has some punch.. I can remember when the 750TI had punch to it.. Now the 50 series cards are terrible for the pricing..
@lucasrem
11 ай бұрын
marcasswellbmd6922 GTX 760 was the lowest GPU we could find here, if you needed less good, older gen cards ! You find them in US Big Stores on the High Way ?
@andersjjensen
11 ай бұрын
Since the A750 dropped to $190 the A580 at $180 makes precisely zero sense. The A580 for $160, however, would make it an insta-buy for the budget shoppers. At that price it goes up against the RX 6500 XT and brutally murders it in broad daylight while the 3050 gets ridiculed to death while the crowd cheers. I cannot, for the life of me, understand how Intel could botch this launch so hard purely on internal coordination. That's usually the realm of AMD. The A580 could have gotten red hot glowing reviews at $160 (which it will drop to within a week now that the A750 is $190) despite it's power draw and sometimes shaky drivers.
@therealmichaelphelps
11 ай бұрын
Im one of the few fools who bought the RTX 3050 when it first came out And this video makes me sad. Having said that, some programs I use love the RTX cores and Ai stuff and prefers nvidia and it makes a HUGE difference when playing with those tools. I would be curious to see how the arc A580 does in video editing programs like davinci resolve and using speed warp for example
@ЕгорВ-т2б
11 ай бұрын
So why are you writing this then, if the 3050 has its advantages, such as more work capabilities, stable drivers, better upscaler? Shouldn't it cost anything? In 2K resolution with DLSS, there is no difference in performance even with the native one, and this gives a lot of frames per second, so you can even use RT in 2K. I'm going through Control this way right now.
@87crimson
11 ай бұрын
The thing is... folks want Intel to do better so that NVIDIA drops prices to buy NVIDIA cards. And we always end up with the same de facto monopoly. Nvidia is great but they don't deserve the market share they currently have on the GPU side of things. An RX 580 8 GB should have been way more popular than a 1060 but here we are. For some reason folks love to buy trash cards from Nvidia like the 1650/3050/1030
@greeshmaisave5410
11 ай бұрын
Why didnt test rx 6600😮😮😮😮😮😮 this card is meant to target rx 6600 and also the same price range
@FARBerserker
11 ай бұрын
so the 7600 is worth its price and the 3050 is not wort it. and the 580 is worth its price. and holding up remarkably well.
@jadams2289
11 ай бұрын
I've always gotten the impression that if you're not a 80 series or higher user, nvidia doesn't care about you.
@justinorino8411
11 ай бұрын
Two major upsides going with Intel currently. One being you are supporting that cheaper GPU market, and the other is Intel is so new their drivers constantly do increase FPS by a significant amount. Where Intel might be losing to AMD by a significant margin right now might be a slimmer one in a few months. Overall I think there is a benefit to waiting to see Intels next line of GPU’s on a more mature software system, if you are in the line for a new GPU. At this point while AMD may be outperforming Nvidia cards at certain price ranges, if you’re trying to help the cheap card market I wouldn’t personally go with them.
@mlsasd6494
11 ай бұрын
never buy a product for its future potential, you never know when the "big leap fixes" run out. Might be done new might be done n the future but you just dont know
@justinorino8411
11 ай бұрын
@@mlsasd6494 just to be clear, these are upsides to add onto to the active performance that Intel already provides. While you are correct, you don’t know when the big leap fixes will end, there already is a great price to performance reason to go with Intel and the rest are optimistic upsides that seem to be the direction they are heading. It’s a safe assumption that as of now this is the plan and that’s why they are major upsides to going with Intel. I wouldn’t make these same claims with a GPU that already has poor price to performance.
@madson-web
11 ай бұрын
Yeah in the mid to low end, since the RX 480 days AMD has been doing a great job. Now we have intel doing a decent one (not perfect but still). Yeah, go buy Nvidias, send a message to them that no matter what they do they still sells more
@nipa5961
11 ай бұрын
tldr: 3050 is a bad joke. Intel's still too expensive to be competitive. Get a RX6600 or RX7600.
@Mr11ESSE111
11 ай бұрын
buying rtx 3050 now are terribly stupid move
@gertjanvandermeij4265
11 ай бұрын
Like every Intel buy !
@Mr11ESSE111
11 ай бұрын
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 a750 are 190$ and in some games performance are on rtx 3070 level
@Lionel2023
8 ай бұрын
Rx 7600 hot spot its always 90° ... Meanwhile the other two are around the 60° to 70°
@TheRealDlo
11 ай бұрын
I can't believe anyone cares about this level of gpu... we almost to 2024.
@KtotheL
11 ай бұрын
7600 new budget master
@incremental_failure
10 ай бұрын
Nvidia makes 50% net profit, that's insane. Remember, this isn't operating profit, all costs, interest and taxes are already subtracted. So they could sell this card for $120 and still make money...
@dindunk
11 ай бұрын
3050 should cost only 1/3 of its msrp considering bunch of other cards dropped recently which has way more value vs cost. there are no other reason for 3050 to exist other than to milk people during gpu shortage coz they dont even bother to make 2050 but suddenly 3050. i think (hope) 3050 will be the last of 50 series (other than 4060 probably a 4050 in guise and 4060ti 8gb is the actual 4060)
@arghpee
11 ай бұрын
7600 performs about 60% faster so id say it's worth 25% more. A580 is a great budget option in a market that has been neglected
@gertjanvandermeij4265
11 ай бұрын
Any Intel GPU is just CRAP !!!
@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature
11 ай бұрын
But how does it compare to the A770 or 7700XT Or 4060TI perhaps one of those is more cost effective?
@sirius4k
11 ай бұрын
Yes, higher FPS is all well and good, but remember this: The more you buy (Nvidia), the more you save.
@pdgprodarkgamer9276
11 ай бұрын
In ue price is over 300€😢
@J-B-Good
11 ай бұрын
Shouldn't you have used RX 6500 ???
@alexanderstults8484
4 ай бұрын
Man, the 3050 is the biggest waste of sand. Either discontinue it or drop it to $120.
@neilg97
11 ай бұрын
Good result for intel at the price point IMO. Shows how much NVidia suck
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