Thanks for the patience on this one! We finished it ~2 weeks ago, but we didn't complete the editing since we were working so much on that 12VHPWR story with the 4090. But now it can finally go out! Watch our revisit of the AMD Ryzen 2000 series! kzitem.info/news/bejne/t5mkzKd7o5WcpI4 Find our Intel i5-13600K CPU review here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1aWa1Yyfaoteg34 And our Intel i9-13900K review here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/2o2tnKVsn4SfoX4
@FaceyDuck
Жыл бұрын
Hey Steve, any plans to do a 4080 teardown? Or would there be no point because it’s similar to the 4090?
@kwinzman
Жыл бұрын
There has been a ~20% AMD CPU price reduction in between.
@kwinzman
Жыл бұрын
The 7950X is only USD 555!
@chriss9809
Жыл бұрын
Why isn't there a CPU benchmark for cpu heavy strategy games like Crusader Kings III or Stellaris? Like how long it takes a game to finish playing on max speed. The games get really sluggish at the end.
@lukeearthcrawler896
Жыл бұрын
Why don't you include 4X games like Civ6 in the game tests which can actually stress test the CPU, instead of running 1080p tests with a 3090Ti? You're testing at 1080p because at higher resolutions you're GPU bound, I get that. But these 1080p tests are rather pointless, as not many people play 600 fps 1080p games. Phil's Hardware included Civ6 tests and there you can clearly see which CPU is better in a real world relevant scenario.
@Zosu22
Жыл бұрын
Looks like AMD lowered their prices for Ryzen 7000 across the board. I’m so glad we have such a competitive CPU market now.
@luxemier
Жыл бұрын
youre still coping huh? 13900k beats amd in almost every game. amd failed this gen were back to the pre ryzen days i guess
@yukisnoww
Жыл бұрын
@@luxemier lol, you live in a world where only gamers exist?
@yosemitesam9576
Жыл бұрын
@@luxemier ?? Its still competitive lmao
@RafitoOoO
Жыл бұрын
@@luxemier first, it trades blows with the 7700X, and the 7900X and 7950X are workstation CPUs who suffer a bit of latency due to the dual CCD. Second, wait for the 3D SKUs lol. And that's only gaming, in productivity the 7950X wins or matches the 13900K in all workloads.
@santyagobustamante7369
Жыл бұрын
Sadly it is only a temporary black friday thing, it is already confirmed, so we are most likely back to MSRP after this or next week
@ashdown6032
Жыл бұрын
Your videos are the reason I was able to make an informed decision about buying what is best for the buck in my budget range. You guys with your top-notch reporting managed to save me hundreds of euros in the long run. Thank you for the work that you do.
@GamersNexus
Жыл бұрын
So awesome to hear that! Thank you for letting us know, and glad to hear you're happy with the outcome!
@TheTyphoon365
Жыл бұрын
They really are the absolute best. True professionals without loosing the common touch
@exalexal5003
Жыл бұрын
Still need to google up prices of your local country, in mine R7 7700X = 391 Euro, 5800X3D = 323 Euro and i7-13700k = 499.99 Euro
@warrax111
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you've sent them at least 2 euro tip, when they've saved you several hundreds.
@mariolp2999
Жыл бұрын
@@GamersNexus yes.. Gamers Nexus and harware Unboxed are the best...
@drgapinski
Жыл бұрын
This makes me feel good about my purchase of a 13700k for $400 flat (thanks MicroCenter). I upgraded from an 8700k so the improvements are just crazy.
@GamersNexus
Жыл бұрын
Wow! 8700K was good for years, though!
@KiiR745
Жыл бұрын
I'm into doing the same upgrade, did you purchase z690 or z790?
@venzpro23
Жыл бұрын
I got mine in bb for 379
@lyora1076
Жыл бұрын
I'm still running an 8700k as well. It still runs great, but I recently upgraded to a 3080 and I'm wondering if I should upgrade my CPU now.
@M4Inchan
Жыл бұрын
Same but from the 8086K but to the 5800X3D. The options are great and you cant go wrong with either vendor atm
@wangel81
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review! I haven't upgraded my pc in over 10years. Was still running an i7-4790k and a 980TI. Was still able to play games. But I splurged and got this cpu and a 3080TI. So glad I did. Night and day difference and this review made me happy. Thank you!
@xiaowei1
Жыл бұрын
i also moved from the 4790k to the 13700... the 4790 was a great chip, but there is simply no comparison.
@Questchaun
Жыл бұрын
I went from 4790k to Ryzen 5 3600 to the 13700k. It's an absolute beast
@Maturin
Жыл бұрын
I had a 4790K too and moved to this cpu and looking to get amds 7900xtx
@ehsona1827
Жыл бұрын
What a massive jump, like going from ps1 to ps3. Nicely done!!
@timbertv5525
Жыл бұрын
I'd possibly still be running 4790k and GTX970 to this day if it wasn't for PSU dying, CPU temp problems and GPU software problems. Performance-wise they still hold up "acceptably" in 99% of games for 1080p.
@Numsz
Жыл бұрын
Crazy, I was literally just checking your channel to see if you guys covered this chip yet. Thank you GN!
@GamersNexus
Жыл бұрын
MAYBE WE WERE CHECKING YOUR SEARCH HISTORY
@Hellstorm616
Жыл бұрын
@@GamersNexus that entry on my search history 3rd down, it was for research purposes, I swear!
@noahfadlallah380
Жыл бұрын
upgrading from a 4790k to this cpu was a massive boost in performance!
@capo5005
Жыл бұрын
I did the same, was considering waiting another year, but in my case I'm ok with saving $ with sticking with ddr4.
@Youskarumbo
Жыл бұрын
Bruh that’s like going from a fiat panda to a Bugatti Veyron. Congrats
@GamersNexus
Жыл бұрын
One of the best things to remember with that kind of upgrade too -- almost anything will be a huge increase, so it's hard to go wrong!
@capo5005
Жыл бұрын
@@GamersNexus truth. When they dropped the 5600g to $110 a few days after, I had a few second thoughts... But I've learned my pattern of behavior actually prefers fewer upgrades over longer periods of time, so I don't have buyers remorse anymore. If we get 2x the performance at the same price within the next two years though... Then maybe. But I'm just glad we got out of the ivy bridge to kaby lake slump.
@webbedshadow2601
Жыл бұрын
Yooo nice, I'm upgrading from a 4770T to a 9900K I got for a great deal
@astrodogdog
Жыл бұрын
Upgrading from 4790K to 13700K. First time in all those years I've felt it is worth it. Hoping this one will last just as long!
@jkiu2692
Жыл бұрын
Crazy that I’m in the exact same boat almost 8 years on my 4790k what motherboard are you going with
@SB379
Жыл бұрын
@@jkiu2692 I'm also still on 4790k, that thing won't die and still works ok. It's by far the most long lasting cpu I ever had and I'm still not convinced that I need a new one yet.
@iieffectz7714
Жыл бұрын
Who are you and why are you copying my cpu choices
@iieffectz7714
Жыл бұрын
Crazy that I’ve used a 4790k for over 7 years and just decided to upgrade to a 13700KF and so did you
@tresnonugroho6397
Жыл бұрын
Well, it's 9 generations of difference so of course it's worth it. 🤔
@SCSBairsoft
Жыл бұрын
Upgraded to the 13700k from the 4790k. The improvements are just unreal. I loved the 4790k though...
@Fahif808
Жыл бұрын
holy paytience
@novideohereatall
Жыл бұрын
@@Fahif808 Patience or being poor, that is the question...
@romaindro
Жыл бұрын
I did the same, from the end of DDR3 to the start of DDR5 !
@Fahif808
Жыл бұрын
@@novideohereatall you can be poor and still be impatient. So either way 🤷♂
@stonerock666
Жыл бұрын
same! from i5 3570k to this
@peiiider
Жыл бұрын
Happy that I went for the 13600K, saw an 80% improvement in iRacing fps over my overclocked 9600K. Probably even more now that I discovered the MSI "CPU lite load mode" that was set way too high from the factory. CPU temp dropped almost 20 degrees by changing a single parameter in the BIOS.
@mattdayman9632
Жыл бұрын
What does that mode do and how did you fix it?
@peiiider
Жыл бұрын
@@mattdayman9632 it changes how much voltage is added «for safety» under load/turbo conditions. Too much voltage gives unnecessary temp increase..
@rainretribute9852
Жыл бұрын
@@peiiider how do u do this?
@M4rk58
Жыл бұрын
Upgraded from 8700K to 13700KF. Have it power limited at 190W with PL1/2, and it achieves basically the same performance in games, and just shy in benchmarks from stock. Best of all, can avoid the annoying thermal spikes when load starts!
@ganomaly
6 ай бұрын
so are you saying its not worth upgrading?
@M4rk58
6 ай бұрын
@@ganomaly Ah I see how my comment is confusing. I meant that the 13700KF performs the same in my games when I limit the PL1/2 to 190W compared to stock. Not compared to the 8700K. In terms of whether it's worth upgrading it depends what's your current CPU and what you're trying to achieve
@ganomaly
6 ай бұрын
I still have the 8700k at 5ghz. Wondering whether I should upgrade or wait a tad bit more. Either and or Intel not sure haha thank you for the reply. It'll be for gaming btw, and I've just picked up a 3090 couple months ago. Any advice would bee appreciated 👍🏼
@CertifiedClapaholic
Жыл бұрын
As of late August, 2023 - Micro Center has this bad boy on sale in a bundle. The CPU came out to 260 bucks, got 32GBs of DDR5 6000 36 for like 65 bucks, and a z790p wifi (didn't want the wifi capabilities but whatever) for 170 bucks. Couldn't pass it up. My 3070 is very happy and so is the credit card company lmao.
@Proxylamborg
Жыл бұрын
I had a i5 8500 since 2018. Few days ago I bought i7 13700K. I am super happy with it. currently using a Noctua NHD15 with it. It gets a little toasty under high load but the performance increase is great. As always great review
@dkis8730
Жыл бұрын
I'm planning on either getting a 13900k or 13700k, but now way I'm running either without a 360mm water cooler lmao
@Nessaurio
Жыл бұрын
Man, I was considering going for the 13600k instead of the 13700k. But then I thought "I'll watch the GN review". And after watching this, I've decided that for 350US for the KF (it was on sale) against 300 for the 13600k? It was a no-brainer upgrade from the current 4470k I've been running all these years. Thanks so much! I always love your reviews and your processes, and I love the fact that I was finally able to act on an upgrade, after years of watching.
@zihechen3111
Жыл бұрын
Do not go kf unless u know exactly what u need, intel igpu act like a booster help speeding up PR streaming and all other sht. If u do any sht relate to adobe than k is a no brainer
@Nessaurio
Жыл бұрын
@@zihechen3111 Thanks! I mostly do gaming and very light streaming (Older games most of the time lol). So I went kf either way, I am rocking a 1080ti still and I'll hold off for one more gen to upgrade that. But yeah, I do no workload-related activities on this PC.
@rainretribute9852
Жыл бұрын
@@zihechen3111 so kf is more for adobe and not for gaming? I don't understand the difference between k and kf
@zihechen3111
Жыл бұрын
@@rainretribute9852 k is more for adobe. If does not have igpu, k does, and igpu is a must have if u want any adobe work
@XXNemesisXXXX
Жыл бұрын
I would appreciate , although it is less common in gaming , if emulation benchmarks were at some point included. Mainly since those are more CPU intensive than GPU and have been making strides in optimisation and compatibility as of late.
@saricubra2867
Жыл бұрын
Just take an AVX512 i7-12700K batch with DDR5 and Ignore Zen 4 and Raptor Lake. IPC is the same (for 13th gen) and a 6% downgrade on Zen 4.
@HellGatefr2
Жыл бұрын
From 9900k to 13700k was noticeable, and got to keep my DDR4 ! Also 5.5 GHz on p-cores without any effort, making it basically a 13900k for gaming
@Mekojonessharktooth
Жыл бұрын
was looking at this upgrade...was the additional heat output noticeable as well? My rooms already getting too hot with 30 series and overclocked 9900k
@Dassick89
Жыл бұрын
@@Mekojonessharktooth you're putting out 250 watts of energy, a lot of that will be heat. So yes it will expell more BTU than a 95 watt 9900k. I have a 9900k and just upgraded to 13700k. I was able to undervolt -.090 vcore to get the temps to stabilize around 80c. My 9900k was UV too and would hit around 72c under max load. So there will be a 12% increase in temps. That doesn't directly correlate to how much warmer your room would get. There's so many variables. TLDR. Yes your room will get warmer around 10% fast or warmer than before, depending on room size, ventilation and cooling.
@lagarttemido
Жыл бұрын
@@Mekojonessharktooth Just go and buy AMD. Much more efficient.
@plasticelephant1969
Жыл бұрын
DDR5 prices are only a bit lower than DDR4 right now, if anyone's getting a new Mobo, it could be the time to go for ddr5 (But yes absolutely, if you already have expensive high quality DDR4 kit, keeping it is the better option at the moment)
@Freestyle80
Жыл бұрын
@@lagarttemido just stfu about amd
@Pinkfloyd1173
Жыл бұрын
I got it for $350 at Micro Center, when it was on sale, last week.
@GamersNexus
Жыл бұрын
Great price!
@TJ.85
Жыл бұрын
I got mine on launch day via best buy for the same price... I had them price match micro center then used a 10% off coupon + I had a free $200 gift card from recent phone purchase and some rewards points all in all I ended up spending about $150 after tax for mine!
@rare6499
Жыл бұрын
The generational increases from Alder Lake are really impressive. Especially compared to how Intel CPU’s used to be for years. Love competition!
@lightward9487
Жыл бұрын
Si cierto CPU potencia de intel es único que trabaja más mucho para jugar máximo FPS por 1080p más mejor mucho que menos 1440p y 4k? Creo que GPU es una de parte mayoría en cuello de botella si existen
@modernwarfare2204
Жыл бұрын
I’m finally retiring my 4770k for the 13700k. Can’t wait to put my new rig together.
@andrebark
Жыл бұрын
Same here LOL ... rocking with 4770k and RTX 3090 ... Maybe I go with 13700k too =)
@jankees4037
Жыл бұрын
I wanna go from 5800X to 13700K. Intel for the win.
@saricubra2867
Жыл бұрын
I went for the 12700K vs my i7-4700MQ (similar to i7-3770). Raptor Lake IPC is the same as Alder Lake.
@oceanbytez847
Жыл бұрын
Built a system for a pal who brought a 12100F (unfortunately) and honestly, even at the extreme low end it absolutely blew me away how quick it was considering i'm still running an overclocked FX-8350.
@saricubra2867
Жыл бұрын
Because Bulldozer IPC was so bad that 1st gen Intel CORE is faster per clock and anything above feels high end compared to that piece of trash. Being more accurate, is not the IPC itself, it's the terrible floating point speed. Alder Lake and Raptor Lake's p-core floating point is ridiculously good. Emulation beasts and destroy Digital Audio Workstations (they are all floating point based).
@ARH0101
Жыл бұрын
@@saricubra2867 He’s running piledriver, not bulldozer. That’s the 8150
@saricubra2867
Жыл бұрын
@@ARH0101 Same sh*t.
@ARH0101
Жыл бұрын
@@saricubra2867 No, they’re not. They’re both FX chips of the same micro architecture That’s it.
@Tc4ify
Жыл бұрын
@@saricubra2867 For certain tasks it was even worse than core 2 duos, lol. I distinctly remember an overclocked E8600 beating overclocked 8150 in Skyrim, lmao.
@lilricemuncher09
Жыл бұрын
i was literally in the market for a 13th gen i7 or i9 and this was the video i needed! I imagine many others are making this transition as well during the holidays. great content as always! will continue to give you my watch time and likes!!!
@Exteliongamer
Жыл бұрын
So which one are u getting ??
@Krytern
Жыл бұрын
When i built my current computer I put in a 6700k and everyone was telling me i wasted my money. I explain i wanted to keep using it for about 6 years but didn't matter i apparently wasted my money. It took only 2 or 3 years for the 6600k that everyone told me i should of bought to start struggling in games. Not making that mistake this upgrade skipping the 13600k again.
@rainretribute9852
Жыл бұрын
@@Kryternsorry i don't understand 100%. r u getting the 13600k instead of the 13700k?
@Krytern
Жыл бұрын
@@rainretribute9852 I got the 13700k
@shellstormify
Жыл бұрын
Would love to see more about coolers, temps and how to tame this beast of CPU. Definitely a great value for 3D work, but power draw worries a bit.
@webgpu
Жыл бұрын
great value for 3d work ?? it's a "C"pu not a "G"... 🤣
@AzzaADHD
Жыл бұрын
I'm in the middle of a complete rebuild from my 8700k (sold my tower before a large move) and I decided on the 13700k shortly after launch. This definitely helps me feel good about my decision.
@asahp_
Жыл бұрын
Same here except 9700k
@bgriff087
Жыл бұрын
Same as well from a 7700k
@foster4241
Жыл бұрын
Im so torn now because of amd price drop. Going from a 9700k aswell. I have a $100 gift card for Amazon too so I can get the 7700x for 250 or 7900x for $374 . My third option is microcenter 13700k for $380
@AzzaADHD
Жыл бұрын
@@foster4241 Just remember AMD's new stuff is ONLY DDR5. If that matters to you price point wise.
@OGZxK1LL3R
Жыл бұрын
Going from an i7 3700k to the 13700k is crazy. I loved that 3700k, but this new one is fantastic. Got it for only $329 new from Microcenter too!
@mateofernandez5975
Жыл бұрын
i have a i7 3700k too. Good old gpu
@016duda
Жыл бұрын
dude I swear I am like you I wen from i7 3700k to the 13700k also from GTX 980 HOF to RTX 4070TI ROG OC OMG
@OGZxK1LL3R
Жыл бұрын
@@016duda Haha nice, I also had a GTX 980 and went to a 3090 Ti.
@016duda
Жыл бұрын
@@OGZxK1LL3R we hit our lowest point dude 😂❤️
@budgetbiker7
Жыл бұрын
I definitely already watched the video and am writing this comment as a reflection of what I have witnessed in said video
@Stallzyx
Жыл бұрын
😆
@zivzulander
Жыл бұрын
I, too, have thoroughly consumed said video and observed Steve loudly proclaim something at some point in this video. Dry sarcasm may have been involved.
@budgetbiker7
Жыл бұрын
Actually an informative and interesting video now that I have actually scrolled through it. Serious consideration for a 13600k for me tho, it doesn't seem like the 13700 is worth it for the $. I do video editing and light gaming, and my FX 8350/hd 7870 is feeling a bit tired. Seems like intel is on top this time around.
@tonederf6419
Жыл бұрын
Seriously beginning to feel like picking up the 5800X3D was a great decision. I only use my pc to game and its still very solid compared to most of the recent CPU releases. Couldn't be happier
@Vantrakter
Жыл бұрын
I have yet to see a recommendation against the 5800X3D if all you do is gaming. Well, it depends on what resolution as well, it matters less at 4K but might still matter quite a bit, especially at the lows, if the particular game you like can avail of the large cache. Of course it depends on what you paid for it as well.
@tonederf6419
Жыл бұрын
@@Vantrakter 1440p paired with a 3080ti. Got it for something like $375? It was on sale like 6 months back. Sold my old 3700x to a friend in need of a CPU for $100, so ended up even cheaper in the end. For most of the games I play I didn't notice much of a difference, but in Escape From Tarkov and a few other titles the difference was fairly noticeable.
@jordanplays-transitandgame1690
Жыл бұрын
13600k/13700k is better? why did you buy last gen?
@tonederf6419
Жыл бұрын
@@jordanplays-transitandgame1690 because i started building it almost a year ago...
@jordanplays-transitandgame1690
Жыл бұрын
@@tonederf6419 oh then lol you got a good build
@MinscS2
Жыл бұрын
I have a i9-13900k and I still can't stop making googly eyes at the i7-13700k...
@TJ.85
Жыл бұрын
The 13700k just makes way more sense for people who want "high end" but don't actually need production work tasks... And it's like 50% more money to get 13900k over 13700k if you shop around.
@smithman013
Жыл бұрын
Microcenter has the 13700k on sale for $379 as part of their early black friday deal! Picking mine up tomorrow 🤪
@Tom5TomEntertainment
Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see it compared to the 8080
@jizamkizam9611
Жыл бұрын
I decided to go with this from a i7 7700k. It def served me well but was def hitting a wall in anything cpu heavy at this point.
@TJ.85
Жыл бұрын
I had the same chip 2017-2020 but the "hitting a wall" thing is just not something I'm comfortable with plus I hate to see my parts lose all their value and basically end up as giveaways or just sitting in a drawer. I sold my 7700k for $300 and got a 10900k on its launch then sold that chip back in May this year for $390 and finally got a 13700k for $350. I've managed to keep upgrading and yet I bet I spent only about what you spent in the same time or maybe even less....
@lagarttemido
Жыл бұрын
@@TJ.85 If you enjoy upgrading that frequently you really should have moved to AM5.
@slakk5093
Жыл бұрын
Im going from a 6700K and it still serves me well, apart from VR where it really struggles
@laggmonstret
Жыл бұрын
@@lagarttemido Hehe true, and aim for the 7800X3D next year ;)
@ImperatorBaldo
Жыл бұрын
@@laggmonstret so many amd fan boys, kinda cringe
@ThtsDirty
Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this! Been eyeing this to upgrade from my 8700K
@Vuktarion
Жыл бұрын
this is amongs the clearest and simple to understand comparatives visual I've seen on this platform, thank you for your work.
@DarkSoulx7
Жыл бұрын
So basically the 7-13700k will work well for music production. Good to know.
@christopher3969
Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a section about undervolting in these cpu reviews. Can you undervolt it? What chipset do you need? How much performance do you loose at which power target? With these modern CPUs and their enormous power consumption and cooling requirements that gets more and more interesting.
@Hurricane2k8
Жыл бұрын
I guess the reason undervolting doesn't show up in reviews is that it's almost entirely dependent on the silicon lottery. One CPU might be great for undervolting, and another sample of the same SKU loses stability as soon as you touch the voltage.
@RickyZastrow
Жыл бұрын
I upgraded from a 8600k to a 12700k via the microcenter deal. It is blowing my mind how powerful these new chips are.
@Fizzer99
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I went from 9700k to 12700kf. I haven't used an app or game that use the whole cpu yet.
@asahp_
Жыл бұрын
9700k to 13700k now… haven’t gotten to try it yet but 👀
@dkis8730
Жыл бұрын
My heart says I want the 13900k, but realistically I know the value is just horrible compared to the 13700k since I usually just game. Decisions decisions
@Chadimusprime87
Жыл бұрын
Same here, love my 12700kf
@jasoar1563
Жыл бұрын
@@Chadimusprime87 ive upgraded from 12700kf to 13900k for future proofing reason. plus i have an expensive mobo and i dont want to replace that for a while.
@midoribookstore
Жыл бұрын
This'll be stepping up to the plate for my retiring 6700k.
@tbonelp81
Жыл бұрын
I was able to get a 13700k this weekend at $370 (thanks MicroCenter), looks like it should be pretty good value at that price! It's one hell of an upgrade from a 2700X. Thanks GN!
@TJ.85
Жыл бұрын
I paid $350 on launch day thanks to price match at bb + 10% off coupon then had $200 free gift card from recent phone purchase so paid like $150 for mine!
@orkhepaj
Жыл бұрын
good for u
@tbonelp81
Жыл бұрын
@@TJ.85 Nicely done!
@guilladogui8259
Жыл бұрын
how is the power draw compare to the 1200k ? do u know
@josephkool8411
Жыл бұрын
@@guilladogui8259 Jinormous
@Blackhavok2
Жыл бұрын
Hello! For the production section of the CPU evaluations, have you considered adding a music production software, whether that be ableton live, fruityloops, etc.? Y'all are the gold standard for reviews in my book and knowing how the music to gaming overlap exists would be valuable to someone like myself. Thanks!
@MarioGoatse
Жыл бұрын
The CPU market is finally exciting again! You really love to see it! Can't wait to see DDR5 to come down more so i can take advantage of these latest improvements though. It's still a little out of my price range. Thanks once again GN team. We appreciate the work you all do!
@DuBstep115
Жыл бұрын
Is it? Entry level amd platform is like 1000€ with ddr5, 7700x and mobo
@infernaldaedra
Жыл бұрын
There's no games that even seem to be benefiting tbh :( the problem right now is the game development itself
@DuBstep115
Жыл бұрын
@@infernaldaedra Nope, you have never needed a good cpu for gaming. I run 4k oled TV as monitor and 5820k from 2014 and I am not CPU bound at all with my 6900XT
@dapope3673
Жыл бұрын
@@DuBstep115 Cap
@alexanderruchkov7629
Жыл бұрын
@@DuBstep115 what is the made of the monitor and how is it with text/coding?
@orangecapy9494
Жыл бұрын
I think it would be very useful to add system (or CPU) power consumption during idling and/or gaming, because I think not a lot of people need their CPU to execute heavy tasks continuously...
@robertmyers6488
Жыл бұрын
You shouldn't buy this cpu for gaming so it is irrelevant. Buy this if you render. Then again you get the better of both with 7900x.
@orangecapy9494
Жыл бұрын
@@robertmyers6488 I was speaking in general, not specifically to this CPU. Though I'd argue that even people who use high-end CPUs for rendering may have significant idling times. And that gamers do buy these CPUs
@__aceofspades
Жыл бұрын
Intel has lower idle power consumption because AMD's I/O die drinks power when idle.
@TJ.85
Жыл бұрын
@@orangecapy9494 gamers absolutely buy these chips.... It's not that much more than 13600k and does offer meaningful gaming uplifts and at 4k/120 every frame you can get counts but it does it without costing 50%+ more like that 13900k (now THAT'S a chip only a production person should worry about) I got my 13700k for $350 and it's well worth it for gaming!
@robertmyers6488
Жыл бұрын
@@__aceofspades you are burning a hundred watts more per hour in performing the supposed benefit of this cpu. The idle doesn't. Require cooling and a larger power supply. Face it burns a lot of power that requires costs. The 7900x is a no brainer for the same thread count.
@jacksonsardello3959
Жыл бұрын
Pretty pleased with my 13700k purchase. After weighing the extra platform cost to jump on a new AMD socket AND pay for DDR5, I couldn't make myself make the leap. Ended up buying a Z690 board and reusing my DDR4 memory. I made the mistake of buying an i5 6600k years ago. This was right at the end of the "4 cores is all you'll ever need for gaming" era. I'm ok spending a little bit extra to future proof my purchase.
@silotes94
Жыл бұрын
I am in the same boat as you i have a 6600K now and i really need a decent cpu now for gaming :)
@jacksonsardello3959
Жыл бұрын
@@silotes94 grab a z690 board and make the jump! It'll be a great upgrade.
@animatrix1851
Жыл бұрын
6600 boat, EOL which is why now that the 7900x is on sale i feel inclined towards it given the same price given how Intel messed me up. I could possibly even make do with a cheaper cooler.
@SVT_LIGHTNING
Жыл бұрын
When i bought my 6700k back in 2016 and awesomesauce "now bitwit" and paul were saying i5 is all you need for gaming and in 2017 amd out of nowhere reminded everyone that wasn't the case lol I knew it in bf1 that 4 cores wasn't enough. Had my 6700k sweating hard out of the box. Even overclocked that poor thing to 4.7ghz at 1.4v for years lol Once I went to a 10700k back in 2020 it was a night and day difference on every single game I play. The 1% lows upgrade was the biggest thing for me. 8 cores is the sweet spot and i'll never go under 8 cores ever again. That's why i'm worried about the upcoming intel 14th gen. Been reading around the top of the line i9 cpu will only be a 6 core. Hope that isn't true..
@jacksonsardello3959
Жыл бұрын
@@SVT_LIGHTNING Well I can tell you that my new CPU is awesome so hopefully it will have a bit more longevity before it starts to show it's age!
@eunoiaeudaimonia6829
Жыл бұрын
I was planning to build an I913900K for my first built, but stepped away from the I9 because of reported high temps. I wasn't sure about that for a first assembly so i went with the I7 13700K. Z690E STRIX DDR5 32GB 6200Mhz 3090TI
@BBlueBBasterd
Жыл бұрын
I would give both of my kidneys to have GN use their resources to benchmark ARMA 3 on these CPUs, it's so incredibly CPU dependant and scales well with the cache on the CPUs, I'd be so incredibly curious to see what it scales/performs like on different hardware. Unfortunately I don't think the game is quite popular enough to ever be used in a benchmark.
@Werdna12345
Жыл бұрын
1:37 Thank you for listing the cpus and prices. Normies like me don’t have all of the names and prices memorized. The table is really helpful
@toddsimone7182
Жыл бұрын
I'm feeling just fine with my 13700k that I upgraded from the legendary X58 platform with a Xeon X5680 at 4.4ghz. I'll just say the gains were fairly substantial! As far as power usage goes it seems Intel was quite safe making sure all CPU's remain stable and cranked the vcore much higher than it probably needs. Mine would near 1.4V at times and with a -100mV undervolt I dropped the package temp from 87C to 78C in cinebench. Not only did temps drop nearly 10C, power saw around a 50W reduction under load and to top it off it scores the same if not higher 30k plus in MT. It seems undervolting is the new norm for both Intel and AMD and if you don't do it you're missing out on a lot of free advantages.
@xiaowei1
Жыл бұрын
I also upgraded from an intel 4790k to the 13700. The increased performance was very noticeable.
@Trikipum
Жыл бұрын
undervolting has been the thing to do for the last 15 years ...
@Sundara229
Жыл бұрын
Ryzen 7000 already received heavy discounts here in Germany. The 7700X was 460€ at the time I bought it and the price dropped to 370€ last week (390€ as of today).
@gasbrenner2264
Жыл бұрын
Which other components did you buy? Board and Ram and SSDs?
@Sundara229
Жыл бұрын
@@gasbrenner2264 MSI B650 Tomahawk Wifi (270€), 32 Gb G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 6000cl30 (265€) and a WD SN850X 1 TB SSD (~110€). Also grabbed an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 for 80€ off of the Arctic eBay store, but a 360 or even 280 are more than sufficient. Just check if your cooler is affected by Arctics recall and has the corresponding "QC" mark if you're buying from a 3rd party seller or 2nd hand.
@randomstuffbychris
Жыл бұрын
Im planning on building a PC soon and your reviews have been invaluable, thank you
@Vinterloft
Жыл бұрын
Imagine doing 270% more power consumption to get lower 0.1% and 1% lows than the 5800X3D, and trading blows in averages. At least it's decent for workstation use.
@Gabriel3Gamu
Жыл бұрын
Great review and benchmarks. I recently got one and I must say I'm very satisfied with it. Even though I could've gone with a 13600k.
@kathrynck
Жыл бұрын
5800X3D, 7900X, and 13700k are the only 3 cpu's I'd think about buying right now. I kinda lean towards the 7900X, as it and the 13700 are stronger on productivity (mixed use), but the 7900x draws a lot less power, and actually increases in performance with a further modest down-tune in voltage (avoids thermal throttling, somewhat silicon dependent though). I also want at least 8 big cores purely for the primary application, with some additional compute outside those for background stuff (which the 5800X3D lacks). That matters in productivity _now_ but could eventually matter in gaming too. More pcie lanes on AMD too.
@infernaldaedra
Жыл бұрын
I like the Idea of the X3D technology with the RDNA3 where the gpu has faster cache from the CPU. I'm curious how much a benefit you really get though.
@SALMANNNNNNN
Жыл бұрын
based on what you are upgrading from going 7th gen AMD you will need to change a lot more than just the CPU
@kathrynck
Жыл бұрын
@@SALMANNNNNNN Yeah. Not really talking about an upgrade, but an all new build. I'd kinda like to keep the old beast functional for other purposes.
@indrek.a
Жыл бұрын
Purchased mine on launch weekend as a replacement for 6700k, happy with it so far. Only needed to undervolt for it to not throttle with a Corsair H105 under full load.
@gwman90
Жыл бұрын
No joke, I was just searching Reddit a couple hours ago trying to find out why there wasn’t a GN 13700k video. You guys rock!
@Neuro1989
Жыл бұрын
I recently upgraded from a 8600k to a 13700k, couldn't be more pleased with this processor. It exceeded my expectations by far.
@MustafaKhan-fs3np
Жыл бұрын
which cooler are you using liquid cooler or air cooler? I'm using deepcool LE500 for i7 13700k
@gunnarswanchara5270
Жыл бұрын
I've got a 13600k coming to upgrade from a non k 8700. I'm real excited lol
Got 13700KF shipped for $379.99 from ebay dealer. They also have 13600KF for $274.99 currently.
@MrCodeslinger
Жыл бұрын
@@jaggsta Yeah I picked mine up from MC yesterday. That price was just too good to pass up. Glad you snagged one for that price too. A massive upgrade for me over my old 6950X.
@Huderkadurka
Жыл бұрын
Commentary on the 5800x3d is on point, seeing the performance compared to 13700k and 7700x in gaming sold me. Please keep doing GTA. 😢
@numberzthegreat
11 ай бұрын
Love the i7 gen chips. Looking to upgrade my motherboard and chip from the i7-7700 to the i7-13700k (Currently priced at $375.99). This upgrade is also going to be my first step into AIO's and I'm glad you tested the performance with the Arctic Freezer AIO I intended to buy for this build. Great review! thank you!
@NomadJRG
Жыл бұрын
Upgraded my sandybridge 2500k to a 13600k. It was a lovely jump in performance!
@rounaks6519
Жыл бұрын
Considering this jump from my 2500K now
@NomadJRG
Жыл бұрын
@@rounaks6519 well worth the upgrade, the 13600k is 2x as fast as a 5ghz 2500k in single core performance (3x as fast as a stock 2500k) and 5x faster in multicore workloads. They also overclock pretty well if you get a good cooler.
@rounaks6519
Жыл бұрын
@@NomadJRG what cooler did you end up getting
@NomadJRG
Жыл бұрын
@@rounaks6519 Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo V2
@luminance69
Жыл бұрын
sometimes i find myself wondering how soft steves hair is
@Lucaat
Жыл бұрын
I got it, I think it‘s a winner, cheaper than competitor, great gaming, single and very good multicore productivity performance. Also runs DDR4 i could port from previous build.
@moe18777
Жыл бұрын
Ordered a 13600k for $320 then saw microcenter is selling the 13700k for $370. Ended up getting the 700k $50 extra seems well worth it.
@FlergerBergitydersh
Жыл бұрын
"Sometimes software has specific quirks." -The kindest thing Gamers Nexus has ever said about Adobe Premiere
@techcoyote
Жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Went from a 9700k to a 13700k, definitely have noticed a performance improvement
@_pant0m
Жыл бұрын
yah! 2-3 interval was the best path upgrade
@Incursoe
Жыл бұрын
I'm on 9700k and my 13600k is arriving soon. Can't wait.
@lagarttemido
Жыл бұрын
You guys really enjoy buying into dead platforms, don't you? How did it feel like watching everyone upgrading on AM4 for cheap? Ready for history to repeat itself on AM5?
@Incursoe
Жыл бұрын
@@lagarttemido I mean considering we got the others on release 4 years ago and only upgraded now, none of us are even going to notice, cause as you may have noticed, we're not the type to upgrade every single time a new thing comes out.
@dhLotan
Жыл бұрын
@@lagarttemido I've been looking through all these comments and no one is opting for the 7700X or 7900X, which I'm thinking of getting because in 2024 or 2025 I can buy the chip that's beating 14 or 15th gen intel with no motherboard move. I don't know why you blame them though. That "dead" platform is insanely fast - and stable. Intel also has way higher memory bandwidth than AM5 is achieving w/ DDR5 too. A lot of Intel users upgrade every 5-10 years. A new platform is always required with that type of frequency. I do think it's a perk to upgrade in 2-4 years to whatever the latest CPU was for your platform. People that I know in the gaming community don't do a CPU swap unless they're going to the latest chips on the latest platforms. Hence why people don't care it's "dead" socket wise.
@africanricc3458
5 ай бұрын
This processor is beastly….with this processor I can run SQUAD at 4K with an rtx 3060….and I hardly go lower than 70 fps…..runs ready or not at 3K, uncharted at 2K….but it runs HOT so liquid cooling AIO is paramount….dont listen to the “air cooler will be fine” when I was running an air cooler I was getting 95-100c JUST GAMING….with a deep cool AIO I don’t go above 81c. Get this over the i9 trust…
@SplurginSergeon
Жыл бұрын
Damn, denying the urge to upgrade my 6700k to something shiny and new is getting REALLY hard these days...
@SharkUte
Жыл бұрын
Just installed my new 13600k with a z690 (all hail Q-Flash Plus) following your review of it. These new benchmarks just further cement my decision. I really wanted to go AMD to upgrade my ageing 8700k, but the value in the 13600k is just crazy. Especially paired with a discounted "old" MB and the RAM I already had. I hope AMD can do something for the 3Ds to redeem themselves on this generation a bit, the cost of entry is just too high and not justifiable right now. Thanks Steve !
@UncleSev
Жыл бұрын
In the same boat. Intels offer was just too good. AMD is just not off to a good start this gen. But as you said, X3D will properly fix that. I just can't wait that long for a maybe. Hope AMD can change my mind when I need to upgrade in 6 years.
@pablodrescher-flores9884
Жыл бұрын
The 13600k power consumption versus the 8% to 10% performance increase against the 13700k starts to make the long-term energy cost a considerable factor.
@_pant0m
Жыл бұрын
offset -.100-.130v
@UncleSev
Жыл бұрын
The i7 also powers more cores. So of course it will draw more power. The i7 and i9 are for people that do more than gaming at 1080p. i7 = Gaming at max settings, Ray-tracing, 1440p-4K + streaming i9= all what the i7 can do + 3D and render work and more. But as others have pointed out, Intel is doing an old trick from AMD days before Ryzen. Jack up the power to gain more performance.
@timoluetk
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, also in terms of not contibuting to the planets heat death seems like a smarter option.
@Winnetou17
Жыл бұрын
If you care about power consumption, you can just limit the CPU power available. At the cost of reduced performance... maybe. Seriously though, in gaming, it rarely goes above 150W, usually more around 110W. And like I said, you can limit it for full load scenarios. And, say, decrease the power to half, but only get something like 15-25% less performance. You'd be surprised how efficient even Intel chips can get when they are not pushed to the maximum. Though on average, the Zen 4 chips are still doing better (being on that TSMC's 5nm helps a lot)
@4epa1012
Жыл бұрын
@@_pant0m You don't even need to offset anything. I have Asrock mobo with i5 13600K, everything at stock, just changed CPU Vcore Compensation to Level 1 and CPU Cooler type to Air Cooler and now I am getting 70-75C on Cinebench R23, cooled with Deepcool AK620. This CPU rocks!
@sgthaddix2604
Жыл бұрын
I was waiting on this review to decide between AMD and INTEL this generation, great review!
@korecomputers
Жыл бұрын
Thanks as always for your reviews GN! Hope we can get some more RAM and HDD & NVMe benchmarks?
@QuiteLunacy
Жыл бұрын
Even happier with my purchase after watching this video. My 13700k will arrive Friday and I will finally be putting my 3600 to rest. Can't wait to see the difference in performance.
@UncleSev
Жыл бұрын
From 3000 gen, you should see a HUGE improvment. 13700k will last you for a while
@warrax111
Жыл бұрын
@@UncleSev 3600 is amd, intel was ivy bridge on i7-3770
@UncleSev
Жыл бұрын
@@warrax111 ah, my bad 😅
@PlayJasch
Жыл бұрын
I got the i7 13700k for 450 euros quite a big deal 20 days ago it was 540 here. CPU market is great unlike the GPU in europe. Also Intel supports 7200+ ddr5 now. Which is finally a kinda good upgrade compared to ddr4 3600 at close to double the CAS latency. It´s in the mail, thanks for validating my purchase. Now I can sleep well xD
@kernoleary1394
Жыл бұрын
I'm curious about this, I haven't done a deep dive on ddr5 but I've noticed the CAS is much higher. Is there a performance gain to be had in gaming when double the speed but also doubling the CAS?
@PlayJasch
Жыл бұрын
@@kernoleary1394 Well from my basic knowledge when you double your speed and double your CAS you get the same latency but at a higher data rate. So in basic theory DDR5 should perform in all cases equal or better (if high data is required e.g. Open World). But there are like 50 timings in a ram so take this with a grain of salt. (and I dont know how they affect performance)
@awof
Жыл бұрын
@@kernoleary1394 Oh my god its Kevin O' Leary.
@kernoleary1394
Жыл бұрын
@@awof indeed, undercover
@MarkRose1337
Жыл бұрын
I don't play a lot of high FPS games, but strategy and simulation. Is there any chance of seeing a Civ 6 turn time benchmark when the 7000 series X3D comes out? Would be nice to compare 5800X3D 5950X 7700X 7950X against a hypothetical 7700X3D.
@henryruhs
Жыл бұрын
Great video. I still wonder why all popular KZitemrs recommend a dead platform or at least never express their concerns!?
@jaggsta
Жыл бұрын
13700KF is currently $379.99 on Ebay dealer way cheaper then most stores.
@TheTyphoon365
Жыл бұрын
I want to thank the GN team in it's entirety, you guys are my personal favorite YT channel - and one of the extreme few that I watch constantly. Some things I really appreciate: your integrity when it comes to dealing with companies, and other business relationships, and the clearly high levels of pride you rightfully take in your own work. I notice that unlike all other KZitemrs, you don't jump-cut your speech every 3 seconds, and instead just, speak passionately about the subject at hand. It also seems like you Steve, are not reading word for word off a script, and instead reference well-written notes. This makes the delivery of the information and the video itself feel authentic, warm, and real. Also, the editors and graphics artists have done wonderfully. I love the falling timer-bars on the sides of the screen when displaying a graph. A small, yet very welcome and helpful detail that few tend to think of. Very well done, GN you are the model that others should strive to be, and you have my respect. Thank you for the phenomenal videos and entertaining hardware and engineering documentation.
@hustleathomeph
Жыл бұрын
This is a very awesome review. Hopefully you'll feature 13th gen benchmarks on ddr4 motherboards and memory soon
@EruAnor
Жыл бұрын
I'm still on a 6700K. I originally wanted to switch to last gen Ryzen but wasn't able too. Now I'm considering staying with Intel again seeing how the new Ryzen chips are super hot. The house I'm in is super old and breakers trip easily if I draw too much power in. Considering the 13600k or 13700k. Interesting to see how this video ends.
@jc5512
Жыл бұрын
Interesting that the i9 often has lower lows than the i7. I'd argue that this is more important than the averages when averages are so high. You won't notice 160 vs 180 average but you might notice 60 vs 80 minimums.
@dex4sure361
Жыл бұрын
margin of error. in many tests the i5 3600k had better lows than either i7 13700k or i9 13900k.
@tommy-jt6kj
Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this. Picked up a 4090 recently and looking for a cpu upgrade as well over my “old” i9-10850k
@clansome
Жыл бұрын
Please don't call it old, that's what I have with my 3080. Yeah I know it is old technically but mine replaced an aging but defiant 2600K !!
@blkshp25
Жыл бұрын
Wait for AMD's new X3D lineup in a few months
@TJ.85
Жыл бұрын
I replaced my 10900k with this chip and couldn't be happier it's a beast in gaming and for what little "productivity" stuff I do it's been tearing right through it as well! Well worth it ESPECIALLY if you can get it for micro center pricing of under $400
@clansome
Жыл бұрын
@@blkshp25 That is the problem, always waiting for what's round the corner. It won't be cheap either, certainly not $50 more. will probably be priced to undercut the 13900k say $590 to $600 depending on how greedy AMD want to be.
@dkis8730
Жыл бұрын
@@blkshp25 I was gonna wait for amds x3d, but after looking at these reviews, it might just equalize with the new Intel cpus
@TheCasualGamersGamer-ih7ju
5 ай бұрын
upgraded from an i5 13400f and the difference is still HUGE!! This paired with an RTX 4080 will run ANYTHING at ANY RESOLUTION....
@Marke522
6 ай бұрын
Purchased this CPU in November with a bundle from Micro Center, and I really couldn't be happier. Running it at 5.3, and currently using an RX 7800 XT, which Micro Center had at an amazing price. Had a tower that was about 10 years old, using an i5-3550 with a 1060Ti. Such a huge upgrade. Thanks for all the great videos, keep them coming!!
@FluxStage
Жыл бұрын
How would you guys feel about changing around a little with your CPU blender benchmark? Instead of showing graph of render times with all CPU's, would there be a way to say benchmark FPS performance in viewport like just rolling thru your intro animation? Since no one 'is or should' render with their CPU's anyway, but it seems like they do a bigger difference during viewport performance. Where you acually do the work before giving it to the GPU for render. Or I might be wrong. Love your work as always! Cheers
@samgoff5289
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter...the test is to show performance compared to other CPUs and they have the data for older CPUs to compare it with, wouldn't make sense to change to a new test when they already have the data to use for compareing against another cpu
@FluxStage
Жыл бұрын
@@samgoff5289 Fair point. It would be like adding another game to the chart. Annoying yes but over time it could work. Just feeel like blender charts are a little bit miss representive. Example: TR 3970x vs. 13700k. On a normal chart the Threadripper cpu would win since it has more cores and can render faster. But no one renders with CPU power and I bet the 13700k would be overall a way better experience in viewport performance. But! I might be wrong. Maybe time to dig out the old parts at home and test them.
@davidmoffitt981
Жыл бұрын
Great video and echoes my own personal gaming and "creator" / professional experience. I got a 13900K as so much of what I do for work is single thread / core clock dependant but for gaming + part time studio work a 13700K is a heck of a performer and you could get (couple of thoughts) faster DDR5 (if your workflow even cares 5 vs 4), spend more on a GPU, larger and/or quicker NVME, heck put the difference toward a custom loop...
@braethorn
Жыл бұрын
I'm really looking forward to the 13400 for multi-purpose systems on a budget :D
@eycoregamer7143
Жыл бұрын
My PC rig is almost 5 years. I'm starting to upgrade the cpu from 8700k to 13700k and also other rig parts except rtx3080 and 850W PSU.
@wenderajade
Жыл бұрын
I just upgraded to the 13700K from a 9900X and it is SUCH an improvement. I actually had the i9 in my cart, but by the time I compared a few motherboards it had sold out. Honestly so happy that made me consider the i7 because I really needed that "cool your jets" moment 🤣 The difference between the i9 and i7 seems so negligible for my uses
@laggmonstret
Жыл бұрын
Was going to jump back to Intel, but ended up with a 5800X3D instead. That's a real money saver that ;)
@nathanmcdonald610
Жыл бұрын
I just parted together a new PC and put it on order yesterday and did the exact same thing as you. I was going with the I9 13900K but after some research I learned that the I9 13900 wasn't really practical for my application and the I7 13700 is more than enough, it'll be a HUGE upgrade over my current PC that uses I5 6400K.
@ToxicWurm
Жыл бұрын
Dang I'm happy I bought a 5800X3D. It stands out a lot in these benchmarks
@paulpietschinski3282
Жыл бұрын
How do you like the performance of your CPU. I can get one for around $400 CDN, and i am looking to upgrade from a 3600xt.
@yousuff1
Жыл бұрын
@@paulpietschinski3282 i upgraded from a 3700x to 5800x3d and it's a very noticeable difference.
@kwlxxi4813
Жыл бұрын
Performance per watt, 5800X3D is unbeatable.
@GimmeYourShoes
Жыл бұрын
You guys have to do a video on these crazy ddr5 XMP ram instabilities on the z690 and z790
@aprilmeowmeow
Жыл бұрын
Got this for $379 today, super excited.
@blakeolinger1220
Жыл бұрын
The 12600K is quite impressive considering the price
@AustnTok
Жыл бұрын
I have the 12600k. its great and I really like it. I have it paired with an MSI VENTUS 3X 3080 Ti and I play at 1440p on a Samsung G50A 27". great CPU and I get some pretty crazy FPS at 1440p.
@tilapiadave3234
Жыл бұрын
Very true
@rayith
Жыл бұрын
I would have loved to see the benchmarks tested on the rtx 4090 instead of the 3090ti.
@TheEmperorHyperion
Жыл бұрын
Maybe later when the cable problem is resolved.
@joemarais7683
Жыл бұрын
They’re testing CPU bound cases anyways so it really doesn’t make a difference, and they’d have to retest every other cpu with the 4090 to have consistent data and that’s crazy to ask for
@Exteliongamer
Жыл бұрын
I know it will be a lot of work but I would also like to see this and also another test when the 7900xtx comes out to see which if certain cpu works well with a certain gpu
@L39T
Жыл бұрын
@@TheEmperorHyperion it is resolved
@dw2176
Жыл бұрын
probably caught fire
@AlgosExplained
Жыл бұрын
such a well made comprehensive review of the different cpu's. thanks so much!
@nickw6068
Жыл бұрын
As a suggestion, would love to see some data on idle power usage for CPUs and systems in general. Saw a nice video by @theTechNotice saying intel idle was like 50w lower than AMD. At 10hours a day, 5.5 days a week, £0.34 per unit, that's around £50 a year difference, just for CPU. That's now. If you're looking at 5-10 years lifetime, who know where prices are going. That could be a point for intel in an otherwise close race. In productivity, most of time is not spent building or compiling but editing and thinking
@schoat333
Жыл бұрын
I love this data. Really showing some real competition between AMD and Intel depending on what you are doing. Which is really great to see. Intel finally has to work harder and price accordingly.
@stevenross-watt8640
Жыл бұрын
I wanted a fast gaming machine but couldn't convince myself to spend the top tier 13900k prices so opted for 13700k. It felt about right.
@boerhae
Жыл бұрын
will be doing the same soon
@bufflobeel
Жыл бұрын
currently using 13700K, and its really really smooth and fast with heavy muilti-tasking( at least 8 tabs on google chrome, Photoshop processing 5gb plus file, debut screen recording, spotify playing in background or vlc video playback as well as 2-3 other softwares all opened at once). FYI, i upgraded from i5-2400 which is also a beast in it own game, but this time really felt the improvement of CPU technology.
@soupysoup931
Жыл бұрын
I like how good the CPU competition is where both parties fry each other hard.
@WilliamOwyong
Жыл бұрын
I went from an i7-4790 to i7-12700KF. I've got no regrets (it's great at 1440p) and will probably only consider a CPU upgrade only when Intel release the last CPU to support LGA1700 sockets.
@WSS_the_OG
Жыл бұрын
" i7-4790 to i7-12700KF. I've got no regrets" What could anyone possibly regret with such a massive upgrade?
@WilliamOwyong
Жыл бұрын
@@WSS_the_OG Exactly. At 1440p the difference between the 12th and 13th gen CPUs, for what I use my PC for at least, is negligible. If this new PC lasts the ~8 years the 4790 system did, with minimal upgrades, then even better.
@righteousone8454
Жыл бұрын
I bought i9-13900k, not because I edit, which I do occasionally. I game. The thing is...I ALT+Tab a LOT...while gaming, and go back to KZitem between long spawns. Having i9-13900k made a HUGE difference, compared to i9-9900k. Allows me to watch a short part of the video and bounce back and forth.
@HellGatefr2
Жыл бұрын
13700k would have the same result
@kevinsmith4329
Жыл бұрын
Smart choice!
@NovaDoll
Жыл бұрын
One reason I got the 5900x when it came out and the 3900x before that.
@righteousone8454
Жыл бұрын
@@HellGatefr2 almost, but not quite. Because I run a ton of background stuff like Steam, Msi afterburner, Riva Tuner, Razer Synapse, and I will still use my computer when rendering. 13900k is amazing in that aspect. I could use KZitem easily when having cores pinned at 100% in Aida64. Not a single cpu I had could do that. Video doesn't lag either.
@eniff2925
Жыл бұрын
@@righteousone8454 i can do the same with my 4 thread 4670k
@RPGWiZaRD
Жыл бұрын
I just upgraded to a 13700K coming from a 9700K as I wanted at least 8 performance cores as I already had 8 cores from before to really feel like I got a full upgrade sorta. I went with Intel only due to cost since being able to stick with my current Samsung B-die DDR4 RAM and the Z690 DDR4 motherboards were overall pretty cheap compared to most DDR5 and AMD motherboards, was saving quite a few pennies there. It's kinda funny how the roles have reversed that Intel has gotten the "budget friendly" option. The temperature was a bit of a shock initially and I use a Arctic Freezer II 360 AIO + Arctic MX-6 thermal paste with Thermalright CPU Contact Frame so I was expecting to be quite well set but even with this setup it would reach 90C+ fairly soon on some cores in CineBench R23 with AVX-2 load but then I also saw it boosted up to 1.462v during full load which also came a bit of a shock coming from a 9700K which I ran at 1.34v and 1.36v was sorta the maximum possible on air cooling on that CPU with acceptable temps. Oh well running XTU's CPU stress test for example show a much more reasonable 72~80C or so max temp and while gaming for example it's more in the 50-60C max or so. Instead of undervolting since the temps were still "acceptable" I went for boosting clocks as much as possible at the standard volts (or whatever the motherboard was feeding it anyway) and only had to change LLC set on my ASRock motherboard from LLC 5 to level 4 (they are reversed on ASRock as in Level1 will provide the least drop and Level5 the most) and was able to get even 5.7 - 5.6GHz stable across the cores up from 5.4 / 5.3GHz standard and temps are pretty much the same as before. Changing the LLC setting XTU reported like ~213W'ish at LLC5 and 230~241W or so at LLC4 setting running CPU stress test if that is of any accuracy idk but it stopped CPU from failing the test. The LLC5 setting did run a bit cooler than LLC4 too. The memory controller appears much more stable compared to my previous 9700K so reached a bit higher RAM frequency with my Samsung B-die DDR4-3200 CL14 4x8GB DDR4 sticks at same voltage. Went from like ~47.000 MB/s Read, ~46.500 MB/s write, 48.500 MB/s Copy and 58 ns latency with default XMP profile settings in Aida64 benchmark to like 53.000 / 51.000 / 55.000 MB/s / 49.5~49.8 ns latency just tweaking around the ram timings and frequency, I run at only DDR4 3400 CL14-14-14-28 at 1.41v so not really pushing these RAM sticks I've had for a very long time but I feel I'm getting very good performance for the modest settings so might keep it like this as it will be a while until I upgrade the system next time. 3DMark CPU score went up from like 18xxx something to 20.500'ish with the OC settings.
@fengxii
Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate talking about the hobbyist market, a lot of folks want a little more power in Premiere without going for the Ryzen 9s or i9s
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