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@LazerFocus3113
7 жыл бұрын
They have really done wonders with Ryzen in terms of optimization. Gaming performance is practically on par with the i7 7700k which is a far shot from what it was on release(Like 20-30% behind in most cases). I honestly wouldn't have expected this. 8 Cores 16Threads for 4-6W in the difference over 4C/8T is phenomenal.
@SuperJosteen
7 жыл бұрын
Larry Smith its around 2-20 frames behind in these benchmarks tho, but yeah it was far worse on launch gotta hand to amd, they really did tried their best.
@Andytlp
7 жыл бұрын
games run smoother on the right.
@slver6831
7 жыл бұрын
yep exactly thats what i was thinking the whole video!!!
@semitope
7 жыл бұрын
1 fps difference in tomb raider. faster in crysis iirc.
@mt441
7 жыл бұрын
Its more bios and agesa updates that ironed out the memory performance kinks, infinity fabric runs at half speed of ram. Imagine 4000mhz DDR4 in a improved ryzen or more with a 2-3ghz infinity fabric. almost IPC perfect with 5ghz+ i7.
@HelihunterX
7 жыл бұрын
I was a Intel Fanboy. But since 2017 i say AMD is the smart peoples choice!
@fokthewef
5 жыл бұрын
Ive been saying this since 2004. Remember. It was Amd that gave us 64bit computing whilst Intel was just pumping cache on tired architecture to screw consumers.
@stoppls2881
5 жыл бұрын
@@fokthewef damn bruh i was too, an intel fanboy and thought that amd is shit but now holy shit they're good af n i cant wait for the 3000 series
@jonathanoxlade4252
4 жыл бұрын
Well even if on and if I had 70fps vs 90fps with intel it’s not worth the extra price nvida gpus are better due to technology atleast they make something like ray tracing but as I understand amd will have ray tracing and the same technology so does dropping 5fps for amd since consoles mainly want to have 4K 60fps at ultra settings lol 😂
@stev367
4 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanoxlade4252 so which is better amd or intel?
@Sh-hg8kf
4 жыл бұрын
@@stev367 amd!
@danield.7359
7 жыл бұрын
Ryzen runs the games at 25-30% CPU load, while performing on par with the higher clocked 7700K. Truly impressive.
@projetx7
7 жыл бұрын
Its not fair to judge it this way considering that Ryzen has 16 threads while 7700K has 8, most games use 4 cores so if you see it as 4/16 that would equal to 25%. I do however agree that Ryzen is truly impressive and will be in my next build.
@danield.7359
7 жыл бұрын
Projetx7 yeah I agree from a technical point of view, but I compare price/performance, and from that perspective both the i7 7700 and the Ryzen 1700 play in the same league. So I guess that Intel will see itself exposed to many, many more "unfair" comparisons. At least until they catch up with AMD in terms of production process (what Intel likes to refer to as "glued together CPUs") and more importantly the node leadership which intel currently seems to be losing to Samsung/GloFo/IBM/AMD...
@Gabrong
7 жыл бұрын
it means, you can have more/heavier stuff in the background if you need it for some reason.
@dimfre4kske67
7 жыл бұрын
Gabor> And there you said it "for some reason" which means that for 90% of gamers that means there is no reason.
@thomassmith4999
7 жыл бұрын
I was here, I watched, Ryzen was the winner for me.
@fernandoaguero2814
7 жыл бұрын
I always check the comments to see what the experts have to say. Great video btw!
@captainoblivionthicc1004
6 жыл бұрын
Fer ddsc Intel for gaming Ryzen for streaming and editing
@70174
7 жыл бұрын
anyone notice the CPU usage?
@hardware64
7 жыл бұрын
Which pretty much makes his point
@Nost2682
7 жыл бұрын
He tests games at 1080p and Ultra an we didn't see the GPU load.
@xSS4x
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it goes to show that most games barely require more than 2 cores. 50% load on the i7 and 25% on ryzen both means only 2 cores need to be fully utilized . . .
@forknife6996
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, AMD like 25% usage and Intel 60 % usage ..... I would expect more from Intel CPU!
@flame_of_the_west8909
7 жыл бұрын
TejkoRubix TejkoRubix that's because AMD has more cores. Not because intel is worse.
@sjv2493
7 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison... I hope to find time and patiently edit videos like this and upload them... Awesome work...
@Nicolas11x12English
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your kind words!
@odayalraslan4767
7 жыл бұрын
man.... that 1700x is a beast
@wildberrycitrus8191
7 жыл бұрын
Intel always wins.
@zenitsuvalorant
7 жыл бұрын
look at cinebench and rendering video looollll you're just a funboy
@khanhubeo9852
7 жыл бұрын
yeah for pro, not for gamers
@dimfre4kske67
7 жыл бұрын
Oynuyor> Cinebench score, like all pure benchmark programs, is not indicative of real world performance. Everyone who is technically knowledgeable knows this. And the video rendering argument is simply laughable coming from you. Many amd fanboys trying to justify their purchase and pretending like they have a super cpu in their pc's now have tried it and invariably the number of videos they have on their channel is abysmally low even non existent. In your case your 1 video uploaded 3 years ago doesn't give you a workload that justifies the additional cores. Your computer would perform better with a chip from intel.
@cobrastomas
7 жыл бұрын
lol i think u need glasses
@kimokato
7 жыл бұрын
I still choose the AMD 1700X instead of the Intel Core 7700K. AMD is more affordable, performance in editing programs and how long it has more than 60 FPS in games i'm happy.
@Cambaudio
6 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you couldn't afford the i7 :(
@DoliPanjaitan
6 жыл бұрын
Wait for 4 or 5 years, see if your AMD powered PC still runs or not. Cheers, Intel user.
@SantaiTapiPasti27
5 жыл бұрын
@@Cambaudio i can buy 2 i7 7700K if i want, but i'm smart people who value money the most
@theotherchannel2279
7 жыл бұрын
5 Intel fan boys are really butt hurt today...
@sbeve7445
7 жыл бұрын
now there are 21
@xfxati3850
7 жыл бұрын
Elite Dangerous Club more than 10000000
@LoomGloom
7 жыл бұрын
? Intel draws less power, costs less, and hase more fps overall oO
@LoomGloom
7 жыл бұрын
Yes but that doesn't apply to 95% of gamers so for the majority, intel is obviously the better choice
@gere6357
7 жыл бұрын
no we are not as the video does not represent the truth true compare intel vs amd 2017 amdvsintel2017 . blogspot . com thanks
@valdyprawhesmara3658
7 жыл бұрын
Have bought and built a Ryzen system...never looked back since The development is fantastic....
@DigIntoGaming
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing CPU values as well. So many people have this misconception that using 100% CPU is a good thing when it clearly isnt! I cant recommend any CPU that has less than 6 cores now simply because if you want to have something like google chrome open when gaming you will max out your CPU in most high end games! Not to mention that Ryzen 1700 is 8 cores 16 threads for only $300, that is an incredible value and will allow you to do many things. From gaming to game development,streaming and video content creation! Its just not worth it to buy an intel CPU for maybe 10 more fps. Great video!
@Nicolas11x12English
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your positive feedback!
@MLWJ1993
7 жыл бұрын
Games don't use all cores. If you we're to do this 100% fair you'd either have to factor in each single cores load (*probably* also 100% on AMD) or not count the cores on the AMD cpu that the game can't use. Now if you were to look for future-proofing or heavy multitasking more cores could be helpfull, the downside to it is singlecore performance will drop to offset too much heat production (or if not done, cause thermal throttling). All in all high cpu usage means all is used which might mean bottleneck, but low cpu usage means either the cpu is doing fine and has nothing more to do *or* is at 100% at x cores but application can't use another core for said process so still bottleneck, but this time caused by the application. It's just not easy to compare unequal things and usually the numbers may mean something entirely different than what is thought at first glance.
@DigIntoGaming
7 жыл бұрын
I wasnt speaking to only games. I am using a i7 3770k with gtx 980 FE. When playing Ubisoft games ie Ghost recon wildlands or Watchdogs 2 they use all of my cores and threads. Causing a loss in frames due to 100% cpu usage. Even in some less demanding games like The long dark. Having google chrome open while watching a video maxes out my cpu causing loss of frames. Thats why I recommend 6 cores atleast so if you like to do anything while you game you will have plenty of cpu usage left for those tasks and your game will get what it needs to run at full speed. Most games do not use all cores but they are using more and more every year. Most games use up to 4 cores now. Especially AAA title games. So if your wanting to do anything else other than game and your willing to lose 10 fps on average but still have 60 fps if you have a decent gpu in most games then cores are where its at. besides a 6 core amd costs less than a quad core intel. So its a win win!
@unreal1657
7 жыл бұрын
And to ask you how long is this AMD CPU will last? i have Q6600 intel for 11 years now and it still runs at 4 Ghz overclocked , for witch AMD you can say that? AMD is still shit and selling lower price garbage for you to last you 3-4 years, i dont buy PC to change it every 2-4 years i buy it to last 10 or more years then i change i dont want to waste money every year !!! like AMD so good luck with your AMD ill stick to intel
@Nicolas11x12English
7 жыл бұрын
Dig Into Gaming Hmm... I have Intel and AMD CPUs that are well over 10 years old and none of them have failed yet. One shouldn't worry about lifespan, unless you take things to extreme levels in terms of overclocking.
@건박-o4y
7 жыл бұрын
Intel:only game (4core..) AMD:MULTI(play game while opening internet,skype,etc..)
@captainoblivionthicc1004
6 жыл бұрын
건박 its either playing game or being on google or just buy two monitors
@shift6657
5 жыл бұрын
No
@zeroday5441
5 жыл бұрын
AMD is supposed to be cheaper
@nagatouzumaki4317
5 жыл бұрын
succ
@konstantinos2068
7 жыл бұрын
honestly, the only reason to go with a 7700k is when planning to play at 144hz... but even then you have to delid the thing to keep it under 90 degrees at 5ghz
@colkrakers1987
7 жыл бұрын
sekketsu gr I think the limitation was gpu not the CPU. You wanna play at 144hz you need a gtx 1080 I think.
@konstantinos2068
7 жыл бұрын
you need an equally powerful cpu to push 144hz
@rushingaming8347
7 жыл бұрын
gtx 1080 wont push 144hz on ultra settings even on 1080p lmao, you need like 1080ti sli to get 144hz in every game at 1080p on ultra settings.
@rushingaming8347
7 жыл бұрын
Angus U name one game that's actually cool in the sense and can run 1080p ultra settings at 144hz on gtx1080.
@konstantinos2068
7 жыл бұрын
ultra settings are dumb... a 1070 is plenty for 1080p 144hz when paired with a 7600k @5ghz.. a 1080ti with a 7700k @5ghz should be enough for 1440p 144hz... although keep in mind that the difference in fps between Ultra and High is too big and cant be justified by the minimal visual difference it provides
@chrisbug2647
7 жыл бұрын
I think AMD is Still better cause fps are stable and CPU is making less process than intel...
@Xol_de_Zori
7 жыл бұрын
The FPS is stable on both and Intel has better fps but your right the ryzen is "making less process than intel"
@productions6697
6 жыл бұрын
loothill Kevaz Yess amd is better
@tipsjitu194
4 жыл бұрын
Yess i think you right, the CPU AMD work better , Intel work hard to get un stable fps
@GustaCz
7 жыл бұрын
The problem with games is that they're not optimized to use more than 4 cores, this was already issue back when Vishera CPUs came around and that was in 2011, game devs could potentially use the extra cores to lets say, render stuff offscreen, or or just preloading the next location, I don't see this being problematic as mainstream gaming already uses 16GBs or ram.
@TheTca211
7 жыл бұрын
they are starting to. but keep in mind there is also room for multitasking, as well as productivity.. this cpu sets you up for that. with the new apis they take advantage even more so of the extra cores.. idk ryzen makes the most sense overall to me.
@TheTca211
7 жыл бұрын
looking at ryzen almost completely keep up and use less cpu says alot about its potential for growth when it comes to games being built around it.
@rushingaming8347
7 жыл бұрын
that's what people were saying back in 2010... still waiting for developers to take advantage of more than 4 cores.
@TheTca211
7 жыл бұрын
welll we have tomb raider(not properly implemented but they are working on it) crysis 3 a few others i forgot the name too. and doom.. basically any dx 12 or vulkan game.. also that rts.. thief did it too when it was using mantle... so yea its a slow adoption but the new apis will be adopted(just like all the others have been) and the new apis are designed to be more scaleable.. there are a few dx 11 games that do better with more cores but its only like 2 lol... this isnt like 2010.. amd was way too early on the multi core game.... its definitely the way we should head and are heading(not just games bur apps in general are utilizing it better. also workflows and multitasking on systems is becoming more common) honestly 4 cores is becoming a bottleneck one way or another... so yea i would jump on the 6 and up train before you get stuck on the next equivalent to a dual core =P even if its an old xeon rig.
@poofypoof6508
7 жыл бұрын
Of course it makes more sense if you are upgrading. But there's no reason to blind ourselves with thinking developers will push their games into a platform that doesn't have the broadest available customer base. Most people buying games from steam are running 4 cores or less. If you already have a system that does what you want it to there's no reason to upgrade, then I'd much rather wait until I actually need to. But if you don't have a system, then I would definitely consider buying a 1700 Ryzen CPU.
@AlexA-xw8eq
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your work! This is one of the best comparission on the youtube!
@bonclay5059
7 жыл бұрын
Surely Best All Round Processor is AMD. And that's the real purposes of Computer. IPC is good but in the long run apps are more fashionable in Interface and needs more memory and processing power, thats where the more core counts. And ppl are more likely into dual monitors these days. Intel need to glue their asses together.
@mattiamamusa5599
7 жыл бұрын
Bonclay oh my that last pun...amazing
@dutchdykefinger
7 жыл бұрын
agreed gaming is only a small part in the grand scheme of what computing is about, and even games are finally adapting to core count. which makes intel a very hard sell because it's inferior in almost everything except single threading and compression. not worth 140 bucks more to me, oh wait, the 7700k dropped from 380 to 320 in 2 months... yeah, still not worth 100 bucks extra. :D
@bonclay5059
7 жыл бұрын
Alexander Rewijk AMD surely is the hero of these century by deliver us from the nightmare of locked processor, I3's 2 cores and from I5 +100 - 400mhz lineups.
@Cazanu417
7 жыл бұрын
aint no fanboy but i see more fps on intel wtf?
@mattiamamusa5599
7 жыл бұрын
JaCk MeOff those fps wont matter when for basically the same price you're getting both a gaming and productivity cpu, ryzen is the jack of all trade. Yes, if you're planning to only play games intel is the way to go but for rendering, virtual machines, professional app and streaming is an exelent cpu with good performance in almost every situation.
@euddga9314
7 жыл бұрын
Why many games was tested with dx11? Ryzen have better performance with dx12
@TheUniversalEyes
7 жыл бұрын
Intel is faster in games, but not by much, but when the Intel is running a game and something else interrupts the game, like for example an application running up more cpu usage, the game stutters and or slows down a little. Hence why less cores and faster core performance is not always better, which is why I should have waited another couple months before I bought a 7700k and went with Ryzen.
@MrNomadic76
7 жыл бұрын
I feel you, I've been AMD in most of my prior systems, Athlon 965 Black Edition, 6300 then 8350, and while all good in their day I always looked at Intel and knew they were superior, so in my latest build I hung on to pay a bit more to get i7 7700K, MSI 1070 Quicksilver 8GB OC, 16GB Corsair Vengeance @ 3000mhz. Don't get me wrong, it's a beast system for my needs but I kinda feel guilty as I pretty much dismissed AMD and the new Ryzens due to past experiences and the reputation Intel have always had for superiority. I made a mistake in my opinion as I've always admired AMD's efforts but jumped ship just as they came good. See you in 2 years AMD, keep it up.
@wanderalfa
7 жыл бұрын
you mean H2 2018 to Q1 2019 when 7nm zen2 is scheduled to be released?
@awi5951
7 жыл бұрын
Dude did you miss phenom 2 man those quad cores were so good for single core performance games like world of warcraft and they were dirty cheap. My x4 945 phenom 2 overclocked to 4ghz with auto overclock in bios easy man that little cpu was so great i think i barley paid 100 bucks for it and it ran everything.
@MrNomadic76
7 жыл бұрын
Sorry, yeh I forgot the comma between Athlon and the 965, which was a Phenom II, and it was awesome.
@rich1051414
7 жыл бұрын
I still have a family rig running a phenom II 965, and it performs great, but it doesn't do gaming anymore. It survived well longer than I assumed.
@atharva_A
5 жыл бұрын
All These People In The Comment Box Are Just Broke🤣🤣They Think Intel Using High Cpu Power But Not Giving Performance,So Listen Now The CPU Power Usage Is Not Coming From Intel Rather Than It Is Coming From The Gpu Which Is Using The CPUs Power
@820-t3q
7 жыл бұрын
It is amazing how these guys came back on the market. They really did a good job. Well done AMD!
@Thesinistereyes1
7 жыл бұрын
R7 1700 is only 260 dollars on amazon right now
@laurentiudll
7 жыл бұрын
1700 or 1700x ? whats the difference
@MyLife2020
7 жыл бұрын
Laurențiu Derecichei 1700 lowered clock and coming wraith cooler + 65 W tdp . 1700x higher clock without wraith cooler and 95 W tdp. For me I dont need to AMD stuck cooler because I have NZXT X42 liquid cooler I will buy 1700x which give you more stable overclock and can achieve same performance as Ryzen 1800x.
@darylkeam7670
7 жыл бұрын
Fuck amd their products get to warm.
@MyLife2020
7 жыл бұрын
Daryl keam Actually AMD cpus cooler than intel as I have FX with NZXT X42 liquid water the temp never ever goes over 42C and ideal temp is 14C same thing with gpu r9 270 lowest temp is 31C and maximum temp is 60C . It's depending on many situations like how big case you have and how air flow inside the case.
@darylkeam7670
7 жыл бұрын
Sayed Moh'd Sayed Jawad yeah well i read that sort of things on populair revieuw sites. After 5 october coffee lake launch+benchmarks i choose. Cya
@catfishjenkins9464
7 жыл бұрын
Some ppl might interpret this as intel being the winner in the fps department but what I see is that low CPU usage for the Ryzen chip compared to intel making it the obvious choice for streamers!
@vinesphreels
7 жыл бұрын
Catfish Jenkins you the cpu usage how about the power consumption
@catfishjenkins9464
7 жыл бұрын
Intel has AMD beat on power consumption but not by much. If the purpose is just gaming there are cheaper CPUs out there that can get the job done without bottlenecking a graphics card. When it comes to productivity, and if you consider both CPUs are in the same price point, AMD is the clear winner. You just have way more head room with the 8 cores. even if they are slightly slower and more power hungry. The thing to consider now is that this is the first generation of Zen architecture. It's only going to improve from here on out.
@oxaile4021
7 жыл бұрын
the fact that a quadcore cpu uses nearly as much power as a octacore is just sad for intel.
@HenriXplayer
7 жыл бұрын
Arti c TDP might be lower but power consumption is higher with ryzen at least that's what I have seen from benchmarks.
@vinesphreels
7 жыл бұрын
Oxaile thats how powerful thats 4core is vs to that 8core..
@NopeEhhhh
7 жыл бұрын
AMD Is The Cheapest And Fastest .Better....
@DomsedCZ
5 жыл бұрын
Hoter better faster :3
@tutuuo
5 жыл бұрын
@@DomsedCZ but h100i and it smokes intel by a lot. I prefer intel for CPU and AMD for graphics.
@DomsedCZ
5 жыл бұрын
yes i know this is song for amd fans :D "hoter better faster"
@tutuuo
5 жыл бұрын
@Sam K Yeah
@dhrubaranjandhar8969
5 жыл бұрын
Manik Sen Official ooh you mean better is who gives less fps
@BatuKhanII
7 жыл бұрын
Amd :50% usage Intel: 80% Amd ftw
@BadBoyV1
7 жыл бұрын
50% usage is because games can't use all them cores and won't do for another 10 years, FX boys still waiting for that magic update to use all cores that get the same usage PMSL
@claritoresdiano1021
7 жыл бұрын
clearly amd get lowest TDP with low cpu usage. good bye intel, i going to cheating 😭
@ghostedragon964
7 жыл бұрын
6 core gaming is the future, we have been stuck with Intel's shit 4 core for way too long. Time for an actual change this time
@ThaMorot
7 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that it's running on stock and Intel are famous to stock their k series low. So low that my 6600k on stock refuses to get over 40 degrees passive cooled. 3.5 was the stock and some manage a stable 4.5 without heat issues, only high voltage instability.
@NiohNiohYT
7 жыл бұрын
Idiots... Intel *OBLITERATED* Ryzen in games, regardless of opinions. And higher usage of Intel is cos half cores on AMD were never used at all by the game, nor they will be in near future.
@Kniazz
7 жыл бұрын
Using red font would be better for overlay. Can't see yellow numbers in the bright white sky in games.
@AyedYoutube
7 жыл бұрын
Using red font is hell to read when you're in the dark parts in-game
@Eli9A
7 жыл бұрын
what i notice was that AMD had slightly lower fps but it was using between 20-30% percent less of cpu power then intel which means the games were not properly optimized or not optimized for ryzen CPU
@mikepkos
7 жыл бұрын
Both CPUs are great!!!
@bbsnarky7098
6 жыл бұрын
Intel has better frame rates for gaming. AMD wins at multi-tasking, editing & live-streaming for better CPU efficiency. Once you get to over 80 FPS, you really can't notice the difference - even with the average difference of 28 FPS when playing Grand Theft Auto V, you still can't notice the difference... therefore AMD wins!
@thedamntrain5481
6 жыл бұрын
With with 3 fps...
@faboxtech
5 жыл бұрын
@@thedamntrain5481 not to offend but1st amd has best processors, 2nd amd processors is good for gaming and for edition , intel is only for gaming, 3rd amd processors have more cores and more threads with a low price and finally intel processors heat up, and amd has like 4 more fps than intel and ryzen is more faster
@antony9557
5 жыл бұрын
@@faboxtech amd is always best value for performance, finally someone who agrees.
@wanderalfa
7 жыл бұрын
jesus those cpu usage numbers are not a good sign for the intel longevity even if it is slightly faster.
@wanderalfa
7 жыл бұрын
Ritchie the AMD chip is always 15 to 25% lower usage on average it indicates that the intel chip will probably it cpu bottleneck first.
@ritchiedrama7
7 жыл бұрын
You don't know shit, stop talking.
@Frandelicious1337
7 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Intel will bottleneck pretty soon in newer games, specially ones that make use of more cores.
@ritchiedrama7
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I mean, 40% usage on an i7-7700K in an intensive CPU game (BF1), so much bottleneck manyw0w.
@Frandelicious1337
7 жыл бұрын
compared to ryzen 25%, it will botteneck much sooner.
@vigneshkudtarkar7384
7 жыл бұрын
AMD fanforever 💜 Bcoz it's makes technology affordable
@BLOODYHACKER
6 жыл бұрын
20% cheaper for 20% lesser performance?
@ripaccount-n2x
5 жыл бұрын
@@BLOODYHACKER you a dumbass
@bruhbruh4311
5 жыл бұрын
@@BLOODYHACKER amd usage is less then intel so thats why fps is lower then intel.
@kumarlav1430
4 жыл бұрын
How much AMD A9 proceser heat . Heat Like A4 (I have Used A4 .Heat like winter Heater ) or very low heat in Movies Internet Music Photo editing and Video editing..... Please Tell me which Amd processer dont heat too much. I am UsiNg Hp Intel Pentium Quad core prosessor (5 years old now) Still very very less heat but i want new one. Budget Range about 21000 ₹ (Sorry for Bad English )
@badass6300
7 жыл бұрын
Great review pretty much equal, even though the i7 7700k is clocked 25% higher. It would be much more interesting if you did a R5 1500x vs i7 7700k, though I believe you had the cut down 8MB L3 cache R5 1400 which lowers performance per clock by 7-15% in comparison to the 1500x.
@Nicolas11x12English
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your support! And yes, I only had the R5 1400. I'd love to test the 1500X, but right now I need to focus on the upcoming Ryzen 3 launch. Also I need to sell my AMD RX 550 and NVIDIA GT 1030 GPUs in order to get some money back in. Spent way too much the last couple of months. Haha! :P
@badass6300
7 жыл бұрын
Ryzen 3 is going to be cool, I would suggest to get the cheaper model if you are buying it youself as in this case the cache and everything, except the clock speeds will be identical, but you will save 20-25 euro and since the process node is the limiting factor of Ryzen and NOT temperatures when overclocking, you can easily simulate the higher clocked and both should overclock equally as high. :)
@Nicolas11x12English
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed. You're right. I'm planning on buying the cheaper model. :)
@Nicolas11x12English
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, I will be selling my Ryzen 3 CPU at a lowered price. If you live in Europe I can sell you that one once I'm done with testing. Also, should you have any interest in the Ryzen 5 1400, that one is still up for sale. However, you can have it for 129 Euros instead of 159 Euros (new). :)
@badass6300
7 жыл бұрын
+MzNToS Good choice, as long as it gets the job done. Ryzen runs cool with the stock coolers, so it will last a long time. :) Get the 100-110$ Ryzen 3, it will be the same as the more expensive 125-135$ model, just lower clocked and if you are choosing a quad core for a server, that means that it will be plenty.
@1Enrique9
7 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, congratulations!
@xishanali
7 жыл бұрын
and my laptop even drops frames to play this video lol
@Nicolas11x12English
7 жыл бұрын
Lol
@doodlidu
7 жыл бұрын
Very nice Video. You can notice, that some games do support 8 cores much better (look at CPU usage). Those games dont have that big of a gap in FPS. Other games only seem to use 4 cores (much lower CPU usage on Ryzen) with a bigger FPS difference.
@doublesnake18
7 жыл бұрын
Anyone use PC just for gaming? I don't think so... You will notice that AMD is much better when it's come in over all and 24/7 working on that PC...
@lukass.6609
7 жыл бұрын
I do pretty much i only game and for some browsing an i7 4770 is totally ovetkill an Pentium souls be the same dir Browsing 😂😂😂
@anjie_p17
6 жыл бұрын
Intel For Game, And Amd For Editing videos
@channe_ga_guna
6 жыл бұрын
Indo bro
@Hitsuku
6 жыл бұрын
Iky 240 bru India
@channe_ga_guna
6 жыл бұрын
Dean Tisnam what you say dude
@Hitsuku
6 жыл бұрын
Iky 240 indigo
@channe_ga_guna
6 жыл бұрын
Dean Tisnam i realy dont enderstan you speak.
@omegasrk
5 жыл бұрын
Intel CPU usage is Higher than AmD And still its not giving so higher FPS than AmD so the winner is AMD make video AMD vs Navida
@indiangamerarnadeep6544
5 жыл бұрын
It's Nvidia dude
@maorshapira1578
4 жыл бұрын
Nvidia forever!
@maorshapira1578
4 жыл бұрын
Indian Gamer Arnadeep lol
@MrCairngorm
7 жыл бұрын
Great comparison!
@definitelynotadam
7 жыл бұрын
With the recent popularisation of multicore CPUs on PC and consoles I would honestly not buy 7700k today. Yes it offers better performance now if you just game, but its clear this CPU is close of becoming a bottleneck for future titles with its limited core and thread numbers. If you do anything except gaming or just want to be slightly more future proof a 6 core or 8 core are good choices. Ryzen will also force Intel to stop ripping of customers and charging 1k per 8 core CPU. 7800x/7820x with their flaws (Intel clearly rushed release there in response to Ryzen) are great examples of that.
@anis1630
6 жыл бұрын
There is no game who use more than 4 core man ;)
@anis1630
6 жыл бұрын
So technically if u just wanna play it's much better to get a 7700k
@NiazHossain
6 жыл бұрын
I am agreed with anis1630 .
@m.m6552
6 жыл бұрын
very nice and helpful video keep it up!!!
@jasongooden917
6 жыл бұрын
how to get to Summit Ridge? Just cross the Kaby Lake
@Nicolas11x12English
6 жыл бұрын
That's gold!
@pisangijo419
7 жыл бұрын
That 5 minutes difference on rendering video will save your life on tight deadlines.
@kapilvictor
6 жыл бұрын
i think the guy playing on AMD is a better gamer
@Nicolas11x12English
6 жыл бұрын
Oh crap! I was the one playing on the Intel system. :( LOL!
@kapilvictor
6 жыл бұрын
:)
@kapilvictor
6 жыл бұрын
i figured it ..while u guys were riding horse in witcher 3 ...... i guess
@Nicolas11x12English
6 жыл бұрын
Good catch! I'm actually really a pretty bad gamer. Probably because I very rarely have time to game. Haha! :D
@kapilvictor
6 жыл бұрын
that's a valid point...and accepted
@tipsjitu194
4 жыл бұрын
I love that review... You are best... Thanks for your video, can i recomended this video in my channel, with your link in recomended videos?
@josephlai5336
5 жыл бұрын
Sir, next time use Radeon for the Ryzen for comparison.. AMD combo..
@SababAlSahaba
7 жыл бұрын
gameplay is not a fair comparison because you face different environment in each game depends on speed and events happening in the game. The clearest comparison is the rendering and the video play of the trailers which has the same settings in each device
@Nicolas11x12English
7 жыл бұрын
Check out the new, updated version featuring the Intel i7-8700K Coffee Lake CPU here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/yISItHqDboaklKA
@patelvidhu4840
6 жыл бұрын
Intel is bigger brand and I prefer it.
@Dayfitnl
6 жыл бұрын
yeah especially after the whole controversial kernel leak bug, that fucks up intel CPU
@jandejesus5686
6 жыл бұрын
hi can you gift me one of them today is my birthday i wish you gift one of them. thank you +Nicolas11x12 English
@nex0255
6 жыл бұрын
Nicolas11x12 English Intel Kaby Lake = Ryzen Threadripper, not 7...
@Xtrendence
7 жыл бұрын
Ryzen fucking shreds everything I've thrown at it. I can't even say a single bad thing about it. I am so glad I went with the 1700 instead of Intel 7700K. My 1700 is overclocked to the performance of a 1700X.
@metalmarx123
7 жыл бұрын
Well ryzen reminds me of the 2500k 5years ago then for 250bucks you had a super cpu now it is still a super cpu but 5years later amd steps up with software and efficiency and gives you now the best performance for the price while still having headroom for more optimisation in a short period of time. Intel became victim of there own abuse of kapitalism wich is for us a very good thing:Dwhen my 2500k stops my system has a welcome home place for a ryzen 7 combo ;) and later on a new gpu perhaps:)
@saurabhs123133
7 жыл бұрын
Hold on for the second gen Ryzen if you can. Those will have better optimizations. 2500k was some CPU though. Even my friend still rocks one.
@88Enon
7 жыл бұрын
is not fx vs 2500k anymore , this time 2 and 4 cores are dead.... my e5470 already stutter in games that my 8120 with 5-15 lower fps is not , this time is for good!
@metalmarx123
7 жыл бұрын
really? everything here works fine and as expected and no hell here ;)
@HenriXplayer
7 жыл бұрын
Rusu .Alin And then you realise that the best performing gaming cpu is 4-core.
@EternalEmpr3ss
6 жыл бұрын
Intel: Better performance, High CPU Usage AMD: Decent Performance, Medium CPU Usage I think its balanced
@saroksts
7 жыл бұрын
Nice to know that i can buy 2 these for one Intel price :)
@captainoblivionthicc1004
6 жыл бұрын
saroksts just find a good website dont but your shit from amazon i got an i7 for just the same prize as an ryzen 5 no joke
@rullyharto3917
6 жыл бұрын
Milan van der Vliet I'm pretty sure that's an old processor.
@captainoblivionthicc1004
6 жыл бұрын
Rully Harto no its a i7 8700k
@hitmanv4team
7 жыл бұрын
probably the best Comparison in YT
@MrDesillu
7 жыл бұрын
Reaction from Intel since Ryzen is out, more cores, pentium is becoming the new i3 (2cores 4 threads), the new i3 get 4cores. Good job AMD.
@akusemkhal
6 жыл бұрын
Here's a conclusion,Intel is good for gaming,while AMD is good for rendering
@bkavpro10
7 жыл бұрын
Intel! We need more core and lower price! Thanks AMD for sent that message to Intel!
@sesshomaru2005
7 жыл бұрын
Nice test even you put wattage. Keep up the good work
@mariodrv
7 жыл бұрын
Get the R5 1600 or 1700 they are the best allround cpus you can get, plus they come with a good cooler that will let you get them up to 3.8-3.9GHz.
@NollieFlipX
7 жыл бұрын
Quite interesting comparison! Great job. I am wondering why Ryzen had such a low CPU usage, I wish we had the GPU usage % data as well for a better comparison. If I were to guess it, there are still some driver tweaking left to be done or maybe some programs or games were not optimized for that processor's instructions. But still that's just a guess. Again, awesome work.
@jasonlindquistmedia
7 жыл бұрын
nice, love my 1700 @ 3.8ghz whats the max temp you get with that cryorig a40 I got same one.
@pineapledracula2273
7 жыл бұрын
jason lindquist i have r7 too can you tell me your vcore and how to oc it on b350 strix board bios
@captainoblivionthicc1004
6 жыл бұрын
Lol i have i5 4.6ghz
@premierphysicmetrologie53
6 жыл бұрын
Let's the battle begin!
@crispy-k
7 жыл бұрын
Wait, wait! you have to make the benchmarks FAIR ! Like intel does their benchmarks! Downclock the intel to match the AMD clock then do the benchmark. That is how intel does it and that is the right way ! XD Can't wait to get my DIY glue together CPU kit from AMD ;)
@jonathanquesada6586
7 жыл бұрын
Crispy K and disable the extra cores AMD have
@Katjajaja
7 жыл бұрын
Both of these CPUs should be able to use 100% of any GPU on the market ATM, and in most cases the GPU is the determining factor for your in game framerates. So this isn't a competition for AVG framerates because those are variable, but rather a competition for CPU load while playing these games. In that case the Rysen is the clear victor. That's not to say that the intel is worse at playing games, honestly either of these PCs can play any game on the market no problem. It's just that the Ryzen has more headroom for multitasking and future proofing.
@Nicolas11x12English
6 жыл бұрын
Check out my new INTEL VS AMD 2018 video! kzitem.info/news/bejne/pqeYvn-Ba551imU
@MiracleVVS
6 жыл бұрын
Nicolas11x12 English so did you upload this video on amd or intel
@Githrog
6 жыл бұрын
what everyone is missing is the fact that yes intel cpu's are usually more expensive but that's an 8 core 16 thread processor that is on par or slightly under par on gaming and just slightly over par on multitasking and editing against a 4 core 8 thread processor. It's has twice as many cores and threads and it's only slightly better in certain situations and still under par in other aspects and everyone is blown away? Wtf? Intel cpu's are expensive for a reason. Comparing an 8 core to a 4 core and having such similar results should not be praised. I wanna see a quad core 8 thread AMD cpu matching the performance of the 7700k, then I'll be impressed.
@JinuMathers
7 жыл бұрын
If you want less power consumption, go with R7 1700.
@captainoblivionthicc1004
6 жыл бұрын
Jinu Mathers If you want better framerate and overall a faster cpu go for INTEL
@lupan37
6 жыл бұрын
Milan van der Vliet yeah go ahead and spread more shit around intel fanboy
@captainoblivionthicc1004
6 жыл бұрын
wolfieg intel is better its just the price every famous gamer uses intel
@faboxtech
5 жыл бұрын
@@captainoblivionthicc1004 not to offend but1st amd has best processors, 2nd amd processors is good for gaming and for edition , intel is only for gaming, 3rd amd processors have more cores and more threads with a low price and finally intel processors heat up, and amd has like 4 more fps than intel and ryzen is more faster
@TracerX
6 жыл бұрын
What you learned from this is that you buy Intel for gaming or buy AMD for working.
@ankitjangid4208
7 жыл бұрын
loook at price to performance ratio
@car1m310
7 жыл бұрын
If you also show GPU load of the Ryzen PC with the same setup of videotaping the game running on the monitor like this without cutting and letting it run continuously would be helpful. In my experience when the random stutter occurs, the GPU load would drop to 0% or something like that.
@cowboy9073
6 жыл бұрын
AMD is best 😎😎😎
@WilliamVG
6 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Ryzen+ in March :)
@diegorimeras1734
7 жыл бұрын
€ 344 vs € 419, that's € 75 less, 17.8% of the AMD value. However if you compare i7-7820x vs Ryzen 1800x, that's 640 € vs 529, 111 more, just 17,34% of the Intel value. My conclusion is that Ryzen is interesting for performance ratio price in the current midrange, and Intel is more recommended in the high range,
@obiesario6915
7 жыл бұрын
Very nice comparison
@ryandavidafable8845
7 жыл бұрын
Ryzen: hhhhmmm! Child's play. Intel: Maximum effort.. Wow!! at 20-50% CPU usage it can keep up with Intel and though Crysis 3 is almost 4years old it's still a beast of a game Ryzen@60% and Intel@86% CPU usage.. Impressive!!
@akaMerilairon
7 жыл бұрын
and even tho crysis 3 is using more cores on the amd cpu its utilization is still really low compared to the intel. good job amd.. finally. :)
@Cafe_TTV
7 жыл бұрын
Remember, stock clocks favour the Ryzen system as they don't overclock as dramatically.
@IDangerWesley
6 жыл бұрын
135 fps on gta v? Nice br
@Dramatello
6 жыл бұрын
Got my 1500x yesterday, waiting for it to arrive. First time ever trying AMD over Intel (was on a budget). Hope it won't bottleneck my GTX1070
@LogitechXibanga
7 жыл бұрын
so an AMD is the best option ?
@nabahznznznsn3645
3 жыл бұрын
No is intel
@LogitechXibanga
3 жыл бұрын
@@nabahznznznsn3645 why you say that?
@nabahznznznsn3645
3 жыл бұрын
@@LogitechXibanga because my CPU is intel
@LogitechXibanga
3 жыл бұрын
@@nabahznznznsn3645 well that dont make it better, if you see the comparison the AMD has a little bit less FPS's but it only uses 22% of cpu while intel was using 48% cpu to give an extra 7 FPS's wich to me it seems that on the AMD case the GPU was the one choking the perfermance
@nabahznznznsn3645
3 жыл бұрын
@@LogitechXibanga im going to buy this cpu
@TweakTechNow
7 жыл бұрын
Quantum computer walks in. Says: What are you guys arguing about?
@glhf5922
7 жыл бұрын
Tldr. No reason to get kaby lake.
@RinoAP
7 жыл бұрын
ryzen 3 ftw
@captainoblivionthicc1004
6 жыл бұрын
GL HF COFFEE LAKE
@paveljelinek772
7 жыл бұрын
For gaming its always best to turn off that SMT.. And for gaming its better to go with ryzen since it showed the same performance with lower CPU usage..
@itsmemukund1097
4 жыл бұрын
AMD in 2020- yeah laugh at me now!
@w7b9
3 жыл бұрын
Intel is like Apple and amd is samsung
@stargazer162
7 жыл бұрын
AMD was truly impressed me with Ryzen. I used to always pick Intel except a Athlon x4 620 that I'm still using today. That Athlon is very outdated even when OC at 3.25Ghz and is bottlenecking my GPU so I was thinking about building a new PC with a i5, but after seeing what Ryzen is capable of I'm definitively going with AMD again.
@chinesischekunst5392
7 жыл бұрын
Tank god i choosed ryzen :D
@anjavukelic6903
6 жыл бұрын
noob
@bobplanderlinde329
6 жыл бұрын
noob
@3kbschannel288
6 жыл бұрын
I seriously hate biased people in the comments. They form their opinions based on what they are already fans of and not what they may recognize as better. That's a problem.
@Darrelplays
5 жыл бұрын
Intel is aiming for the quality an reliability " not performance.
@ahsheigjeej873
5 жыл бұрын
don't kid yourself. it's aiming for your money. lots of it. if you have any, that is. If you can buy the same computing power at half the price, any smart person should go for it. it's why AMD is trumping intel right now in the enthusiast market. check out gamer's nexus report.
@ahsheigjeej873
5 жыл бұрын
btw, i both have intel and AMD and I've never had any quality nor reliability issues with AMD. you sound like a fanboy. Not saying go buy AMD. I'm saying go buy the processor that offers the best value. just right now, it's clearly AMD.
@aceblunttalk1101
6 жыл бұрын
great video. It answered my questions that I had for these two products Intel vs AMD and from where I sit, the graphics appear the same but performance seems to be better in the AMD in addition to the CPU consumption appearing to be much more efficient in the AMD.
@radioactivejaphistoryfakej3991
7 жыл бұрын
Amd much better
@devante4489
7 жыл бұрын
This is isn't an equal comparison. You are comparing a 4 core with an 8 Core processor.
@pearlemerald5922
5 жыл бұрын
4-5 fps for 150-200$ hmmmmm... Don't buy intel
@pearlemerald5922
5 жыл бұрын
@legendary/Gaming Legendaries !! intel core i7-9700k is 409$ but ryzen 7 2700x is 279$. 409-279=130$ *do math*
@WorldWeightliftingSports
6 жыл бұрын
I bought Ryzen since 90% of my time is focus on working like editing, rendering etc. and the others for casual gaming. The Ryzen is not really that bad for gaming at all. Just want to have the best of both worlds.
@cooldude2245
6 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I like the music.
@Supreme_Court.
7 жыл бұрын
I just bought a new PC with a 7700k, and while I kind of wish I had got a 1700x instead, I don't think I need to worry about it right now. I don't render videos or run a bunch of programs while I'm gaming, so I'm not going to be worrying about upgrading for probably a year or two or until games start becoming more dependent on multi-core CPU power. If you're strictly a gamer, you'll be fine with a 4 core CPU for the time being, but think about upgrading someday.
@SoftExo
7 жыл бұрын
You can render videos and run a bunch of programs while you play. I do that on a 6600k @ 4.5ghz, so im sure you can do it on a 7700K, just it takes like 20 seconds longer to render that 4k video, who cares, unless you're doing it all day, day in and day out, and streaming works fine. Before Ryzen everyone streamed in i5 and i7s and they were fine. I care more about 5 10 or 15 extra fps in games, and i certainly care more about playing GTAV Online with 40 more fps than i would with a Ryzen. Absolutely. Testing also suggests that having both parts OCed makes the gaming gap grow and the production difference get reduced, since the 1700 averages 10% OCs, while both 7600 and 7700Ks pull around 20% OCs and can hit, perhaps cross 5 Ghz. Theres nothing to upgrade to if you're using 6700k or 7700k unless youre a professional and need the higher productivity rate for work.
@Supreme_Court.
7 жыл бұрын
I know that, that's why I'm not planning on upgrading right now. I just have a feeling that games will start becoming much more CPU intensive and taking advantage of more cores, which is why I might upgrade in a year or two. Not necessarily to a 1700x though, as it wouldn't be worth it and there will be better CPUs out then, most likely even some Intel cards with 6 or 8 cores.
@SoftExo
7 жыл бұрын
Thats something we will have to see. So far, nothing is indicating that, new releases are all behaving as usual, and can run even on the modest 65$ G4560, sometimes onpar with the 7700K, so the requirements don't seem to be growing at any visible rate. Even BF1, one of the most demanding games and multithreaded appeaser, sees the 7600K beat a 1600X. Plus, same predictions were made 5 years ago when amd released the FX series, where every other fanboy would tell you "see you in 12 months when games require more cores than you even have". Its 2017 and the FX series never got to use them, they're relics nowadays. Ryzen are better than FX were, but a purpose for this many cores/threads still needs to appear.
@Fuck_Off00
7 жыл бұрын
The AMD chip always has a lower load than the intel chip but the intel chip has a bit better fps. I prefer the chip not be under a lot of load and the AMD chip seems to handle that very well
@gyandeepgogu5540
7 жыл бұрын
amd is the best yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaa
@endredankay2555
6 жыл бұрын
More precise title needed; Intel 7700k vs AMD Ryzen 1700x
@gamerzofheaven8846
6 жыл бұрын
#AMDGAMERFOREVER!!! Amd is the bestttestt!!!
@ammaryaser2724
6 жыл бұрын
GAMERZ OF HEAVEN no its not
@ammaryaser2724
6 жыл бұрын
GAMERZ OF HEAVEN sorry yes it is ijust found that AMD is bettr than all of it lol
@gamerzofheaven8846
6 жыл бұрын
ammar yaser haha ur saying that nvidia is better ?? 😂😂in front of a gamer 😂 everyone knows it bro
@ammaryaser2724
6 жыл бұрын
GAMERZ OF HEAVEN just saying 😂👌
@ammaryaser2724
6 жыл бұрын
GAMERZ OF HEAVEN by the way good work man keep up
@yd3334
7 жыл бұрын
Can you please make a video exactly like this,where you comapare the 1700 and the 7700k? Great video Btw :)
@zeroammunition5906
7 жыл бұрын
#Intel4gaming
@thedamntrain5481
6 жыл бұрын
It wins with 3 fps but you lose the multi tasking the rendering The cpu useage EVERYTHING ELSE for 3 fps?
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