In school, I was taught that the USA was founded on freedom. That is freedom even if it compromises safety. The famous quote ,"Give me liberty, or give me death" comes to mind. Personal, I would rather live in a free nation, than live in a safe one.
@imjoeking_
9 жыл бұрын
ZXcross Finaly, someone gets it!
@kablooie5446
8 жыл бұрын
+ZXcross Oxymoron: No one can live in a safe one. Some choke down the aspartame of safe life. I like sugar, real and bad for me. Duality of Man's alignment is His natural state, no different than organ function, to whit; regulation of one's own good/bad output denies the benefits of the exercise, creating an imbalance ideal for runaway excess, sans even the ability to recognize it and/or its warning signs. We cannot allow any authority to regulate freedom of choice, nor let slip the frightened ignorant of our own to piece it out to the blind, consistent pressure aimed at complete,fictional control by the self superior tendencies of enforcement offices, both tendencies and pressure being the norm of the job, " place adult human here". Duality, them, us. That's that real sugar taste of it. My right hand helps old ladies across streets, and rubs out a mighty fine one with precision like a loved Japanese engine. Sometimes, it even uses water and soap between (give or take) my old lady rubbing sessions! Fear is their most reliable ally. Rub ya'll some fuckin old ass ladies! Yes especially while being chased. Be assured: there is a gold nugget of understanding in that expedition that will serve you and society FAR better than another twist on the regulatory crank in the house. Or ya know, maybe not. Find out, fuck ANYONE who feels compelled to relieve us and ours of the choice. And now, a porn break. Love me them internets. posts are for reading, less so writing, and it's pure rhetoric too.Proof NO version of the pull out method prevents someone getting the Jernkk. Gedggie out!
@Imissthefuhrer
7 жыл бұрын
ZXcross bingo! Can't stand the whole nanny state phenomenon, like in ca or my.
@escobarr8818
5 жыл бұрын
That's just it. You are not as free as you think. A safe nation IS the ONLY free one.
@twl148
4 жыл бұрын
underated comment
@nulbyte
10 жыл бұрын
An interesting discussion about Tor and Freenet. I have to call out the obvious, though: The speaker doesn't seem to understand Tor to the extent that he claims, and after decrying Tor, in part, because of its speed, he touts Freenet above it while acknowledging its even slower speed. Both have their uses, but this video makes an error in an attempt to trash Tor. The central tenant used to decry Tor was that the exit node would know the origin's address. This is not true, unless the exit node just happens to have all the encryption keys used along the entire route. The origin's address is encrypted by the first hop, so it is only known to the origin and the first hop. That encrypted data along with the first hop's address is then encrypted by the next hop, and so on and so forth. The exit node receives all this mess, plucking out the original data to pass along to the destination. Thus, the exit node can only determine three things: 1) the original data to transmit, 2) the address of the n-1 peer, and 3) the address of the destination. This is why TLS should be used even with Tor: to establish an encrypted channel end-to-end that prevents the exit node from obtaining the original payload in the clear. The most likely weakness of Tor has nothing to do with Tor itself. Protocols can include origin addresses, users might not enforce end-to-end encryption, users might inadvertantly transmit revealing data, and plenty more. Tor itself is fine, The weaknesses are everything else, including (especially) the user.
@ravanadevadas3770
5 жыл бұрын
if the exit node knew the address of the destination doesnt that blow my cover? im just confused i know this comment is 5 years old but im still curious.
@williamstyz5509
4 жыл бұрын
I thought that the exit node only knew one of the IP addresses either your or the website you want to visit and the beginning node knows the other
@MrAliveanddying
10 жыл бұрын
They created the internet. You jumped in. You gave you information willingly. You signed the agreement. To each digital license to take your personal information (like Facebook for example. ) at their will. Happy birthday
@s0kulite
2 жыл бұрын
Well… private agencies collect data without the consent of users.
@KenSherman
Жыл бұрын
Can't believe this video is a decade old. Still looks as fresh as this year. And possibly is still relevant.
@backlashstudios6088
10 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I was wondering if I should go with Tor or Freenet and this has made it very clear. Also Bob your hairstyle looks cool and the jacket helps.
@anthcesana
11 жыл бұрын
I love you guys. You are so awake and in tune with what's happening. It's awesome to see cool dudes spreading the word and looking after people who may not be as knowledgeable/bothered to learn.
@PyroChimp75
9 жыл бұрын
11:25 - This comes down to the frog in the boiling water analogy; if you place a frog in a hot pan of boiling water it'll jump straight out - put the frog in a pan of cold water, heat the the water slowly till boiling and he frog will slowly die...
@noneofyourbusiness153
9 жыл бұрын
+PyroChimp75 This is actually incorrect. The frogs in this experiments were lobotomised, basically had their brains physically scrambled and cut up. Healthy frogs would still jump out when it gets hot, no matter how slowly you heat it up.
@SporeTuberTV
11 жыл бұрын
I totally agree Logan Please do a talk segment about Shodan.
@lanceseidman
11 жыл бұрын
Good job. FYI: I use a Raspberry Pi for all data. I also use cheap VPS Hosting ans SSH Tunnel & use PuTTY to host the connection letting me run all my traffic via the VPS. I have the video on TechMeShow if interested.
@xXXinfonlightXXx
9 жыл бұрын
You guyz earned a customer with this one. Gonna buy some gear to help the show and rep the Syndicate!
@MrPatriot1776
11 жыл бұрын
you can use google like normal, tor uses the interface of firefox, it just routes your traffic through a bunch of proxies.
@Atrazeal
11 жыл бұрын
Yeah man, I've only subscribed to a 4 or 5 things on youtube since 2006, This is one of them.
@frozenjava
11 жыл бұрын
Using tor and anonymous proxies has always been said to keep you anonymous on the internet. But if you don't know who is hosting the server that you are routing everything through you could be putting your self into the middle of a man in the middle attack. What I would recommend doing is buy a prepaid visa credit card (with cash) and use it to buy a server out in the cloud. This way there is no name tied to it. Then run a squid proxy or ssh tunnel safely, assuming the VPS host isnt big brother.
@alanraya7730
7 жыл бұрын
Great video, explained from all angles like you said.
@Deivs65
11 жыл бұрын
really great video. We need more people to see this. They should not touch our privacy. Mass have to show some resistance.
@terry5008
5 жыл бұрын
If you want to use a coffee shop's internet connection for anonymity, there's no reason to actually go into the shop. Just stay outside in your car and use a directional high gain antenna pointed at the shop. Should work fine through your window glass as long as your windows aren't coated with any metalized film.
@NedTheDread
11 жыл бұрын
It's not a "fake" IP, it's the IP of the TOR exit node you leave the TOR network with, big difference... You can still be caught from traffic analysis if the exit node you come out of is logging all the traffic and the authorities get a hold of it (they could own the exit node). It is hard and unlikely you will get caught, but it is definitely possible. Traffic to and from .onion websites/services run completely inside the TOR network and are much more secure, you are right about that!
@Masterjayrock
11 жыл бұрын
I learn something new every time I watch your videos.
@Iron8Jack9
11 жыл бұрын
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Ben Franklin
@aardvocadoful
11 жыл бұрын
I'm confused, who is this for? I understand the privacy part but this sounds like gold for villains.
@isaackarjala7916
11 жыл бұрын
Freenets security is two fold. Firtly, when you request a resource from a neighboring node there is no way for them or an easedropper to tell if you are requesting the src for yourself or merely forwarding along the request for someone else. Conneting to strangers does nothing to comprimise this part of the security. The other part only works in F2F mode, and that is that F2F traffic is indistinguishable from VPN traffic.
@Smokejumper92
11 жыл бұрын
I had to pause and just laugh off the horrible 'torrable' joke, well done done Logan
@Kiramitsuoka
11 жыл бұрын
Nice video but what about I2P? Would be great if you'd cover it too.
@ronaldebberts4757
11 жыл бұрын
AAA+ - Standing strong for privacy but to old to be tech savvy so thanks for this video... A-wake, A-ware, A-lert!
@TheSaadtut
11 жыл бұрын
nice cup holder ive always wondered what card it war
@TerraFiying
11 жыл бұрын
tor is one of the best programs ive examined. however nothing will truly keep u in the clear, were not the govt and we dont have their resources. things like timing ataks and window mapping, combined with the right surveillance at each end of the network can be enuf to find and link you with your activity inside. just keep it in mind when ur pushing/pulling data anywhere outside your own network.
@DrewbadourP
11 жыл бұрын
They are talking about the description on their website, not KZitem.
@Unsensitive
11 жыл бұрын
Yellow cake isn't very tasty. Consumption may lead to: nausea, vomiting, hair loss, and cancer.
@JacobP81
2 жыл бұрын
Just running an exit node does not give you the IP address of the people visiting web sites. The IP addresses are encrypted in layer.
@coolciaran69
11 жыл бұрын
I need the router hack video as a way to educate myself and find ways to keep my horrible dodgy neighbours of my WLAN
@drawingkid1313
11 жыл бұрын
You have a very good point.
@banksy12195
11 жыл бұрын
What are you trying to say about UDP and TCP? Both are just ways of sending things from one IP to another. You can see the IP address that each came from no matter what protocol it is sent through, as it still goes through the internet, and each packet contains the source information and destination. As far as the VPN, it really just depends on the provider. Some don't keep logs, some do. If they do, you can still be screwed.
@TekWolfe
11 жыл бұрын
Do you have any preference between the NZXT Phantom or Bitfenix Prodigy. I see both in the shot and was looking at both cases. Any suggestions?
@isaackarjala7916
11 жыл бұрын
As for Tor, Tor is not nearly as secure as Freenet, for one Directory Requests are (as of the last I checked) sent in the clear (albeit signed) and hence can identify you as a tor user to an easedropper. Otherwise using Tor to surf the open web definately isn't stupid proof, it is safer engaging in the exact same behavior either through a single-hop proxy/VPN or through your ISP. Connecting to a offshore VPN through Tor and paid for with BTC is pretty close to bullet proof.
@KingKhain
11 жыл бұрын
Do one on Retroshare and Jitsi (but wait for version 2.0, which should be out soon). Also the Retroshare guys I think are preparing some big stuff for February, so might want to wait a bit until you do one on both.
@L1b3rta
11 жыл бұрын
Where's the link to Bruce Scheier's paper they said they would link to?
@jasonwupilly1997
11 жыл бұрын
it just doesn't store any data on the COMPUTER, which isn't safe considering any server your data goes through still knows everything you're doing
@TheMrMorphling
11 жыл бұрын
Just connect to any open Wifi in your neighborhood (although this might be considered illegal in some countries). There really is no other way. I did this years back for few weeks when I moved and my ISP took unreasonably long to connect me up, if you are going to do it be nice about it and don't torrent illegal stuff or otherwise abuse their connection.
@ackables
11 жыл бұрын
that is actually a good idea. Freenet reminds me of what kim.com was trying to do where megaupload is on many servers not just one or a couple. Actually freenet seems a lot like megaupload's new plan. hmmm...
@kpriess
11 жыл бұрын
You have to worry, as right/wrong is a matter of perspective, the perspective of whoever is accusing you..
@lokizfenrir
11 жыл бұрын
You made an almost correct statement...however tracert does NOT show the COMPLETE route from origin to destination. It's just like a marco-polo game where each hop node can only "polo" once, however some nodes en-route play coy and doesn't polo to your marco, hence those * returned in tracert.... and secondly as you stated routes are not constant they change... freenet, less secure... the more encrypted a package the more attention it draws... online = internet (privacy is a placebo)
@zsakker
11 жыл бұрын
Logan and other techies, is it normal that im kinda a nerd, but when you start talking about rrd or something and stuff like that, i have just no idea what you are talking about or then i just get 1/2 of it? -zsakker
@Icureditwithmybrain
11 жыл бұрын
Yes, and his name is Logan.
@StringOgre
11 жыл бұрын
Well... logan should say one thing... what is the usage of tor and what of freenet. Freenet has nothing to do with commercial surface internet. Tor if used correctly can improve your privacy on this "surface net browsing" (amongst others of course). I would appreciate if Logan linked a few videos with jacob appelbaum saying things about tor more deeply than here in tek.
@JacobManson
11 жыл бұрын
most of the weaknesses of for tor claimed in this video are not shortcomings of tor. in many ways tor is in fact superior than freenet in that it allows for websites to have more traditional websites behind a so called "hidden service". a hidden service is a special tor website or service only accessible inside the tor network, therefor there is no exit node required. overall, a fairly half assed video that i am surprised they uploaded.
@NER124
11 жыл бұрын
Just a question, but with this explanation would it be safe to assume that using Tor is a good solution from remaining anonymous for anything outside of the US government? If we're not breaking the law but still want to remain anonymous, Tor would still be a solid solution, right?
@davewhool3091
7 жыл бұрын
Great info on Tor and the freenet...tks.
@JustLookA7
8 жыл бұрын
Interesting content in this channel. I heard of Freenet some time ago, never tried it. I'll keep watching your videos. Subscribed :)
@qazmko22
11 жыл бұрын
What about the new Pirates DL Browser Promoted by "The Pirates Bay" Which i think uses TOR I have read about?
@filip8600
11 жыл бұрын
A postcard would be a better metaphor than the letter, everybody can read what's in the letter...
@jgiubardo
11 жыл бұрын
You forgot CJDNS, you can even run freenet ontop of cjdns
@rnci
11 жыл бұрын
Need more uploads :D LinusTechTips check, LinusCatTips check, Thechquickie check, razethew0rld check, ashens check. Dam I need more uploads from you guys :D
@andrewrichard5147
11 жыл бұрын
i cant get onto the tor network, it says no open ports, but all ports are open
@tmoosy
11 жыл бұрын
on freenet can you visit sites such as youtube and would logging in to this site provide any information towards what you were on ?
@ExplosivePanda1
11 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be really suspicious ,though, if the last thing the network receives is a bunch of tor videos and then they don't receive anything after that...?
@gnuPirate
9 ай бұрын
Pretty sure Tor was developed by the US Navy / Military or something in the first place? (From my memory of reading about it).
@ThisGameIsTopNotch
10 жыл бұрын
So the whole "trusting tom and tom trusts bob" is this the same with LogMeIn Hamachi?
@dokm91as56
9 жыл бұрын
i think so
@BigBahss
11 жыл бұрын
Just wondering, what graphics card is it that you use as your coaster?
@NedTheDread
11 жыл бұрын
Sort of, but that isn't a secure (or practical) way to destroy data... By erasing and installing a new OS, you write maybe 50GB max. When you write one OS the first 50GB on the HDD is written, then you erase and install the second, which over-writes the same 50GB area... ALL of the other HDD data remains untouched. There are programs to write over your entire HDD many times with random data, this is what you'd want to do to destroy data securely. I recommend the free program DBAN, it's the best.
@MikaelKKarlsson
11 жыл бұрын
The villains are constantly sniffing the open internet for information. They hate TOR.
@UserMum7512
11 жыл бұрын
Freenet sounds awesome!
@gorillasocks
11 жыл бұрын
There are less than 1000 tor exit nodes, so I doubt there are 'lots' of government exit nodes.
@MylesJP
11 жыл бұрын
I think it could be argued that since the monitoring that goes on is non-intrusive (ie. you wouldn't know it's happening if no one told you) it's not as big a deal as some people make it out to be. I personally don't really give a shit if some server farm in Langley filters my web traffic and combs it for certain keywords. It's not as if it's an actual person who goes through your web traffic and judges you accordingly (unless it is... but I'd assume a server would be cheaper).
@satyanjoy
11 жыл бұрын
one of the finest episodes,,good way to start the year :)
@wardope
11 жыл бұрын
Tor is good if you use it with care and think before you do anything
@123456789robbie
11 жыл бұрын
so what would you recommend? i think BT is the way to go for learning.
@blackxd42
11 жыл бұрын
Linux survival guide please. Popular distros, pros/cons, navigation, administration, Windows equivalencies.
@essunset6
11 жыл бұрын
What about using one of your friends as an endpoint on Tor? Best of both worlds?
@bluenapalm123
11 жыл бұрын
I think all the new videos you guys do, need to come with tin hats. But then again, you live in the States, uniform of any US citizen? ;)
@18dnu
9 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to tap into certain circles of friends that are not yours on freenet? Or is it by invite only? Are their freenet chatrooms?
@123456789robbie
11 жыл бұрын
better password, better encryption. what algorithm do you use?
@inuysha360
11 жыл бұрын
that was used for those that wouldnt understand the short forms. no need to mock.
@rizzorepulsive7704
11 жыл бұрын
Why no mention of i2p? It's a much better implementation than tor, and it needs more exposure for it to really shine! Set up i2p and just let it run people, you won't have the same worries as a tor exit node! Help keep the internet free!
@yam316
11 жыл бұрын
yes is different bacause vpn change your entire connection not only in the browser also in p2p connections and vpn is not a program is a remote server so is more secure than tor because tor need a browser a especific 1 firefox in vpn you can use any browser and still secure
@TLBEoGyOH
11 жыл бұрын
ok, can you just clear something up for me then? are the servers all the other places my data goes through? (im a noob when it comes to all this stuff) but no cookies or history are recorded on my PC then
@RodinTheOnlyOne
11 жыл бұрын
It's ridiculous how us human beings are so corrupt that we have to do all this shit JUST so nobody can see all your privacy. How low are we? To the people in 2025, I hope we aren't in a privacy war or some shit.
@GingerGames
11 жыл бұрын
The world a becoming a cross between 1984 and a brave new world. I do not want either let alone both!
@btownsmostwanted
11 жыл бұрын
You guys are hilarious. What about security of sharing your pots and pans video on the regular internet.
@Floydarn
11 жыл бұрын
Don't use a coffee place. Use something like a library or school wifi.
@angelsilva54
11 жыл бұрын
I think you mean Beini its easier for beginners + it has a GUI.
@CamiloSanchez1979
10 жыл бұрын
If you were to remove the very touchy subject of child pornography from the whole anonymity debate, what else besides that could get a person in trouble? Sometimes i feel this debate of privacy is like Schrodinger's cat, at the end the problem arises when you "look" inside.
@jeffreylucas4494
11 жыл бұрын
Very well done. Great video
@Arocker18
11 жыл бұрын
Lol used that torrent scanner in your last episode still a clean Ip
@KiteFlyingGuy
10 жыл бұрын
What about PhsiPhon? I actually only use it at school to get past their block on Tumblr but I'm also curious as to how it works differently than TOR. Somebody told me that it actually creates a vpn and somehow sends stuff to itself before sending it away although I'm not exactly sure how it really works.
@inuysha360
11 жыл бұрын
learn to use Backtrack. it is a Linux distro(bution), a subchild of Ubuntu. made for pen(etration) testing
@inuysha360
11 жыл бұрын
Do a video on proxies, encryption and SSL tunneling such as PGP.
@JanetDiaz6152
11 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@wowcrille95
11 жыл бұрын
And we will salute you!!!
@droid7627
11 жыл бұрын
im going to run a tor exit node just to see if anyone kicks my door down, if they ask why, then ill just laugh and say "because i wanted to waste your time"
@Pongo1320
11 жыл бұрын
Do you know what a wind talker is?
@xxwillxx13
11 жыл бұрын
My school used a $4000 internet security system not even tor could get past that shit.
@mylilmoviesofdoom
11 жыл бұрын
Usually that's how I am too haha. Just keep watching and listening, eventually you'll learn enough to keep up with all of what they're saying.
@penguinskillyou
11 жыл бұрын
Good to see the 'Pun'isher is back with that TOR joke!
@nnaaaaaa
11 жыл бұрын
What about i2p?
@justanotheraccount
11 жыл бұрын
I don't see how either of these services are useful to the general public. Nobody wants to give up their privacy, but using Freenet is incredibly reclusive. Why not go outside? I lose my privacy every day I walk out of my home, what do I have to worry about online? A few things, but not enough to use extremist methods of protection.
@NedTheDread
11 жыл бұрын
Also, you shouldn't be connecting to things you don't trust... especially if you are running windows...
@miguelcordeiro6063
11 жыл бұрын
Really love your videos, keep them coming!
@12me91
11 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda surprised he didn't mention the photo scanning function windows 8 will force on you.
@TomlinsTE
11 жыл бұрын
If my Freenet circle of friends included yellow cake chefs I wouldn't need to go online to search for more information on the subject. The onion exit nodes read our envelopes to include who we are and the final destination of our request, is that information just IP to IP? I guess from there a 3 letter agency likely matches that info to the host server log files to figure out everything that was presumed private?
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