A great character note from Delainey (Claudia's actress) that I wanted to include: "the final look back that Claudia gives Lestat is a look for help. She may hate him but out of everyone left in the room, he is the one she trusts, she is in pain and she is looking to her parent to help her" Lemme tell you, that broke me all over again 💔
@obsidianmermaid
2 ай бұрын
What's worse is Delainey said she's thinking as she burns looking at Lestat, "dad help me."
@cymbamcreynolds8838
2 ай бұрын
It's so sad. He told her there were worse vampires them him. She didn't realize how true that was until her final moments
@yvettelang1961
2 ай бұрын
Lestat was at one point excited about what was going on. When she look at him, you could see he was realizing that she didn't deserve what she got.
@fluorescent_shrimp
2 ай бұрын
@@yvettelang1961he never was excited. He was forced into participating
@yvettelang1961
2 ай бұрын
@@fluorescent_shrimp Forced? Forced how and with what? Who could force Lestat to do anything He said he came for justice and revenge. Then he realized how horrible it was.
@heathenpotato
2 ай бұрын
Armand a few episodes ago: "ENOUGH!" *slams his hand on the table and effortlessly puts every member of the coven to sleep* Armand this episode: "There was nothing I could do to stop them. The vampire Sam was guarding me while holding a prop scythe🥺"
@mrgacha115
2 ай бұрын
Right lmfaooo
@yusam2729
2 ай бұрын
I didn't took it as him using his powers in that scene, for me it was a show of his authority, like they obeyed him in a heartbeat. However, I do agree that he's bulshiting hard by saying he couldn't do the same he did for Louis for Claudia too 🤣 He was definitely thinking about having Louis "without the burden of her"
@priscillamcrmy
2 ай бұрын
the way people in this fandom keep disrespecting the mighty Vampire Sam... yall dont know his power
@Macmaniaaa
2 ай бұрын
@@priscillamcrmy ok explain the vampire sam's power then (unless it's spoilers then no, I haven't read the book).
@mayaamis
2 ай бұрын
@@Macmaniaaa lmao wth. he's a show original character and that was clearly joke and sarcasm 😂
@janicedrew9782
2 ай бұрын
Santiago realizes he is not the biggest Diva on the stage 😅😅
@elijahjackson1052
2 ай бұрын
It wasnt a trial, It was a lynching. This had nothing to do with the laws. Santiago himself said he's broken the laws multiple times. This was all about santiagos vendetta against louis and Armand trying to isolate louis from everyone he loves. No one in the coven is powerful enough to kill Armand. If he wanted to who would've stopped him from saving louis? Also, Lestat was summoned, he was just a pawn in this whole game which is why he did nothing when they were sentenced to death.
@asteven8
2 ай бұрын
Something that occurred to me that I had forgotten: When Claudia was burned alive, Lestat could feel that as the one who made her. And the same goes for Madeline with Louis. In the prior episode, in the cafe scene, Madeline talked about being able to feel Louis, and he could feel her, even if they couldn't read each other's mind. So Louis and Lestat felt on a deeper level the death of their fledgling. whew.
@Wattsupwithhybristophilia
2 ай бұрын
He actually can’t because he made her. All telepathy and being tuned into her emotions is gone for maker and fledgling. What you saw is the pain and mourning in Lestat. He loves her but vampires feel emotion 100 fold and they have no impulse control. I hope they bring in Gabrielle, Lestat’s fledgling and bio mom. She’s a force!
@asteven8
2 ай бұрын
@@Wattsupwithhybristophilia From the cafe scene: Madeline: I cannot read your mind. Louis: The architects of our, uh,...I made you that's just the way it is. Madeline: Yes, but I feel you, Louis. Louis: I feel you too, Madeline. Madeline: I told Claudia I can feel you love her. From the dialogue excerpt it sounds like he can feel her even if he can't read her mind as her maker and her as his fledgling. Idk if that's an oversight from the show...
@Wattsupwithhybristophilia
2 ай бұрын
@@asteven8 so I think what Madeline was saying is she’s feeling his love for Claudia, through Claudia. If you remember in season 1, Lestat cannot keep track of Claudia and Louis physically, nor hear their thoughts, true emotions, it’s why Lestat had Antoinette listen to them telepathically because he could not
@asteven8
2 ай бұрын
@@Wattsupwithhybristophilia Ooooohhhh, gotcha! Thanks for explaining!
@veryshocked68
2 ай бұрын
@@Wattsupwithhybristophilia but what about when Madeleine told Armand she could feel him through Louis? Also, Louis felt Lestat’s presence even before Santiago announced him
@janicedrew9782
2 ай бұрын
Lestat loved Claudia, he was proud of her defiance after her sentence. Notice Lestat is wobbly while standing. I think he was being abused into following that script and still managed to go “off script “ more than once.
@bicarbonat1
2 ай бұрын
Which says a lot about his inherited blood and willpower, because he'd also been starved
@struggleskywalker1025
Ай бұрын
Yeah I had the same thought pattern
@deend7824
9 күн бұрын
@@janicedrew9782 I blame Louis for allowing her to lead their relationship and that's not what parents meant to do. Louis gave her too power to manipulate and poison him against Lestat. He should've stood up to her when she plotting to kill Lestat.
@psychedelicpegasus7587
2 ай бұрын
Louis is canonically already claustrophobic, so the crypt prison was the worst punishment for him with the exception of death.
@psychedelicpegasus7587
2 ай бұрын
In the book IWTV Claudia was 5 years old when she was made a vampire (Kirsten Dunst's Claudia was that bit older, maybe 10/11, as she turned 12 during filming). Anne Rice's own daughter passed away at the age of 5 and this book was inspired by her grief. Madeleine was a doll maker in the book and had also lost a child so their relationship was more mother and child than romantic companions. I love what they did in Season 2. Delainey and Roxane have spectacular chemistry. ❤
@Deltadivaix
2 ай бұрын
that's what I said in a common as well. A mother-daughter relationship. Not lovers or romantic.@@psychedelicpegasus7587
@ljk242_
2 ай бұрын
Jacob Anderson's range of acting is amazing, from grief, depressed, manic, rage, I was astounded of his performance, when I think his confession scene in S1 was top tier, this ep even topped it all, Louis' manic side, I don't think of other actor that could play this Louis other than Jacob, if next year he isn't nominated for Emmy, I will burn the entire hollywood down
@glittermethis
2 ай бұрын
I’m a long time book fan and let me tell you, Jacob will forever be my Louis, period! I cannot describe how he brought out all the nuances of book Louis.
@_notmyproblem_
2 ай бұрын
When I tell you my jaw dropped the moment he went into that maniacal laughter. A whole new side of Louis we got to see! Stellar performance.
@hopet7090
2 ай бұрын
Lestat knew what Claudia would become but he also wanted Claudia. His book expands on them a tad bit more and I know Sam the actor wants to explore them more. His view of Claudia is so heartbreaking. “Even now I can’t say I regret Claudia. Never held her in my arms and whispered about the dark gift to her. My infant death my little evil.” Im paraphrasing the book but he did care for her and was heartbroken at her death cause he couldn’t stop it. And that last look the actress Delainy said “she’s looking at him because despite it all he’s her father and she’s asking “dad help me” in that last look. This episode BROKE ME
@Wattsupwithhybristophilia
2 ай бұрын
I adore Lestat!! I can’t remember the name of the book, but did you read the novel where Lestat adopts 6 year old Rose? Ugh so sweet!!
@hopet7090
2 ай бұрын
@@Wattsupwithhybristophilia no it’s been a few years since I’ve read the books and I only read the first 2. I’m in the process of rereading them right now
@lilianaarmijo4518
2 ай бұрын
@@Wattsupwithhybristophilia es principe lestat
@Kaito20107
2 ай бұрын
Please remember that Claudia is actually a woman in her 40s. Many many fans found her and Madeleines love to be beautiful and true companionship that no other vampire achieved. It's romantic, equals, friendship, understanding, a haven and the only real "coven" either truly belonged to and felt understood and cherished. Claudia is OLDER than Madeleine and her biggest obstacle is that people keep infantalizing her in the show. And audiences do too which is extra sad because then audiences deny her true self as well.
@dominiquedevereux7205
2 ай бұрын
Good point. Cuz even though I KNOW she's a whole, grown-a$$ woman chronologically speaking, I still, in a way, looked at her as Louis' teenage daughter/ sister cuz of how she presents PHYSICALLY. And there are people in real life who have diseases that retard their development physically but are chronologically of legal age. But that's how humans are --- for the MOST part we make judgements off what we see as opposed to the person's character.
@walksonair
2 ай бұрын
Please don’t get caught up like others comparing the book to the adaptation of the show. Claudia was around 5 years old when she was turned by Lestat. In the book it was a way to make Louis stay as he kept telling Lestat he would leave him to go off on his own. When madeleine comes into the picture in the book, madeleine wants Claudia as a replacement to the daughter she previously lost. Claudia wants Madeleine as a caretaker and guardian who will always be there for her. This is because Claudia realizes Armand seeks to have Louis for his own; and companions as far as vampires are concerned, are not for sharing... as far as the show is concerned. The emphasis is companionship and vampire loneliness being the scariest thing that could happen to you. The show outlines that your vampire companion is EVERYTHING to you, friend, lover, confidant etc. It’s ether that or you join a coven where everyone shares everything together; food, sex, all the good and the bad. In the show, Claudia and Madeline really saw each other for who they were and were perfect companions. Claudia is not a child anymore, knew exactly what she wanted and found it. Everyone else around her is fighting for their immortal lives and it’s so sad that she is the one that’s no longer here. But that’s also the point, her memory and example changes everyone in the book and I think that’s where the show will decide to go as well.
@tiffanyhill-rice5126
2 ай бұрын
Bravo for this. Perfectly summarized.
@walksonair
2 ай бұрын
The gag is Lestat and Claudia LOVED each other. That is his daughter, and Claudia learned from the best to really step into her vampire pride. They are so much like each other and I can’t wait when a locket of her or her painting is finally commissioned in her memory. And I’m curious to see if that yellow dress ends up where it ends up in the book💛💐
@glittermethis
2 ай бұрын
I need to see that scene 🤞🏾
@ambriaashley3383
Ай бұрын
I believe she loved Lestat & wanted his acceptance, as any child does, but he sure had a funny way of showing his love to his daughter. Almost a toxic kind of love & control, like with Louis.
@tinwiel-wr1ku
2 ай бұрын
The Coven be like "we're lawyers, we promise", and then the accused are brutalized before trial and not allowed to speak in self-defense. And their only witness dissociates mid-sentence several times and has to be forced on script because he's trying to sell the narrative of NOT being a victim.
@Leomerya12
2 ай бұрын
20:53 He definitely threw that glass at Armand. He knew Armand would dodge it, but it was still a "F U for putting me through all that."
@liliblue
2 ай бұрын
I just noticed that! I thought Louis intentionally threw it at the painting but Armand actually moved out of the way of it.
@nyeishaclark95
2 ай бұрын
I think Lestat physically didn't have all his strength back to be able to save Louis in that moment. It's not that he didn't want to, Santiago and the rest of the coven had him dress up all nice but remember he is still recovering from the attempted murder. Also Delainey (Claudia's actress) confirmed in an interview that Claudia looking at Lestat at the end was her crying for help. There may be hate between them but there was also love, I think deep down Claudia always wanted to feel accepted by Lestat but never got it and the resentment turned to hate for her, but in her final moments, with Madeleine and Louis not with her, she turns to the only other person she trusts. It's heartbreaking to say the least, their relationship was always more fascinating to me than Louis and Claudia's and I wish we got to see more of it.
@janicedrew9782
2 ай бұрын
Lestat’s “god-like” strength is an Easter egg for season 3 if we get it 😍
@kayc421
Ай бұрын
Akasha right???
@janicedrew9782
Ай бұрын
@@kayc421 Oh Yes! 😊 think of her blood as super high octane. ⛽️
@_adrian_sean
2 ай бұрын
I saw a lot of Black fans of the show saying these episode reminded them of a lynching. Destroying Black bodies for entertainment. From cutting their Achilles to feeding her to the rats and laughing to her death in front of the crowd. I agree. There's no way I can watch that episode completely again. Very much reminds me of the series When They See Us. And how often as a Black woman... Ain't nobody coming to save us. 😢 Also..... WHAT in the entire 🤬 is up with Armand?! I can control the whole audience AND the coven to make them catatonic.... Make all their minds say BANISHMENT... But I couldn't create a distraction to help all three of them escape?!? Cuz I wanted Louis to myself?! No words. NO WORDS.
@maize_0
2 ай бұрын
I agree Armand is lying and I believe so because this is his pattern. He made clear that he was tired of the coven and this is similar to the satanic coven he was leading before. He was tired of them and wanted out but was a coward to leave so he allowed Lestat to destroy the coven with his words. Armand had all the strength to kill Lestat but he didn't. Same thing here. Louis and Claudia wandered into the coven in Paris and Armand found the perfect opportunity to rid himself of the coven and pretend as if he couldn't do anything about it. But Armand's sin (in relation to Claudia) doesn't even come close to the sins of Louis and Lestat. The only "innocent" person here whom I support 100% is Claudia (and by extension, Madeline). Louis begged for a daughter and Lestat gave him a daughter, but both of them were parents to Claudia and they failed her big time. First mistake, Lestat making Claudia so young. Second mistake, Louis taking Lestat back after the fight. Lestat had demonstrated how dangerous he was and how much strength he possessed. He also made it clear that he doesn't take kindly to people leaving him. As a parent, Louis should've done everything possible to protect Claudia, to put her first but instead, he was selfish and took Lestat back despite knowing that it put Claudia in danger. And after Lestat was back, Claudia felt left out so she wanted to leave and live her own life, perhaps find her own companion in love but Lestat wouldn't let her leave. She felt trapped. Not Louis though, but Louis wasn't thinking about Claudia. So of course, Claudia killed Lestat because he made her feel trapped and that was her only way out. ALL OF THIS wouldn't have happened if Lestat didn't turn Claudia, and if Louis didn't take Lestat back. In real life what I have hated most in my life are parents who stay with their abusive spouse or take them back every single time, especially when they have children. You are supposed to fight for your children, do everything possible. But some parents (most at times mothers), will stay with the abusive parent and then their child will feel so helpless that one day they'd just snap and kill or hurt the abusive parent. And then they'd have it on their conscious forever. The parent is supposed to protect the child, not the other way round. Louis and Lestat failed Claudia and made her feel trapped, Louis most of all, and for that I despise them so much. Armand just made the most of their stupidity to get what he wanted which is manipulative but far better than what Lestat and Louis did.
@beautifulloly
2 ай бұрын
drag him!!
@walksonair
2 ай бұрын
I think we forget how we were told how VICIOUS those vampires were. Race is a made up construct and I think Anne Rice vampires see beyond that. This is purely that coven treating two vampires that have betrayed laws and lied and they are taking care of it in the worst way they know possible. At the end of the day, Claudia’s life becomes the catalyst for change in every single vampire that lives after her. She haunts at least 2 of them lol The story in the very last book in the vampire chronicles deals with why a solid vampire community is needed with a leader who gets it, so bullshit like this trial doesn’t ever happen again.
@Wattsupwithhybristophilia
2 ай бұрын
Armand and Claudia are more alike than we know. Remember when Armand said you should never turn someone when they are too young? I’m paraphrasing but he said he knows all too well the repercussions of turning too young. They both try to take out their emotional competition
@TamelessKinks
2 ай бұрын
Wow this is a very good point! I didn't have the words but felt this all the same. 😢 Thanks for the insight!
@mitchmatt6002
2 ай бұрын
Lestat breaking ranks with his truth outbursts before being brought back under the 'control' were my favourite parts of this performance trial but, holy hell, was the rest of it painful! Loved the enlightening flashbacks, Santiago's sinister swagger, Madeleine's loyalty to poor Claudia, the creepy cartoon backdrop, and the agonising reunion between Louis and Lestat! Though very brief, one of the most meaningful moments for me was the defiant look Claudia gave Lestat after threatening revenge on the audience, and the look of pride he responded with! As always, I LOVE both of your reactions to this show, and appreciate how you listen to each other's opinions, even when you have contrasting views! Great job! I'm already mourning the period between the finale and S3 (hopefully)!
@maeb9574
2 ай бұрын
Someone else went into this a bit but I wanted to add some points: In the books Claudia was 5 when she was turned, and she was aged up to 11 in the movie bc you simply can’t have child actors doing this kind of work it’s not practical. Even 11 is very young for this work. But in the books, yes madeleine is a different character, and their dynamic is much more mother-daughter. I will be honest and say that this update is one of my favorite changes. The showrunner has talked about aging up Claudia as largely just a pragmatic one in terms of actors and what is possible on screen vs in a book, and then once that choice to age up has been made, they as writers go, okay what makes sense for THIS version of the character. This Claudia deals a lot more with that interesting in-between age that all of us go through where you’re old enough to be somewhat independent and understand the world and have responsibility, but not old enough to really have agency or be taken seriously. And she’s stuck in that child-adult limbo forever in the eyes of the world while she inside matures far beyond that. This Claudia? I do not think it would make sense or feel fitting at all for her to be looking for a companion to be an external-parental figure. She’s spent most of the show trying to get OUT of that dynamic. She’ll never really escape it fully with Louis and lestat bc for better or for worse that is their daughter. But even season 1, being this on-the-verge-of-adulthood character, she wants that kind of profound connection that Louis and lestat has. She wants someone who will be her equal, and more importantly someone who will treat her as an equal, which is something she’s never really had. And additionally, she’s right, it has never been about her with Louis and lestat. They both loved her! That is true and genuine, but that doesn’t mean it’s about her. Louis wanting her turned? Even moreso with this version, we see it has nothing to do with her. Like lestat says in the scene, they don’t KNOW her and Louis is dragging her across the floor like a doll calling her their daughter. Louis wants desperately to be a good person. He wants desperately to hold onto his humanity. That scene would’ve been very shortly after he went home and his own mother called him the devil. So to have a chance to save a young girl who thought he was an angel? He feels the need for that so deeply. But that’s not about Claudia. That’s about his own sense and feeling of being a good person. Lestat talks about what the transformation will do to her and Louis says he /doesn’t care/. And lestat knows, but he still does it because he loves Louis and it’s his only chance to keep him and not be alone. Both of them love her and act out of love for her, but that beginning? Has nothing to do with helping her or what’s good for her. And that hangs over the entire rest of their lives. No matter how much they love her or do for her, she’s still only there, in this position, because her existence was made selfishly. So s1 episode five you get Claudia trying to turn someone to be not her parent, but a companion. “Who’s my Louis? Who’s my lestat? Who do I get to love?” For someone forced to be seen by the world as a child, she still wants love on the level of the adult and person she actually is in her mind and spirit. So then you get to madeleine, who like everyone else initially sees her as a child and dismisses her. But over their time together, she sees who she is, and her mind, and what she’s been through, and they find connection in the darknesses inside them and what they do to endure. Much like Louis feeling seen for the first time ever in the pilot that convinced him to join lestat, Claudia and madeleine are both ostracized and seen in certain lights by everyone else in the world, but they See each other. Kind of like Louis and lestat, even beyond attraction or romance, that is the understanding that love and connection is based on. It doesn’t make sense for this Claudia to want a companion to be her mother forever. It does make sense for this Claudia to try and find connection because in the face of eternity that’s what gets you through life and makes it bearable or meaningful As far as the “that’s creepy she’s a child” argument. I understand where it’s coming from but I also don’t give it much credence. Lestat in this episode comes right out and says that for all intents and purposes turning her in a child’s body will “make her a cripple.” And when Claudia tries to give madeleine an explanation for why she hasn’t grown before she knows she’s a vampire she says “the wars done a lot of things to a lot of people. Stunted growth.” The show, correctly in my opinion, is framing it mostly as analogous to a physical disability. This kind of stuff does actually happen to people who are in horrific situations, like war and starvation. Growth is stunted, puberty doesn’t happen, because your body simply does not have the resources or energy to change like that. Or there are conditions that don’t produce hormones naturally that would lead to something like this. There are even cases where very young, high level athletes like gymnasts who have essentially no body fat, won’t go through puberty at all until later when that changes. In any of those cases, even though those physical developments haven’t occurred, we wouldn’t consider them any less of adults capable of finding love or connection or making decisions. There’s a long history of medicine and society trying to remove agency from people with physical disabilities, especially implying or enforcing the fact that people with physical disabilities could never find love, or have sex etc etc. which is a societal bias that has never been accurate to the actual lives of people who live with disabilities. Because of this, I personally do not read a level of creepiness into their relationship, but understand why some people do. But Claudia is an adult, or at the very least she is to herself. And I find it unfortunate that people would want to confine her to any more isolation than she already experiences because of something the show textually likens to a physical disability. I’m really glad they allowed her love. I’m really glad she, for the first time in her life, found someone that chose her, first, and above anything else, even herself. But kind of like the volatility of Louis and lestat, it’s up to each viewer to decide what they’re comfortable with. For me, Claudia was happy and found someone who loved her and chose her. That’s enough. Wow this got long. Great reaction! Loved to see it
@cymbamcreynolds8838
2 ай бұрын
I enjoyed your comment. This show is so good. Its complex characters are easy to root for and also dislike at the same time. It's hard not to dissect the show when you're a deep thinker. I've wanted to make a deep dive analysis of season 1 before this season aired, but my executive dysfunction is a beast. I'm thankful to see some of my theories validated as some of the blanks were filled throughout this season. I figured Claudia's companion wouldn't be a parent/child relationship given the scene in season 1 when she reveals that she's been trying to turn others without success. In season 1 episode 5, when they stopped fighting, I also suspected that it was Louis taunting Lestat with the threat of leaving that started the fight again. The flashback was sad, but I felt vindicated.
@maxhall2086
2 ай бұрын
I loved Claudia and secretly wished she would survive somehow but her death is such a big part of who Louis becomes. The character has a really sad inspiration. Anne Rice's daughter Michele died of Leukaemia at the age 5. She created Claudia and had her die so she could put her grief onto paper.
@jordanparker657
2 ай бұрын
The rats didn't eat her, they tortured her and then removed her from the bin. The family is being glamored and controlled. This is Armand, he never left the coven , he didn't want Louis to see them rehearsing. This was Armand's grand plan to have Louis all to himself. ( book 6 The Vampire Armand) Eventually people will accept they have never seen the real Lestat, this is either Louis, Claudia or Armand's version of the Vampire Lestat. We may meet him in episode 8. Hopefully to set up season 3....TVL " Claudia was my dark child, my love, evil of my evil. Claudia broke my heart " Lestat de Lioncourt
@KelliFranklin
2 ай бұрын
Where to begin! Lestat was everything I needed him to be in this episode. He exceeded my expectations! Madeleine choosing Claudia even in death was powerful. Claudia went out like a boss! The trial, the play, Lestat, everything, it was all Armand. Nobody believes that Vampire Sam was holding the very powerful Armand at bay in the balcony. This whole scenario reeks of Armand's treachery. Sam Reid crushed it this episode. I cannot wait to see what kind of showdown we get next week between Lestat and Louie!
@Velociraptour
2 ай бұрын
Sam Reid (Lestat) was apparently not into how different this trial was to the original events, so this could still be inaccurate and that's how Sam's cool with it now.
@mariam5640
2 ай бұрын
we're not meant to view santiago's trial as legitimate truth because the show clearly frames it as biased and violent treatment of louis, claudia, and madeline in order to paint lestat as overly victimized. especially considering the racial implications of black characters held on trial, painted as violent, and jeered at in front of a white audience. when santiago says dropping a vampire from the sky is "a mere fall" we as the show's audience know that to be lie because we have the perspective of louis' long healing process, as well as the deep emotional pain that comes from the reading of that moment as domestic violence - even lestat acknowledges this act of violence was DEEPLY traumatic for louis.
@mariam5640
2 ай бұрын
the way reactors are willing to excuse or "understand" lestat's violence towards louis up until the point that HE says explicitly that committed a horrible act is so sad, it says so much that fans only have sympathy for louis when lestat cries for him
@leticiamv
2 ай бұрын
@@mariam5640 I feel empathy for Louis but he already tried to kill Lestat and will try to kill him again in the next episode (I say he will burn him until he melts) so the situation is practically equalized.
@roseofthegarden_
2 ай бұрын
Fr like wtf? Louis crime was...not loving Lestat enough? Trying to leave him? Feeling unloved and undervalued are grounds for leaving him, not punishing someone by violently breaking them. Meanwhile, Lestat admits he wanted to own Louis and have his love and when he didn't get it, he cheated and then violently abused him until he broke him. But like Claudia said, he cried and said sorry so all is forgiven right? Meanwhile, she's the villain for trying to kill the bastard who abused Louis, and she can't just cry and say sorry. @@blastobebe
@leticiamv
2 ай бұрын
@@roseofthegarden_ Nobody is saying that she is a villain, she was a victim obviously, but it's action and reaction, vampires cannot kill their creators, there are consequences, they went to Paris knowing that are horrible vampires there, they should have left but they fell into their trap.
@leticiamv
2 ай бұрын
@@blastobebe Yes, but Louis will take revenge and rightly so on Lestat, (for the second time) what do you still want? Louis is not weak or submissive all the time, he is wounded and he also wounds back.
@mayaamis
2 ай бұрын
It interesting to me how many ppl watched this episode and not realize something is seriously wrong and off with Lestat.. there are scene where he's literally swaying in the back or looking totally out of it. maybe it's cuz I read the books but to me they made it pretty obvious there's more to him being there and "following script". Also Armand is "a prisoner" being guarded by vampire Sam? really?!?! I snorted lol Louis and Claudia and Madeline.. I have no words. Especially for Claudia and Madeline.. too heartbreaking! and it was probably even worse since it was Armand who described their final moments and Louis didn't see it
@mayaamis
2 ай бұрын
20:59 btw.. that painting is "The Storm on the Sea of Galilee" the famous stolen masterpiece by Rembrandt and the biggest mystery and art theft in history. that is worth a whole lot more than tens of thousands.. more like hundreds of millions lol
@KiannaKitter
2 ай бұрын
Claudia was 5 in the book and Madeleine joined her because she had lost a daughter and Claudia was kind of the replacement, it wasn't anything sexual. In this show it is though... Louis is asking them if its romantic and Maddie says "Not yet." Also... all is not as it seems with Lestat. If you look at him, there are times when he is staggering and he has bruises on his hand. He is weakened, he is not in full control. If they follow the books, Lestat is very much not a willing participant in this.
@AnxietyRat
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think them aging up Claudia was vital for them then changing the dynamics between her and Madeline. In the show, Claudia has expressed desire and want to have a romantic vampire companion, like Louis and Lestat were. And so it makes sense in my mind to change Madeline from a mother figure into a true companion for her in all aspects. But I mean yeah absolutely in real life 14 is super sketchy. And Madeline even mentions how younger she looks when they first meet but very quickly realizes that Claudia looks like a child but VERY much is not a child. She figured that out before she even knew Claudia was a vampire. Madeline found out about her being a vampire she was able to tell Madeline her actual age and I'm pretty sure she's older than Madeline is in the show.... But yeah I can understand why in real life the optics of the relationship does not look good.... But this is a supernatural gothic romance 🤷♀️ and I think the show made it clear enough in the scenes that they have together that Madeline likes Claudia for who she is ... NOT how she physically looks. And it's not even just a show thing... In the books the line between parental relationship and romantic relationship ABSOLUTELY get blurred to a slightly/very creepy level. Like in the book, she and Louis kiss on the mouth in a non-father daughter way and sleep cuddling every night... The TV show smartly didn't adapt any of that... The movie does adapt it slightly. But the TV show they removed the kissing and when Louis and Claudia share a coffin they're sleeping head to toe... Not curled up in each other's arms. So yeah... Book readers who are complaining about Madeline and Claudia don't really have a leg to stand on when Louis and Claudia get weird, IMO, in the book. Lol
@KiannaKitter
2 ай бұрын
@@AnxietyRat Agreed. It gets way weirder in the books. Especially Louis and Claudia’s pseudo-lover relationship. Maddie is attracted to her mind and spirit and she is able to overlook her physical appearance, her love trancends that and I think that's kind of beautiful in a way. It doesn't bother me. As you say, they aren't human, this is gothic romance so we can't judge them from human standards 🤷♀️
@dominiquedevereux7205
2 ай бұрын
@@AnxietyRatPlus, in the episode where Madeleine is fitting Claudia for her yellow dress, Madeleine in a roundabout way asks Claudia her age & though Claudia doesn't give a #, she says because of the war & lack of food available during the time, her growth was stunted as she was a child during the time, that that is why she looks like a child. So even though that reason was a lie, she was basically telling Madeline that "Yes --- I am of legal age.". So to me, Madeleine wasn't "creeping" on her.
@hopet7090
2 ай бұрын
I think it’s important to remember that some of this retelling is also influenced by Armand warping Louis mind. I feel like some of what we see in the fight is true but also Claudia’s recollection in her diaries( something no one was meant to see) is true.
@anab359
2 ай бұрын
Great reaction, as always! In the book, Claudia was turned before she turned 6, in the movie she was around 11. But in both, their relationship was similar to a mother-daughter relationship (the very begining of it in the books and all of it in the movie), or a friendship. In the show it's more clear that they have a friendship that would eventually evolve into a romance and I don't see the problem with that. The point of their relationship is having someone who can see Claudia as more than a child, who can see her as her own person apart from Louis and Louis and Lestat's relationship and who can understand and respect her as an adult. Both in the book and the show, Madeleine creates these little ways of making Claudia see herself as more than her body (adapted furniture and dresses), and this is so much more important and deep than the "creepy thing" some people see in it.
@KelliFranklin
2 ай бұрын
Santiago was right about Lestat having an ancient and god like strength. I hope we get that part of Lestat's story next season.
@vesbarrow
2 ай бұрын
@@KelliFranklin Akasha! I was so excited when he said that.
@Wattsupwithhybristophilia
2 ай бұрын
Me too!!! The vampire Lestat and queen of the damned are my favorites in the series! I hope they bring in Lestat’s Bio mom!
@CindyWilson1991
2 ай бұрын
@@Wattsupwithhybristophilia Rolin said she'll be a major character next season.
@lenoraGrayce
2 ай бұрын
Claudia is five in the book and 12 in the 1990s movie. Her character was inspired by Anne Rice’s own daughter who died at age 5 of cancer. And Madeleine symbolized Anne as a mother who wanted a child who could never die. LOVE, Love, Love your reactions!!
@marirezende8478
2 ай бұрын
Please god may they notice lestat didn't want to be there saying all those stuff 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 let's watch
@evangelinasmusic
2 ай бұрын
Amennnnn!
@Wattsupwithhybristophilia
2 ай бұрын
That yellow dress. Keep your eye on it
@RoRo-yn8sz
Ай бұрын
I think one of the best analysis of Claudia and Madeleine I’ve read recently is that Claudia is the equivalent of a disabled woman. Capable of experiencing sexual and romantic desires, and longing for companionship, while the world infantilizes her. And that’s the experience for a lot of people with disabilities, of infantilizing them, while casting anyone who is attracted to them as a creep preying on them. Denying the disabled person their agency and ownership of themselves, their decisions and desires. While Claudia is physically a child, she is not an actual child in her mind, and crucially, I think, Delainey is not a child. So the audience, and Madeleine, can see her as she truly is. A monster, and a woman, capable of making her own decisions.
@belxgarcia
2 ай бұрын
This episode was devastating, I love Claudia so much and it comforts me to know that she was prioritized by at least one person in her life. In fact, this episode was peak gothic romance: Madeleine preferring to die rather than live without Claudia, Claudia holding her in her arms while they both burn to death... Sad, dramatic and romantic, Claudia really was the daughter of Louis and Lestat. And I don't think this is Lestat's revenge... We know how self-centered and performative he is, so he returns to the stage of the theater HE founded after decades and an audience of MORTALS is the one giving the sentence? I truly believe Lestat wanted visceral revenge but I don't believe he would do it like that, he could barely look Louis and Claudia in the eyes... Lestat would give that kind of revenge to an enemy he despised, not one he loved
@heatherrainr.8267
2 ай бұрын
Syntell is right about the Claudia and Madeleine dynamic. Now, in the book (Claudia is 5) and the film (10), it was actually a mother-daughter relationship. But the point remained, that Claudia had someone who put her first and loved her unconditionally. In the show, in EP. 6 when Louis asked if their relationship was romantic, they both said no....but then Madeleine added, "Not yet." I don't know if in the months they were gone that it DID finally get romantic between them, but it was the plan. Roxane Duran, Madeleine's actor gave us the dialogue Claudia and Madeleine whispered in their last moments. Basically, it was Claudia reassuring Madeleine everything would be okay and that she loved her. And Madeleine said it back.
@JessLoveyy
Ай бұрын
Yeah I was a bit confused. Even in the movie, it’s more of a mother/daughter relationship but in the show it’s kind weird that she wants a romantic relationship with a child
@dem0litionsss
22 күн бұрын
@@JessLoveyyclaudia isnt a child and madeleine knows that. thats the whole point, madeleine is one of the only people who doesnt see her as a child and doesnt treat her as such
@ohsheila44
2 ай бұрын
I was in tears during Claudia's death scene. It tore me up. Look on Lestat's face said it all. Next week Louie's retribution. Can't wait. Best series on television right now.
@sashaparrish228
2 ай бұрын
Claudia and Madeleines relationship in the book is very much mother/daughter bc book Claudia was turned at around 6 I believe. I wasn’t fully on board w them in the show bc it is on the verge of becoming romantic until this episode because of exactly what Syntell says about Claudia finally being put first and actually being seen as the 42 year old she is. It’s still pretty weird though but that’s Anne Rice for you Claudia and Lestat’s very last look was so heart breaking. I’m so fascinated by their relationship because that level of hatred is only possible because they loved each other at first. And as much as Claudia may hate it the apple did not fall far from the tree. I could see Delaineys Claudia coming back to haunt him in the future. Or at least I hope so I’m such a Claudia fan. People have also pointed out that Lestat’s role in the trial may not have been as willing as it seems to be. It’s possible the coven is in his mind too.
@goodadvice99
2 ай бұрын
Claudia is NOT a child, calling her that is wrong. That is the whole issue, she's a grown woman stuck in a teenager's body with teenage impulses and temperament. In the book it was worse because she was only 4 or 5 years old and needed an adult companion because of how tiny she was. She literally could not live on her own without an adult to help her maintain the facade. She wanted to leave Louis naturally the way young adult children eventually leave the nest, she just couldn't do it alone so Louis granted her leave by turning Madeline as she begged him to - much like the movie version except in the movie Claudia was turned around age 10 so Kirsten Dunst could play her. If you ask me, they made Claudia too old in the series because with some makeup and mature clothing so she could pass for a petite lady. In the book the vampires don't have sex, instead they have intimacy and companionship. However, I like that they do on the series 😊
@Tipat_
2 ай бұрын
Lestat is so good in saying his lines, I can't tell what is true anymore, I feel like watching season 1 again to refresh my mind 😂
@DrClarenceBrownIII
2 ай бұрын
Your reviews are awesome! I love you guys. In the book, Claudia was 5 years old when they turned her into a vampire. For this show, Jacob, Sam, and Delaney deserve all the awards that they can dream of! Spectacular performances!!!
@Velociraptour
2 ай бұрын
Now we know why they made Madeleine a collaborator in this version, she was going to go thru that "trial by mob" again.
@beautifulloly
2 ай бұрын
she wasn't a collaborator tho, she didn't HELP the german with anything, just had sex with a soldier
@hopet7090
2 ай бұрын
Oh lord i was afraid for this reaction to come out. I wonder if they’ll notice the spells they were being put under in the background including Lestat. This is the episode for unreliable narrative mixed with truth and I can’t wait for Armand to get what’s coming to him. That whole narrative that Armand couldn’t do anything is a lie he tells to himself and others. I am slightly happy they didn’t go into the horrendous mess Armand directly does to Claudia before her death. But make no mistake he was not helpless and he set them up to get Louis alone. Just as he did with killing Nicki
@glittermethis
2 ай бұрын
Remember, we didn’t find out about that part until Armand’s book. I know Armand’s lying his ass of at the moment for Louis’ benefit. However, he didn’t lie in his own book. We haven’t really heard Armand’s story. The show could still go there 🫣😳
@hopet7090
2 ай бұрын
@@glittermethis true true I hope they go into his book. I hope the series continues Assad is such a good Armand. His acting is so fantastic. They play these complicated characters SO WELL
@glittermethis
2 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, and I hope the full truth about what happened to Nicki comes out. This show doesn’t seem afraid handle the of the horror aspects of the source material.
@hopet7090
2 ай бұрын
@@glittermethis and I noticed in the Lestat flash back when he carried his body Nicki’s hands were out frame and the seed is already planted with the trial cause Lestat looks at him when they talk about nicki dying
@glittermethis
2 ай бұрын
@@hopet7090 I’m so glad that we have Assad as Armand. That makes me very excited for season 3, there’s so much more story to tell and more vampires to meet. We got lucky with Jacob and Sam as our leads too. A precedence has definitely started.
@ireallywannasleep3737
Ай бұрын
Claudia is not 14. Yes her body is stuck but shes an adult woman, with an adult brain in her 40s. The one thing she did not want, the one thing she was trying to escape her whole life, was being infantalized. I believe she proves herself as an adult over and over again, but everyone around her, and a big part of the fanbase cant see her as anything but a child. Sadly Lestat was right:( I def think Madeline understood that, and their relationship didnt get near romantic until she found that out. They truly could have been the vampirec power couple. Claudias death will haunt me. It really was never about her... and when she finally found someone who chose all of her, accepting death for her... she got killed
@estarkee4731
2 ай бұрын
I am so happy that I found other melinated people that are into this show as much as I am 🎉🎉🎉🎉😂❤
@HorrorGeek9
2 ай бұрын
It was essentially a brutal lynching of 2 black Vampires. The coven dehumanized Louis and Claudia by applying anti-black racist stereotypes to them. Like portraying Louis as a violent and sexual predator/seductress. This whole thing made me sad, but I love that Claudia finally had someone choose her in Madeleine. My coven is Claudia Louis and Claudia 💙 screaming for each other as Louis gets banished broke my heart. Interesting reactions, as always. Also, Claudia and Madeleine are definitely supposed to be interpreted as romantic (They got captured in a lesbian club in episode 6).
@Pooobaihr23
2 ай бұрын
In the book, Claudia is 5 (but is 65 at her death.). Her relationship with Madeline familial. Madeline lost a daughter and Claudia became her replacement. In this series, she is 14 at turning, but she is 52 when she is killed. Claudia is older than Madeline, which is how Madeline looks at her the way she does.
@zhanghao7815
2 ай бұрын
Armand is fucked up, he had Louis all by himself after Claudia got Madeline then why did he need to get rid of Claudia 😢
@googleuser7454
2 ай бұрын
In his mind, Claudia would always be a part of Louis and we can't have that 😂. Plus, he probably wanted a way to the coven off his back
@yvettelang1961
2 ай бұрын
Claudia was 5 yrs old in the book and Madeline was to be her caretaker. The show Madeline said that were not "yet". So they were becoming romantic. Santiago thought he could control Lestat. The god like power is from The Vampire Queen. All hell is going to break out.
@shanajeangedeon9060
2 ай бұрын
3:07 She's a vampire, she heals😅
@beautifulloly
2 ай бұрын
I believe there's something romantic about Madeleine and Claudia but they saw each other after two years and Madeleine knew something was up because claudia looked the same. Sure we know Delainey is an adult but i think their love goes beyond lust or anything like that, Madeleine's the only one who sees her as a woman, and not this little teen girl. It doesn't really feel creepy to me especially compared to the movie, in the books i'm pretty sure claudia is like 6 or smth Claudia's last look at Lestat might be seen as her punishing him, making sure he never forgets what he did, but to me that was a scared little girl in pain, alone in front of a mob who wants to see her dead, looking at her father for comfort in her last moments. She held Madeleine and then Madeleine died, and she was alone and in pain on that stage, everybody in the room hated her, Louis was away, and she hates Lestat but she has loved him once in her life, and he has loved her too at some point, so he was the only one she could turn to. Actually Delainey Hayles comfirmed that point of view in multiple interviews, that it was basically Claudia going "Dad help me" 😢 And Lestat will always remember her like that, that's a haunting scene.
@hypertwink
2 ай бұрын
I could not prevent it. Sir, you sit on a throne of lies 😂 - This os Memento on 1970s Daniel’s blood. Everyone is an unreliable narrator.
@whatadollslife
Ай бұрын
Are you going to react to the season finale???
@hypocritex
2 ай бұрын
Might be one of the best acted episodes of Television I've ever seen as a whole. Sam Reid was OUT of this world. This is the best reaction I've seen on this episode thus far. You two actually understand Louis was part of the problem. And was also abusive towards Lestat.(Using Lestats fear of loneliness as a weapon) Louis continues to be a problem to everyone around him. Lestat did actually care for her. You can see horror and relief when she is burnt. He tried to warn Louis.. Lestat mourns her in the books. Also... Lestat was captive during this play as well.
@NellieDWrites892
Ай бұрын
It was mesmerizing. It left me speechless.
@hypocritex
Ай бұрын
@@NellieDWrites892 Wait until the finale. It's even better then this.
@NellieDWrites892
Ай бұрын
@@hypocritex You were right. Episode 8 ended me. Omg! It was so good.
@hypocritex
Ай бұрын
@@NellieDWrites892 Wasn't it though!? Those two episodes are peak television. Two of the best episodes of TV I've ever seen. Up there for sure. The reunion in the hurricane though? How good was Sam Reid there. I've seen it like 5 times. And I cry like every time. Haha
@NellieDWrites892
Ай бұрын
@@hypocritexSam Reid is a stellar actor. They all are. It was everything.
@Wattsupwithhybristophilia
2 ай бұрын
Wait til y’all meet Lestat’s bio mother and fledgling! What a bad ass beatch! One of my fav vamps!
@mufay8032
2 ай бұрын
oo spoil for me pls
@Wattsupwithhybristophilia
2 ай бұрын
@@mufay8032 next season most likely will be “The vampire Lestat” amazing read! He turns his own mother! A bad ass for sure! I love her character
@akilahlittlejohn4940
2 ай бұрын
I did like season one more but the performances in season 2 was more honed in.
@spunkybrewster8404
2 ай бұрын
In that moment when Claudia was burning and turned to look at Lestat, she wanted her daddy to save her. Lestat looked devastated and wanted to as well, but couldn't. I think Armond had a tight grip on him through most of the event. He wants to break their tie forever, but as we see Dreamstat is in Dubai.
@raestone4270
2 ай бұрын
Claudia is a grown woman. She’s actually likely older than Madeleine. The beauty of the relationship is that Madeleine sees her as the woman she is.
@0l._.l0895
2 ай бұрын
Something interesting to me is that both POVS are correct in some capacity. When Lestat says that Louis lured him in Louis says you said that to me, I think that's the way they viewed it about each other. Lestat still remembers Louis kissing him like he loved him in that church and the only reason they both remember the Claudia incident differently is because both parts could be true somehow. But we do have to remember the two biggest points of all. Armand is the only person capable of the mind control that we see. And no one including Claudia is a reliable narrator. Claudia started lying in her journals somewhat after they read them. Louis's mind has been shaken since the beginning and we haven't even heard Lestat's recount from his own mouth. Armand is selfish because he also wants to control the narrative and openly admits to ripping out pages that include him.
@strawberrychampagnechica1193
2 ай бұрын
Sam Ried is an amazing sexy actor!
@_adrian_sean
2 ай бұрын
📚 in the books the relationship between Claudia and Madeleine was not romantic. Anne Rice the creator of this story and universe lost her daughter when she was a child. Claudia IS Anne Rice's daughter. Madeleine is Anne Rice. The relationship in the book was a mother who had lost her daughter but wanted to become a vampire because she found this new daughter that was a forever child, a forever daughter, that couldn't die by disease. 😢
@angelacanedit
2 ай бұрын
Eh, true but I think it's more complicated than that. Companionship throughout the books is always used as a kind of romantic metaphor
@evangelinasmusic
2 ай бұрын
In interviews Anne always said Louis was her. She even said she’s the only woman plan to be played by Brad Pitt lol In one interview she talked about not being that interested in Madeleine. I feel like maybe Madeleine represented a part of herself she wasn’t happy about.
@walksonair
2 ай бұрын
Anne often mentioned she felt most like Louis writing the first book then Lestat emerging out of her and her identifying with him the most after TVL and onwards.
@RAA_50
2 ай бұрын
Yes, in the movie as well.
@gmunden1
2 ай бұрын
Santiago is merciless, and he enjoys being a mimic.
@tsvampirella
2 ай бұрын
Also they lestat conveniently left out the part that he physically abused Claudia… that’s why the fight started
@jomiasharris357
2 ай бұрын
Love you guys. I think they have the opportunity to do something wild. In the books, Armand actually experimented on Claudia. Trying to give her a grown up body. So theres a chance there is Louis who finds out what happens in 1940 when he gets out the coffin and then does what he does in the coven. But since we know Armand has been messing with minds, what if finds out what Armand truly did in the present? It could make for some interesting media..
@mitch1833
2 ай бұрын
It was heartbreaking. Delainey confirmed that Claudia is looking to Lestat for help in her last moments. It was just Damn. On second viewing, At the trial, It looks like Lestat has bruises on his hands, and can be seen zoning out. So, I think Armand or the coven had some control over him. But, it looks like Santiago used his ability to mimic Louis' voice, and tricked Lestat into thinking Louis was calling him "Come to me." But, we may not get to see Lestat's version of how and why he showed up for the trial. Anyway, Your reactions are so genuine! Great job, guys!
@GenerousKingATL
2 ай бұрын
Lestat suit I need
@Jbreeze3878
2 ай бұрын
Best show on TV
@RPTest-pe2im
2 ай бұрын
Claudia is 5 in the books, and the relationship between them is very different. It's more mother/daughter. Claudia resembles the child she lost due to illness.
@alwaysbam
2 ай бұрын
Ok but this feels all RECTONNED. Now they show us Lestat POV. I mean shit. That fight was tramautic They blamed louis and claudia for not knowing Louis would be fine.ONE. it took 4 years. 2 Lestat never educated them. That's the point and the problem. That didn't know WHAT they didn't know. That's said. This is sad for all 3. I feel Claudia with her companion would have been better with Louis and Lestat. She had grown as person. They all acted thier asses off
@HorrorGeek9
2 ай бұрын
I loved season 1 but I definitely think season 2 is stronger. Episode 5-7 of season 2 are just phenomenal pieces of television in terms of writing and performances. Just banger after banger 🙌🏾
@AnxietyRat
2 ай бұрын
Are you guys going to watch the movie after the finale? I'd be interested to see what you guys think of a slightly more book timeline version of the story... And you can see what changes and improvements that the show has made... Because I agree with a lot of other people that making Louis a black man was SUCH a interesting detail that adds so much richness and nuance into the story that just doesn't exist in the book or the movie.
@lenorawilson2326
2 ай бұрын
I haven't read the books, but in the books, I do know that Claudia is 5- years old and in the books, Madeline is not a romantic interest in the book, , she's a mother to Caudia. I think they just did that for the show, because Louis has a companion, he's had, I now two and Claudia had the last companion and Charlie, so they were trying to give her someone that she could love and love her for herself a real companion. It's definitely makes you look with a side eye, but Claudia is much older. At this point she's most likely a lot older than Madeline. And yes Sam Reid turn in a stunning performance. I still believe that Armond has allowed the full truth to be told. If you remember from season one Least didn't have a mark on him during the fight, whereas we see here he is just as beaten up as Louis. I believe it be in the 70s Louis was talking real reckless, too, Armand, after he bit Daniel. The drugs, didn't make him say those things, the drugs just allowed him to say what he was truly feeling without a filter. I don't think Paul was the only brother dealing with some mental health issues, seeing Paul die the way he did made him feel helpless, that's what he wanted Claudia to save her because he couldn't save his brother.
@chazal114
Ай бұрын
In the books, Claudia is actually only 5 years old when she’s turned and is executed at the age of 86; emotionally and intellectually, she continues to grow as any other person would. So there in lies her tragedy is that she’s always deemed a child (and a very young one at that) but she has the mind and emotional maturity of a grown woman. In the film adaptation, they knew it wouldn’t be possible to cast a child of that age with the ability to portray this so they made her 10 instead.
@istoppedthecar
Ай бұрын
Claudia is actually much older than Madeline. Why is anyone describing this relationship as an adult/child one?
@vi-violetta
2 ай бұрын
“i don’t condone it but i understand” domestic violence🤨
@vividlykc
2 ай бұрын
like what?
@vi-violetta
2 ай бұрын
@@vividlykc lestat beating louis???
@XHeartCriztalx
24 күн бұрын
i get where you're coming from but they're obvs talking about this while accounting for the nuance that comes from trying to understand the 30+ yr old relationship between two monstrously powerful immortal vampires, not bob and pam down the street
@Triskaan
2 ай бұрын
Man what a show. Sam and Delainey were on fire (litteraly in the case of one of them there) this episode.
@hopet7090
2 ай бұрын
Oh lord i was afraid for this reaction to come out. I wonder if they’ll notice the spells they were being put under in the background including Lestat. This is the episode for unreliable narrative mixed with truth and I can’t wait for Armand to get what’s coming to him
@5starhigh
2 ай бұрын
Yea, Lestat was swaying at one point like he was under mind control himself
@hopet7090
2 ай бұрын
@@5starhigh and his hands are bruised up in SEVERAL SCENES. When Louis talks you can see it but when Armand does the bruises are slightly less there but still there. We are being manipulated through the storytelling and it’s done so well! This show has no right to be this good
@androd1279
2 ай бұрын
There are clues that something is off with Lestat and that he may have been coerced into participating in the trial and may have been physically unable to save them. If you rewatch the trial, watch him the entire time. He is going in and out of consciousness, zoning out, and swaying on his feet. There is also some shading on his hands and wrists that may be bruises. As for Armand, he put the entire coven to sleep by pounding his wrist on the table, yet he was unable to move because of Sam the most basic vampire in the coven? Something is off. I also would like to say I love watching you both. You have some of the best discussions. See you for the finale.
@tricepnm8590
2 ай бұрын
I’ve never read the books but just saw the movie years ago but I don’t trust Armand. I feel he wanted to get back at Lestat and keep Louie to himself as well as get rid of Claudia. I’m sure he had a much bigger role in this “trial”. What I want to just discuss is how amazing this episode was from beginning to end. The acting was AMAZING!!!! It has been from S1 episode1. They definitely are worthy of all the awards and flowers. The show is top tier and deserves way more recognition. It’s coming for sure.. !! Thanks for the review guys. Love the channel 😊
@R3HealingModalities
2 ай бұрын
In the book, Madeline is a woman whose child has died. She sees in Claudia a child who cannot die. Claudia is a 5 year old in the book - mentally aged 75. Madeline is a grieving mother. Claudia is losing Louis to Armand and finds the unconditional love of a parent from Madeline.
@iwillcry
2 ай бұрын
This was a bit of a hard reaction to watch. some comments you made about Lestat's abuse of Louis and Claudia felt a bit avoidant of the real issue. The trial was all about painting the victims as the aggressors, as deserving of their fate. And if I went through what they went through I would also want to kill Lestat.
@Bree6v6
2 ай бұрын
@iwillcry There is no denying that what Lestat did was abuse , but Louis is also not the perfect victim y’all paint him out to be. This is not saying that Claudia and Louis deserved what happened, but we see that Louis is also borderline emotionally abusive to Lestat and was threatening him with loneliness. The characters are all flawed in some way and it annoys me so much when y’all play the moral Olympics with this show. First of this is FICTIONAL and yes they did try and paint Louis and Claudia as aggressive, but we see Lestat constantly breaking script and also condemning himself in the trial. All of that blame should be placed on the Paris Coven.
@abbyanderson2463
2 ай бұрын
@@Bree6v6 victims of abuse are rarely perfect and the idea that they should be is often used against them. at the end of the day Lestat trapped Louis in misery, he took advantage of Louis after his brother had died, his family blamed him for sending him to hell, in the midst of him struggling with his sexuality by manipulating him into companionship. Louis emotionally abusive in that moment because he despised vampire life, which was pretty much forced upon him by Lestat, because he saw ‘saving’ Claudia as a way out of his misery. He dropped him from the sky, crippling him for months. He prevented Louis and Claudia from leaving, trapping them in their family. Unless the show has a lot more to reveal about their dynamic, which I’m not sure they do because much of how their relationship was portrayed would be corroborated by Claudia’s diaries, Lestat was far more abusive to Louis. I’m not sure how morally grey we can call the dynamic between them
@Bree6v6
2 ай бұрын
@@abbyanderson2463 does Louis not have autonomy? Y’all can believe what y’all like but he chose to be with Lestat , he chose to have Lestat turn Claudia despite his warnings, he had seven years to leave and he admitted that all he did in those seven years was treat Lestat like shit. I have complete sympathy for Louis and if I was him there is no way in hell I would have taken Lestat back but he did, and he is not perfect. And he did emotionally abuse Lestat at that time and again abuse is abuse so why are you defending one but not the other. And that’s the thing , no one in this show is perfect they are all flawed and morally grey. Also what makes Louis so different from other Vampires is how much mortality he maintains which is why he is always at odds with his Vampiric life, which is not Lestats fault.
@vividlykc
2 ай бұрын
it went right over their heads and that's probably why they found the trial so funny when in actuality it was anything but.
@Mzkinkie89
2 ай бұрын
Lestat has ancient blood..the same blood that brought him back and the same blood that flows thru Claudia...I truly believe this is not the end of her
@jpinlasvegas1736
2 ай бұрын
Did anyone else notice, that at least 3 times, Lestat looked frail and unsteady? Also, I think Louis’ perception is way off. Lestat could have punched him in the head if he wanted to kill him. And, Claudia was 5 years old in the books.
@gmunden1
2 ай бұрын
In the book, Claudia is 5 years old. In the film the physical age of Claudia is about 10 years old. The relationship between Claudia and Madeleine is not romantic. In the book , Madeleine lost her child to illness. As in the film, Madeleine wanted to be turned because she would have a child that could not die.
@TheErikBallew
2 ай бұрын
I wonder if they'll weave in anything from the Vampire Armand's book, with his first hand account of what really happened after Louis was taken away.
@mlukas3850
2 ай бұрын
I dunno if anyone said this, but in the books Claudia is about 5 when she is turned and her relationship with Madeline wasn't sexual it was more of a mother-daughter pairing and someone who could theoretically protect Claudia. Also, by this time, mentally Claudia is like between like late 40s to 60s in age, so she is actually older than Madeline. And the show was explicit before Madeline was turned when Louis asked if it was romantic and Claudia said no and Madeline said "not yet"; they also clearly talked about certain things during their time away.
@lilianaarmijo4518
2 ай бұрын
5 años fisicos pero 70 años mentalmente en el libro
@NicB05
2 ай бұрын
The comments..seems like yall just want everyone to have the exact same opinion of every character? I think it's fun that they like Armand lol, makes the reactions fun to watch.
@amnanasir473
2 ай бұрын
Majority of people love Armand, including me but we also acknowledge that he’s a master manipulator, but here they think he’s a victim and a saint and none of it Is his fault.
@NicB05
2 ай бұрын
@@amnanasir473 Yeah, I mean if that's how they view it, then it is what it is right now...As more of the show comes out, then their opinions may change accordingly
@obsidianmermaid
2 ай бұрын
I'm thinking they, the Coven, kept Madeleine out of it so she could not read Lestat and warn/tell Claudia and Louis what was really going on
@GenerousKingATL
2 ай бұрын
Lestat was telling the truth
@SophieHeflebower
12 сағат бұрын
just because louis loved claudia doesn’t mean he didn’t use her.
@houseonjupiter
2 ай бұрын
in the book claudia was forever stuck in a 5 year old's body and she actually had a romantic relationship with louis. they were described as 'paramours' and 'companions'. the books are good, but there's a lot of things that will make you raise your eyebrows and go 'huhhh??' when you read them, lol. i do also have to say though that the vampires in the books become completely asexual when they turn. that's a thing the show changed, but in the books when vampires are intimate they drink each other's blood, they don't have sex, they have no interest in it.
@focusonu9668
2 ай бұрын
I am obsessed with this show💪🏾
@DazzleDen
2 ай бұрын
❤Love you guys! From what I remember in the book Claudia was about 5yrs old and in the movie Claudia was portrayed a being about 10 yrs old. In the book and movie Madeline was a grieving mother who had lost her child to the plague so looked at Claudia as her forever child. In this series I think Madeline and Claudia’s relationship is more like big sister little sister.
@jessicabenton5215
2 ай бұрын
I think Lestat loved Claudia as an extension of himself, and it frustrated him so much that she was against him.
@andrewroberts7788
2 ай бұрын
Really hoping for season 3 and a adaption of The Vampire Lestat.
@luvvbbyyo
2 ай бұрын
we are early I’m not ready for what’s coming
@jb2839
2 ай бұрын
❤ lestat has me in the feels
@annaherebia7127
2 ай бұрын
Of course Lestat loved Claudia! He loved Loui the most, but Claudias death hauted him for all eternity. Thats the drama, and that is why they decided to show Claudias and Lestats goodbye...yeah he made her for Louie, but after he loved her for what she was, a great vampire, his inmortal daughter.
@ambriaashley3383
Ай бұрын
I think he showed his love too late & regrets that. He was extremely jealous (& scared) of her (& what he had done) at first. But then it hit him after she was gone how he had treated her & honestly how he wasted time not being there for her. 😢
@Wattsupwithhybristophilia
2 ай бұрын
Keep an eye on that yellow dress and Lestat. His heartbreak will bring y’all to your knees. (Jk I’m not that dramatic) lol
@jessicabenton5215
2 ай бұрын
Loui in modern day sounded like he was talking about a lynching that he was apart of. The same way my grandparents talk about Jim Crow
@onyx081
2 ай бұрын
@ 10:46 Armand has never turned anyone into a Vampire because he never learned how like they mentioned in the previous episode
@glittermethis
2 ай бұрын
He knows how to turn someone. He has personal convictions about being a maker that he explained in the last episode, he was being honest about those reasons. The discussion will come up again.
@jerarrinkennerly3799
2 ай бұрын
The only part that was kind of disgusting me about Claudia and Madeline's relationship was in episode 6. Louis asked if they've been intimate and Madeline said, "Not yet!" This episode broke me! Claudia was my favorite character (she was my fave in the movie also) and I knew it was coming. But part of me was wishing that they'd change the outcome. She went out like a G, though! She was the vampire that Lestat always wanted Louis to be.
@la_beatrice
9 күн бұрын
On the which season is better debate, my vote is for season 2, but by a very narrow margin. They are both phenomenal.
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