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@williamhad
2 жыл бұрын
This video got me thinking. I wonder if this MBTI group can only really feel the presence of others through a power struggle. Almost like the opposite of Fe. Fe users can feel each other through being "nice" to each other (it all feels so fake to me ) . Fi - Se users feel each other through challenging each other. Personally, I really struggle to connect emotionally to people that wont power struggle with me. Like I get along very well with NFPs but always feel like I'm talking to an empty shell when they refuse to play power games. I don't know if any of this makes sense. -INTJ
@dystopiaincognito
8 ай бұрын
It makes absolute sense to me, I care about Loyalty as opposed to Harmony and want to be challenged especially by the ones I do allow to get close to me.
@sash8099
2 жыл бұрын
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@SaraMBTI
2 жыл бұрын
Haha, tnx 😊
@acidsuzanne4049
2 күн бұрын
As a INTJ I can definitely confirm. I had fantasized about being a better partner to my friend's partners. I notice clearly their mistakes in relationships and it's annoying how blind people can be on their own behavior. I'm not taking any action in that though, mostly I just sit there and think "Told ya it was gonna go like this".
@optimist-ri1439
2 жыл бұрын
This is interesting. As an ISFP, I can not fathom there being a 'thrill of conquest' of someones partner. My FI is always checking how I'm treating others & since I can remember in my youth I always thought about the outcome of different seneriors. An undercut, deceitful, immoral gain is horrifying to me because you can see the outcome of it. This is how I always saw things. The very thought is appalling and disgusting. As someone else mentioned, love relationship to me is something deep & sacred that you don't dare interfere with. I also view friendships like that. But I am aware that still everyone is different. I'm an enneagram 9. I was married to an EXFJ who was persuded by his workmate...Don't know her type. But he wasn't loyal to me. And an ENTP being loyal? Very questionable since I know one, who just can't commit to a relationship, though she is loyal to her friends & family. I know 3 ESFP and have never seen in them 'the thrill of conquest' of something that didn't belong to them. So this observation is really interesting.
@tiernanwoollaston1669
2 жыл бұрын
The function combo can be very hyper focused on actualisation and once things go to shit, it can feel like everything that has been worked to towards has collapsed with no way out. Anxiety of whether the future actualisation will go ahead or not can pose for a need of loyalty and reassurance. So it makes sense that when unhealthy might still push to chase the less attainable to focus energy on working towards
@SaraMBTI
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting ✨ Thank you!
@billsmith6457
2 жыл бұрын
"The thrill of the conquest" does seem common to this Quadrant and does a good job of describing how Te-Se work together. I'm INTJ and my experience is different than what you've mentioned, perhaps due to being male. Because my fe blindspot is so bad I don't even bother trying to chase anymore instead I just sort of peacock and wait for ENFP's to come to me lol. I know one ENTJ who openly bragged about lying about his partner count in order to get with one particular girl, another who just seemed to want to have sex with everyone, and another who just wants to have a love life in general. I've observed them a few times but to get a true inner understanding I suppose one would have to date an ENTJ or read stories of people who have dated them because the Fi is just that suppressed within them. Regarding loyalty I personally have experienced and observed ISTJ and ENFP in relationships with INTJ many times. Si loyalty plus they share(and actually use) Te so they are less likely to be offended by this Quadrant's "mean streak" as opposed to others. Because I personally use te-fi I find these two types a bit easier to communicate with than say INFP or ESTJ who, I think, tend to rush to judgment a little too much for my tastes while lacking versatility. Not intended as an insult just explaining my own preferences. Anyways great work as always!
@SaraMBTI
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this insight! :)
@dystopiaincognito
8 ай бұрын
Napoleon was an ESFP, they're exspansive.
@dianadias3
2 жыл бұрын
Great insight.. Lately I have been struggling and reflecting on why people cheat... This helps me explain why
@SaraMBTI
2 жыл бұрын
In case you saw some pattern, be free to share it here :) People cheat for many other reasons and this could be the one but this is just one of the examples.. That topic you mentioned is also interesting and complex. I feel like I could talk about it✨ Thank you!
@dianadias3
2 жыл бұрын
@@SaraMBTI yeah, it is really interesting and it really just bogs my mind why would people do it.. Like why wouldn't they prefer to be honest and have an open relationship? I think they just really prefer to cheat, it gives more adrenaline.. a Power dinamic is in place.. Something that I not quite a fan of, but this video helped me understand.. I am very curious about why people cheat . So if you did a video on that, I would totally watch it :) Thank you 😊💖
@LevianPeace
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for you video. I'm an INFP and I have noticed the desire to conquer in all these types but they haven't bothered me because I see it happens with all Se types including all those in Beta as well. For Beta maybe the conquering has to do with charm, social positions and establishing hierarchy more than strong magnetic sexuality and personality like in Gamma types but it's still there. An examplen of this love conquer game in Beta is Dangerous Liaisons. As for Gammas I have observed in real life they will be unapologetic in upgrading or changing partners according to their levels or after they finish using them. In my country there's a famous ESFP woman who got famous by lambasting celebrities donation events and saying they were fraud. Later they found she got rich by marrying n divorcing a gangster and then stealing her sister's husband after meeting him once. Another example is an INTJ koi fish millionaire who went on a show praising his wife for supporting him 10 years so he can grow the koi fishes and then divorced the same wife 3 months later to marry a singer 13 years younger. Right now he goes on shows saying he smiles more with the new wife in the first month than he did in 10 years living with his ex-wife. The media in my country goes ballistic on these 2 but they still don't understand why the past matters. A personal example is an INTJ relative who abandoned her family after they immigrated to the US and went back to her country because living there was too lonely and hard. She cheated on her husband (my uncle) with a younger richer man in the country and lived with him for 20 years. Later after he died she went back to live in the US with my uncle all the while complaining about how my uncle doesn't treat her right and she has to spend money to buy groceries. Mind you she is buying groceries for her blood family, her daughter...and she's complaining to us, my uncle's relatives. She doesn't read the room and thinks people don't notice her past transgressions. That's a strange problem I see with Gamma. They have this fantasy they can bulldoze over people with display of wealth, capability and sincere feelings and it's all gonna be fine. Meanwhile these tone deaf moves just make them look stupid and dramatic.
@viola4029
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Sara, I was friend with an ESFP girl and I'm now a close friend of an ENTJ. I can see what you mean but I've only been closed to two person of that quadra so I can only give a rather vague observation. I've never observed a will to consciously have a person who is already in a relationship from the ESFP and the ENTJ I know. But they both definitely enjoy making an impression on others and can be vain... The ENTJ does indeed have a desire to "conquer" people the same he conquers his environment, his career etc. What I've also noticed is a deep need to be reassured about the intentions of others (in friendships or relationships) and paranoïa from time to time. So I feel they could be thinking : I'm gonna take over this girl from that guy (for exemple) before someone does the same to me. Could it be link to Te/Fi axes ?
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