Sorry to burst your AI bubble. But this is not AI (Artificial Intelligence). This is called an algorithm or decision tree.
@whiteman2371
5 ай бұрын
EXACTLY
@BrettGrady-vf4kx
4 ай бұрын
Does it matter? Surely the ROI is the only thing that matters?
@gordonross9492
5 ай бұрын
My experience is that the market changes too much for AI to predict future profits accurately. The info is useful but could also cloud very simple form approaches with good roi. Prices should be $10 per meeting Max.
@thecountofmontecristo8280
5 ай бұрын
It doesn't need to predict future profits, it needs to predict the probability of each horse winning a race more accurately than the market. Markets suffer the same factors that lead to stock market bubbles - price inaccurately reflecting valuation. Think about what happens when someone hears about a plunge horse and everyone smashes the price. Those factors create inaccuracies in markets. Another factor is the betting public generally knows who the best horses are in a race, but they don't know enough across all factors that determine a horse's chance to derive a probability that makes markets efficient. There is an entire army of punters that just bet favourites - think what that would do to distort prices? As long as we have inefficient markets, profits can be made be it by a human or a computer. I suspect though in time AI will enter the betting world and markets will become very efficient and the only real beneficiaries will be bookmakers.
@BrettGrady-vf4kx
4 ай бұрын
I know what you saying though...past profits as they say are a moderate at best indicator of future profits, as the market is adapting and becoming more efficient going forwards.
@chrismaligeorges4403
5 ай бұрын
yeah $30 per meet a bit steep
@juanh6334
5 ай бұрын
It's for suckers. You don't need AI to be a winning punter.
@landedthemoney
5 ай бұрын
I would be using it strategically. Obviously, can't rely on it for every meeting and every race. But $30 is decent imo, if you are a pro punter turning over a lot. Consider it a cost of doing business as a pro punter in working out which way the market is going to go.
@chemonro15
5 ай бұрын
@@landedthemoney why would a pro punter need this lol? think about what you are saying for a second
@rolyat093
5 ай бұрын
Vale the free competitions - now you need to spend $30 on sophisticated AI tips at a Dalby maiden to get a token to play 😂
@jimbobgary3
5 ай бұрын
@@LukeMaher-qr2yx started with the Ladbrokes association
@memesmith9700
4 ай бұрын
feel a bit "locked out" with the new update. I understand offering and paying from a premium tipping service though as a lot of hard work goes into form. its fair and good for people that don't have the time or knowledge. I would like the pack chat open to all free users though, not sure why that's locked out as it's just banter and showing off a few slips which is the social side of the den (the best part) I hardly posted, but liked to read the comments. I thought the social side of the den was the product? like a facebook for betting mixed with a bit of advertising and links to the bookies. integration with the bookies would be great also where you could bet through the den without clicking the link to the betting site, most betting sites have poor website phone links and logging in after is clunky + the password problem (could there be a commission opportunity there?). Just trying to help with some ideas, I'm a big fan of you guys and want the den to succeed. All the best
@DavidWebber-tf3ku
4 ай бұрын
I agree, thought I signed up to be part of a community. Pack chat was entertaining and good banter. Let’s see how this plays out over the next few weeks.
@lukoedits
5 ай бұрын
Yeah this is a move in the wrong direction, the den was a good place to chat with other punters and share tips/enter comps now it’s just another money hole…
@chemonro15
5 ай бұрын
@@LukeMaher-qr2yx of course it isnt lol, they take a bath every single stream lol
@dirkdiggler9174
4 ай бұрын
I’ll go back to an old man once said to me . Tipsters are failed punters . PERIOD !!
@martinsanchez4827
Ай бұрын
Usually agree, but we are talking about Kingsley Bartholomew. Pretty sure if you check his resume you would understand the hype.
@dirkdiggler9174
Ай бұрын
@@martinsanchez4827 Know all about Kingsley all to well mate . Been in the game nearly 30 years . Bets up to 4 or 5 runners in race all according to price and overs and spreads outlay accordingly to make a profit . New way of betting these days according to software . Not right or wrong but as for tipping my statement stands 😎
@micheltaouk7455
4 ай бұрын
The fact that every bookie Wolfden compares odds are affiliated with Wolfden. The fact that 7/10 Saturday Sets are about “will get them back next week” Ladbrokes SPONSORING Wolfden….. If they are so good, even with a %3 ROI they wouldn’t need any of this
@jimbobgary3
4 ай бұрын
Say it again for the ones in the back!
@bencowan9553
4 ай бұрын
Put $200 on recommended bets on Thursday when it was released. Result -$160. The winner that got up was a $2.00 fav. Joke.
@rolyat093
4 ай бұрын
You are sick lol
@herculespietersen9704
4 ай бұрын
SP and maps. Free info, lots of winners, no need to over complicate.
@Bradford7
4 ай бұрын
Most races are won by default. Horses who can respond to the circumstances going on around them end up winning by default. How on earth can any AI make any prediction with that in mind. The solution is bet only in races where you are sure the possible number of different cicumstances are extremely low and the price of your selection is above the odds. My selections on Sat were Think it Over, Tropical Squall, Hard to Say, Veight, Atishu.
@user-vd3rc5im9q
4 ай бұрын
How long did Dominic Beirne's Value bet service Last?
@josephharper5821
4 ай бұрын
Honestly bit of a shame the site has been monetised
@elduder2530
4 ай бұрын
Wheres the free trial?
@Addington56
4 ай бұрын
I've watched the Saturday session for a while now and four things have stuck out. (a) How little they each say for fear of being wrong. (b) They NEVER declare amounts of their bets. (c) The King hasn't won since Noah built the Ark. (d) A win/loss summary at days end is NEVER put up .....just the King declaring another losing day. Summary. It would be a lot more entertaining (and informative) if Richard pressed the boys harder for amounts bet on each horse and a summary of each of them at days end. Maybe a computer will improve the Kings ROI as he is that far behind the eight ball this year he will need a miracle (or a computer programme) to get him out of the hole he's dug himself into. Up the DEN ....but please adhere to the advice above to attract more viewers.
@PC-xv5uz
4 ай бұрын
Need more betting sessions, re wins losses..... fun to watch
@givesy123
5 ай бұрын
$120k per year? lol
@whiteman2371
5 ай бұрын
Hilarious isn't it
@jimbobgary3
5 ай бұрын
and the model at best returns 12%. so you're looking at a minimum $1m bank roll to break even
@ImFeelingLuckyComAu
4 ай бұрын
That's not how that works@@jimbobgary3- When you deposit your $25 on a Saturday, do you only bet the $25? Or would you turn over that money say 4 times? So your bank is $25, but you've turned over $100. So if you've got a 1m bank, a skilled punter could turn that over 5 times in a year comfortably. 5m * 12% = $600k.
@justincoughlan7984
4 ай бұрын
@@jimbobgary3 Technically, you'd need to turnover $1m, not have that be your bankroll. But I don't know who can spend $120k without at least $1m bankroll.
@jimbobgary3
4 ай бұрын
@@justincoughlan7984 Kingsley has said he bets on every race everyday. The model was tested in such a way. So yeah to get his quoted figures of 12% you're looking at a $1m turnover to break even
@tiatamara11
5 ай бұрын
I have a great idea for appraising racehorses that is not yet available worldwide....;maybe an app could be the go
@syco05
4 ай бұрын
2 or 3% less in 2023... Racing TAX 😞
@herculespietersen9704
4 ай бұрын
Well, yet again all sounds great initially, Wolfden by the punters for the punters. Now the $$$ kicks in, for the majority of us rec punters with mortgages, this is out of reach. These guys have large banks, zero mortgages and punt with freedom. This has now become inauthentic and unrelatable for the middle class. Sad stuff..
@happynow18
4 ай бұрын
Dont forget to click on the sponsored link 😂
@PC-xv5uz
5 ай бұрын
Sexual domination.... oh "sectional".......
@chemonro15
5 ай бұрын
you blokes sold your soul. not the wolfden i fell in love with a year ago, first ladbrokes and now this ai what a joke, no one needs this
@richardirvine5398
5 ай бұрын
Then move on.
@rolyat093
5 ай бұрын
@@richardirvine5398plenty will big boy! Everyone can see through your man of the people facade now 😂
@jimbobgary3
5 ай бұрын
they say they're "for the punter" but they provide a code for Ladbrokes sign up. So they take $30 per meeting for AI, plus they get 30% of your losses. great business model
@rolyat093
5 ай бұрын
@@richardirvine5398deleting comments 😂 plonker
@chemonro15
5 ай бұрын
@@richardirvine5398 have done pal, unsubscribed youtube and stopped following on spotify. ciao
@tiatamara11
5 ай бұрын
Fangirl Hinged and Kovalica to win ....Lindemann 2nd behind Fangirl.
@user-vd3rc5im9q
4 ай бұрын
camilleri is the only decent tipster on here
@AG-hy9fg
4 ай бұрын
The fizzer is the dark horse but we don't hear enough from him, need to move some chairs around give the guy a voice
@JanBailey-dq2fb
4 ай бұрын
Hahahaha
@maxkennedy1162
4 ай бұрын
The negativity in this comment section is a bit unfair. If you don"t want to pay you don't have to. The only thing i have seen that i agree with is there needs to be a free trial and that pack chat not being free hurts the overall experience.
@jimbobgary3
4 ай бұрын
I've been around since the early days. Everything was "were here for the punters" "we want you winning and your money is better off in your pocket for punting" now it's "we have a model developed by 4 punters with a collective bankroll of $20m plus and we want $30 per meeting" It's a bit of a slap on the face of the average Joe punter.
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