No, it's absolutely ridiculous that it'll stick with 60hz. If that trend continues, I am switching to Samsung Ultra phones and pointing middle finger to greedy company that is Apple. The base model of s20 series back in 2020 has 120hz and you're telling me that 800$ phone in 2024 will stick to 60? No.
@TailosiveTech
10 ай бұрын
Bet
@Raja995mh33
10 ай бұрын
You're switching from a you're-calling greedy company into the next one. What a move dude. As if 120Hz was the only feature in a smartphone.
@Embrace7
10 ай бұрын
@@Raja995mh33 You don't seem to understand the point. I don't truly care about 120hz, I care about an expensive phone providing me the option to choose as I please. If I want to use 120hz, I will. If I feel like I wanna save battery, I'll go for 60. It's all about versatility. My friend has 14 pro max and he switches between 60 and 120 and that's what every iPhone needs to have from now on. iPhone 15 plus could easily support the same feature, but they're doing it for marketing reasons. That's greed my friend.
@retrogaminggenesis6102
10 ай бұрын
The budget Samsung models even have it. A Pixel 7a has more features than a flagship iPhone and that's insulting to the consumer.
@retrogaminggenesis6102
10 ай бұрын
@@Raja995mh33there are no options left really outside of Motorola, Pixel, Galaxy, and iPhone. Definitely a greedy company but it's definitely got more features for your money. Apple you pay for the ecosystem and for some people it isn't worth it.
@smartphonefan5226
10 ай бұрын
I am going to keep it real with you, this is the definition of shilling for Apple. For $829 and $929, there is absolutely no excuse for Apple to use a 60 Hz refresh rate. Because the price of the regular iPhones are high, the average consumer dissent care argument does not work. If these phones were to be within the $500 to $600 range, the tech community wouldn’t be as critical.
@retrogaminggenesis6102
10 ай бұрын
Yeah I feel like he's really gone from "this is why Apple is so great" to "don't criticize Apple or I'll get mad". Apple can do wrong and still be someone's favorite.
@justcallme_tom
10 ай бұрын
Good luck finding millions of high quality 120Hz displays. It’s easy to put one in an Android phone whenever any model will sell in tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of units. It’s all about logistics.
@smartphonefan5226
10 ай бұрын
@@retrogaminggenesis6102Exactly. Don’t get me wrong, I respect Drew, but I do have to call him out when he knows that this is wrong. I remembered how much push back Samsung got when they tried it on the Note20 three years ago. Of course, that did not end well for Samsung due to the Note20 being overpriced for what it offered compared to the Note20 Ultra.
@sly2792004
10 ай бұрын
Watch more of his videos then cause I’ve been getting more of he does t care for apple and their products anymore vibe
@andyH_England
10 ай бұрын
Some people may say that Samsung charging even more for 1080p on the £1050 S23+ is even worse as a few years ago everyone was blasting not having QHD; it was a sin against the world to be 1080p. Of course, it wasn't, it was great marketing and easy to distort the reality of youth. I feel this is the same with 120Hz. Just marketing and the reality is that it is far from life-changing or important for most of us that just pick up our phone to use it. N.B. It is of course the classic upgrade trick. 120Hz will change your life so upgrade the $1000 phone you only bought last year.
@retrogaminggenesis6102
10 ай бұрын
Mid-Range Android devices have 90Hz and some 120Hz. Apple just wants to differentiate the Pro more, which I get from a business standpoint but blows from a consumer standpoint. Kind of like sticking Macs with 8GB of non-upgradable RAM. No reason either should be a thing but it helps them sell higher models and configurations.
@jph.j5183
10 ай бұрын
Apple doesn't care about refresh rate bruh it's such a low concern to it. Androids are slow and glitch slot that's probably why they add the higher refresh rate but iPhones don't so they aren't motivated to do so.
@arapetrosyan3339
10 ай бұрын
Apple is the only company that doesn't care that much about others. For 99percent iPhone user don't care what androids have, only they care is iOS which worth much more than 120hz. Watch apple events they compare their iPhones with the previous generation and take a look at Samsung or Xiaomi they compare their phones with iPhones. Even if you want 120hz why are you angry that base models doesn't have 120hz. If you want it Apple gives you option if you don't like it go buy 400 dollar android which has 120hz.
@retrogaminggenesis6102
10 ай бұрын
@@jph.j5183 you're either bright as a burnt bulb or sniffing your own rear til your nose is brown to be saying that.
@AnotherDay-ce6th
6 ай бұрын
@@jph.j5183 average brain less applesheep who used a higher rate display before and anything other tha iTrash
@yamsbeans
3 ай бұрын
@@jph.j5183 then why do they have 120hz on the pros?
@PedroBastozz
10 ай бұрын
Honestly, the only reason I always buy the pro models and not regular ones is because of 120hz.
@Aggie4life77
10 ай бұрын
Most people would say the camera and 120hz with camera being the biggest thing.
@retrogaminggenesis6102
10 ай бұрын
That's why Apple won't add it to regular iPhones
@hmorris
10 ай бұрын
Same here
@brandonlee7382
8 ай бұрын
You do also get the better cameras and slightly thinner more futuristic bezels and also better specs. 60hz is more than enough for people who dont understand these specs. Sometimes I turn battery saving on and sometimes weeks down the lane I remember to turn battery saving off then realising I was using my Samsung S23 ultra in 60hz the whole time by accident. When we are focusing on using our phones for tasks our brains are good at filling in the gabs. Not sure if this is a good example but 24hz films still look totally OK but I geuss our displays do smooth that out a bit so probably not a fair comparison Also this youtube video isn't running in 120hz
@AnotherDay-ce6th
6 ай бұрын
And dumbo video playback frame and gpu rendering frames are two different things. 120hz will feel smoother anyday.@@brandonlee7382
@Marngel
10 ай бұрын
I can see Apple with the iPhone 17 add LTPO displays for the entry level models and enable features like the Always On Display and better energy efficiency, which is something that average users might actually enjoy. But I believe they’ll still be capped at 60 hz, both to keep the Pro models feel exclusive, but also to keep the tech community angry and recommend the pro models instead.
@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4
10 ай бұрын
If they already have LTPO, they should probably at least have 90Hz. Maybe the always on display is just black and no wallpaper because it is just 10Hz, not 1Hz
@dylanmckeon6897
6 күн бұрын
I see that the 17 Pro models I predict will have the 240hz refresh rate compared to the 120hz base model. This will be known as ProMotion 2.
@hotsos8162
10 ай бұрын
If that's your argument why did apple put a high refresh rate display in the Pro iPhones? Most of the "Pro" iPhone buyers are casual users too, they won't notice it too, right? No. They gave an LTPO display because it's just better and makes the experience much smoother the rage you find about the because the people find apple approach in making this exclusive for the Pro iPhones is completely ridiculous. Nothing is "Pro" about a smoother experience. And by the way this is an 800 dollar phone is not cheap by any means, and apple has no right to not give it to people who want it.
@TailosiveTech
10 ай бұрын
Apple has no right to make a phone with 60Hz? 😂
@jacobg.witmer
10 ай бұрын
11 Pro Max user here. I’ve tried out the iPhone 14 Pros and have seen 120hz and I know for a fact it doesn’t change nor impact how I use my iPhone at all. So I’m just gonna keep using my 11 Pro Max till it doesn’t work no more.
@jessewest1333
10 ай бұрын
Honestly, Im at the point where Im seeing my phone as an appliance because realistically speaking I also have an 11pm and even though a 15pm would be nice, objectively speaking my phone works fine and all it needs is a battery change. So until I start to see issues with my phone’s hardware and software limitations I’m not fixing it cuz it ain’t broken . Is it just me or won’t phones last much longer the better the technology gets?
@gotthecutenessoverload1086
10 күн бұрын
You're one of those idiots who think there's no difference between 30fps and 60fps in games, aren't you?
@Luma_29
10 ай бұрын
Listen I love Apple as much as the next guy but for the monstrous price of over $700 60hz shouldn’t even be a question. 90 at LEAST for this price point
@GarbanzoBeansFan
10 ай бұрын
this is feeling like the 828p argument of the XR from back then
@davidbelecci6970
10 ай бұрын
They don’t have to give it ProMotion, they can have 60/90Hz semi-adaptive SmoothMotion whatever.
@jessewest1333
10 ай бұрын
And our wallet would be hit by 👏🏾👏🏾 👏🏾👏🏾a smooth criminal.
@MA-jz4yc
8 ай бұрын
But then less people will be inclined to shell out for the 13 pro. Cant have that can we
@just_mdd4
2 ай бұрын
SmoothMotion ❎ FluidMotion ✅
@GreatOne0815
10 ай бұрын
To be fair, those cheap Android phones with 120 Hz have also much bigger batteries compared to the iPhones.
@simpgodrudy
10 ай бұрын
Frankie for CEO??! 100% 🙋🏽♂️🙋🏽♂️🙋🏽♂️
@4js123
10 ай бұрын
why cant they at least put 90 HZ
@davide2268
10 ай бұрын
LTPO tech would help battery life but apple would still limit it to 60hz.
@micahwilgus
10 ай бұрын
That makes no sense. If the display is limited to 60hz then why include that tech? LTPO allows it to go down to 1HZ. You’re not utilizing that display tech if you limit it to a fixed refresh rate
@AJ56
10 ай бұрын
60hz felt like sandpaper to my eyes on the 12 pro max from the day it launched and I bought it, a full year before I’d even seen 120hz on a phone. 13 pro max is the perfect phone even after 2 years, pro motion is huge to me, very noticeable. Interestingly on my 6s 60hz wasn’t nearly as noticeable as it was on the 12 pro max, smaller screen likely.
@sly2792004
10 ай бұрын
I’ve got 14 pro max and 12 pro max and don’t notice any difference
@AJ56
10 ай бұрын
@@sly2792004 very strange. Try switching low power mode on and swipe a little and turn it off on your 14 pro max. Don’t tell me you can’t feel a massive difference in smoothness.
@fallennoob3881
10 ай бұрын
@@sly2792004 try going back to 60 Hz
@andyH_England
10 ай бұрын
I have an iPhone 11PM and 60Hz is not ever been a topic of conversation. Mostly I barely touch 120Hz as most of the apps I use do not need it; like navigation, music, reading, typing, watching stuff, and opening apps for quick info like mail. I do not game like the majority so the benefit from 120Hz is nominal for me.
@AJ56
10 ай бұрын
@@andyH_England it’s not just for gaming, I hardly use my phone for gaming, I have my console for that. 120hz is used literally every single second since your phone is unlocked from swiping to typing to scrolling to opening apps, it makes the entire display feel liquid smooth.
@johnnyblaze5551
10 ай бұрын
iPhone 13 regular here and I love it
@dereka5310
10 ай бұрын
I was hoping they would at least add 90hz if not 120hz. It doesn't even have to have promotion technology, just name it something different. And give it 3.1 USBC speeds at the minimum. Upgrading from 12, might just go with one of the pros lol
@Pedro145a
10 ай бұрын
that's the point of it lol so you can go for the pros
@dereka5310
10 ай бұрын
@@Pedro145a yeah I have a feeling the next iphones are going to finally be the ones to stump me lol. been trying to future proof a lot of tech purchases recently
@mirzarizwanbaig9449
10 ай бұрын
I've been iOS user since 2013 and currently using iPhone 14 Plus (60hz). fans needs to stop justifying 60hz in 2023-2024 when $200 android 🤖 can offer 90hz at least..
@Pedro145a
10 ай бұрын
he made the argument of they use cheap displays but for 4x the price you can definitely afford a better display lol
@mirzarizwanbaig9449
10 ай бұрын
@@Pedro145a Well, if his argument is that display is cheap. in that case the best display maker in the industry that is Samsung offered 120hz on base S20 series back in 2020.
@jacksonburger2081
10 ай бұрын
Using price is not a valid reason (there's $400 phones with ltpo). However, I think we can all agree that there's not much difference between regular and pro iPhones, so Apple is using this as a differentiating factor. This is what this video should have been about.
@MapleEmpire
10 ай бұрын
the reason is capitalism, profit, not because "oh a random joe doesn't know difference between 60hz and 120hz, we should accommodate for him"
@jacksonburger2081
10 ай бұрын
@@MapleEmpirebut because they don't know the difference, Apple can save money by leaving it out (capitalism)
@AnonN-sr6uu
9 ай бұрын
@@MapleEmpire you don't know anything about anything. It's because of capitalism you have wifi, a smartphone, the internet and all of mankind's intelligence in your pocket, a car, etc. Go learn about how the world really works before running your mouth and being ignorant ingrate.
@mikem2132
9 ай бұрын
It seems like the 5w charger was better for battery health too, I don’t remember any of my previous phones being at 88% after one year.
@Aggie4life77
10 ай бұрын
I owned the 14 Pro Max for about 6 months and then had to go back to the iPhone 13. Did I notice the difference yes, but it was very minimal. To be honest, the biggest things I missed was the size and third camera. I like 120 hz and want it when I get the 16 Pro Max, but I absolutely understand that the average person will give 2 sh*ts about it. People don’t realize that most people don’t debate with iPhones vs Androids when they purchase unless they are intentionally switching from one to the other.
@coreyburns2074
10 ай бұрын
As a iPhone 13 user and a 14pm user yes there is a difference for sure but the 60hz isn’t bad by any means it’s still buttery smooth like he said the majority of people don’t care but being as I’m a smartphone junky I actually appreciate the 120
@Gabri3lRocha
10 ай бұрын
This is why I’m still subscribed to drew for about 5 years now. Always opening my eyes to see things from an outside the box perspective. I wish apple did an iphone with 120hz without pro camera sensors but I totally get why they wouldn’t. They are a business after all and all the choices they’ve made is the reason they are the richest company in the world right now
@isthatso1961
10 ай бұрын
Quite a polite way to say they put profit first before their customers. 😂
@Gabri3lRocha
10 ай бұрын
@@isthatso1961 haha if they didn’t profit first they would go out of business 😂😂😂. Little middle schoolers these days
@ErickNagaya
10 ай бұрын
That's why the world is burning. Money is everything. "Hey this company is being an asshole and are exploiting it's advantages and market position to a point that is no good for anyone but themselves... Oh nevermind, they're a for profit company so all is ok 👍." . That's what you're saying.
@Gabri3lRocha
10 ай бұрын
@@ErickNagaya people vote with their wallets and approve of apples choices that’s why apples is at the position they are otherwise we wouldn’t be talking right now. You’re not a fan of apples philosophy and that’s okay. Good thing we have choices like android 🤢🤢
@ErickNagaya
10 ай бұрын
@@Gabri3lRocha Apple being popular is not the same as them doing the right thing. Sure, people "vote" them with their wallets, but people does stupid shit all the time.
@Andsix
10 ай бұрын
Once they get you to buy the Pro iPhone with 120HZ, they have you trapped to buying the Pro iPhone for every upgrade so you don’t switch back the to the regular iPhone.
@paidhotspot
10 ай бұрын
i feel like apple is gonna wait and do something insane with the pros like 240Hz so then they can add 120Hz on the regular iphones, that way the higher refresh rate is still considered "ProMotion"
@burnttoast9890
8 ай бұрын
Sure buddy
@cidsx
9 ай бұрын
Gonna be honest. It's not that a lot of people "don't care." Nearly everyone notices high refresh rate, but they just don't know what exactly it is that they're noticing; they just think that it's "smoother." They have no idea what "ProMotion" or "120 hz" means, but they do notice how much smoother the high refresh rate phones are. I showed 60 and 120 to my mom the other day and she said that it was "faster" because of how smooth it is. Even though the iPhone still feels smooth at 60 hz, it still sucks compared to 120 hz. It's an expectation in 2023 and 2024.
@SpawnWaveMedia
10 ай бұрын
This is the ONLY person, aside from MKBHD that I've seen on KZitem that likes Apple products...…but tells it like it is, without the Apple Fanboy brainwash filter. And to avoid a waste of replies, I too like Apple products...…and I'm posting this in support of the honesty and hard work of this particular KZitem creator. Peace & Love 🕊
@maxk8482
9 ай бұрын
bro the star wars comparison got me😂
@santiagolopez2166
2 ай бұрын
I think they are waiting to the 10th anniversary of the first samsung mid-range phone with 120hz.
@theunboxingchannel885
10 ай бұрын
Bro I’ll have to disagree with you on this one. No 120hz on an $829 phone is absurd!
@GarbanzoBeansFan
10 ай бұрын
FRANKIE FOR APPLE CEO!!! 🙋🏾🙋🏾
@igorcosta5482
10 ай бұрын
Only pro users will even notice/complain, but I, too, think it’s a shame that Apple is charging 800 for a 60hz phone and 1000 for a 60hz notebook.
@themightyavenger1023
10 ай бұрын
To be fair, you could argue that 90% of this stuff applies to USB-C ports on iPhones, as I’ve never heard a single non-techie complain about the Lightning port, but you made like 200000 videos talking about how Apple had to switch to USB-C. The vast majority of people don’t move data between their phones and a computer, and most people don’t seem to mind carrying around an one little extra wire; a lot of people probably don’t even know what USB-C is Not to mention that they now have to replace 11 years worth of accessories
@andyH_England
10 ай бұрын
Yes, true enough. I taped a USBC and Lightning cable together so I never forget to have both, and for years you can have cables with Lightning and USBC! I admit there is 10% or less that find USBC more useful, but the rest of us are fine; ditto 60Hz.
@xyz-ml9ff
10 ай бұрын
Exactly, apple puts alot of tech in their phones that the average person doesn't care about
@WybremGaming
10 ай бұрын
No, that's not oke, and if they do, ill move to Android for the first time ever. I'm not paying more. iPhones are already overpriced as is as they have crappy oled displays without DC dimming, something found on some of the most basic of Androids, just like 120hz. I love Apple's products but they're iPhone is easy to ditch as they use the cheapest and most crappy displays anyway. PWM oled.
@TailosiveTech
10 ай бұрын
I don’t believe any of you saying you’ll switch to Android 😂
@retrogaminggenesis6102
10 ай бұрын
Oh wow I wasn't aware of the DC Dimming.
@WybremGaming
10 ай бұрын
@@TailosiveTech I mean I have to. I cannot use my iPhone 12 or barely (currently brightness always at 100% and dim manually in accessibility settings white point). Which is a horrible experience. And as of late, a few years, I get bad migraines from flashes. Just got a new AW as well so it's really not my first choice but if Apple continues to make crappy displays I cannot use their devices.
@WybremGaming
10 ай бұрын
@@retrogaminggenesis6102 for 99.2% of the people it's a non issue. But for me, i recently developed severe migraine. And I get them from bight light, strobing light, strong scents, dirty homes among other things. So I have a workaround but that only works on the 12. The iPhone 11 was the last iPhone with DC dimming and that's getting real old. I would've upgraded already if not for this issue. I'm tired of having to adjust brightnes 20x a day. No shortcut for it, nothing.
@retrogaminggenesis6102
10 ай бұрын
@@TailosiveTechI did. I still have a Mac Pro I use as a server and for backing up family's Macs/iPhone, and I even still use my iPod Touch 4 frequently. I ended up switching back to Android for phone and tablet (the tablet was a mistake but that's cause I went with Lenovo instead of Samsung) because I got fed up with them.
@MorbidGod391
10 ай бұрын
Also Drew needs to buy a Apple Vision Pro for his brother 😂
@SWOBIZ
10 ай бұрын
Apple offers a range of features at multiple price points, included refurbished phones. Sounds like a good deal for customers.
@JCee3223
10 ай бұрын
I mean for $829....it better have a higher refresh rate.
@ArturMarinhoFeV
10 ай бұрын
The thing is: they absolutely could do it. Call it fluid motion or something and grab the 13 lineup’s screens which are promotion but only down to 10hz (not 1hz like 14 and onwards) and call it a day. “Everyday people don’t notice” isn’t an argument because guess what? There are enthusiasts out there who really want a better screen but CAN’T afford to pay for the pros. All you KZitemrs always talk about how people who buy regular iPhones don’t notice, but always forget to mention that there are less fortunate enthusiasts out there as well. Not everyone can (or even wants) to spend 1000$+ on a new phone to get BASIC features you can get at much cheaper price points. And yes, I’d say in 2023, considering we had 120hz on the pro line 2 whole years ago, it is very basic.
@qwinn9963
10 ай бұрын
1000€ fot 60hz... How can somebody be a casual user that just want to chat and having phone calls yet still spends 1000€ for it :/
@stevegresock5939
10 ай бұрын
YOU NAILED IT!! I have a IPhone 13 Pro its is a overkill for what I use the phone for. I should have brought the IPhone 13. GREAT VIDEO!!
@retrogaminggenesis6102
10 ай бұрын
Everything but calling is overkill but it's nice to have something a $300 Android has
@ethanmenzel
10 ай бұрын
What's your stance on OLED on the nonpro iPhones? They should never have brought OLED to the nonpros and kept the phone at 60hz
@retrogaminggenesis6102
9 ай бұрын
Asking to be shafted 😐
@ieditedmyname289
9 ай бұрын
Would be a good option if the phones were priced at $399, not $829.
@ryanmacnab1606
10 ай бұрын
120hz on phones means nothing to people other than KZitemrs. Can we stop with the narrative that 60hz is bad.
@retrogaminggenesis6102
10 ай бұрын
Smoother UI, videoplayback, and gaming. It's not "bad" but it's cheaping out.
@tomkostolom6559
10 ай бұрын
What are you on about? It makes a massive difference every time you interact with your phone
@retrogaminggenesis6102
10 ай бұрын
@@tomkostolom6559I'll never go back. Staying is easy going back is hard.
@AJ56
10 ай бұрын
60hz is downright terrible, one would have to be blind to not notice it.
@radius4914
10 ай бұрын
I literally notice the second I touch a device with 120hz!! 60hz is bad.
@ridersama4758
9 ай бұрын
I think that at least, the entry level iPhones should have 90hz ltpo. Not 120 hz though. I don't agree with that
@Kuraudo_VII
10 ай бұрын
Thank you. For some reasons some people just doesn't understand that there are people out there who doesn't care about 120hz at all. I have a 14 pro max and the only time I experienced with 120hz was when I found a toggle for it in the Pokemon Go settings. Yes it made the graphics much smoother and it was interesting for like an hour, but when I started to notice that my battery was going down noticeably quicker, I turned it off and never bothered with it again. And outside of gaming I honestly can't tell if the screen is going at 60 or 120. Coming from a 11 pro max which doesn't have pro motion, honestly I don't see a difference at all. And since my 11 pro max has my other sim as backup, I do use it from time to time, and I never once felt a difference in screen quality. Non of that "Oh 120hz is so smooth now I can't go back to 60hz" bs.
@KylieWagner
10 ай бұрын
100% my iPhone 15 plus is amazing and I upgraded from a 13 pro. Don’t miss the 120hz at all
@retrogaminggenesis6102
10 ай бұрын
I refuse to go back on PC but on mobile you can definitely live. For the price though it's a shame Apple shorts their customers.
@Ashlord
10 ай бұрын
The S24 and S24+ are rumored to have LTPO technology, and they’re the same price as the iPhones…
@TailosiveTech
10 ай бұрын
Samsung is their own manufacturer so they give themselves a lower price obviously
@TimJ201
9 ай бұрын
they already have LTPO i thought
@Ashlord
9 ай бұрын
@@TimJ201 Nope, just the Ultra. They have another refresh scaling tech, but it only goes down to 24 hz
@TimJ201
9 ай бұрын
@@Ashlord ah didn’t know that
@kuremaClaimer
10 ай бұрын
I'm fine with 60Hz but the fact that 799$ phone do not support 120Hz prove that going Apple isn't a good choice.
@Antoto96
10 ай бұрын
I vote for Frenkie to be CEO ✋🏼
@JackTheBlack1585
10 ай бұрын
Apple 700$ phone with 60hz and that’s fine and throw every excuse in the books… but android 400$ phone with 60hz and everyone goes mad.
@Zaidoesstuff
10 ай бұрын
The iPhone 16 should have at least 90hz
@andyH_England
10 ай бұрын
Having 60hz is not the end of the world; we have been living with 60Hz, mostly less, 24hz on TVs, for decades. I think it is the youth market getting too tied up in spec-chasing and YT creators looking to flex against Apple for clicks and cash. You look at all the silly Macbook reviews with all the tests and then look for people doing the same to Windows laptops, and there are none. Because Windows OEMs pay millions as sponsorships as they have 91% of the market. So Apple is an easy target as it doesn't pay creators. It is very simple. If 120Hz is what drives you to get out of bed in the morning, buy a phone with 120Hz. Apple offers the Pro for those people. Or buy Android. If you do not notice 60Hz or don't care, like many of us, then buy it or not. The consumer has the choice to buy it, and Apple chooses to sell a 60Hz phone. The fact Apple makes 85% of the smartphone profits tells you it knows what it is doing (upselling) and the crazy world of know-it-all social media maybe should understand that Apple does what is does knowing exactly what it is doing and why!
@xyz-ml9ff
10 ай бұрын
Tim??
@doomy_doomy2225
10 ай бұрын
No one cares about pro motion. Average consumer would always get confused when selling them that and the 60hz on the iPhone is normally smoother than the budget 120hz screens when I sold them IMO
@andrear8540
4 ай бұрын
bro, please don't say "that's okay" because if you say that then Apple will never give a higher refresh rate to the iPhone base model, ask Apple because the more criticism and input there is, Apple will think about it and maybe start implementing it, even if you don't problem with 60hz but if apple gives 120hz that is also good for you right? and it's not just good for you but for other people who really want it
@Shumittsu
10 ай бұрын
iPhone 60Hz > Android 120Hz Android 120Hz < iPhone 120Hz So I am still fine with 60Hz iPhones since they feel better than 90% of android displays with 120Hz
@alonzogreat1728
10 ай бұрын
Apple can definitely make the iPhone 90Hz
@getataste
10 ай бұрын
can't believe i wasn't subscribed i have been enjoying those skits a lot lately they have a nikocado avocado vibe
@gogrape9716
2 ай бұрын
60 SUCKS. No Sale.... After I had a 120 Hrtz iPhone there is no going back to 60. That includes iPads and iMacs. 120 Hrtz or no sale...
@benjaminlopez0629
10 ай бұрын
Love this video 100% with you Took my wife to the Apple Store have her try and play with the phones and she end it up getting the 15 plus she didn’t even care about the pros
@twixxtro
7 күн бұрын
that is NOT ok there are literally androids that cost less than half than the 16 pro that have 120hz
@andriytroyan3888
10 ай бұрын
I can guarantee that my whole family has no idea what promotion is. My dad who has the 13 pro is more interested in the camera than about the pro motion.
@codyhayes3920
9 ай бұрын
The tech community is pissed because the standard iPhone is over priced like yes as a average user the refresh rate won’t be noticeable unless it’s really slow however considering it’s a 800 dollar phone it should have atleast a 90hz display if not higher and if not because it’s a “standard” they should lower the price that so it reflects its slower refresh rate and
@Metatronics-tk9eo
4 ай бұрын
Terrible 60Hz ! Now is 2024 !
@gagikadz5607
2 ай бұрын
2025 😂
@KARMA-wz2nj
9 ай бұрын
iPhones don’t need 120hzs to be smooth android does
@PhoneRebelOfficial
10 ай бұрын
That's OK because it's a phone made by Apple, and people ONLY buy iPhones because of the logo and don't really care about the functionality of the phone itself. If it was any other phone brand, this would be a huge problem, but Apple has positioned themselves in a way that people who buy their phones don't even care at all about the phone itself, but only care about the brand that made the phone. Apple users view the money that they spend towards buying a new iPhone as just an investment of getting something that has an Apple logo. It's a status symbol.
@s4fy44n6
10 күн бұрын
Can they just not make 60hz default, but have the option to change it to 90hz or 120hz?
@TailosiveTech
10 күн бұрын
Probably, but would likely not be turned on by 90% of users, despite adding more to the cost
@flamesword300
10 ай бұрын
The people complaining about 60HZ iPhones and talking about cheap android phones having 90+HZ displays aren’t going to buy either. They’re going to buy a flagship Android or IOS device that has 120HZ. Cheap android phones(not all but some)that have 90+HZ often lag and aren’t great experience because of the chipset they use. Like the Pixel Slates Intel Celuron version. Plus to have that that fast refresh screen they cut corners elsewhere to keep prices lower. Such as lower ram,storage, and more.
@D1AM0NDD
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's kinda why the SE is somewhat respectible, it focuses heavily on quality over quantity.
@xyz-ml9ff
10 ай бұрын
Android lagging propaganda in 2023? Lol ok
@full_metal2452
9 ай бұрын
The big story he’s not talking about: Why the iPhone 15 battery is degrading so fast
@BaconFaceMcGee
6 ай бұрын
I notice a difference between 60 and 120 HZ, but I don’t care a lot about it. I wouldn’t complain if I had a display that is 120 Hz.
@oneymar3861
20 күн бұрын
60Hz in 2024 is not okay...
@ieditedmyname289
9 ай бұрын
That’s why your growth has been nonexistent and viewership has been declining. There is NO good reason for them to not ship the 120 hz display in this price point. This has the same merit as “our 8 GB RAM is like other computers 16 GB”. Nothing but cash grab from them.
@tomkostolom6559
10 ай бұрын
It's not ok it's literally robbery
@retrogaminggenesis6102
10 ай бұрын
Not robbery but definitely cheap as heck. Like 8GB of RAM in the MacBooks.
@TailosiveTech
10 ай бұрын
Literally isn’t
@WybremGaming
10 ай бұрын
@@TailosiveTech At the very least it's creating e-waste on purpose, I cringe again when I think of their mother nature act, what nature, Apple is a e-waste company like pretty much all others. The EU needs to regulate the f-ck out of this American UBER capitalism big tech. Glad they're working on that. Tesla same story, glad they f-cked around and found out in Northern Europe.
@pallettownbry
10 ай бұрын
I started the video thinking, “Drew might be shilling in this one,” but ended the video agreeing with you, mostly. When I look at my family members, majority of them do not care and do not notice 120hz. I’m the tech geek of the family with every major smartphone imaginable and it seems I’m the only person who cares about 120hz. I bought my wife a 13 Pro Max when it released and she didn’t notice 120hz so much so that she always had her phone on LPM, which disables 120hz. She’s now on the iPhone 15 and doesn’t care that 120hz is lacking, she just wanted a smaller device and wanted the, “pretty blue color.” My mom is in the same boat. I just recently bought her an iPhone 15 Pro, an upgrade from her 12, and all she cares about and notices is the overall speed difference in performance and the updated camera. She couldn’t even tell the refresh rate difference until I held the phones side by side to show her and even then she didn’t care 😂 the average consumer genuinely doesn’t care about high refresh rate displays and since apple decided to market their version of 120hz as pro motion, I doubt we will see it on the base variants any time soon…
@TimJ201
9 ай бұрын
yeah even a tech person like me barely noticesit and I have it turned off on my samsung because I want the better batterylife and don't care about it being a little bit more smooth
@figeon
10 ай бұрын
I literally don’t care about 60 Hz. We’re surrounded every day by screens that can only go up to 60 Hz, and nobody cares about those screens. But for an iPhone it’s for some reason the worst thing imaginable to not have 120 Hz!
@ryanmacnab1606
10 ай бұрын
Agreed! People only care about 120hz because KZitemrs tell them they should 😂
@retrogaminggenesis6102
10 ай бұрын
You FAM buy a $300 phone with it expected standard but an $800 phone doesn't come with it. Be like if the latest Tesla lacked AC.
@chucky1golf
8 ай бұрын
PWM flickering on Apple iPhones makes alot of people feel ill and dizzy. Something Apple needs to address.
@100juggs
5 ай бұрын
Apple ain’t putting 120 hz in the base models no time soon because then there would be no reason to buy the pro
@debojitmandal8670
10 ай бұрын
Counter number 1 ltps display can be made to refresh bw 60 and 120 sure unlike ltpo which can refresh all the way bw 120-1 ranze i.e 119,118,117...90,...60....1 .Ltps can atleast switch bw 120 and 60 so content which supports 120 it will be 120 else stuck at 60 or when u don't scroll the web it's at 60 when u scroll it will kick 120.Even current iPhone stuck at 60 when ur not scrolling is still stuck at 60
@agprime
10 ай бұрын
For real, you are saying 60 hz for a $800 or $900 phone is "OK" 😂😂😂😂 man, just stop it. Please stop it. This is ridiculously ridiculous. It sounds like you are simping for Apple 😂😂😂 this is the type of guy who defends 8GB Ram on a $1500 macbook 😂😂😂
@RiqMoran
10 ай бұрын
It's really not ok... And thats ok. ✋Make frankie ceo.
@michele_
5 ай бұрын
I might be an alien but I definitely notice the jump between 60 and 90hz... I hate 60hz so much and I hoped the 16 would finally have that 90/120hz display and possibly brighter also
@michele_
5 ай бұрын
Also i don't care if it's ltpo or not...
@JamesR624
9 ай бұрын
I mean, no, it really isn't but sure. I guess gotta get the fanboys back somehow.
@D1AM0NDD
10 ай бұрын
I doubt average person everyone describes wants to spend $800 on a new iPhone to begin with, but that doesnt mean they have to upcharge for the people who do want the features. My dad still wonders why all his apple devices use different ports or why he cant zoom in as far on his iPhone 12 as his older Samsung s9. For reference, he still asks me how to get to his recent apps. The "average person" everyone describes is clearly not a unified idea and you should let the consumer decide if it makes a difference or not. 120hz is standard, it's not a question. Its an insult and a big slap in the face to anyone owning an iPhone that spending $800 is still not enough to get the complete experience. The pros should not overshadow the cons if there is general room for improvement and especially when such upgrade does exist, but is locked behind software or pure greed.
@UteGirlz
10 ай бұрын
I'm just pissed that we don't have 8K 240Hz panels.
@todberry5068
10 ай бұрын
No excuses, they gotta make all the iPhones 120 Hz
@MultiNakir
12 күн бұрын
it's NOT ok, i have 120hz on my phones since 2020 this is ridiculous it's just milking a stupid fanbase and the oled is not enough ... 60hz on the macbook air is fine to keep costs low, less animations less jiggery but this new iphone is as much as an macbook air and it's A PHONE
@MXALOVE
10 ай бұрын
Cheap android phones can have a high refresh rate because it is extremely cheap to do. All new monitors regardless of price have 120 or more. Apple's tech is just better.
@D1AM0NDD
10 ай бұрын
Doesn't apple outsource their screens?
@retrogaminggenesis6102
10 ай бұрын
Apple's is better despite the Galaxy A50 series having better screens at half the cost?
@TimJ201
9 ай бұрын
@@D1AM0NDD yeas samsung makes their screens and apple "improves" it
@DJHill
10 ай бұрын
Would 90hz be a good compromise? The fact that aople won't at least consider 90 is just pure greed. And I'm sorry, defending a company selling you less for more, despite what the "average consumer" notices or not, is pure bootlicking behavior.
@leomarkf
10 ай бұрын
IT’S NOT OKAY!
@leomarkf
10 ай бұрын
Those people who say it’s okay in 2024 are the same people who glorify America and say it’s okay to have expensive healthcare because it is America. Capitalism is fucking you and you like it. Go outside and touch the grass.
@nicolascalixto7840
2 ай бұрын
Its Time to switch to Android!!!
@AlexOnKeys
10 ай бұрын
Frankie for Apple CEO !
@daltonwildes2215
10 ай бұрын
Disneys star wars is one of my favorite things to watch. Their series have been amazing such as andor and Mando! Coming from someone who thought the OG star wars movies were alright. The new tech has made it look and sound amazing! Also 60 hertz on iPhone feels better and smoother at times than any of my android phones. When it comes to the os and optimization of all the apps, iPhone is the best. I still love using my pixel 8 pro though!!
@retrogaminggenesis6102
10 ай бұрын
That smoothness comes from the UI side not the display. Agree it's smooth though.
@ProfessorTechNerd
10 ай бұрын
Do you know what my 72 year-old mother enjoys about her iPhone 14+. it’s big enough to see the pictures of her grandkids that she can see the text by blowing it up and that she doesn’t have to charge it for three or four days. So she is OK without 120 Hz.
@Pedro145a
10 ай бұрын
the point is you should have the choice to choose
@kwadwothestan
10 ай бұрын
I think it’s very simple: should all iPhones have 120hz for their price range? Absolutely. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? No. Even as a techy person myself, I can barely tell the difference. It really doesn’t affect your use of the phone. Apple is obviously doing it because they need to have a differentiation between their regular and Pro models and from a business standpoint it totally makes sense. I feel like maybe one day they’ll bring a “low level” high refresh rate display like 90hz to the standard iPhones. But they will probably never get ProMotion. There’s a reason Apple refers to that feature as Pro! So I do think ppl need to calm down a little
@JJ2023.
3 ай бұрын
larger battery + higher refresh rate 🙄 im not upgrading my 14 if its a 60 Hz display I don't want a pro model
@IamRajanKhanna
8 ай бұрын
✋, change the ceo and "F" for 60Hz
@Lhoho100
10 ай бұрын
The idea that only regular person(like cant tell the smoothness of 120hz diaplay) choose non-pro iphone is quite misreading tho
@2randomperson
10 ай бұрын
This basically covers the same reasons I don't like most KZitem videos being 60 FPS over 30 or 24 FPS: being a bigger resource hog for no benefit to most people. The content usually doesn't need it (showing clips from 30 FPS sources, or just has little motion). Higher frame rates are less efficient both for the creator and audience, as it uses more battery and resources (file size, bandwidth, encoding/decoding compute)
@unpreeable
2 ай бұрын
"...& that's OK!" - no its not, i'm 100% sure when they up it it will be worshiped by the sheep
@LordVader-df6tz
10 ай бұрын
I completely agree with Drew on this. If I upgrade to an iPhone with 120hz i’ll honestly just limit the frame rate to 60hz and get like 10 minutes extra battery life but still have the option for dynamic refresh rate and always on display.
@brandonlee7382
8 ай бұрын
The iPhone 16 isn't made for the people who want 120hz. The Pro version is the one that targets us. The standard is for the more casual people who the people who don't mind it Anyways the people who usaully want 120hz also want the better specs camera and also the Pro offers the less bezel and we smoothness nerd also need the thinnest bezels too. For example if my mum wanted an IPhone i dont think she would listen to me explain the 120hz vs 60hz difference lol. Also we use to find 60hz smooth at one point in time about 2 years ago before our eyes saw 120hz. Our brains are so clever and if i turned your 120hz off you wouldn't even notice because you'll be too focused on the task at hand instead of closely watching the animations, then when i tell you the you'll look for it and instantly notice 120hz is off because now you focusing on animations instead of the task.
@brandonlee7382
8 ай бұрын
Let's put it simply Iphone 15 Pro is for Me and you who want the smoothest display and best specs. Iphone 15 is for everyone else and they just want a reliable iphone with the new dynamic island and the specs probably better than their iPhone 11 or iPhone 7 for example. Apple is genius and they know most people won't appreciate the extra smoothness and they know the premium buyer will want it. So now they have the right phone for both customers If you think iphone 15 pro is too expensive then that's fair enough. We use to get the best at lower prices but phone prices have risen. All the companies do sneaky ways they can make the best phone most appealing to us and I think apple has done it right and straight to the point. You can support it or not. Buy what ever phone you want. My rocking Samsung S23 Ultra and beings samsung had lost its unique appeal I'm gonna go to the dark side and buy a iphone 20 Pro max when that comes out. Hopefully zero bezels for iphone 20 Pro max with 120hz. Would also love a 30hz iphone to come out just to annoy everyone 😂
@iwearLingerie
7 ай бұрын
I agree with everything you're saying but for the price! Apple might as well have just made the screen 120hz An android brand called REDMAGIC have released a phone for 600 dollars it has SD 8 gen 3 120hz 6500 mAh battery that puts the iPhone 15 to shame
@brandonlee7382
7 ай бұрын
@iwearLingerie I agree. I think the standard one shouldn't exist and the Pro max should be priced at 1000
@moomin7461
9 ай бұрын
My android phone doesn't have 90 or 120hz. But then it only cost $70.
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