For heaven sake: I love you guys, man, but please stop taking calls from Brandon. It’s just fallacy porn at this point.
@loki6626
4 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm, fallacy porn 🤪
@devb9912
4 жыл бұрын
I once saw an argument from ignorance and an argument from incredulity double up on a black swan... F'in hot!
@loki6626
4 жыл бұрын
There's a good one on pornhub. A woman meets a man in a kilt but he's no true Scotsman. Soon she's begging the question and getting very fallacious with him till finally... cum hoc ergo propter hoc.
@Johnboy33545
4 жыл бұрын
@@devb9912: You have a sick mind. I think it's an admirable quality. Kudos, Sir.
@davebrokenshire1086
4 жыл бұрын
I don't have a problem with repeated calls from Brandon. It allows Vi and Eric to say, 'hey, we covered that last time', and that saves us all a lot of time. It's not as though fresh callers are going to come up with fresh arguments, we all know that's not going to happen. At least Brandon is reasonably polite and can string sentences together, unlike some of the callers Matt Dillahunty chooses to contend with.
@christophermyers6372
4 жыл бұрын
Love towards the end when Eric called Brandon out using the argument from ignorance the entire time and hammers him on it.
@rayxav
4 жыл бұрын
Argument: Something I can’t provide GOOD evidence for provides evidence for a thing I don’t understand.
@cfltournaments8406
4 жыл бұрын
Conclusion: I'm going to live my life trying to convince everyone that my lack of knowledge is better than what people devote their lives to on a tv show because it makes me feel better about myself.
@billskinner7670
4 жыл бұрын
To address his question, and his concern/counterargument: The cell membrane came first. It absolutely can AND DOES construct itself without DNA. And, currently, the scientific belief it that life was RNA based before DNA. RNA can perform the functions of both DNA and protein.
@BrunoFerreira-zg1dk
4 жыл бұрын
I’m willing to bet my next paycheck that he would not be able to find a single public school textbook that claims that “it rained on rocks for millions of years and they somehow magically turned into life” I think to even call that a straw man of evolution would be an insult to straw men
@UlshaRS
4 жыл бұрын
6 min in and he shows his hand. He heard the mousetrap analogy but didn't see the three second rebuttal where a professor came to class wearing an incomplete mousetrap as a tie clip? Removing a part changes the function but does not negate the existence of the remaining parts. We have science that demonstrates how these things can, and still are, developing. The fact we have eyes that are not regularly optimal for the form it has, i.e. many of us where glasses, let alone the best dismisses any great creator. You know I bet he has heard that rebuttal but is being deliberately dishonest, as he got called out on 11 min in. He has an argument from his position and is not working to determine validity, but at all cost, support his creationism stance.
@blarglemantheskeptic
4 жыл бұрын
That is most excellent! I never heard the tie clip story before. Going to hang on to that one!
@scottc1857
3 жыл бұрын
If a god developed the human eye he's a sociopath... Fucker is inside out backwards and barely works lol
@cmlacosta
4 жыл бұрын
This caller cannot comprehend what a period of million to billion of years can do...
@Johnboy33545
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure he can comprehend what days and weeks are. He may be that far removed from everyday reality.
@00fabian7
4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, I'm not sure anyone can comprehend the effects of such timescales. One of the root problems with a lot of superstition I'm afraid. Hence why it's so important we use tools/methods that help us see what we can't comprehend.
@lindycash
3 жыл бұрын
There is A LOT Brandon cannot comprehend.. because he simply does not want to. He has a belief and does nothing but look for things to confirm those beliefs. He is one of the most frustrating callers from this show and AXP.
@scottc1857
3 жыл бұрын
@@lindycash see what's interesting is I think that you couldn't be more wrong about Brandon. I think he gets it just fine and it terrifies the shit out of him. I think that some of the arguments have gotten through to him despite his best efforts not to let them penetrate and he's terrified of losing his faith. The sad thing is he's already lost it, that's a good thing, and his failure to understand it's a good thing and just accept that he believed a bunch of incredibly stupid shit for extremely bad reasons. He's now locked in a viciously recursive loop like some bad code endlessly trying to "get back his faith". This is why the biblical concept of hell and apostasy is so insidious and sinister. It's Christianity's Ultimate weapon of psychological destruction for those who actually get to a point where they stop buying the bullshit. They get even more fervent, militant, and outright manic and maniacal in their pursuit to "get their faith back" Because they're deathly afraid "for their souls". It's horrifying once you realize what's going on with people like Brandon.
@nic12344
4 жыл бұрын
Drinking game : Take a -shot- sip (I don't want you to die) every time Brandon says "yo".
@billmcdonald4335
4 жыл бұрын
Enough with him. Brandon has proven once more he's not being honest when engaging with you. 'Bout time to consider refusing to give this guy any more of your time.
@williamtarry4405
4 жыл бұрын
Apparently, theists hate it when science contradicts their "belief" in a god. Which happens all the time...
@chaschoune
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think science contradicts their belief in a god itself. Science is about the natural world, so it cannot make pronouncements on the supernatural world, except through its interactions with the natural world. It is the bible story that science contradicts because the bible describes the supposed interactions between a certain god and the natural world.
@williamtarry4405
4 жыл бұрын
@@chaschoune, that's an interesting point. I think the claims of the Bible where the entire universe was "created" in seven days is contradicted by science, but that doesn't take into account the Christian perspective that "to god a day can last a billion years". Christians in particular seem to think that the Bible is "better" than science, while they ignore that science has never been proven wrong by claims in the Bible.
@MGC-XIII
4 жыл бұрын
@@chaschoune it's funny because modern science came about from people trying to to prove god exists. They found methods to test their claim that a god existed and so far they haven't found god, they however found that a lot of things we attributed to gods had a natural explanation. Thus making the likelihood of a god/gods far less likely.
@chaschoune
4 жыл бұрын
@Toughen Up, Fluffy I don't think there is one, but it is pretty much impossible to prove there is none.
@florianb1022
4 жыл бұрын
This is a comment for the youtube algorithm ! Love you guys
@loki6626
4 жыл бұрын
Oh! Is that how you discovered this show? Welcome. Note of caution. Here be trolls.
@deeb33
4 жыл бұрын
11:57 Is when we all die inside, because the points you guys made were such a beautiful part of our growth as species, and it all went in one ear and out the other.
@Cyraneth
4 жыл бұрын
"I don't understand how a car works, therefore I'm a great cook" is not an argument from incredulity. It's a non sequitur.
@tetsujin_144
2 жыл бұрын
I find it very hard to believe it could be anything but an argument from incredulity
@Nanamowa
2 жыл бұрын
While he's talking about how it is personal incredulity to say "I don't understand x, therefore Y", he uses the above statement to show how even if we assumed he was right about evolution and abiogenesis, he wouldn't be any closer to a god because it's a non-sequitur to say your incredulity demonstrates a god, even if you were right about our inability to explain the origin and diversification of life. Of course, we can adequately explain the origin of species and have made great bounds in understanding the origins of the first living systems whether or not the caller understands or has been exposed to those things.
@brinstarmedia1411
4 жыл бұрын
"to me it always goes back to jesus" Not how you support a claim with evidence
@cfltournaments8406
4 жыл бұрын
I imagine him in daily interactions to everyday problems saying that 😂. He said "always, " so now I think he has random non religious conversations at the grocery store about milk or something then just randomly tying that to Jesus. Some people that call this show are probably weird in their "normal" lives.
@scottc1857
3 жыл бұрын
@@cfltournaments8406 people like that do in fact do that. It's fuckin disturbing
@cfltournaments8406
4 жыл бұрын
When I went to public school my biology class taught abiogenesis, evolution, panspermia, and a basic section on theology. Parents of different faiths got rilled up that their religion not being featured so my district went with a basic answer of "some believe that a diety created life and everything." I'm not sure if they were experimenting with theology in science classes, but as a student it was the most boring thing ever. I'd even go as far to argue that teaching theology in science class would probably create more atheist. It makes it seem ridiculous in contrast. With abiogenesis and panspermia I had follow up questions as to what leads other things... Such as how we understand disease, vaccines, etc.. With theology section, the only answer was "God did it." It was very unsatisfying and very easy to guess every question on respective quizzes filling out "God" as an answer. No my teacher was not a snarky atheist, he was a Bible believer that would sometimes tell us none of what we learned mattered when Jesus came back or would often pose conspiracy videos as truth. In fact, I remember being in a class in 2012 when that same teacher showed the class a "documentary" on the 2012 apocalypse. As a teen a few months away that December, and a class full of teens that never heard of the doomsday "prophecy" in an actual science classroom, we, at least I, was terrified. Honestly, my class never took anything he said seriously after the winter break as we awkwardly had to sit thru class with a guy that insisted the end of the world was last month.
@theroofgoats9583
4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Eric and Vi, good team work.
@thegreatcanadianweasel9928
2 жыл бұрын
Gets called out for circular arguments, then two minutes later says, "well of course I start with Jesus to make the argument for Jesus" (paraphrased)
@jf3422
4 жыл бұрын
hehehe Eric is letting his inner Matt show up ''NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO'' hahahaa
@Cellidor
4 жыл бұрын
The most obnoxious thing about _this_ kind of religious belief is how dishonest _and_ moronic it is. It's like...if a math teacher were trying to solve various questions. Someone comes in, points at the problem and says 'The answer is cow'. The teacher responds 'Why on _Earth_ would the answer be cow?' to which they hear back 'There's no other way this question could be solved! Therefore the answer is cow. It's an unsolvable equation, the answer is cow.' And so the math teacher gets to work. They work on the question, solve through all the steps, learning what they need to to dig down to find an answer...and what happens when they do? One of two things: a) 'I don't understand the work you've done here, it confuses me. The answer is still cow.' b) 'Well obviously the answer is 4.53. Anyone with half a brain could have seen that, there's no problem with _that._ But look at _this_ equation over _here!_ No one's solved _it_ yet! The answer to this one is _obviously_ cow!' No. No, it's not fucking _cow._ Maybe instead of being willfully ignorant and just boldly asserting that the answer to every equation you don't understand is 'cow', maybe try and LEARN HOW TO DO MATH.
@douglaslatham9904
4 жыл бұрын
"I don't believe in evolution"....".But I can see things do evolve with their environment".
@NotGoodAtNamingThings
4 жыл бұрын
Eric, great job holding the caller to task! You were fair and reasonable, but not accepting BS. Edit: Why oh why does anyone listen to Hovind? He's so dishonest. Sigh.
@bassman9261995
4 жыл бұрын
The conversation got so much better once Eric/Vi re-directed from irreducible complexity to abiogenesis
@nenofuller931
4 жыл бұрын
From Vi's laughter, i suspect Eric's a bad cook! 😅
@jonathanlatremouille9746
4 жыл бұрын
19:23 haha look Eric is becoming Matt
@wabbajack2
Жыл бұрын
"Every time I call, you tell me to go back and look at previous conversation..." Do it, though.
@tonydarcy1606
4 жыл бұрын
Even if evolution is wrong, ( it isn’t), we are still 13.8 billion light years away from Jesus.
@baptistoriginals
4 жыл бұрын
that was an excellent point comparing evolution and religion by saying since I don't understand the Bible evolution must be true very very great point I'm definitely stealing it
@NickvonZ
4 жыл бұрын
Highly Educational FUN from Talk Heathen!
@zgs12212012
4 жыл бұрын
I notice that a lack of scientific training, basic thinking skills and an imagination gets in the way of many theists. What is now a discrete organ/organ system need not have “popped” into existence as is in order for a creature to have evolved. A heart, a circulatory system, etc, can have evolved and seem to have evolved in ways that theists are completely ignorant of. So a bit of skepticism, a willingness to learn science and we can bridge another gap in knowledge! Hooray for us all. Cheers!
@wheels5894
4 жыл бұрын
I think we should wait until such a demonstration of Jesus' Resurrection before there is anything to say. The fact is that it is so highly improbable that such evidence could some so we have no need to even think what might happen in such an unlikely event.
@FourDeuce01
2 жыл бұрын
Brandon says evolution has “some serious problems”, but he has no trouble accepting a whole book of fairy tales.😂
@Chattosaurus
4 жыл бұрын
What would be the motivation of a time traveler? To change the present and future by altering the past, of course. What would be the motivation of an all-powerful god to create a universe and all life in it? That's a question I've never heard a theist answer. Surely the need to create implies something missing, which implies a lack of perfection. If it were outside the control of that god, it's not all-powerful.
@BelRigh
4 жыл бұрын
Professor Dave Explains has a GREAT takedown. Of James Tour, a d covers a LOT of what we know about abiogenesis.... and a great series on the basics of different branches of science Edit. James Tour is a SYNTHETIC chemist, NOT an organic chemist.
@tedgrant2
4 жыл бұрын
My shed has not got an engine, so it does not function as a car. Therefore my shed is completely useless.
@purpleice7277
4 жыл бұрын
The Book of Eric 😂😂😂
@BagpussAyeee
4 жыл бұрын
Id like to speak to Brandogs math teacher. Id also like a 1hr special with just him. Pleaseeeeeee
@_CinnamonKitty
4 жыл бұрын
Love you guys 🥰❤️
@benderisgreat5059
4 жыл бұрын
Even when I was a Christian, I wished there was no god, because I knew that if there was a god, tons of people were going to be tortured for ever, that is true belief. I didn’t want to believe, but I did. These people want to believe, and will protect that belief against all evidence.
@IxodesPersulcatus
4 жыл бұрын
He seemed reasonable for a good portion of the call.
@Wix_Mitwirth
3 жыл бұрын
For a human, hominids evolved first - no wait, primates. Simians? Mammals. Tetrapods, chordates, eukaryotes and "soup". It must be frustrating "teaching" the same things over and over to folks who could just go to the library. And he brings in the ovinism right there in the end! I had a feeling.
@im1penguin
4 жыл бұрын
...but cell membranes will self-arrange any time you get phospholipids in water. Sooo that's your answer.
@josephpement5938
8 ай бұрын
Funny how everyone who argues something to be "mathematically impossible" never uses numbers anywhere in their argument
@HugSeal42
4 жыл бұрын
One thing to add when he talked about how the parts on their own is useless. Evolution don't really remove useless parts, it removes part that is a detriment to survival and procreation. I must say I have never read a textbook that states that the rocks magically came to life. Perhaps religious history when mentioning golems, but that's about it.
@loki6626
4 жыл бұрын
Life coming from rocks is one of the stupid things Kent Hovind spouts to his gullible fans.
@Johnboy33545
4 жыл бұрын
@@loki6626: Yeah, poor Kent, he doesn't know dust includes ground up rocks. He doesn't know much actually or acknowledge that he does.
@peetee32
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know therefore GOD DID IT!!
@shanewilson7994
4 жыл бұрын
When it comes to what comes first, the heart of blood. Blood evolved first. The heart came along later.
@chaschoune
4 жыл бұрын
Not sure about that. 1) Blood and heart are still evolving, so it is wrong to say that one evolved before the other 2) If you mean "developed" first, it is half true. It seems that the circulatory system developed before the heart, but the "blood" at the time was likely very different than what it is now.
@shanewilson7994
4 жыл бұрын
@@chaschoune Your phrasing is more accurate. But like you said, a blood-like substance came prior to the first heart. But I do like your phrasing more, thanks.
@danielsnyder2288
4 жыл бұрын
Read the court case, fully refutes this ridiculous concept
@danielmartinsson899
2 жыл бұрын
This sooooo common. Religious people do everything in their power to poke hole in to evolution and science in general. "You don't know this, you don't know that, this seems a bit vague, how couls this thing be?". Then when it's time to actually substantiate their own position they just star to stutter and try to change to subject.
@Cellidor
4 жыл бұрын
"I dunno, evolution just has so many problems, based on the things I don't understand or the fact it doesn't yet answer every question I have. Not like creationism, which answers _everything_ with 'it was magic'. Now _that_ seems logical!".
@sarahhardy8649
4 жыл бұрын
Weren’t there loads of people resurrected around the same time as Jesus? Mathew 27:53. What made one scruffy looking nerf herder so different?
@gazza595
4 жыл бұрын
"To me it always goes back to Jesus" the response to that should have been to hang up on the clown.
@eje005
4 жыл бұрын
Eric's zen was broken in this debate and I love it. Someone needs to stop Brandon from preaching and blowing hot air into the microphone.
@joegillian314
4 жыл бұрын
None of the arguments concerning prophecy are compelling in the slightest. Each and every one of the so-called fulfilled prophecies fails to stand up to scrutiny, being either too vague to constitute a real prediction, too trivial to be considered any kind of real foresight, or misinterpreted so drastically that whatever the original meaning was clearly has nothing or very little to do with whatever prophecy is supposedly being referenced (i.e. like that one passage about different precious metals representing different kingdoms). There's also the fact that the Christian bible was written, rewritten, changed, modified, with deliberate omissions, over hundreds of years (or thousands, even). Someone could have easily written later passages meant to make it seems like fulfilled prophecy. We have no way verifying that this wasn't done, and since it's rather a mundane claim to say that humans changed and modifying texts (and lie and make things up), it isn't unreasonable to say that this could have happened, and it's certainly a more likely explanation than gods or magic.
@thedave1771
2 ай бұрын
14:45 James Tour. Well there’s your problem.
@TheSufferBrothers2
4 жыл бұрын
Nit-picking at science to prove God is like nit-picking at civil engineering to prove unicorns.
@jmaniak1
4 жыл бұрын
Michael Behe got his ass handed to him over irreducible complexity. It's a dead argument.
@Cyraneth
4 жыл бұрын
Seems his question was fair enough. Vi and Eric gave an example of the evolution of the eye from single cell to full human eye, and then Brandon asks "but what about before the single cell?", which seems like a fair enough question. You can of course infer that a similar evolution would've happened that would lead to the single cell, but by asking, Brandon displays that he didn't infer that and wanted an answer or some help understanding.
@Cellidor
4 жыл бұрын
The deeper problem here is that Brandon doesn't actually seem interested in finding the answers to these questions. He shows every sign of _wanting_ there to be an unanswered question so that he can slide in 'god' as an answer. If he actually wanted to know how the eye evolved, he could have looked it up, or called to talk to a biologist, or any number of things, same for the question about the cell. Through indoctrination or just a lack of education however, he equates 'atheism' with 'evolution', as if only atheists accept it.
@Cyraneth
4 жыл бұрын
@@Cellidor That's typically what happens, yes, but to assume that's the case with every theist is just as disingenuous. And sure he might want for there to be an unanswered question, but we know what happened before the single cell, all the way down to the first DNA formed. Sure, we don't know how the first RNA formed, but going by the progress of scientific findings, that's only a question of time, and it perfectly illustrates the futility of the god of the gaps argument.
@Cellidor
4 жыл бұрын
@@Cyraneth Sure, not every theist acts that way, of course, but in Brandon's case I get the distinct impression that's what he's doing. I don't think he knows what RNA is, yet I think it'd be safe to bet that if he heard we didn't know conclusively how it's formed, he's say 'it could only have been formed by God'.The question is how to somehow break through to a person stuck in that pointless gap-filling loop, getting to somehow reason with someone who absolutely _must_ fit Yahweh into every equation somehow.
@Cyraneth
4 жыл бұрын
@@Cellidor That's fair. I tend to point out how pathetic a gap-filler god ends up looking to such apologists, but I suppose a desperate deist is perfectly content with a gap-filler.
@meloveAi
4 жыл бұрын
Oof, that last part about the public school system. This is all I can think of: "Explain science, but frame it and word it in such a way that it sounds like ridiculous fantasy."
@FourDeuce01
2 жыл бұрын
Somebody should explain to Brandon the difference between proving prophecy and proving imaginary gods exist.
@azuravian
4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where Vi La Bianca talks more about Jesus not claiming to be god? Although not a Christian, I used to be and it is my understanding that in John 14:8-11, Jesus was claiming to be god when talking to Philip.
@Cellidor
4 жыл бұрын
The collected writings of the bible were written in different periods of time after Jesus had already died (some 40-60+ years). In the earliest writings, there is no mention of Jesus ever claiming to be god. As the legend grew however, and later versions added to the story, the narrative changed from 'Jesus is just a preacher' to 'Jesus is god in the flesh'. All of the writings are, in essence, fan-fiction based on the same character, so it makes sense that future installments would jump the shark in order to catch people's interest more.
@1tommymulligan
4 жыл бұрын
Vi you have beautiful eyes. Interesting topic I think I've heard Dawkins explain the eye that can only see light that if a predator went overhead and blocked the light partially it would know its general location, and it could escape.
@scottc1857
Жыл бұрын
The cell membrane and DNA thing is just a fundamental misunderstanding of how evolution works. A deliberate one. I failed biology twice in high school and I understand this stuff just fine. Evolution isn't a straight line and isn't trying to reach a goal. Things repurpose as their original uses stop being viable.
@twilightsparkle75
4 жыл бұрын
In the end he never was able to explain himself
@tessalyyvuo1667
4 жыл бұрын
Eric gave a good explanation about evolutionary changes. But nautilus is a mollusc, not a fish. If Old Testament had a prophecy of Jesus, why are there still Jews?
@brendandmcmunniii269
4 жыл бұрын
Why do apologists still use ideas that have long since been debunked ?
@runenorderhaug7646
4 жыл бұрын
I dont think he understands dna as well as he thinks he does. DNA is both less and more complex than we often think it is. It is in many ways not even a plan,but simply something that in our world is what causes certain proteins and often the same distinguished gene manifests in two different species in ways that are both clearly different but also similar not because of the "plan" instead because of the properities of that protein in combination with other proteins activating
@nineofnine
6 ай бұрын
A stick is a simple mouse trap🎉
@vincentsolis5149
4 жыл бұрын
@talkheathen Where can I pick up a copy of The Book of Eric?
@antman2443
4 жыл бұрын
This is like the 3rd video in a row I've seen Brandon call in... wow. Btw, before you can attribute a design to a designer you must first establish/prove the existence of said designer and then prove a casual link between the designer and said design... if you can't even do the first step then you've already lost the debate my friend.
@Drakonis.Imperial
4 жыл бұрын
It's "mathematically impossible" to win the Powerball 3 times in a row ... until someone does it. Sure, it's really, really, really unlikely but if you think about it you're just as likely to hit a "one in a billion" series of numbers on the first try as you are on the ten-millionth, or one-hundred-millionth or one-billionth.
@tomjackson7755
4 жыл бұрын
It's no more impossible than the last 3 winners winning it and that actually happened. The odds don't care if it is 1 or 3 people who won it.
@Drakonis.Imperial
4 жыл бұрын
@@tomjackson7755 Yeah I know, I aced my Statistics course in college ... but that was 30 years ago (lol).
@tomjackson7755
4 жыл бұрын
@@Drakonis.Imperial I didn't ace mine, I did alright, but it was 30 years ago. LOL I like to point out all of the winners of all of the lotteries in the world. Which I imagine dwarfs their number by hundreds if not thousands of orders of magnitude. They say it is impossible, yet it actually happened.
@vladtepes7539
4 жыл бұрын
complex is what happens to the world, after the mind span his coordinates all over it and tries to order, manipulate, grasp n grab what must not calculate itself - and unlike the mind struggling complexity wont make mistakes or have plans not working out. creation and evolution result in you being present - why judge the work that may be gods and not meaning the sam,e result be criticised? because it didnt pop out of thin air? if you want. worse is the rest, not even accepting a tree to be able to exist on his own, but claiming it impossible - and therefore a work of the god that their the image of. and therefore - having noone beside them, that stopped them or forgave for they knew exactly what we were doing.
@onepunch9203
3 ай бұрын
14:40 -ish James Tour? 🤦♂️ Seriously? 🤣 Edit: David Berlinski? 🤣 Seriously?
@goldendogwoodworks6675
4 жыл бұрын
Brandon used two people that work for the discovery institute. Neither one of them have ever written a peer reviewed paper. Brandon says magic did it
@nathanmckenzie904
4 жыл бұрын
Brandon gives me a headache
@hakureikura9052
4 жыл бұрын
last time i was this early....... wait, when was the last time i was early...
@hakureikura9052
4 жыл бұрын
@Bad oMaN ok.... when was the last time i was this early?
@robertkaslow3720
4 жыл бұрын
You need to suspend disbelief in order to time travel to be first!
@hakureikura9052
4 жыл бұрын
@Bad oMaN whoa! you're a dude? i thought you were a girl... you sound like a pussy...
@hakureikura9052
4 жыл бұрын
@Bad oMaN so was mine... guys tease each other like this, the way you replied revealed that you got triggered.... you never had any proper friends have you?
@orionred2489
4 жыл бұрын
Wait.. wasn't Eric's example just a non sequitur?
@IllustriousCrocoduck
4 жыл бұрын
Bottom line is arguments from a place of ignorance are invalid. I would have answered his initial question with "I have no idea". I do, but that doesn't make HIS claim. Having a question or mystery is the starting point for investigation, not a conclusion. Brandon summarized that when Vi asked if the cell thing was enough to convince him and he responded "no, but it might a point for me to investigate further." THAT is exactly what you should have done. Go take that bio class, buy some textbooks, read some papers. Please, investigate. Don't jump to conclusions.
@James-ye7rp
3 жыл бұрын
"Jesus" has never, ever, made any claims about anything. "Jesus" is a character in some books, therefore, "The Authors of what Jesus said" have made claims.
@brucewilliams4152
Ай бұрын
Death burial.and resurrection of Jesus. Brandon we have no contemporary historical records or evidence from the reign of Augustus or Tiberius Caesar of Jesus, let alone the above.
@gruelichkulsheim9445
4 жыл бұрын
brandon brandon brandon.... just don't... this is an example as to why we must teach our children logic.. sad
@UnknownChocolatiering
4 ай бұрын
james tour is probably fine for his field of chemistry, but when it comes to biology, biochemistry etc, he has let his faith cloud his reasoning so badly.
@OwOraTheWitch
4 жыл бұрын
26:19.... I.... Really.... REALLY... Don't think you do. Because if you did you'd realize that calling DNA a "code" or a "book" at saying that it was "written" is completely nonsensical.
@callmeflexplays
4 жыл бұрын
James Tour is no authority on this topic either.
@Disturbed0neGaming
Жыл бұрын
This guy can't be honest about anything, I'm having a hard time believing his name is even Brandon...
@mattjindrak
2 ай бұрын
Lemme axe you a quexion
@amyv8416
4 жыл бұрын
Brandon doesn't even understand his own beliefs.
@Jo-JoandTaffy
2 ай бұрын
He is a lost cause.
@purpleice7277
4 жыл бұрын
Dear me, you both are now “you people.” 🤦🏼♀️
@jesusistheonlywaytogettoheaven
4 жыл бұрын
Philosophy proves Jesus as God! That’s right, I’ll say it again! philosophy proves Jesus as God! I think both atheists and believers agree that we have something called( ”THE UNIVERSE”) and (“THE UNKNOWN”) which means we don’t know what or who brought it into existence! Having that in mind, we must also agree that(The Universe) has a Cause, called “THE UNKNOWN”! If you would argue that: “THE UNKNOWN” is not necessarily the cause of “The Universe” you’re obliged to give up on “THE UNKNOWN” And this argument would drop by itself! But because “THE UNKNOWN” IS... or the concept of “THE UNKNOWN” Exists! all we are left with are 2 options: EITHER 1. This “UNKNOWN “ has to be the cause of the universe, by popping everything into existence! OR 2. “THE UNKNOWN” is the cause of the universe, NOT BECAUSE “ THE UNKNOWN” has popped the Universe into existence, but because “THE UNKNOWN” ... JUST IS...the cause of the Universe! CAN YOU SEE IT? It doesn’t matter how “THE UNKNOWN” becomes the cause of the universe ( by popping things into existence or in a different way ), yet it matters that “THE UNKNOWN “ ...IS...this thing that caused the universe! We both know that “THE UNKNOWN” ...IS... THAT’S PROOF For what we call GOD! Now I will explain: Because “THE UNKNOWN” IS...,we can replace it with God, or with something else which can be called God as well! Now, you have to know what is (this thing, this power, or this energy, or something else) however you want to call God! “THE UNKNOWN” is “God”! “God” is “THE UNKNOWN” And... The MOST AMAZING AND POWERFUL THING is that: JESUS called Himself to be “ THE, I AM” a few times in the bible, Just like “THE UNKNOWN”...IS... God (Jesus) Is= I AM I AM, Is= “THE UNKNOWN” If you would argue saying: there are more than just 2 options, please bring up all the other possibilities!
@midlander4
3 жыл бұрын
Just give up with your tedious xtian bullshit. Literally noone cares.
@jesusistheonlywaytogettoheaven
3 жыл бұрын
@@midlander4 Millions upon millions upon millions do care, you’re just in the wrong crowd! Repent! Time is short! Jesus is coming!
@midlander4
3 жыл бұрын
@@jesusistheonlywaytogettoheaven just give up, seriously. Study some actual science and stop kidding yourself. It's embarrassing.
@jesusistheonlywaytogettoheaven
3 жыл бұрын
@@midlander4 Science proves Jesus! It’s funny that all of the atheists take science on their side when in fact science well interpreted points to Jesus!
@isaacdominguez474
4 жыл бұрын
There rebuttal are terrible I don't see why people call in for this garbage
@JamesR1701
4 жыл бұрын
Do you mean Brandon's rebuttals are terrible? Also when referring to multiple people, the word is 'their' not 'there'. I'm sure that was just a simple error on your part.
@isaacdominguez474
4 жыл бұрын
@@JamesR1701 I'm speaking on the whole establishment
@JamesR1701
4 жыл бұрын
@@isaacdominguez474 What establishment? You're either being intentionally vague or you're very confused.
@isaacdominguez474
4 жыл бұрын
@@JamesR1701 talk heathen...I think it's a terrible platform for discussion and under qualified people hosting
@isaacdominguez474
4 жыл бұрын
@John Wood no I think logic and reason is more important than asserting things to be true that haven't been proven true
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