"You focus on the good and eventually the bad figures out it doesn't fit in anymore" That's spot on, man!
@MarcosTorres29
Ай бұрын
credit to pastor Robert Stankovic! Was an epic truth bomb.
@marjoriefortney1136
Ай бұрын
Everyone is welcome. However, Jesus promises to save us from our sins, not in our sins.
@user-wt9yw9of5g
Ай бұрын
The most important thing is what Jesus says - ALL will be given the choice - split or no! The remnant is but a small few so the book would seem to say. Come out and be separate is the cry to be given at the end. Peculiar and straight laced are the remnant. Hated and vilified. Even their own churches will hate them. Everything will be measured by the word of God in the end. As it was in the beginning, so it shall be at the end. "And, behold, I COME QUICKLY; and my reward is with me, to give EVERY MAN according as HIS WORK shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that DO his commandments, that THEY may have right to the tree of life, and MAY ENTER IN through the gates into the city. For WITHOUT are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. I JESUS have sent mine angel TO TESTIFY UNTO YOU these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And WHOSOEVER WILL, let him TAKE the water of life FREELY." Revelation 22:12-17
@shirleyhoworth5003
Ай бұрын
I agree the wheat and tares will grow together God will sort this out
@marioa23
Ай бұрын
@@shirleyhoworth5003 Yes! Appreciate the comment! Thanks for listening in!
@CaptMoo
5 күн бұрын
The "problem" for me is that both conservatives and liberals (to use that definition) all agree that their position have been led and inspired by the Holy Spirit. They prayed for guidance when they were reading the bible, and they heard the Lord giving them their conclusions... So it's always going to be hard to find unity in our church because, how can I go against The Holy Spirit that spoke to me directly as I was reading the Bible (and/or listening to a preacher). Until, like you guys said, we can agree to disagree, and still continue having strong, respectful relationships, carrying the mission of sharing the gospel.
@samuelwilliams1559
29 күн бұрын
True there are some of both sides. I am a moderate.
@saulescobar1633
Ай бұрын
He rescued some evil people but not in their sins but from their sins
@PullingthePlug
Ай бұрын
Adventism sees having an openness to diverse expression as a threat to identity...and identity is a super sensitive issue. Is it possible to negotiate what is core, what is the real meat, what is optional, what is negotiable?
@marioa23
Ай бұрын
@@PullingthePlug I agree! It's so sensitive. And a lot of times we develop our identity on things that shouldn't be at the core or foundation of our beliefs. I do hope we keep moving towards where the Spirit wants us to focus on. Appreciate the comment! 🤙🏼
@gregcox6165
Ай бұрын
I used to attend a woke, all inclusive SDA church and it ate itself. It went so far off the deep end on “inclusivity” it had Pride Parties on Sabbath afternoons. It’s community health ministry included Planned Parenthood info for abortion. The entire pastoral team left. No apologies, no “come let us reason”. They skipped town and even the head pastor bragged about his new best life adventure. Split? It already is fractured. Fall? It will appear to but won’t. The answer? Yes, there is an answer: DENY YOURSELF AND FOLLOW ME, not your own feelings of how YOU think it should be.
@marioa23
Ай бұрын
@gregcox6165 I definitely agree with you that we are called to deny ourselves and follow him. I can't attest to your experience. According to the message to the church of Ephesus (Revelation 2), just because a church exists doesn't mean it stands as a church in God's eyes if they're not founded on his Love. It seems the Holy Spirit was calling out all sides of the spectrum throughout the New Testament. Appreciate you tuning in.
@glendagoss6697
Ай бұрын
Perhaps we don’t follow man’s idea of the scripture but wait for the Holy Spirit to teach us the ways of Jesus. Remember guys…Pharisees may have had wealth and power but we serve a Living God who owns all. We are His children. Don’t put God in a box of our making.
@bimosunupoernomo7120
Ай бұрын
Yes FOUR WAYS AND SOON!!!
@itsspiritual8645
Ай бұрын
The Narrow and Wide Gates 13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in there at: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. True and False Prophets 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. True and False Disciples 21 Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matt 7 KJV
@johnapocalipto6000
Ай бұрын
Please do an episode about the official PRO CHOICE stance on abortion of the adventist church!
@shirleyhoworth5003
Ай бұрын
Inclusiveness is good
@johnapocalipto6000
Ай бұрын
@@shirleyhoworth5003 You mean including MURDER in the normal behavior of a christian? What a disgrace
@itsspiritual8645
Ай бұрын
The birth process originated with Jesus Christ; it was designed by Him! Interfering with it at any point goes against that God given design and terminates a soul for Him. Pro-Choice is Pro-Abortion, it's the only choice being made.
@derrick7442
Ай бұрын
@@shirleyhoworth5003 Except you can't be the commandment keeping church and be okay with murdering innocent human life.
@bimosunupoernomo7120
Ай бұрын
We do not care!!! They are the same anyway, NOT CHRISTIAN, however you cook it, as long as WORLDVIEW STILL THE SAME, YOU GUYS STILL SDA. Cursed by THE ALMIGHTY CONGRATULATION!!!
@MarcosTorres29
Ай бұрын
cool story bro 👍🏽
@marioa23
Ай бұрын
🤔
@pipmorgan3496
Ай бұрын
Foolish chatter.
@josephkirimi5453
Ай бұрын
They can split but will remain denominitions like any other.
@bimosunupoernomo7120
Ай бұрын
The Historical genuine SDA THE HEAVENBIUND THE CHOOSEN ONE The LOOSIE GOOSIE GOSPEL ADVENTIST HELLBOUND THE MODERN TYGIBSON ADVENTIST HELLBOUND YHE SABBATHKEEPER but afterward do not care AVENTUST HELLBOUND
@MarcosTorres29
Ай бұрын
What? Ty Gibsons going to hell? I guess I am too! Let's gooooo! 🤣🤣🤣
@fernmunroe9483
Ай бұрын
Question , make it plain for me, what is the mission of the church?🙏❤️
@MarcosTorres29
Ай бұрын
To reveal to a world drowning in lies about God the truth about his character of love.
@marysanchez90
21 күн бұрын
And that may include those Adventists who are very conservatives! So, what will you do when they are in the church? Ask them to leave? Or accept! Isn't your view a bit bias? But can you accept those who are gay and unwilling to change their way of living? I sometimes wonder what Ellen G. White would think of our church the way it is today!
@MarcosTorres29
21 күн бұрын
Not sure what your point is?
@saulescobar1633
Ай бұрын
I Hope that by inclusion you don't mean baptism of openly gay practicing couples and other sins
@hoffabrando007
Ай бұрын
put the holy spirit in charge your a paster Mario, who is the holy spirit?
@ericr9102
Ай бұрын
I think you have traditional Adventist and more non traditional Adventist so I could see a potential split coming
@thestorychurchproject
Ай бұрын
we hope it doesn't get to that, but the reality is we are beyond traditional vs non-traditional. We've entered a season where the differences are so much deeper than that. We pray God brings the healing. In the meantime, we focus on the mission. ❤
@hoffabrando007
Ай бұрын
Doing better , how can one do better if one is dead in Christ
@marioa23
Ай бұрын
Correct. "Doing better" is listening to the Holy Spirit and being transformed by him. Allowing him to make Jesus alive in us.
@harveyharris9251
Ай бұрын
You guys are not Adventist. (You) cannot qualify an exemption from standards apart from truth. You both need to take a lesson from the military, uniformity is needed to accomplish the mission. Secondly, the blueprint for church planting is described in the Spirit of Prophecy, standards of dress, standards for music, entertainment and morals; by the way Spider-Man is a lie. Thirdly God is alive, preach the truth and the “lord will bring in those who should be saved.” Two groups will be in the Adventist church until the harvest, at that time the Angels will do the separating.
@MarcosTorres29
Ай бұрын
Whenever a comment begins with the phrase "you guys are not Adventist" I know for sure any further conversation doesn't interest me in the least. All the best to you mate.
@marioa23
Ай бұрын
Well Spider-Man was on my roof, I have proof. 🕸️
@MarcosTorres29
Ай бұрын
@@marioa23 🤣🤣🤣
@dopeydwarfy7669
Ай бұрын
I still think the subject of the video is being danced around. I don't understand what you are getting at. Are you saying the church is to let down on its principles? There are going to be tons of people who answer the call "Come out of her, My people." Of course, the Spirit will fund the church. Oh, there will be a reaching out by the Lord--see above. Let God do what He will.
@marioa23
Ай бұрын
I agree that the church should not compromise on its principles. An issue is that some Adventists are equating traditions and out-of-context interpretations with true principles and expect everyone to follow them. This leads to a focus on "uniformity" instead of "unity." At the same time, standing up for biblical principles excludes those who don't agree with them. Appreciate you listening in!
@OnlyTruthStands
Ай бұрын
@@marioa23 the unity vs uniformity thing is the same conflict as equity vs equality in the DEI slogan being mooted by those (unelected, unaccountable) organisations urging Western Marxism upon us. equality of opportunity is a very different thing to enforced identical outcomes (and that regardless of context). the story of the childless woman at Sychar (John 4:3-30) would really, really upset some DEI advocates. (hello from 400km SSE of you, where the day is overcast)
@marioa23
Ай бұрын
@@OnlyTruthStands Hey how's it going?! So I don't know if you heard the whole episode but I don't recall us speaking about that. I'm having a hard time making the connection. Hopefully we can agree at least in the general statement that God is not looking for uniformity but unity amongst his people. But even if you don't agree, still appreciate you listening in and expressing your opinion.
@OnlyTruthStands
Ай бұрын
@@marioa23 yes, our uncreated creator is looking for unity. the equity versus equality thing parallels word games often played by political figures to coerce the general public to unquestioningly comply with incoherent directives - or in effect, to enforce tyranny. those with Christ in them will want Christ in them, because they know Christ (not merely know of Him or know about Him), and the result will be unity - not necessarily uniformity, as every person is different to every other. when he asked an apparently simple favour of a lowest-of-the-low (in her culture) childless woman at the well in Sychar (John 4), the men in the metropolis literally walked through cultural racial boundaries to meet him and ask questions of him - unity.
@zeljkobalaz2768
Ай бұрын
bro bro bro bro hats____ what are u talking about? hitting ideas and no Bible support...if if if no real conclusion. Work on it.
@marioa23
Ай бұрын
You like our hats? Appreciate it! And one thing is to not agree with the biblical support, which is ok. But another is for you to not have listened to the whole thing and say there is no biblical support. Peace and love ✌🏼
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