The room based experience looks terrible already, it looks lacking in character visually too. I’ll try it but it’s probably going to be a hard pass if it’s room based like it is here it just looks absolutely terrible..
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
4 ай бұрын
That's fair. Thank you for commenting.
@BrighterShoresCentral
5 ай бұрын
Awesome video. You make a great point regarding them not needing more money and not being controlled by gaming publisher to push MTX.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
Appreciate the compliment. Thank you.
@ironfyst7313
5 ай бұрын
I'll check it out and if reasonably priced might even get a membership. A major down side is its not open world though. I love the freedom to explore Gielinor and go for random walks. Wandering around Gielinor is what keeps me going back to RS3 whenever i cant be bothered to play the game.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
Depending on how they pre-load the assets to the adjoining rooms, you could very much get a fake open-world experience. There is something about open world games though, finding a cliff or a mountain and looking out on the world that is amazing.
@glenn6284
5 ай бұрын
Room based?? Sounds boring af
@therandomdrone4370
3 ай бұрын
He wants a "Tabletop" Rpg experience. Not just a video game.@@glenn6284
@JaytheGreen
5 ай бұрын
OSRS has run its course for me just like RS2 i've always had mad respect for andrew and always will. i hear your call! brighter shores await us.
@JaytheGreen
5 ай бұрын
i hope andrew adds some classic grinds. as a 20 year veteran i would be disapointed without some form of grinds or clue scrolls
@a-terrible-fate532
5 ай бұрын
@@JaytheGreenyeah we needs grinds for sure
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
I am normally against grinds for the sake of grinds. However, for this game, I think the grind is appropriate for the target audience. However, even Andrew wants there to be an automated way to get around the grind with legal botting. kzitem.info/news/bejne/tX2O3X2FjYGHjII
@Celthor
5 ай бұрын
Room based MMO. That's the sick feeling I got when I first saw this. - I'm out.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
That's fair.
@Sdizzle7
5 ай бұрын
to each their own, your loss. This guy created arguably the best mmorpg ever.
@codyskyrimvolen
2 ай бұрын
seems like this guy cant let go of that fact he made an amazing ip then gave it up
@heyim-jay
5 ай бұрын
The only thing that worries me with Brighter Shores is that from what we see, the combat will be too slow and there will be no flare to it. I also think that at this point many players will be looking towards big boss fights and this just doesn't strike me as the game to do so. I'm really interested to see/hear what Andrew's POV is on the topic before launch.
@ballzz2thewall
5 ай бұрын
Hes just trying to pull from the runescape playerbase which doesnt need fast or flashy combat.
@heyim-jay
5 ай бұрын
@@ballzz2thewall even compared to OSRS the combat looks incredibly slow lol
@masonhales
5 ай бұрын
good, slow combat to filter out the adhd zoomers
@heyim-jay
5 ай бұрын
@@masonhales you kinda need those zoomers to support and grow your game eventually. That’s why RS as a whole is slowly dying off and has been for years sadly. RS3 could’ve done a model rework years ago but they won’t spend the money for it nor a new system overall. It’s stuck in a limbo state where the game will just die which sucks as there’s a lot of good to it. OSRS will eventually just run out of content that fits into the world/time it came from.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
All very good points
@WakoDoodle
5 ай бұрын
I wonder if this game will feel like the early days of RS for me? Eg. chopping a willow over and over as ppl join or walk past talking about quests they need help on. While 1 guy walks up to sell stuff with flashing or acrolling text and my axe head flew off because the tree started getting angry. I walk over to grab it, shove it on the handle and we laugh as I got back to chop with them. Then 1 guy teleports away as an old man talks to him. As I watch eddsworld on newgrounds or listen to music. Good times...
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
Sounds like good times.
@arturvegis2571
4 ай бұрын
Wont happen because most communication now happens on discords and what not
@HysteriaXHF
4 ай бұрын
Dude, you deserve more subscribers. First time watching your video, very clear and informational. Liked and subbed.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Skulkesyk
5 ай бұрын
Seems interesting, not a huge fan of click to move tbh but probably gonna end up trying it
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
Click to move is very niche, but it can work. I could see why if you aren't a fan of it you wouldn't stay with it very long.
@calebshannon11
5 ай бұрын
Looks like you actually can trim armor now
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
Not sure what you mean?
@calebshannon11
5 ай бұрын
2:09 says premium pass has “exclusive armor dyes” haha
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
Ah ok. Now I follow.
@dire_prism
5 ай бұрын
This seems like a very reasonable monetization. It really only differs from a subscription game with a generous free demo by name. Very similar to original RUnescape monetization.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
I think the other thing is it doesn't automatically punish you for having to miss a few days if money is tight. In most sub games when you run out of sub time that's it you are disconnected. In this, at least if your sub runs out and you can't pay it, you could just play in free mode for a few days.
@dire_prism
5 ай бұрын
Yeah true I didn't even think about that one, with other games having a level cap on demos it's even better.
@isaacr7416
3 ай бұрын
It's really hard to tell if this will be fun, but im excited to try it out at launch and find out!
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
3 ай бұрын
Always willing to try something.
@IRedpunk
5 ай бұрын
Meh, the classes just don’t seem super interesting. Also, room-based instead of seeing a whole world ? That’s so restrictive for this day and age. Not sure it’s gonna do well.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
This is fair, I'll be doing an update this week on the room to room based idea to see how that flushes out.
@freelifematters6193
5 ай бұрын
it looked cool until you said its not open world. Im definitely not playing if its room based, not saying its bad but definitely not my thing
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
I can understand that. It will really boil down to if the room to room movement is seamless.
@codyskyrimvolen
2 ай бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork naw feeling trapped in a room the whole time im playing is awful at best.
@aaronmoran3808
3 ай бұрын
I hope this game is successful, but I feel the no open world is going to kneecap it early. I hope I'm wrong.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
3 ай бұрын
I hope it will be something to hang out with for a while.
@soonertee
5 ай бұрын
What's the pvp vs pve going to be? Always my deciding factor for a game. I won't mess with anything beyond self flagging/ dueling.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
Right now there is no mention of PVP that I can find. That's not to say there is no, but that's not to say there is. Still waiting for more updates.
@soonertee
5 ай бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork thanks kindly
@AdrionYT
4 ай бұрын
So this whole game is pretty much like dungeoneering...
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
4 ай бұрын
Pretty much yes
@codyskyrimvolen
2 ай бұрын
yeah that is fucking awful lmfao that "skill" ruined rs2 for me.
@Nobody_1.
4 ай бұрын
the only way bots can run rampant, is if the profit from the bots is higher than the cost from losing the account to a ban by a significant margin
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
4 ай бұрын
Sadly in a lot of cases the bots are being run on stolen credit cards or compromised accounts. So any profit they can make before the account is automatically detected and deleted is profit.
@MsMaplestoryXD
2 ай бұрын
Was interested in it, but locking new areas behind a premium pass is a no for me. The trading, unique name, dyes doesnt bother me, just the fact that actual areas behind it sucks
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 ай бұрын
It does, but sadly if you don't lock areas behind the paywall, then you almost have to lock power behind the paywall. I'm not a huge fan of this monetiziation strategy, if its F2P it should be F2P but I understand the developer needs to make money.
@mr.picklesTROLL
20 күн бұрын
does it drop your items if you die?
@ratdoto2148
2 ай бұрын
I think making classes could be a big mistake. I personally really dislike classes in MMORPGs, and I believe a lot of Runescape players share this sentiment, I've spoken to many who do. If the game intends to only have three classes, I imagine it might be some attempt to prevent people from switching styles mid combat like in Runescape, but there are so many better ways to go about this. To begin with it makes no sense that you can switch gear that quickly during combat, so you could just prevent it in this new game. Either way, I wish it didn't have classes. Edit: Nice video btw.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 ай бұрын
Thanks! I do agree there is a time and place for classes with restrictions on what you can do, and a time and place for players to be able to do everything. I think Brigher Shores is going to be more a single player game with some opportutnies for co-op. But we have to wait and see what the grand plan is.
@iAdzii
5 ай бұрын
very blocky
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
4 ай бұрын
It is very blocky.
@talemire258
5 ай бұрын
You should try and score an interview with Andrew or something.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
Honestly, I wouldn't do an interview with a developer at the current time because it would be the developer bringing way more to the table than I am able to offer.
@brandon8667
2 ай бұрын
There shouldn’t be any classes? I’ll try it but the spiritual successor to RuneScape should have classes
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 ай бұрын
Just what other players have said.
@newhate2735
17 күн бұрын
Lost me at not open world
@Christian_Bagger
2 ай бұрын
Free to play is essential a trial, which is totally fine. It’s fine you can sink your teeth in, before you pay a monthly sub.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 ай бұрын
I agree with this. 100%
@swordseye2
3 ай бұрын
I'm all in for this! HYYYPPE!
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
3 ай бұрын
Q3 isn't that far off
@rowly5587
2 ай бұрын
i might play it for sure
@Hrick98
Ай бұрын
Hum... vou jogar 😅
@draccuzhc7113
5 ай бұрын
If the game is a successful it will have bots. In wow there are bots even if they need to buy a sub. So if u want fight bots you need ingame Gamemaster imo.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
This is true, which is why the 2 step process needs to be in place. One, the big net for catching the bulk of the bots (this is the premium sub which locks out the player to player trading) and then second is the game design which makes the game less desirable for bots to even come to the game in the first place. Then, you have the fishing pole which is those active GMs. Without active GMs you will always have some level of bots and other bad actors.
@WokeYT
4 ай бұрын
bro what are you wearing?
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
4 ай бұрын
A top hat, the only head gear for a dapper gentleman.
@WokeYT
4 ай бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork where’s your pimp cane
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
4 ай бұрын
Next to my computer. Its a steampunk brown metal cane, with a skull on top. Yes the skull is also wearing a top hat
@JesusIsTheWay59
5 ай бұрын
This game gonna flop
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
I'm not sure how you can figure that, given the massive success of Runescape.
@Torqu3d
5 ай бұрын
Ive not heard anybody call it RS4, this is like a cheap version of Runescape
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
I've heard a number of content creators refer to it as Runescape 4
@R07ANDG
3 ай бұрын
the gameplay looks boring to be honest
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
3 ай бұрын
While I think that's fair to say from what we've seen, I don't think they've really done a good showcase of gameplay video yet. These videos were more showcase how the world works.
@makaupurple8242
5 ай бұрын
dont refer this game as runescape 4 please, thats disrespectful... rs3 sucks bro...lol
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
I didn't. Thats why I said it's the game thats being called runescape 4, but it isn't Lots of people are under that misconception
@codyskyrimvolen
2 ай бұрын
the world looks awful. the immediate black backgrounds kill the whole vibe and feels lazy as fuck.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 ай бұрын
I don't tink its lazy, I think it was intentional to look like a TTG board
@baska-
5 ай бұрын
I would play a game that does everything like RuneScape did, except for the boring combat and bad graphics.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say "bad" graphics. I'd say "old graphics" But yes, I agree the combat was bad, but now I understand it was tied to the tick rate so still bad but now I understand why it was bad.
@CertainDeath15
5 ай бұрын
New world almost pulled it off but investors ruined it
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
New World did a pivot on their own based on early player feedback, but the problem was people said what they "might" like in a game, not what they "would" play in a game. New World embodies the expression - a camel is a horse designed by committee
@theodorejenkins6066
5 ай бұрын
If you think osrs has bad combat you clearly just don't understand anything about it. The pvp has the highest skull ceiling of any game ever made to be quite honest. The pvm as well gets incredibly hard much harder than most games. I say that as someone that's been gaming for 25 years including years of hard-core raiding in world of war raft and 1-2000 hours playing fps like halo 2 and cod 4 and titan fall 2. Runescape combat is so hard that it looks boring to people that don't understand it but if you ever try to do something like the inferno in it you'd see just how crazy and engaging it gets. Seriously go watch the zuk fight the final boss from inferno. As for graphics....that's just irrelevant. I just now at 30 years old started playing older and older games like dreamcast, Saturn, Genesis, ps1, and snes. No rose tinted glasses needed i never played games that old as a kid but ive still found a ton of games on those consoles that I love in the last year. Not to mention all the awesome indie games that are emulating those graphics/styles as well. If you think graphics matter you're just not giving video games a chance.
@baska-
5 ай бұрын
@@theodorejenkins6066 sheeeesh white knight detected. anyway i sad bad graphics and boring combat, if you disagree, good for you lil bro
@Fascism_Is_One_Helluva_Drug
5 ай бұрын
Andrew Gower regrets selling Runescape & seeing it become the monetization cancer it currently is However, do understand that the overwhelming majority of bots in Runescape, both RS3 and OSRS, are bots with ACTIVE MEMBERSHIP. Mod Matt K and many others top Jmods, including the business patent for their current owners have admitted they don't mind real players subsidizing their in-game income needs with a small handful of bot accounts with active memberships. The only time, called The Bot Nuke Patch, by Runescape, saw it's total active player count drop from 180k~ to ~20k. They won't ever do that again because new owners want that spicy membership money. They're lying when they say, "we couldn't stop botting even if we could," - They did it once, and regretted the loss of income from active memberships from bot accounts. Either way, this game won't have a clan scene with hundreds of 300 capped guilds fighting it out in the Wilderness in planned fights for the sake of it like OG scape did, so I won't touch it with a 10ft pole
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
So you hit the nail on the head with the bot problem; the way the game is designed it encourages bots. That's the other half of game design that prevents bots does so by building a good economy that doesn't cater to bots. In this case, it is well known that there is a set of bots in the RS3 and OSRS ranks. I would argue that it isn't a "small handful" but without official data we would just be debating assumptions. This is why publishers are terrible for the game industry. They just want the money, so they are willing to trade potential players for guaranteed players or in this case guaranteed bots. The PVP is a fair point. I know people want that PVP, so in games that don't have it they won't play the game, and that is totally fair.
@xaero96
5 ай бұрын
Bro is making up numbers to sound smart. The bot nuke didn't make the player count go from 180k to 20k lol. More like 120k -> 80k. I was playing during that time. The botting issue was way worse back then. Also, Mod Mat K or any jmod did not say any of that shit. What he did say is that he thinks that around 10% of the player count are bots and not the overexaggerated number people like to throw around based on vibes. It's also not true that bots are good for the company. Botters use stolen credit cards which almost got Jagex banned from accepting payments in 2007. They spend a ton of money fighting that shit. They also lose real loyal players with payments that don't get charged back, so it is in no way actually profitable to have a game full of bots.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
Stolen credit cards are the bane of existence for most online companies with game subscriptions. What sucks is that there really isn't a good way to verify that information, and you get stuck eating a lot of the processing fees.
@Fascism_Is_One_Helluva_Drug
5 ай бұрын
@@xaero96 Prime time did dip to ~20k players over the next couple of days after the Bot Nuke went live, I played then too so I'm obviously right according to you. Current owner business patent also confirmed they don't care if players subsidize their main account income needs with a small handful of botted accounts transferring wealth, which you chose to not address. 10%? When every resource/mob/raid/boss is actively being farmed in every world, you choose to believe only 10% are bots? "You have no idea just how bad things currently are," - NDA Mod Matt K Every boss/raid drop rates are designed to be heavily inflated because they assume it'll be botted to all high hell
@Philtho
5 ай бұрын
yet another subscription on the pile of subscriptions.. killing the game industry. just let me pay my $5 steam sale and be done with it forever
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
Do you think that servers can be maintained with a one time purchase of $5? I think not.
@lennysmileyface
5 ай бұрын
Do you subscribe to multiple games?
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
I usually try to keep my subs to 2 games at a time. I turn off 1 if I want to sub to a 3rd.
@Krahamus
5 ай бұрын
And how do you expect them to pay for the server cost with a $5 price, pay employees? There are a couple of options they can do to be completely free with heavy monetization like korean mmo games, or use the gw2 method with a $60 price tag and cosmetics cash shop.
@PIVfirestarkproducon
4 ай бұрын
@@lennysmileyface I do actively subscribe to both OSRS and WoW. I also have other subs like spotify, etc. I don't think their prices are bad considering the sheer number of hours I put into each every month. If a meal at a fast food joint costs $15 now and that's something I eat in 5 minutes, surely I can spend $15 on something I'm putting 200 hours into each month.
@AlasdairXV
2 ай бұрын
If you want a game that's not fraud, it shouldn't be service based at all. any service based game locked to their servers regardless of it's free or not should just be illegal. software as a serivce is fraud.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 ай бұрын
I fail to see how software as a service is fraud? I mean, you could go to having games not have a subscription, but then games would cost $300 a piece. How does a company offset all the costs that go along with hosting servers if they don't have a subscription fee?
@AlasdairXV
2 ай бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork produce a product, and sell a product that people can access indefinitely for a set price like developers have done for decades with zero fraud involved , it's not hard. The are putting the costs on themselves by setting up a monpoly on access to their game. end consumers do not need their servers, they need their servers to defraud us by monopolizing access. the problem they are creating and then demanding me subsidize is artificial and created themselves.
@AlasdairXV
2 ай бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork "how can they fund the servers for their game with out subscriptions." I don't need to fund their servers, I can run my own, they want to have a monopoly on access to their game to defraud and demand unlimited payments to access the game. that is by it's nature fraud and doesn't benefit the end user, I love having some middleman between me and my software. zero benefit to me as the end user to have some company with it's hand out indefinitely and a hammer on it's hip ready to smash me with it.
@ThorStoneGaming
2 ай бұрын
@@ParadoxGamingNetwork Because software you purchase should be open source and the ability to run our own servers, rather than some middle man controlling the fate of a product you purchase. Companies that only offer their servers as a way to preserve the game content deserve nothing more than to have all their games pirated.
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
2 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, but software you purchase should not be open source. This is just an outlandish request that is not even rooted in reality.
@heyy-yaa
5 ай бұрын
please stop using the phrase "gamers" unironically
@mykelmellen2378
5 ай бұрын
Don't use words to describe people?
@heyy-yaa
5 ай бұрын
@@mykelmellen2378 not what I said, but thanks for the weird slippery slope fallacy. "gamers" is a dumb term that marketers and game publishers came up with and it's not something anyone should be self-identifying as
@imadecoy
5 ай бұрын
who give a fuck@@heyy-yaa
@mykelmellen2378
5 ай бұрын
@@heyy-yaa someone just recently heard a new term ☠️
@ParadoxGamingNetwork
5 ай бұрын
I've been using the phase "gamers" since I was about 7 or 8. You had the jocks, the skaters, and the gamers.
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