The canberra team should be called “Riverina”. Based in Canberra, but play occasional games in Albury and Wagga. And will have a population of 1 million people, which is twice as large as Tasmania.
@richardwood9177
2 ай бұрын
I see your point but from a marketing point of view it should be called Canberra. It’s the Capital. If Canberra want it then forget about”old school charm”. Either redevelop Manuka with a roof to host AFL, NRL, Cricket and soccer or build a new 40-50K stadium on Lake Burley Griffen. I agree that for Canberra to work as an AFL city it does need to embrace the Riverina. Maybe as an exclusive zone. I’d maybe even extend it to Shepparton.
@rmar127
Ай бұрын
@@richardwood9177building a stadium on lake burley griffin you say? Won’t the playing conditions be a bit soggy.
@richardwood9177
Ай бұрын
@@rmar127 Not if you construct it right. Just don’t do another Waverley.
@rmar127
Ай бұрын
@@richardwood9177 so a floating stadium on the lake. It’s an out there idea, but I like it.
@richardwood9177
Ай бұрын
@@rmar127 Well, not quite floating. But look at what’s been done in Baltimore, San Francisco. What they’re planning for Chicago. It works.
@rhysh2639
2 ай бұрын
If the AFL keep renewing the GWS Canberra contract, it would just prove that they have peas for brains. GWS lacks support in Western Sydney because they're simply not playing enough games there. Nobody in Western Sydney wants to follow a part-time Canberra team. They need to reallocate all their Canberra games to that ground in Blacktown and give people in Canberra their own full-time team.
@canberrapear7219
2 ай бұрын
Ironically, nobody in Canberra wants to follow a part-time Sydney team. By trying to cover two markets, their stunting their growth in either. Would prefer GWS pivot to Sydney full-time and Canberra get Team 20. We don't want their sloppy seconds.
@rhysh2639
2 ай бұрын
@@canberrapear7219 Exactly, people in Canberra deserve their own side, it's been long enough. With a population of around half a million people, it's really the best decision for team 20
@PjRjHj
2 ай бұрын
This should all be obvious to observers, yet we have the NRL trying to force a similar model on a new Perth team
@OldmanGamer9999
19 күн бұрын
Only need two games during t he Easter show in Sydney and that can be the away derby and another fixture, possibly Blacktown, possibly a double header at the SCG. But we need to be full time in Western Sydney, the Canberra deal hurts our growth in WS.
@robk1990
Ай бұрын
A NZ BBL team does make sense but I think a bigger market could be made by placing the 10th team on the Gold Coast instead. There’s a ground already in place and it’s in a location that could heavily attract players and fans. Beyond the BBL I think any development of Manuka would have to involve the A-League, as they would want to have access to a ground where they can play too
@jakal0
Ай бұрын
An A-league team is never going to want to play on an oval when there are decent rectangular options.
@rmar127
Ай бұрын
I see your point about the Goldy and it does make sense. Though for similar reasons, the Sunshine Coast would also be an attractive option too.
@houls44
2 ай бұрын
Great video mate, I think an upgrade would be great. Raiders and Brumbies could play at Manuka while Canberra stadium get upgraded. Hopefully kangaroos get moved to Canberra and the Canberra Comets will be a reality in the future. Would be great for the economy before and after the game if we had more events at Manuka.
@hedonismunderstands2469
2 ай бұрын
raiders and brumbies can get farked and stay at bruce. and hopefully canberra doesn't get a washed up merger side like the roos but gets its own team...
@BDub2024
2 ай бұрын
Change the name of GWS to WSC. West Sydney Canberra. Have the Giants playing a handful of home and away matches there. Involve another club like North as well. So both clubs play there.
@canberrapear7219
2 ай бұрын
Great video. Even if it costs $85m, that's a bargain for what could bring Canberra clubs in two national competitions. Especially when you look at what Hobart, Darwin or the Canberra rectangular stadium is expected to cost.
@anycontent31
2 ай бұрын
The closest thing to Canberra getting a bbl team is spotless (Sydney Showgrounds) stadium saying “nah mate, don’t want any matches here” which would probably result in the thunder moving to Manuka. (Hypothetically speaking, the bbl could change the name to the Canberra thunder, but then the stars would need to be changed to the “Darwin stars” or something like that, to equal out Sydney having one team)
@sulty0310
Ай бұрын
Cities like Melbourne and Sydney need two teams to have a rivarly
@anycontent31
Ай бұрын
@@sulty0310 I beg to differ, I feel like having a derby is cool, but not necessary. I mean, there isn't one in the marsh cup or Sheffield shield
@richardwood9177
2 ай бұрын
A Canberra AFL team won’t happen with a mini makeover of Manuka at $85M. Tasmania are spending ten times that to get their team. 20,000 capacity won’t cut it. It has to be at least 30,000. Heck, Kardinia Park will be 40,000. Same in Hobart. Plus, if you want to attract international events, the football World Cup demands a minimum 45,000, it has to be bigger. I agree that the 20th team should be in Canberra but not in a Mickey Mouse stadium. It’s the nations capital!
@canberrapear7219
2 ай бұрын
Hobart's will only be 23k. 20k is definitely on the small side, but good enough to start with. Then there's enough room on the western side to gradually increase like Geelong once we prove the demand is there.
@richardwood9177
2 ай бұрын
@@canberrapear7219 Hobart won’t be able to expand with the retractable roof. Canberra want to retain “the charm” of the current facility. Short sighted all round.
@titoelcomombiano
2 ай бұрын
FIFA won't play at an oval. Any potential world cup games would be at a redeveloped Bruce Stadium
@richardwood9177
2 ай бұрын
@@titoelcomombiano If that’s true, and I doubt it is, why did FIFA entertain Australia’s World Cup bid based on the MCG & ANZ Stadium? Bruce Stadium will never get redeveloped to 45K. It would be a white elephant.
@TBoneTony
Ай бұрын
This is perhaps a good sign for Canberra to be the 20th AFL/VFL team. I would say this is more than welcome considering the timeframe to completion would be nice for their team to enter the competition with GWS to look for other opportunities to get fans in central NSW.
@paulmcdougall4851
2 ай бұрын
I’ve always said that The GWS Giants should relocate to Canberra and be rebranded to The ACT Giants, the reason for this is due to the fact that The Giants already play games there.
@christopherharvie8716
2 ай бұрын
They have half a team already… Canberra is the Giants escape clause. They’ll need it eventually.
@canberrapear7219
2 ай бұрын
How long will we have to wait for that though? They need to leave Canberra to have a chance of being successful in Sydney.
@derekbos4404
21 күн бұрын
Got to be the Parrots .. the Pollies! 😮
@vegetarianfoodie9091
2 ай бұрын
Please stop calling this a riverine team! Canberrans were very proud of their territory and did not need to be connected to Albury or Wagga. The capital region best depicts the area catchment
@barrydobson2283
2 ай бұрын
I like the idea of the upgrades, but that won't be the what is needed to get AFL team. But it we got our stuff together bring in a VFL for 2029 we a road map to AFL 2032 when the next gws cbr deal ends. Hopefully by then they can upgrade more. Bradman stand overhaul with facilities extending into the rsl facilities. Or build a new stadium in phillip oval near woden, where the light rail will end in 10 years I would also rotate the goals 15 degree and build big grand stand behind which wouldn't effect the cricket set up The most disappointing part of the white elephant they build for cricket coverage is it limits grand stand intergration. It is that end of the ground that should be upgraded. While the cameras would like to see a grand stand the sun on that side makes it a very average for spectators, situation for any north south ground who need to play more day games. Give canberra north license or st kilda. We would either embrace the kangaroo nickname or the ainslie tri colours are the same as st kilda and would encompass both history I would also make the point that there doesn't need to be an even number for the bbl. The teams play with 3 to 4 days break, and is already weird gaps in the schedule for teams. The bye issue is a thing for the bbl. There is money in a Canberra sporting team and we deserve better than we are given. Feds put our retangular stadium on top of a ridge line exposed tobthe element and the local liberals screwed the budget in a reno that was 5 times more than proposed. We have been affraid to invest on that scale again. Only now with olympic in the air that they will look at the AIS (hopefully they the acoustic at AIS arena) then maybe we have a home for the caps and bring the cannons back. We get screwed around by football australia, still not a a-league team
@user-we8ue9qy9l
2 ай бұрын
@barrydobson2283 To let you know that (FFA Football Federation Australia) has granted Canberra their licence for their very new A-League Men's Football (Soccer) for them to enter into our A-League Competition & also Auckland is going to be the (2nd Second) New Zealand Team to enter our A-League Football (Soccer) Competition for both Men'& Women and so far, right now that we got a Canberra Team already for our Women's A-League Football (Soccer) for some years of course. So we do have Canberra Raiders in our (NRL National Rugby League) & ACT Australian Capital Territory Brumbies in our Super Rugby in Rugby Union Football Competitions & very next hopefully that Canberra will have both new teams in both A-League Football (Soccer) from &/or by FFA Football Federation Australia) & the (AFL Australian Football League) Competitions also to be based in Canberra as well too of course.
@barrydobson2283
2 ай бұрын
@@user-we8ue9qy9l I thought early this year like in April the FFA backed out of the expansion. I hope I am wrong
canberra has sold out every giants game this year...good sign
@timrozitis961
2 ай бұрын
nimbys shouldn't be too much problem....I don't think there's too much housing too close to Manuka (there's houses across Canberra Ave, but not sure they're too affected)
@barrydobson2283
2 ай бұрын
Oh there is nimbys, it one of the original areas in canberra with old rich retired public servants, it also one of the more expensive parts to live. They complained bitterly with lights going in
@Rdrfan-f6f
Ай бұрын
I can see it now... introducing, the Canberra Cokefiends!
@declanmclaughlin9287
2 ай бұрын
You don't need a 10th big bash team cos they don't really do rounds so would still be no byes
@Hereticals
2 ай бұрын
There's no parking there, and Manuka is one of the biggest NIMBY areas so this should be fun to watch!
@sebastiandalpozzo5362
Ай бұрын
Buses to the games are normally fine.
@jakal0
Ай бұрын
No doubt, it will be in walking-ish distance (800m) from stage 2 of the light rail.
@mikespearwood3914
2 ай бұрын
New Zealanders aren't interested in T20. The Super Smash draws poor crowds.
@EvilKicksMoney
Ай бұрын
Because it is a domestic league
@mikespearwood3914
Ай бұрын
@@EvilKicksMoney Well...most sport leagues around the world are domestic. What's the issue?
@EvilKicksMoney
Ай бұрын
@@mikespearwood3914 it's like Sheffield Shield, premier domestic T20 cricket in sa
@mikespearwood3914
Ай бұрын
@@EvilKicksMoney The BBL gets good crowds, and SAF have a new T20 league. The Sheffield Shield's equivalent in NZ is the Plunket Shield. So not sure what point you're making?
@LlywellynOBrien
2 ай бұрын
No way Canberra can compete in providing BBL's. Drake is not coming here.
@BrisbaneBroncosfan67
2 ай бұрын
Not that BBL
@Joshdyisdifh
2 ай бұрын
Just move Kangaroos to Canberra.
@jeffaustin8112
2 ай бұрын
Move the Giants it’s been 12 years and they still get regular crowds under 10k in Sydney
@user-we8ue9qy9l
2 ай бұрын
@Joshdyisdifh I DON'T that any of the North Melbourne Kangaroos Followers &/or Supporters and especially for those who are living in Melbourne who would (NOT) like the idea of having their very beloved NM Kangaroos Team to be relocated to Canberra at all & hopefully this &/or that will Never Ever be going to happen in the Future at all of course.
@VelvetRiot-hz5mp
Ай бұрын
AFL needs to commit fully to western Sydney and let someone else play out of Canberra. There is a very big population in the west of Sydney and a lot of AFL fans not attending Giants matches. Let's face it, NRL is a lousy spectatcle and soccer a poor reproduction of the Euro product. Like a backyard version of Cirque do Soleil.
@sulty0310
Ай бұрын
What do you mean by lousy spectacle
@BG-id2cv
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, give Canberra their own team. GWS really needs to eventually make Blacktown their home and for god's sake get rid of "Giants" as a name, it is so American...I call them the Goannas, what a great Australian mascot that would be. GO THE GOANNAS!!!
@barrydobson2283
2 ай бұрын
I like the name Wombats, with the charcoal grey, and move to a Ochre orange for the soil they dig up
@jackabbott2202
2 ай бұрын
What about the Greater Western Sydney Goats. Like Blue Mountain State.
@BG-id2cv
2 ай бұрын
@@jackabbott2202 Goats aren't native, they're an introduced species; so NO!!!!
@user-we8ue9qy9l
2 ай бұрын
Yes, very indeed so that I hope that Canberra would establish their very own (AFL Australian Football Team) to be based in Canberra eventually would have their new name called the Canberra Capitals for only (1 One) reason simply because it's our National Capital City of our Country of Australia of course. Also that Canberra has already been granted a licence to enter their new Canberra Team into our Men's A-League Football (Soccer) Competition from &/or by the (FFA Football Federation Australia) by &/or at the end of this year & so far right now that Canberra already do have a Women's A-League Football (Soccer) Competition for a number of years & also joining in both of our Men's & Women's A-League Football (Soccer) Competitions also at the end of this year is another (2nd Second) New Zealand Team which is Auckland along with their Kiwi rivals of the Wellington Phoenix of course.
@BDub2024
2 ай бұрын
Don't worry about Canberra. You don't want any more BBL teams and any AFL team would be propped up. Let the Giants service Canberra and the two Sydney teams.
@barrydobson2283
2 ай бұрын
The AFL prop up all the team in the comp with the broadcast money, last I heard only 6 clubs run at a profit off there own venue streams. Broadcast money gets better when they get more supports watching the game, 500k in the Canberra region has that potential
@BDub2024
2 ай бұрын
@@barrydobson2283 You have some clubs that are really profitable. Others are ok. Then we have a growing number of clubs that are propped up by AFL and other clubs. Now its increasing with Suns GWS Tassie Port Lions Swans Saints Bulldogs Melbourne Hawks North etc... You can't keep adding new teams. You look at the Eagles with big memberships and expensive tickets for fans. Eagles fans are paying extra just so new clubs keep getting added that can't pay their way. Its not sustainable in the end. You'll get the wealthier clubs who have $100 million in the bank turning it around and putting the AFL under pressure. Its pointless getting wealthier on the backs of fans and members and corporate support, and you can't use it to get better. That model won't work long term.
@richardwood9177
2 ай бұрын
@@barrydobson2283 It’s more than that but as clubs divorce themselves from pokies it gets harder. No Sydney NRL clubs turn a profit. They’re all basically bankrupt without Cannel 9 and Foxtel. Too many teams and they still want to expand the leagues. 🤔
@WrinklyTraveller
24 күн бұрын
Canberra won’t be able to sustain a team because nearly every AFL fan in this city already follows another AFL team. I’m a Canberran and I wouldn’t support them.
@canberrapear7219
19 күн бұрын
Isn't that the case wherever a new team goes?
@FreddyJong-co6cb
2 ай бұрын
Afl.No.1 game in australia rugby league shit game aussie rules no.1 😂😂❤😂😂❤😂😂❤😂😂❤❤❤❤❤
@sulty0310
Ай бұрын
Are you an autistic Melbournian
@FreddyJong-co6cb
2 ай бұрын
Melbourne rebels finish Melbourne storm next shit game 😂😂❤❤😂❤😂😂😂❤😂😂😂❤😂😂❤❤❤
@rajivmurkejee7498
2 ай бұрын
Canberra is nowadays a satellite town of Sydney. As voting in elections and refenda clearly show it is very untypical of Australia. Don't give them anything.
@richardwood9177
2 ай бұрын
@@rajivmurkejee7498 Give them 1 stadium. What if you put a Marvel, or something like it, on Lake Burley Griffin or somewhere close to downtown and sold off the other two or made them training/suburban grounds it could work. Invest in the future but don’t redevelop elephants like Manuka or Bruce. A Marvel like stadium could service all codes and, given the size of Canberra, that’s all that they need or can sustain. Doesn’t have to be 50K capacity (but I’d go for 45K to future proof it) but that could help attract test matches, BBL, etc. Movable seating, multi-purpose.
@jackaspley3283
Ай бұрын
Lol what? Just because it's not a typical Australian city it doesn't deserve anything? Very strange comment.
@richardwood9177
Ай бұрын
@@rajivmurkejee7498 It deserves a proper stadium and entertainment precinct. It’s not a satellite town. IT’S the NATIONS CAPITAL!
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