Let’s add to the confusion and add the bronzephonic to equation. Purchased my first 6.5 hammered bronze in 89 and recently add a 8x14 hammered bronze. All of these are great. You really can’t go wrong with a Ludwig metal snare. Most companies are trying to recreate the classics from Ludwig.
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
I like your thinking - that’s one I don’t have in the collection!
@camerondean6804
3 ай бұрын
Hello. Do you like the 6.5 or 8 version of the hammered bronze best?
@wadedixon9890
3 ай бұрын
@@camerondean6804 i like them both. The 8 is more versatile than you think.
@camerondean6804
3 ай бұрын
@@wadedixon9890 Thank you.
@jkozol
3 ай бұрын
True!
@waltgdrums1
3 ай бұрын
To my ears in the medium high to high tunings the Copperphonic kind of destroyed the COB rubber gaskets and all. In the high to cranked tunings, things sort of evened out between them though I have to give the nod to the Copperphonic with it's purer open tone. Both are beautiful drums and Nick I dig your fluid tasteful playing as well as your site content!
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
That’s a great observation! Couldn’t agree more, both are great drums 🥁
@MrDeagunJones
3 ай бұрын
I like the Copperphonic. But they both sound great.
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
I liked the copperphonic, too, though that COB sounded real nice in the medium high tuning. We can all agree though, they both sound great!
@dancalabrese3523
3 ай бұрын
Both sounded really good to me, but I tended to favor the Copper drum. I do have a Pewter Copperphonic in 6.5x14 and it's a really fine drum. I believe it was a limited-edition drum but not certain. Years ago, I had a Black Beauty from the '70's and I wasn't crazy about it and sold it. In fairness, I believe those shells were bronze and not brass in that era.
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
I have that same Pewter copperphonic - it's one of my go-to snares! Sounds like an EQ'ed snare in person, and is unreal. I'd love to see ludwig put it into production
@wuffb
3 ай бұрын
I've played the Copper Phonic, Pearl Exotic, Yamaha Maple Custom, Dennis Chambers Signature, Black Beauty, Rogers . . . a whole bunch on snares . . . it all depends on what you want for your sound . . . I like a high tuning, articulate, warm but phat sounding snare that has a "crack" and can also sound like a "concert" snare drum . . . damn, that's hard to find . . . I ended up with two snares . . . my 1993 Yamaha Maple Custom and my 2020 Benny Greb Signature brass.
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
Totally right, @wuffb - it all comes down to what sound you're looking for. Funny enough, concert snare drums usually come in maple or brass - so I can see what your ear gravitated towards. Both are great to have, and will cover a broad spectrum of sounds just with those 2
@jc3drums916
3 ай бұрын
Honestly, I can't decide between them. They're different, but I can't say which is better. I'd have to hear them in person to make a decision. Maybe it's my crappy laptop speakers, or maybe higher overtones are less audible when recorded, but the COB sounded drier than the copper at the higher tunings.
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
As long as it gets you to question, think, and hear a difference - that's all that matters! I like creating videos that don't tell people things, but help them make the realizations on their own. Hopefully a local shop has both in stock for you to hear in person, and can help you determine which one you prefer!
@emmanuelpascalnaigom6366
2 ай бұрын
That copper sound more warm and explosive for my hear nice 😅
@NickCostaMusic
2 ай бұрын
That's what I hear too, a tad drier as well
@af7119
3 ай бұрын
Your channel is really fun. Super helpful and entertaining!
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
Happy to hear that - thank you for tuning in and following along! 🙏 🥁 What makes it helpful? would love to hear your insight.
@frank.l181
2 ай бұрын
I liked COB for me. I own 90's reissue COB, l eventually replaced the batter with Evans Genera and DW true hoop. Sounds even better !
@NickCostaMusic
2 ай бұрын
I really like the sound of the COB too (at least compared to COA). How did the head and true hoop change the sound - I'm guessing dried the drum up a bit?
@frank.l181
2 ай бұрын
@@NickCostaMusic Yes it did. The hoop is really thick 3mm so it like die cast hoops, the rim shots-loud!The batter cut down on overtones, which l was looking for.
@NickCostaMusic
Ай бұрын
I put a set of 3.0 triple flange hoops on my acrylic kit I built at MCD - they're unreal!
@frank.l181
Ай бұрын
@@NickCostaMusic DW collectors 6.5 ×14 nickle brass is also a gem snare for rock music.
@edgardotoro-quinones6581
3 ай бұрын
Both sound great although, this time, I'm leaning towards the Copper. Why don't you do a Copper vs Bronze comparison ? Thks in advance.
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
Totally agree, both do sound great. That’s a great recommendation! I think I’ll have to find a bronze drum now 🤔
@MarkMonolithOfficial
3 ай бұрын
Great video! Ludwig makes incredible drums, so one can never go wrong with any of their snares or drum kits, but in this particular case, I prefer the Brass. Thanks for taking the time to make this
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more, they’re often imitated but never duplicated! Appreciate you taking the time to check out the video and leave a comment!
@jkozol
3 ай бұрын
Okay you sold me on the Copperphonic. Love how dry it is!
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
It’s a must have for your collection!
@jkozol
3 ай бұрын
Question is should I do Copperphonic or copper acro
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
Copperphonic and acro BRONZE is the way to go!
@jkozol
3 ай бұрын
I ordered a Copperphonic raw!
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
Beautiful drum!
@jamesangel6986
3 ай бұрын
I’m sold on the copper! I think the chrome on the brass dries it out a bit.
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
It’s a great drum a lot look over compared to supraphonic or brass/black beauty. It just delivers! Listening back during the live stream I though the same thing with the COB - especially during the high tuning
@user-tw2ky7tv8h
2 ай бұрын
Great..now I'm not sure if I'll get a 4x14 DW copper or the bell brass. The copper here was easily my favorite.
@NickCostaMusic
2 ай бұрын
I think the copper might be a little cheaper, too - sounds like a win-win to me! What did you like more about the copper over the brass?
@chrisambrose6869
3 ай бұрын
Love this comparison ❤😊
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
Glad you did! What did you think of the snares?
@chrisambrose6869
3 ай бұрын
Loved both but the copperphonic is better in my opinion. I have a 6.5 raw one. It’s great.
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
Oh nice! 6.5 or 7 are my go-to snare depth. I bet that raw copperphonic rips! Does the depth provide a little extra ring compared to the 5 in this video?
@julesplace9107
3 ай бұрын
The Ludwig heads are not "Ludwig branded Remo heads". They are Ludwig heads made by Remo. The difference is that the Ludwig heads use the same proprietary processes, including crimped flesh hoops as used by Ludwig when they made their own. So, it's still the same Ludwig head it always was, just made in a different factory. To go a step further, Gretsch (and some other brands) heads are branded Remo heads. They use standard Remo models but with the respective companies logo.
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
That's great info, thank you for that! I was always under the impression the Ludwig weather master heads were the ludwig heads made by remo, where the ones on both drums in this video were remo heads they added the ludwig logo to like the Gretsch example. That's why in product descriptions it says they come with remo heads. Either way, what did you think of the drums?
@julesplace9107
3 ай бұрын
@@NickCostaMusic Ludwig snare drums are always top notch. Even alot of the really budget line stuff sounds great. Both drums sounded amazing and if I were still on my buying jag I would probably go with both of them. BTW, I hope my tone about the heads didn't seem harsh, I certainly didn't intend it that way.
@NickCostaMusic
2 ай бұрын
Totally agree, if it has Ludwig on it you know it's gonna sound good. I didn't take any offense by your comment on heads, and I hope the same for you with my response. Since we can't hear the tone of one another's voices via comments, I try to be level-headed when reading (unless the comment is clearly negative, of course). I just appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment and have this convo!
@DrummerRIP
3 ай бұрын
Fantastic! I always heard there was mystery behind copper. I picked up my first about a year ago. 6.5 copperphonic raw & it’s incredible. I even removed gaskets. I would love to know your tuning breakdown. High, med-high, low… It’s hard to gauge these differences. I use a drum dial to start & tension evenly up & down from there. How do you define your standards for the different tensions? Excellent work! TY! 10 out of 10! Love the Saturday Snare Series.
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
Yeah - I became a fan of copper when I got the pewter copperphonic a few years back. It sounded like it was EQ’ed in the room. As for tuning, I always follow the same guidelines - tabletop tight for the bottom head, then adjust the top. Top head I’ll finger tighten all tension rods, then do a 1/2 or 3/4 turn on each lug. I’ll tap around each tension point and see if the drum resonates. If not, I’ll turn another 1/4 turn. Once the drum opens up, then I know that’s a good starting point with low tuning. From there, I’ll do a 1/4 turn on each lug to get from one tuning to the next. As for tuning labels, I relate it to the other tunings. Hope this helps, and thank you for leaving a comment! 🙏 🥁
@DrummerRIP
3 ай бұрын
@@NickCostaMusic Yes, this is great. Thank you again Nick. 🙏🏻🤓
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
Of course! Thank you for the comment 🥁 🥁
@JulianFernandez
3 ай бұрын
thanks for sharing
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@that-avr-drummer
3 ай бұрын
COB for me
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
That’s a great choice! What made the COB stand out more than the copperphonic?
@that-avr-drummer
3 ай бұрын
@@NickCostaMusic throaty crack and a little brighter
@NickCostaMusic
2 ай бұрын
Totally agree!
@stanfordkoch1271
3 ай бұрын
Copperphonic for me
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
Sounds super solid in all tunings. What did you like most about it?
@NelsonMontana1234
2 ай бұрын
To be honest, I'm not a fan of brass snare drums. They sound clunky to me. I'll take chrome, steel, wood, acrolite even plexiglass over brass. So in this comparison, he copper is sweeter and more musical.
@NickCostaMusic
2 ай бұрын
Totally understand - brass can have some harsh and long overtones that can be a bit overbearing.
@JeffHogue-em6zx
3 ай бұрын
Hey, uh, it has been proven that 80% of the sound coming out of a drum is due to the drum head.
@NickCostaMusic
3 ай бұрын
It has? Mind sharing where this was discovered - I’d love to read up on it! That leaves 20% of the sound made up from shell material, depth + diameter of shell, hoop type, weight of hardware, bearing edge of drum, even gaskets behind the lugs. Not saying the drum head doesn’t affect the sound, though 80% sounds like a bit of a stretch.
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