After trying the MG4, GWM Ora and the BYD dolphin we ended up with the Ora. Fit and finish felt more premium than the mg, and the drive felt more comfortable than the mg but more sporty than the dolphin. I think it’s great that there are 3 cheap alternatives that are very similar on price but also very different on execution. If I was the only driver I’d go the mg, but my partner found it too harsh and as a passenger I could never get comfortable, the dolphin was a little too cramped in the back for my size (I’d hit my head on the back of the pano roof if I lent forward). Horses for courses and we have no regrets so far.also $99/yr servicing helped the decision
@lozzyloulou1
10 ай бұрын
What about charging time and battery range. This seemed less on the Ora compared to others?
@05tep
10 ай бұрын
@@lozzyloulou1 we will only be charging at home, so charge rate is the same as the others and we also got a free home charger as part of the deal. Range is similar to the others at the similar battery size.
@waynehobbs5175
10 ай бұрын
Boot was shockingly small on Ora. Otherwise its a good car.
@05tep
10 ай бұрын
@@waynehobbs5175 I’m coming from a mini convertible, that makes the Ora’s boot cavernous 😄
@mondotv4216
10 ай бұрын
@@05tepThe motor's a bit underpowered for the weight of the vehicle. Reports of it overheating on long climbs resulting in restricted power (Bjorn Nyland in Thailand). I wouldn't touch it for that reason, even though I love the design. Jonny Smith (Late Brake Show) had one in England on a long term 6 month deal and complained about not being able to turn off LKA between drives (and it's in a menu) and it was continually trying to steer him into hedges on their narrow roads plus he said the bongs were excessive. Be interested on your initial impressions and after 6 months or so.
@1MrBryn
10 ай бұрын
I drove the base model. It's very slow, but not awful around town as it accelerates fine enough up to 50kph. My beef is I just couldn't get comfy in it like I could in the Ora and the MG. Interior space is excellent, but the adjustment available in the (narrow!) seats and steering wheel just means if you're over 6ft tall you really are going to struggle to find an ideal driving position. But for most people it's a very nice place to be
@alexfekken7599
10 ай бұрын
Thank you for actually checking out and reporting on the Dynamic's performance. Hardly any "reviewers" do that but simply reject it outright. And I agree that 0-50 numbers are much more relevant for a city car than 0-100 (unless you are a hoooligan of course)
@user-ec7dc7hh9o
9 ай бұрын
That front dash with those ugly air vents like a cross between a beauty parlour hair dryer and a sea shell, should be nominated for the Edsel Hall of Fame for “what the Heck” design.
@davidgorman6385
10 ай бұрын
I have had my Dolphin premium for 2 weeks. So far, so good with the car, I have already had one over air update (OTU). The only issues have been with the BYD app not being fully functional. Some features on the app work fine, while others just error. Also, since the OTU, the pedestrian warning sound stopped working in standard mode. On my testing with a 22kw type 2 charging cable, the inbuilt AC charger is limited to single phase 7kw. Not 3phase 11kw as reported in this video and on overseas models. So far I am very happy with car itself. However, the same can't be said for BYD Australia (EV Direct)'s customer service. It was very hit and miss whilst buying the car and terrible since. Their main focus seems to be on getting sales and not on after sales service. (Which is a shame) I would be keen to hear from other Dolphin owner's on their experience and if they are having similar issues. As I can't get any answers from BYD.
@paulo3564
10 ай бұрын
Paulo from Brazil. The same problem. After Sales Services are not good. Disappointment.
@marcuslee8253
10 ай бұрын
Marcus from Sydney. I have contacted the customer care several times on different issues since acquiring my Atto 3 about a month ago. My verdict is they are not excellent, but good.
@remakeit2628
10 ай бұрын
Atto 3 owner for a year and BYD customer service experience lacks accessibility and timeliness. When they finally get to your issue they are thorough. EV Direct are skimping on tyre quality to make a better profit, but will lose out on sales volume now that there is real segment competition. Very petty approach and reinforces profit rather than service ethic.
@leonkernan
10 ай бұрын
I went with the MG4 51, the biggest letdown so far is the software. It’s manageable, but nowhere near as refined as the BYD looks.
@jasonrhl
9 ай бұрын
We have MG64 and the software is fine.
@t8polestarcyan22
8 ай бұрын
As for hardware, there is no substitute for independent suspension esp. MG4s' rear multi-link. And yes the Excite 51 have the same rear multi-link as.... Long Range Essense 77!
@andrewmclean6555
10 ай бұрын
I drove the MG4 X Power. Absolute rocket. The issue I have is build quality. Guy in QLD with a ZS had a universal joint on the steering column fail. They don’t charge at all chargers. There are reports of rust in some cars. In the UK the MG4 has oil leaks at the back somewhere. The underfloor tray can buckle. The dash had to be replaced on one car because two bolts started to show marking on top. The lane keep assist is awful and can pull you out of the lane! Worse still, a Melbourne driver had the car suddenly do an emergency brake and come to a complete stop for no reason. Caught it on dash cam. Find it on KZitem. They’re cheap, but there’s a reason why they’re cheap. The brand new X Power I drove had to be opened by the key because the fob wasn’t working. It still had dealer trade plates on it too. Not even registered. As John Cadogan says, let someone else be the lab rat for these new cars, specifically BYD.
@ruddaga82
10 ай бұрын
I ended up getting the rocket on a novated lease. If I have issues in 5 years, i'll just trade it in. For the mean time - hitting 60 in 1 second on every red light I get is a blast.... I have a feeling my speeding fines are about to go up though D:
@zoltrix7779
10 ай бұрын
@@ruddaga82 Not sure how having a car constantly in dealer is good even if its under warranty.
@ruddaga82
10 ай бұрын
@@zoltrix7779 Well its spent exactly 0 days in the dealer so far. I'll do updates every month to keep you posted since you're invested so much in a car you don't have.
@leonkernan
10 ай бұрын
@@ruddaga82not going to lie, it’s bringing out the boy racer in me, need to learn to tone it down.
@mondotv4216
10 ай бұрын
@@zoltrix7779And I've had an Atto 3 for 11 months with zero issues. John Cadogan is a know it all, opinionated dinosaur who's been through 6 wives because you can only take him in KZitem sized doses.
@narvuntien
10 ай бұрын
I sat in the Dolphin and it was very comfortable. The MG4 is soft touch but the Dolphin was actually soft. I think if you want comfort I think this is the top pick, but it does seem like the MG4 is better to drive.
@fatdoi003
9 ай бұрын
is the Dolphin build quality better than MG4?
@narvuntien
9 ай бұрын
They both have good build quality @@fatdoi003
@waynehobbs5175
10 ай бұрын
The tester should know that BYD deliberately have regen in the brake pedal as well, not just from backing off the accelerator. People transitioning from say a Corolla auto to a Dolphin will find it easyto adapt because the regen isn't only in the accelerator releasing. Sute this spec is $12k dearer than a mid spec Corolla but much better equipped and with a bigger boot.
@chasingcars
10 ай бұрын
I do know that. Nearly every BEV has blended regenerative / physical braking, some better than others. My comments refer to regeneration when off-throttle.
@fatdoi003
9 ай бұрын
every reviewer thinks regen 'has' to comply with tesla 1 pedal standard if not, it ain't regen..... little do they know drivers like myself like to naturally coast off pedal and apply brake if necessary for smoother driving as i like to control my acceleration, coasting and braking by myself not dictated by car's regen system
@user-to8wr4vv9z
9 ай бұрын
In China, you can see Dolphin cars everywhere on the road, but you can't see MG because MG's reputation in China is not very good. In the ranking of all car sales in China in October 2023, Dolphin ranked 11th, reaching 24,735 units. And it ranks 7th in the electric vehicle rankings.The Dolphin car has 5 configuration options in China. The lowest configuration is 95 HP, the maximum mileage is 420km, and the highest configuration is 177 HP. The price ranges from 116,800 to 139,800 yuan (US$16,400 to 19,500 US dollars).🙃
@user-to8wr4vv9z
9 ай бұрын
So its selling price outside of China is ridiculously high😅
@saintza
10 ай бұрын
When I picked up my Atto3 I asked how long the free data sim was for and they said 2 years, so it's probably going to be the same for the Dolphin
@Erikkrols
9 ай бұрын
I always miss the turning circle in this kind of reviews. I think it is important, moreover when we talk about city cars
@james_l4337
10 ай бұрын
Max regeneration is max only when u press on the brake pedal! Brake pedal is ebrake, only a sudden hard foot brake will a physical brake be applied. This has been mentioned many times, but the channels still don't get this
@guysolomon7904
10 ай бұрын
I just bought a used Nissan Leaf ZE1 import from Japan for $27k. Top of the line model with all the bells and whistles, 88% battery after 5 years and near new condition - definitely worth looking at the used market for EV's when you can save like $20k.
@rjbiker66
10 ай бұрын
It's 5 yrs old. Has a small battery, slow charging and an orphan charging standard.
@guysolomon7904
10 ай бұрын
@@rjbiker66 it's still got heaps of tech, charges fast enough and the battery range is more than enough for my usage. There's also plenty of chademos chargers around still if I need one, including one less than 10 minutes from my house - it's not going to be for everyone, but I love the car and none of the issues raised have been an issue while owning it
@yjs
10 ай бұрын
Sorry no thanks, much rather a new modern EV
@GlowingTube
10 ай бұрын
It also lacks active battery cooling so in hot climates like ours it means that the battery dies young. I would avoid one like the plague... I hope you have a good ownership experience.
@mondotv4216
10 ай бұрын
How are you finding the software after the translation of the car from the Japanese market. I have heard there's been issues with getting the language and screens right for Australia? Also, how is $27K a good deal for a 5 year old EV with 40kWh battery? As the battery is the primary cost in an EV if you compare that to the 60kWh battery in the Dolphin then that accounts for almost $15K in value right there. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're happy with the car but it certainly isn't a bargain.
@jeremybean-hodges6397
10 ай бұрын
This is one of those cars which is seriously hobbled by its stylists. It already looks about 10 years old IMO. Looks a bit like a modern Austin Allegro.
@NickHey
10 ай бұрын
Seems like a great car to get if your using it to go to work and home with a bit of "picking the kids up from school" and "lets go shopping!" Was there a definite winner in terms of things like ease of parking, turning circle, visibility etc?
@Max_Toovey0308
10 ай бұрын
That’s exactly how we use our Tesla. Have an ICE vehicle for long trips where a supercharger isn’t available along the way. The long term savings for the cost to run the cars are MASSIVE. ICE car barely gets driven at all.
@honestjohn6222
10 ай бұрын
Be great to see a comparison between dolphin premium and mg4 62 kw roughly same price , the only thing that I don’t like on the mg4 62 kw is the Battery
@gregj7916
6 ай бұрын
Unclear why Australia is getting all these fixed glass roofs, heat penetration is an everyday issue as is exposure to the brutal Australian sun….
@fatdoi003
9 ай бұрын
last week i saw 2 Dolphins around my suburbs already.... next year lots of sea creatures will be roaming the roads.. dolphins, seals also for a city car, i don't really care about great handling as long as i can squirt quickly to the next lane in the traffic jam i'll be very happy
@markgrondek5311
10 ай бұрын
Wondering about the fixed headrests on the front seats. Just sitting in the or a short test drive the seats seem ok, but was able to have an extended drive of the Atto & the headrest made it hard to find the just right seat position. No having seat position memory is a it annoy too.
@user-ec7dc7hh9o
9 ай бұрын
Didn’t test drive the Dolphin, no local dealership, and no local expertise for support, servicing, sales and that 2 tone paint job is NOT easy to look at. It would need to be a huge amount less expensive to spark my interest at all. The MG does have a local dealer, was available to test drive for a company we already know and like, it drives really well, the styling is good, the reviews are consistently mostly positive.
@SteveKing938
9 ай бұрын
Name me a new or secondhand 40k car with the same level of tech and interior. Even hyundais and mazdas are getting expensive for the average aussie these days. Imo the dolphin offers great value.
@t8polestarcyan22
10 ай бұрын
MG4 Excite 51 - Rear Multi-link suspension BYD Dolphin standard/short range - Rear Torsion beam Rear independent suspension contributes to high level of driving, stability and comfort so the MG 4 Excite is for me.
@fatdoi003
9 ай бұрын
base model, MG, next up, BYD
@t8polestarcyan22
8 ай бұрын
@@fatdoi003 More expensive long range BYD Dolphin have rear multi-link ie. you either get a MG 4 Excite 51 or settle for a top (or at least a better) model of BYD Dolphin. There is absolutely no substitute for independent suspension.
@fatdoi003
8 ай бұрын
@@t8polestarcyan22 that's exactly what I mean.... Basic MG4 and any upper models Dolphin or even Seal
@t8polestarcyan22
8 ай бұрын
@@fatdoi003 Basically if I'm rather tight @^$ed I might as well get a MG 4 Excite or otherwise get an upper model of Dolphin. No actually I might as well settle for a MG 4 Essence 64, you'll get a lot more toys than both Excite 51 and Excite 64. MG 4s look a lot better than BYD Dolphins anyway.
@TheBruthaDave
9 ай бұрын
I will wait a little longer for the Kona EV.
@TassieEV
10 ай бұрын
Like the Dolphin but it does come in a pink colour(coral maybe their official term) and people have bought it. I like a different colour option and even the Atto 3 interior I like, different to the majority of cars on the road which are almost boring in my view. But those types of things are subjective anyway. I'd change the tyres to the Hankook Ion EV ones which are amazing and will make the drive quieter and improve efficiency from the unknown brand on them now, thought they were putting Conti's on them though.
@trythis2821
9 ай бұрын
Atto 3 interior is try hard. Dolphin looks toned down a bit in a good way.
@trdi
9 ай бұрын
The panoramic roof, does it have any shading option? What happens with a strong direct sun if not?
@robochan0970
9 ай бұрын
Sat in the Dolphin today which was parked in full sun. Can confirm it has a built in motorized sun shade 👍
@rcast3763
9 ай бұрын
If they can have the same drive train with the Dynamic, but with base specs. No sunroof, manual and cloth seats with reverse camera and blind spot monitoring. Then price ($30,000) it same as Kia Cerato S with Safety pack, this will break the car industry!
@LouDeVere
9 ай бұрын
We have the BYD Atto 3 and we’re looking at the Dolphin as a second car. We absolutely love the Atto 3 with the exception of the interior design and wish it could look more like the Dolphin. Drink bottles are a real problem because of lack of storage in the doors, due to the stupid guitar design theme used. That aside, the car is impressive. Not at all happy with the BUILD YOUR DREAMS emblazoned on the back of the Dolphin which is not going to be easy or possible to remove unlike the Atto 3. I sat in the MG 4 at fully charged Sydney in February and really didn’t like it although I know it has merit from reviewers.
@fatdoi003
9 ай бұрын
what about the Seal?
@johnbgood3488
9 ай бұрын
Can EVDirect justify the servicing costs of the Dolphin...$189..$370..$189..$447...$189...$370...$189...$447 for the 8 years.
@Clove_Parma
10 ай бұрын
Hey Tom, any word when you’ll be reviewing the Seal?
@Peter-vn8ue
10 ай бұрын
It won't happen until late December or early January. The first batch of seal sedans are meant to arrive before Christmas, depending on what options buyers selected when placing their order.
@keikc123
10 ай бұрын
same boat, price bewteen Seal Dynamic and Dolphin premium only 4K
@Clove_Parma
10 ай бұрын
Reckon there's a good chance it'll be earlier.@@Peter-vn8ue. Tom Posted the Atto 3 video in September 2022, same month as deliveries started. Wouldn't be surprised if they got hold of a review unit in the first batch. Fingers crossed, no matter either way
@devvynully
10 ай бұрын
What exactly are they servicing for $1350 over 5 years?
@theairstig9164
10 ай бұрын
Servicing your wallet
@PsychedMedia
10 ай бұрын
The 5k is just inspection, 20k is cabin filter, 40k is cabin+brake fluid+reducer oil, 60k is cabin, 80k is cabin+brake fluid + reducer oil+coolant+ac refrigerant
@trythis2821
9 ай бұрын
Themselves, you are getting taken for a ride.
@justice4g
10 ай бұрын
FWD? next
@stizzygrayson5541
10 ай бұрын
5k overpriced
@twinrotors
10 ай бұрын
Insurance cost?
@rjbiker66
10 ай бұрын
How much is insurance for one of these? I have heard more than $1500 per year.
@chasingcars
10 ай бұрын
I don't have enough data to present a quote on our end yet
@james_l4337
10 ай бұрын
A new car, depending on driver age, driver rating, etc. Also max premium Not surprising over $1,500 Any new cars "ICE" is same BudgetDirect insurance Tesla will be $1,000+ more to insure in Aus unfortunately
@zoltrix7779
10 ай бұрын
The SIM is from Telstra? And how does that pretain to coverage? Is it the full Telstra 4G network? It could just be like many Telstra MVO's, they don't get the whole network, only one to do so is Boost.
@leonkernan
10 ай бұрын
That’s a boost over the mg4 on Vodafone where the app becomes useless as soon as you leave Melbourne.
@andrewmclean6555
10 ай бұрын
I drove it a day ago. Massive torque steer and spins the front wheels when you put your foot down….and it was dry. Much better appointed than the MG4 and more of a finished product though. Sound system was just Ok. If you want a cheap electric car to drive as a normal runabout this is not too bad. Probably better than the MG4. The MG4 is a better drivers car but not as nice on the inside as the Dolphin. Reliability and support are still the question marks on these two brands. The new Seal in the Alexandria show room already has a drivers seat that feels like it’s coming loose and clicks and moves under you. Maybe the Kona Electric or Volvo EX30 are worth waiting for….if not probably more expensive. Personally I want the VW ID2.ALL in GTI form. Come on Wolfsburg…hurry up or you’ll be left behind!!!! (It may already be in ok late)
@TheYoyoma3
10 ай бұрын
Volvo, VW, any euros will be easily $60k plus so not even in the same category as these cheaper EV
@rjbiker66
10 ай бұрын
If you want a city runabout then the MG4 51 Excite is all you need and much cheaper than the Dolphin Premium.
@andrewmclean6555
10 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree, but I’d pay more for quality and piece of mind with big, established brands.
@justice4g
10 ай бұрын
can't believe we have to put up with FWD because all the weirdos that choose to live where it snows
@trythis2821
9 ай бұрын
Or you could get a Tesla with the highest buyer retention of any EV brand.
@gfabie4901
Ай бұрын
That's a thankfully more somber interior color scheme.
@harveybirdman74
10 ай бұрын
If it was $35k driveaway it might be worth it
@liangli4956
10 ай бұрын
It costs aud$30300 in China. Top spec
@trythis2821
9 ай бұрын
@@liangli4956 Yes but has to be imported (tax and importers profit) RHD version could cost more to make so $35K in Australia would be a realistic price.
@GlowingTube
10 ай бұрын
Tombstone seats, still a very high price for a small hatch, tiny boot, no armrest console, no rear air vents, no spare tyre, fast charge speeds are ok but could be better, poor tyres, terrible distribution arrangement in Australia with one of the worst new warranties and stupidly expensive servicing for an EV. BYD will need to ditch AP Eagers distribution and to sharpen their pencil on pricing for me to buy this over an i30 hatch. Then again, if you want an EV, the MG4 and the Dolphin are good choices. My pick is the MG4 as it is rear drive and MG is a factory direct operation unlike BYD.
@kodessa
10 ай бұрын
I thought frunks would be standard on EVs
@JoshuaMcTackett
10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately not. Tesla has good frunks, Lucid has Amazing frunks, Kia and Hyundai have pointlessly small frunks and BYD and MG both have this strange unused gap in between parts in the bonnet that would be perfect for a frunk with a bit more thought, but isn’t used. 🫠
@ETERNITY777
10 ай бұрын
🤑 HOW MUCH IS BATTERY REPLACEMENT COST AND DEPRECIATION 🤑
@napoleonnz
10 ай бұрын
I would look into the cost of leasing an EV in Australia because medium term depreciation is still unknown and unprovable at present. Also servicing and repair does not yet appear to be up and running efficiently, particularly for Chinese made EV's.
@ulfw
10 ай бұрын
I just can't get over the fact how incredibly hideous and boring the front looks. Like a 1980s compact car.
@MrBenHaynes
10 ай бұрын
I prefer it to over stylised and fussy front ends.
@waynehooton6154
7 ай бұрын
Yes, many cars now have front ends that there's just too much going on. The Dolphin looks clean.
@SeagullWaterPurifier
10 ай бұрын
Crapola 💩 a new version of the Homer 😂
@zoltrix7779
10 ай бұрын
Another front wheel drive EV lemon. Can't read the screen with polarised glasses? How is that possible to miss?
@chasingcars
10 ай бұрын
At least it is all fine in landscape orientation, I guess…
@MrBenHaynes
10 ай бұрын
Correct, and Apple CarPlay doesn't work in portrait orientation.@@chasingcars
@markdotcomau
10 ай бұрын
BYD = Burn Your Driveway
@ricosun
10 ай бұрын
This car in China outsells the MG4 30:1
@theairstig9164
10 ай бұрын
For a really good reason. BYD owns the market. Think Chinese Toyota
@james_l4337
10 ай бұрын
MG4 is wider, Dolphin easier to drive for a narrower small car in the crowded narrow street Also BYD has LFP battery MG4 higher grade are Not LFP LFP safer then NCM NCA ternary battery If sodium battery are selling... No news then sodium battery is one to go for if they can last long Sodium battery for home energy storage is a Must for safety
@AllInVehicleInspections
10 ай бұрын
40-50 grand, you can get a cheap petrol car for 20 and then spend the rest on running costs for the next 25 years.
@Dan4096
10 ай бұрын
Or you can have an EV and have some improvement on local air quality, never have to go to a petrol station again, etc.
@HuntaKiller91
10 ай бұрын
True Just buy a decent geely for $15-20k
@AllInVehicleInspections
10 ай бұрын
@Dan4096 that's a choice you are able to make, still not a "cheap" vehicle for the masses yet.
@milkoowen6800
10 ай бұрын
Yet you are driving a crappy petrol with crappy interior. Not everyone has to live on the very edge of poverty.
@Peter-vn8ue
10 ай бұрын
Or invest the 20 grand in a decent solar system with a battery and charge your Ev for free and be the master of your energy needs with zero ongoing costs and not handing your money both in petrol and electricity over to the fossil fuel industry.
@yslee1401
10 ай бұрын
No way, no Chinese cars please
@stevep9041
10 ай бұрын
When you compare Chinese cars against Chinese cars we’re in trouble.
@nostradamus2642
10 ай бұрын
Chinese cars are killing Hyundai and Kia both facing global recalls and litigation over spontaneous fires and dangerous faults. Recall notices every second day. LOL
@wanderingwalle8726
10 ай бұрын
90% of EVs sold here are made in china
@trythis2821
9 ай бұрын
People thought the same about Japanese then Korean cars once. Chinese cars are fast improving.
@ETERNITY777
10 ай бұрын
🤑 HOW MUCH IS BATTERY REPLACEMENT COST AND DEPRECIATION 🤑
@trythis2821
9 ай бұрын
Look it up and report back. Hint the BYD blade battery should last the life of the car.
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