"Name something more satisfying than shooting a Rocket with a Mech." How about... shooting a Rocket with a Mech... _from Mountains?_
@DS-tv2fi
3 жыл бұрын
How about shooting a pipe runner with a mech.
@Awootistic
3 жыл бұрын
Not as satisfying since rockets don't shoot back.
@amanofnoreputation2164
3 жыл бұрын
Shooting a rocket with a Sami mech.
@royalghost4914
3 жыл бұрын
@@amanofnoreputation2164 shooting a rocket as a sensei mech
@povertyville
3 жыл бұрын
@@royalghost4914 shooting a rocket as a Lash mech on mountains while prime tactics is active
@last_dutch_hero258
3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact : Colin's -10% firepower comes, in the lore "from his lack of experience". You know, it kinda reflects on Colin "mains"
@purplekt1722
3 жыл бұрын
I always thought that was because his units were "Made in China" for lack of a better term. Like, the weapons and vehicles were manufactured cheaply, so their quality suffered.
@siddharthnandi3995
3 жыл бұрын
@@purplekt1722 Same.
@ardantop132na6
2 жыл бұрын
@@purplekt1722 I think it's reflective of USSR considering Blue Moon is based off USSR with conscripts (cheap recruitment cost, lack of training) and mass-produced tanks (usually cut the corner to speed up production). **Stares at Med. Tanks (T-72, T-90 MBTs) pictures of their turret flying**
@huyhoangtahuu9733
2 жыл бұрын
@@ardantop132na6 that not a very fair comparison consider T-72 and T-90( which is just a modernised T-72) are both pretty old tank platform from cold war , you gotta remembered that for it time of debut the T-72 is a really good tank whose Western counter part are Leopard 1 , M60 , Chieftain ,... All of which are completely out class by the T-72 infact for a good part of the cold war NATO was playing catch up until the Abrams/Challenger tank which are way after the T-72.
@ardantop132na6
2 жыл бұрын
@@huyhoangtahuu9733 I just wanna say that old doesn't always mean obsolete (M2 Browning is still do a good job being HMG, century years old). I think in theory, T-72 and T-90 could fight Abrams (if not for Depleted Uranium armor) and Challenger. And the reason I put the T-72 / T-90 is a jab towards Russian tank that were destroyed a lot as if Colin were commanding them.
@sidanngo7726
3 жыл бұрын
Don't mess with us Colin mains, we have more digits in our bank accounts than braincells
@TheBikeOnTheMoon
3 жыл бұрын
you made my day sir XD
@vodkawhisperer3923
3 жыл бұрын
amen
@mk-ultraviolence1760
3 жыл бұрын
so you have 10$?
@KnownAsKenji
3 жыл бұрын
Colin mains invested in Gamestop.
@gabrielmoralesgonzalez6471
3 жыл бұрын
That is like an insult for the other Colin players that are actually good Colin players.
@lordpent
3 жыл бұрын
"That rocket has shot on me many times, I don't know why I didn't notice it" "They should have known I had a rocket, I used it to shoot on them"
@Aodhanbaby
3 жыл бұрын
Manga Moment
@MrGreenTabasco
3 жыл бұрын
@@Aodhanbaby At this time, the massive difference between his moves and that of his oponent are part of the charme for me :)
@gigastrike2
3 жыл бұрын
One of the downsides of AWBW not showing combat scenes.
@grimrapper5202
3 жыл бұрын
Tbh usually you're expecting an artillery when some indirect hit you on the frontline While Mangs'es Rocket is literally near a captured base, which should be obvious
@hanswurst5109
3 ай бұрын
The duality of man
@Panzergraf
3 жыл бұрын
Colin's Battle Copters cost 7200, so less than your AA. Building copters to force your opponent to build AA is actually not a bad move for a Colin player, provided you can lure the enemy AA out into range of your indirects.
@Mangs1337
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. This player however, just kept running his battle copters into my anti-air. I guess he was hoping to drain their ammo? Sounds like something a Colin player would do.
@Anonie324
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mangs1337 That's peak Zapp Brannigan logic.
@WetBoy
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mangs1337 actually battle copters cam take a good engagement on anti air provided that the anti air attacks first.
@Direblade11
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mangs1337 Please make an AWBW Discord! People who can't fight you could fight eachother, and it would help grow/improve the community.
@Panzergraf
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mangs1337 So you're saying Jess is the hard counter to Colin? Hmm.
@Mixa_Lv
3 жыл бұрын
One tip you didn't mention: against Colin, do as much damage as possible when he is using his power. While his power is active, any damage he receives won't build up his power meter, and it's so valuable since the units he builds with his power will generate even more power meter and it snowballs like crazy it's so stupid :[ it's basically the only way to get rid of his units permanently, otherwise they just keep regenerating.
@Komatik_
3 жыл бұрын
Should apply to Sensei and Hachi, too, no?
@TheManofthecross
2 жыл бұрын
I usually go as colin for the power of money super and go for the firepower boost to flatten people but let's not forget the legendary match between colin and kembi colin's green troops v kembi's imperial guard. :P
@Buzzy_Bland
2 жыл бұрын
@@Komatik_ It honestly applies to just general gameplay. If you can launch a punishing counterattack while your enemy is using their power, they won’t get anything out of it.
@MrMarinus18
2 жыл бұрын
Also important to apply pressure at all times. Part of what makes Colin so strong is that his power has no cap. If you have a million funds you will get half a million from his power. If you don't force Colin to spend all his money then it will just build up and he'll eventually crush you.
@Tzizenorec
2 жыл бұрын
Mangs demonstrated in this video that if you can beat Colin on unit count by a wide enough margin, you don't need to beat him on unit value too.
@DemonFox369
3 жыл бұрын
This is why Andy is a great introduction commander to the game. Play like Andy. Save your units.
@SoulHero7
3 жыл бұрын
I really wish Andy had Rachel's day to day power of +1 repair on cities. It fits so well with his healing based CO Powers.
@gicrueldad9520
3 жыл бұрын
@@SoulHero7 It fits with his overall character tho, I actually remember playing AW2 and think that Andy needed that Day2Day power without knowing Rachel existed and did that xd.
@kiknstudio7721
3 жыл бұрын
I'm Andy main all day
@garagavia
3 жыл бұрын
@@SoulHero7 That would be anti-synergistic with his power and super, because on a turn where he wants to use them to repair, any unit on building would spend lots of funds to be repaired, reducing the value of his hyper repair or hyper upgrade significantly.
@SoulHero7
3 жыл бұрын
@@garagavia That's also another reason I want him to have that day-to-day power. For novices, it makes them quickly realize the advantages of repairing units to hold positions and the disadvantages of repairing units because of bad planning. Learning this lesson early on a CO that can both cover your mistakes and press the advantage with the same CO Power is worth it imo.
@NCHProductions
3 жыл бұрын
Black hole clone colin "so I build my battleship as a glorified black cannon and start blasting" also "whats a recon?"
@LucentCross
3 жыл бұрын
Ah i forgot that you like advance war to point you make short with wargroves
@theoutlander1411
3 жыл бұрын
Rich people play by a whole different set of rules.
@grimrapper5202
3 жыл бұрын
"I don't need recon vision if I have 6-range battleship, right?"
@LordTyph
3 жыл бұрын
Smart Colin Players "Alright, I've still got a good few recons around, all of them with solid health, and with all the money I've saved, I can make some Md. Tanks to back them up and clear the way for my infantry, and the fighter I just made can help wipe out their harassing B. Copters..."
@varodleus
3 жыл бұрын
Recon is too cheap. Rush megatanks!
@snowdude635
3 жыл бұрын
1:49 "You don't want to use Prime Tactics. Instead use Prime Tactics"
@korhol2065
3 жыл бұрын
Oofffffff
@temkin9298
3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the situation
@grimrapper5202
3 жыл бұрын
At least he say "use her super"
@LanEXHikari
3 жыл бұрын
Mangs dislikes terrain tactics so much he doesn't even pronounce its name 🤣
@truegamer_007
3 жыл бұрын
I love Metroid Prime
@arlondelfar1500
2 жыл бұрын
Aaah, I love Mangs-math. "In addition to having 20% more troops, because they are 20% cheaper." Mangs. Just... no. It's actually 25% more troops. The math behind it is pretty simple (solve: 0.8*p=1), but to make it easier to visualize, you can think about it this way: with 4000 funds any CO will get 4 infantry, but Colin will get 5 (25% more). The confusion is here because calculating costs with percentages is not entirely intuitional (e.g. the current price is 50% higher than the old one, so it means the old price was 33% lower than the current one; a lot of people get caught out on things like this) Still, love all of your videos on AW (not much of an FE fan here) and I'm slowly going through the older ones, so I might throw some random comments in the older vids here and there.
@Mangs1337
2 жыл бұрын
Nerd
@arlondelfar1500
2 жыл бұрын
@@Mangs1337 Actually, yes xD. Maths was always my strong point. That and programming :D
@lienesauserde7419
Жыл бұрын
Yes but how do you get more infantry if you don’t have enough bases to get them
@VonKrauzer
Жыл бұрын
@@lienesauserde7419ah, yes! Colin should have bases of his own!
@tacticalstampede5678
3 жыл бұрын
Coming from Days of Ruin, where they teach you early on not to just throw away your soldiers' lives, just to see Colin throwing them into the meat grinder is honestly depressing.
@tacticalstampede5678
3 жыл бұрын
@Simple Weirdo That explains why Sasha deletes CO Powers, and why she teaches Colin in Dual Strike. She's seen how Caulder works.
@liutenantdouble-yefreitor
3 жыл бұрын
Coming from days of ruin, that battleship scared the crap out of me... I still have nightmares of that one time my brother managed to defeat me with sigismundo or whatever his name is in the other version.
@purpledragon2442
3 жыл бұрын
Yo I remember that game. Screw that pompadour wearing jerk with the aviators. Also I’m new to this channel, how’s mangs playing this game online? Is it some fan project like that fire emblem sacred stones one I heard of?
@tacticalstampede5678
3 жыл бұрын
@@purpledragon2442 He's playing through Advance Wars By Web. He put the link in the description.
@Jebu911
Жыл бұрын
he was roleplaying as early ww2 russian general.
@Kralex121
3 жыл бұрын
I love that the most expensive units tend to have garbage vision. It can be pretty tempting to buy the big guns, but they can't do shit if you don't have the cheap stuff to support them.
@Albortomagico
3 жыл бұрын
Between the fact that Mangs uses lots of black hole COs and the fact that he is really good (never immagined that i would say this phrase) makes me think Mangs is actually Sturm
@ultimafia
3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen Mangs and Sturm in a room together? I think not.
@Albortomagico
3 жыл бұрын
@@ultimafia new video: "why Sturm is my true main in AW"
@gregorylu
3 жыл бұрын
Mangs is below the starting elo in AWBW ranked games lol.
@asurveillancecamera3392
3 жыл бұрын
No, Rachel is Sturm.
@lagg1e
3 жыл бұрын
@@gregorylu He is below starting elo? Does that mean under the 50% cutoff? That really surprises me, even if I notice mistakes and stuff. On the other hand, he showed in a recent Fire Emblem death compilation that he ended his own run by bringing Elincia to the final mission.
@I-ONLY-BUILD-MECHS-AND-DUSTERS
3 жыл бұрын
He may have been too aggressive. One of Colin's strengths is the unstoppable snowball he can get rolling, but it takes time and he was too reckless with his units starting with those 3 first tanks. Also, Lash flourishes in defensive situations where she can play around properties she controls and thrives on baiting the opponent near her good terrain. By playing more cautiously he could force Lash to take worse engagements on open ground while he himself snowballed his army way faster than Lash could.
@agentnorth2758
3 жыл бұрын
Aye, the early game and even mid game can be dangerous for a Colin until you have a death ball... however late game, when Colin just has a line of Md. Tanks and B. Copters that doesn't seem to end that's when you know you've got it because you can start making bad trades because you will replace anything you lose.. the other can't (Colin is more like the Soviet Unions industry in WWII)
@peterhardie4151
3 жыл бұрын
Its often strategic mistakes and not tactical that are most costly. Good analysis.
@junkszy912
3 жыл бұрын
Hey manga I did the test to determine how lash and Sonja's super effect each other in dual strike. TLDR it based of who uses their super first. If lash goes first counter break reduces the doubled terrain stars. If Sonja goes first then prime tactics doubles the reduced terrain stars.
@t1glistenerelf
3 жыл бұрын
This is excellent to know. Good stuff.
@jawwer12
3 жыл бұрын
That's super cool, because that means whoever gets the first draw has the advantage. Neat
@DarkRedZane
3 жыл бұрын
Oh that's nice intel. If that's the case then a Sonja player can use his Super Power if Lash's Power Meter is almost full. It might discourage Lash to pop hers during her turn. It's good since you basically manipulated her power meter to overflow during your attack and she can't even retaliate immediately during hers because of terrain penalty and also Sonja's scary counter-break.
@voncully
3 жыл бұрын
Really insane, that colin threw away at least 10 units and had awful build choices and was still able to hold on for the whole time limit. Colin really is just playing with his own ruleset against all but the most broken commanders.
@SoulHero7
3 жыл бұрын
As a Lash main I cannot agree more about using air units as Lash. I went against a Grit and used BCopters to force him to build AA in the early game instead of Artillery. And that means he was building lots of ground units to counter my air units, and Lash excels at fighting ground units. If you're playing as Lash, use your air units as literal air support and force the opponent to play on your terrain.
@andhikasoehalim3170
3 жыл бұрын
I guess this is why Colin is still considered a novice in Dual Strike, Colin mains exactly like what Colin would do. lol
@BurningFyre
3 жыл бұрын
Colin: sending men to their deaths in wave assaults Olaf: ... we're going back to the basics again
@Dr_Weirdoo
3 жыл бұрын
@@BurningFyre grit: sit back, crack a cold one and watch the enemy get turned to ground Meat
@projectpitchfork860
3 жыл бұрын
@@BurningFyre Well it's not like Colin ever runs out of units.
@thundermaster4247
3 жыл бұрын
Colin is really annoying on maps with airports cause his 7000 cost unit forces you to buy an 8000 cost unit
@nonymouswisp8176
3 жыл бұрын
Whats an airport again?
@thundermaster4247
3 жыл бұрын
@@nonymouswisp8176 how did I not expect this
@DemonFox369
3 жыл бұрын
Good point. If the player uses the Bcopter well, it’s very valuable.
@thundermaster4247
3 жыл бұрын
Ive been playing advanced wars alpha which has a lot of new cos but there basicly just reworked commanders and they made the Colin equivalent fair
@truegamer_007
3 жыл бұрын
@@thundermaster4247 How do you make a Colin fair?
@rhettorical
3 жыл бұрын
Let's see a "Hachi main" give it a shot.
@azensama7508
3 жыл бұрын
lol Hachi is basically Colin on steroids
@danmiy12
3 жыл бұрын
Hachi is like the 2nd best co in the game behind aw2 sturm, the ppl would have to be really terrible at the game to lose. Colin here lost cause he didnt have enough bases to spawn lower tier units. Hachi doesnt have that problem with his super power, this would have been even more 1 sided if the other ppl picked hachi and spawned recons to fix his vision or infinity outta nowhere.
@truegamer_007
3 жыл бұрын
@@azensama7508 Hachi is actually Colin from the Future when he gets experienced but his money starts running out.
@sushantmanandhar1387
3 жыл бұрын
On awbw sturm is actually 80/120 and not 120/120 so Hachi is better
@royalghost4914
3 жыл бұрын
@@truegamer_007 that makes a lot of sense
@hikaritsumi2123
3 жыл бұрын
Flashing ammo rocket: Was I a good rocket? APC: Here, takes some ammo and continue to fight for the motherland.
@impossibleimposter1
3 жыл бұрын
I love these advanced wars online replays. I don’t play this game at all but it’s fun to watch even if I’m lost on some of the basic aspects.
@DarkRedZane
3 жыл бұрын
It's actually a fun game even with just against AI.
@Superawesomebob9
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine what happens when Colin grows up and "gets experience." Literal demigod
@TKHedgeHog
3 жыл бұрын
Gold rush Doubles Money instead of 1x5
@azensama7508
3 жыл бұрын
@@TKHedgeHog lol
@albertjacka
3 жыл бұрын
Has infinite money
@truegamer_007
3 жыл бұрын
You mean Hachi?
@Docthrax
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it exists and its is Hach i;)
@darklordforte8731
3 жыл бұрын
I blame the Advance Wars Story Campaign/AI for devaluing Recon units. Enemy AI seems to ignore FOW unless you are in a forest, and even then they tend to know exactly where to scout out, so it often feels like "What is the point in spending 4k on a unit that is going to get picked apart by tanks that shouldn't have been able to see them anyway?".
@JellyMyst
2 жыл бұрын
You're right, the Advance Wars 1 and 2 AI cheats in FoW. Only forests and reefs are hidden form them, the rest of the battlefield is just visible.
@Blizz3112
3 жыл бұрын
Me: Have mercy Mangs, he's just a boy... Mangs: "I know, that is why I play Lash ;-) " Me: "No mercy! No mercy at all!"
@PyrelordPazuzu
3 жыл бұрын
"And now he's making the biggest mistake of the match right here." Mangs, after learning that my dad is about to make me.
@WolfOfMassDeath
3 жыл бұрын
Amazed at how many mistakes a Colin player can make and still be in the game.
@Green13Gaming
3 жыл бұрын
Colin would be a rich kid gatcha player who would throw away his out of meta units His sister Sasha would invest in the stock market at a level where she knows how to make a small profit Hachi would be the guy who owns the stock market
@tyeus3673
3 жыл бұрын
"Colin is not strong because his units are expendable. Colin is strong because he gets more value more often".
@royalghost4914
3 жыл бұрын
Mangs: is it possible to defeat colin? Me who checks him profile daily: yeah, it sure is
@VynalDerp
3 жыл бұрын
lol I was browsing through his games when I first made an account a couple days ago and saw the game there as well
@fortunastreet
3 жыл бұрын
How to defeat Colin? Play a pre-deployed map without bases.
@projectpitchfork860
3 жыл бұрын
He still has funds and power of money. Could still be dangerous.
@KnownAsKenji
3 жыл бұрын
Use Kanbei for good measure.
@guedesreinaldo
3 жыл бұрын
Just play against a bad player.
@QuantemDeconstructor
3 жыл бұрын
Use Hachi and beat him at his own game
@DarkRedZane
3 жыл бұрын
@@QuantemDeconstructor "Map without bases? Let me just use my Super Power then."
@Hinokassaudifan1
3 жыл бұрын
Playing that 14 turn mission in advance wars 2 showed me the power of this rich boy. Its too cheap.
@Albortomagico
3 жыл бұрын
Me with 4 Neotanks by the end: *awwww its already over?*
@insertjokeh3r3
3 жыл бұрын
You mean the mission you can win by not doing anything?
@leoneldiaz78
3 жыл бұрын
If it was 3 or 4 weeks you could definitely win by routing Lash. I recreated the hard campaign version in the design room and it took about that long.
@no-barknoonan1335
Ай бұрын
@@leoneldiaz78I've been wanting to do that for 20 years, it always ended just as I was about to demolish the enemy.
@dagdamor1
3 жыл бұрын
It's hilarious how busted he would be if we got an 20-yr-old Colin in Advance Wars 3 with at least 100% Firepower and 100% Defense. Colin would be the next generation's Hachi for sure.
@aprinnyonbreak1290
3 жыл бұрын
Adult Colin is *just* Hachi, after Hachi finally retires. And Sami turns into Sensei, except with +50% cap rate. And Sturm already got into Vtubing.
@DS-tv2fi
3 жыл бұрын
Advance wars 5. Advance wars 3 is dual strike, and advance wars 4 is days of ruin.
@kaynanbirro7277
3 жыл бұрын
@@DS-tv2fi I count days of ruin as a completely different saga, so I think of It like a "DLC" on the Far Future of that world.
@AntSwift1
Жыл бұрын
@@kaynanbirro7277 Headcanon: Days of ruin is if Sturm won
@ShrimpRice
3 жыл бұрын
You beat colin sure, but you *do not outlast him*.
@gabrielc7861
2 жыл бұрын
You screwed it up, there has to be a space before any other character, e.g: space asterisk text asterisk space not: space asterisk text asterisk text
@ShrimpRice
2 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielc7861you could make text darler with 2 asterisks on the side
@lightningkitten
2 жыл бұрын
@@ShrimpRice that's what they're referring to
@ShrimpRice
2 жыл бұрын
@@lightningkitten ?
@lightningkitten
2 жыл бұрын
@@ShrimpRice he's saying you didn't place the asterisks correctly to bold the text
@Clbull118
3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Sturm mains are like rocking up to a CSGO major with an aimbot.
@QuantemDeconstructor
3 жыл бұрын
Hachi mains are playing with wallhacks
@wolfspider2034
3 жыл бұрын
Then there's the chad Flak mains
@QuantemDeconstructor
3 жыл бұрын
@@wolfspider2034 Flak/Jugger mains crabwalk with dualies
@royalghost4914
3 жыл бұрын
If you compare Advance wars to CSGO I will say Sturm is the guy with bhop script and gets vest and helmet for free while Hachi never ecos because all of the items are cheap for him
@deltazero7262
3 жыл бұрын
As a Sturm main I AGREE minus the aimbot more like we’d buy the famas so the new guy can enjoy the M4
@fuzziewuzzy12
3 жыл бұрын
Something more satisfying: a mech on a mountain attacking a rocket.
@DemonFox369
3 жыл бұрын
Only if it’s Lash for the firepower. Which I assume is what you meant since Mangs is using Lash
@henriquealves3086
3 жыл бұрын
I would guess destroying a Eagle(CO) bomber with an missle/anti-air
@DarkRedZane
3 жыл бұрын
a mech on a mountain attacking a rocket---with LASH
@HanakkoLove
3 жыл бұрын
My fav unit in Fire Emblem is fe7 Athos Reverse Recruitment My fav unit in advance wars is Pre-deployed Megatank. My fav unit in Heroes is [Insert whoever is the shiny new unit that just got released]. That's Colin. That's how it feels to play Colin
@lennyfacebutnotreally3198
3 жыл бұрын
Athos in reverse recruitment, my favorite Jagen!
@bienhy5120
3 жыл бұрын
Actually I prefer a pre-deployed Bomber :)
@danmiy12
3 жыл бұрын
my fav unit in aw would be a stealth bomber or black bomb, those 2 are always banned in awbw for good reason. Steath bomber can only be targeted by the airplanes and are so annoying, black bomb is too easy to get value outta.
@Xenav14
3 жыл бұрын
@@bienhy5120 Those Indirect Bombers from that AW2 hack, Andy's Adventure.
@KopperNeoman
3 жыл бұрын
@Xenav14 Those are Kalf's day-to-day, nothing to do with Colin.
@BenjaminGlatt
2 жыл бұрын
Advance Wars is played like any other strategy game: when ahead, *get more ahead.* Colin *starts out ahead,* so if you just play him the same as any other CO but with better units sooner, it should theoretically be impossible to lose.
@Davtwan
3 жыл бұрын
Colin is like Soldier in TF2. Either everyone mains him or have him in their back pocket just in case.
@AntizombiRUS
3 жыл бұрын
Yasuo in LoL. Either dominates or being dominated
@robertharris6092
3 жыл бұрын
*has never played colin outside of the campaign*
@theolanderdilag3872
3 жыл бұрын
@@AntizombiRUS oh god so that means that colin is the yasuo of AW? How poetic
@michaelcashed3777
3 жыл бұрын
Soldier is literally shoot feet, it’s not hard to have it in the back pocket
@lagg1e
3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcashed3777 Same goes for Colin. Buy units and use money power every time it's available.
@RexSpec
3 жыл бұрын
If there is a phrase that perfectly encapsulates Colin's style of optimal play, it would be this eternal maxim of warfare: _"Children_ study tactics. _Men_ study logistics." What makes Colin so strong is his ability to pad out some seriously strong logistics chains during the course of the battle all because he is able pump out an enormous amount of units. Compared to the other COs, it isn't even a question as to who can produce the most units when Colin captures locations at the same rate his opponent does, and guards those locations well. I ain't no "Colin Main," and I'm certainly no pro of AW either (I'm a noob, at best) but even a thick simpleton like myself could see that your opponent was utterly squandering Colin's propensity toward strong logistics chains by throwing away units and defaulting to a single unit produced when he had money to burn (I.E. the b. copter spam). Like, holy hell... I had believed it was _impossible_ to lose with Colin, but that belief was _thoroughly_ destroyed by this video.
@amanofnoreputation2164
3 жыл бұрын
"...that's how it feels like to go up against Colin in Advance Wars." If so, going up against Hachi is like fighting an administrator account in a Gatcha game who basically has cheats active.
@Delimon007
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@codokay6008
3 жыл бұрын
Funny seeing comments made even though nobody would've watched the full thing by now, I'm settling down for some Advance Wars tutorials from Mangs, he's honestly helped my PvP battles a lot
@HanakkoLove
3 жыл бұрын
Me who plays the video on 2x: I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you
@rhettorical
3 жыл бұрын
I was ready to comment about fighting Colin is a survival-horror game but skipped to the end and now I'm curious what the hell happened.
@Cloud_Seeker
3 жыл бұрын
"We traded a infantry for a infantry" - Wait hold on. Didn't he join-cap to get that tower? That means he lost 2 infantry and not 1.
@HanakkoLove
3 жыл бұрын
It's my sleepover and I get to choose which Little Stalin gets beaten to a pulp
@HanakkoLove
3 жыл бұрын
Next video: "I went up agaisnt a Jugger main (I lost?!)"
@UltimaDoombotMK1
3 жыл бұрын
Impossible unless he's playing himself
@aprinnyonbreak1290
3 жыл бұрын
"I had a good strategy, I was winning, but then Jugger collapsed my front line by crashing Infantry and Recon into my Md. Tanks and Battle Copters, and I never recovered.
@QuantemDeconstructor
3 жыл бұрын
Jugger has the potential to get huge value out of System Crash, similar to Lady Luck, but he doesn't average THAT much damage, a lucky Jugger can probably take rounds off some COs
@danmiy12
3 жыл бұрын
Even though juggler is bottom of the barrel he might just get lucky turns against you with his super even if he might do 0 damage. Luck based cos are kinda hard to grade cause they might just get super lucky and blow you off the map or miss you completely (do 0 damage) but it does avg to pretty terrible damage most of the time and they dont get extra movement on power use.
@amanofnoreputation2164
3 жыл бұрын
Losing to Jugger is like losing to Bender from Futurama.
@amanofnoreputation2164
3 жыл бұрын
Colin is very simple, but his advantage gives him an edge in so many ways that it adds up fast: that twenty percent extra money to play with allows him either to make better trades with you in spite of his firepower debuff, or lets him field more advanced units than you can earlier. And he can press this advantage constantly. In the early game, he can field more infantry than you can. In the middle game, he can field recons earlier than you can, tanks earlier than you can, and artillery earlier than you can. And by the end game he has all of the advantage he was able to accumulate in the prior stages of the game plus he can afford MD tanks, bombers, and battleships earlier than you do. In *theory* you can overturn Colin's advantage if you get in their early and make some really good trades, but this never pans out because as we've seen, Colin's cheaper units doesn't just make his units more efficient and numerous -- it makes his entire strategy *faster* and he only amasses more of a lead with each turn before battle is even joined. And then he has really good CO powers on top of this so that even if you play your cards right and kill a bunch of units -- he can just pop his power, throw some money on the ground, and buy them back to life again -- with a 10% defense buff. *With interest.* If anything, the squishyness of Colin's units winds up making them *stronger* because they die faster and fill his CO meter. And if that wasn't enough, he has a super power that, while not as busted as his regular power, still allows him to negate his one weakness; a lack of firepower, by filling the barrels of his guns with high explosive wads of cash. It's like he was designed to be broken, but through landslide of oversights he turned out to be ten times more broken than he was even intended to be. It's like with Kanbei: 20% more expensive units for 30% extra firepower *sounds* like a fairly even trade giving Kanbei a modest advantage, but it really isn't because of how defense is calculated *last* and gets subtracted from whatever damage total your opponent has. Even without a firepower boost, the defense buff would probably be enough to make Kanbei a B rank CO.
@gabrielbaires4577
3 жыл бұрын
1:07:50 Goodbye mvp rocket... was with us from the (freakin) start of the match. Forever in our hearts, you and your value will never be forgotten!
@MrAlmaerith
3 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering something, you insist a lot that Colin should never build units before the end of his turn, but isn't it generally a good idea to build units last with anyone anyway? I could see fringe exception like Eagle's Lightning Strike or such, but as a general rule.
@Mangs1337
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah absolutely.
@robertharris6092
3 жыл бұрын
Especialy with fog on since you can discover a new unit that you need to counter.
@zorritoMk
3 жыл бұрын
I think that yes because you can think that you are in a situation at the start of the turn and realize that you are in a completely different situation by the end which can change the gameplan or response.
@boserboser6870
3 жыл бұрын
the one exeption i can think of is a recon to get vision near your base to kill a unit that you know is around
@DemonFox369
3 жыл бұрын
Unless you build a Recon at the start of the turn (after using Gold Rush) to have vision.
@Walpurgisnackt
3 жыл бұрын
I understand the logic behind trying so hard to deny you the airport. But it's not like you're the colin and a bomber will pop out of it.
@stevengu1253
3 жыл бұрын
Colin actually had the advantage at that time. He just threw away too much fodder.
@Nekufan1000000
3 жыл бұрын
This makes me want to message like, "I'm a Sturm main, but you'll beat me anyway." Cause boi, I'm not good at this game. I get stuck in the normal missions of the campaign.
@cloud09gaming
3 жыл бұрын
Don't feel lonely there man. XD
@soulhoney1227
3 жыл бұрын
What missions
@Nekufan1000000
3 жыл бұрын
@@soulhoney1227 In just about any mission I can't build units on, and in AW2 the missions with factories are always super close. Replaying AW2 the other day I got trounced on Sea Fortress like 4 times before just looking up a guide (and still only completed it with one half HP bomber as my only damage unit), and one of the pipeline missions came down to a MAX OWNED ROCKET taking out the seam while the AI steamrolled the base of the faction who was being invaded. I can't remember if it was Yellow Comet or Green Earth that I was allied with, but I do remember being mildly miffed that I won with a rocket built by Max because I couldn't get anything else close enough to the seam. Edit: Since I'm still going through the campaign right now, I'll give the last mission as an example, Drake's Dilemma. I need to get these battleships down to the cannons to take them out, with the only real impediment being a couple of rockets down where the reefs aren't quite close enough to pass through. And then Hawke is sending Neotanks at my Kanbei on turn 4, I have utterly failed the capture game as two properties near the seaport to the north of Kanbei remained untaken the entire match (because literally Hawke had 4 neotanks in my area), and all I can do on land is spam tanks to pick at Hawke's forces. 22 days, 99pts in speed, 53 in power, something like that in technique for a B rank. This is normal mode, a 4 star difficulty map iirc, and I B ranked.
@JoelHernandez-tz3vk
3 жыл бұрын
Last time I played any AW was in 2010. And no multiplayer so I kinda expect to get destroyed by Mangs even if I play as Hachi.
@BusterBeachside
3 жыл бұрын
Today's replay review taught me: Early recon opener OP
@multitopictalk6714
3 жыл бұрын
False. Mangs and I fought Jake VS Adder and i had early recons. He crushed me, badly. early MD tanks in large maps are OP. They have so many escape routes.
@BusterBeachside
3 жыл бұрын
@@multitopictalk6714 I was halfway memeing, to be fair, I'm not really suggesting they're literally OP. But I didn't make that at all clear! It just seems like early recons are usually pretty effective in most of these games Mangs has shown off. :D Also, I haven't played any AWBW, so take anything I say with a massive pile of salt lol
@ComradeCommissar17
3 жыл бұрын
What impresses me about Mang's play throughs is he almost never deploys medium tanks and still wins.
@RadioTails
3 жыл бұрын
It's very tempting to build large units when you have the money. It's more effective to build smaller units at the start, and then larger ones later on in the game.
@leogh1378
3 жыл бұрын
These replay commentaries are my favourite thing ever, absolutely makes my day. Please keep them coming down the pipeline mangs!
@theblackx9429
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Max main. In AW1. 😂
@ShrimpRice
3 жыл бұрын
Don't fuck with us Max mains, we haven't seen the daylight in years.
@robertharris6092
3 жыл бұрын
@@ShrimpRice burried in whey powder.
@theblackx9429
3 жыл бұрын
@@ShrimpRice hey dood is funny because it's true.
@DarkRedZane
3 жыл бұрын
When I was still younger and played this game a long time ago, and playing through the campaign, and when MAX started to be introduced I was like YEP HE'S THE ONE, I'm going to play him as much as I can (as possible, only if Indirects are not necessary element) throughout the campaign. You know the feeling of being young wanting to become a sort of Strong man like having forces and literally just crush through enemies with brute force. But then, AW2 and AW:DS came and slowly I noticed I was getting bad with Max(?) so I kinda lost interest and went for other CO's. Years after, specifically after watching Mangs' CO tier list, I realized Max got nerfed bad and bad for the succeeding Advance Wars game and that was actually sad that it might have been the reason I lost the love on Max years ago.
@Komatik_
3 жыл бұрын
Pick top tier
@spardy4851
3 жыл бұрын
I love your channel mate, i am here because of the remake of the 2 advance wars for switch, I am learning a lot from you, I have never imagined that this game is sooooo deep
@robertharris6092
3 жыл бұрын
Theres 2 games after 2 as well. Should look up days of ruin. Lol
@legefy
3 жыл бұрын
There's also Wargroove which takes a lot of inspiration from Advance Wars
@BirdRaiserE
3 жыл бұрын
"Get ready for some missile play, guys" Phrasing!
@HansLemurson
3 жыл бұрын
The really telling statistic about the battle is Colin's unit-count. He may have a lot of money on the field, but his battlefield presence was slipping away. High-cost units concentrate firepower, but aren't proportionally more effective. Like you said, you can't attack what you can't see, and you have to use units for roles that are "beneath" them.
@ZorotheGallade
Жыл бұрын
That and what he had in firepowerl he lost in the ability to actually employ it. Having powerful units doesn't do you any good if you have to waste turns interrupting captures or scouting.
@rhysofsneezingdragon1758
3 жыл бұрын
"have you ever played a gacha?" Uh… uh… no. Can't say I have.
@Hinokassaudifan1
3 жыл бұрын
*Sweats profusely*
@theblackx9429
3 жыл бұрын
Neither i... Really... I-i swear ok?! 😥
@soulhoney1227
3 жыл бұрын
@@theblackx9429 what gacha...... he is refering........?
@iambread2914
3 жыл бұрын
*looks at my 6 gacha games* yeah not really
@mrriki7633
3 жыл бұрын
@@iambread2914 6 ? rookie numbers
@TKHedgeHog
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mangs, Have you ever thought of a Advance wars/Fire emblem "Meme Review"? It sounds like a lot of fun
@brandonwilliams6119
3 жыл бұрын
Yes we need this! I have an Advance Wars meme I made if you’re interested. twitter.com/bravebrandon440/status/1410604381427232774?s=21
@Pangkatt
2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this! Haven't played AW2 in 15 years but oohhh man I will play so much on the Switch when it gets released!
@sp0reuniverse203
3 жыл бұрын
These videos are so very entertaining! Funny how the remake as revived so much love for this game!
@JoseMoreno-gu2bf
3 жыл бұрын
AWBW's Colin is basically Dual Strike Colin, the most broken version of him.
@lagg1e
3 жыл бұрын
What's the difference?
@JoseMoreno-gu2bf
3 жыл бұрын
@@lagg1e He didn't changed, but the game did. In Dual Strike they are more expensive units, like Megatanks and Stealths. Besides, powers now give a +10% attack and defense( it used to be only for deffense) during the turn activated, fixing Colin's firepower during COPowers.
@Halo11x3
3 жыл бұрын
AWBW's Colin is based on the AW 2 Colin, and the gameplay meter mechanics is based on AW 2 too. The slower overall meter gain in AWBW usually weakens him a bit compared to the other broken COs, and makes it harder to spam COP sometimes.
@leoneldiaz78
3 жыл бұрын
It won't get posted even if it happened but imagine egg getting cracked by a Flak main. Flak is 90% already a gigachad anyways if you go by looks.
@Mosannugget
3 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering how many games he's lost and just refuses to post them mainly because he wants to be seen as a unbeatable eggchad regardless if it could've been a good match or not. Not saying there has been or whatnot but just makes you wonder if he will actually post such a thing. Edit- apparently he has posted a video of him losing. Didn’t realize this, obviously missed that one, my bad.
@meathir4921
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mosannugget Why do people say this when he’s already posted a loss?
@Shazam1998
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mosannugget He's posted a loss and has talked about uploading losses in his last video. What are you even talking about?
@peterhoffmann2231
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mosannugget are you the colin that lost to him? lol
@Mosannugget
3 жыл бұрын
@@peterhoffmann2231 nope I don’t play this game.
@asahitownboys
3 жыл бұрын
34:25 "Are Stealth Bombers worth it?"
@Prodigial
3 жыл бұрын
Game is over by 13 minutes into the video. The Colin fucked up his early capture game movement, so you can see the level of play. I really don't know what the skill level is on AWBW but most people seem to be really inexperienced.
@gregorylu
3 жыл бұрын
Mangs doesnt show his games against good players for whatever reason.
@celestialspark5697
3 жыл бұрын
I see this a lot on these replays and it definitely happened here, but it's not really the reason for the disparity here as the incomes and army values were roughly equal until around 30 minutes in when Colin just let all his tanks get first struck from properties. Colin even had an early income lead that let him afford an extra tank because he took the southernmost central city early instead of rushing the COM tower. (The army value lead after a few turns is actually representative of extra funds, not Colin's power as Mangs stated it was, since it reflects the actual paid cost of the army.) If Colin actually didn't get the COM tower it would have mattered a lot more.
@soggy2496
3 жыл бұрын
@@gregorylu dude he's made like 6 vids in this series, its a little early to be saying that
@GawainSSB
3 жыл бұрын
@@gregorylu Its easier to see beginner mistakes by watching beginner play.
@purebaldness
3 жыл бұрын
@@gregorylu yeah, hopefully he'll show even matches or hell even matches where he loses and we can learn from it as well as himself.
@steeltalon937
3 жыл бұрын
It's the best feeling when I get off work and see a new Advance Wars video!
@marcoasturias8520
3 жыл бұрын
Neither Labs nor Com towers count for cap limits. You can check at the globe when creating a game on the capture limit interrogation globe.
@Nastyn1nja808
3 жыл бұрын
I felt like some AW content and found your channel. Thanks. I always used Colin when this game came out lol
@rafaelsolerfollana5016
3 жыл бұрын
Collin's weaker units can't push through your direct combat units, so you should build indirects. Kanbei's units are too strong to go cost effective against him, so you should build indirects. Knowledge acquired: Always build indirects
@LK.Cynric
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know advance wars PVP was a thing but here I am watching this fully and enjoying it. Well played!
@omegavulture8379
3 жыл бұрын
I’d really like to see some of that ”hit-and-run” Eagle play you bring up once in a while. Would love to see how it really looks and works in a match.
@DukeNauticus
4 ай бұрын
I've never played Advance Wars, or even watched any Advance Wars content before coming across your channel earlier today, but even I'm shocked by the money Colin makes. You wreck him one turn, he's over 20k behind in value and then he's just... "NOPE!" and ties you in value again the very next turn. It's like Colin is just spamming a cheat code for money every chance he gets.
@merabledawnspark5827
3 жыл бұрын
Well wouldn't mind taking a shot lol. I mean I play Colin, though I have been playing the other COs, but as Colin, even on the Campaign, I preserve my units. The reason why is because of not only to be able to scout, but to also join for more money if I need to do a bit of a trade. I do see the plan behind of making powerful units, but you kind of need the support to help x.x It's why even on Days of Ruin, I have flares and rig units. Flare to help with the scouts (along with recons) while the rig, even if there aren't any airports, it's' like a safe bunker for the units to go to in FoW since that game, the units are treated as if they're in woods if they are in buildings
@ultimategamer2669
2 жыл бұрын
58:35 DAMN, that line was brutal. You're EVIL! 🤣
@ToddHoward76
3 жыл бұрын
It would be extremely painful … for you.
@fuse197
3 жыл бұрын
I recently got back into advance wars and ngl seeing your channel really encouraged me
@amiasg9305
3 жыл бұрын
As much as I hate tier 0 play, would you consider trying a high level, high tier character battle to teach us about higher tier characters?
@HansLemurson
3 жыл бұрын
One of the things I've always wondered about Colin was whether it was better to use his power to just give you an extra 50% income every few turns, or whether you should try to save it up and earn compound interest. Compound interest is extremely powerful once it gets going, but getting units onto the field also "earns interest" in the sense that a unit NOW is much more valuable than a unit Tomorrow. Saving money now means more money later, but deploying more units means you get enough forces to avoid defeats and grab some victories. Which compounding effect is more powerful?
@stefenboney7145
3 жыл бұрын
1:15:57 Too bad Colin couldn't literally buy himself more time, he did a great job holding out at the end but POG lash won
@bravadious1
10 ай бұрын
Great content Mangs! I haven't touched AW in over 10 years, but back in the day I was OBSESSED. After getting S Rank in everything I started doing VS maps using Colin vs the computer in a 1 vs 3 match. I would win by withholding purchases and stacking gold rush until I got over 100k funds and then I could deploy a top brass army and crush them
@fadeleaf845
3 жыл бұрын
Ironically, despite being overpowered due his favorable economy, he has an incredibly bad matchup against Kanbei. Due to his Firepower reduction, his Infantry does less damage against Kanbei's even if he attacks first.
@MinistryofFoam
3 жыл бұрын
I have been playing AW since the GB SP days and I have never considered myself a good player, watching the pros have confirmed this. I am learning a lot from the gameplay commentary and I am enjoying them immensely.
@Erasuma
3 жыл бұрын
loving that Mangs references AoE2 haha
@chuuster5445
3 жыл бұрын
I just want to thank you Mangs for uploading these gameplay / commentary from AWBW! They're as entertaining as they are informative, and it's always a highlight of my day to see :D
@arcturus64
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mangs, I've been wondering, does Colin's -20% cost on units counts towards repairs as well? Like repairing 2HP of an infantry costs 200 (1000/10 *2) would that mean that Colin's infantry costs 160? (800/10 *2)
@Mangs1337
3 жыл бұрын
Yes! They also charge your power meter slower when you kill them.
@gabrielc7861
2 жыл бұрын
@@Mangs1337 rlly, as if he wasn't already broken
@NN-cc8uo
6 ай бұрын
I'm a semi regular chess player, and watching this video really feels like I'm watching Gothamchess with how Mangs explain his gameplan and what his opponent is doing and whatnot. Advance wars really is just chess but with tanks, huh.
@michael_betts
3 жыл бұрын
I used Colin a ton and a kid, and he's still my favorite CO, even compared to Hachi and Sturm breaking the game in half. I do actually not spam him anymore because I understand how broken he is, but if they nerfed him somehow, but kept his playstyle I would still use him. I also only pick Colin for kanbei war room maps, and kanbei for Colin maps, as I like that matchup from both sides.
@BoltTheEmolga
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Colin’s units were 90/90 instead of 90/100, I feel like that’d be a good nerf to balance him
@michael_betts
3 жыл бұрын
@@BoltTheEmolga him being 90/110 so often is one of the best things he has considering it basically makes him equal to a "normal" co. It fits thematically, but I don't know if it over or under balances him.
@BoltTheEmolga
3 жыл бұрын
@@michael_betts Isn’t he normally 90/100?
@ohok9356
3 жыл бұрын
@@BoltTheEmolga he's referring to the fact that he constantly spams co power which constantly gives him more defense
@BoltTheEmolga
3 жыл бұрын
@@ohok9356 Ah. Fair.
@versebuchanan512
2 жыл бұрын
"If you ever run out of ammo on your rocket, congratulations, that was a good rocket." Brother, I'm a Grit main, ALL my rockets are good rockets.
@meatbagspaai6370
3 жыл бұрын
It's kinda weird that Lash is taking great care not to pointlessly sacrifice her units while Colin just carelessly throws them in the meat grinder.
@theedwardian
Жыл бұрын
Colin never learned the value of a dollar
@cl8804
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for including relevant links (map included) in the description!
@nathaninnes8945
3 жыл бұрын
I’m more interested to see if it’s possible to beat Kanbei. I used to main him but eventually I was too disgusted with myself to be able to do it anymore. Edit: I just remembered I did so one time on a really small map using Sami.
@dumblenutz5561
3 жыл бұрын
Congrats, you have honor
@sebastianlucas704
3 жыл бұрын
A skilled Hachi can do it.
@rhettorical
3 жыл бұрын
Played a match recently as Kanbei against Javier, 4 Comm Towers on the map. Solution? Rush the towers and hold them down. 14 days in, Javier conceded. Felt dirty.
@Komatik_
3 жыл бұрын
@@dumblenutz5561 I like (real AW2) Sturm, Sensei, Kanbei, Hachi, Colin, Grit. Give me the brokenness.
@Dave.A.R
2 жыл бұрын
As a Colin main, I can relate with the Cobra Car analogy. It was my main unit as well, lol.
@a.velderrain8849
3 жыл бұрын
Colin Player: *starts match" Mangs: "This was his biggest mistake of the game right here."
@fadhilyudistira8819
3 жыл бұрын
57:07 as someone who used Grit as my main CO, I can definitely relate. nothing is more satisfying than sending APCs to resupply the rockets en route to an empty property.
@JLHack7
3 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time Mangs says "Ridiculous"
@VeyVox
3 жыл бұрын
Just starting playing on AWBW, and your content was the reason I did so! Thank you for your educational videos, they are really fun to watch^^ If you're up for it, I'd love to play a game against you
@knight_lautrec_of_carim
3 жыл бұрын
Man, I already loved Colin as a kid back then when I played AW2 on the GBA and I like Blue Moon's Unit aesthetic the most too. Now I get shamed for liking an OP CO :(
@pvtblu1613
3 жыл бұрын
We share the same burden here. I like him cause he reminds me of me: Insecure (Though I am not rich)
@colinyoung3685
2 жыл бұрын
Colin for life!
@UliZombie04
2 жыл бұрын
My favorite internet video is "2 properties, 2 tanks"
@fireblast133
3 жыл бұрын
45:28 that tank wasn't in your vision prior to moving your tank
@cameron9643
3 жыл бұрын
I’m always Colin. Have over 1000 hours with him. The hardest map by far for me with Colin is Shark Straight. I can crush any other map. You explanation about him is spot on though.
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