He had a much more open ear than the usual Muslim debaters. Good for him and may God open his eyes. God bless you
@DeezNuutz4Life
4 ай бұрын
Christmas you celebrate is from pagan rituals. Easter from pagan rituals. Trinity is from pagan beliefs. How one day, Council of Nicea, could lure billions of people so easy.
@alan_e_
4 ай бұрын
@@DeezNuutz4Lifenone of these beliefs are necessary for salvation through Jesus Christ and the blood shed on the cross for all the unrighteous
@slav840
4 ай бұрын
@@DeezNuutz4Life First in the Bibel IT says that u dont need to celebrate specific days second those "Rituals" could u Show from which cults those we're And third Christmas how IT meant to be is to celebrate Jesus birth
@Sg190th
4 ай бұрын
Ironic. I've yet to see open ears from those Christian debaters I've seen from Hamza's Den channel. Don't lie.
@orpheemulemo8053
4 ай бұрын
@@Sg190th They do have open ears it's just muslim bring up the most stupid arguments and Hamza is known for cutting debates to make him lose
@deffo7433
9 ай бұрын
You know what’s great? With the love, facts, and kindness Ryan used to spread the Gospel to him, he will dwell on that conversation. I can guarantee it’s gonna bug him for awhile and God is gonna let him really think hard on it. Glory to God, and amazing work to Ryan! God bless
@Joker-mr4sv
4 ай бұрын
👉FATHER(JEHOVAH) is one and only GOD jesus is son of GOD, jesus isn't GOD 👉John 17: 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent............(said by jesus) 👉FATHER(JEHOVAH) is only true GOD, rest of all are false gods. 👉Acts 2: 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. 👉Jesus is lord and christ (Messiah) not god. John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. GOD LOVES US ❤❤❤
@Nate-bn5kk
4 ай бұрын
That's true I hope you're right, and I hope my experience is just a coincidence for me because the Arab Muslims that I've met tend to push themselves further away from the truth when presented with it, and try their hardest to forget about the contradictions in their belief that was exposed to them.
@Kyrieleyison
4 ай бұрын
Yeah I wish I can speak like Ryan does. And I am 50.
@johnzuma4688
4 ай бұрын
@@Joker-mr4sv Why do you only look at that one verse of John 17:3? So let us look at John 17:1-5 >> 17.1 After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. 4 I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
@OhImKiCkiN
4 ай бұрын
@NickIsaac-bk4krHow do you know he spoke Aramaic? Scholars have debated this for decades. Some claim he only spoke Aramaic, some say it was a crude form of Aramaic plus Hebrew, some say Greek and Hebrew, some say only Hebrew.
@thetheoreticaltheologian2458
4 ай бұрын
Both religions proclaim their God to be the greatest, yet only one of them actually demonstrated it! ✝️ Glory to God Almighty! I pray for that young man to see the truth of Christianity!
@Ramzi1944
4 ай бұрын
Isn't God and Allah the same?
@yrig6834
4 ай бұрын
“Only one demonstrated it!” Proceeds to claim Jesus is God and was humiliated, naked on a cross, de*d
@annemurphy9339
4 ай бұрын
@@Ramzi1944. The god Allah is the crescent moon god of muhammad’s Quyrash tribe. He is not the same as the true Elohim Creator God YHVH of Judeo-Christianity.
@watupppl3
4 ай бұрын
@@yrig6834yes he did all that and still came back from the dead. What miracles did muhammad perform?
@johnzuma4688
4 ай бұрын
@@Ramzi1944 Mohammed's "the god" (that is all that allah means) is NOT the GOD of the Christian and Hebrew Bible. How do we know. First of all the Christian and Hebrew GOD calls HIMSELF our Father in heaven (Isaiah 63:16 ESV, Matthew 6:9-13). Mohammed's "the god" says he is the Father of no-one. (surah 112:3-4 and Surah 19:93) Mohammed's "the god" is commanded Mohammed to bow down in worship to a shrine dedicated to the worship of 360 pagan idol gods (that is the Kaaba btw), something our GOD of the Bible would never do. ( 2 Chronicles 36:15-23). Mohammed's "the god" calls himself the best deceiver and our GOD of the Bible tells us that HE never lies. So three reasons why Mohammed's "the god" cannot be our GOD of the Bible.
@ManofGod223
9 ай бұрын
This guy is smarter and has way more knowledge than every pastor I know. Him and cliffe knechtle will do great things for the gospel ❤✝️
@totallyfackedmate
9 ай бұрын
and Mar Mari Emmanuel of course :D
@JontheBerean
4 ай бұрын
Any born again Christian can share the Gospel I had the honour of doing so yesterday with a young man ❤️✝️🙏🏻
@tomislavivankovic6971
4 ай бұрын
@@JontheBerean1/1 Amen ❤
@fadil4049
4 ай бұрын
This man is just clueless. Clearly he was not knowledgeable about the topic and this is a bad example.
@johnzuma4688
4 ай бұрын
@@fadil4049 So tell me, which Arabic version of the quran do you use and why that one? Or do you not even know that there are some 40 different versions of the Arabic quran we know of? Of course all these qurans were written by unknown authors. And how do you deal with all the mistakes, discrepancies, inconsistencies and contradictions in that quran as well as the approval of evil such as raping women who have been captures in battle (surah 33:50) which is adultery and wife beating (surah 4:34) as well as child marriage (surah 65:4) which means that Mohammed and his allah approved of raping little prepubescent girls. And we see that Mohammed led by example when he married a 6 year old child and then raped that child when it was just 9 years old. Clearly Mohammed disqualified himself as a prophet of GOD by the evil he perpetrated. And remember all of islam is only based what Mohammed maybe recited and how he lived. So tell me, why do you even believe that you will be with GOD in heaven on judgement day when you follow Mohammed? And do show the quran verses on which you base your belief. Remember our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible promises every person that if they accept Jesus as their saviour and follow what Jesus commanded until they die, they will be with GOD in heaven. As Mohammed claimed to be the final prophet, surely he promised the same for people who follow Mohammed? If not where does it leave you my friend?
@DrSoftman
4 ай бұрын
I love him for being so respectful and patient. Not like the other Muslims who insult and disrespect. May God bless this young man Alleluia
@omarabuabdullah4862
4 ай бұрын
now Muslims are the people who insult!!! I don't think Muslims call Christians terrorists when the lose an argument.
@artisa5335
9 ай бұрын
Pray for him to get saved and find the truth
@albertyoung3025
7 ай бұрын
Amen
@PiecePoster
4 ай бұрын
Amen
@nowayimconfused
4 ай бұрын
He in the truth already
@inkyfingers3447
4 ай бұрын
He didn’t know about those verses that say they should follow the Torah and Injeel. He was shook! Muslims learning their religion from Christians. Amazing!
@kiwi.kiwi.
4 ай бұрын
That verse was meant for that time. The Bible was preserved when the prophet was alive and is not preserved but corrupted today. That verse says, “Say, O Prophet…” which cannot mean anything in today’s time as the Prophet has passed away. Stop it.
@bradalanmusic808
4 ай бұрын
Well, someone's got to teach them 😂😂😂
@inkyfingers3447
4 ай бұрын
@@kiwi.kiwi. oh I see, that verse was abrogated and no longer applies for today. Do you have proof of that? So Koran is not for all time then. It’s stuck in the 7th century.
@kiwi.kiwi.
4 ай бұрын
@@inkyfingers3447 so is the Bible. For example, the story of the children of Israel being freed if I remember correctly do not apply to today, because that has passed. Both books have verses which apply to all times, and verses which are time-specific.
@damienducoint7799
4 ай бұрын
The Qur'an talks about the original injeel given to Jesus pbuh and original Torah given to Moses Not about the Bible or the Torah that Jew people have now
@pillaroffaith
9 ай бұрын
What a nice conversation .. Praise Jesus
@korvonfrancis6552
4 ай бұрын
I love how the Muslim wasn't yelling and being rude when these points were brought up. All you can do sometimes is planet the seed and let's God do the rest. Who knows, he may Stat reading the Quran with his eyes opened and realize it's evil, nonsense.
@seankenneth8622
4 ай бұрын
Yeah I respect when people have the self control to listen completely to what the other person has to say.
@SingGladness1546
4 ай бұрын
I think it’s Ryan honestly. His disposition is perfect. He isn’t trying to argue or anything like that, and his voice is pretty soothing
@korvonfrancis6552
4 ай бұрын
@@SingGladness1546 I actually tried this on a coworker who I had a biblical conversation with the other day, I even used the two fingers he does. That was the best conversation I've had, and she was open to reading the bible afterwards. It just came in the mail, can't wait to give it to her.
@SingGladness1546
4 ай бұрын
@@korvonfrancis6552That is amazing!
@mindfulhope
4 ай бұрын
The only thing thats evil nonsense is that made up mess that is the bible.
@reggiBB
4 ай бұрын
Wow. Wow. Wow. I was deeply moved and inspired by this video. Your composure, patience, _knowledge_ and most importantly, driving home of the gospel, that Jesus died for our sins and rose again. You're doing wonderful stuff. May God bless you and make your endeavours according to His will and for the Glory of His Kingdom come to fruition. May you encourage and inspire others to do the same.
@AkkuMomin-el9ip
4 ай бұрын
Spread to all the Muslim people ❤❤❤ from India 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳✝️✝️✝️
@LivingForChrist24
7 ай бұрын
I hope and pray this channel to grow and reach out to many many people. Because brother Ryan's gospel presentation is the most clear and accurate one I've heard so far. He is very calm, patient and kind when he's talking to the non believers.
@daveduncan8004
9 ай бұрын
You did a good job. I hope you can finish that guy that he was following the wrong person. The devil has twisted everything around so much that people do not know what to believe or what not to believe. Amen.
@RightUpYT
4 ай бұрын
Brother has a lot to learn and may Allah guide him. Isa was Aramaic. He and Mariam spoke Aramaic. His original Aramaic name was Isa and maybe the Hebrew translation is Yeshua and Greek Jesus but we as Muslims don't care we only look into the source information from Allah directly that make sens and not what came later. Jesus was a Muslim as every prophet before him. Muslim means a person submitted and obedient to Allah following his guidance and laws and that's what Islam means, that's why they sometimes translate Muslim to just follower of Islam. Isa never said that "I am God" and you can try to shift and interpret the words in your bible but te truth is clear that even in the bible books written by man and shifted translated, better or worse by man, even there the truth is that he never said he is God. May Allah guide you those who are seeking truth and lead you to read the Quran. After that you will understand and even Bible and Torah start to make full sens. You can write say your opinion and ideas. We as Muslim don't care we stick to the words of Allah. Every single time people's opinion shifted the humanity away from Allah and every time Allah sends a prophet to correct it. Muhammada was the last one and the Quran is protected and perfected till the end times. But Allah knows best and if I'm wrong may he correct me.
@frankespinal4289
4 ай бұрын
Muhammad did not know what would happen when he died. But Jesus knew exactly what would happen. It doesn’t take a scholar to know that Islam is not the way.
@TheBlaxxxblaxxx
4 ай бұрын
I like how he gives explanation calmy without shouting or rushing
@barrywhite36
4 ай бұрын
I like your approach with gentleness , love and wisdom Most I see online debating Muslims are way too aggressive
@haitaelpastor976
4 ай бұрын
Islam is violence, there's no other way.
@namewithheld7588
4 ай бұрын
Love to see your kind demeanor. Kindness can open a heart to the message given. God bless you
@adhd_coach_nic
2 ай бұрын
You have a gift brother and your spirit is so light. I’ve been trying so hard to talk to people, but I don’t know half as much as you or I make it about evidence alone and don’t know how to get them to take evidence seriously. Would love some videos on training people to evangelize like you.
@TheScalyArab
4 ай бұрын
Good stuff Ryan. Blessings.
@damienducoint7799
4 ай бұрын
Jesus pbuh thereby excludes himself from this divinity... which the church conferred on him and which he never claimed.
@blackcatsarecool.
4 ай бұрын
He got scared and ended the call. It’s a scary thing for them to start seeing the truth. They can be killed for leaving Islam and disowned from their family and community.
@BraveStarEric
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, it’s so sad. When people recognize that they are hearing the truth but because of their heavily indoctrinated upbringings can never receive it. All is I can say is pray for them.
@pojoksiku
4 ай бұрын
You can't debate TRUTH.
@leenqu1n
4 ай бұрын
The easiness and calmness with which he explains, talks and makes a point! I love to hear you talk and explain, God bless you!
@cristianbrici7074
4 ай бұрын
He was a king, God and a prophet
@daveduncan8004
9 ай бұрын
God is the father, his son, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, that’s who created everything he sent Jesus, his son, to save the world to save us from hell by allowing his son Jesus to be crucified on the cross In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.
@thatochakane5084
5 ай бұрын
@@kinanlaham744JESUS IS ALSO THE FIRST BORN OF CREATION. Colossians 1:15-17,19 [15]The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. [16]For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. [17]He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. [19]For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Hebrews 1:6 [6]And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.”
@JoyOfTheLORD.
4 ай бұрын
@@kinanlaham744 John the apostle expressed that Jesus is God in the Gospel of John and so does Peter in his letters. Thomas literally calls Jesus LORD and God in John 20:28. I think it’s pretty clear that Jesus is the Messiah. Isaiah 53 should bring things into perspective.
@nit2266
4 ай бұрын
@@kinanlaham744do you think Jesus did not speak to Paul?
@JoyOfTheLORD.
4 ай бұрын
@@kinanlaham744 even more, you’re taking verses out of context and reading them in isolation. I just suggest you read them in context. Calling Jesus a teacher doesn’t negate Him being God. God is our teacher too, does that negate that He is God? Jesus and the Father both honor and declare Each Other as God(Hebrew 1:8/Revelation 4&5). For a text like the Gospel of John or any of the NT manuscripts to be “faked”, it would take a mastermind story teller to even begin to put a 1% of the cross references that are link to the Torah and prophets together. I don’t think the problem is whether you believe Jesus is the Messiah or not, but rather that you’re reading the Gospels with a hyper literal lens and it’s causing you to miss revelation for the sake of denying it.
@torengen899
4 ай бұрын
Muslim do not eat pig. Based on old testament. But they eat Camel, but thats also forbidden. On thing you can give muslim is locust. When they demand to have halal. Since this one of the few thing allowed.
@damienducoint7799
4 ай бұрын
Bart D. Ehrman in his book "The Construction of Jesus: The Sources of Christian Religion" tells us on page 154 entitled: "Does the New Testament contain forgeries?" "Of the 27 Books that make up the New Testament, only eight were almost certainly written by those whose signatures they bear: the seven undisputed epistles of Paul (to the Romans, Corinthians 1 and 2, Galatians, Philippians, Thessalonians 1 and Philemon) and The Apocalypse of John (although it's not clear who this John was)". And on page 187: "This idea that the New Testament contains books written 'under false names' is common among scholars, and it is accepted in all the great institutions of high learning in the West, it dominates all the great textbooks on the New Testament, in seminaries and theological institutes, and it is what pastors learn when they prepare for their ministry".
@Ace-3.
2 ай бұрын
God bless everyone and have a wonderful day ❤🙏 All glory and praise be to the Lord
@Justforfun-kq9fl
9 ай бұрын
Thank you brother for sharing the GOOD NEWS OF jesus our saviour
@Gabriel-ve8xx
4 ай бұрын
Jesus is God Glory to the God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob the only true Living God It toke God to get us back to God Jesus is the Life the Truth and the Only Way to the Heavenly Father Love you all God bless you all
@timothykbishop
4 ай бұрын
I can hear the wisdom you have been given from the holy spirit, very nice to see and experience
@dadaebiko8332
4 ай бұрын
Jesus says, "If you find me , I will be found by you." Those who humble themselves and seek the truth will eventually find the truth.
@praveenUFO
4 ай бұрын
Good to see a humble Muslim guy...praise be to God the Father (unseen)+The Word was God Jesus who came in flesh=One God)
@Merica1776o
4 ай бұрын
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And who is the Logos incarnate who became the representative on the perfect character of God, who also has the power to pardon sins and judge? That would be Christ. Who responded to the question of the Pharisees with “Before Abraham was, I AM”. Only Christ is the physical representative that we can finally see and touch. The bridge between man and God, which is why the veil of the Holy Ark was torn in two.
@davidstevens23
3 ай бұрын
God and the father are one. In the beginning, there was God, The Holy Spirit, and The Word. All are one, but separate at the same time. Jesus is The Word in human form.
@H-hv5cn
4 ай бұрын
God bless you brother
@Vikingshop
4 ай бұрын
This man was TOO open and positive ❗ He COULDN'T be a muslim❗
@I_am_Alxui
4 ай бұрын
You clearly haven't met a Muslim irl .
@nowfaljasi5937
4 ай бұрын
The word Muslim means submitting his wills to the almighty god. Adam submits his wills to almighty god, jesus submits his wills to the almighty god Muhammad submits his will to the almighty god so they are muslim
@zaynewhitmore
Ай бұрын
In John 17:5 he saids that he was with the Father before the earth. In John 8:58 he claims to be before Abraham and uses the name I AM as a reference to Exodus 3 when God said thst his name is I AM. In John 20:28 Thomas calls him God and Jesus responds by saying that people should believe that without having to see him risen. So he clearly claims to be God
@damonshirrelsr4353
4 ай бұрын
John 10:30 , 30"I and the Father are one.” John 17:11 , 11And I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are one." The Truth and there is no other.
@mohammedhussein2052
4 ай бұрын
I'm not here to start a debate, but what everyone including those two in the video fails to realize, is the word "muslim" means to submit to the will of god, and isnt just a label to specifically islam; did jesus submit to god? he did, so then that means by definition he is muslim, prophet abraham submit his will to god, meaning he was a muslim, same with prophet moses, david, Solomon, and all the prophets until the prophet muhammed pbuh. islam has been here since the creation or prophet adam. as for the verse he brought up, it quite literally refutes his belief and I'll explain why, it says "say o people of the scripture you stand upon nothing until you establish the torah and the gospel" but then he stopped there, why? if you actually continue the verse it says "and that which is revealed to you by your lord" which in this case is the quran. so it's basically saying o jews and Christians you stand upon nothing until you read the quran. so if you actually understand the verse, it's commanding the jews and Christians to follow the quran, not just the torah and the bible (injeel). As muslims we must believe that the torah and the injeel are books and were revealed by allah, yes however they have been corrupt(Do you ˹believers still˺ expect them to be true to you, though a group of them would hear the word of Allah then knowingly corrupt it after understanding it? 2:75) so we read the quran. so yeah his "epic answer" is now debunked. as for the claims of Jesus saying he is god I would highly advise to watch dr Zakir and Ahmed deedat, they easily explain the context and prove otherwise. please do not blind yourselves with social media's viewpoint on islam, and read the quran yourselves, you'll find it completely different than the lies you are fed on a daily basis. if you choose not to thats on you and I'm not here to attack you, you have your religion and I have mine.
@damienducoint7799
4 ай бұрын
Raymond E. Brown, recognized as one of the world's leading New Testament scholars, professor emeritus of biblical studies in New York, recipient of more than 30 awards from Catholic and Protestant universities worldwide, president of several societies for biblical studies in the United States and Europe, called by two popes to serve on the Pontifical Biblical Commission, states in his book "What do we know about the New Testament?", page 43, the following: "None of the gospels mentions an author by name, and it is quite possible that none was written by the person whose name it bears, according to a tradition dating from the end of the 2nd century (which implies that the 4 gospels had no title for almost 2 centuries). He also tells us on page 57: "Almost two thousand years ago, the evangelists wrote four gospels in Greek, we don't have the original manuscripts from the pen of the evangelists, nor indeed any original of any book of the New Testament, what we have are many handwritten copies in Greek made over some one thousand four hundred years, between 150 and the invention of printing, often, but usually on points of detail, these copies differ from one another due to mistakes or changes by copyists", On page 58, he goes on to say: "The Gospel sources must be of particular concern to us, because in all likelihood the evangelists were not eyewitnesses to the life of Jesus". On page 91: "The Catholic Church has decided on canonicity on the basis of long and regular practice in the liturgy, not on the conclusions of scholars about who wrote or copied this or that". These "original texts" don't exist. What do exist are the transcriptions that appeared between the 4th and 10th centuries. And these are transcriptions of transcriptions.
@janetbromhead4115
4 ай бұрын
Love the way Ryan always keeps his cool and is so calm: he speaks the Facts with Love and Grace. PTL! Bless you Brother ✝️🙏😇
@laccess911
4 ай бұрын
He hasn’t spoken a single fact my friend. The gospels are not even mentioned in the Quran. The Quran talks about “Injeel” which is God words revealed to Jesus. Also, Quran doesn’t say we should follow your scriptures. It’s the other way around.
@Teleios116
4 ай бұрын
Holy trinity! Father, son and spirit. One God three personalities
@Dawgman111
4 ай бұрын
Uhmmmm.. there I must correct you. Jesus aint just a profet, but he definately aint God. He's Gods SON, but he's aint equal to God. All the love.
@Teleios116
4 ай бұрын
@@Dawgman111 Jesus definite is apart of the God head. 3 in one. Father. Sprit and son
@greenrabbit860
4 ай бұрын
@Dawgman111 Jesus is God made flesh. He is God but he is also fully human.
@Dawgman111
4 ай бұрын
@@Teleios116 Can I tell you what scripture you base that on? Cuz I can explain to you how that's not possible :)
@Dawgman111
4 ай бұрын
@@greenrabbit860 While Jesus was here on earth, he prayed to God, his father. Are you suggesting he prayed to himself?
@JesusisKing-js2vz
4 ай бұрын
5 Every warrior’s boot used in battle and every garment rolled in blood will be destined for burning, will be fuel for the fire. 6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7 Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the Lord Almighty will accomplish this. Jesus Christ is this child. Jesus: I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life, no man comes unto The Father but thou Me. May God Bless You!!!
@damienducoint7799
4 ай бұрын
American Christian priest, biblical scholar, theologian and exegete Raymond E. Brown [1928-1998 G] said: "Approximately three thousand manuscripts of the Greek New Testament, copied between the 2nd and 17th centuries, have been preserved (in whole or in part), to which must be added more than two thousand handwritten lectionaries containing sections (pericopes) of the New Testament arranged for liturgical reading since the 7th century. These witnesses to the NT text do not agree with each other on many points, but few of these differences are significant. No autograph or original manuscript of a New Testament book has been preserved; the differences occurred during the copying of the original. *Not all are the result of copyists' errors; some are the result of deliberate changes.* Copyists sometimes felt obliged to *improve* the Greek of the received text, to *modernize* spelling, *add* explanatory phrases, *harmonize* the Gospels, and even *omit* a point they considered doubtful. One might think that the oldest preserved copies (in whole or in part) of the Greek NT are the best guide back to the originals; but this is not necessarily so." What do we know about the New Testament? page 86, Bayard French editions, 2011.
@siyarjoya9655
3 ай бұрын
Muslim has two meanings: general meaning is anyone who submits to the will of Allah. The specific islam is that of the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. The argument that Jesus said something that is now in the Bible needs evidence that the Bible is authentic
@kennethgee2004
4 ай бұрын
You are correct about Jesus from the Bible. You can ask him to read the Bible, but he won't and you should not expect it. They will not read the Bible or they would be apostate. They are taught not to question the Quran, and they will not think critically about Jesus. They call Jesus a prophet and all the prophets prior to Muhammad according to them are Muslim as they all lead to the final prophet. It is not consistent with history, but this is what they believe. They are not allowed to question it.
@バユ-バユ
4 ай бұрын
liar. why you lie? 😌
@kennethgee2004
4 ай бұрын
@@バユ-バユ what exactly have i lied about?
@wack6086
4 ай бұрын
Yet you don't read the Quran and don't think critically about jesus ? this guy is talking to completely new muslims that basically know nothing, this guy literally didn't know what the injil is I suggest you watch or read about the counter arguments to each argument. Because all of these claims have been answered already by scholars
@kennethgee2004
4 ай бұрын
@@wack6086 Well I have not read all of the Quran no. I have however read the Quran when looking at Jesus. So do you claim that Jesus never said that he is God?
@wack6086
4 ай бұрын
@@kennethgee2004 Just read about the faiths and see what's close to the heart and mind. not just the heart because it's not always right. Would god say I'm one? or would he say I'm 3 as 1? would he kill someone for someone else's mistakes? or would he simply forgive who asks for forgiveness? which choices fit his Majesty? why is this guy talking with new muslims and not a scholar?
@encikmerong6591
4 ай бұрын
May Allah guide all to only one and final way of life, Islam.❤
@lindsaylangthasa6506
4 ай бұрын
I think you're doing great work indeed
@seanrathmakedisciples1508
3 ай бұрын
Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ will be forgiven and healed and saved for eternal life with Jesus forevermore in Paradise ❤
@JustANormalGuy5
3 ай бұрын
This guy is smart not only that he also respectfully tells that guy not just yk like other people
@Edwardthe208
4 ай бұрын
With love, wisdom and kindness, you spread the truth about the Injeel. ❤
@Solid-Lion_Official
4 ай бұрын
It can be a waste of time to discuss with muslims. It's more effective to just tell them what the bible says irregardless of what we believe and let them be on their way.
@haitaelpastor976
4 ай бұрын
The problem is they won't simply go their way. Muhammad was the Antichrist.
@jameskent836
4 ай бұрын
Unconditional love only
@samuelkurniawan1383
4 ай бұрын
Im Indonesian, a lot of moslem here was answering that question with "the bibble today wasnt the original injil that stated in quran" Even if I said, well wheres the original injil then, a lot of them dont have the answer, and some of them said it was book of barnabas, which is clearly wasnt a holy book.
@samuelkurniawan1383
4 ай бұрын
I don't know how to approach them, maybe anyone can teach me how to completely change their opinion....
@haitaelpastor976
4 ай бұрын
@@samuelkurniawan1383Muhammad was the Antichrist. Changing those opinions is a futile task. What was foretold will happen.
@pebblesintheshoe4438
4 ай бұрын
God Bless you.
@joy4840
4 ай бұрын
JESUS ❤thats it .
@samsam-nx8gq
4 ай бұрын
They don’t read or their imams don’t tell them the truth Jesus is lord in Arabic Quran chapter 9:31 اربابا من دون الله والمسيح آبن مريم. But they change the meaning when translated to other languages. So in that verse either Jesus is lord with Allah or Allah is a Mushrik by associating Jesus with him as lord. Muslims the choice is yours. اربابا= lords in plural form.
@バユ-バユ
4 ай бұрын
you really that stpd hah? 😌
@beadoll8025
5 ай бұрын
The ridiculous statement that Jesus was a Muslim...makes no sense.
@Mimy-mc1ec
4 ай бұрын
I know he become Muslim because of tiktok or other social media you can see how he behave and his knowledge of qoran
@ErrUndefinedVariable
4 ай бұрын
Read Surah Al Baqarah. In Qura'an there are so much ayah that explain about Qura'an itself, to follow it, it is most complete and so on and so on. Qura'an is original until the last day, Bible was not coz it is updated and modified.
@Rellik123
4 ай бұрын
But the muslim im talking to says that the bible has been corrupted and changed over time, and because of that she should not follow or read the gospel... How do proceed in this case?
@Darkside-tr3sx
4 ай бұрын
Ask him to prove it. Ask him who corrupted it and when did the corruption occur. In order for something to be proven false, fake, or corrupted, you need to have the originals. Did Muhammad have the original Gospel and the original Torah? Ask him these questions.
@MichaelTarrenScott
3 ай бұрын
Islam is not a religion ordained by God the Father. Jesus is the Lord. That’s it. ☝️
@Crispyツkremes
9 ай бұрын
Amen
@TheonlywayisJesus267
3 ай бұрын
Jesus was sinless, performed miracles and was raised from the dead. He claimed divinity on numerous occations. Muhammed on the other side, well just look his life… Spreading lies, married 6 year old, was a warlord, had slaves +++ An example to follow? Not by any means. Jesus is the truth, the way and the life ✝️🙏🏻
@apocalypse2519
4 ай бұрын
The Quran does say that the Bible and Torah are correct but have been corrupted over the years. For example there are many different bibles such as the original Ethiopian Bible, the KJV bible, the NKJV bible, the NLT bible and NIV bible.
@zaynewhitmore
Ай бұрын
We actually have about 5800 copies of the original in Greek + your Quran saids that God's word can't be changed
@amypope9098
4 ай бұрын
Lord and God have 2 completely different meanings. “God” says he’s HIS SON! Yeshua says he’s the Son, Disciples say he’s the SON, even the legion that was in Heaven w him b4 they fell and he lowered himself below the Angels! Don’t say ur a Christian if u ain’t following the 10, after all he says “if” ye love me KEEP MY COMMANDS. That’s who he’s coming for Rev 14:12-13. And Bethlehem was taken from Israel and they don’t learn this. Yeshua was a Jew and we are to live like HIM so we can be 1 with him as he is 1 w God. He kept all 613 laws (603 Mosaic plus 10 Moral), he is the word God gave bc only he kept ALL…. We were made in Gods image too but, we sinned. Praise the Father for his son. 🙏🌹🙏
@cursedtyrant6932
4 ай бұрын
Also about jesus being muslim. The original meaning of a muslim is "to submit ur self to 1 god". Thats what all the prophets preached every single 1 of them including isho/isa/yeshuwa/jesus , muhhamed, mosses, isaac, abarahaam, adam , noah , jacob, david. And all the prophet u know off. They all preached that god is 1 and that u must submit ur will to him. If you look at the bible closely there are parts of it where jesus litteraly preaches that god is 1 and that we shud submit to him. I will only mention 1 part as an example. Mark 12:29-34 New King James Version 29 Jesus answered him, “The [a]first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the LORD OUR GOD, the LORD IS ONE. 30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ [b]This is the first commandment. 31 And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” 32 So the scribe said to Him, “Well said, Teacher. You have spoken the truth, for there is one God, and there is no other but He. 33 And to love Him with all the heart, with all the understanding, [c]with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love one’s neighbor as oneself, is more than all the whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.” 34 Now when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, He said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” Here we see jesus roesching that god is 1 and there is no god but he. These are the words of a muslim. All the prophets were muslims meaning they all submit their will to 1 god. But the religeon of being a muslim called islam, which means " to submit to 1 god to find peace ". Came as the final messanger completed the whole theology behind being muslim and therefor there is a new condition to being a muslim since the years 600AD and thats to also "bear wittness that muhhamed is the messanger of allah". The END well done if u had the attention span to read it all. I love all Christians and wish they find peace and guidance in this life any Christian is more then invited to come and learn about islam. ❤
@zaynewhitmore
Ай бұрын
Lol no Christian believes in more then 1 God. I wish you would actually read the gospels because In John 17:5 he saids that he was with the Father before the earth. In John 8:58 he claims to be before Abraham and uses the name I AM as a reference to Exodus 3 when God said thst his name is I AM. In John 20:28 Thomas calls him God and Jesus responds by saying that people should believe that without having to see him risen. So he clearly claims to be God
@cursedtyrant6932
Ай бұрын
@@zaynewhitmore all christians worship 3 gods weather they admit it or not
@zaynewhitmore
Ай бұрын
@@cursedtyrant6932 actually, in 1 Corinthians 8:6. It saids that there is one God- The Father, through whom are all things and through whom we exist. And one Lord-Jesus, through whom are all things and through whom we exist. We worship one God. Three distinct persons. Admit or not it's true according to the Bible
@cursedtyrant6932
Ай бұрын
@zaynewhitmore exactly. Jesus is only called lord whilst the Father is called god. And the bible says there is only 1 god. So that means: The father is the 1 god you should worship Jesus is just his messanger as hes only called lord, and not given a greater title. The father is also the god that jesus prayed too. The father is the only 1 who shows godly attributes. Like knowing the hour. Its clear as day that the father is supposed to be ur 1 god. The 1 who u call " the father" we call allah
@zaynewhitmore
Ай бұрын
@@cursedtyrant6932 and what does the rest of the verse say. And one Lord- THROUGH WHOM ALL THINGS ARE AND THROUGH WHOM WE EXIST. If someone makes all things their God
@yrig6834
4 ай бұрын
If God is most powerful than how can he die?
@Fides-Nostra-Vincit
3 ай бұрын
✝️ Jesus was born to a Jewish mother, celebrated Passover, taught at the jewish temple and people called him rabbi. So no, he most certainly wasn't muslim!
@blackcatsarecool.
4 ай бұрын
In the beginning, their realisation of the truth brings about a huge sense of loss for them. They love their religion and they feel a big loss when they realise it’s not true. That’s why they can’t continue seeking the truth, it’s too painful.
@blockifahad6412
4 ай бұрын
Not really its just that he has very very few knowledge of islam.
@MangyPL
4 ай бұрын
You'll come to that same realization some day
@mizmera
4 ай бұрын
Prophets heal through God. Jesus had His own power. He felt some of it leaving him when the woman in the crowd touched Him. He was no prophet.
@abdullaharify1783
4 ай бұрын
Jesus in John 17 3 and 5 30 says that he is not god and there is only one god
@snowleopard3470
12 күн бұрын
Jesus never claimed divinity.
@nagaxplorer2022
3 ай бұрын
A gentle Muslim debater. Rarely see one 😅
@janvertonghen14
3 ай бұрын
Why the dude with the working vest 🦺 looks like Ilkay Gundogan?
@bradalanmusic808
4 ай бұрын
The muslims say the gospel is not the same as it was before but the quran actually quotes mathew 😂😂😂
@cursedtyrant6932
4 ай бұрын
I just find it funny how the youtuber only mentioned jesus greek and hebrew name but purposely didnt mention his name in the actual language he spoke in. jesus name is infact isa. He spoke in aramaic and in aramaic his name is written isho which is pronounced iso or isa as arabs call him. The jews who spoke hebrew called him yeshuwa and somehow "jesus" became a thing LOOOL. But his original name was isa or is,ho.
@zaynewhitmore
Ай бұрын
So confidently wrong, his aramaic name was yeshua which shortened version of his Hebrew name
@cursedtyrant6932
Ай бұрын
@zaynewhitmore he was named yeshu and eesho. And its not pronounced a "sh", its pronounced as "s"
@cursedtyrant6932
Ай бұрын
Another varriejt is yisho. And the Y is pronounced as a HARDDD EE. And again not pronounced " sh" but "s" instead
@mayanmathermayanmather5106
Ай бұрын
In Matthew 24:35, the Lord Jesus said, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." Jesus came to fulfill the Commandments and not to destroy Matthew 5:17: Think not that I have come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I have not come to destroy, but to fulfill. -18- For I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one dot or one tittle shall in no way pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. -19-Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. So what were the commandments about God taught by Prophets? Deuteronomy 5:4 The LORD talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire, Deuteronomy 005: 006 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. Deuteronomy 005: 007 Thou shalt have none other gods before me. Deuteronomy 005: 008 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: Deuteronomy 005: 009 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me, Trinity - God is one not three and Jesus not God Quran - Ch 112 V 1 قُلْ هُوَ اللَّهُ أَحَدٌ -Say Allah is one Gospel of Mark -10:18- And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. Gospel of Mark -12:29 & 30- (29) And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: (30) And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. Deuteronomy 6: 4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: c 6: v5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. Deuteronomy 32: 39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: (la ilaha illalah) Isaiah 44: 6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Nobody has seen God Ch 112 V 4 وَلَمْ يَكُن لَّهُ كُفُوًا أَحَدٌ0-There is none like Him Exodus 8:10 And he said, Be it according to thy word: that thou may know that there is none like unto the LORD our God. Father and son separate Gospel of John -5:37 - You have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. Gospel of Mark -16:19 -So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right side of God. Jesus and Holy Spirit Separate Gospel of Mthew -12:32 And whosoever speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Jesus will curse those who attributed divinity on him Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Matthew 007: 022: Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Matthew 007: 023 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. My God Gospel of John-20:17 -I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. Jesus called God, prayed to God, Prostrated before God Gospel of Mathew -27:46 -And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? God Cannot be Tempted but Jesus was Tempted James 1: 13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: Luke 4: 2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered. Jesus only a Prophet Gospel of Mathew -13 : 54 to 57 -54 -And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works? 55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? 56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things? 57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is honored everywhere except in his own country, and among his own people.. Gospel of Mathew -21:10 & 11-10 -And when he was come into Jerusalem, all the city was moved, saying, Who is this? 11 And the multitude said, this is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee. Gospel of Luke-24:19 - And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people: Gospel of Luke-7:16 -And there came a fear on all: and they glorified God, saying, That a great prophet is risen up among us; and, we have seen the hand of God at work today Gospel of John 9: 16 to 17 -15 -Then again the Pharisees also asked him how he had received his sight. He said unto them, He put clay upon mine eyes, and I washed, and do see. 16 Therefore said some of the Pharisees, This man is not of God, because he keepeth not the sabbath day. Others said, How can a man that is a sinner do such miracles? And there was a division among them. 17 They say unto the blind man again, What sayest thou of him, that he hath opened thine eyes? He said, He is a prophet. Acts 3:13 -The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his servant Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go. John 13: 16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him. John 4: 34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work. John 13: 14 If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet. John 013: 015 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you. John 13: 16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him. Worship only God and Seek only His help Quran -Ch 1 V 5 إِيَّاكَ نَعْبُدُ وإِيَّاكَ نَسْتَعِينُ Luke 4: 8 -Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Should not make Images of God Deuteronomy 5:7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me. -08 -Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: 005: 009 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me, Jesus helpless without authority given by God John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things so ever he does, Son does like these. God Knows everything but Jesus didn’t Mark 13: 32 But of that day and that hour no man knows, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Matthew 20:23 For I have no right to say who will sit on the thorn next to mine. Those places are reserved for the person my father selects
@zaynewhitmore
Ай бұрын
Its because Jesus had two natures, human nature and a divine nature. You even see Jesus draw upon his divine nature in John 21:22 when he shows that he actually does know when he's going to return
@PoisonedbyFatMeatinKhaybar
3 ай бұрын
The ONE GOD. YHWH. IAM WHO IAM. Exodus 3:14 Before Abraham was IAM. John 8:58 IAM The bread of Life. John 6:35 IAM The Light of the world. John 8:12 IAM The Door of the sheeps. John 10:7 IAM The Good Shepperd. John 10:11 IAM The True vine. John 15:1 IAM The Resurrection and the Life. John 11:25 IAM The Way the Truth and the Life no one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 Peshitta Holy Bible Aramaic in English translation Mark 14:62. But Yeshua said to him, “I AM THE LIVING GOD, and you shall behold The Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of Heaven.”
@sameerfaridy8014
4 ай бұрын
Why don’t you go debate someone who has actually studied this academically, not some random guy
@Afousgfous
4 ай бұрын
"Exactly, Jesus was the way to the Father, as every prophet is the way, not the destination. Is that not obvious? The way is not the destination, and the destination is not the way. God says in the Quran: 'Today I have perfected your faith for you, completed My favour upon you, and chosen Islam as your way.' So, Islam is always the way and God is the destination. And again, Islam is submission. Everything prophets submit their will to the will of God. Every book sent contains laws on how to submit to the will of God. Always the same message, one message, one God."
@febinrockzz5
4 ай бұрын
Jesus is the only way to the Father. No other prophet is btw. All other prophets guide you/ teach you on how to get to the father but the difference between other prophets and Jesus is that Jesus is THE way to the Father.
@Afousgfous
4 ай бұрын
Do you know what is meant by "the way"? Christians give incorrect interpretations to justify Jesus as if he were a god. And I believe that every child in the world, before any rational person, if you tell them that Jesus is the way to God, will understand what you mean, but unfortunately, you give it another meaning to align with your ideas. The true and logical meaning is clear beyond doubt. There is no means or path to God without the prophets; through them, you will reach God, and without them, there is no other way. Despite all the efforts of Christians, the truth remains clear, although they also say this is a mysterie, so I no longer know who is meant by following Christianity if it is unclear. The law of reality is not clear? it is a risk. Jesus literally never mentioned God's name for himself as he did for the Father, not even once. Instead, they invented it just as they literally altered their holy book, and they themselves admit this. And how can anyone believe what they say , by God, it is blind faith.
@nit2266
4 ай бұрын
@@Afousgfousbut Jesus refered to *Himself* as the Way and the Truth
@Afousgfous
4 ай бұрын
@@nit2266 God sent the truth to the people so they can distinguish the truth from falsehood. Therefore, every messenger is truth from God, because God is the source of truth. Thus, we can say that the messengers are true and the scriptures are true, and this does not mean in any way, shape, or form that they are God. God is the Absolute Truth. Saying that a brother is merciful to his brother means he might forgive and show mercy because he possesses forgiveness and mercy, for God has placed these in him. Similarly, the love between a man and his wife, or between a mother and her child, or a brother and his sister, among others-all possess these qualities which God intentionally placed, not by coincidence. Without this, people would have abandoned each other to their fates. But the source of these matters is God, the Most Merciful , the Loving, the Forgiving, the Strong ,the absolute true, among His other . supreme names...
@Dawgman111
4 ай бұрын
@@Afousgfous Fact is that Jesus DID use Gods name. Did you know God HAVE a name? Not just a title like "Father" or "God"
@button123
4 ай бұрын
Well they also believe that Christians will go to hell because we believe Jesus is God
@TheRawring2000s
4 ай бұрын
Islam is truth!
@iamthisiam
4 ай бұрын
Imagine being a Hollywood writer on a story established before you got there. You’re last to show up and you attempt to tell the others how the story goes by writing your own script which takes their main character and demote him because his claims are too grand for *YOU* to handle.
@dbz24
4 ай бұрын
Jesus never said word for word, that he was God.
@Ms7_Shorts
4 ай бұрын
Bro,s speech is even better than bishop mar mari emmanuel💀💀💀
@scottsponaas
Ай бұрын
Oh man, it said you had 666 comments so I’m just adding one more to bring you to 667. God bless!
@bensmithy4279
4 ай бұрын
Wow so even Mohammed said follow the Bible and Torah? 😅😅😅
@mohammedshahin4497
4 ай бұрын
Yeah quran says to believe in that and follow that but to take the things which give him good deeds and not to follow the religion
@zaynewhitmore
Ай бұрын
Well it actually saids it's from God and God's word can't be changed
@omarabuabdullah4862
4 ай бұрын
first argument "God can take any form including physical form" that's invalid argument bc of two reasons, first that doesn't match the discretion of the Bible, second it's an invalid statement the physical form doesn't match the definition of God, it's like saying " an object that can move anything can move an object that can't be moved" the second argument "islam came after Jesus so Jesus wasn't a Muslim" i mean come on it's a very stupid argument for a person like you, we believe that islam didn't start by Mohamed, we believe that God also have sent Jesus with the message of islam,
@keepindie
4 ай бұрын
I don't know, why you use quran reference if you dont believe that jesus is a muslim? In quran jesus is a muslim, if you dont believe that, so dont use quran as a reference thats all
@Quantumbytes9345
2 ай бұрын
One thing that you don't know is Prophet Muhammad was a messenger of God and God tell us about the truth of Jesus that he was also a massanger of God so you're talking that Islam came in 600 AD so how do we know the truth, the answer is simple God who made everyone told us
@Come_andGO
4 ай бұрын
As a Muslim respectfully that guy needs to increase his knowledge on islam, some of the things Christian guy was saying coulda been easily refuted. Like in the Quran we believe the Injil aka Gospel is also the truth BUT we dont believe that the bible today is the Gospel as it has been changed and edited over time. Kinda like a game of Chinese whispers (if you know that is) but over 2000 years
@Come_andGO
4 ай бұрын
Also you claim that Jesus is God and he is all powerful but that is a fallacy. If Jesus was God and All Powerful then there would be no need for him to die (which also doesn't make sense how can God die?) as he could just use his power to make everyone go to heaven instead of dying for it. Also Jesus doesn't know the hour and only the father does which means they aren't equal the father is stronger or more knowledgeable than Jesus who you claim to be God how can they be equal when there is an imbalance plus Jesus prays to the father yet the Father never prays to him which makes it even more confusing. Also adding the fact the bible contradicts its self many times makes it even harder to believe anything from it
@darkpluto8508
4 ай бұрын
"we dont believe that the bible today is the Gospel as it has been changed and edited over time." The codex sinaiticus says otherwise. The codex sinaiticus is the documents we have which dates back to 4th century and our modern day bibles are completely the same. This is what muhammad said. Sunan Abi Dawud 4449: They placed a cushion for the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: I believed in thee and in Him Who revealed thee. We also see in your salafs, which is the first 3 generations of muslims, that the word Torah or Tawrah is used for the books of both the Bible as a whole. Amr then he said; "It was common in the speech of our Salaf that they describe the Books of the People of the Two Scriptures as the Tawrah, as some Hadiths concur. Allah knows best.'' Allah's statement, From here, we conclude that muhammad believed in the same book that is confirmed by the 4th century codex and is the same book we have today. Did muhammad confirm a corrupted book?
@darkpluto8508
4 ай бұрын
@@Come_andGO "If Jesus was God and All Powerful then there would be no need for him to die (which also doesn't make sense how can God die?)" This question kinda showcases that allah isn't the true god. God is PERFECTLY RIGHTEOOUS, PERFECTLY JUST, and PERFECTLY MERCIFUL. Your false god may have the mercy since he apparently just forgives sin but he is not perfectly just since sin brings death and he just forgives without carrying out his word. In the Bible, GOD is PERFECTLY RIGHTEOOUS meaning no unrighteous thing can come to heaven and stand in his presence, PERFECTLY JUST because sin indeed brings death, and PERFECTLY MERCIFUL because GOD sent his only begotten son to die the death we deserved and through that sacrifice, we may have eternal life. Your god seems to be lacking. Actually, your god might be perfectly just because we as unbelievers are apparently thrown in hell for the sins of muslims. Sahih muslim 2767a Abu Musa' reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: When it will be the Day of Resurrection Allah would deliver to every Muslim a Jew or a Christian and say: That is your rescue from Hell-Fire. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sahih muslim 2767b Abu Burda reported on the authority of his father that Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) said: No Muslim would die but Allah would admit in his stead a Jew or a Christian in Hell-Fire. 'Umar b. Abd al-'Aziz took an oath: By One besides Whom there is no god but He, thrice that his father had narrated that to him from Allah's Messenger (ﷺ). --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sahih mulsim 2767d Abu Burda reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: There would come people amongst the Muslims on the Day of Resurrection with as heavy sins as a mountain, and Allah would forgive them and He would place in their stead the Jews and the Christians. (As far as I think), Abu Raub said: I do not know as to who is in doubt. Abu Burda said: I narrated it to 'Umar b. 'Abd al-'Aziz, whereupon he said: Was it your father who narrated it to you from Allah's Apostle (ﷺ)? I said: Yes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
@darkpluto8508
4 ай бұрын
@@Come_andGO "(which also doesn't make sense how can God die?)" Let's see what happened to JESUS. Galatians 1: 4 Jesus gave his life for our sins, just as God our Father planned, in order to rescue us from this evil world in which we live. What is life? Leviticus 17: 11 for the life of the body is in its blood. Man consist of body and spirit. 2 Corinthians 4: 16 That is why we never give up. Though our bodies are dying, our spirits are being renewed every day. JESUS gave his life (body) and his body was killed but JESUS says something that should make you question if could live without the body. John 2: 19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 21 But he spake of the temple of his body. JESUS claimed he would raise himself from the dead. If he could raise himself from the dead, this means he must still be alive, at least spiritually, and have a conscious. JESUS gave his body for our sins but JESUS nevered ceased to exist.
@darkpluto8508
4 ай бұрын
@@Come_andGO "Also Jesus doesn't know the hour and only the father does which means they aren't equal the father is stronger or more knowledgeable than Jesus who you claim to be God how can they be equal when there is an imbalance" JESUS did know the hour but know can mean multiple things based on context. 1 Corinthians 2: 2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. Does this mean that Paul knew nothing or does this mean something else. If you read in context, Paul is saying "I have determined not to MAKE KNOWN or REVEAL anything other than JESUS. There's a verse in which JESUS actually says something about the hour. Acts 1: 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. He said, it is not for YOU to know the times. He didn't say "I don't know." We should also take into consideration that JESUS reveals everything about the end times and what would happen leading up to the final hour. He knew everything that would happen and what that day would look like and all of the signs but you really think he doesn't know when? One other thing is in Jewish marriage tradition, the father of the bridegroom would be the only one to reveal the wedding. The bride and bridegroom knew when it would happen but it was not in their authority to reveal when it would happen. The bible literally speaks of the 2nd coming of JESUS as him coming to take his bride, the church. As the SON, he is not the one to reveal when it would happen but only the FATHER has authority to reveal when the wedding, 2 coming, would happen. CONTEXT MATTERS. "Jesus prays to the father yet the Father never prays to him which makes it even more confusing." Taking into consideration that prayer is communication, JESUS praying is something that doesn't concern us. The FATHER still had his divinity meaning he was omniscient and can hear and see all things. The SON gave up his divine privileges while on earth. Philippians 2: 5 You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had. 6 Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to. 7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges ; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form, 8 he humbled himself in obedience to God and died a criminal’s death on a cross. Verse 8 also says he humbled himself unto death meaning he allowed himself to die or became mortal. Name me a single person who isn't already humbled to death or able to die. Name me a single person who isn't born with the ability to die.
@MariemuthooCoopasamy-sn8se
4 ай бұрын
Thanks brother for your time to answer this brother,stay blessed.
@bluebyyou7504
5 ай бұрын
To not know about Jesus and rejecting Jesus are two different things.
@Packhorse-bh8qn
4 ай бұрын
The end result is the same. "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. " (Rom 3:23) "For His invisible attributes, that is, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen since the creation of the world, being understood through what He has made. *_As a result, people are without excuse_* . " (Rom 1:20,)
@pehpuhpig
4 ай бұрын
To add onto what @@Packhorse-bh8qn has said; I would present this analogy: If you are a foreigner on a vacation to another country and you unknowingly break the law, that doesn’t make you less guilty of that law. If I visit Cypress (random country I picked) and steal from someone my misunderstanding of the law doesn’t make it legal. I should still receive punishment, the same goes for our sin. The wages of sin is death. Whether I know the law or not I have definitely failed to keep it, therefore, if the wages of sin is death and I am a sinner I definitely deserve death.
@Packhorse-bh8qn
4 ай бұрын
@@pehpuhpig Indeed. There is a 40 year old father of 3 who is currently facing 20 years in prison in a foreign country today because he unknowingly broke a local law.
@pehpuhpig
4 ай бұрын
@@Packhorse-bh8qn What did he do? Just curious hadn’t seen the story on any media yet.
@Packhorse-bh8qn
4 ай бұрын
@@pehpuhpig He had live ammunition in his luggage. :( He flew into Turks & Ciacos on vacation, they found it in customs, and he's still there last I heard. This happened in the last week or two. There are many such stories, though.
@Jo-lv8ip
4 ай бұрын
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@SpicyTurk
4 ай бұрын
this guy is debating a muslim who has barely any knowledge of christianity or islam lol. the speaker asked why he believed Jesus was a muslim and was smiling at it because he doesnt know what the word muslim means - it means the one who submits his will to God, which is EXACTLY who Jesus was. both sides of this debate do not have the knowledge to be debate about the othet religion
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