Click on the Related Video to watch the full 26-minute conversation that Kristan and Isabel had with these 2 pro-choicers.
@dondutch4107
10 ай бұрын
you should familiarize yourself with the aspirations of an extinctionist and their point of view wont be so perplexing..
@Altered76
10 ай бұрын
No way in heck I could watch 26 more minutes of these two children. But thanks anyway.
@MohJam
10 ай бұрын
@@Altered76 My thought exactly...
@MohJam
10 ай бұрын
@@dondutch4107 Yes it is Perplexing... it's pure self-loathing. They didn't get to this conclusion on their own, some zealot spewed this self-hatred into their naive ears and now they regurgitate it like mindless drones...
@gcfuel415
10 ай бұрын
Add the link please
@SpiritAnimalVSOP
10 ай бұрын
We can't expect those who hate themselves to love human life.
@blueravenonix8620
10 ай бұрын
Big fact!
@m.a_p.s
10 ай бұрын
WOOOWWWW
@erinellis9213
10 ай бұрын
Best explanation!!!
@jmrm01
10 ай бұрын
There's nothing wrong in thinking life doesn't begin at conception. The Bible literally says it begins at first breath in Genesis Chapter 2 Verse 7. Even the Catholic Church taught up until 1869 that a developing fetus did not have a human soul until "the quickening" late in the pregnancy.
@brettdaprile6595
10 ай бұрын
Best comment yet . Absolutely 💯 fact !!!
@troythomason8032
9 ай бұрын
"It's easier to fool a person than it is to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain
@williamrosa4322
9 ай бұрын
perfect quote for that, thanks.
@TheWalkThrewer
9 ай бұрын
@@williamrosa4322 asmongold says this too
@TheWalkThrewer
9 ай бұрын
asmongold says this too
@flvbbernvggets
9 ай бұрын
Every 3rd comment on every KZitem short that I've watched today is a quote from Twain...
@troythomason8032
9 ай бұрын
@flvbbernvggets, I've been noticing that too. Maybe there is something to it?
@simpIyes
10 ай бұрын
I really like how they both handled this. No one was screaming and cutting each other off! So refreshing
@P3T3RXIII
10 ай бұрын
That is because the discussion was broken down as if the speaker was talking to a child.
@ManuelMartinez-rv6tz
10 ай бұрын
Dude, this was the dumbest argument ever. None would argue that a single blade of glass deserves respect over a desire of a human. And it's so idiotic that the pro life made that argument, and that the pro choice enabled her to make such an stupid point
@snekwashere
10 ай бұрын
The second they mentioned a blade of grass being compared to a puppy I was lost ngl 😅
@Flupmeister1
9 ай бұрын
I dont know man.. That left one seems a bit emotionally unstable.
@amazinggrace9381
9 ай бұрын
@@P3T3RXIIIspot on 😆
@yahssermashyardic2447
Ай бұрын
Wow !!! I wish I could hug her!!! Wisdom is truly known by her children!
@jsutton4703
10 ай бұрын
"Fish is comparable to a blade of grass" My boy nemo took offense to that and is on the way.
@df2396
10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂👍🏽👌🏽
@1milebehind
10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Kyle01_11
10 ай бұрын
HAH
@TheChvrches
10 ай бұрын
Did you just assume it's gender?
@TimRyanBAND
10 ай бұрын
so you value life by a mental or phycological ability? Life is life.
@KingJH0510
10 ай бұрын
'Is a puppy a life worthy of respect and value' 'No.' 'Well shit'
@ItsTheTruuth
10 ай бұрын
💀💀
@cellophane6338
10 ай бұрын
Everything is food is your hungry enough
@kirayoshikage1491
10 ай бұрын
I had this same sort of response happen at my school, there was a pro-life protester asking my opinion and when I said I don’t really care about the life of a fetus since it has no brain capacity they responded by asking “so would you not care about the life of someone mentally disabled?” And I responded “if their mental capacity is that of a fetus then I really don’t care if they die, no”
@AverageTubby
10 ай бұрын
John Wick has entered the chat
@WilliamParkerer
10 ай бұрын
(Sigma pout)
@brennonlewis
10 ай бұрын
I'm glad they could have a discussion without screaming at each other, that's rare these days
@sangelis311
10 ай бұрын
You should watch the entire interaction. They were not as respectful as you think.
@kawaiisenshi2401
10 ай бұрын
Shoot I respect the pro choicers just for that. I believe it's possible to disagree and still have respect for one another at the end if the day Although it may be a lost art
@helkas3316
10 ай бұрын
@@kawaiisenshi2401I do not and couldn't disagree with you more.
@milescunha5286
10 ай бұрын
Well enough of them vote so that’s all that really matter.
@AlexM-nl6nx
10 ай бұрын
If voting mattered they wouldn’t let you do it
@catscatchup1592
Ай бұрын
The woman carrying the single cell organism also deserves respect, value and protection
@williamrose7184
Ай бұрын
Not all of them
@andreduplessis7080
Ай бұрын
You think a fetus is a single cell organism?
@gingerbeard9481
Ай бұрын
Of course! What respect, value and or protection are they not receiving?
@catscatchup1592
Ай бұрын
I'm not surprised it's all men commenting lol . Go find all of these child predators that are praying on children. If you want to save the children, save the ones already here on earth. Go do something better with your time and leave women's issues to women.
@charleslavoie7622
Ай бұрын
@@gingerbeard9481 Hmmm let's see.. The risks of complication when giving birth, risks during pregnancy, the life-changing commitment to raising a child that she might not be ready or want for, the financial burden of raising a child... And if the mother should fail providing for her child, is that kid's life really that great after all? Or, if the act of giving birth is to make both the mother and the child's life miserable, isn't it better that she never brings that child into the world in the first place?
@jonatanbucup4403
10 ай бұрын
Respect to both side for not yelling or insulting each other
@tinan6798
10 ай бұрын
Facts, so true.
@iceland50
10 ай бұрын
thats always nice to see
@Andre-to1og
9 ай бұрын
It's usually the furry/bee/fairy delusional people who are yelling
@Erowiiid
9 ай бұрын
@Andre-to1og yeah just look at the woman in the red flannel you can just tell she wants to rip and shred everything she sees
@marc-etiennemercier6584
5 ай бұрын
Pretty sure it did lol... this is a short.
@romentsaturyan5537
9 ай бұрын
Its amazing how the two talk without interrupting each other and still manage to not have a conversation.
@Hypergangnam
9 ай бұрын
I struggled to get anything from this awell. The "students for life" girl`s strawman at the end didnt help anyone but herself i recon.
@rdc515
9 ай бұрын
Yes. It happens when humans think they are talking to defend their beliefs. An actual conversation starts when both ask each other things like "so what got you to hold this belief so dear?" and "how can i help you see that the alternative viewpoint could also be valid?" .. may be. I'll adapt a saying to this context: "When I believe you care about me, i stop caring about your beliefs."
@jameswalker6864
9 ай бұрын
@rdc515 Your comment makes no sense. Nothing will change the opinion of another person after a conversation, ni matter how nice, polite and convincing you may sound. People don't want to pursue truth in a debate, they just wanna win the diacussion.
@Hypergangnam
9 ай бұрын
@@jameswalker6864 ?
@rdc515
9 ай бұрын
@@jameswalker6864 I must have chosen the wrong words then because I agree with what you just said, except i mean conversation as something different from polemics.
@yancywillson1506
Ай бұрын
I have not heard this any better. She really made a point perfectly.
@gregfischer4502
25 күн бұрын
No she didn't lol
@K581O_o
25 күн бұрын
No it is a dumb founded circulaire reasoning to gain attention and to further her religious and political agenda, she doesn’t care about homeless and people or addicts just pre human form of life. She eats life every day, her cancer is healed by stemcels and the ONLY thing she cares about is being right, she doesn’t care for Palestinians or people in darfur or the Congo, neither for people in North Korea just pre human life forms…she is a empty shell created by a backwards society called USA where the life of an unborn is more valuable then a living person.
@MiaSalazar-tk2bk
25 күн бұрын
she literally didn’t. a blade of grass, a fish in the ocean, life on mars, and a fetus in a dying world are not held in the same context
@ashleychanelle9668
24 күн бұрын
@MiaSalazar-tk2bk no of course not. Her point was that people think that these lesser forms of life, are more important than a developing human being.
@juangringo3906
22 күн бұрын
Whoosh. @@MiaSalazar-tk2bk
@margot947
27 күн бұрын
Every human being should be respected regardless of race, age , Gender.
@senorsenior9546
9 күн бұрын
"Now, if we could just convince people that some of them aren't human... "
@LivingBreathing
10 ай бұрын
Im just glad those two fine young men took time off their logging shift to come down and have an intellectual debate.
@add_nyc
10 ай бұрын
💀💀💀
@crisspyg.9742
10 ай бұрын
🤣 I am laughing and cringing at the same time, you’re sarcasm, hilarious. You falling into their gender trap, cringe. I almost just left a “You spelled woman wrong” comment 😂
@beachlady5284
10 ай бұрын
You forgot the "WO" in the men
@michaelmcconnell5619
10 ай бұрын
THATS HILARIOUS MAN!
@jasonlowery11
10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@dylanandlilly3072
10 ай бұрын
Can’t lie an organism on mars would be pretty damn important
@thechuvakdb6972
10 ай бұрын
That's not point though
@inquisitionagent9052
10 ай бұрын
Extremely so. It would greatly influence our understanding of science and biology
@Tyrael66
10 ай бұрын
Space is fake
@redacted8720
10 ай бұрын
@@thechuvakdb6972It was a terrible point because we haven't physically been to Mars yet, so literally anything that came from another planet will be pretty important. Her "point" is trashy because I'm sure the general consensus would be "Yes, a single celled organism that came from another planet would be pretty important"
@dylanandlilly3072
10 ай бұрын
@@redacted8720 it’s not that deep
@jamessprake9910
10 ай бұрын
A mother/pregnant woman, is a life worthy of respect and value.
@loka-chan6695
9 ай бұрын
Like these pro life are so stuck in themselves and don’t care about anyone but themselves. You (as in them) can choose to keep the fetus don’t force that on anyone else
@Mxtxloverr
9 ай бұрын
@@loka-chan6695 That's why I think "Pro-Birther" is a more accurate term tbh
@shoalify
9 ай бұрын
Why? Just because she's raising some sperm makes her and instant saint? Nope, there's plenty of horrific mothers. Your opinion is as useful as fly screens on a submarine.
@cubanthunder69
9 ай бұрын
Right, so is the human being that she was partly responsible for creating. The two aren’t mutually exclusive, but i cant expect intelligence from someone like you. Maybe the single cell on Mars might actually be worth more than some people, you and the obese lumberjack are great examples of that!
@thebritishteaman2380
9 ай бұрын
Wrong answer
@Raindropsundropgumdrop
29 күн бұрын
Correct: the human carrying the clump of cells deserves our undying respect
@ADMusic1999
28 күн бұрын
Well all humans are clumps of cells if you think about it. You’re just a bigger clump of cells than a fetus. And I think it’s the best type of mutual respect to value your right to do anything with your OWN body, while also valuing the unborn child’s life by not letting you kill it.
@Raindropsundropgumdrop
28 күн бұрын
@ADMusic1999 if it can't survive outside the body it's not an independent life it's a clump of cells sorry
@ADMusic1999
28 күн бұрын
@@Raindropsundropgumdrop Says who? That’s like saying astronauts in spacesuits aren’t living beings because they can’t survive outside their suits. Or someone on life support isn’t living because they can’t survive without a machine. There’s a lot of situations where we can’t survive without help from others. That’s what hospitals are for. Doesn’t make us less human or unworthy of life. Don’t you guys believe in welfare? Leeching off the government - I guess they are clumps of cells too by your logic
@ADMusic1999
27 күн бұрын
@@Raindropsundropgumdrop Is survival outside a body the definition of life? Who says? Leave a newborn outside in the elements and it’ll day. Leave a kid alone for too long with no guidance and they’ll most likely get hurt or die. Honestly, if you leave the average modern adult out in the woods by themselves, they will most likely die. None of us are truly independent and the conveniences of modern society make us less and less independent every day. Heck, you rely on doctors and nurses to abort your child for doing nothing but simply relying on you.
@lrbolotin1227
25 күн бұрын
Nobody said otherwise. Giving respect and value to one life doesn’t take away respect and value from another.
@FelicianoKevin
11 ай бұрын
Isabel's argument here is worth respect and value! 🙌
@bulletanarchy6447
11 ай бұрын
It's drivel
@GlobalBricks1
11 ай бұрын
🙏👍❤️
@wesleypepple7525
11 ай бұрын
@@TheHuxleyAgnosticsure it is troll
@timesfool2
11 ай бұрын
Too true...beautiful logic.
@bulletanarchy6447
11 ай бұрын
@@GlobalBricks1 lol
@deezyboi96
10 ай бұрын
The “protection” ends as soon as the baby enters the foster care system
@uninspirational14
10 ай бұрын
Did you know that Grass and stuff like that actually screams it’s just the pitch is so different than what we can hear we can’t hear it! 😮
@M_hi1337
10 ай бұрын
this is the same as saying abortion should be legal bcz rape. reality is poor women don't have access to abortion in the first place. just rich chicks trying to justify murder.
@ozanozenir2503
10 ай бұрын
@@uninspirational14how is that even related to any of this.
@krodax3639
10 ай бұрын
@@uninspirational14youre very smart
@uninspirational14
10 ай бұрын
@@ozanozenir2503lol don’t even know just saying that They Say that “Grass does Feel Pain” But it actually does so what the heck are they gonna eat anything that is alive (Like Grass Plants or somethin” Feels pain so what are you going to eat exactly Meat and Veg. Not just Veg it’s not good for you to do that.
@twallt
7 ай бұрын
She killed her argument when she said that a blade of grass could be comparable to a "FERTILIZED EGG. A human embryo IS a fertilized egg
@lucasbalestrini5134
7 ай бұрын
😂
@Kartine1
7 ай бұрын
A fertilised egg is a single step above sperm and eggs, if you go by the metric of "potential" to grow then you're also killing potential people everytime you masturbate without donating your sperm which is pretty dumb
@derrickstewart1552
7 ай бұрын
I hate to be that guy and split hairs but technically a fertilized egg is a zygote and an embryo is when the organs start to form
@geeliei
7 ай бұрын
@@derrickstewart1552An embryo is the byproduct of a fertilized egg. Is what he should of said, if you wanted to be picky 😄😏
@Prsonfi23
7 ай бұрын
I don't think that guy will ever has his eggs fertilized 😂😅
@jenniferg.3857
Ай бұрын
A human being (as well as animals and organisms) is worthy of moral value! Just as if a woman decides to make a a choice of what to do with her pregnancy! HER CHOICE should Be RESPECTED
@ADMusic1999
28 күн бұрын
Everything you said was true. So are we talking about a woman’s choice to get a tattoo, plastic surgery, drink or smoke? No, I believe you’re referring to a woman’s supposed right to murder a child who just happens to be in her body. Alright, let me paint a picture. Suppose you’re a homeowner and you say “my house is my choice.” So you say “I can do anything I want in my house: arrange furniture, paint the walls, change the locks, invite people inside to murder them, etc.” Ok, it is your house but one thing clearly shouldn’t make the list of things you can do just because it takes place in your house. You can’t kill people just because you own a house or have a body. People aren’t your property
@AndreaonKCisland
27 күн бұрын
It's so confusing to me that someone can define morality in the first sentence followed by killing a life in the next. If it's morally sound to do so, why the need to sugar coat killing your baby with calling it "woman's choice" Also, if any mom or father has gone through this, I believe u can ask for forgiveness & be forgiven as well as forgive yourself.
@buttercakies
24 күн бұрын
@@AndreaonKCislandThe term of killing a living cell is intense, I know. But have y'all even considered the human bearing the cell? That cell can't feel pain, the woman can. Let women have a choice, pregnancy is hard enough... I don't get why people aren't okay with them having a choice.
@claudiapmuller5227
23 күн бұрын
@@buttercakiesGod has only used your mother's womb to bring you to life. Because, that is how God plans the system of HUMAN AND ANIMALS REPRODUCTION. But you were not a part of your mother's body when you were in her womb. The only thing that was connected to you, with your mother, was the OMBILICAL CODE. IF it happened that your mother had passed away while you were in her womb, you were able to survive at 12 to 20 months old out of her womb. If you were a part of her body you would automatically die with her like the other organs that compose her body. But, you survived Because, You are absolutely another separate person, you are not a part of her body. Therefore she doesn't have the Legal Right to kill her unborn baby, like any other kids of her.😂 She can commit her SIN in secret if she wants to, like some of them used to do before. But, she doesn't have to ask for the Law of the Land and the public to join her, to give her permission to assassinate a PRECIOUS INNOCENT UNBORN BABY! 🐥 🍼 EVEN IN THE PAGAN COUNTRIES THOSE KINDS OF BARBARIC CRIME DON'T ALLOW TO EVEN DISCUSS IN PUBLIC IN THEIR SOCIETY!!!😂
@moraima2024
20 күн бұрын
@@buttercakiesthey had a choice not to become pregnant in the first place. Now it’s a consequence.
@blakegray9240
6 ай бұрын
“Yes, because it is SEPARATE from a human being” Good to know that this is the criteria for deserving respect and value.
@mantroll2891
5 ай бұрын
It's funny because humans are the only creatures that truly understand our respect and value
@ThisisN.J.
5 ай бұрын
@@mantroll2891bullshit
@ThisisN.J.
5 ай бұрын
I think she refers to a fetus p.e. is dependend on the woman whereas an already born puppy is "separate"
@sabb4989
5 ай бұрын
Yep. She has to be the very ultimate stupid person to say that while been human😅
@alishanamakula
5 ай бұрын
@@mantroll2891yeahhh
@imesae3436
10 ай бұрын
She is so calm while the other person was so heated while saying “Yes” Perfect example how people think with their emotions these days
@jomc20
10 ай бұрын
This is an emotive subject yet the speaker showed no emotion and the audience member was emphatic but not emotional.
@beastmaster6946
10 ай бұрын
They're emotionally unstable
@daltonbuchholz5061
10 ай бұрын
@@jomc20wrong
@michelleponzio
10 ай бұрын
You're assuming they think to begin with
@aaronblygh4719
10 ай бұрын
I don't think they where really being emotional at all.
@AngelRivas-vh7fz
10 ай бұрын
"Yes, because it is seperate from a human being".... that first answer just showed me everything i already knew
@TheCoz27
10 ай бұрын
they meant those are separate from a human being in that they are not effecting another human being’s body
@shellytanner
10 ай бұрын
Agreed, a puppy is separate from a human being. It was never part of a human being. Future rocket scientist.
@sanaira190
10 ай бұрын
I am curious. Correct me if m wrong here. How on earth can this video be labeled 'Pagan twins'???? If they're not Christian, they're following false gods??? How can this even be allowed??? Forget about abortion, can no one see this religious intolerance here??? Are conservatives really so bold to label other beliefs as Pagan? Am I misunderstanding something here? Correct me if I'm wrong. I genuinely can't believe this.
@I.Kick.Her.Ass.Out.Like.
10 ай бұрын
@@shellytanner hahaha they a dumb as they come🤣
@theonlyairconditioner
10 ай бұрын
@@shellytanner I hear she was going for the Nobel prize 😂 jk
@nicknamethieves
Ай бұрын
to be having a simple debate like this in the age of boundless information, is incredible. that people don't understand that a child int he womb is still a human being.
@johnnyfreiner2195
29 күн бұрын
Does forcing someone to have a child they don't want justify taking away their choice? An unwanted child may end up in foster care or with a family that doesn't truly want them. Actions have consequences.
@johnnyfreiner2195
29 күн бұрын
Simple debate? A scholar debating some degenerates? There’s no quality in this. Let’s have a conversation with drs, and experts in the field of analysis. Showing case studies of why we need abortions
@gloryiso
27 күн бұрын
But why don't you give the child the opportunity to decide if he is ok or not???
@nicknamethieves
22 күн бұрын
@@johnnyfreiner2195 then there's a simple solution: stop having sex until you are ready for the responsibility. That's truly 98%+ of abortions. Girls being unresponsible and it's 💯 their choice to do so. Otherwise it's rape which is like .05% of abortion reasons. Might actually be smaller. People use it as a Ctrl+alt+del option like it's cancelling a pizza order. I'm telling you, I've seen how a child tries to defend itself, and hide in the womb as they kill it. It's a fucking horror... We're losing our humanity.
@crissy297
10 ай бұрын
I like the fact that she acknowledges the importance of the conversation not only for her sake but that of the person she is talking too. It was a good way to prevent them from getting over excited and causing unnecessary stress.
@yes1667
10 ай бұрын
I believe she was being sarcastic, but i could be wrong
@dylanbowman3685
10 ай бұрын
she was being sarcastic saying the conversation is STUPID yet she has to have it
@OtherBrotherDaryl
10 ай бұрын
A fetus is not a human being until it is outside the womb.
@top10ist65
10 ай бұрын
@@OtherBrotherDaryl dude you were a fetus at one point it was still you quit playing 💀
@jinotv6990
10 ай бұрын
@@OtherBrotherDaryldumb!
@Erjoe79
10 ай бұрын
The fact that this still needs to be explained in so much detail is beyond belief.
@chrism1598
10 ай бұрын
That's what happens when you let the patients run the insane asylum
@joshuatsai9668
10 ай бұрын
It didn’t use to need to be explained but now days people have too much time to think and they start to question stuff that doesn’t need to be questioned
@awilliams5007
10 ай бұрын
they know the truth. they just choose to deny and agitate
@Catalyst-r
10 ай бұрын
@@joshuatsai9668why this is majorly happening in USA?
@DC-nw3uc
10 ай бұрын
It doesn't. They know the truth. But they grasp at straws and lies and so you have to trap them in their own lies in front of them for them to actually look at them.
@bretttanner5420
10 ай бұрын
Its great to see a clip where no one is screaming over the speaker. This is how a conversation should go
@tommybrice4639
10 ай бұрын
When I see this clips I thinks of the horrible threats on her and family, massive protesters, some wanting her dead, boxes of hate mail, and then the stalkers. And here she is
@bohbro
10 ай бұрын
No. A conversation should allow all parties to put forward their point of view, not just one party control it. Maybe the counterbalance to this (and there indeed is one) was simply edited out.
@ripit.3457
10 ай бұрын
@@bohbroit usually is, makes the speaker appear “smarter”.
@clerpington_the_fifth
10 ай бұрын
you can actually understand what is being said, very respectful. How a conversation or debate should be.
@OlaDimeji-m9f
Ай бұрын
A round of applause to this lady for this simply view of life of a human foetus.
@Ghope-f7b
Ай бұрын
Shouldn't even be brought up unless, we'll, guess you'll have to watch George Carlin's take on it but you won't
@telugoe
10 ай бұрын
I literally just learned about Isabel’s existence and I can’t get enough of her. This argument was beyond smart. I think she just changed my mind about abortion, seriously.
@bigbluematters6275
10 ай бұрын
what’s her last name? i’ve never seen her before. i like what she says and would like to see what else she talks about.
@roundhouserenovations3072
10 ай бұрын
At least there is one. Now we work on two.
@xiongray
10 ай бұрын
@@bigbluematters6275Brown. Isabel Brown.
@msullivan85
10 ай бұрын
While I think you're on the right side of it. Nobody should be able to just change your mind about anything so fast or easily.
@robertbabic80
10 ай бұрын
What is the reason that what she is saying was not clear for you from the start?
@cameronhardy3162
9 ай бұрын
At least they spoke respectfully and did not cut off each other's speaking.
@RespectfulLivesMatter
10 ай бұрын
“The only lives that truly matter are those who respect the lives of others”.
@joshfuqua1147
10 ай бұрын
So fetuses don't truly matter?
@pinkstriptie
10 ай бұрын
I love how that one fool had their comment deleted
@jumperstartful
10 ай бұрын
"For ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." Jesus died for ALL because ALL need him and his sacrifice!"
@meganw9380
10 ай бұрын
@Reformed_ZoomerAmen. Repent and believe the gospel. Jesus said “I am the way, the truth, and the life”. ❤
@thesuperfluousone2537
10 ай бұрын
"Love your enemies." Also, I'm not sure a baby in the womb can respect you.
@rolandainebyona4392
28 күн бұрын
If wisdom was a person... Good thing I have met one. And wisdom never disappoints. She is to be adored.
@truthseeker5496
10 ай бұрын
“A puppy deserves respect because it is separate from a human being.”🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ Our country is done.
@wewoor
10 ай бұрын
as in, the puppy isn't dependent on a human for life, unlike an embryo dipshit.
@KOTKlol
10 ай бұрын
By that logic everything not human is worth more. They sound deprived of happiness in multiple levels
@degarri7995
10 ай бұрын
A puppy isn’t a fetus and a baby isn’t a fetus. These don’t connect at all and you can’t see it🤦🏻.
@blondegiraffe2023
10 ай бұрын
@degarri7995 A fetus is an unborn child after the stage of an embryo, up until birth. What do people give birth to? A baby. Where it is developing, inside or outside the womb, doesn't change what it is or it's value. A 36 week old fetus inside the womb or if it has been prematurely born, is the same. A baby.
@swavey4435
10 ай бұрын
@@degarri7995a child isn’t a baby either… just because the fetus isn’t called “baby” doesn’t mean you get to kill it for fun.
@cmac7547
10 ай бұрын
I find it weird how much we love talking about human life but no one wants to talk about that same life after it comes out of the womb
@BobbyLewis
10 ай бұрын
That's a big issue for sure, but not as big as millions being slaughtered for convenience
@metalrooves3651
10 ай бұрын
What are you saying?That's all that they talk about!DO YOU know anything bout welfare?
@turtlewearingahat9074
10 ай бұрын
@@metalrooves3651I think they’re referring to the fact that people will fight tooth and nail for abortions to be removed and not allow people to get them. But after that if a parent needs help for their kid they kinda say fuck ‘em and try to pass every bill that negatively impacts struggling families. It’s just more of the irony that they care about the life of the baby before they’re even born but once they’re born it’s kind of a free for all and they seemingly don’t care what happens to them.
@nick_995
10 ай бұрын
@@BobbyLewisNot only have abortions been on a consistent declined since 1997, but according to the CDC, that was also the last year there's been over a million in one year. Meanwhile, deaths by starvation have nearly doubled from 2018 to 2022. 27.6 MILLION Americans RIGHT NOW do not have access to health insurance. Which is MORE than the total amount of abortions from 1980 THROUGH 2020. There are more than DOUBLE the number of houses simply owned by cities that are completely vacant than there are homeless people. Over 2 trillion dollars is spent yearly to fight for countries all over Europe, but the government refuses to spend even 10% as much to help people here in America. They need to stop pretending that they're actually about protecting life when they're willing to spend over 160 billion in this year alone just in money sent to other countries just for the sake of ending lives, and over 2 trillion yearly on our military.
@metalrooves3651
10 ай бұрын
i know what they are saying but its a smokescreen to rationalize cutting a baby,legally clear up to birth ,without anethesia .,dimembering it,to make sure its dead before its out!!! And its not true!! the feds alone have huge programs to help all the living!!!Including every way to keep a murder alive for 30 years before their execution!Including every pre kindergarten program,free food to the tune of 60 bux a week per child(food stamps)What you are saying is not true!.....when new york passed the bill to allow 9 month abortions THE CROWD CHEERED!!!How sickening that was for those of us that know that a scalpel is used!! How sad.... ..@@turtlewearingahat9074
@MrSkinz
10 ай бұрын
I’m all for pro life but that support shouldn’t stop as soon as they’re born, you should create communities around supporting the mothers.
@joshuabohn9429
10 ай бұрын
We used to, entire families used to pitch in to supporting the kids, nowadays though, family ties and bonds dont seem to matter to people
@globeheating1684
10 ай бұрын
@@joshuabohn9429mate I get what you’re saying but in my world I’m seeing good people and families being families. I’m 40 and I’d say where I live compared to when I was a kid family values and friendship seems stronger.
@Waltrapz
10 ай бұрын
what world do you live in? if it's planet earth in 2023 then you must be living in africa or something.@@globeheating1684
@Lorn123
10 ай бұрын
This is my main issue with the whole thing. People want to preach pro life but there needs to be measures in place to help these women raise the babies or give them away. I feel like women sometimes don’t have any other option bc of money and their living situation.
@grammazone2679
10 ай бұрын
Automatic boot straps for the new born no hand outs, no social safety net… Not even free lunch at schools lets gooooo pro life for the win😂. Honestly we are so fcked as a country I think its fine having a pro life stance but apply that to yourself, something as invasive as a pregnancy shouldn’t be forced on to someone. It comes with more social harm than just getting an abortion. Just imagine being born to a parent who didn’t want you and hold up resentment towards you, or someone who isn’t equipped financially to support a child. What kind of life that kids going to have? Whats the alternative foster care? Bunch of problems there too with abuse and neglect, an all round bad experience for a kid in that situation. End of the day these people dont care its just another way to control women to them and they love to get off to that.
@christinastillions3308
16 сағат бұрын
My 20 week old baby in my womb is currently 7.3 ounces. He has a heartbeat, he has likes and dislikes of food already (he makes me throw up corn dogs, but love fish and fettuccine Alfredo, I feel a sense of calm when I eat those two things. Like my body settles down) He has moral weight. He is a human creation, created straight from his father and me, his mother. I could never imagine thinking of a human being not having moral weight.
@thiccc-oreo4484
10 ай бұрын
I hope every person that is against abortion is going to adopt these unwanted children so they don’t have to go through foster care or being homeless
@derrickjohnson7002
10 ай бұрын
Why don't you instead place your hope in their parents getting their heads straight and owning up to their responsibilities??? Wouldn't that make more hopeful sense?
@MOONARCH420
10 ай бұрын
You’re thinking about unbirthed babies and abortions too hard.
@jasonvoorhees7288
10 ай бұрын
My mom had me at 17, told me she wanted to abort me when I was 17. I am glad I wasn't aborted and have 2 kids myself. Got pregnant at 19 and was going to abort but chose not to, I am SO proud of my 10 year old and so happy I didn't. I would have had major regrets and I personally know women who got abortions and deeply regret it. Just because you do not want to take responsibility for making a life does not mean you have to right to terminate it. And yes there are valid reasons for abortion but doing it just because you don't want it is bad.
@ryanlucca5324
10 ай бұрын
@@gilbangoestoschoolkilling a baby does not fix the parents issues either, and most people with higher education know how to prevent having children before having to kill them, plus all of the risks associated with unprotected sex.
@BettyMeier
10 ай бұрын
Why can't adults use contraception? It works, it's been around for a long time and it isn't that expensive. On the other hand, only having sex with a significant partner instead of weekend pick ups helps as well. Oh, right, that would be adulting and so many aren't interested in that behavior.
@uyandadlamini6263
10 ай бұрын
I can’t believe this is an actual conversation 💀
@reeladam78
10 ай бұрын
Yep this is 2023. It’s insane 😂
@JohnClark-qt3qx
10 ай бұрын
45 seconds you can never get back.
@TheRunningCameraMan
10 ай бұрын
@@JohnClark-qt3qx1,5 min because you typed this comment and probably 2 minutes before you found this comment
@JohnClark-qt3qx
10 ай бұрын
You're correct @@TheRunningCameraMan
@pippadawg7037
10 ай бұрын
I know, we actually have to debate if a human fetus is worthy of respect and value. It should be a given. Yet a nut case taped her abortion and says it makes her happy every time she watches it and that it was "a positive experience." People wear T-shirts shouting out their pride in having an abortion.
@delbert9965
10 ай бұрын
As I grow older I come to realize. A woman with education and the ability to articulate wise conversations is more attractive than any model
@Ajaxx47
10 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@puresyclone5163
10 ай бұрын
yes cause that is the rarest of them all.
@marcuslarwa9098
10 ай бұрын
Yea because there’s probably more models than the women you just described.
@attroenergizer8115
10 ай бұрын
YOOOO ARE YOU MORTALS REALLY THAT DUMB...THE WHOLE CONVERSATION IS UTTER NONSENSE
@erockstoenescu6171
10 ай бұрын
It’s the most attractive thing ever. Automatic 10 when a woman can carry herself like this and shares my morals and values.
@mattjack3983
18 күн бұрын
Wow. No one was yelling or trying to fight and argue, or interrupt and shout down the other person. Nice to see people engaging in calm and rational civil discourse
@lifei2eloaded882
10 ай бұрын
You know my partner had an abortion before i met her , she was genuinely raped , first time meeting this guy, forced upon her she definitely didn't want to have his baby thats for sure. Shes pregnant with mine now and it wasnt planned but she's keeping it. Yes , we should respect human life , when it's intended and in a loving environment. Nobody should be forced to have a rapists baby against their will.
@rickycool6083
10 ай бұрын
So its ok kill the baby? Lesser evil in this case is clear.
@emilystrange2519
10 ай бұрын
agree with this completley people who are against abortion dont see this and never will get this through their head by having a rapists child theyre bringing that kid to life only to give it up and later that kid will resent all life its better to not have it than to bring it to the world to suffer knowing that they were a product of a rapist theres no way i would do that to a child if i were in the situation id rather abort it
@clerpington_the_fifth
10 ай бұрын
I understand and respect your opinion as this is obviously a sensitive subject. My opinion is that unless the child being born would cause the mother to die, I still think it would be better for the child to be born.
@jackcoquillon8975
10 ай бұрын
@clerpington_the_fifth right, because that's all supposed "pro lifers" care about. That the baby is born. You don't care for the woman who has to risk her life with a pregnancy for 9 months. You don't care for the woman's who's life will be in danger when she goes into labor. You don't care for the woman who will have to raise her rapist's child. You don't even bother to care for the kind of life that child is going to be subject to. As long as that woman is forced to give birth to the baby, everything is peachy in your world.
@gurg6950
10 ай бұрын
What makes you think this?
@shadewen
9 ай бұрын
For me, it's really sad, that this type of girls and boys, who always talking about respect, don't respect anybody.
@scotcompston
8 ай бұрын
Because they've been brainwashed to be narcissists believing that they're special beyond all others
@mariachester950
8 ай бұрын
Yes and all inclusive if u agree only with them.....living in an echo chamber...
@shelbyg.9318
7 ай бұрын
This! All talk but doesn’t respect anyone else
@Americaasone
Ай бұрын
If this life was so valuable what have you done to prevent events like Sandy Hook Elementary School and massacred 6 adults and 20 children? Where’s your outrage over this? “Every year in the United States, almost 37,000 children die before their 18th birthday.” Maybe GOD is telling you, you can’t even take care of the little ones I give you so some will come directly to ME!
@martymcfly1391
10 ай бұрын
Before my pops left this earth for the other side. He always used to tell me, " the hardest thing in life for some people is to just be themselves." This becomes more apparent day by day.
@Nowhy
10 ай бұрын
Yes, and nobody can tell you how to do that.
@Nowhy
10 ай бұрын
A song came to mind: AJJ - Big Bird
@darellcanup681
10 ай бұрын
@@Nowhy wow, I hope you're wrong. So you are saying since other groups of people don't like my group because I am black or Jewish or a different religion or follow a certain football team that if they won't to attack, injure or kill me then that is their right and nobody can tell them not to? Laws are made for a reason and they tell you what you can and can't do. You can't kill babies.
@Anirudhji2001
10 ай бұрын
@@darellcanup681it’s not a baby in the womb. You can whine about it as much as you want, but it’s not a baby in the womb. If it is, then that much heat in the womb is dangerous and the baby should be taken out. Unless you’re happy with violence towards babies. :)
@kyarl6311
10 ай бұрын
@@Anirudhji2001when does it become a baby? Honest question. I’m not calling u a baby killer or anything like that i just wondering when u start to think that person becomes a person. We can still abort babies after they would be capable of living outside the womb with medical treatment. Should we do away with incubators and stop trying to save babies who are born prematurely?
@hiimjai6064
24 күн бұрын
I love actual intellectual conversations. I am pro choice, but I can understand her reasoning for being pro life. Her point was clear and well made. It sucks that the pro choice people didn’t have a chance to explain in this video. I’ve noticed many pro choice people are looking at it from a medical standpoint while pro lifers are looking at it from a religious and personal moral standpoint.
@jmontgomery1178
11 ай бұрын
I find it bizarre that people so adamantly argue for the death of children. The plaid twins have no moral standing whatsoever.
@carolynnunes3922
11 ай бұрын
I wonder why they’re both wearing the same pattern of shirt…is it a club thing, or just between the 2 of them…?
@bulletanarchy6447
11 ай бұрын
I find it bizarre that you still keep using these arguments when they mean nothing
@carolynnunes3922
11 ай бұрын
@@bulletanarchy6447 Your comment is nothing without context!
@bulletanarchy6447
11 ай бұрын
@@carolynnunes3922 Tell me a pro life argument that means something if you want to prove I have no context.
@boogiemane1089
11 ай бұрын
@@bulletanarchy6447lmao I love how you criticize his comment for being nothing while you do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to prove him wrong.....you literally posted a comment about nothing, crying about he has no argument 🤣🤣🤣 you're literally like a child
@devilrv89
10 ай бұрын
Funny how this love and respect never seen to extend to the WOMAN CARRYING THE BABY!!!!!!
@axiomaticidioms3857
10 ай бұрын
Real example or it didn't happen?
@Lorn123
10 ай бұрын
@@axiomaticidioms3857I think it’s pretty easy to google or you know read the comments under this short lol
@pharoahreyo9913
10 ай бұрын
Funny how people ignore the fact that the love and respect is there for pregnant women
@kibbakia1414
10 ай бұрын
Respect and help is out there and more available than people think. Free help.
@Nolan5k
10 ай бұрын
Because it's not love or respect. It's their own religious beliefs. What they consider a counter argument always boils down to mental gymnastics and reductive fallacies.
@Random.66
11 ай бұрын
One thing i have seen in common is that these students already have a fix mindset which leads them to not learn from others perspective... It's really important to also see from others perspective
@some1else2baby
11 ай бұрын
That is an excellent observation. At college level a person should be seeking out other opinions and information. Students now seem to only want to argue their point and be open to other’s.
@tabbyreed8925
11 ай бұрын
We understand your perspective, we just don't care. If abortion is against your religion or against your morals, fine, don't have them. However, you have no right to stop everyone else on earth.
@Rigorous_Storm
10 ай бұрын
@@tabbyreed8925so you're saying that good has no right to stop evil? Who gave you these rights?
@tabbyreed8925
10 ай бұрын
@@Rigorous_Storm It's only good to you, that's my point. There are reasons for abortion beyond just not wanting a baby and they are good reasons. Life of the mother, deformity, illnesses, anything that is worse than death basically. Why bring a child into the world you know will do nothing but suffer? Don't go on about sometimes doctors are wrong, yadda-yadda, that happens very rarely.
@guardian7773
10 ай бұрын
@@tabbyreed8925sure, just like police have no right to stop a criminal from killing people right?
@Nancy-sy7uw
8 күн бұрын
Thank you for the stand that you take, and the courage to take that stand.❤
@Sonya_Villegas05
10 ай бұрын
If life is so valuable why does our system not protect mothers and children and give them access to healthcare and safe and affordable places to live.
@domusardet4961
10 ай бұрын
You mean why don't people embrace Leftist welfare programs? Putting politics aside, however, since I don't want to sidetrack from the main point - protecting & valuing human life - would you seriously argue that since not everyone has healthcare, nobody should have healthcare? Because you're actually arguing to NOT protect mother & child at the point in their lives when they're MOST vulnerable & needy. You can't claim that moms & their children only deserve our protection & help sometimes, without being guilty of the hypocrisy you just suggested. So if you're for helping them have healthcare & affordable housing, you need to help them at ALL stages to be consistent
@domusardet4961
10 ай бұрын
@LadyLee1982 how to say you're a clichéd product of Marxist academia without actually saying it, lol. Do tell us where your socialist utopia can be found, O entitled, I mean enlightened one
@PatrickGigachad
10 ай бұрын
because Greed
@rt-uh6mt
10 ай бұрын
If they're that poor they have access to medicaid and other avenues for help.
@lukewarmape603
10 ай бұрын
@@ThyMidnightShow I have a hard time believing this organisation has helped more women deal with their unwanted pregnancies than planned parenthood…
@LeahPehl-my2pu
10 ай бұрын
of course all life has value, but the issue is that people value the life of a fetus more than the woman carrying it. also, children deserve to be born to parents who truly want them
@billhester8821
10 ай бұрын
Would you keep your legs closed to avoid termination?
@BobbyLewis
10 ай бұрын
Children deserve to be born and have a chance. We don't get to kill baby's because the mom didn't just didn't want it. The mom already chose to creat that baby and now doesn't want to take responsibility and raise it. Just because we are trying to stop the mass slaughter of millions of babies doesn't mean we should also be responsible for the entire life of everyone.
@drewbenoit9568
10 ай бұрын
Give an example of that, I see people say that all the time but I don't see how that's true
@pranavg.9811
10 ай бұрын
So you believe a fetus having the right to not be killed is it having more rights than its mother? And you believe a foetus should not have more rights than its mother? So you would be for legal killing of a 8month old foetus?
@fettacheeze
10 ай бұрын
@@billhester8821what if someone forces your legs open? Is pregnancy through rape still part of your statement?
@TheChromeCannon
10 ай бұрын
that was the most respectful and educational slap down ever handed
@dalezegarelli5553
10 ай бұрын
A fetus is totally separate from the woman.
@sawhorse48
10 ай бұрын
I agree.
@cyberzenASMR
10 ай бұрын
Logically, she is still losing the argument. The fetus is in an environment where the female body is taking actions to kill the fetus. This process assures that healthy children are born. Only the woman gets to decide. In nature, things occur that is gruesome. What humans do is above nature. YET, we still need to accept nature. Life and DEATH is part of this cycle.
@NeuroDot7
10 ай бұрын
She’s wrong tho, people don’t value just life, we already justify killing animals, humans value sophisticated consciousness and consciousness in general, an early fetus doesn’t have consciousness so killing it is not literal murder before 24 weeks
@StrayGod10
10 ай бұрын
I can smell the reddit on this comment
@090403created
11 күн бұрын
This lady is wise, brave and beautiful!!!
@nanettesc
11 ай бұрын
We are not animals and should protect the baby inside and outside the womb. Our Moms chose to love and protect us in and outside their wombs. We were born to do the same. Blessings.
@markprange2430
11 ай бұрын
We are animals, and related to all other animals.
@billh2947
11 ай бұрын
Write the same reason if you murder a pregnant woman there is two murder charges
@sarahm-a2782
11 ай бұрын
@@billh2947not in every state. Dens devalued the pregnancy that it's only one murder in NY. They deliberately made that distinction in recent years.
@19supersammie98
11 ай бұрын
We are animals too but I don't know ANY animal that tries to kill its babies while pregnant. It's biological for animals to want to pass down their genes, and even animal species that try to kill their children after they're born, it's because hunger won out but no animal species just kills its young because they don't want it. 🤷🏼♀️
@lyaneris
11 ай бұрын
@@19supersammie98lions do
@Saba.2a
10 ай бұрын
As someone who was born with a genetic condition, abortion needs to stay legal since some abortions are in the best interests of the mother or the foetus. If it’s going to be illegal it doesn’t mean it’s not happening, it just going to be done illegally which can be deadly to the mother!
@shawnheidingsfelder8179
9 ай бұрын
If it stayed as "abort only for extreme circumstances," you could probably get enough support behind it to really make it legal. Unfortunately, that's not what most women are arguing for. They want "choice." Extreme circumstances involve either very little or no choice (you either lose one life or two). "I choose not to be pregnant" is something you should think about before doing the actions that create life, not to mention that there are already morning after pills that are relatively easy to obtain. A society that would allow such callousness as ending life because it inconveniences someone is a society that won't last long. History has had many civilizations and empires that turned to killing babies for various reasons, and none of them are around anymore.
@cr6148
9 ай бұрын
@@shawnheidingsfelder8179that also comes with the point of actually teaching kids of keeping their legs closed before marriage, to not cheat, and the dangers of the actions. After all that, it’s now more focused on whether abortion is good or not. Be it that the fetus is human life or in the chance to scare them into not doing it. Either way, making it illegal is sadly not going to stop them from aborting the fetus themselves. There is also the chance of not knowing/denial to know you were pregnant until it’s too late. Both adults and teens have similar (that want the baby/calm about it happening) to drastically different actions in that situation to get rid of it after birth.
@romemetrodome4427
9 ай бұрын
So you’ll kill the baby or die trying ?😭😭
@-ThatGuy-
9 ай бұрын
Yep. I've brought this point up to people. Either you legalize it or there's gonna be a lot more illegal abortions. Or in the case of a good where I live people will just keep the pregnancy a secret, drink enough to cause a miscarriage and claim they had no idea they were pregnant. And that carries risk of damage to the fetus if it doesn't miscarry or might even kill the Mom. It's no different than trying to put people in prison for drugs. You're never gonna stop people from doing them. You're better off just regulating it.
@victoryalynnjames5194
9 ай бұрын
Literally 1% of abortions are to save a mother.
@amosamazing
10 ай бұрын
she proved the opponents point, saying there is different types of life makes pro choice make more sense, the unborn human is not at the same moral hierarchy as the born human
@chocolatenikki
10 ай бұрын
Right!
@finfrog3237
10 ай бұрын
no, much higher, because unlike a born human, a fetus isn't full of shit.
@ponderrous2659
10 ай бұрын
It's only a different level if you decide that. I certainly haven't decided that.
@Lita-yr4wt
10 ай бұрын
Exactly. Nice catch!
@pureabsolute4618
10 ай бұрын
@@ponderrous2659 What is the moral weight of a single fertized egg? How about with one brain cell. How about with a single pain receptor. How about with a beating heart?
@maraleehouser9350
24 күн бұрын
She told it like it is! So much respect for her as a fetus is a living being, yet some think a blade of grass is more important. She pointed out the truth to make people think. God Bless ger as she soeaks the truth! ❤ 👶
@prowellmanfitness201
10 ай бұрын
The difference is with a human comes responsibility. They don’t want the responsibility, so they say it’s not worthy.
@aj-sz8mu
10 ай бұрын
I assume this is a debate on abortion. The difference isnt that a human isnt worthy. Is your egg or sperm or embryo considered a human? If so, when a woman has a period, a potential child was not born, thus died, thus aborted. An embryo in a lab is the same thing. Each has a "potential" to be a human being. I assume we're all logical that a period is normal and women shouldnt be pregnant every 9 months to keep that egg alive. So then when do these start defining it a human? at conception some would argue. At 6 weeks, at 12 weeks etc. Is it pain, is it the heartbeat, which defines it? The answer to that varies per person. What is true however is that a fetus cant survive without its mother, but the mother has autonomy towards her own body. Once we've come up with a way to take the baby alive from the mother's womb whenever she doesnt want the baby and help it live, then abortion should be abolished. But we don't have that. The mom as an individual loses her rights to the baby which is wrong.
@rahn45
10 ай бұрын
@@aj-sz8mu What a silly notion, a newly born baby is not independent either. No child on their own for quite a few years will survive without the presence of an adult. So many 'guiltless' and 'wonderful' and 'pure' animals that are placed above humans risk their life and spend all of their energy into their offspring. We even see some animals go through what could be considered pain, suffering, and grief when they fail as parents and their offspring die. Women aren't gaining rights by the right to choose, they are being stripped of the right to their motherhood; and for what? A job in where no one tells them that they are loved, and that they are wonderful? That they can't imagine what life would be like without them? People have substituted children with virtue signaling and have convinced themselves that it's better than being a parent. They demand the love and respect that they expect from a child they don't have from an uncaring world, and get all angry when that uncaring world gives them nothing.
@zlotywest860
10 ай бұрын
Never had a puppy huh?
@brentoncarter4275
10 ай бұрын
you people are the only demo that doesn't want to take care of people. republicans are currently defunding school lunches. idiot.
@georgejoy7635
10 ай бұрын
Nah the difference life doesn’t begin in the womb you remember life and you don’t remember that
@honeybee6858
10 ай бұрын
Her communication skills are on point , from her demeanor to articulation it’s just flawless
@cryptogecko6764
10 ай бұрын
That's the way I saw it...
@gurug1161
10 ай бұрын
Lol I saw a dumb analogy. So I eat fish, can I start eating human instead? Respect does not mean the same thing
@crustydog1666
10 ай бұрын
@@gurug1161 I think their argument would be "As long as a human has a heartbeat, we should help use resources to keep that heart beating even if the brain has flatlined, and shows no signs of recovering."
@daleemrick9816
10 ай бұрын
@@gurug1161 you can if you want to be a cannibal.
@madgodloki
10 ай бұрын
If we found an alien species that could use tools and clearly had experiences like ours, and hopes and dreams, would it not being human dna make you think it's not worth the same as human life? It's not about being human. Once something has a conscious experience you have to have a good reason that outweighs their rights to end that experience. A fetus does not have a conscious experience until 20-24 weeks at the earliest.
@BroHood100
10 ай бұрын
Speaking as a black man in America, Thank you my sister, for keeping it real. Teach one , Each one. No jive.
@justinpaul8160
10 ай бұрын
I'm with you brother.
@jim7498
10 ай бұрын
The sooner we stop the "as a (insert color/ race) man/ woman/ person" the better off we will all be.
@jay143.
10 ай бұрын
A black man from where? 1975? That was the whitest comment I've heard. Stop playin'
@prismo6621
10 ай бұрын
This is FOR SURE a bot comment. No real African American talks like this anymore. lmao
@zoro-i8u
10 ай бұрын
@@prismo6621 Seriously? What if I said no white/European-descended, native, Indian, Arab, etc. American can speak in full sentences or use grammar? It would be inherently wrong. I am African American myself (second-generation) and I can use grammar just fine. On the Internet, however, it makes it easier to use simplifications as long as people know what you're referring to: known as slang.
@patgrogg4586
Ай бұрын
King Alexander said when he was about to die that I want all my possessions to be placed outside because i want people to know that no matter how much wealth you own that it cannot be taken into the after life . Then he ordered that the finest doctors hold up the casket to show the people that no matter how many years of healing and research theyve done I want the people to know that no one can stop someone from dying .
@teresamann6977
Ай бұрын
I love how she uses the logic and comes full circle to prove her point. Bravo that was awesome!!!!
@jordancollins184
10 ай бұрын
The fact that she thought she ate with "yes, because it is separate from a human being." That statement within itself was just so evil.
@beverlypeterson291
10 ай бұрын
Right?! 😳😳
@mysticjen379
10 ай бұрын
I got a funny chill from that. Like there was more to that statement that meets the eye and it’s within her. A darkness…
@yresonirba87
10 ай бұрын
A puppy has value because it's not a human being is what she really meant. 😑
@grandandroid6283
10 ай бұрын
Probably she identifies as a puppy that's why she's inclined towards her own species 😂😂
@charlesadams8279
10 ай бұрын
@@mysticjen379its demonic. It seems that people that dont gave The Holy Spirit are often possessed in some sort of way
@fromjennywithlove5407
10 ай бұрын
“These baby killers care more about their dogs and animals than a baby in the womb.” Ive been saying this for years.
@shaychylde1
10 ай бұрын
And they even care more for a blade of grass...
@ChyloeReece
10 ай бұрын
Yup, one feels pain and fear, will go on NOT to destroy the earth for their own selfish greedy gains, the other does not, and WILL go on to cause suffering and pain to all others on this planet.
@stevesilva2780
10 ай бұрын
So, it's OK for the government to tell the parent what to do with the _parent's_ baby in the _parent's_ womb, and what the parent says means nothing. But when the kid gets older and goes to a government school, suddenly the government can't say shit, because now the kid belongs to the parent, and what the parent says means everything.
@mysticjen379
10 ай бұрын
We know many of them are narcissistic, so I think it’s because animals don’t answer back. I’ve encountered many narcissists in particular who make a big show of loving animals, but are horrid to human beings behind closed doors! In general, I don’t trust people who like animals more than they like humans, or vice versa. Healthy people are capable of caring about both.
@makifaale8325
10 ай бұрын
They can't make babies.. cause to my calculations the math ain't mathing 😂
@JorjaBrown-wl8bt
16 күн бұрын
❤❤ you go girl! I’m so glad we have people like you in the world. Good job
@mattchris83
10 ай бұрын
If they hate themselves for how they were born, they can't love.
@priya.ch.5151
10 ай бұрын
Totally agreed.
@let_me_explain8572
10 ай бұрын
But can you blame them for that?
@dameonaquest7607
10 ай бұрын
@@let_me_explain8572yes. We’re responsible for our own actions and the way we represent ourselves and our views
@EZDuzIt1979
10 ай бұрын
Of course they hate themselves, look at them, unwanted women and bitter for it.
@kking1470
10 ай бұрын
@@let_me_explain8572, not blaming, just explaining.
@GATOxNORTE
10 ай бұрын
The worst enemy of a human is another human
@Midala87
10 ай бұрын
I've been saying this for a long time now. We need cities that house only high IQ people.
@voodooreptiles3553
10 ай бұрын
So far.
@brunothe360
10 ай бұрын
Human is the mist destructive living in the planet and the problem is goverment because these 2 kids in black and red shirt they need help medication mental help support they need to get lockdown they are dangerous for the planet how can they walk free in the street whit our kids 😢😢
@jfpipe1
10 ай бұрын
Some of the most intelligent people ever to walk earth were very hard to get along with , or were so influential that they became emperors and kings. Think about it, they are so influential that people WILLINGLY do their will. BUT , only great leaders can go the distance. There are also intelligent but greedy arrongant dense leaders that hold up the fascade for a couple years and then people start noticing that these supposed “leaders” are really parasites feeding off society by intelligent but deceptive tactics.
@Marsbars-iz3iv
10 ай бұрын
No, it's Satan who uses humans against each other
@masuco18
10 ай бұрын
Saddest part in the world is that people will cherish a pet but don’t care about people
@littlewigglemonster7691
10 ай бұрын
I do but Im also not going around and impregnating Bish's so idk
@notsure6222
10 ай бұрын
dogs are better than humans, so...
@lambda3553
10 ай бұрын
Pets can't start amass genocide
@MightyenaWildclaws
10 ай бұрын
I agree and disagree with this statement as a pet owner. Sometimes the disappointment in people is so strong that you can’t help but love your animal more.
@notsure6222
10 ай бұрын
@@lambda3553 and are more loyal than most people, also they let you pet them
@EliHydefitness
7 күн бұрын
She speaks the truth! Bravo 👏
@thebrewingsailor9172
10 ай бұрын
Also, to people who would say that an unborn child is a parasite, that is medically incorrect. The unborn child actually helps boost the immune system of the mother. Since both beings (mother and child) are getting something out of the relationship, that is defined as a symbiotic relationship, rather than a parasitical one.
@dat2ra
10 ай бұрын
Nice try, but no. Babies often kill their hosts (mothers).
@remrocket2885
10 ай бұрын
Often is an exception. Just because that fits your narrative it doesn’t make it true-
@BeastMaster-xr6xy
10 ай бұрын
@@dat2rayou are saying a blatant lie and a very stupid one at that
@danielkeene3852
10 ай бұрын
Parasites are not of the same species as the host, so that means that an unborn baby is not a parasite.
@danielkeene3852
10 ай бұрын
@@dat2raI'll take "things that are not true" for $1,000, Alex.
@702twhite
11 ай бұрын
This is a phenomenal argument against the wickedness of abortion
@bulletanarchy6447
11 ай бұрын
What was the argument against abortion ?
@702twhite
11 ай бұрын
@@bulletanarchy6447 that human life is scared and should be protected. Did you not watch the video?
@bulletanarchy6447
11 ай бұрын
@@702twhite So you would agree that human life is sacred and we shouldn't allow unwanted embryos to grow inside a human life ?
@702twhite
11 ай бұрын
@@bulletanarchy6447 but who’s both allowing it and I wanting it at the same time? The mother! Women have the final say in both abortion and sex period! And by your logic, if my mom wakes up one day and decides she doesn’t want me anymore even though I’m 27 she should have the right to just kill me? How about people don’t have unprotected sex unless you’re ready to deal with the consequences of your actions! Abortion is murder. Embryo, fetus, whatever call it what you will, it IS a human child!
@bulletanarchy6447
11 ай бұрын
@@702twhite Why would your mother have a right to kill you? How would that terminate a pregnancy that is intersecting with her anatomy Duh! of course she can't. Abortion is not murder, the number of children you have increases by an integer at birth, full stop.
@leseanpayne2805
10 ай бұрын
The person she was talking to broke it down really accurately. She didn't say "yes" to a blade of grass being worthy of respect. She said "about the same as an unborn fetus." Then asked about life on mars, it was "Is a single celled organism life?" So even given the oppurtunity to force yes or no questions as the leader of a conversation, she had to simply disregard the more nuanced answers and pretend the other speaker had talked themselves into a paradox or been cornered. But they were actually aware of the obvious trapping and didn't have to contradict themselves at all. They simply *did* clarify that a blade of grass was lower on their hierarchy of value, right next to unborn fetuses, which implies they're different than human lives. Immediately. They clarified that like, right away.
@thatguy720
10 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what the issue is though. They admitted that a blade of grass has the same potential and deserves the same respect as an unborn baby. You’re going absolutely nowhere with this comment.
@mushi3255
10 ай бұрын
Exactly, the lady just simply disregarded their answers and not even took in consideration of what both of those two people were saying even though they were giving understandable answers. The lady is just twisting what theyre both saying into something false or an answer those two people didnt even give.
@DRussellHustle
10 ай бұрын
@@mushi3255it’s literally what they all do it’s like a procedure for them to look good in front of the camera. Doesn’t matter what they support the moment these people get in front of a camera it’s all acting/salesmanship
@kidcxspr
10 ай бұрын
@@thatguy720its an extreme example because they were asked the question with THAT example presented to them, the lady tried to put words in their mouth so she can manipulate small minded people like you to be on her side
@nuknukisdead
10 ай бұрын
@@thatguy720 You call it an unborn baby, scientists call it a zygote, embryo, or fetus depending on its stage of development.
@gwynethjarrett
Ай бұрын
i think everthing is worthy of respect and support
@Lita-yr4wt
10 ай бұрын
Exactly. An embryo doesn't have the complexity to be considered as human a woman with a uterus. It doesn't need rights. She does.
@ReyRey277
10 ай бұрын
Wdym "exactly" are we watching the same video?
@Lita-yr4wt
10 ай бұрын
@@MuadhHamza-jo5czembryo doesn't need rights. Woman needs her rights to be respected
@Lita-yr4wt
10 ай бұрын
@@ReyRey277 embryo doesn't have the complexity of a larger organism. Her logic was good she just used it wrong
@Lita-yr4wt
10 ай бұрын
@@MuadhHamza-jo5cz I'm not sure if you're qualified to be part of this debate since I don't even know if you have a uterus
@TheZodiacRipper
10 ай бұрын
@@Lita-yr4wt It identifies as it, no uterus needed.
@KlinxKreations
10 ай бұрын
“I respect the fetus, but I respect someone with human experience more” -some random guy i saw I’m just adding, I’m pro-choice, not pro-abortion. I feel as if women should at least get the choice to get rid of a fetus before it becomes too late. I’m just saying this quote because just imagine what a mother who could have been raped, sexually assaulted, or impregnated without consent. Imagine how hard it would be for both her and her baby if she gave birth. There’s already too many kids in foster care and adoption centers. I was adopted myself. But I’m seriously questioning why pro-life folks really think that they should get to have an opinion that could very much change an entire life because of their morals.
@THEFRENDLYCOW
10 ай бұрын
I think therefore I am. If you apply the logic that ”that group of cell had the potential for life if you didn’t interfere” then Ejaculation is murder for the sake of pleasure because you had no right to expel all those cells who could have had potential for life if you just tried and got laid instead
@jessicai7096
9 ай бұрын
@@THEFRENDLYCOW that is genuinely such a good point
@MapacheAstral
9 ай бұрын
@@THEFRENDLYCOW But sperm do not have the potential to create life if you do not interfere. Furthermore, they lose fertility as time passes and the human body naturally expels them when we sleep even without masturbation...
@theyoutubeguide1109
9 ай бұрын
@@THEFRENDLYCOW It’s about life beginning at conception. So if you’re using some sort of contraceptive or birth control to prevent getting pregnant, you’re preventing having to get an abortion of a baby you don’t want. But when you don’t take the steps to prevent conception and conceive a baby and then abort it, that’s when it becomes the topic that they’re talking about here.
@THEFRENDLYCOW
9 ай бұрын
@@theyoutubeguide1109 you’re talking about a completely different thing when you say ”life”. Cells automatically developing is similar to your sperm automatically swimming to the egg, each one a equal opportunity to be an individual person if not interfered with. When there’s some level brain activity we cannot see if this person is conscious or not yet, but when there’s no brain activity we can say this is a person that has, and will now never be conscious therefore never thinking so never being.
@G85-x1s
10 ай бұрын
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Mark Twain
@CareForEmAll
10 ай бұрын
Bro said that a fish is comparable to the blade of grass which is comparable to a fetus bro what 💀
@fakumadda1632
10 ай бұрын
It's almost like he had met Trump.
@corneliastone1807
10 ай бұрын
These two ‘loggers’ are beyond stupid, honey……and she didn’t get pulled down to their 1 brain cell level. They are just two ‘loggers’ that share a brain cell.
@corneliastone1807
10 ай бұрын
@@fakumadda1632awww. TDS is treatable.
@Nick-fi1mc
10 ай бұрын
@@fakumadda1632please make sense! It's not very hard to do
@waynesalls5701
17 күн бұрын
You can tell who just wants to argue and has attitude from the beginning. Some people aren’t there to learn or understand the other side, rather they just want to fight and disrespect
@sbuckle1171
10 ай бұрын
That girl did an intellectual KO on those lumberjacks.
@PeristalsisActivate
10 ай бұрын
Not really
@grayfox4239
10 ай бұрын
yeah, not really - the lumberjack siblings had a much better argument
@thejudge3658
10 ай бұрын
Not really, hence why there are about 400,000 children in American foster care. Pro-birthers care for fetuses until they are born, pro-choicers care about the kids we already have and will have in the future. Huge difference.
@lorenzoscott3907
10 ай бұрын
@@thejudge3658Interesting argument when the amount of pro-choicers asked if they have fostered or adopted don’t seem to differ much from the assumed view of pro-lifers.🤔
@jeffeastwood1051
10 ай бұрын
@@thejudge3658 The best part is they then rail off on the absent father stereo types. If they weren't so high an mighty they would adopt them no question.
@joshhardy5646
10 ай бұрын
She walked them right into that checkmate without them realizing it was happening. Well done
@TheMaleRei
10 ай бұрын
Which is important that if a person happens to be on the receiving end of such questioning, to put a stop to it and refuse to play the game... "Get to the point." "I'm trying." "You can get there faster, I'm not playing 20 questions." "If you just give me time, I can-" "This isn't a game. Please get to the point."
@marklassanske2716
10 ай бұрын
I don't think he or she realize anything
@foreverrocks7989
10 ай бұрын
Negative
@sipjedekat8525
10 ай бұрын
It's not really a checkmate though. Her opponents are just not bright enough to see the flaws in her logic.
@ChameleoSalamander1
10 ай бұрын
@@sipjedekat8525what flaws were in her logic?
@marcpennington8455
10 ай бұрын
A single 2 hour old newborn infant is infinitely more magnificent and special and amazing than a thousand trillion galaxies where there is no life.
@Mark-nu3us
10 ай бұрын
All life that we've ever known came from one of those galaxies that once had no life... Yet, here we are... Imagine having passed 4th grade and then forming an opinion on something...
@Mark-nu3us
10 ай бұрын
@@johnatandeer4946 Somehow the concept of ethics is lost on y'all... Talk about morality! Somehow only humans can rate the value of something? LMFAO... Y'all are somethin' else!
@dylanalbertson5269
10 ай бұрын
@@Mark-nu3us yeah what, thats not even a debate, humans are the only thing on this planet capable of understanding and assigning value to anything. all other life on earth is incapable of this feat. also, morality is always subjective, hate to tell ya that. , if it wasnt you wouldnt have people commiting acts of "evil"and feeling entirely justified in doing so. morally youre designed to value the advancement of your own species above a blade of grass
@brandocalrissian3294
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's just not true, but you're entitled to your opinion.
@breakfastonuranus
9 ай бұрын
@@johnatandeer4946hahaha human arrogance? The world existed before you, will exist after you you're irrelevant 😂
@mebsteve47
16 күн бұрын
Ronald Reagan explained, It’s not a Religious argument I’m making but a Constitutional argument, that all People have the Right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. And Science has yet to prove an Infant in the womb is not a Person. So we don’t have a choice but to honor the Constitution and Protect all People. Sounds right to me.
@hurbig
9 ай бұрын
I think she makes a great point about there being differences in the value of life. All life has value but that doesn’t mean protecting it at all cost. I eat fish from the ocean. I remove weeds from my garden. I eat potatoes every day. Those are all forms of life that I destroy. Not without a reason, but I do destroy them. Same thing goes for an embryo. It does have worth that should be considered, but at the end of the day, the quality of life of the person bearing the child should also be considered. An unfertilized egg does not have the same worth as an embryo. An embryo made out of 4 cells does not have the same worth as a newborn baby.
@robertmiles1888
9 ай бұрын
That's a personal question and belief though. The real question is, should the government be legislating it? Absolutely not.
@beniocabeleleiraleila5799
9 ай бұрын
When it is 4 cells, you literally cant know he is there even with pregnancy tests
@peterross3566
9 ай бұрын
Ist there a difference between an intelligent and feeling Baby and a Baby with problems? You consider the Wörth of the living from the becoming mother. Think about it. Could it be, that an Embryo in the 5 month hast more emotion and so on than an already born very diabled baby? At a moment you come to the conclusion, that life has worth in it self. Born or Not Born. The state has to protect the weakest. These are unborn babys. Mother will come over there problems in time with help from others, but a once killed baby to be IS dead for ever.
@robertmiles1888
9 ай бұрын
@@peterross3566 The problem with your whole argument, Roe v Wade settled that and majority of us agreed with you 5mos is close to viability. Also, majority of abortions did/do occur long before that. Your ilk are actually supporting more of those abortions to happen because of limiting access.
@xfile1966
9 ай бұрын
Dang I thought that was an obese boy. It sure is hard to tell nowadays.
@gabrieldpaula1139
10 ай бұрын
We all value plants, but if your forced to choose between a blade of grass & your dog, everybody is picking the dog, you can't measure the life of an 2 week embryo and compare it to that of a sentient human being who has an experience of consciousness
@pranavg.9811
10 ай бұрын
So you support killing people in comas knowing they will wake up in 9 months? Or if having had experience in the past matter then why? Someone who was born unconscious and lived for 10 years on life support; but now in 9 months doctors can wake them up, you think its okay to kill them.
@I_like_dem_BEANZ
10 ай бұрын
I completely agree
@Boogiewalker
10 ай бұрын
Wow... Think about how you're qualifying human value there, my dude. Because you're kinda sounding a little Eugenics-y. Yikes. 😬
@triobyte
10 ай бұрын
Dogs taste better, who chooses grass?
@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651
10 ай бұрын
What's the scenario context of choosing grown human being to an embryo?
@Conrad293
9 ай бұрын
she is right, there is a Moral hierarchie of all Living things. and the value of a human being inside a womb is higher than a one cell organism, but not higher than the value of the woman carrying the fetus
@rpruneau68
9 ай бұрын
Yet a fetus should be held at a higher value than those values of a women.
@gurusmoke8034
8 ай бұрын
The women choosed to have sex We are all intelligent enough and know that when we have sex the women can get pregnant even when we use condoms or other stuff 🤷🏼♂️ Hold women accountable for their bad decisions
@c.s.herman860
8 ай бұрын
In a life or death situation?
@gurusmoke8034
8 ай бұрын
@@c.s.herman860 Most women don’t get an abortion because they got raped Don’t take the worst case scenario to defend abortion that’s just stupid
@Conrad293
8 ай бұрын
@@rpruneau68 by "those women" you mean every female human that gets pregnant or what?
@desertfox1442
9 күн бұрын
You can't argue these people to your side.
@the_original_van_d
10 ай бұрын
"Bacteria is life on Mars, but a heartbeat isnt life on earth? ...weird." -Tom McDonald
@RobbieHubbard-i6q
10 ай бұрын
Transgender is nothing but heartburn at least to the rest of us
@holydubee1
10 ай бұрын
Tom is very right
@the_original_van_d
10 ай бұрын
@@RobbieHubbard-i6q I dunno man, I had heartburn once. It was pretty bad. I was a real bitch for a couple hours....
@TradGirl1991
10 ай бұрын
He conducts a blitz every time he drops a track these days 👌🏻😎🎶
@Mikey420isTaken
10 ай бұрын
Who in the hell actually said that because it's a load of bullshit, not one pro abortionist thinks you should kill a baby after a heart beat and a bacteria on Mars is a life because it doesn't become a different form, it's fully developed now, a real comparison would be saying nobody cares about a clump of cells on earth just like they don't care about a carbon molecule on Mars.
@lindagrafix
3 ай бұрын
The mother is a human being who is worthy of respect and value.
@DS-ld8ns
3 ай бұрын
So is the child. So if mother respect herself and values her self she should choose a sexual partner she is willing to procreate with and have off spring with. A woman who doesn't respect herself nor value her self reproduces with people they areen't willing to have children with.
@starkgamescharmbracelet
3 ай бұрын
@@DS-ld8nsFor you to think that the father is the only reason a woman would want an abortion is hilariously sad. Money is a big thing. Maybe she doesn’t have it. Mental health and age is a big thing. Maybe she isn’t mentally capable or ready to take care of a child. Maybe she’s too young. Maybe she just doesn’t want to be a mother. Intercourse doesn’t have a sole purpose of reproduction. Women are allowed to partake in it without the consequence of reproduction. Especially if they’ve taken the steps to avoid pregnancy but it happens anyway.
@DS-ld8ns
2 ай бұрын
@@starkgamescharmbracelet reproduction happesn with intercourse. Sharing needles comes with the risk of getting a disease. Minimize that risk by using clean needles. Minimize the risk of pregnancies' by using a form of contraception. abortion isn't contraception.
@DS-ld8ns
2 ай бұрын
@@starkgamescharmbracelet if you are too young to be taking care of a child then you are too young to have sex. If you aren't mentally capable of taking a child you probably shouldn't be having sex. Our reproductive organs our meant for reproduction. That's kinda how humans aree madee you know.
@DS-ld8ns
2 ай бұрын
@@starkgamescharmbracelet You don't need money to have a child. Proof is Humans have been born for thousand of years without money.
@sawolaja65
10 ай бұрын
Protect that woman at all costs. Loved the way she built up and constructed her argument with logic and used her opponents own argument against her own self! Brilliant intelligence.
@tylerclarke4829
10 ай бұрын
She did not at all. All she did was point out the obvious. There are moral hierarchies. Thats all she has confirmed. What she glossed over is that morals are adopted by the individual, not the group. SHE believes that a zygote/embryo is on equal grounds to a fully independent human. Other people do not. People have different morals. To be clear - Society decides the morals (just our overall, usually most popular, beliefs as a unit) but the individual decides on wether to accept these morals. For example, we have collectively as a Society decided that killing a murderer is immoral. A lot of people, myself included, wouldn’t find it to be immoral for a parent to shoot the F*** out of the murderer of one of their children. This is the same. Society decided that abortions are okay, now the more popular belief is that they’re not. It is still up to the individual on wether or not they’re an evil act or a necessary medical need. And just going to leave it here for the eventual ‘you hate babies’ rage, i am against abortions. At least as they were. You should not just be able to abort a child whenever you want (within the 24 week limit) and you should not just be able to abort a pregnancy consecutively (using it as birth control). I think we put harsher restrictions on abortions - but not completely get rid of them. For starters we need to dissolve the promiscuous nature of our current society. But then again, that leads us back to the morals!
@robber2947
10 ай бұрын
@@tylerclarke4829 only one side, and consistently the same group, is forcing their moral beliefs onto the other. Even you at the tail of your statement: "we need to dissolve the.." is you proposing society as a whole accept your standards.
@tylerclarke4829
10 ай бұрын
@@robber2947 You seem to have made no point? I literally said ‘I think’ - acknowledging that it is entirely just personal opinion. And even doubled down on that fact by linking it back to the morals. Which, in case you missed it, my whole point on morals was that they’re not unilaterally accepted across society. Everybody thinks differently, and so no singular group should have the power to impose their beliefs on another. So no, i wasn’t proposing that society conformed to my beliefs whatsoever. Merely stating what i think is the root cause of the abuse of the ability to have safe abortions. Not some Holier than thou shit.
@jeff1872t
10 ай бұрын
This argument is not the work of logic. It's a false equivalency.
@Gingabread-bw6xj
10 ай бұрын
Not really. Every single one of us on this planet has inconsistent beliefs. I do think it’s important to see where you stand on things. She agrees that there’s a hierarchy, but then put her own beliefs that a fetus would be closer to the top of that hierarchy. Not everyone would. Not everyone even agrees that there is a hierarchy. Some vegans for example see animal life the same as humans. And yet some vegans would be okay with abortion and some not. I’m not saying she’s dumb by any means. I’m just saying this argument isn’t well constructed. The other girl could have easily had a different opinion in hierarchy and her last statement wouldn’t have worked.
@sherryclark5475
23 күн бұрын
She laid that out beautifully
@yaipr12pr40
10 ай бұрын
She said it so calmly I felt like she was correcting me and we on the same side😂
@goggutube
10 ай бұрын
LOL!!! My saliva uncontrollably flew out of my mouth after reading this! Thanks man!
@patrickkilduff5272
10 ай бұрын
thats because you don't listen to actual reason...but go off of feelings and vibes...like a true moron republican
@drawings7918
10 ай бұрын
But the poor woman who can't pay for the hospital bills and is risking her life against her will for this baby deserves more respect and support
@FromALeosPerspective7
10 ай бұрын
Why did she have sex knowing there is a possibility of pregnancy?
@brittred5588
10 ай бұрын
@@FromALeosPerspective7you forgot to mention the man also being involved, so he is also responsible.
@TheSuperadrian1
10 ай бұрын
@@brittred5588he is but women are gatekeepers of sex and they choose whom they sleep with.. and that's why man isn't so pressed about stuff like that by society
@Bobblem101
10 ай бұрын
@@FromALeosPerspective7S.A ? 🤷🏽♀️
@Javy321chan
10 ай бұрын
@@FromALeosPerspective7Because she is human...
@destinyreturns4885
9 ай бұрын
These people don't even realize they just made her case.
@christelledeo7528
8 ай бұрын
They all try to outsmart the other while contradicting themselfs 😂
@courtneyrussell9273
8 ай бұрын
Exactly!! It’s like they aren’t even hearing the words coming out of they’re own mouths!!
@keyser456
8 ай бұрын
But that's assuming logic and reason are applicable. In their world, they are not. They are unprincipled. They say things like "my body my choice" but they don't mean them. Look at the v mandates, which they *all* support.
@ryant5447
8 ай бұрын
@@keyser456I’m sorry, when did the federal government force you to get a vaccine? Would the answer be never? That’s what I thought. When it comes to abortion, if you think life starts at conception good for you. Do not FORCE the rest of us to share your beliefs.
@keyser456
8 ай бұрын
@@ryant5447 Not sure what rock you've been living in but coercion was absolutely used to coerce people into getting these things against their will. Stop lying. Just stop. Look around. You're not fooling anybody.
@victorybelongstojesus6617
29 күн бұрын
Well said. Human being is worthy of our respect whether in the womb or not
@seththegr8497
10 ай бұрын
I wanna see this girl adopt some Of the kids that are in foster homes. Everyone wants to protect a baby until it’s time to take care of them. Give these kids a real chance at life before you decide they have to live through it.
@Carcroven
10 ай бұрын
The difference is-is that all women should be responsible for their bodies! Women are the bearers of life! Humanity is in their hands, just like a super hero-with great power comes great responsibility! Women have the god like power to create life! If they do so, they should follow up on it! If you don’t want a child it is SO EASY to not have one through contraception like IUDs and birth control! If you have a power don’t abuse it like women that have reckless unprotected sex!!
@Cho11y10
10 ай бұрын
True. But people need to think about the consequences of their actions before performing the deed. Play stupid games, win stupid prices!
@jsmarketingllc9641
10 ай бұрын
Why do you assume a child in foster care won't have a good life? There are not just bad stories. Many successful stories come out of foster care as well
@crazyformusik
10 ай бұрын
@@Cho11y10right because a living child is a stupid prize 🤣🤣 people are so stupid. Prolifers like you care more about the pregnant person to SUFFER the consequences of their actions without giving an actual fuck about the child. It's a lie to say y'all care about life but what you care about is trying to feel superior than the person who wishes to abort. And that's why y'all are pro-birth. Not pro-life. You could actually care LESS about the child. You just care for the person and child to live and suffer in unity.
@Carcroven
10 ай бұрын
@@Cho11y10 THIS!! It’s STUPID EASY for a woman to not get pregnant these days! You can get birth control for free!
@weylin32
10 ай бұрын
She changed what they actually said. She claimed they said the blade of grass was worthy but that's not at all what they said. I hate hate hate the dishonesty in these debates.
@domusardet4961
10 ай бұрын
How did it significantly alter the point? Their answers were still affirming that there are hierarchies of value
@wixked72
10 ай бұрын
@@domusardet4961the ending of her response doesn’t seem to be directed at them exactly.
@mitch5944
10 ай бұрын
It's so dumb, just two parties who lack any nuance in their world views arguing illogical solutions lmao.
@kanyeisyesus7092
10 ай бұрын
@@domusardet4961yeah and they agree, they just place fetuses low on that hypothetical scale, this woman’s argument was made entirely in bad faith, it’s a good thing she’s pretty cause she’s anything but smart.
@royaltyshittu4753
10 ай бұрын
SO WHERE IS THE ALTERATION. She literally agreed that it is worth the respect. I hate hate hate when people take things more important than human life
@matthewz3542
Ай бұрын
As a pet owner that loves the puppy I think everything that has life deserves respect ❤
@thrillhouse4784
Ай бұрын
But are you vegan? Puppies taste good in Cambodia
@matthewz3542
Ай бұрын
@@thrillhouse4784 I’m not vegan! But I won’t eat a dog lol
@Sinix946
Ай бұрын
@@thrillhouse4784do they Eat puppies? Why not wait till there grown and get more meat out of the animal?
@BigT2664
Ай бұрын
and value!
@BigT2664
Ай бұрын
My brother once in his missionary work was served puppy dog stew. He knew the puppy... But once he got past that point, the stew was delicious.
@thepeacefullynestedswallow
14 күн бұрын
Honey handled that calmly and with class !! ❤
@iammarauder5418
5 ай бұрын
A woman is also worthy of respect and value
@TheRevengeofThemDawgs
5 ай бұрын
Yes, but she's also carrying another human being. Death in birth is extremely rare these days, so that argument would only hold weight about 1.5% of the time. Killing one human being because there's a 1.5% chance another will die is the dumbest thing I've heard.
@nab1915
5 ай бұрын
@@TheRevengeofThemDawgsyeah and if she doesn’t want to carry that foetus anymore that’s her right.
@TheRevengeofThemDawgs
5 ай бұрын
@@nab1915 That fetus is living breathing being that's as valuable as the Mother. If you don't want a baby, be safe while having sex, because that's not an accident if you intentionally had sex, that's how biology works.
@WW-qk4eh
5 ай бұрын
@@TheRevengeofThemDawgs And if the sex wasn't intentional? ... what then?
@TheRevengeofThemDawgs
5 ай бұрын
@@WW-qk4eh Did the kid have anything to do with it? Why should an innocent child pay for the acts of another?
@chris714s
10 ай бұрын
Nothing but luv for this lady and her ability to deliver the point so coherently
@seradin8029
10 ай бұрын
What do you mean coherent? She didn't even listen to the answers those people were giving her.
@bulletanarchy6447
10 ай бұрын
What was her point? that because a different value system exists for different species it is therefore not ok for us to terminate a pregnancy of a woman that doesn't want to be pregnant.
@stevenbrumit2746
10 ай бұрын
@@seradin8029apparently you didn't hear her, probably because of the fireworks going off in your head
@seradin8029
10 ай бұрын
@@stevenbrumit2746 huh? She made no point.. those people didn't equate a puppy with a blade of grass. She said that and then based her point off of what she made up about those people's responses. That's dumb.
@stevenbrumit2746
10 ай бұрын
@@seradin8029 let me your pro abortion?
@pepetrueno8722
10 ай бұрын
Keeping your calm in an argument is a powerful tool
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