I think what is illogical is my wife taking my ATM card so that I could not purchase some figures I desire
@naturalnatemarvel9594
7 ай бұрын
Nah. Your a SIMP no backbone
@unorthdoxcleric6953
7 ай бұрын
Meh my wife has tried that but I got those Numbers stored in my safe place.
@imoweenlodestone5447
7 ай бұрын
Take it back and say I don't want you buying shoes you don't even wear...the. give her divorce papers
@mozi7987
7 ай бұрын
@@imoweenlodestone5447woah that’s abit far fetched don’t you think 😂
@stephenmaximo4017
7 ай бұрын
Don't you have your own money?
@texasbeast239
7 ай бұрын
Irrational if you can't afford them in terms of money, space, time to enjoy, etc. But it is rational to engage in your pursuit of happiness if you can afford it without neglecting your responsibilities. Happiness is part of mental health.
@AMVH2012
7 ай бұрын
I started laughing at the beginning when you were talking about rational collecting. Just because you rationalize something doesn't make it rational. When I want something that I had as a kid, I am not being rational. My collection of vintage comes from an emotional place. It's the reason why my Transformers are a collection and my dishes are not. I think collecting is never rational because when I look at my collection rationally I think, "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?". I recently tried to sell a vintage loose Optimus Prime. The guy asked me to transform it and send him pictures. I transformed it, sent the pictures, pulled a "the ring is mine", and ghosted the guy trying to buy it which was highly rational.
@JV12382
7 ай бұрын
Lol
@WarillaGorefare
7 ай бұрын
Lmao
@ArionRDAW
7 ай бұрын
You first start out as a fan, you buy a figure, you play with it, pose it and be amazed with the engineering. So you buy another, and another. Eventually you become irrational: buying for the sake of completion, buying even if you don't have the display space for it, buying just because you wanted it and yet when it arrives you open the box merely to check, take a few photos and put it back into the box... sometimes you don't even open the box at all and kept it MISB. You know it's a waste, you know you really need to buy displays and shelves... but somehow your brain manages to convince you "ah but I can spend the money on figures instead..."
@josephmonroy3865
7 ай бұрын
I learned my lesson on the pre-orders when fanstoys reissued springer. I paid $250 only for it to drop to $169 days later. That was it. I was done. No more panicking. If i get it, cool. If i miss out, no problem. Everything ends up coming back around again. I've learned patience. As for the scales, i was too deep into my MP collection to start over with legends. The way legends are looking now, collecting them was probably the right move. Price, size, and esthetics are major factors and legends nails all three.
@unorthdoxcleric6953
7 ай бұрын
Hey what do u mean when u say the way Legends is looking it was prob the right move?
@josephmonroy3865
7 ай бұрын
@unorthdoxcleric6953 meaning had I known they would look as good as they do, I'd have collected them instead.
@yandoeseverything370
7 ай бұрын
I like legends figures like Magic Square but the problem I have with 3rd party Legend scale figures is that hey are too darn expensive for what they are. They are met to be bought in groups or pairs to fill out your shelf and they cost like 60 dollars or more piece
@Getloose360
7 ай бұрын
MP is for display, Hasbro "Chug is for play" . Only buy what resonates with you and doesnt break "your" finances. Find a balance, it works.
@Rangatology
7 ай бұрын
Perfect timing with your video mate. I just went through this myself. As a result I sold off everything I felt was “just collecting” & kept items I viewed as having a meaning/connection to me. I have a lot less as of yesterday BUT what is left are characters I enjoy, they stand out more to me now & space is no longer a thing, haha. I feel as collectors, we need to mentally spring clean our collection every now & then for perspective, nostalgic & dare I say, logical reasons.
@BlackArroToons
7 ай бұрын
Good point about finally seeing the figures look like the animated versions these days in robot and vehicle form. Cool Ewoks collection there.
@shinre
7 ай бұрын
I only think it becomes irrational if you're running low on space and money.
@manuedwards6959
7 ай бұрын
What’s irrational is starting late and getting gouged for the price!!!
@unorthdoxcleric6953
7 ай бұрын
Oh yeah if u miss the fig u wanted its not pretty.
@jsmith1095
7 ай бұрын
agreed
@jtryan77
7 ай бұрын
For me it's a false dichotomy. Collecting is neither rational nor irrational for me because collecting serves to bring me joy and is therefore based on emotion (pathos) and not reason (logos).
@GibDozer1
7 ай бұрын
About 5 years ago I counted up the $ on my MP shelf. I realized then I had more in my toys than my Hotrod lol. I have even more in them now, but if it was between the car and the toys I'd keep them hands down. Still I will never count how much I have in them again... I never used a credit card on a toy. I guess that's my limit lol. In truth my MP collecting is almost done. The characters I'm still missing that I want I'll grab on deep discounts or not at all. It's all irrational/illogical. Do I care? nah. Won't live forever enjoy it while we can.
@jamievaughn1485
7 ай бұрын
My biggest gripe with MP is their scale. Combiners are just so big you really can't pose them and oh boy the space you'll need. It's what drove me to Legends scale since they are often tiny MPs, but their combiners fit nicely on the shelf and can pose really well. I get wanting big bots, but the prices are keeping me out and the space I save with my smaller bots as I can setup nice dios with lots of them makes it all the better. I do have a few MP of my favorite characters, but I won't likely ever get more than that. Bless you that stay in the game though.
@MrPeterson74
7 ай бұрын
I want a MP version of Twin Twist and Topspin.
@unorthdoxcleric6953
7 ай бұрын
When I see something that I really like I just lose my mind and that feeling of I have to have it comes in. I will do pretty much anything to get that thing because I need it and then it goes on the shelf where I sit and look at it picking it up and moving it around then putting it back, then picking it up again. God I love this hobby, next stop Ebay..
@coris3436
7 ай бұрын
Irrational but so what. I love them
@davidpyott3710
7 ай бұрын
If you can sell parts of your collection when the value has skyrocketed then you can make some money I find that very impressive It's not worth upsetting your partner or overspending on toys. Your money is going to a company that doesn't care about you.
@jjsheets330
7 ай бұрын
I personally battle with the buy two of each so I can display it in both modes.
@LukeIngels
7 ай бұрын
I want to do that too, but it seems so frivolous.
@unorthdoxcleric6953
7 ай бұрын
Yeah I bought 8 of one particular figure so I could recreate the Transformation that is shown on the back of the box's, u know from one form to another in like 4-5 photo's.Looks hella cool on display but jeez, I feel like I lost my mind buying 8.
@darwinxavier3516
7 ай бұрын
Collecting for nostalgia isn't rational or irrational. Strong feelings can come from certain experiences including interacting with an object. As for getting things you couldn't before. We are all limited to a finite pool of experiences due to resources and opportunity. And so most of us want what we don't have in an attempt to experience as much as possible before we die. The fact is that we cannot predict the future with any certainty. So if your desire is to possess something, FOMO is inevitable so long as the availability of figures is not guaranteed. It is the gamble of losing out on later sales vs paying the late tax. It is not irrational to have more than one of a character if your goal isn't to have only one representation. If you like the variety of transformations like I do, then the characters being the same is not a problem. Because they are all different figures that happen to resemble the same character. It does get a bit boring sometimes though so I try to pick a recolor I don't have yet whenever a new figure comes out. Knowledge that new versions will come out is a reason that I don't bother getting recolors of a figure I already have. Buying duplicates is only really necessary for people who actually display their armies and need troop builders. Otherwise, one generic stormtrooper is enough to represent the vast army of identical generic stormtroopers. Lets be honest with ourselves. You don't "need" any of these. You WANT or don't want. The only thing to ask is, do you really want this enough, and why. And what is "enough" will factor in things like the cost and budget, space, fulfillment. Specifically why anyone would want a huge Optimus, it's a standalone display piece that commands attention through sheer size. For Metroplex, can you afford it, are you willing to make space, do you like the look. Getting the Haslab Unicron is irrational if your reason was anything other than the size and you happen to like the aesthetic, kibble and all. Because if those were not your reasons, then there was an objectively better alternative at the time. And no, I don't consider mainline brand loyalty to be a valid reason for anything. The non transforming action figures are a matter of taste but pretty pointless unless you just want to make diorama scenes. And even then I don't know if they even have great articulation. There is nothing irrational about getting lifesize models as long as, again, can you afford it, are you willing to make space, do you like the look. Anymore than it is irrational to have topiaries in your yard. Getting characters you don't care about isn't irrational unless your goal is only getting characters you care about. All this talk about whether something is rational or not is completely subjective and dependent upon the person's goals, priorities, and limitations. I will give a not so hot take though that it is irrational to buy for "value" unless you plan to resell it. Yeah I went there.
@happiaxxident
7 ай бұрын
If it makes the collector happi… it’s rationalized.
@freefromsin0567
7 ай бұрын
I collect Micro Legends Minus (copyrighted by me). Basically just micro masters, core class, and a few legends plus a couple normal chug figures. The idea is too scale the main characters down and then make my whole collection much cheaper because I can’t work full time yet because high school. So the voyagers I have act as city bots to save $$
@jsmith1095
7 ай бұрын
I'm a selective collector. I go after core characters or og team members. My main collection is G.I.Joe classified, and even that is from the years 82-87 (the movie). It also depends on the company and the price point. I like Super7, but I don't collect everything. I don't back haslabs when all I care for is the figures (Hiss Tank Driver and Wild Bill). At the end of the day I'm happy with my collection.
@dazbry7612
7 ай бұрын
I have a few MPs, hot rod and soundwave being my most fav. Im happy with what i got, not really looking to getting anymore 👍
@irishscott1
7 ай бұрын
Even my wife thinks they are pieces of art. Most action figures to me look like toys. These look beautiful on the shelf, especially the combiners. I will continue to collect them as long as I can afford them.
@Transformoholic
7 ай бұрын
I totally agree I've sold majority of my collection chug, masterpiece, and legends. The ones I kept or will continue to buy are characters I liked or watched growing up so like victory, beastwars neo, and G1 characters here and there and the cast of the 86 movie and maybe some armada. That is all I collect now I've downsized and have been able to display other things im interested in put up posters of films some books on the shelf for once and my wife loves it I've been getting more bedtime that I used to and I think a majority of it is because the office area is not full of opened and unopened transformers not to mention the budget to do stuff and activities like going out or impulsively getting a certain item you've had your eye on but couldn't get cause most of the extra from the budget is going to transformers. I say just collect what you want or personally connect with I know to some people like myself its an itch to miss out on figures and maybe feel guilty about it even but that is okay at the end of the day if it isn't something you really want and you only buy it because other people won't stop talking or raving about it. This irrationality in the community has to stop lets invest our extra money on the pocket to different things. With that said I just bought Fans Hobby MB-08A and cannot wait to enjoy the figure of a character I always saw and wanted as a kid in Asia. Lets stop buying more figures than our shelf space can handle
@Autocon43
7 ай бұрын
I guess I’m a mix of rational and irrational. I’m trying to collect the Main G1 line, but I am going to have multiple versions of the G1 style devastator. That’s my favorite figure.
@Jayz457
7 ай бұрын
I completed, my master piece collection. I have the trans Scorge. The new. Erosion is not worth it since he is not one of my favorites. I also have over 25 versions of Megatron so I am also on the same boat. I have since moved to Gundam kits and they are smaller and cheaper but building them is very relaxing. I have not stoped since I bought way to many. I still love my karakuri Megatron. MP combiners are to much of a pain but legends are getting to expensive. I think you mentioned it before.
@simonbellmont
7 ай бұрын
So much talk about Lewis resources Metroplex…what about the Like Toys version? Hey get want you want, if you can afford it and it makes you happy. Modesty over excess.
@lareh5501
7 ай бұрын
7:00 did you even mention what you did with the lewin optimus? I'd suggest as an option would be to put a classified snake eyes on his shoulder, as that lewin optimus scales with 1/12th figures. I wonder if the 18inch optimus scales with 3.75-inch figures 🤔. As far as posing snake eyes/optimus prime together goes, there are various comic covers, panels, artwork that one could draw inspiration from. 11:58 the c3po & jawas on the left remind me how I was interested in getting a wall decal for unicron that was as tall as possible, and then could place any scale on shelves in front of it. Companies like fatheads do some transformers characters for ~$30bucks before discounts, but I don't think I've ever seen one for unicron. 15:02 one point I'm surprised you didn't mention was spending hundreds - thousand of dollars on TFs that you knowingly will never transform. I think over half od the bots I've gotten over the years remain in bot mode, if they come out the package that way.
@mechgouki7999
7 ай бұрын
I would consider irrational to be buying a toy, then keeping it in the box forever. Which is what I am doing with my Deathsaurus and Victory Saber. I recognize it is irrational. Still doing it.
@scottmcclary594
7 ай бұрын
I'm mostly an on screen/screen accurate collector if it didn't appear on the show or movie I don't care, dc on the other hand it's on screen/accurate and comic if I like or care about that character, some characters I'll troop build with when it comes to multiples but when it comes to McFarlane I tend to kitbash alot and I at least 2 but when I only get one and it happens every time I but one something breaks for example I baught the closed mouth hush Batman the other day and didn't plan on getting it but after opening it I twisted the head right off breaking the ball joint off and after I fixed it I was looking at my mullet superman and remembered the Batman vs spawn 2 pack Batman and swapped that closed mouth hush Batman head on that for a 90s trinity which is my favorite iteration of the trinity and because I kitbashed a perfect mullet superman I was left without a regular hush superman yet again because I keep robbing his trunks for other supermans and I baught my 5th hush superman today!
@Turbo.RF4
7 ай бұрын
Its irrational even in the beginning, but they have a strong emotional attachment to them that's hard to ignore for those who grew up with these characters. Collecting is always irrational no matter what point of argument you make, but why bother with that when you really wanted it in the first place? People like most of us already deal with alot of BS in general, so spending another BS for a little enjoyment and satisfaction is not irrational in our views.
@optimusdaddy7739
7 ай бұрын
Market is saturated
@markcastellanet9672
7 ай бұрын
I am not innocent of anything here and my next point. The entire basis of collecting masterpiece transformers is irrational. Everything that follows, stems from the initial irrationality. Therefore anything we do with this collection is irrational. That being, it gives me some happiness and is not causing me to be homeless or go without necessities.
@isuckatusernames4297
7 ай бұрын
idk, I only collect CHUG stuff and only really eitheir troop builders or characters I don't have 5 versions off (unless it's a major improvement over the older versions)
@brianpavlina8638
7 ай бұрын
There are several characters I don’t care about that I purchase. I buy them to complete the Season G1 toon cast.
@lboogie3171
7 ай бұрын
LOL this should be a good video after I just spent 2500 this month on MP 😮
@miles501st
7 ай бұрын
It's all irrational 😂 it's just like any form of addiction. You even have a go to dealer to get your fix
@mechgouki7999
7 ай бұрын
What about a 1:1 Boa Hancock statue?
@stoltobot
7 ай бұрын
None of it is rational. You are paying a lot of money for a piece of plastic where you could be buying a productive asset (or food if it is that bad). The thing is whether it brings you happiness or not. I’m starting to get less marginal joy per new purchase, and this became starkly clear when I bought some Lego recently and had a blast building it while many of my new TFs are still sitting in box. The nostalgia factor and the mystery puzzle factor are doing less and less for me these days
@thebigdb1
7 ай бұрын
Well Mike I have to disagree with ya... I actually was looking forward to fans toys swerve when it came out because he was one of the first second wave / retooled transformers that I bought prior to stop collecting toys when I was a kid until I started getting back into collecting when I was in college. I had a lot of nostalgia for the character because of memories, and because of the fact that I was more into the comics that I was the cartoon, I knew more about the character probably than what you did. The thing about the cartoon is I don't think they did a very good job when it came to character development. Especially from the second season on. When the movie came around I think they started doing very poorly when it came to scripting and really representing characters very well on the screen, but in the comments they were very well done. Swerve is kind a con man but with a heart, and he's kind of like the plucky comical relief of the group. Very much like guy from Galaxy quest for like a description. So I actually like the character because of the way he was betrayed in the comic, something that was never done in the cartoon show. That's why I like the comics more than the show because I think they did a better job. So I was looking forward to swerve when he came out because he's actually a nice figure. Regardless of the fact people were complaining that he's Chromed. Kind of wish they did the same treatment to gears because I like the toy look a little more than the cartoon. Think the cartoon had a better face when it came to gears, but I like the Chrome look on the toy more than I do the muted pastel colors of the cartoon. So it depends on the matter of taste.
@misterpreposterous5771
7 ай бұрын
Rational collecting: The kind I practice. Irrational collecting: The things all you guys are wasting money on. Heads up, collecting 'collectables' is inherently irrational, ESPECIALLY if you're collecting toys you had/missed out on as a kid or characters you saw in a cartoon/movie. Let's say that you collect Transformers, but are unable to appreciate off-brand converting figures (or obscure TF characters) 'because they don't speak to you' - that's just proof you're not even doing this for their aesthetic value or because you appreciate complex engineering. You just try to relive part of your childhood when a brand successfully caught attention of your impressionable mind. Everything else is just rationalization.
@MrSampson795
7 ай бұрын
You make spot-on excellent points about collecting. Very good video, I really enjoyed it!
@thebigdb1
7 ай бұрын
I keep saying this, but I think the best thing that these third and fourth parties can do with these ultra big figures like the metroplex in fort Max is actually selling the digital plans for 3D printing then actually producing the figure in a factory. They would make more money that way I think and more people would have access to the design in terms of being able to own it then actually producing it outright in a factory. I think eventually 3D printing is going to be the next step in toy collecting because I think the technology is there, but the chemistry for the plastics and resins are quite there yet, but the concept is pretty much there as is. There are plenty of sites where you can download files for toys that have already been designed where you buy the figure and just print it up on your printer. And I think that would be the best move for these really big transformers because it cuts down on transportation cost production cost, and people just generally get what they want. I think that would be the smartest move for these companies. But that's just me.
@sammyboy6823
7 ай бұрын
I only buy first and second generation of transformers, i dont care much about combiners..to me devastator was the one and only ..
@boxingmmafighter4-life258
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, the irrational collecting is more like a mental illness. these toy companies know that ental illness is in most collectors, and they take advantage of it
@boxingmmafighter4-life258
6 ай бұрын
Why would you say something is irrational yet you do it? Isn’t that called being a hypocrite? I just collect whatever I like. Buying everything is a hoarder and an upstairs illness. Whenever I go and buy everything. It’s only because I wanna make money on it and that’s what I do. Keep the stuff I want to keep. Because the stuff I sell ends up, making me money to where I never paid or where it seems like I never had to pay for any of my collection.
@imoweenlodestone5447
7 ай бұрын
Hell no collecing is not irrational at all. I collect 3rd party transformers, now i can afford updated figures i never owned back in the day, betwixt what transformers toys should look like ect.
@boxingmmafighter4-life258
6 ай бұрын
Super 7 needs to go out of business because they are garbage
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