Thanks much for this show of support for this channel. Much appreciated!
@YEAHSURETHINGMAN
5 ай бұрын
did you just donate $10 dollars to yourself?
@AerialWaviator
6 ай бұрын
While Perseverance seems confused this week; Mars Odyssey the longest continuous operating spacecraft at Mars was launched from on this Earth date 23 years ago (April 7, 2001). It arrived six months later on Oct. 24, 2001. Since Mars Orbit Insertion, Odyssey has completed approximately 90,000 orbits above the planet.
@coralie9469
6 ай бұрын
That is something to celebrate, thanks for sharing!
@Ron4885
6 ай бұрын
Good to know. I'm glad it's doing so well.
@gpetheri
6 ай бұрын
Excellent update, thanks Marsguy Forscale.
@tetsi0815
6 ай бұрын
Underrated comment! 😀
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for that!
@arnelilleseter4755
6 ай бұрын
We all become more careful drivers as we get older.
@modalmixture
6 ай бұрын
This terrain may be well within Perseverance’s abilities, but it’s gotten gnarlier than I imagined.
@rjung_ch
6 ай бұрын
Thanks Mars Guy for another nice one! 👍💪✌
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@-mike-8134
6 ай бұрын
he lost his little buddy and now he is spooked about his own demise... Thanks Mars Guy!
@zealeigh
6 ай бұрын
I can imagine that the wheel-spin-cutoff was to stop it from becoming bogged (safety (with a margin for error) first) and the following short drive was a cautious test to confirm that it wasn't in any danger of becoming immobilized like its counterpart. All speculation though.
@widmo206
6 ай бұрын
By counterpart, do you mean Curiosity?
@johncnorris
6 ай бұрын
I can't wait until JPL unleashes the Dukes of Hazzard mode on Perseverance!
@earthlingjohn
6 ай бұрын
And calling it an engineering test
@bob456fk6
6 ай бұрын
The sand dunes are scary. They lost one rover when it got stuck in a dune. Slow and steady is ok. Just keep on going.
@NorthernChev
6 ай бұрын
Probably the fact he saw Mars guy standing next to him.
@kennethgarland4712
6 ай бұрын
Hasn't anyone considered that Perseverance may be lonely without its little helicopter friend? I know I shall be disoriented with grief when my little 18 year old doggie finally gives up the ghost.
@rjung_ch
6 ай бұрын
18 is a very old age. Am glad that your friend is so old, very seldom indeed.
@coralie9469
6 ай бұрын
Indeed, mine is almost 14-1/2, know the feeling! But maybe Percy is looking for her, how sad is that, lonely indeed, poor Percy!
@ptonpc
6 ай бұрын
Enjoy the time you have with your buddy and be with them at the end. It's never easy saying goodbye.
@kennethgarland4712
6 ай бұрын
I'm truly appreciative of the very kind comments about my dog, but I don't want to divert attention from Mars Guy's excellent videos! I just wanted to make a humorous comment about Perseverance's apparent confusion over where it wanted to go. Pippa, despite her age (and I've heard of Jack Russells going on to 21) is still very alert and interested in going out, although her arthritis, cataracts and lack of teeth mean that our walks have been greatly shortened and made less adventurous.
@coralie9469
6 ай бұрын
@@kennethgarland4712 We surely appreciate your humor and are obviously dog owners/lovers, but heavens no, do not want to take away from Mr Mars brilliant and humorous videos, they're always great! Thanks for sharing!! Appreciate it!
@feelincrispy7053
6 ай бұрын
Perseverance doing burnouts on mars is hilarious
@yl0000
6 ай бұрын
Maybe losing its buddy made it more timid.
@khublaklonk4480
6 ай бұрын
"Without his lifelong friend, Puff could not be brave..."
@raybeauvais296
6 ай бұрын
I wonder if it is mistaking those far off hill tops for much closer impassable terrain? Perseverance,, after all, doesn't have Mars Guy for scale.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Ha ha!
@eustacequinlank7418
6 ай бұрын
Google. "Motion camouflage induced by zebra stripes" an interesting paper. I looked it up after seeing Attenborough's Life in Colour It made me think of why certain flies may avoid or be confused by striped flat surfaces. I'm a photographer only, but I personally think that it confuses depth perception or at least a 'dazzling effect' with the horizontal lines of certain dunes. It happens with humans also. It perhaps has a similar problem... not an emotional one : )
@jpaulc441
6 ай бұрын
What's going on with Curiosity? It's still at Gale crater doing its thing but we don't really hear much of it.
@_John_P
6 ай бұрын
Mars Guy only covers Perseverance due to time constraints. Curiosity is covered on Elder Fox Documentaries, iGadgetPro and NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory, although neither publish as often as they used to.
@mrsupremegascon
6 ай бұрын
@@_John_P thanks a lot for those recommandations
@drguenther
6 ай бұрын
While Perseverance is facing challenges with the terrain, Curiosity has excelled in climbing to Upper Gediz Vallis, uncovering fascinating discoveries about the icy past of Gale Crater. It would be great if Mars Guy, with his profound geological expertise, could create a summary video discussing what NASA and JPL have learned about the fluvial or glacial history of Mount Sharp and Gediz Vallis.
@siberx4
6 ай бұрын
It's so interesting watching this rover's progress and, as incredible as it is, knowing that a human could walk across all of this terrain without a second thought. We get a huge amount of science for the invested resources out of these rover missions (because they're low-mass and don't require life support), but the pace must be so painful for the researchers and operators thinking "if I was just there in person, I could have that rock sampled in a few minutes and I'd be on to the next target!"
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
So true...
@kensmith5694
6 ай бұрын
It may be partly incorrect to say it can't have fear. Fear is a thing that motivates us to not do dumb things. In its code, there likely is somewhere a number that could be called its level of fear of the path it didn't take.
@mikegofton1
6 ай бұрын
I do look forward to updates - thanks Mars guy.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Glad you do, thanks.
@realspacemodels
6 ай бұрын
Given what happened to Spirit, one would think that getting stuck in the dunes would be a no-no in the drive program. I'm sure that driving over firmer ground would make the software more confident.
@ptonpc
6 ай бұрын
Admit it. Oppy has come back to life and is stalking Perseverance....
@garyknight8616
6 ай бұрын
Great update, as always. Keeping fingers crossed that nothing nasty (engineering-wise) is going on.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, same here.
@footballct14
6 ай бұрын
those little robots parking themselves on campus is so cute!
@-Thauma-
6 ай бұрын
Yes 😊
@hawkdsl
6 ай бұрын
Wont be so cute when they weaponize it, and it's banging on your front door.
@earthlingjohn
6 ай бұрын
@@hawkdsl Bringing to you your final meal
@FredPlanatia
6 ай бұрын
@@hawkdsl what if its bringing you water when you are in an earthquake?
@kyjo72682
6 ай бұрын
Yes, motorized traffic on the sidewalks.. obstructing pedestrians.. exactly what everybody needs. :)
@Sheaker
6 ай бұрын
Thank You Mars Guy! To me they are look a little bit hazardous. With some support from Earth it should manage to go over those boulders safely.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm sure it can be a tough call for the autonomous system sometimes.
@timward2001
6 ай бұрын
I wasn't impressed by that car "safely navigating" a cycle lane in a way that would be illegal in the UK.
@randalllewis4485
6 ай бұрын
Illegal in the US too, but I doubt it is ever enforced.
@timward2001
6 ай бұрын
@@randalllewis4485 Depends how much notice the local police take of footage from helmet cams. In the UK some do, some don't.
@jonathanamundsen6086
6 ай бұрын
Seeing those wheel tracks and the navigation struggles has me wondering what we will need if we send bigger, heavier, and faster rovers in just the next few years.
@copperNick-North
6 ай бұрын
Everything that is bigger and heavier must know that "it is going to get into an elevator with a limited capacity and weight". 🚀
@apriladams7119
6 ай бұрын
Coffee and a Mars Guy update. Best way to spend a few moments on Sunday. Maybe Perseverance is dealing with several "issues" at once and is making the best decision it can given its programming? Can the programmers here on Earth get into Percy's "head" and read its mind to understand why Percy is doing what it's doing?
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm sure the rover drivers have a good idea of what's going wrong.
@jamesrussell7760
6 ай бұрын
Harking back to the terrain covered by Perseverance early on, my impression is that the number of rocks per square meter is now significantly higher. Also, the one meter drive you mentioned ended with a sand dune that Persey backed away from. Persey's apparent "timidity" may be a reflection of it's conservative programming. Possible?
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
The density of rocks has varied over the course of the mission. The current location is indeed pretty dense.
@slabrankle9588
6 ай бұрын
In an alternate reality of which we know nothing, NASA is building Mars rovers that look and function not like cars but like ants, the perfect form for crawling over anything without getting stuck.
@Skeeter2024
6 ай бұрын
NOBODY….wants to be responsible for getting Perseverance stuck forever.Too many people will know who it was and would require them to retire for the purpose of “spending more time with their family”.
@johngaither9263
4 ай бұрын
They'll blame it on Wolowitz.
@clavo3352
6 ай бұрын
Nice thought provoking video. It gives Perseverance some depth to its personality hinting name. Onward Percy. Go rock romping !!
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks, glad you appreciate this content.
@hugolandheer7008
6 ай бұрын
It knows what sanddunes can do to a rover.....
@Gkitchens1
5 ай бұрын
The Martian trying to hack into it is starting to make some headways good job lil buddy’!’
@RickBevi-w4w
6 ай бұрын
MG maybe the rover wants to go back and pick up are little friend fantastic pictures your channel is awesome great work thanks
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the encouraging comment!
@Fredrikaolsen
6 ай бұрын
Great video as always!
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Valery0p5
6 ай бұрын
I hope the next generation of autonomous rovers flies soon... The stuff I saw at the ARCHES Demo mission on top of mount Etna was crazy
@Iowa599
6 ай бұрын
How well does a campus rover work if someone is sitting on it?
@nicksavage4763
6 ай бұрын
TO THE TOP 🔝‼️
@jameswingert9596
6 ай бұрын
Unresolved grief for Ingenuity. It just needs to talk. Maybe Curiosity could find some time, be a little more supportive.
@AdamIsaacs1
6 ай бұрын
would love a single overview video of curiosity thrown in, maybe on a low-action week for perseverance. just a thought, love the content 😃
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment and suggestion. You're not the first suggesting a Curiosity episode, so it's a possibility.
@copperNick-North
6 ай бұрын
I have imagined a series of "in situ paving" tests; passing some wheels over the flattened ruts left by the ones in front could give results, although there is also the risk that, on ground removed by the second ones, the third ones will slip. It has also seemed to me, at times, that "they can practice with different textures" of stones that are crushed and can serve as cement or binder or provide a more compacted terrain.
@-Thauma-
6 ай бұрын
Thank you Mr. Mars 😘
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
You are very welcome
@OHFORPEATSAKES
6 ай бұрын
If I had to drive over that, I'd be spooked too.
@Jack-ne8vm
6 ай бұрын
It's lonely now.
@copperNick-North
6 ай бұрын
Sol 1116 of Perseverance on Mars: Sol 1114 passed when the rover was about 365 meters from the helicopter, the closest point of approach (CPA) since Ingenuity "lost its wings", it's likely that other photos with more detail have been taken which give better clues about the 71 and 72 flights. In any case, I don't think that there will be any closer approach in next sols.
@nutter85
6 ай бұрын
In the beginning it almost got stuck in soft sand, after that it was programed to be more sensitive to that kind of terrain
@copperNick-North
6 ай бұрын
Having six-wheel drive the problem is reduced, but some kind of skis (like the peculiar Soviet Mars 3 prop-M rover), paddles or articulated car jack could provide some redundancy to get out of a tight situation. 😧
@akalaification
5 ай бұрын
Lol, the waymo drove past my old bartending gig at 5th and University.
@LuckyLuke3331
6 ай бұрын
Nice! Thanks! It's not the first time that our rover is struggling to navigate. Humans on Mars can help Perseverance ... but not now :) For when a "Mars Guy" on a real picture near Persy? and not only "for scale" :)
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
I look forward to that day!
@scottthomas3792
6 ай бұрын
I would rather see it " spooked" than stuck in sand. Somebody, somewhere, is being careful, and that's a good thing. Those six wheeled " pizzabots" are very common on the campus I work near. I watched one successfully negotiate an intersection crowded with students and cars...not an easy job.
@iggyzorro2406
6 ай бұрын
interesting observations - maybe something's up with the wheels or their sensors
@jonkersvideos
6 ай бұрын
Why all these boulders anyway? Where do they come from? How are they formed?
@copperNick-North
6 ай бұрын
River floods carry materials from the bottom and sides, causing entire sections of cliffs to fall, crumbling and rolling.
@copperNick-North
6 ай бұрын
I don't have Percy's autonomous driving algorithm in my head, but I try to orient myself between the stones and the sand by numbering them "like sonobuoys." In the photos of these last sols I have numbered at different distances but since it is an uphill terrain that in turn presents sand drifts filled with stones, I have had the problem of "having to interpolate in the valleys" stones that I had not seen before.
@copperNick-North
6 ай бұрын
Could it be the case that Percy's brain full of circuits "appears stones in the middle", where he had not registered them before because he was behind a small nearby sand drift?
@Crftbt
6 ай бұрын
Are those rover videos both from Arizona (I saw the Mill Ave sign)?
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Yes
@CandyGirl44
6 ай бұрын
Riveting footage! How are the first Mars pioneers going to overcome the sand/dust problem? Or is SpaceX not getting there before I die?
@jimmyz9786
6 ай бұрын
Wheel spin scared it....has learned the fate of stuck rovers......
@JZsBFF
6 ай бұрын
Let's finally face it now. The Ghosts Of Mars were there well before Percy arrived. Ask Rock Hudson. Perhaps those were thinking: "Don't thread on me or bear the consequences." and that's what finally happening?
@robertedlund6357
6 ай бұрын
Nice one. Do you think the rover documents every move it makes so the control room can look at vid and investigate like, spinning wheels?
@_John_P
6 ай бұрын
Due to bandwidth restrictions, the rovers can only take a small number of snapshots along the way, using the low resolution L/R navigation cameras and F/R hazard avoidance cameras. The result is a sequence of images that can be put together to make a video, but it is quite choppy, unless the frames are interpolated using novel AI techniques. There's an example here - Rover POV: Five Years of Curiosity Driving on Mars.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks
@GT_Void
5 ай бұрын
Yes, because it just realized that it has been on earth all along.
@TheQueensWish
5 ай бұрын
It doesn’t want to leave Ginny behind.
@paul9120
5 ай бұрын
Maybe the struggle was just a dispute on Devon Island about land rights.
@copperNick-North
6 ай бұрын
It could be the stone that Mars Guy was aiming for. Perhaps climbing the front wheel on the right side over a more or less high rock could move it to the left side where it would be trapped, pinned, by another rock, outside the wheels on that left side. -] 🚘[-
@willsherman1049
6 ай бұрын
Or, maybe it knows something we don't?
@kdeuler
6 ай бұрын
The lower gravity probably reduces traction a lot on loose soil.
@ziggeman
6 ай бұрын
maybe the rover has learned that sand is dangerous to drive through and struggles to find a route
@sammyhooligan803
5 ай бұрын
Well, who's driving it? Or is it programmed to navigate? Maybe the landscape was too dangerous to go over, Bottom out on a giant Rock and that would make it more difficult to even return to level terrain.
@executivesteps
6 ай бұрын
Looks like dangerous terrain to me??? I’d back out too.
@themetalslayer2260
6 ай бұрын
can you display a little point to show ingenuity position on maps? when it's possible, of course
@copperNick-North
6 ай бұрын
Mars 2020 Mission blog. "Where Is Perseverance ?" section. North of Perseverance now.
@bubblesezblonde
6 ай бұрын
Well done thanks
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thank you too
@motoflyte
6 ай бұрын
rough terrain ahead
@copperNick-North
6 ай бұрын
and on the slope !!
@copperNick-North
6 ай бұрын
Perhaps a robotic arm with a shoehorn at the front or aft of the vehicle could help get us out of a tight spot. ✌
@tg4941
6 ай бұрын
Why do i always think of Wall-E sitting alone. 😢
@johncrisp9202
Ай бұрын
The bot SCARED by "SOMETHING"?? Yeah well, ... that's seriously CREEPY!!😮😅
@killeresk
5 ай бұрын
Seems like it thinks the sand is too deep. Maybe some thresholds were lowered.
@sandybottom6623
6 ай бұрын
It's getting bogged down in sand. Then it would be up against the rocks. Meanwhile running out of power.
@kyleriv
6 ай бұрын
Ahh, the MU. Still there after all these years.
@quantumcat7673
6 ай бұрын
It's probably a tantrum from the advanced AI on board.
@a787fxr
6 ай бұрын
Call the Moab Utah 4X4 guys and the NASA folks. Next time bring a tow rope and a bigger set of tires.
@ericfielding2540
6 ай бұрын
Tow rope is not too useful on Mars when the nearest vehicle is a thousand miles away.
@copperNick-North
6 ай бұрын
Climb sideways up a steep slope. Or, better, climb so that none of your rolls leave loose or disturbed ground for the wheel that "comes behind." Do Perseverance wheels have this capability?. 👣👣👣
@copperNick-North
6 ай бұрын
I suppose not because of the placement of the cameras. I don't remember if the Hazard and/or navigation cameras could rotate to take images from the side or at a certain angle with respect to Perseverance's longitudinal axis. I don't think so. I'll look for it.
@copperNick-North
6 ай бұрын
The front and rear wheels can be turned to climb sideways but the center wheels don't seem to be able to turn. I think boogie can make them go up or down. Perseverance has a central structure on top of the box that looks like a vertical axis that could give the boogie a certain angle to the sides (like the trunnion and arms of a ship's rudder stock). Regarding the navigation cameras (Navcams), Percy has 2 at the lower ends of the box at the top of the mast, separated about 42 centimeters and they could be used to advance sideways, but not the Hazard avoidance cameras ( Hazcams ) in front and behind which, it seems to me, would not serve to advance sideways.
@markpfeifer1402
6 ай бұрын
Bad wheel sensor?
@chrisantoniou4366
4 ай бұрын
Could it be that wear and tear of the tyres is contributing to the wheelspin? Or has NASA uploaded more conservative self drive software we don't know about?
@dissaid
6 ай бұрын
👽👽👽
@atlassadsad7422
6 ай бұрын
Mars guy lives in PHX??
@pixelchi
6 ай бұрын
Maybe Perseverance needs new snow tires or equivalent "sand tires". Like anyone once stuck in a mudhole or snowdrift, experience learned results in overly cautious future behavior. Perserverance has lost its gravitas and its driving program needs rebooted with new instructions.
@TopDedCenter1
6 ай бұрын
Those NASA boys have never done a full send while navigating a bog in a four wheeler and it shows, lol
@Rmm1722
6 ай бұрын
Yeah 😅
@jarvisa12345
6 ай бұрын
3:43 “Perseverance has a computer brain that's incapable of fear.” Even insects have a fear response that is essentially to avoid what they perceive as a threat without understanding the nature of the danger. Isn't this what Perseverance is doing?
@rolandburisch9489
6 ай бұрын
I very much doubt it. Fear is an emotion; computers do not have emotions. Triggers, obstacle avoidance, image recognition, etc, are not 'perceived' as emotions but simply physical stimuli that cause the computer to respond in one way or another. AI, on the other hand, may possibly have something akin to emotions, but I still doubt they would be capable of the sort of emotions humans experience. I guess what I mean is that machines don't have a 'spirit' or whatever you want to call it. They are not 'alive' in the animal/human sense.
@jarvisa12345
6 ай бұрын
@@rolandburisch9489 My point was that an emotion is simply a physical response to an external stimulus. It does not require intelligence for a cockroach to scuttle when a light comes on or for a person to evacuate their bowel when attacked by a lion.
@Hattusa
6 ай бұрын
Mars is haunted.
@wordreet
6 ай бұрын
Donuts in the car park eh??!!! The cops'll be there soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@stonehengemaca
5 ай бұрын
"As if it was scared by something it saw..." 🙄🙄
@mzeewakazi
6 ай бұрын
The Martians have hacked it. 👽
@rickharold7884
6 ай бұрын
Hmm. Tough for engineers. Esp w time delay to address. Slow but sure it will make it
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
True
@pat8988
6 ай бұрын
NASA needs to consult some Utah rock crawlers before they design the next rover. This would be kindergarten stuff for them.
@markusrobinson3858
5 ай бұрын
Yeah well... this time, just calling it "spooked" is just a little too much anthropomorphism. The fact is, it's running a computer program with a whole set of boundary conditions. Those were created by humans, on earth, in laboratory conditions (even when taken outside). The reality of Mars is demonstrating that those software boundary conditions appear to be a little too conservative in the current conditions. No doubt an upload of new parameters will get Perseverence humming along nicely soon enough...
@leonkruger4333
6 ай бұрын
If I were Perseverance driving away even further from my lost companion, I would not have the best judgment either. Of course she can’t judge, she is just a machine after all…nevertheless.
@choochoochooseyou
5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 they're on Devon Island.
@blarbysliggelberry3896
6 ай бұрын
did an ai routine get entered into the drive software? it is a test platform. maybe ai v1.0 had its first taste of mars.
@dwindew
6 ай бұрын
Hey Mars Guy, question. Since elevations are measured against the sea level on earth and there isn't any sea on Mars, how do we know how tall ANYTHING is on Mars?
@earthlingjohn
6 ай бұрын
The very same question I asked JPL when Spirit and Opportunity landed on Mars ... ''How is elevation zero determined?
@dwindew
6 ай бұрын
@@earthlingjohn did you ever get an answer from JPL?
@earthlingjohn
6 ай бұрын
@@dwindew Back then all I had was a land-line telephone (only internet access was at the library) so as I was watching a rover update press conference I called JPL public affairs and asked if they could relay my question to someone on the panel ... the event ended without my question being asked
@dwindew
6 ай бұрын
@@earthlingjohn well that seems odd! Hope Mars Guy will give us an answer!
@earthlingjohn
6 ай бұрын
@@dwindew To give them the benefit of doubt I was calling fairly well into the event...might have had a better chance if I had called at the beginning
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