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“i smoked your weed” “youre seething” truly the most highly respected debate of all time
@shannond1511
7 ай бұрын
I feel like respectable would prob be a better descriptor but yeah, it seems like this is how everyone seems to “debate” anymore
@Tbeezy874
Жыл бұрын
I really watched this whole thing and my main takeaway is “I’m glad I go outside regularly”
@sumrandomdeer6516
11 ай бұрын
i spent way to long watching this drama that i have no care abt 😭
@cyborexz
8 ай бұрын
Literally,it’s hard to believe people really care this much about shit online
@ireworks2007
8 ай бұрын
i havent even watched this i just wanted to see if i could find a few comments from rational minded people down here
@mysteriousfigures
8 ай бұрын
I stg I was just thinking the same thing
@Timbo360
8 ай бұрын
@@mysteriousfiguresit’s funny he convinced Moth that the DMCA was not legally binding or correct, when you can just look up defamation and dmca and get the actual answer.
@Turtle9815
Жыл бұрын
Both these guys are insufferable for different reasons
@jmudddy2446
Жыл бұрын
Good assessment
@bad_news2303
Жыл бұрын
For real 😂
@Adjudicus
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. The moral one upping is pathetic
@kindapoopedmypants
Жыл бұрын
They're both childish asf. When this first started, moth started using their kid with diabetes??, gender identity, and lack of money for sympathy. It was so fucking annoying. Then TCR started acting obsessed, they both started hurling random accusations at each other with no proof. So gay.
@randyb.9143
Жыл бұрын
nuh uh, I have mutual friends with one of them so I have it on good authority to say the one I personally like more is *not* insufferable
@Iruparazzo
Жыл бұрын
My biggest problem with Plagued Moth is his complete inability to learn how to balance audio, I can't hear shit on his videos
@ilovetriangles704
Жыл бұрын
Right 😂 the intro will make my ears bleed then I can’t hear a word he says
@krubs3885
Жыл бұрын
Based
@TheArcticFoxxo
Жыл бұрын
My biggest problem is that he doesn't post the intro and outro music
@dark69mage
8 ай бұрын
DUDE YES
@TheTiredTortoise
3 ай бұрын
It's one click to normalize audio!
@WildDog7771
Жыл бұрын
Hearing Tom release that big sigh while these two were bickering like a couple siblings was hilarious! I definitely felt that! Tom you’re a trooper for moderating this
@maddymooo
Жыл бұрын
Tom is the exhausted dad. Lol
@hentaimaster6121
Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe these men in their 30s needed a kid like Tom to solve their online man child problems with each other embarrassing as hell on both sides
@amethystrose2671
Жыл бұрын
@@hentaimaster6121Tom had the patience of a saint in this scenario
@michaelmiecek5000
Жыл бұрын
I came to the comments after that happened then instantly saw this, I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought it lmao
@ninaniles3184
Жыл бұрын
@@hentaimaster6121hold up… these people are in their thirties? I could swear they were more like 23 or maybe 24 But people in their thirties that can’t articulate a civil debate? Especially when they know millions could possibly be witness to the “debate”
@kimjongoofGetThemAll
Жыл бұрын
Plagued isn’t fully innocent but that creepy reading was a complete sperg when it came to his points
@moezfoez
Жыл бұрын
Real
@HarryToeface
Жыл бұрын
Dude right?!?! He was so obnoxious! And he refused to answer any questions directed at him AND couldn't provide REAL evidence.
@pepinyostep3592
Жыл бұрын
MERTALATED
@MollyMargolisBillCipherIsBae
Жыл бұрын
Yeah like, I used to watch moth bc I was curious about shock videos on the internet and was too afraid to actually watch it. I understand the reasons he’s being criticized. He shouldn’t have put the videos on his patreon.
@uastyrdzhii
Жыл бұрын
He's a sperg dude
@herecomeskefka5611
Жыл бұрын
Moth just came off like sort of a weirdo But TCR was so insufferably cringe I stopped watching
@flats2774
Жыл бұрын
“What do you mean bro!” “Is this an interrogation?” “Literally…” “I’m gonna mute you.” I can’t take someone who talks like this seriously. It just screams, “I don’t have a concrete argument to back my claim, so I’ll just tip toe around my point and try to cause the person I’m arguing with seem bad.” I’m not saying Moth is innocent, but it’s really easy to make someone like him look bad due to the nature of his content. But god TCR is just a total deflecting pussyfoot.
@elijahanderson7353
Жыл бұрын
That is a good way of describing it, Moth is weird and he has done some real cringe and exploitive stuff but seems to be changing for the better? But TCR was really cringe 😬 like it was hard to sit through
@DontSlamCoke
Жыл бұрын
Called him retarded 😂😂😂
@toolatetothestory
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Neither came off as the winner, but TCR was definitely the bigger loser
@DodongoManoof
Жыл бұрын
Who is tcr
@cirnofumo7353
Жыл бұрын
Plague clearly knows what he actually did was wrong, and his content now is no different from murder documentaries, TCR really messed up coming in without any script or doc because as it stands, it looks like the only thing Plague was guilty of is the patreon stuff, which he has already stopped doing and understands that he was wrong to do it.
@SavoxYT
Жыл бұрын
Well, and the false DMCA claims. That's fraud.
@dark69mage
8 ай бұрын
this comment
@e4tyoual1ve
7 ай бұрын
Oh this aged like milk. Moth did not understand that he was wrong, and he has now started selling his gore reaction videos on discord, without checking if they were minors or not.
@dg0sse
Жыл бұрын
57:39 Tom- "sit your white ass down" Moth-"Yes daddy" That lil joke/break in all the bullshit actually cracked me up.
@DethklokMinion
Жыл бұрын
PM is gender fluid so probably bi
@weasellylittleliardude
Жыл бұрын
That was the best part of the video haha
@lainistyping
Жыл бұрын
As someone who was subscribed to both, the conclusion ive come to after watching this drama for the past few months is they should just both get offline and stick to normie office jobs. This is terminally online behavior. As someome autistic with c-ptsd, I think they'd both benefit from being in a regimented office setting. For the sake of their mental health and ability to provide for their families.
@dud324
Жыл бұрын
just a job in general they both aren't cut out for online content creation they care too much about what other people think of them.
@hovesssharedspace8490
Жыл бұрын
I don't see how they'd fare water cooler talk type drama any better, with it being so much more real than online drama
@hereinmyroom
Жыл бұрын
@@dud324and it’s funny because moth’s entire thing is not caring
@godwarrior3403
Жыл бұрын
This is actually a sick burn haha
@Signal_in_the_noise
Жыл бұрын
Absolute facts. Exactly what I was saying to myself. They both need to go touch grass because this is just embarrassing.
@SuperKidamnesiac
Жыл бұрын
I don't know much about either of these creators, but TCR's showing here was really pathetic. It's possible that Plagued Moth did the things that he's alleged of doing, but refusing to talk to him directly, muting him while continuing to just spew claims of deletion and then crying about not being able to finish your thoughts when you finally do unmute him is not painting your side in a positive light at all.
@ValleyMansonOfficial
Жыл бұрын
As someone with autism, I'm sick of TCR playing the "autism card" tbh. Does he not realize that he could cause harm to moth's kids? 💀
@Siaman668
Жыл бұрын
To be fair I probably would’ve just muted the guy as well just for him constantly adding a question to another question. I get that it seems weak, but if the other party isn’t allowing you to speak what else can you do.
@jojobizadTRASH
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, from what I've gathered, he legit is bad at doing in-person talks or debates, hence why all of his stuff is scripted. This was confirmed by TCR in a stream if you watched LazyBedhead's video on exposing Plaguemoth months ago, so I have no clue why he's in these streams if he's going to make an idiot out of himself. His stream appearances have always guaranteed to make him look bad for whatever reason
@theepicduck6922
Жыл бұрын
TCR is a pretty clear autistic but in a similar way to how plagued moth is annoying due to using his identity as a shield the autism card gets tiring. Both can be truth TCR is a turbo autist and Plagued can be pretty scevey.
@mynameisntpatrick1476
Жыл бұрын
Moth does ride him pretty hard and its frustrating. TCR comes on spur of the moment Moth does that thing people do where they pretend a group discord call is a speed trial.
@thegrimlooper
Жыл бұрын
Are we going to pretend like it’s impossible for someone to do a good thing, while still being a bad person?
@Based_Gigachad_001
Жыл бұрын
When plagued moth talks about animal or child abuse he takes it very seriously. He puts content warnings on his stuff because the stuff he covers is heavy and obviously isn't for everyone.
@Ginkrepeerc_
Жыл бұрын
@@Based_Gigachad_001That’s not people’s issues, he exploits it
@Based_Gigachad_001
Жыл бұрын
@@Ginkrepeerc_ How does he exploit it? Him doing videos doesn't change the fact that stuff like this happens in the real world and will always happen. Bringing attention to the victims and making sure their suffering isn't forgotten is important.
@Based_Gigachad_001
Жыл бұрын
@Autism3Tragedy I don't see how that is exploiting a tragedy. It's not like he's giving people tickets to go see a place where people brutally died.
@LeeferWeefer
Жыл бұрын
@Autism3TragedySo is everyone who covers true crime stuff like murder and child abuse also a exploiter? Cause from that comment it seems like it.
@jaffajack101
Жыл бұрын
This live was just too funny. Two man babies both throwing a hissy fit with nothing much to actually say, brilliant content
@flambo6554
Жыл бұрын
I agree completely, was incredibly silly
@shroomii3414
Жыл бұрын
@@AusmaSarutobi2009AMVgym bros will take any opportunity to tell you they're a gym bro😂 good dhit tho man keep the self care up
@NickyBlue99
Жыл бұрын
@@AusmaSarutobi2009AMVGet them gains bro 💪 I'm gonna go lift and use the annoyance these soyboys give me to get in some extra time.
@CrunchECrab52
Жыл бұрын
@@AusmaSarutobi2009AMVlife before death
@HarryToeface
Жыл бұрын
TCR was far more obnoxious. Plagued moth is way more objective in this conversation
@AdamOwenBrowning
Жыл бұрын
Tom handled this really well, managed to balance antagonization with neutrality and got him to cough a bit. "I abused the DMCA system 'cos it's quicker and cheaper" lol....
@theepicduck6922
Жыл бұрын
Yep
@half-death8095
Жыл бұрын
The dude literally just took a nap, what a legend
@MastemaJack
Жыл бұрын
Tom is probably the worst moderator I've seen. Second worst now that I thought about it while typing.
@xandergonzo4853
Жыл бұрын
I think he cut moth WAY TOO MUCH SLACK. Seriously he let him talk over the aspie dude, I'm sure that fucked him up
@TinyBoxBin
Жыл бұрын
@@MastemaJack he did this bc no good mod would wanna do this crap cmon man
@DaiSenshiMounir
Жыл бұрын
i die laughing every time tom sighs ive been doing chores but i can imagine his straight face looking at his webcam with that "kill me" expression
@Just_a_buck
Жыл бұрын
TCR is so obsessed with plagued moth the same way turkey tom was obsessed with InternetAjay that it’s actually so adorable
@fedpostah
Жыл бұрын
but Tom only has one video about gradeA?
@fedpostah
Жыл бұрын
@@Just_a_buck I didn't know that, thanks for explaining
@Wowlivecow
Жыл бұрын
lol tf
@raaaaaaaaaam496
Жыл бұрын
Pyro cynical would be a way better comparison
@theendisthebeginningistheend
Жыл бұрын
Nah, PM's obsessed.
@CrockoRocko404
Жыл бұрын
I'm assuming the chat was censored cause of how many times plagued moth was getting doxxed
@ValleyMansonOfficial
Жыл бұрын
TCR's mom story 🤮
@lindyloohoo
Жыл бұрын
:( why do people hate him?
@michaelhernandez7978
Жыл бұрын
@@lindyloohoobecause he and his gf are white trash, he's an e-beggar, and he uploads videos of people's last moments for money..?
@meeeeeegan3172
Жыл бұрын
@@lindyloohoodude’s a bit of a freak
@goddammitalana
Жыл бұрын
that's the plagued moth talking to Tom not tcr. Plagued moth is an absolute degenerate
@prettyhatemachinexoxo
Жыл бұрын
Watching this live was crazy, I was a fan of both but now i think Plagued Moth is a edgylord and TCR is annoying as hell.
@prettyhatemachinexoxo
Жыл бұрын
TCR bringing up that autism card is so annoying and he has so many dick riders, of course Plagued Moth isn't the best either but being up ur autism is enough for me to think your are way more annoying. Also thank you Tom for this!
@uastyrdzhii
Жыл бұрын
He's literally a sperg, I just ignore him, he's no much better than moth
@prettyhatemachinexoxo
Жыл бұрын
@@D1sappo1ntmentPandaRight LMAO, I was in a edgelord era when I liked moth, and with TCR I just liked some of his videos.
@darthmader057mmm6
Жыл бұрын
nice reno pfp
@STOPSYPHER
Жыл бұрын
I found Moth’s channel a few years back when I was in the psych ward. Even then I understood that he was a bit out of touch/edgelord-y.
@itsyahboipapi942
Жыл бұрын
Poor Tom he asked so nicely not to yell and they get to hollering 😭😭
@TheFakeGooberGoblin
Жыл бұрын
18:30 “I sell my content that includes uncensored gore, but to say i sell gore is disingenuous” “i sold you a hotdog with fentanyl but to say i’m a dealer is disingenuous”
@theendisthebeginningistheend
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@MonkeMan2.0
Жыл бұрын
I love the comparison of that to a hot dog & fentanyl As I’m now writing this, you made me hungry, thanks (in a good way, I’m actually hungry fr)
@mellofvck_
Жыл бұрын
He wasn't really though, the videos he showed were like literally on youtube and reddit like pretty well known videos people used to send everywhere for shock value and bullying. People are saying he paywalled it but it's just not true, I don't understand why people can't just call him edgy and take the L tbh.
@niclasneziru1854
Жыл бұрын
@@mellofvck_Do you not see that the issue isn't the fact that he paywalled gore but the fact that his entire internet presence and profit is made off videos of literal murder and torture?
@niclasneziru1854
Жыл бұрын
@@mellofvck_ Did you really try to compare making documentaries on lolcows with directly profiting from recorded narco massacres? There's a massive difference between documenting the lives of degenerates and immoral individuals and profiting from making full ass videos describing said atrocities with granular detail in the most soulless and pornographic way possible That's like comparing a reputable case study on a serial killer to making videos describing how he took the lives of his victims in some creepy gore-smut fashion whilst making tasteless jokes and addressing the information as if it was some kind of fun internet fact rather than murder/abuse/whatever happened which is what comprises all of Plague's content But then again, It's not like I care, both TCR and Moth are idiots, Moth just happens to be the bigger creep
@The_Broddha
Жыл бұрын
Whether Plagued Moth did or didnt commit allegations, TCR was real insufferable with his stream. PM's content is shallow, as opposed to someone Ive been enjoying more content of like Disturbed Reality who provides some history to the videos that helps establish further context. At that, he doesnt live react to the video with it being blurred and instead has a script of sorts to provide enough of a mental image with the emphasis to not directly engage with gore vids
@maddymooo
Жыл бұрын
TCR chose the worst way possible to bring up these allegations. He should have scripted and kept his composure. Going in blind wrecks him. I watched part of the stream and was extremely confused.
@Div1ne_1
Жыл бұрын
Personally I think a "scripted mental image" is worse than a reaction I can relate to a reaction, and it's not like Moth is giggling & taking enjoyment from it, almost every reaction from him I've seen has been relatable
@Jackalope9505
Жыл бұрын
Yes, love DR
@PlatonicRenegade-pq5pm
Жыл бұрын
But pm literally does go through the history of the video , where it came from and who are the people in the video? Like the TikTok girl beheading for example
@cursedfetus8129
Жыл бұрын
@@PlatonicRenegade-pq5pmyet he doesn’t discuss the impacts of these actions on society/the world, what it teaches others, how to protect your children from gore, etc. Names mean nothing.
@TurtleChad1
Жыл бұрын
I used to watch Plagued Moth to fuel my morbid curiosity, but I realized he just became a generic edgy self centered guy with no moral code, profiting off of the demise of people, and I stopped following him.
@Based_Gigachad_001
Жыл бұрын
Racist bots don't have valid opinions.
@HawkeyeR
Жыл бұрын
THIS
@tobiasfunke6284
Жыл бұрын
How is Tom any different except he has leafychin?
@afraidofbridges4053
Жыл бұрын
@@tobiasfunke6284how is tom self centered guy profiting of ppl demise
@diplogg6782
Жыл бұрын
Yup, same
@chaseray7321
Жыл бұрын
Never seen someone sperg so hard that they make me wanna support the guy clearly in the wrong of the argument
@Seydlitz338
Жыл бұрын
Who?
@BlackJacked
10 ай бұрын
@@Seydlitz338TCR being so cringe it makes you want to support Plagued
@CircusCuties
7 ай бұрын
@@23greenbelieve it’s a shortened form of the outdated autistic term “a(sperg)ers”. Just a kinda crass (and kinda pretty damn ableist lmfao) way to say someone’s freaking the fuck out
@Jack-sh6xr
Жыл бұрын
disturbed reality actually makes quality content and he IS demonetized. They don't go for him more because he's not a cringeball of 'tism and false moral highground. KiNg oF gOrE
@Signal_in_the_noise
Жыл бұрын
Yah and he’s actually respectful and makes the content in semi-good taste. He cares more about sociological impact of cartel violence and goes into detail to highlight the barbaric nature of what’s going on. Plagued Moth sits in his dark room with eye liner. Selling merch like that is so corny . And Don’t get me started with TCR.
@nwerd7584
Жыл бұрын
just not being a soy bitch is what saves you. Granted I think Disturbed is still pretty young. Plagued is all sympathetic to the current thing, and antifa and shit.
@sarasarah6320
Жыл бұрын
I have learned so much about cartel violence and its effects on the people that live among it from Disturbed Reality. His videos are like a gangland documentary crossed with gore. The gore is secondary and highlights the horror of what is happening everyday.
@angeloalvarez5520
Жыл бұрын
They're almost like mini documentaries. From one of his videos I learned that some college students got adderall from someone and it was laced with Fentanyl. Didn't know it it was that bad
@cursedfetus8129
Жыл бұрын
disturbed is sooooo underrated. not sure why morons are giving PM the time.
@thebuddhasofbostonsports4193
Жыл бұрын
Credit to Tom for being such a calm moderator and going for facts, avoiding fallacies ie. the Ad Hom attacks and such. Trying to get to the point, bottom line TCR had weak SSs without any dates. PM admits he sold the G before but realigned his business model in 2021. IDK I think G in general creates trauma in people, there is one thing about watching a horror movie and another knowing it was a real person and seeing them lose their life.
@FlyingPusssyfoot
Жыл бұрын
I was wondering what is up with his Patreon. They apparently found some reason to remove him. But I've also heard Moth say he took it down, and they didn't kick him the second time. TCR said he reported the discord to Patreon, so what did they find? I could be wrong, but I would assume if he didn't do anything against their TOS, the Patreon would still be up. If it wasn't for selling gore, then what was the violation?
@jst1532
Жыл бұрын
This is strange bc he had a screenshot of him in 2021, announcing the restructure, Which listed 100% access to gore
@gothamsmostwantedclownbitc7107
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. His videos are part of why I can't watch gore anymore. It fucked up my sensors, made me physically sensitive to seeing stuff.. I'm my opinion, no one should make gain from it.
@betide8501
Жыл бұрын
Both TCR and PM are just weirdos who keep this shit up and tbh Idek what to think anymore. TCR has really made himself look like such a fool that I can’t even take his point seriously anymore. Plagued moth doesn’t look good either.
@weepo2651
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but I don’t think plague moth is open about it and tcr is very psycho and is hiding behind that he’s a good person
@HarryToeface
Жыл бұрын
TCR was just a terrible person, he couldn't provide ANY actual evidence, except CROPPED screenshots that he cropped HIMSELF! And then comments from strangers on the internet...I've never been more annoyed by a human in my life!
@theendisthebeginningistheend
Жыл бұрын
🤦
@luuqiix
3 ай бұрын
yeah i dont like either of them, but PM lost his job and house while having a family, which is fucked. but also talking about his children and doxxing them??? which is really messed up
@galacticbreakdown2804
Жыл бұрын
TCR is just the most embarrassing person to have on here. He is just very unlikable. Then when you gotta use "people in my comments" as evidence? Lol wtf is that
@scriggle3564
Жыл бұрын
To be honest both of these guys are lame as hell lol
@-error-7936
Жыл бұрын
I hate that guy
@HarryToeface
Жыл бұрын
Yeah bro, TCR is GARBAGE
@toolatetothestory
Жыл бұрын
He just has no evidence, can't say yes when Moth asks to simply say yes or no if he has any (which is the biggest red flag) and yet continues to just spew accussations without pause
@matthewpunk2012
Жыл бұрын
TCR is just your average twitter dweller.
@apricotseeds
Жыл бұрын
I used to be a fan of plagued moth, and i will say 10000000% yes he did advertise his patreon as the place to go to see uncensored gore. People who paid for the patreon 1000% we're joining for that specific reason. He had it advertised that way all the way up until TCR called him out. It was specifically for the gore. At this point though TCR should give up, plagued isn't gonna admit any faults. It's pointless so if he keeps going it'll just be seen as sperging.
@XxAnEvilWafflexX
Жыл бұрын
What exactly is wrong with gore? This beef makes no sense to me, TCR just seems like a baby. I don't understand what moth did wrong I guess
@bigslurpee2078
Жыл бұрын
@@XxAnEvilWafflexX People are upset that he was making money off of videos of people being brutally killed. That's what he did wrong, is let people pay him to watch what are essentially snuff films. I have to admit I don't have the most knowledge on the situation, so this may be inaccurate but that's what everything I've seen has been pointing towards.
@sashaversteeg3406
Жыл бұрын
@@XxAnEvilWafflexXagreed
@XxAnEvilWafflexX
Жыл бұрын
@@bigslurpee2078 I guess I just don't morally object to having a pay wall for gore. Tons of websites do it. This seems like yet another situation where a bunch of people on the internet turn their nose up at someone and parade their "moral high ground", despite likely being total shit bags in real life.
@ericflores6411
10 ай бұрын
TCR dint like Moths content so he took it on himself to save the world from things he doesn't like.@@XxAnEvilWafflexX
@IAmAndrew1
Жыл бұрын
I haven't watched this video yet but I will say that Plagued Moth sometimes seems to revel in the misery and despair from the people victimized in the videos he covers. Maybe it's inadvertent, but I've noticed it.
@gleebybooer
Жыл бұрын
I love that in this video he pretends like he’s doing some virtuous thing by covering it
@henrytheanglerfish6290
Жыл бұрын
@@gleebybooeryeah it really bugged me how he brought up more than once that families reached out to him to thank him. If TCR made an accusation that his content hurt people, I’d understand him saying it, but…idk it still seems douchy to bring up
@squashedshibber2684
Жыл бұрын
That's a pretty bold way of saying he acts like a cackling demented child with brain damage.
@pc3340
Жыл бұрын
disturbed reality is a much better alternative to plagued moth I think. Puts some effort into the cases behind the gore videos
@paristhomas9274
Жыл бұрын
I be getting immersed just by his voice especially when he makes his voice get deeper during the darker moments of the vid 😅
@Based_Gigachad_001
Жыл бұрын
Disturbed reality doesn't upload much.
@justareligiouszealot
Жыл бұрын
@@Based_Gigachad_001you’ve never heard of quality over quantity?
@novakaiser7949
Жыл бұрын
@@justareligiouszealot no bro has to endlessly consume content or else they might have a thought for once
@squanchysquanch1840
Жыл бұрын
Yes, disturbed is also a lot more respectful to the victims/cases he is covering. Moth just makes cringe jokes when covering things, which is off putting
@01JGill
Жыл бұрын
the beauty of these internet argument is everyone loses
@yungpm
Жыл бұрын
You lose as soon as your fingers make contact with the keyboard.
@mefour83
Жыл бұрын
Ironic Moth agreed to even be on here when Tom is one of the many, many content creators Moth loves to shit talk in his Discord unprovoked
@aliway4136
Жыл бұрын
@@SavoxYTso does TCR
@green2666
Жыл бұрын
Moth is the kind of person that will drop their morals to benefit them in anyway.
@mefour83
Жыл бұрын
@@green2666that would require him having any morals to begin with
@Skdjefkrkfnfne
Жыл бұрын
yeah he seems incredibly fake in every aspect of how he appears to people based on what benefits him. Fucking annoying like just be honest man.
@theepicduck6922
Жыл бұрын
Gotta hop on the bigger platform even if he dislikes Tom I suppose.
@stockp45510
Жыл бұрын
Both have handled this awfully, but from what I’ve seen and heard, that creepy reading is in the right while still handling it all horribly. Plagued moth is so hypocritical tho, will call out others for insults jokes etc about his gender or whatever, but then thrown out insults about adderall or autism to TCR, comes across really fake.
@nexusgiga
Жыл бұрын
Creepy is in the right, but needs to either move on or get a third party to be his mouthpiece. Love his content and agree with him but yeesh
@stockp45510
Жыл бұрын
@@nexusgiga true, I wish someone like Tom would’ve taken over for TCR, cleared points got evidence etc from TCR and absolutely destroyed Plagued Moth, because from what I’ve seen and heard it should be an easy slam dunk.
@ExtremelyOnlineGuy
Жыл бұрын
Dude even jokes about the victims in his videos. Check out the recent beheading. Like bro you joke about people DYING. get a grip dude
@beyondespair
Жыл бұрын
Moth says he is trans and some other shit but makes transphobic jokes, he is full of bullshit.
@stockp45510
Жыл бұрын
@@ExtremelyOnlineGuy When you do the comical look into camera at the beginning of the video and say “today we are going to be counting 99 stomps, spoiler alert it wasn’t really 99” I don’t really see that as respectful, in addition to what you are saying. On Twitter he was saying he was the gore god and didn’t care about respect or whatever else, so why he tries to present that way to Tom idk
@Sidonrn
10 ай бұрын
Let’s all thank Tom for being a kindergarten teacher for an hour-fifteen 👍
@BlackMetal2069
Жыл бұрын
He's just another Black Metalhead who never grew up out of the edgy phase
@leoartolson4658
Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@Tea-fw6vu
Жыл бұрын
Literally I thought it would make me fuck with him more but he’s so genuinely cringe about it 😭
@leoartolson4658
Жыл бұрын
@@Tea-fw6vu looks can be deceiving
@roughrambo1000000
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I get that vibe as well. Look, you can like Black Metal but not be an edge lord. The fact that Fenriz from Darkthrone is legitimately funny and likable, from his public persona, while still making pretty decent black metal is proof.
@uastyrdzhii
Жыл бұрын
He's like Varg if Varg was a British cigarette
@masterjackson536
Жыл бұрын
Dude profits off gore and suicide videos and makes snide comments bad person maybe super cringe yes
@poopyscoopy6984
Жыл бұрын
Gore videos are awesome
@Koshkinayekaterina
Жыл бұрын
@@poopyscoopy6984You’re so quirky!
@wyattm7757
Жыл бұрын
I can not stand this guy, he watches gore videos and makes the cringiest comments the whole time. I dont mind videos abt gore but i cant watch it myself. Just him watching a persons face get ripped off, and him saying almost everytime "oh boy, i bet that hurts" and smiles like a cringelord into the camera. He tries so hard to make his job seem so hardcore to the point its just annoying.
@Based_Gigachad_001
Жыл бұрын
Then don't watch him?
@Sodapopra86
Жыл бұрын
I agree, the only video I watched of him was the case of a teen girl stealing her dad’s car and crashing it. I was unaware of what his channel was (I thought it was just like a basic summary like other true crime channels). I didn’t like the vibe of his content as it felt uncaring or flippant, then I found out about this situation so ig I was right to not even get into that channel
@cherrycordiaI
Жыл бұрын
Tom, thanks for being the ref for this Special Olympics event.
@xenostra
Жыл бұрын
Plagued Moth be like "im gomna dmca slimebeast for reading hia own story and claim its mine" lmao
@topcat59
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I don’t entirely believe plague moth is innocent and I really don’t like that He constantly mentioned that he’s doing this for his family and if that’s the case, then he shouldn’t solely rely on the Internet for income.🐱
@CERTAIND00M
Жыл бұрын
Everybody knows that the only job is "KZitemr" and if you can't monetize your content, your offspring will starve. I personally lost three kids just while I was waiting to be approved for an AdSense account.
@nickescobar6786
Жыл бұрын
@@CERTAIND00Myou gambled three kids on a 1k subscriber channel blowing up lol
@hypocriticalsatire3966
Жыл бұрын
9-5s arent for everyone, and if you have one and like it youre prob genuinely mentally ill or dont deal with public service. That shit sucks. That strawman doesnt really work thats like saying a millionaire should start from the bottom again when someone steals all their income and ruins their career
@charmingcthulhu6544
Жыл бұрын
@@nickescobar6786you wouldn't understand the grindset
@Persephone715
Жыл бұрын
Bingo! Good to see people catching on to that.
@ericanotnice
Жыл бұрын
that man is obsessed with moth. it's actually scary.
@lucathompson7437
Жыл бұрын
Seriously. It’s really similar to stalkers I’ve encountered online.
@Skdjefkrkfnfne
Жыл бұрын
it makes sense, he has a hard stance against what Moth does, and Moth is very antagonistic towards TCR. I support him tho I hope he keeps it up until moth loses his channel again lmao
@ericanotnice
Жыл бұрын
@@Skdjefkrkfnfne i don't lol
@BanginSevenGrams
Жыл бұрын
@@ericanotnice You probably have quite a few stalkers.
@Kivitoya
Жыл бұрын
@@Skdjefkrkfnfne worst take of 2023
@iamjustapudgiebudgie3137
Жыл бұрын
I watched Plagued Moth when he first started making videos but that shit got old quick. He's a gore channel but would throw in his "edgy" political takes, randomly posting shorts with his young kid that was sick at the time to gain sympathy, always quick to ask for donations while sharing an Amazon link to him and his wife's Amazon wishlist filled with toys (for them). He seemed he wanted on that Breadtuber life quick and would sell his soul and anyone else's for a penny.
@badvibesMP4
Жыл бұрын
Hard agree bro. Briefly watched him myself until I heard him dropping completely irelevant dogshit political takes, not shutting tf up about his wacky gender shit etc. Genuinely unbearable
@slvtfordice100
Жыл бұрын
KZitem is a job for him though?? Of course he wants money
@casedistorted
Жыл бұрын
Well a man has got to eat. Some do it by stripping, some do it by shilling on a corner. He has a family he must take care of. I would do the same if I knew it would pay all the bills. Isn’t that what politicians do? It sucks but that’s our world now. Capitalism.
@keatonthekoopatroopa246
Жыл бұрын
@@casedistortedQhy can't people just buy an Island for BreadTubeand make it like Haiti?
@iamjustapudgiebudgie3137
Жыл бұрын
@@casedistorted I agree, that's the beauty of capitalism. I don't have an issue with how he makes his money as much as I personally found it distasteful how he went about it - so I stopped watching. Just like I don't go to strip clubs because I find it a waste of money, but I love that it's there for everyone else who wants to.
@quantumpalmtree
Жыл бұрын
they are both man babies still living in the edge of early to mid 2000s. PM is worse in my opinion because he can't take care of his family without ebegging and grifting. And he's willingly not setting his content as 18+ because he'd be losing like half of his subs
@TheRoseBoy11
Жыл бұрын
Plagued Moth has his own problems that need to be addressed and he's FARRRR for "innocent" but man, TCR knows how to deflect and act elitist to anyone regardless of what drama he's in.
@oppslopper3017
Жыл бұрын
Tom is addicted to chat
@wakingupat2pm349
Жыл бұрын
Legit, when he was ignoring shit multiple times to say "sorry tryna see whats up with chat"
@stephandesme123
Жыл бұрын
TRC has ran with this for too long but he does have a point. Moth’s patreon was taken down because they changed their policy that doesn’t allow gore or graphic content anymore. As a moth sub from when he started making videos, the dude totally advertised his patreon as the uncensored version of his KZitem. And he would make jokes in poor taste, not very respectful towards victims. But that’s within his rights to be a jackass online, TRC should’ve stopped w the patreon takedown. I don’t like how moth has to use his family as a defensive shield for criticism, or his identity. Like bro just say you’re edgy and ignore the dude, you can’t make all these edgy dark jokes about everything else but be that reactive.
@theendisthebeginningistheend
Жыл бұрын
TCR has stopped. Plagued Moth won't.
@shovelhead3843
Жыл бұрын
That Reading Creepy
@xlcreep3765
Жыл бұрын
“anSwEr mY quEsTIoN!” “nO yoU anSwEr mY qUeStIon!”
@jcruz5050
Жыл бұрын
Moth justifies laughing at others gruesome misfortunes bc "oh they were probably cartel" or "this is just what happens in 3rd world countries, why should I sympathize with ppl I don't know??" But when it's HIS daughter NOW we're all supposed to care but babies being beaten, tortured, ended etc. "that's just comedy guys, lighten up!" 🤨
@theendisthebeginningistheend
Жыл бұрын
Plagued Moth can dish it out, but he sure can't take it.
@literallywho9954
Жыл бұрын
Tom, I hope you got some strong migraine meds. I'd feel like caving in my skull after this shit storm.
@llamasaurwithabiscuit5690
Жыл бұрын
I'm getting a migraine just listening to it
@joeywtf7040
Жыл бұрын
i wasnt expecting a collab like this, but this is some juicy ass content
@lindyloohoo
Жыл бұрын
Emphasis on the ass
@click_beatty
Жыл бұрын
RIGHT 😂I knew IMMEDIATELY I was setting aside an hour and some change for this
@pigsaw.
Жыл бұрын
What i never understood about moth is how he claims to have c-ptsd from watching people brutally dying, and then he continues to watch more
@gleebybooer
Жыл бұрын
cuz he is a liar lol
@AGPROD.
Жыл бұрын
Poor Tom had to turn into a Therapist :( The level of patience.
@nanosmokex6998
Жыл бұрын
As a fan of TCR's content he came in here with that crybaby energy like bro really muted him but Moth isn't innocent either
@theendisthebeginningistheend
Жыл бұрын
The dude couldn't hear himself think! I would've done the same thing! 😅😂
@jadenbryant9283
11 ай бұрын
@@theendisthebeginningistheendyeah he was fucking rude
@grassymother
Жыл бұрын
it's hilarious how unlikable both of these dudes come off
@QuentinKarentino
Жыл бұрын
Morbid curiosity is a hell of a thing.
@doublelol3313
Жыл бұрын
I would be embarrassed if my dad was doing this for an hour
@KonwTheTrut
8 ай бұрын
Omg hahahah
@cami3616
8 ай бұрын
yeah, honestly moth should just get off the internet for sake of his family, especially his young daughters. i vaguely remember moth talking about how some trolls were making AI CHEESE PIZZA of his young daughters!!! even though moth is not a great person, you don’t mess with children..
@conflictingcharacter
Жыл бұрын
honestly im not sure what to think of all of this but man plagued moth really does have hard knee jerk reactions. literally Constantly interrupting. the point of the call was to have a real conversation, let one speak, then respond. not immediately start talking when the other person does and do not stop talking and dont let the other person get even 1/3 through what they were trying to say. i get like, Why, upset because being accused of shit but you really gotta let the other guy talk man :/
@nickcharles6530
Жыл бұрын
They were BOTH being childish and interrupting one another. I’ve never heard of the TCR guy before, but he seems to be very childish, while Plagued Moth was ultra-defensive throughout the video. Seems like they both need to grow up a bit and stop sniping at each other.
@PlatonicRenegade-pq5pm
Жыл бұрын
It's a given that you won't be emotionally stable if ur being doxed online by the same guy ur meant to have a talk with. TCR guy is a hard schizo
@MonkeMan2.0
Жыл бұрын
It’s a good thing tom published this video because holy sh*t I kept switching sides without even evaluating as an outsider. 😂
@nagito8734
Жыл бұрын
I hopped off the plagued moth train a while back. I'm glad I did
@anonvoila4883
Жыл бұрын
Lol 😂 Poor Tom, I feel for you, bro! My man is taking deep breaths. You are a real one, bro; you do what it takes to get the content to us.
@DandiDelight
Жыл бұрын
A personal and biased theory here, I really feel like TCR is just tryna get the easy content w all this drama, his content has gone so down in quality since dropping the creepy stuff and just focusing on the “these youtubers need to stop” videos and even in most of those videos he complains about how lil he wants to even put work into videos and then comes into the call w a chip on his shoulder and that’s as a former fan who felt bum rushed by the random tlc mom drama
@bootipls
Жыл бұрын
All I can think of when I see anything about him is the "think about the children" meme from the Simpsons.
@maddymooo
Жыл бұрын
I did notice a downgrade with TCR. Also noticed he was lucky if he had a video out in four months. Yikes.
@confusedhuman2786
Жыл бұрын
I don't know these people or their drama but from that Moths guy speech pattern i just know he's the one in the wrong here. "You're taking money from my suck daughter" but isn't he the one making money with people dying. Bruh
@janeygotaknife
Жыл бұрын
Lmao I know
@Psycrow142
Жыл бұрын
Ehh they are already dead and people want to hear about gore content without seeing it themselves or they don’t know where to find it. Watching gore isn’t illegal and after a while of watching gore you become very desensitized to it. I used to watch a lot of gore when I was younger and stopped when I was older because it changed how I viewed the world as a person.
@HerbBrid3
Жыл бұрын
@@Psycrow142do you hear the problem with what you just said
@fresnonightcrawler4910
Жыл бұрын
i dont get the argument of selling gore past 2021 or not like why does the matter what year it happened he was still selling gore??
@whettjohnson
Жыл бұрын
This'll probably get burried but whatever, im one of the guys that got brought up here a few times, long story short i was in moths discord for a good long while, and at the time of parting i was ranked the 4th most active user all time there, right under moth himself. Needless to say i was a devoted fan, for a long time i genuinely believed the guy was in it to shed light on bad shit, come to find out hes just a liar that found a really profitable niche. Ill start by saying that that the uncensored videos room got deleted literally hours after TCR went public. The evidence isnt circumstantial, theyre first hand accounts in the form of question and answers being screenshotted, over and over and over. To call it an open secret wouldn't be right because it wasnt even a secret. If you had the patreon role, you only had to ask for directions. The discord is big, was a lot bigger before they purged it. Many of those screenshots i took myself, though i cropped it in an attempt to spare friends of more breach of privacy than they were already experiencing. Several of us quickly got in contact with tcr after he went public, mainly in effort to do damage control for our side, and to provide him with facts and reciepts because moth is a VERY good liar, hes very good at controlling a narrative and spinning it in a way that makes him feel like he has the moral high ground. This guys already doing mental gymnastics with the lying, hes even tried blackmailing myself and several other highly active members as well as mods both current and former, after we parted from his community. This motherfucker went so far as to claim that my child was born of pedophilia, im not entertaining that shit, i had just turned 21 and got an 18 year old knocked up, but thats whatever and we've been together for 5 yesrs now. You see, what's been failed to be mentioned here is that over these past few months moths had a massive falling out within his inner circle, even the few that remain have been up front about no longer being able to trust a thing the guy says. Again im sure it'll get burried but as during all of this, i was playing triple agent trying to find an amicable outcome, i witheld a lot of shit from TCR for the sake of my friends privacy, i will however be willing to send all uncropped screenshots to Tom. Anywho, moth can eat a chode. Him and his wife are geninely horrible people, those closest to him all see that now and though his paypigs will never stop coming, i made some really good friends becsuse of him, and our lives are much more enjoyable now that we're no longer associated with that POS.
@Signal_in_the_noise
Жыл бұрын
I’m not even a Moth fan and this looks like a fabricated story from a stalker TCR alt account 😂😂
@nickred1016
Жыл бұрын
Proof?
@RedLemonCola
Жыл бұрын
cap
@battlechoads6515
Жыл бұрын
Plagued’s personality made me more sick to my stomach than his content lol. Future lolcow.
@1984wasntreal
Жыл бұрын
He had his own thread on KF before it was taken down.
@squashedshibber2684
Жыл бұрын
He's been known as an Lolcow for years now. His threads get taken down constantly cause he sends his fans after them.
@Aquaticur
Жыл бұрын
I don't care about how bad of a person he is, he's just cringe.
@Tea-fw6vu
Жыл бұрын
Literally like diabolically cringe
@ulyssesveracruz8343
Жыл бұрын
Which one ?
@Tea-fw6vu
Жыл бұрын
@@ulyssesveracruz8343 Plauged moth lol
@Aquaticur
Жыл бұрын
@@ulyssesveracruz8343 Both of them
@nexusgiga
Жыл бұрын
No. Moth is cringe too
@samtilden4452
Жыл бұрын
I deleted it because I thought it was mean, but after following Plagues want for his first documentary, just to have it be more than dead air than anything, I knew he wasn’t gonna make it. Surpassed by Wendigoon and every other channel
@theedward3499
Жыл бұрын
Wendigoon da 🐐, has kind of the same limited style that Plagued has at times, but unlike him, he has a likible personality, was literally BORN to give lengthy lectures and brings in humor whenever it’s appropriate. As well as also changing up the formula in his videos at times. Also he’s handsome which is pretty important
@megabladechronicles962
Жыл бұрын
@@theedward3499 I think it also helps that Wendigoon has a wide variety of topics that he covers beyond true crime or disturbing content. He's done videos on movies, ARGs, history, psychology, even philosophy rather than focus on a single topic. It helps make him a more interesting person to follow because if you don't link one of his genres there are plenty of other ones that he covers
@ComeInAlone00000
Жыл бұрын
Wendigoon is a likable person though and covers content beyond gore. They’re not even in the same category of streamer imo
@MonkeMan2.0
Жыл бұрын
@@theedward3499 Ik you said he’s handsome, but I can safely say he’s not just handsome, he’s a handsome GOAT.
@kaelyn6078
Жыл бұрын
So his content is watching people die or be seriously injured, and he’s claiming that he does everything to be an advocate for victims.. I’m normally never okay with people being deplatformed, but just listening to this guy talk makes me feel nauseous for some reason.
@MissiGNO000
Жыл бұрын
The family of one of the victims liked his vid
@enterusername6953
Жыл бұрын
@@MissiGNO000 Well that settles it. He's a good guy now and he's completely innocent for all the advocacies for the victims he jokingly reacted too because of this one like.
@squashedshibber2684
Жыл бұрын
He stated multiple times he enjoys gore content and likes making money off suffering he's such a geeklord
@xTheMLPGodx
Жыл бұрын
I find it weird that moth is denying that content was in the discord past a certain point when he still promoted it AS having that stuff uncensored
@RueRyuzaki6
Жыл бұрын
I used to watch plagued moth but he became a whiny loser after the drama with TCR started. Bro was begging for money on Twitter multiple times, even begged for money to get a heat bulb for his lizard 💀. Owns multiple pets and has multiple children but refuses to get a day job
@ComeInAlone00000
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, dudes a total loser tbh
@squashedshibber2684
Жыл бұрын
You forgot he has to let everyone know he hates his mom as well every day. A whole grown ass man.
@remi5844
Жыл бұрын
I would try to watch plagued moth because I wanted to learn more about certain cases but rather than actually give some information he would just count how many stomps it took to kill a person or something
@aliway4136
Жыл бұрын
You have never watched a PM video🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 your comment proves that
@Arreyuh
Жыл бұрын
Nah fr. Disturbed Reality is 10x better and way more informative. Plague is cringe.
@Persephone715
Жыл бұрын
I agree. Not much substance there. But to be fair, PM doesn't have the audience for that. Just the comments have shown that. He simply supplies a demand. With a few exceptions, the audience is there for reactions to gore. The inception of the channel is very different than it is today. He wanted to be the king of gore, so that's where he is. It will fade just like the others before it. After all, most people grow up.
@MonkeMan2.0
Жыл бұрын
I’d recommend disturbed reality, while he does not upload a lot, it’s the situation of “quality over quantity” as he doesn’t poke fun and tries to be informative and go with the educational route (that and he doesn’t do the “live reactions” like moth does which could be off-putting or uncomfortable to listen to).
@TheCrescentLune
Жыл бұрын
"Or something" Man. I hate when ppl make videos & do "stuff" "or something."
@nickescobar6786
Жыл бұрын
Amazing how everyone in the comments watched an over hour long interview in 20 minutes, and calls it trash as well
@lucathompson7437
Жыл бұрын
We are actively watching it
@meltedWax169
Жыл бұрын
Literally tho. They just want their ideas reaffirmed. They're not willing to hear it all out.
@kevintheprincedragon8661
Жыл бұрын
Bruh I swear the comments are full of PM defenders or people who think PM and TCR are cringe
@theepicduck6922
Жыл бұрын
@@kevintheprincedragon8661 They are, TCR is just more cringe due to his rather evident autism.
@josephbernardthesecond4974
Жыл бұрын
Idk maybe because a lot of people watched it live.
@WoahItsCaleb
Жыл бұрын
I don't know if I'm being too edgy when I say this, but the only thing I remember about Plagued Moth is that he constantly mocks people's suffering, but when his daughter was suffering and people made fun of both of them, PM was like "wahhh that's not cool guys you went too far how could you say such a thing wahhh"
@theendisthebeginningistheend
Жыл бұрын
Plagued Moth is a total hypocrite. 😂
@Persephone715
Жыл бұрын
True story.
@janeygotaknife
Жыл бұрын
Yeah like those people died and he’s like Chill about it
@hawks4305
Жыл бұрын
Remember that Moth has a family 😂
@rorygalusha5549
Жыл бұрын
Disturbed Reality is the real deal. Very respectful and mature.
@Dante_yo_son_of_sparda_yo77
Жыл бұрын
Disturbed reality is better
@loveluscenes
Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say that daisy's destruction is real and whilst daisy herself is alive there were 2 other girls in films he made who were there at the time in the same house and one died that's why people said that
@majesdane
Жыл бұрын
Was just about to comment this. I happened to watch the 60 minutes episode the other day. Ironic that PM was talking about people spewing false info (which I agree is stupid and harmful) while also spewing false info.
@DeadMemeFrog
Жыл бұрын
Plagued Moth is straight up lying about Spinnling posting his dox lol
@ezekielwonders4212
Жыл бұрын
Tom had so much patience doing this, I would've cracked bro.
@Diet_sprite
Жыл бұрын
All i can say thats its fucked up that people will watch people react to public executions and theres a genre for that
@jadenbryant9283
11 ай бұрын
Hey morbid curiosity is a thing
@Diet_sprite
11 ай бұрын
@@jadenbryant9283it is, but still fucked up
@liquidchrist3405
Жыл бұрын
i remember a few years ago when plagued moth was first getting popular and i joined his discord server. him and his mods were super weird and extremely sexual for no reason and i pointed out that there could be kids in the server and one of the weirdo mods banned me for it
@kingleothesomethingsomethi285
Жыл бұрын
For some reason I just pictured you going there saying “Hi” and someone immediately asking for sex😂😂😂
@nephilimritual-band
Жыл бұрын
highly doubt
@ComeInAlone00000
Жыл бұрын
This should be pinned
@hawks4305
Жыл бұрын
@@nephilimritual-bandare you blind and dumb?
@AgxntAqua
Жыл бұрын
Grown men who pass around gore videos like pokemon cards are obviously disturbed individuals. I actually understand the true crime/documentarian approach but reacting to it like it's a new music video is f*cking wild. I watched a lot of seriously messed up stuff as a kid, and my memory isnt particularly photographic, but those images are burned into my brain. I seriously regret it. There is a reason people who are exposed to this stuff as a matter of occupation take regular therapy. Especially minors. Kids should not be anywhere near this stuff.
@gorillachronicles
Жыл бұрын
Yes he is a scumbag,i asked him why he had a video about a young womans recent death monetized and he just lurked my twitter and found my PayPal i was asking for help and he posted it to his twitter and called me poor,i had to deactivate because his fans were going after me
@gorillachronicles
Жыл бұрын
And all I did was say why is this video monetized
@gorillachronicles
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention paywalling pictures of dead children
@DH-ij9pe
Жыл бұрын
Never have seen someone play the victim on the level Plagued Moth does. His content has gotten worse and worse with all of his I am a victim and begging for money all the time. Also, I love how Moth will constantly deny watching DD yet he has admitted on his discord to watching it, and then when asked about it in this he seems to know an awful lot about a video he claimed to never watch....
@flexgunship6345
Жыл бұрын
He does enjoy watching it. He's fully into it and he's pulled down a lot of the stuff where he makes light of people being killed. He misjudged people, he just assumed a lot of ppl were like him because the usual places he hangs out is where all the weirdos go online are like him, then he comes to KZitem, where there are a lot of normal people and he had to reign it all in to keep the money flowing. Not to mention how he is with girls on his discord that's an entirely different story. He's literally just a stain. A net negative online.
@_Madd4m
Жыл бұрын
I used to follow plagued moth for a time but after the hogwarts drama he went on a rant about anyone playing the game were “problematic” and if you were not an ally, then you should just stop following him. Plus his content started to get really boring for me.
@tehhotline4225
Жыл бұрын
I know neither of them but that makes me dislike him alot
@KuroKumo96
Жыл бұрын
I figured he would do something like that, especially when he maid a video coming out as gender-fluid or whatever tf being an effeminate man “sometimes” is.
@stevepenn2582
Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine taking the moral high ground on something problematic while having a history like his
@squashedshibber2684
Жыл бұрын
His virtue signaling is so bad I generally can't tell if its a joke
@NeoKratosfan2007
11 ай бұрын
@@KuroKumo96I remember seeing that video, he made the thumbnail look like he wasn’t gonna support the lgbt when its more like,”HEY GUYS IM NON BINARY!”
@Jack-sh6xr
Жыл бұрын
I've seen plague sh*t talk turkey tom multiple times, surprised hes talking to him
@RueRyuzaki6
Жыл бұрын
Clout
@fujiwarachika2187
Жыл бұрын
Moth will complain when 2021 screenshots will be used as evidence against him, but then shows 2018 screenshots of Tom to paint him as a racist/bigot or something
@squashedshibber2684
Жыл бұрын
Not surprised. He's just goth boogie
@jayaustin1
Жыл бұрын
plagued moth is acting like a manchild in this interview
@jessickalush3305
8 ай бұрын
Um, he IS a man child. I feel sorry for his kid.
@dakistle
6 ай бұрын
Just this one?
@chikitanikita6318
Жыл бұрын
I was a fan of tcr (got bored and watched fortnite at 3am videos) so to see his name on a Tomdark video felt like dusting a picture of an old friend... Then listened to this whole video and nearly died of laughter at work
@endtimesninja1235
Жыл бұрын
Plagued moth is a liar and is walking cringe.
@aliway4136
Жыл бұрын
So is TCR
@Based_Gigachad_001
Жыл бұрын
Plagued moth IS edgy but he isn't as malicious or annoying as TCR. Plagued moth has done good in this world and TCR just obsessed over moth in such a childish way just because he's a weirdo and when people call tcr out on it he uses autism as a defense. It's so hilariously pathetic.
@CravingPasta
Жыл бұрын
@@Based_Gigachad_001I wouldn’t say he wasn’t as malicious as TCR. Moth maliciously and false copyright claimed 3 people for even talking about the situation as well as paywalling uncensored gore in his discord to make profit off of people dying. Don’t act like Moth doesn’t have several malicious faults as well. As far as I have seen, I don’t see how Moth has “done good for this world” at all lmao. Dude is just as terrible as the people he copes about. Not to mention he made a whole slander video about Slimebeast being a “creep” meanwhile manipulating the lackluster evidence to fit his narrative and excluding other evidence in it.
@jessickalush3305
8 ай бұрын
@@Based_Gigachad_001They should both go cliff diving
@keenandarcy7432
Жыл бұрын
I normally don’t enjoy these stream interviews but this video is kinda gold
@Crizzly122
8 ай бұрын
"Is Plague Moth a terrible person?" I don't know who that is "So this guy does *gore reaction videos* " Yes, he's a terrible person
@raviolimasteroli2341
Жыл бұрын
The only reason I honestly took TCR’s side on this whole thing was just how god damn annoying moth is. Hiding behind the block button, making shit up out of thin air, then hiding behind his gender and his kids every single time he’s called out is a tad bit grating. He unironically claimed that anyone who played Hogwarts Legacy was transphobic (yeah) and claims to be gender fluid when he looks like a homeless Rob Zombie.
@3until4
Жыл бұрын
“It’s not a gore discord” “Do you watch gore?” “No” Underrated moment
@yasmin7343
Жыл бұрын
I subscribed to Moth last year. I've noticed a steady decline in empathy for the victims in his videos and a lot more cringe, "edge lord" jokes and comments that have made watching his videos insufferable. I'm not saying he needs to break down and sob in his videos, but lately his presentation has been coming across as pretty disrespectful. Not to mention this weird, giddy schoolgirl giggle he does sometimes while presenting these tragic cases and information. He's just another edgelord on the internet capitalizing on tragedy and shock that doesn't give a single shit about the victims. Just my opinion though. ✌️😙
@TamBanal
10 ай бұрын
I've notcied something similar with Donut Operator his thumbnails now are JUST shitting on dead people.
@Blank-41
Жыл бұрын
Ive watched quite a bit of Plagued Moth when I got into a little morbid curiosity phase but he says things that are rather off putting but I never knew anything beyond that.
@dankflo
Жыл бұрын
i used to watch moth, but ive never been into icebergs and it seemed as though he went on an iceberg wave so i stopped but he does provide a valid point, gore in general is everywhere, especially now with the war in Ukraine, go pro war footage and IR apache videos are everywhere on here, uncensored, and in most cases are incredibly brutal and close quarters or within easy viewing distance. but i feel as though ALL gore content in general should be removed from youtube, it has no place here and can damage your mental health.
@Persephone715
Жыл бұрын
That's why it's always been demonized for the most part. In the past few weeks, we've seen even more lack of empathy towards gore from a couple of channels (autopsy photos of a child) KZitem will get even more trigger happy in the future. All the more reason to not lay your financial future on it. I have zero problems with learning about cases, I do find money for people's suffering to be problematic. Be it KZitem, news, whatever. To me personally, it does have an effect.
@bansheebah
Жыл бұрын
Tbh... this kind of clears a lot of this situation up in my mind... been observing silently for a long time..... but i hope both sides can just agree to disagree and everyone can just move on... there is a lot of misinformation and or misunderstandings on very controversial topics... end the bloodletting and move on... best for all. Ty for allowing some steam for both sides. Not easy...much respect, Tom.
@Slimebeast
Жыл бұрын
Where's the call-in segment where a bunch of people Moth couldn't scream over and prevent from talking pointed out all the ways that he's a lying scumbag?
@lastilnovista
Жыл бұрын
i used to follow PM for a while, but for the past year his videos have been nothing but intrapersonal drama and cringe. all these “controversies” have brought out such an immature, childish side of him. so boring and corny, i had to unfollow.
@aliway4136
Жыл бұрын
I have watched this drama for a few months. TCR is being ridiculous!! I was a fan of TCR and never heard of plagued moth. TCR has a weird personal vendetta against plagued moth. It has nothing to do with the drama he claims it is🤦♀️
@maddymooo
Жыл бұрын
I don't like Plagued Moth, but this drama has gone on for months. I think PM is unethical, but this is just getting ridiculous.
@aliway4136
Жыл бұрын
@@maddymooohe is a weird guy that likes weird stuff🤷♀️ TCR is going way to far!
@hannahs765
Жыл бұрын
yeah i dont know either of these ppl but its very obvious that guy is obsessed with the gore guy in a weird way.
@maddymooo
Жыл бұрын
@@aliway4136 TCR has been freaking out over the same points for months now. It's embarrassing. Even though I don't think PM should have been selling gore videos, if that's all he really has on him, he needs to shut up. TCR should have simply called him out and let everything else run its course. But no, TCR just has to keep parading around.
@aliway4136
Жыл бұрын
@@maddymooo he's also gathering others to act like a pitchfork mob🙄
@k-ondoomer
Жыл бұрын
I've watched plagued moth since he was small and I enjoy his documentaries. But this dude is constantly in some crisis or spat with someone and it does get tiring to constantly hear a Debbie downer with some drama every week. Part of growing up is learning the social grace to pick and choose your battles, and navigate life in a way where you aren't constantly arguing with people or being in a crisis ( within reason stuff happens obviously.) You start to notice as you get older some people just " attract " drama and problems and it makes you wonder about how the engage with others
@stealyourgirl1996
11 ай бұрын
Idk why it matters when he posted them but who provides to their family by selling gore videos like ya I’m glad your income is taken away
@rudysanchez822
11 ай бұрын
i think he's upset that his income is still being messed with even after he stopped showing gore in his patreon or discord
@theendisthebeginningistheend
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, he's weird.
@stealyourgirl1996
11 ай бұрын
@@rudysanchez822 Ya but honestly just showing you reaction to children getting murdered on the internet is still strange, I’ve failed to ever meet a normal plague moth watcher
@rudysanchez822
11 ай бұрын
@@stealyourgirl1996 wdym by normal? lol also i dont think someone being strange on the internet really justifies taking his main source of income
@RedLemonCola
10 ай бұрын
@@stealyourgirl1996he has never made a reaction video to children getting murdered LMAO. That girl getting stomped a bunch of times, she survived it, do your research dingo.
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