Roger Wakefield both , but if I have time & not in an attic I'll solder
@charlesking678
5 жыл бұрын
Propress. Saves on labor on big jobs and with service you get in and get out and collect your money much faster. Propress all the way.
@garyvallone5393
5 жыл бұрын
Another way for illegal alien unskilled labor to take jobs from real plumbers
@williamknighton7416
5 жыл бұрын
I love the ProPress from a working standpoint because it makes the job faster and easier but sometimes soldering it it feels like it maybe has kind of an art form to it I say strictly for you don't work at ATS a ProPress is my favorite but sometimes soldering you know can be fun especially to make a really nice clean solder joint
@boby115
4 жыл бұрын
Been using ProPress and megapress system for years ( 6 years ) now in the gas industry & it's worked out well. Recently they just took the ProPress copper gas fittings off the market because the O-ring just failed a more stringent testing standard. The mega press is still good at this time. Personally I have had no problems with the ProPress or megapress as long as the proper stab depth procedure was followed. One of my coworker, gas fitter buddies just ran into a problem with a 2" megapress fitting with proper stab depth (leaking ). We sent it off to our lab for testing and still waiting for results. Just a note to all the pipefitters and plumbers out there that use this system, time and experiences over time are the best test. Systems like this start losing their luster if failures start exposing their ugly heads ( time will tell).
@pedroengler223
3 жыл бұрын
I have pro pressed under full pressure, in a hotel with supply solenoid on a timer. This solenoid opened on me mid installation of a bypass line and I was able to press a ball valve(open) before a catastrophe happened. Believe me I was soaked by the time everything was brought under control. I was not a fan of the propress going into that job, I immediately became a fan,👍🏼, good video. The positives outweight the negatives. Not all A&Es approve this product because of personal experiences with projects where the installations where not done properly. However I try to push for this product whenever I can. The big thing about this product is that the copper needs to be debarred properly, the fittings need to be bottomed out, and ( most problems I have seen are this stage) do not forget to pro press every joint. The outfit I used to work for had us initial the joints that we were responsible for, this alone brought down the number of failures due to forgetting to crimp joints in big jobs. Keep up the great work on these vids.
@roadrunner694
27 күн бұрын
I installed propress over twenty years ago and it is still holding, I borrowed the press tool from the plumbing store I bought the copper and fittings from.
@victorvinegar7116
5 жыл бұрын
Propress is definitely a lot easier to install. It only becomes difficult when you're in a tight space, than I would rather sweat a joint. I don't know what I would say is better from a longevity standpoint though. I'm sure it'll hold for a long time but no one can really say for sure. Older guys hate it in general. They say it takes skill away from the trade. I agree with that, but technology will always evolve and if it makes the job easier and lasts just as long there's no stopping it. Love the editing by the way
@liberaltears1714
4 жыл бұрын
Victor Vinegar I think that’s why they made it $3,000 so the diy guys wouldn’t buy it
@joshcowart2446
4 жыл бұрын
I had that old timers attitude and I’m not old. It was more of a joke than anything. I’d say these damn kids and their propress never learning how to solder. That being said it was nice having a skill you could still teach rather than telling them to push a button. We started doing a lot of work for Austin ISD the past couple of years. They allow propress but not mega press. They said it’s because they can’t work on it which doesn’t make sense to me. It was nice however to pull out the power vice and dies and show a bunch of youngsters how it’s done
@pauldank3453
4 жыл бұрын
@@joshcowart2446 i Just got taught to solder and honestly i am glad it is Not Standard in our company but i can see how it requires more skill
@joshcowart2446
4 жыл бұрын
Krasser Dude it’s good to have that as an option though. For example, we put a bunch of angle stops on thinking we were putting in wall hung lavs. I had to take them all off and cut the rings to pull escutcheons whenever I learned cabinets were going in. The copper got a little messed up in the process and compression fittings wouldn’t seal so I just soldered on male adapters and screwed in threaded angle stops and it fixed it. Also if you do commercial work you’re ultimately going to have to put copper trap arms in and they don’t make pro press dwv fittings yet that I’m aware of.
@Qusin111
2 жыл бұрын
Pro press is easy but every single joint will leak in 15-20 years
@wackyfours
4 жыл бұрын
My employer had us soldering everything,' until one guy burned down 6 units. Now we pro press everything. Personally, I love it, it’s fast and convenient. The only thing you have to be is extra cautious when crimping the fitting in a tight/tough spot where you might struggle to properly place your pro-press tool. I’ve had a couple situations where I test my work and I inspect every joint and everything seemed dry, gauge pressure is good through out the day. The following day, I always recheck my fittings and in two different occasions the tiniest drip of water, one that doesn’t leave a puddle because it’s so small, was oozing out. My advice is, double check your press fittings.
@keitht24
Жыл бұрын
I don't trust the guy in this video. He basically trashes a lot of these products that make DIY jobs easier. I feel like he's concerned about losing work to DIY & other plumbers who're embracing these products to squeeze stubborn old timers like him out of the market. Propress & Sharkbites make plumbing jobs faster & infinitely easier. Being an old timers set in his ways makes him resistance to accepting new technology.
@ericbutler856
6 ай бұрын
I've used it for about 9 years working as a plumber in the school district we have a lot of old buildings that go back to the 50s I've done a lot of difficult repairs to do that would have been very hard to do soldering. I know because I've had to solder some 4" water mains in tight areas .I've used to progress and it was a lot easier. But on some of these old pipes I've had them leak instantly on pipes that were pitted . I have to cut in a bunch of 4" and 3' valves and wondering how well there going to do on the 3" copper lines because there hot water lines and a bunch of out hot water lines tend to pit.
@Tracker7266
4 жыл бұрын
A few years ago I renovated a master bathroom and called a plumber that I knew and trusted to set my shower pan and shower valve. He used ProPress. When I was watching him, I listened and learned a lot. Later on I had another bathroom renovation and some other plumbing repairs over the years and both times I rented a ProPress tool from a local plumbing supplier. I learned how to sweat or solder copper when I was younger from my grandfather & dad and I consider myself a pretty decent DIY person. So many times I've tried to solder "on-the-fly" or with water unknowingly in the line. A few times, when re-pressuring the lines, I'd find micro drips. Sooo .... drain the system, reheat, re-solder. Can be very frustrating. Also, a few times soldering copper in cramped quarters got to be a logistical nightmare and pretty dangerous. Hands down, ProPress is soooooo much easier. Just a few weeks ago I rented the tool to replace a large section of M pipe that was seeping and two gate valves that were shot along with about 20-30 feet of 1/2" and 3/4" pipe. The fittings aren't cheap and the tool rental cost was marginal but a task of soldering 15-20 joints that would have taken an entire day or weekend, only took about 2-3 hours. That includes cutting out the old, cutting in the new, dry fitting and connecting with the ProPress tool. That being said, I was on the hook and responsible for anything that happened to the tool or if it was stolen. It was $50.00 to rent for a weekend. (1 day rental fee) but the tool with the heads, batteries, etc. was over a $3,000 deposit. A 3/4" ball valve ran about $22-$25.00 at the time of this posting. The cost of a plumber would have been around $350-$450.00 for what I needed done. Total cost, tool rental, fittings and L copper pipe, cost me about $175.00-$200.00. Do I worry about the longevity and lifespan. Absolutely. Will I loose sleep over it, nope. My home was built in the early 80's. The M pipe I replaced was only 30 yrs. old and had pinhole leaks. The gate valves were leaking and shot. The L pipe and ProPress fittings will probably last longer than the crap the builder installed. Plus, I won't be around or living here in another 40-50 yrs. LOL
@RogerWakefield
4 жыл бұрын
Ray C I do like propress. I also agree that people learning to use it and make their own plumbing repairs can save a lot of money. Thank you so much for watching and commenting! I do appreciate it...
@jacinthebox31
3 жыл бұрын
I personally love the propress and megapress! Love to solder also! Done that for many applications cars, refrigeration, plumbing. But this press together system is a game changer when keeping up with the demand! Amazing invention and investment!
@connicrow9463
7 ай бұрын
FYI, they have speedy convenient HVAC press fittings, and even removeable re-useable push fit types too now. Yes, specialized HVAC sized fittings with built in high pressure refrigerant O rings, and they crimp connect together same manner. No more lugging gas tanks, brazing mistakes, torching flames to set off alarms, and inner pipe soot from high heat to foul up TXV valves. They're more expensive of course but IMO well worth it
@915richyrooter9
5 жыл бұрын
I prefer solder fittings but pro press fittings gets you in and out of job quickly the area where I work most of the gate valves don’t close or ball valves,like you said dealing with hot work permits working in day cares where you don’t want to set off the smoke detectors if you solder it’s a nice tool but pretty expensive!👍🏼
@christianvega7493
3 жыл бұрын
Funny you say that had to reschedule a main valve replacement in a condo unit but god damn main valve for that particular line doesn't hold water old gate valve waited 1hour thinking it was draining 8 floors and nothing. Main 2inch valve outside doesn't hold .
@jeroncannon5278
5 жыл бұрын
I love propress! When i used to do service calls using propress would speed things up so fast i was able to add 1-2 more jobs a day and make more money. Waiting for the whole system to drain out and you know immediately if its going to leak or not. Fantastic system! It was expensive for the tool but had it pay for itself in a couple of months with the extra work i was able to do!
@user-gy7kx8zx8k
5 жыл бұрын
I like what your doing with the new edits
@johncordero3510
3 жыл бұрын
Freakin hilarious and informative
@jasonhines1232
4 жыл бұрын
I subscribed just because this dude's edits are awesome, let alone great content.
@RogerWakefield
4 жыл бұрын
Jason Hines are you related to my videographer? I'm not giving him a raise if you are... Thanks for watching, commenting, and subscribing!
@kevin7151
2 жыл бұрын
Roger, thanks for the informative video. I appreciate your views on Propress but as a homeowner, still am inclined towards sweated joints. My house is 90 years old and many joints are original and still working in good order. No offense to Propress or Sharkbite, but they dont have that same history.
@kevin7151
7 ай бұрын
@@connicrow9463 I respect your opinion, just am not an early adopter. Like to see things work out of a longer period of time, thats all. I hold the same position with respect to drug testing before it is made widely to the public. Just cautious that's all.
@pualruiz
4 жыл бұрын
I love and use both methods in my shop. One thing I will say about using propress tools, I don’t think guys who just came into the field and guys or gals right out of school should use it. I think soldering is a art. And that’s what I learned to do when I first started. Solder before you press
@complaintrain
5 жыл бұрын
Solder is proven when installed correctly. Propress will save you time on the job obviously and will pay for itself in time after a few jobs. But, time will tell longevity wise for progress fittings depending on those o-rings. Tenperature and quality of water on those o-rings! Soldering you can install tighter fitting layout, unlike propress. Usually newer technology is good, but having to adapt to change is what makes it hard to switch over. Solder for sure. I would have to see installs over ten years and water quality tests on those non failing installs to switch over.
@shawndunleavy892
2 жыл бұрын
Mega press is a godsend. We’ve been pressing for about 12 years and never any fitting failures. Plus you can work with residual water in the line. Also check out the jaws ridgid makes that work on Milwaukee and their own press tools. It’s an actuator with small little jaws you open by had and put on the fitting then press it. It lets you press on angles and is great for tight spots
@daelnelbel
4 жыл бұрын
So when you did the old Windows Error insert I got an Ad, which made me laugh.
@drasco61084
3 жыл бұрын
Same here hahahah
@robertdurnez5221
3 жыл бұрын
@@drasco61084 q
@isaiahyeates7816
3 жыл бұрын
I use pro press and I love it... the only thing that I'm worried about is sometimes I plumb into older piping with well water running through it with low PH. As you know this will cause the piping to become thin. Is it still a good idea to pro press the thin pipe? Usually if I encounter thin piping I will just solder it for peace of mind. I'm a well water guy not a plumber but we do install the pressure tanks
@hoth2o106
5 жыл бұрын
I've got 4 service trucks with a propress in each one. Saves time every time. Only use the torch to remove a fitting if needed. Been using propress for 10 years and as long as you install the fittings properly there are no problems
@frankmccurry2083
4 жыл бұрын
I have a Milwaukee propress and I love it I am trying to get the Megapress
@jellybean1976928
2 жыл бұрын
10 years? That's nothing. When your installing under slab on a new build you should be looking at longevity in the hundreds of years, or at least a hundred years. Are the rubber fittings still going to seal in a hundred plus years?
@salemkid_96
2 жыл бұрын
Nibco pro press fittings suck
@harrisfogel6992
2 жыл бұрын
@@jellybean1976928 Having had slab leaks from 50 year old copper with soldered fittings, I think that is a moot point. The thing about gaskets, is that if designed and manufactured properly they can have incredibly long lives. Oxidation is normally where failures occur, and these types of fittings, seal against that. It's different then a SharkBite for that reason. I don't have a PowerPress tool, but would love one.
@jellybean1976928
2 жыл бұрын
@@harrisfogel6992 I own 4 houses that all have copper plumbing much older than me and I've never had a failure in copper, only in GAL pipe. Whereas I own 60 cars, the Majority of which are between 30 and 50 years old, I can be sure that even the best gaskets deteriorate and have a lifetime that shouldn't IMO have concrete poured over them making them non serviceable.
@deetredacted7270
2 жыл бұрын
totally agree; I've used propress for about 20 years now no issues at all. evenn used it on hydronic heating systems. only thig I use sharkbite for is t&p drain line
@usernumber4735
4 жыл бұрын
I just want to say thank you so much! I am starting my career in plumbing after finally finishing my trade school just a little bit ago and I LOVE your videos! every video I have seen has been both very entertaining and extremely informative! So keep EM' coming!
@wickedleeloopy2115
2 жыл бұрын
30 years ago progress was unheard of . Battery & tool technology has come along way
@KharmenSense
Ай бұрын
I do apartment maintanence. We have a lot of wore out gate valves that don't shut the water off completely or at all. The Propress is great for the fact I can keep working to get that leak/install done. I order the fittings on Amazon which are way cheaper than any Sharkbite (which I hate with a passion). I use the Ridgid RP115 and plan on getting the RP315 as soon as I can. A tub manifold install will consist of me sweating the copper in the shop as much as I can then using the propress at the apartment where expedience and safety concerns are a key factor. This cuts down on costs. coming out of the slab I will do a propess to ball valve to copper then pex adapter to pex to the copper I sweated in the shop to manifold (if that makes sense). I do this so the next guy down the road only has to cut off the pex to remove the manifold and replace with the same. This enables the next guy down the road to be able to do a replacement sans problems. Roger, I live on your channel. It has really expanded my knowledge and abilities vis a vis plumbing issues. When I get to a problem I don't have an understanding of, I tell my manager "I'll be right back, have to go ask Uncle Roger"
@jamesclark5082
5 жыл бұрын
I have used pro press I love it it saves time yes fittings are pricey but so are shark bites I have seen shark bites leak I use pro press in renovation work and I am in situations where sometimes valves dont shut off all way and can still get the job done quickly. I love it
@mattmartin5136
2 жыл бұрын
Propress fittings are now available at Home Depot as well as propex-a
@petersmart1999
Жыл бұрын
2 words,JetSwet ! Used them for years,easy!
@jimmycreamer7905
4 ай бұрын
Soldering,brazing is an art. Done right joint will never fail, yes I’m 64 been doing it 45years. It has stood the test of time.LEARN TO DO IT,OR Take the easy way out! Yup old school. Didn’t the shuttle have a issue with a ORING
@firestarterfernie
4 жыл бұрын
The edits make it really entertaining to learn new things. Keep it up :)
@pauljohnson9853
5 жыл бұрын
Hey Roger, I am seriously thinking about making a career change to plumbing, because their are so many aspects that I like about it. Can you give advice on a couple that I'm worried about: -Crawl spaces: How often are you in them, and how safe, gross are they? -Diseases: How likely can someone get hepatitis, legionnaires, aids, etc? Do plumber's get shots to prevent this?
@peterschulties3258
4 жыл бұрын
Crawl spaces are typically pretty bad. The most important thing is that you use safety precautions like a quality mask. The other thing is you need to be in decent shape. The amount of time spent in a crawl space is different for every plumber. For me as an example, maybe 1 in 50 jobs. Disease....Yes we are vaccinated for Hep and Tetnis. Again saftey first. This trade is getting safer everyday. It's a very rewarding profession and we need more people entering the trades.
@BigDaddyLinux
4 жыл бұрын
We have been using pro press for a few months now and I love it. The only downsides are that the Milwaukee tool sometimes clamps on so tight it's almost impossible to get off the fitting without hammering it off (especially when using Pro Press to Rehau adaptors) and it's more expensive when mistakes are made in cutting the right size pipe and things are already clamped but I guess that's more operator error than anything else. Other than those two small things, Pro press makes my job a whole lot easier. Thanks for the video from a new sub
@RogerWakefield
4 жыл бұрын
BigDaddyLinux thanks for watching and commenting! I love the feedback and additional information! And, thanks for subscribing!
@mothman-jz8ug
3 жыл бұрын
I've used SharkBite pex tubing, Sharkbite cinch rings, SharkBite barbed fittings, and so on. They've always performed as well as other brands.
@kooale
9 ай бұрын
Good intro for the novice/uninitiated. MANY THANKS!
@mastersfan04
5 жыл бұрын
Im a service plumber in southern California. I like the convenience of propress, but i have noticed it doesn't do well with earthquakes. I have repaired numerous propress leaks, but i supposed those propress fittings may not have been done correctly.
@mikevila3715
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Roger, I have the Rothenberger press tool for A/C - Refrigerant, Plumbing & Black Iron Piping. It’s the best tool ever, but is not cheap to purchase.
@fuckinmatt6241
4 жыл бұрын
Im a plumber i feel the same as you i used progress in commercial work but residential id rather sweat my joints. But that being said. Megapress is far superior to threading gas pipe. A few months back i did two house next to each other about 3500 sq ft. Layouts were a little different But used about the same material on both. The first i threaded it took me and my helper A day and a half to do the first one and had a leak we had to find and fix. The second i decided to press and no joke it took us about two hours no leaks no issues. Yes the cost is substantial for the setup and the fittings but the time u save in labor makes it worth it , Not to mention if u rent the tool and the heads from the suppler for about 30 dollars a day. Id like to see a video on mega press vs threaded pipe .
@frankgrimes6771
4 жыл бұрын
You can press an open propress ball valve on a waterline w.FULL LIVE PRESSURE, then simply close the ball valve. Amazing system.
@RogerWakefield
4 жыл бұрын
Frank Grimes I like that so much better than sharkbite fittings! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@2dthoughts
4 жыл бұрын
Love Pro Press Was able to fix a leak live on an 1”1/2 or 2” line at a grocery store years ago Cut line, got ball valve on second attempt, after water shot it out of my hands first try Scary but worked perfect. Been sold since
@irishmike4914
Жыл бұрын
But $200 for a 2" propress ball valve compared to $45 kills me. The best $250 I spent on tools in the last few years was a jet sweat kit.
@2dthoughts
Жыл бұрын
@@irishmike4914 yeah I have an old Jet sweat kit But the ease and time saved is well worth the price to me Especially since the customer ultimately buy the parts I have the 2” jaws but only used them once in a supermarket. Was a live replacement because water couldn’t be shutoff. Worked great and never could have done it with a Jet sweat and torch
@HygroHybrid
Ай бұрын
I prefer solder. But like you said there are some instances with fire permits fire hazard scenarios where it can be valuable but I wouldn't look to it in every fix
@tyronelove82
2 жыл бұрын
Great incite, awesome since of humor.👍🏻
@centralcoastcamper9631
3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen an o ring that lasts forever.
@doug960
3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a piece of copper pipe last forever, either... Especially in low P.H. well systems. 50 years is more than acceptable. Most homes are overhauled and re-plumbed way more often than every 50 years anyway.
@isaiahyeates7816
3 жыл бұрын
Lol... I've seen leather o rings I've pulled easily 50+ years old. May not last to 200 years but I believe they will last a life time
@u82zar
Жыл бұрын
I don’t believe the O ring is what seals. I believe it’s the copper that’s fused together with the tool. The O ring is a “backup” from what I understand. I just used this tool and it’s the best recent tool invention. The connections I did aren’t going anywhere.
@josephdunnavant2898
Жыл бұрын
Never seen copper last forever either so what’s your point
@oilandfireguy1739
Жыл бұрын
@@u82zar I've heard the same thing. The copper males the seal. I also see solder joints full of corrosion on the regular.
@alfredocuomo1546
16 күн бұрын
What you're not addressing is the issue of residential copper pipe that is "M" rated thin wall that has a tendency to leak with propress harder copper fittings, they leak a lot almost like a sweet leak because the thin wall copper is crushing under the pressure of the harder fitting. This doesn't seem to happen on "K" & "L" rated commercial copper pipe.
@kalenbarker7891
3 жыл бұрын
Just saw it being sold at Home Depot this evening.
@MisterGreenGuy
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, they started carrying press fittings this year, but not when this video was made.
@ysfoz5684
8 ай бұрын
I see a lot of plumbers, mainly in UK, bending copper pipes, but in the US many use elbow fittings. Any comments on bending Vs. fittings?
@BC-sk3bp
5 жыл бұрын
Don't use much.. But when I do I love it. Especially for gas. Megapress oh yeah 😁
@in-textbaptist4947
5 жыл бұрын
Hey Roger. I was wondering if you could ever adress the math that comes with plumbing? From your perspective so far deep into the business, how neccessary is it? Do you really just need the basics or is it really as essential as our teachers back in high school made it seem to scare us into calculus?
@kirkpennell3028
2 ай бұрын
Induction heater no flame and the new ones work great
@GenoVictor
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Roger, for your video! Without question, you are the subject matter EXPERT!
@zuborpatrik3382
4 жыл бұрын
In Hungary, we do basically everything with press joints, and the satisfying noise of the machine itself.. absolutly worth it :)
@eyellgeteven9928
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I love that sound, especially when you are doing bigger stuff like 4" fittings. Propress is one of those things that almost every time I use it, I'm amazed by it and very thankful it was invented.
@andygoeler8178
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos....insightful and fun to watch!!!!
@RogerWakefield
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for commenting!
@frank3stangs
4 жыл бұрын
Just Bought a Rigid 241 kit and used it for the first time tonight!! I think I'm going to like it a lot!! ;-)
@carltondepeysterdepeyster5210
2 жыл бұрын
your editing and sincerity made me subscribe
@spenceryelinek4313
6 ай бұрын
Im gonna replace my houses plumbing and the company I work for has a few of the milwaukee press tools and will let me borrow it for the job. Sure, the cost is higher, but man its such a time saver and it looks great.
@mkl5448
3 жыл бұрын
I would invest in pex tools before pro press. I know you were not comparing those, but just saying. I just think in the next 10 to 20 years everything is going to be pex. I don't really agree with it, but that's where it's headed. Also the ProPress is really hard for tight quarters, but it does seems like a really great system.
@johnathonmcguire7738
Жыл бұрын
I know this video was awhile ago but home depot sells propress fittings now. thank you for the great information.
@jefftitterington7600
3 жыл бұрын
Keep on making videos (this unskilled homeowner loves them) and please - keep up the great editing!
@vanillasky4221
5 жыл бұрын
You plumbing worth it sir! Thank you for the informative videos and for the good laugh, most old bucks font have this kind of humor
@nakclahan6445
2 жыл бұрын
I got pro press n loving it
@joshcowart2446
4 жыл бұрын
It hurt seeing him toss that fitting. They ding so easy and that looked like a 2” 90 which is probably $30. The two things about pro press I don’t like is there’s something in the back of my mind that worries about that o ring long term. I don’t like any sort of gasket I can’t change. The other thing i don’t like is you can’t undo it. I can sweat off a fitting. Once something is pressed you have to cut behind the fitting which may be in the wall. Sometimes you can get the smaller sizes off. Lining them up is another issue. Sometimes when pressing they get turned the wrong way. I’ve been able to turn megapress fittings a little with a pipe wrench but copper is too weak.
@mx-lj4qq
3 жыл бұрын
On point
@scott19087
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Propress had its place, it's quick and easy to use. Compression is where it's at.
@paulallen-01
3 жыл бұрын
The gasket doesn’t make the seal. You could literally pull the gasket out and press the fitting and it still wouldn’t leak. How do you think that propress passes fire ratings?
@joshcowart2446
3 жыл бұрын
@@paulallen-01 that’s what they say but I’ve found that not to be the case. Go ahead cut your pipe with a band saw or sawzall then just just shove it in the fitting regularly and tell me how well the system does when you nick or snag that o ring.
@joshcowart2446
3 жыл бұрын
@@paulallen-01 on top of that, EPDM can be fire rated. Uponor pex is fire rated. They even make fire rated pvc. It doesn’t ha w to be metal rod be fire rate
@ryanmilliken3938
3 жыл бұрын
My company does a lot of commercial stuff and we started megapressing gas lines and most of the time can get them 100% done in 3 days vs threading taking a week +.
@hoth2o106
5 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that you can buy a chain cutter attachment for the propress to cut cast iron pipe up to 4 inches in diameter
@jimallen5867
Жыл бұрын
What is the best pipe type for a main water line and what type of underground fitting to the meter is best?
@Arpeman_Fi
Жыл бұрын
So how much each of them handle on - Presure - Vacuum - Heat - Cold - Temperature fluctuations - Pull stress - Push stress - Shaking stress - Test of Time Or what style of connection would you rather use on each of those stress
@markstokes7366
2 жыл бұрын
Roger my local HD has started carrying propress
@mobile507
5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful thanks Roger!
@firefighter72335
2 жыл бұрын
I use press. I love it. I have the small and large units with jaws that go up to 4in.
@IppiopaidFEEDBACK
2 жыл бұрын
I just started using pro press for the first time last week. I’m not a plumber, just a renovation laborer however I am assisting a plumber to do 300 hotel bathrooms for the next 4 to 6 months. Pro-press had been excellent, I feel like superman right now. The only question I have to ask is about cleaning the pipe that you are attaching it to. The pipe is dirty and dusty from being in the wall for over 35 years, do I need to clean that off like you clean off when you’re soldering? I know you have to takeoff all the burrs when you cut it and mark it before you press it together.
@josecarbajal6706
3 жыл бұрын
Press fittings are available at Home Depot. Zurn and Apollo
@txreal2
8 ай бұрын
What about what's better for the long term FOR THE CUSTOMER? HOW LONG WILL EACH LAST?
@irrelevant2235
2 жыл бұрын
How could ProPress be better than solder since the EPDM rubber o-ring inside of the ProPress joint will rot over time whereas there is nothing to rot in a soldered joint?
@mahtoe
Жыл бұрын
For the do it your self-ers, they do sell manual pro press fitting crimpers for around $150. You don't need to buy a $2000 battery operated crimper.
@williamknighton7416
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video I own my own ProPress it's in Milwaukee with heads up to inch and a quarter but I've never had to get anything larger than 1 inch and I've seen the megapress and I love the idea I've never actually used it but I hope someday soon as I get my hands on one so I can just as soon as my knee heals up like go back to work thanks again for the great video
@irishmike4914
Жыл бұрын
My friends and I are waiting for each other to but it. Nobody wants to be the guinea pig
@Matthiass721
4 жыл бұрын
I was given the mini Milwaukee propress tool with the 1/2,3/4,and1” jaws as a bonus when I signed on with my company, and I gotta tell ya, it really saves time and hassle on residential service work. I personally think it looks great too.
@DiegoRamirez-hn7yp
2 жыл бұрын
Hey man where can I get the tool im a service plumber and how much is it and also does Ferguson supply the fittings? Or homedepot
@DragonsRage
5 жыл бұрын
I used a pro press for the first time in school today! I think over time the pro press will be better as its electric so you don’t have to buy fuel
@fixerupperer
3 жыл бұрын
The cost of gas for the torch is a negligible consideration with all the other factors. The cost of flux is probably the only less important one.
@latenight6815
3 жыл бұрын
Yes but 1 fitting offsets the price of the fuel, Flux and some solder
@gersonpaiz100
2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos but I stick with welding I do general construction and I prefer the old school
@AskDoctorMurphy
8 ай бұрын
i've had to replace many soldered fittings that are above 35mm that have leaked within 5 years. I replaced with press fittings
@thomasjohnston5817
3 жыл бұрын
for 3" n above i LLLOOOVVEE pro press. i was one of the first to use it and test its easability. had a few hickups at first then was solid. under 3" id go aquapex all day.
@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr
2 жыл бұрын
I am a landlord, I fix almost all of my plums myself, I use pex and shark bites, my oldest repair is 15 yrs old , so far, so good!
@doinkstankhammer987
10 ай бұрын
I work on packaged pump systems that use sharkbites on some of the 1” connections, running 100psi and have yet to see one fail.
@richhuntsd12
9 ай бұрын
Cool video Roger. Just For my info. Where do you purchase Propress?
@adammartinez7384
Жыл бұрын
Hey Roger, can you use press tool on type m. Copper??? Or soft copper????
@mikeholt173
3 жыл бұрын
Pro press and uponor expansion pex is all I use barely ever take my torch out of the truck and zero leaks!
@samthesaxman4487
8 ай бұрын
7 Astronauts died because of defective o-rings on a space shuttle
@ericbaker8807
4 ай бұрын
To clarify, the data collected after the incident doesn't suggest the O-rings were defective. The data suggests they were used outside their safe operating conditions. Every material has a glass transition temperature. Get too hot, and materials become rubbery and not as effective. Get too cold and things become brittle. The morning of the launch, the ambient temperature was very low. Actually it was a record low if I remember correctly. This caused the O-rings to become brittle. Many engineers suggested delaying due to cold conditions.. but they launched anyways. Also, you're comparing apples to oranges here. Plumbing a hot/cold water system is just a tad different than sealing solid rocket booster combustion gases lol.
@frankgrimes6771
4 жыл бұрын
3:01 that omg got me 😂
@RogerWakefield
4 жыл бұрын
Frank Grimes which part? We are having fun and always trying to improve!
@frankgrimes6771
4 жыл бұрын
@@RogerWakefield i like the editing
@trbgeneralconstruction555
2 жыл бұрын
My wife said your edits are do good.
@sleektoneofficial
2 жыл бұрын
Ive had a brand new 1/2 in press tee leak from the gate i marked my depth my pipe went on the pipe no problem i think it was defective
@MrTooTechnical
4 жыл бұрын
Solder for life baby. Woohoo
@wb5mgr
3 жыл бұрын
The advantage of any crimp system be it propress or even pex is repeatability (especially by less experienced users) Connections will be done correctly every time with no issues.
@Prosecute-fauci
8 ай бұрын
Pro press isn’t just as good as solder at maximum working pressures, but at the pressures that you actually see in the world it is identical.
@tdobson888
9 ай бұрын
Everything has it's place I've used all systems depending on what was needed
@tallbrian100
3 жыл бұрын
I have seen leaking pro-press fittings, have also seen leaking solder fittings, burnt flux. Skilled plumbers are hard to come by.
@greenspiraldragon
2 жыл бұрын
Could someone do a burst test video on pro press water fitting?
@MONTES262011
3 жыл бұрын
Really good explanation tanks !!!!!!
@Vincerama
7 ай бұрын
For home owners, you can get manually operated propress tools for under $200, if you are so inclined.
@IBLaZeI47
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Roger would you recommend applying lubricant on O rings that's specifically for O rings for longevity.
@markpipenko988
3 жыл бұрын
Read manufacturer instructions. They are already lubricated
@StilettoSniper
2 жыл бұрын
I was a bit skeptical about ProPress, but after doing more research and working with the Ridgid tool and Viega fittings, I have come around to seeing this as a viable solution IF proper procedures are followed in preparation prior to crimping (which is the same logic for making a making a good solder connection). Unfortunately, KZitem is full of examples by "professionals" (and I use that term very lightly) that do not think it is necessary to clean, deburr and outer ream pipes at all when they are using Propress or Sharkbites. I was also skeptical about the quality of the water seal of ProPress versus Sharkbite, as both use an EPDM o-ring. HOWEVER, as shown in the following video, quality Propress fittings appear to seal not only with the o-ring but with the mechanical heavy crimp performed by the tool: kzitem.info/news/bejne/mJBuvYd8qqNiZno. Based on what is shown in this video, ProPress has a major leg up on Sharkbite in terms of water sealing, as a Sharkbite is 100% reliant on the EPDM o-ring alone. Remove the o-ring from a Sharkbite and install the fitting on the pipe, it will leak like a sieve. This video seems to show that is NOT the case with a properly installed ProPress fitting, at least the Viega and Nibco elbows tested here at 60 psi. Anyway, food for thought for anyone that believed (as i did) that ProPress and Sharkbite are identical in their water sealing capabilities since both use an EPDM o-ring. This video has made me stop and see that this is NOT the case, as Propress apparently has two systems (the heavy crimp AND the o-ring) that seal against water leakage while Sharkbite has only one. At least within the parameters of the test indicated in the linked video.
@traderpete007
3 жыл бұрын
What’s the best propress tool? Is it the rigid? Is it the Milwaukee? Is dewalt in the running with theirs? What would you get the pistol grip model or the newer straight one?
@NoahKuzel
3 жыл бұрын
So is upanor the PEX version of propress?
@fixerupperer
3 жыл бұрын
Menards, a large midwest chain, stocks and sells propress fittings here in Wisconsin. Not sure about the tools. I don't remember if I've seen them at Home depot. The tools have gotten cheaper the last couple years too. There's an M12 tool which will do 1/2,3/4 and 1" down to $600-$700 for the set including dies
@ImYourHucklebery117
5 жыл бұрын
I use the XL megapress fittings and I love them. No more waiting on Welding contractor 🎆
@johnnyrocket9372
2 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on the manual pro press tools. There is a hydrolic press about the size of small bolt cutters for around 90 dollars and a hand held with extendable handles for about 150 dollars. Both tool will do 1/2" 3/4" and 1". I do small home repairs so having a 2000 dollar tool would be pointless for me.
@p.b.9428
2 жыл бұрын
Home Depot has a “special buy” right now on the Milwaukee press tool with 3 different size clamps, 2 batteries, charger and “free” oscillating tool for just over $700.
@MrUraniumProductions
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats soldering copper joints.
@jacobkindsvatter4055
2 жыл бұрын
What is crazy is in colorado we have to use compression fittings or pro press in hospital new construction/service Hey roger do you share the same codes in your part of the country
@littlehuey5679
2 жыл бұрын
How do you remove the fittings if you need to make a changes
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