Fantastic job explaining in 6 minutes 39 seconds what I’ve tried to explain to patients for decades.
@limitedtime5471
2 жыл бұрын
One thing is for someone who isn't educated about science, they kind of do need to take what scientists say on faith if they lack the ability to evaluate things for themselves. Then they can confuse their personal deficit for a general one that everyone treats science as a bystander and true believer.
@alteredcatscyprus
2 жыл бұрын
No, not when they are corrupt
@limitedtime5471
2 жыл бұрын
@@alteredcatscyprus The point is it is a personal deficiency if you need someone else to tell you about science, whether it's good or corrupt, instead of learning to evaluate it yourself.
@alteredcatscyprus
2 жыл бұрын
@@limitedtime5471 That’s half the country now.
@marjoriecrawford8197
2 жыл бұрын
YES, Clay. I think most people are simply unwilling to admit just how much uncertainty there actually is. And I hate how "science" is becoming politicized.🙈 Also, I'd like to flag your older What is Belief video for anybody seeing this - it's great. It helped give language to things I am struggling with while going through religious deconstruction.
@getsmartquick
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Scientism is a bitch it was the plan of socialism/communism. That's why science is politicised
@serban2139
2 жыл бұрын
This is how I verified if calories in vs calories out work. I always use diet as an analogy to help people understand this. I've done keto, vegan, normal diets, carnivore diet, intermitent fasting, 6 meals/day. Guess what? They only worked because I was in a caloric deficit. The difference between those diets is what sort of lifestyle worked best for me and my psychology, but I understood the core concept. So this was a success. Yea, I know it's difficult for people to grasp the concept of "stop eating so much" if you wanna lose weight, but it is what it is. I think the problem with "scientific proof that this works" is some of the following: - did you consider the placebo effect of the specimen? - did you consider the nocebo effect of the specimen? - did you actually read the whole study and made an accurate interpretation of it?(holy shit how many people fail at this) - is the study actually accurate or someone get payed to skew the results?(this is where infjs among others shine because they verify by experience - is the study group controlled? aaaand soo many other issues.
@macoeur1122
2 жыл бұрын
Also...There is a quote attributed to Einstein that goes "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth" Whether Einstein truly said this I couldn't say...Most of the quote attributed to him are his, but I hear there are some out there online that aren't. Regardless, I like it.
@rayw3332
2 жыл бұрын
Great book that covers this: "Science and the Good: The Tragic Quest For the Foundations of Morality" Hunter & Nedelisky (2018)
@HenrikaArcana
2 жыл бұрын
Such a good summary of a fact what most people never want to even entertain.
@Teddybeloved
2 жыл бұрын
I love this, thank you for another insightful video.
@pavithraselvaraj4
Жыл бұрын
Wow. I should have discovered your channel sooner. 🥰
@patriciakersey5356
2 жыл бұрын
I apologise my comment is not about Science. What do you think about this personality type? Aspergers / INFJ combined. And married 45 years to a Covert Narcissist . At the same time I firmly believe I will win happiness in the near future
@simovtransportmedia1137
2 жыл бұрын
The universe is a two colored line. You can start from the left or from the right, but there's a point in which the two sector's impact each other. That's whre science and belief are becoming one single constelation and this come's to remind us that 5D and metaphisiscs really exist.
@addhoc256
2 жыл бұрын
Science as a belief is called "scientism". So you have race and racism, sex and sexisism etc. So race and sex exist but to distort them into a black and white way of thinking isnt the race or the sex or the whatever fault. We dont need to get rid of sex or race in order to stop tge discrimination: we just need to get rid of the -ism. So an .... -ism means you see your whole world through those eyes and nothing else. So you believe all the problems in the world are because of that: an -ism is all consuming and warping your perception: so that person cannot drive because she is a women, you cannot get a job because those with another race took your job etc etc: so everything is perceived through that lens: by individuals or by a government policy. So now we have scientism:. In reality science is the empirical method to test a hypothesis in order te figure out how something works so we can anticipate on it. But: not everything in the world can be measured that way but some things can, and it is very usefull. But it is just one method. It is not a way to organize the whole world: it is just one puzzle piece. It is a tool. A very usefull tool if it is embedded in its modest place in society controled by democracy. But now only science is abused right now also media. Science is put on such a pedistole the journalists do not find themself capable to check the facts and leave it up to "experts" in other words they hire a hand full of people to explain tbe world to them because it is "science" and therefore like woowoo nobody else can say anything about it because "you are not a virologist". But: anyone who has past even only the first year in university, in social sciences, is capable to read science research articles and interpret them. So if you study one science you can read the science articles of all other sciences they all have the same method you would not know the technical details but the whole research design you can see through. So Even if it is rocketscience: we can fly to the stars (but not back again): We pay the taxes so we decide if we want to take that risk or spend that money somewhere else: that is our decision. Everone who passed the first year module of scientific research methods: the empirical wheel" will be able to understand the research design behind a certain thesis. Most Big Pharma statistic "research" results arent even hypothisis tested. They come up with worlds like "double blind random tests" but that method only works within a system of hypothesis testing. Half the studies politicians use arent even science. And everone have passed the first year in university, anyone passing this module "what is science: and its methods": anyone must know what a crap is now going on. For example: research shows that once you are naturally immune you dont need the jab. And Covid was stopped by NK cells: therefore kids dont need the jab. There is sciencific consensus about that. PS about verification: the first science method is falsification: to proove yourself wrong: to go out of your way to look for ways to find many ways to proove your own hypothesis wrong: if this were true than this or that cannot be true and then you actively go out looking for that what would undermine your hypothesis. That method is adviced to study in totally new phenomenons: so if you see only white swans before you say "all swans ate white" you first actively go out there to see if there atent amy black ones. Because otherwise you would see a black big bird and think "that isnt a swan because it is black" so you will never spot a back swan that way So especially with new things we dont fundamentally understand yet: let all your students shoot your whole premisis as much as possible. That is common practise in science. But now they cancell all the falsification: they mock the scientists that are trying to falsificate: falsification is the first method of choice: only with that it makes sense to statistically verify as well. They blocked half the science now.
@beautyofislam8253
2 жыл бұрын
Please watch Quran and modern science by Zakir Naik.
@papiball9811
2 жыл бұрын
Antinatalism and abortion.
@dianabay971
2 жыл бұрын
Science is a cult. Lovely henley shirt, matching with the background colors. ))
@alteredcatscyprus
2 жыл бұрын
It is now.
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr
Жыл бұрын
Finally found someone else that thinks as much as I do. I've said this a lot.
@BarbaraMerryGeng
2 жыл бұрын
Science - is the method / s. used to gain perspective Scientists - are people who explore & research- a person, place or thing, concepts, ideas, etc. theory - is the result of findings > In long term - science is always open to new discoveries !
@anubhavforall
2 жыл бұрын
Well I observe Science as a philosophy , rationalised and backed through experimentation and mathematical logic. The very factor that binds the experimentation and mathematics is analysis of the aspects to the closest proximity of observation. The principles thus formed could be approximated at certain points wrt measurable reference points. Now these reference points lie endless in nature. It's not always necessary that a "speculated" principle comes true with a changed reference point. In that case , as more and more refined observations, principles and equations develop, Science grows. Science is about curiousity and understanding. Just staying that something is true because "Science" says without taking into concern the ever dynamic and increasing domain of it is kinda contradictory to me, atleast. Many people talk like that only. To be able to understand the evolution of concepts backed by the practicality of observation and experiment is what science originally is. I would have stuttered with the choice of words so please pardon me. And I thank Clay and the person who replied to the original comment of mine to make me rethink and use better way of explaination. Do educate me more if I sound wrong. Thanks! I was not actually sure as to in what exact context is belief system being talked about in the video, also when I saw that, it became clear. Also consider "Philosophy" in a neutral sense here. 🌻
@raycaster4398
2 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. Scientists do NOT "believe." Nor do they have "faith." Scientists accept or reject on evidence or the lack thereof. Abrahamic religionists (Judaism, Catholicism, Christianity, Islam, Mormonism) use emotion and feelings generated from their hardwiring resulting from forced indoctrination and brainwashing as youngsters, with a large dose of threat (withholding of everlasting bliss) or FEAR (of vindictive eternal hellfire damnation). Such religionists, inculcated with proprietary foundational religious tomes -- some thousands of years old(!), are immersed in and shackled by rules, dogma, scripture, tradition, ritual, family/peer pressure, and assumed authority. By the time they are adults, they are immune to the worldviews of others. Now, there is a "philosophy of science," thoughts or discussions on how, when or why science should be applied. Simply put and to summarize, science and technology (applied science) give the best hope of well being to the most. Abrahamic religion attempts to provide certainty via magical thinking and false promises. To scientists, the world looks exactly as it should with no God. Science is the same everywhere, in the US, Uganda, Belgium, Vietnam, etc.
@anubhavforall
2 жыл бұрын
@@raycaster4398 Thank you respected for giving more insight to me. I diligently accept that I am wrong. Actually I did a wrong choice of words and that definitely was giving a different meaning to the statement. Also I hadn't seen the video by then and thus was not sure in what context "Belief system" stands for here. I took it as "ideas/assumptions/hypothesis". I can't remove the comment because in that way your precious insight will also get deleted. Thus I have tried to edit it to the best way I could have expressed my thoughts then Greetings 🌻
@anubhavforall
2 жыл бұрын
@@absolutetruth3290 Your comment just brought a smile to me. Honestly it feels so liberating to accept our mistakes and improvise on them. And how beautifully you have captured this entire scenario into words. That's also quite rare these days - Genuinely encouraging and appreciating others for their little deeds. Yes, I hope such discussions happen, I hope we get to learn and expand our understanding. And I hope you have a great good life, everyone else as well. Again , thanks for your remarks. Greetings 🌻
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr
Жыл бұрын
You should look into flat earth. Find me those experiments for your spinning ball fantasy! I dare you! On the flip side, you can buy a Nikonp900 and see for yourself that it is flat.
@hugobloemers4425
2 жыл бұрын
There are lots of people I know, I could trigger with this video.
@alteredcatscyprus
2 жыл бұрын
Please do.
@ntsatori
2 жыл бұрын
Clay, you’re one of the most insightful INFJs out here. Thank you for your wisdom and for sharing it with us. I wondered if you could cover a video about Se and how to improve that function and what it looks like for an INFJ.
@macoeur1122
2 жыл бұрын
Isn't "peer review" an official part of the scientific method? I've always had very similar questions. I actually "like" true science...because I "need" to find the truth of everything (I think that's an INFJ trait) but there appear to be some problems with how the the general public is so ill informed on what true science really is that their eyes glaze over and they tend to feel they just have to accept a theory or some assertion if they're being told that it's "science"..In fact, I feel this tendency has been noticed and used by manipulators of all kinds both in public and private endeavors. But I don't "blame" true science...I just really need to verify things for myself before fully accepting them...which means I've got, pretty much, an infinite number of "unknowns" floating around in my consciousness. I've learned to be o.k. with not knowing. It's clear that most people are in a similar boat of "not knowing" ..the only difference being...they "believe" they do. People accept far too much of what they're told. It's just easier and not everyone really cares about getting at the the truth of anything they don't believe has an affect on them or their own personal sphere. This use to bother me a lot more than it does now. I'm really trying to be tolerant of "what is" to the degree that I'm able because, frankly, I realized how exhausting it is not to choose my battles carefully. BTW, it is so interesting that you're talking about the "appearance" of what the sun is "doing" as opposed to what's actually occurring there. I was just using that same metaphor yesterday evening when thinking about my ESTP sister and the way she is always so soooo confident in her ability to read the motives behind every action or comment from pretty much anyone and it hit me just yesterday after a family zoom meeting that what she does is really no different than people looking into the sky and "naming the obvious" back in the day when it was not yet known that it's the Earth that's spinning (and also rotating around the sun). The "obvious" based on Se is that the Sun was "coming up" in the East and "going down" in the west...and it was also "obvious" that the Earth was flat (still is to some folks! lol) The thing is, I believe because my sisters Se is so bleeping strong that very little else exists for her. She sees something and instantly "knows" what it is (or is truly convinced she does)...and I'm not saying this confidence comes from nowhere. I mean, she IS often correct. That's where she gets her ability to "get things done"..."manipulate her environment" etc...but there are some things that are "true" that are not obvious via the five senses. I don't even remember who it is that discovered the "actual" truth about the movement of the earth, sun, planets, etc.... (was it Copernicus?) but I have a hunch he was strong in Ni...It seems to me he would have to have an intuition about it in the first place in order to know how to directly confirm it.
@DarthTingleBinks
2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's possible to portray it as such, but no, it isn't. It is a method of experimentation to reach objective truth as best as possible without relying on unproven beliefs about the world. In fact, the only two ways science can in anyway be related with unproven beliefs is with hypotheses, which are then immediately tested for, either proving or disproving them until new evidence is found that points to the contrary, or the scientific findings can lead people to form their own personal beliefs based on scientific information. For instance, if someone lives in a country or region in which snow has rarely ever fallen, or has never fallen once, they would likely believe that snow wouldn't fall the next time Winter comes. But while this belief has sufficient reason behind it, it is technically also a hypothesis, and will be proven or disproven when the next Winter comes. Edit: So technically everything unproven belief or thought in relation to science are hypotheses. That said, while it can lead to beliefs being formed, it doesn't serve much of the functions that belief systems provide, such as moral or ethical standards. Science isn't concerned with subjectivity, it is concerned with objectivity, and even then, there are certain aspects of science that are very hard to explain in an objective way, such as psychology.
@Gobble_de_Goop
2 жыл бұрын
Crazy times we're living in, huh? *le sigh* Stay strong, my fellow INFJs! ❤🙌
@alteredcatscyprus
2 жыл бұрын
Dangerous times.
@madamecurious
2 жыл бұрын
Very well explained.Thank you!!
@gavinr5576
Жыл бұрын
Science isn't a belief system, but Scientism is and it's an extremely popular world-view.
@raycaster4398
Жыл бұрын
"Scientism is the opinion that science and the scientific method are the best or only way to render truth about the world and reality." (Wikipedia) People can have excess TRUST in science. But no, belief is not part of science. Belief is part of religion. One could say that an "-ism" approximates a "religion-like" worldview, But again, religion involves belief in the supernatural and/or a supernatural being, which is not part of science. As a scientist in the medical field with plenty of experience, I can say that the scientistic view is correct as there is zero evidence of God, heaven, hell, souls or afterlife.
@divebombglobal
8 ай бұрын
There's no such thing as scientism.
@Gen_X
5 ай бұрын
Clay, from your perspective, what is science's explanation of transgenders?
@razaullah9813
2 жыл бұрын
He is like Muslim
@ClayArnall
2 жыл бұрын
That’s a strange thing to say
@victorzurkowski2388
Жыл бұрын
Brave incursion into epistemiology of science (the "probability of the Big Bang" is not a thing).
@slottibarfast5402
2 жыл бұрын
for better or worse the world that advanced countries ( not a moral judgement) live based on science. Material science has developed sophisticated metals, plastics and so in. Medical science has tested the many medical procedures and medications in outcome studies which because of the nature of the human body are always subject to revision, computer science has given us all kinds of machines to extend our mental capacities. and so it goes. Science works on probabilities which may seem like faith except most of our observations of data show that the math involved in predictions of the rightness of scientific conclusions are correct 95% or more of the time. That does not mean that scientists are right even most of the time but that they can only publish a conclusion when it meets certain criteria of proof with a high ( but not certain) probability.
@tonyoliva8488
2 жыл бұрын
You really get it!
@kritidarshni4946
2 жыл бұрын
I watched few of your videos. One of them is on y u left Christianity. I found it interesting. Now I'm curious to know what are your views on Dr. Ian Stevenson's and Dr. Brian Weiss's research. Hope u can make a video on that.
@ClayArnall
2 жыл бұрын
What part of the research are you referring to?
@nay.sen20
2 жыл бұрын
I think she is referring to the Reincarnation part of the research.
@72Yonatan
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent topic and commentary, Clay. It's a privilege to hear an intelligent discussion about the topic. I remember my initial shock in my first year of college biology when the teacher made a teological statement at the beginning of his lecture, and when I raised my hand to challenge him, he quietly pulled me aside after class and asked me not to confront him again since he was aware that he had made a literal blooper. He said that his statement wasn't intended to be understood except as a metaphor.
@DTheHAge
2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that people talk about thinks they don't know. Or in my opinion the problem is that we care about fools. Peer reviews are the antidote to believing in something. Another point of science is that if you put out a thesis (=theory), than it's more like "Can't proof this wrong, can you?".
@bonjour4016
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Clay. I am an INFJ in a relationship with a narcissist. I am hoping you can create a video on how to walk away in a relationship in such situation? I remember you mentioned it happened to you in the past, so you must know how hard it is. Thank you and more power to your channel.
@T216-n3h
2 жыл бұрын
Belief implies doubt. Scientifically proving something doesn't. Seems like common sense but it's not so common
@thomasnicolai628
2 жыл бұрын
How would you prove something scientifically? What counts as proof?
@HunterM09
2 жыл бұрын
As a nurse and an atheist, I think one of the funniest things is going through an undergrad program that heavily emphasized evidence-based practice, yet most people I went to school with believed in some sort of god/religion and still do even after.
@rayw3332
2 жыл бұрын
Cognitive dissonance, intellectual dishonesty, and compartmentalization of brain. In their defense, some of those scientists, just like a lot of us former Christians, have been *badly frightened and scared by the idea of heritable (into perpetuity by a mean vindictive god!!) original sin -- such absurdity.* But mostly because of the *threat* of hellfire eternal damnation (even small children -- which is a form of child abuse!). Also, there are some scientists that continue to go to church out of tradition or to honor their wife or family who attend services, and there are some that have not found a satisfactory equivalent in secular services.
@72Yonatan
2 жыл бұрын
@@rayw3332 - The Hebrew bible does not have a doctrine of "original sin." Any individual pays for his own crime and not the crimes of his father or others. Christian community has read far more into the bible than it should.
@david_oliveira71
2 жыл бұрын
I think you haven't yet uploaded all 23:35 minutes, and are waiting for that to happen, or make it in parts; part 1, etc - not? @Clay Arnall
@ClayArnall
2 жыл бұрын
Copy paste error! Thanks for the heads up.
@david_oliveira71
2 жыл бұрын
@@ClayArnall Alright, wondered already! Glad to help man!
@raycaster4398
2 жыл бұрын
@@ClayArnall I like the shorter uploads.
@15.azamsiddiqui54
2 жыл бұрын
first
@hugobloemers4425
2 жыл бұрын
Show the data. Maybe someone else put that down before you but then deleted it because it was such a juvenile thing to do.
@AmberPearcy
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I don’t know much but it’s all theory, right? Math? How can we be so certain about anything when we are constantly finding new theories?
@user-dm1ew3gg6e
2 жыл бұрын
well thats also a thing about science, if scientists see that their theories were wrong they either ajust them or they find new theories, that doesn't mean that these theories couldn't be helpful for a while and maybe they even let to the new theories. As Clay says it is a basic necessity in science that you either can verify or falsify theories, therefore scientific theories also need to be free of circular arguments. Science is always only an approximation to reality based on human perception
@thomasnicolai628
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-dm1ew3gg6e In practice not so much, scientists are filled with dogma, and the scientific community dismisses counter-examples to established theories. Thomas Kuhn shows this in his book "the structure of scientific revolutions"
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