13:00 - While it’s true that Wangnan doesn’t know Violes friends he does know Viole. At this point in time they have been living together in the same apartment that Viole rented for about 2 months (which in reality means he knows them at least as long as he knows group from season 1 if not for longer,timeline on wiki says season 1 lasted for about a month in tower time). It’s weird that anime never specified how much time has passed since they are together. 15:00 - again not really explained greatly in the anime,but Urek did tell them that they can not get the flower since there is only one and that they will have to fail (forget) the test and he will let them go. 16:50 - they’ve sent regulars there because Viole is part of the group and he is Slayer Nominee that they would like to get rid off. 22:45 - he absolutely was holding back against Viole. He probably didn’t use even 0.1% of his power. SIU later in the blogpost admitted that it was wrong to make Viole be able to cut Urek since at this point of the story it should not have been possible. 30:00 about irregulars. It’s something that anime didn’t explain very good. But irregulars are so rare in fact that nobody even thinks about meeting one. You could live your whole life (which in tower is thousands of years for rankers) and never see one. It’s hard to really say how small are the odds but something close to 1 in 20 billion people (that’s not really an ass pull number it’s more of a calculation,but I don’t want to spoil number of irregulars in the tower)
@germangallardo7732
28 күн бұрын
In the manhua we had a lot of lore explaining Irregulars in S1, like there are only 14-15 known Irregulars in the tower. Each tower floor is the size of america, with its respective population, and there are over a hundred floors. In ALL of that only 14-15 people are known to be Irregulars. (Also the normal climbing time in the tower is 2000 to 5000 years, Mazino has the record (given early in the story), he took 50 years to climb)
@masxrom2935
28 күн бұрын
its not in the manhwa. that info actually from SIUs blogpost that put together by scanlation team at that time (before EN official WEBTOON created). if u read it at official webtoon there is no such information.
@germangallardo7732
28 күн бұрын
@@masxrom2935 oh, maybe I remember it shown while reading at the bottom of the chapter (several years ago).
@Nightdreaux22647
29 күн бұрын
George: 2 years to climb 9 Floors?? How hard is this tower?? Graham: How did they age?? The age is not a thing?? Information: The anime S1 skipped the scene where Anaak telling Endorsi about the age of Princess Yuri and that Yuri is a genius that finished climbing within just centuries period. (Hundreds of Years). I think the anime also does a poor job highlighting that shinsu slow down aging.
@supersonic159
29 күн бұрын
Wow this sounds like absolutely Vital Information that's been left out
@Nightdreaux22647
29 күн бұрын
@@supersonic159 yeah the anime is allergic with TOG world setting and power system, they just don't explain. S1 also skipped ranker Quant (red haired examiner, black skin) saying to Baam that it took him ""DECADES"" (+10 YEARS) to learn this specific skill that seemingly can stop/freeze time or stop movement of a person.... And also a lack of reaction when Baam can just learn that same skill with just one blink of an eye.
@claireierullo5948
28 күн бұрын
On the topic of irregulars, the literal first or second chapter of the entire series showed Yuri rushing to the first floor to see who the irregular was with Evan. That scene and the banter within it definitely helped define how rare the event was and how absurd it was that Bam seemed ordinary
@germangallardo7732
29 күн бұрын
To give an analogy of how unbelievable abysmal is the difference in power between Bam and Urek, think of a gun vs the whole concentrated power of the sun ( like literally compress the sun and attack with it).
@Filimaua13
28 күн бұрын
The way I like to explain the power level difference between Bam and Urek to someone is by saying "imagine a baby trying to fight the hulk in his full angry form." Yeeah there's literally no chance there lol
@jhoantf10
28 күн бұрын
Btw another detail skipped on episode 7 was that as soon as Urek mention the Opera it is explained "there are only 3 operas in the whole tower and they are the strongest Lighthouses created" Also this is mostly me bc I haven't see anyone else complaining about it but when Jinsung Ha was talking to Karaka about how he left his family for FUG that panel in the whole manwa is one of the most terrifying ones and they gloss over that panel in the anime (webtoon #115 for anyone interested)
@koenigsraster37
28 күн бұрын
The arrival of an Irregular is a once-in-several-lifetimes event. I think one can compare its importance to the real world events like the industrial revolution, the fall of the Roman empire or the moon landing. Season 1 episode 2 had Lero-Ro (ranker and test instructor) explain things to Bam, but the anime staff decided it would be a good idea to cut these crucial explanations short and to overlap them with another dialogue (another test taker complaining about the difficulty of the water-wall test and getting off'd). Another important part that the anime cut, would have otherwise happened in season 1 episode 1. In the anime Yuri jumpkicks Bam out of nowhere. In the webtoon she rushes to the first floor specifically to witness an irregular entering the tower - the event of the millenium. Tower of God is meant to be a mystery-show, so there are and will be questions asked and answeres revealed later. However, watching your reactions, I think you guys are twice as confused as you're supposed to be. Season 1 covered 79 chapters in 13 episodes. Season 2 (cour 1) will probably cover 56-58 chapters in 13 episodes. Season 1 cut way more content, laying a bad foundation for season 2. Some things that have been said, but I think you guys glossed over: -S2E4: Wangnan's old teammates gave up climbing on floor 20, that's why he didn't have a team. This floor is such a bottleneck that original teams typically don't make it. Nia was also abandoned by his old team. And in S2S1 Wangnan insinuates that this is also what happened to Miseng. -S1E2: The population lives in the (outer) tower. Headon (bunny-shark) choses some of those people to climb the tower. They are henceforth called 'regulars'. So everyone was born inside the tower. -S1E2: Lero-Ro "Shinsu can make you immortal" This is to be taken literally. Given the most conservative definition of 'immortality', you should at the very least assume that some people stopped aging. S1E6: Yuri Jahad is at least 500 years old. S2E1 Yuri is considered a 'child' One thing that has not been said in the anime but you guys figured it out: Webtoon chapter 1: Headon (Bunny-shark): "There is (at least) one test on each floor"
@Cibanti
28 күн бұрын
Your frustrations I think are valid. I share some of those with you myself. BUT I want to give them the whole of season 2 before casting a judgement... They could always explain certain things at a different point than the source material (as long as they do it right) and show more stuff that they may be skipping in some other way. After all written and audiovisual formats and target audiences are very different. I think, for example, that if the anime took the same pace as the webtoon, people would get mad impatient and bitch about how slow season 2 is. Damn even in the webtoon a lot of people bitched about exactly that during these arcs... As someone who works face to face with customers, sometimes you can't win no matter what LOL. For all I know certain concepts ain't really important until much much later in the story so they may be thinking "we'll explain it when we get there" (which may as well be season 5 or something lol)
@Kunal-ghosh-i6c
27 күн бұрын
Wangnan's team was burned by yihwa . Every contestant was burned and died in the test but only ja wangnan survived
@mejestin
28 күн бұрын
Lero to said baam is a monster, of course he didn't knew he is irregular. Much often in the tower you may meet a monster potential rather then irregular. Irregular os most likely the rarest being to meet in the tower, and usually they the strongest beigns
18 күн бұрын
16:25 they knew SOMETHING dangerous was inside the Zygaena, killing their rankers. I don’t think they knew it was fricking Urek Mazino, or if they did, they were severely underestimating Urek. (He’s the real deal basically.)
@Cibanti
28 күн бұрын
Mmmhhh I could see why you could find weird that Wangnan seems to care about Viole and his friends so much... But, personally, I think it fits what we have seen so far of his character. A lot of people in the Tower seems to suffer from either trust issues or attachment issues and a lot of times both (Khun has huge trust issues, but the moment he found someone he felt he could trust, like Baam, he got attached to him like glue). Wangnan seems the type to attach himself rather quickly to people, we saw it with Nya. Like how much did they know each other? But they formed a strong bond really fast becuase they both felt lonely. Also while Wangnan seems the type to easily lose himself in vices and needs a constant high motivating factor for his drive to be at his peak, he also comes across to me as someone who cares about people (the times when we've seen him more motivated and drived to do his best is when people have been in danger after all), so I can see that after hearing about Viole's predicament and his friends his empathy probably kicked in high gear mode. I know it would happen to me, I don't even need to know your friends, not even the person in question that well either, you come to me with something like that in distress and bitch my empathy and protective instinct will run me over LOL. Also time in the Tower passes really different from ours. Due to the shinsu in the environment, regular ass people live hundreds of years and the more powerful you are (the more shinsu you can withstand/ have) the more years you live, oh and they age at a very low rate and again the more powerful you are the lower and lower rate that you age (like aging is not technichally stopped, but it's so slowed that in practice it may as well be). Rankers live for thousands of years, and High Rankers even more. So for them a few years is kind of like not that much at all. Have in mind that any amount of time passing they show in the anime it's probably a lot longer in reality; tests take months or even more to set up and people may take months or even years and years of time between tests (some train, some relax, some try to do both). To put it in perspective King Zahard climbed the Tower and started reigning tens of thousands of years ago and the dude is still very much kicking and powerful. And the same goes for the Heads of the 10 Great Families. Which is why Khun Aguero's statement in episode 5 of wanting to take Khun Eduan's title and become the Head of the Khun family is kind of insane cause that means going against a literal monster of an individual. But I mean who knows people of the Tower do tend to gain power with time and climbing, so maybe at some point he gets there lol. It may take him thousands of years, but if all goes well he will have those and more so... Best of luck Khun Aguero Agnes.
@Cibanti
28 күн бұрын
Every floor has a test, yes. Zygaena's test was in floor 21. Normally a floor has a single test and that's it. There are some floors that have several harder-than-usual tests instead of just the normal difficulty one. The 2nd floor and the 20th floor are examples of these special floors with several tests. Also Ha Jinsung (Baam's martial arts master) is indeed a Ranker, a High Ranker to be precise (same as Princess Yuri). And Rankers aren't Regulars (anymore) the terms exclude each other so to speak. You start as a Regular (someone who is climbing the Tower) and when you reach the floor King Zahard is in then you are granted the title of Ranker and as a Ranker you can achieve the title of High Ranker if you're strong enough. Irregular is a whole different term which is someone from an outside world of the Tower to whom the Tower has opened its doors sensing their power and desires. They use the term "their power has forced open the doors of the Tower" because it sounds edgier, but really it's more the Tower itself selecting to whom it opens its doors for; or at least that's how I interpret it through the facts we've seen... After all Baam himself never "forced" anything to open; some huge ass doors just appeared, they opened, we saw a visual of a gigantic ghostly hand reaching to grab him and suddenly he got transported to the 1st floor of the Tower. That feels like the will of the Tower to me more than the will of the individual in question.
@Kunal-ghosh-i6c
27 күн бұрын
The 10 great families and king zahard made immortality contact with the administrator So they cannot killed by any inhabitants of the tower. Zahard made his king contact with the administrator so any inhabitent of the tower cannot kill him or even harm him including the family heads
@cristoscoutroupis2567
23 күн бұрын
I highly suggest that you start watching some breakdowns of episodes cause yes a lot of important information was lost in adaptation. And I highly recommend you watch some ani news videos about tower of god just to see what you anime onlys are missing out on don't . Also yeah read SIU blog posts cause something's are straight up not explained in the web toon but they are explined in the web toon
@remliqa
28 күн бұрын
You are right that they left out a lot of foreshadowing on how terrifying Irregulars were in the Tower by skipping a lot from the webtoon in season one of the anime. For example the webtoon name dropped two other known Irregulars in the Tower, Enryu The Red and Phantaminum, both considered stronger than Urek Mazino . This is what they cut in season one . Enryu got his name because his shinsu is so overpowering that the entire sky turn red when he's around. It is said that he can create life itself. His most infamous feat is when he destroyed an entire floor and even killed the floor admin that tried to stop him. Yes, he killed the god-like floor admin . They don't ' say much about Phantaminum in season one but they do mention his feat . He single-handedly attacked Jahad's Palace , confronting the entirety of Jahad's forces . He mowed through them , killing countless high rankers including Great Family members and even Jahad Princesses, only stopping after confronting by King Jahad himself. Both Enryu and Phantaminum are still alive somewhere in the Tower.
@remliqa
28 күн бұрын
Wangnam didn't' have a team on floor 20 because he's a loser goody two shoes guy that got abandoned by his team. This is the same core of all the of his current member . Yihwa can't control her shinsu, Miseng and Goseng are too weak to be accepted by any team. Arkrapteror and Kang Horyang have their own issues that make them loners , both too spoiler-ish to revel now. As Arkraptor said to Yihwa in episode 6, they all are are defective in their own way. Prince in the only one who doesn't have that baggage, but as you can see by his personality, he can never reach the top on his own with his attitude.
@remliqa
28 күн бұрын
I don't want to spoil too much but there are a lot of team synergistic tactics and strategy that can be employed if you are in team with defined positions . I hope the show can show more of these.
@remliqa
28 күн бұрын
I forget to add that The baby Zygaena already have a flower on him so it already have all the food sustenance it need, no danger of it dying from hunger. The only danger it could face is being hunted by the Yeon family due to the flower that it have, but tough ;luck with that since it is under Urek Mazino's protection.
@Kunal-ghosh-i6c
28 күн бұрын
@@remliqa wangnan wasn't abandoned by his team his team was burned by yihwa . Yihwa burned everyone in the test except ja wangnan
@remliqa
27 күн бұрын
@@Kunal-ghosh-i6c No, you're wrong here. None of the people Yihwa burned were affiliated with Wangnam. The manhwa go into more detail but I suggest you rewatch the episode in which Nia died on what happened to hi actual team.
@mejestin
28 күн бұрын
In season one we were on kidden garden floor.. no reason to mention organisation to bunch of babies
@mejestin
28 күн бұрын
Why the tests dosnt focus on the possitiobs such as scout or spear bearer? Since its not the first floors everyone learned their position so tests moved on
18 күн бұрын
55:30 Aztec dubstep? Is this a JoJo’s reference? 😉
@remliqa
28 күн бұрын
A little lore snippert about how old people in Tower of God. One the Ten Great Families in the Tower is The Hendo Lok family. This great family have the largest number children but the fewest amount of rankers because of they were cursed with a very short lifespan. Because it could take decades or more to climb The Tower ,Hendo Lok family members tends to die of old age or became too decrepit before reaching the top. You see , except for their immortal patriarch , Hendo Lok clan reached old age at 80 and could not live past a 100 years . Yes, dying of old age at 100 years old is considered dying very young in the Tower.
@mejestin
28 күн бұрын
Urek floor is 77th It takes years to climb few floors even to talented climbers... Blog post said urek mazino when he climbed he did so maybe faster then anyone before and still it took him 50 years. By the way urek is so ancient.. thousands of years old. I feel you how you complain about the different story structure then season one but trust the story teller, it's still siu story and still goated even if things changed... Wangnan said few episodes ago he will climb seriously and then skip training, it has 2 main reasons 1. Since viole joined the others try to train harder then before 2. Since the season started it been nearly half year Even if wangnan super serious after some time if nothing urgent happens he will rest sometimes, as his personality point Hatz for example is someone I can imagine training seriously even after a long time.
@RancorSnp
28 күн бұрын
Most of the confusion you guys have comes from Season 1 anime being a very poor adaptation of the source material, so now that season 2 is referencing things you should have known from season 1 - it becomes more difficult to understand. Thank god we changed studios so Season 2 is actually watchable for manhwa readers
@cristoscoutroupis2567
23 күн бұрын
1:00:55 bro there are 700+ chapters trust me things haven't really gotten started yet and the team stuff is extremely important for later arcs . Also to answer your question about team setup that's gonna happen in the hell train arc the next arc after workshop battle. 1:01:28 you don't start test with teammates you have to gather teammates as you climb and sometimes people are left behind that's what happened to wangnan he got left behind. 1:02:07 or it's explained later because there are 700+ 😆 . I don't if this is your first time watching an anime with more that 25 episodes but you guys are really impatient . These are questions that will be answered later so right now just enjoy the ride well it's kinda hard to with this lame animation. Tower of god has to be one of the most unlucky stories out there and not just because of its animation.
@CamoraGhoul
28 күн бұрын
Season 2 is straight up bad. The animation looks done by AI interns 90%. There are so many shots of characters without their mouths shown to just show a still image with motion lines. It is very frustrating that this was what took 4 years and some change for them to get to. All the more frustrating because out of the 630+ chapters, this is some of the BEST content...but they jump from one scene to the next without giving any time for new information to settle or come to life. It feels like the anime is telling the viewers how to feel without allowing interpretation. But what will they not tell you? That Viole and the gang have been together for months at this point, because you cannot just take a test whenever so they had to wait. Now will the anime show this or just speed run the series and make it feel like a single afternoon has passed...well I think we can tell. Then there is the music. Man the music sure is good when we get to listen to a track for more than 5 seconds I guess, but that is all the time they get with these scene transitions, so it makes sense. (Note: it does not make sense.) I really do not want to be so negative, as I am a reader and even read the scans for the chapters and I love ToG. So I am invested, and when given such a lackluster adaptation it really is disheartening. This has a massive fan base, so I am just confused more than anything as to how this happened?? Actually kind of impressive how fumbled this bag is.
@fansheroshonen7005
28 күн бұрын
The floor 77 37:54
@germangallardo7732
28 күн бұрын
Shinsu increases lifespan in units of thousands of years, and high-rankers are pretty much immortal.
@mateuszasocha332
28 күн бұрын
The amount of questions you guys asked this time that were literally answered 5min ago in the episode or were made obvious is too much :D but yeah its still true that the anime lacks explanation compared to the webtoon, they made explanation much better in hunter x hunter anime for example
@germangallardo7732
28 күн бұрын
Tower of god is basically a Korean One piece, the story follows the exploration of the world. Politics ARE important but they will not directly impact our Mc this early in the story. The tower is divided in three parts, outer tower (where most of the population reside), inner tower where regulars (Bam counts as a regular, he is an irregular in the tower but a E level/rank regular towerclimber, once he finishes climbing he would be an irregular Ranker) climb the tower and a middle transition area. Each floor has a test, but the test on some floors become exponentially harder to match the rank increase of the regulars, for example in season one everyone was a F rank regular and after floor 20 they become E rank regulars. Another thing to understand is that not every floor required a team before floor 20, but a lot of floors onward will. Team matches are the common standards from now on. The floors from 2 to 19 are like a tutorial, if you survive them you reach the first bottleneck, pass it and you become an E rank regular, fail and you remain F rank.
@Darko4-c
29 күн бұрын
First irregulars are very rare, you don't see them walking on Street out of nowhere. Second they are all way too powerful and on another level literally they are so op that in season 1 leroro said "everytime a irregular comes to tower, they bring disaster to the tower. Third Many people in tower might live and die in tower without knowing they are in a tower or they can go to other floors, people in 21st floor worship that whale thing and that floor is their whole world. Fourth urek mazino is literally ranked ( retracted information my bad )in the whole tower and thats why he is calling himself one of the strongest being in tower because he is. You guys don't remember things from season 1 because you are watching weekly and you forgot, they made very clear that irregulars are crazy strong and rare. We are not even 200 chapters in out of 600+ chapters of mahwa and out of all those chapters i can only think of (retracted information it was clearly a minor spoiler, what was i thinking) irregular in tower so yeah seeing a irregular out in wild is crazy I don't usually comment but this reaction triggered me to ramble about all this Can u tell i am a manhwa fan😂 They did rush the hell out of this season 😭 it's sad tbh. I hope they don't fuck up the remaining episodes idk how much anime will cover but i hope for the best.
@TheAnimeClub159
28 күн бұрын
Just saying that Irregulars are rare doesn't mean it's properly conveying that feeling to the viewer. A good story needs to build and convey that information through many different ways, so that the viewer believes it as much as the characters. It just doesn't feel like the anime did a good enough job of that, especially when they've done so many other things very well, especially in season 1. Poignant rambling thoughts are always great, thanks!
@Darko4-c
28 күн бұрын
@@TheAnimeClub159 maybe I am mixing anime and manhwa, in terms of what information they provided in season 1
@СергейМакеев-ж2н
28 күн бұрын
@@TheAnimeClub159 It was pretty obvious by Lero Ro's behavior in Season 1, that he has never seen an Irregular with his own eyes, even though he's one of the people in charge of letting new climbers into the Tower. I think that sort of conveys how rare they are.
@masxrom2935
28 күн бұрын
so do you think the anime ruin this series? as a manhwa reader TOG anime is good enough for me.
@masxrom2935
28 күн бұрын
@@TheAnimeClub159 don't think too much about it just enjoy the show, the anime did good enough actually.
@mejestin
28 күн бұрын
Question, you know basm is irregular therefore he born to be OP main character in the future. You like or hate this idea?
@Lorithan
28 күн бұрын
Yeah, this season isn't quite living up to my expectations. The pacing is bad, and the animation is a bit stiff. I'm hoping it improves for the upcoming Workshop Battle arc that Hwa Ryun pointed them towards, though.
@Darko4-c
28 күн бұрын
This season animation is clearly bad i agree on that note totally. Episodes are rushed and because of rushed episodes, music is bad 😞 like what can Kevin Penkin (has composed the soundtracks for tog season 1, made in Abyss) do, On one scene tragic traumatic things are happening and 3 sec later character are happy go lucky. Like you can't play sad music here if scenes are changing that fast and plot progression is this fast. Kevin penkin is one of my favourite composer but he can only do so much 💀 His music truly shines at slow and emotional scene like season 1 Rachel's betrayal and all the score in made in abyss. Btw off topic, what are the chances that you guys going to watch made in abyss next.😂
Пікірлер: 52