This isn’t to callout one, or any specific person, but rather the community. Too many people are stuck on this notion of “XYZ person said MY character isn’t a good character so that’s why I lose” which isn’t true. As said in the video, unless you’re COMPETING in tournaments, tier lists should be one of the last things you worry about. A lot of the player base are casual/intermediate players and the difference between them and those that regularly place high in tournaments is staggering, and I’ve felt that difference firsthand. Create your own opinions with things YOU’VE EXPERIENCED firsthand, not because some top player or your favorite KZitemr said so. I’ve been guilty of doing this myself and it’s something I have to remind myself of, but don’t let it get to your head. Rather, just take their opinion and understand where they’re coming from and create your own judgement with things that you find in your own experience of playing the game/character. That’s all
@charlesthompson5645
3 ай бұрын
Facts heard thinking takes out games faster than ever. People tend to hate things to create drama
@Deeplasher
2 ай бұрын
I am a elder god sub player and you have to play the game smarter than everyone to have a chance so he’s bad sure worst character probably not ❄️
@edd4131
3 ай бұрын
Sub is a scrub killer, when you get into higher ranks, his wins feel like you’re sweating your balls off 😭
@mBountyHunter
3 ай бұрын
That’s what I said on my comment the gap between casual/intermediate compared to tournament level players is a big difference, so when people make tier lists, it’s assumed to be played at the HIGHEST levels of play where they know the ins and outs and the character and the match up. Even me messing around in this video I still lost lol
@turbopow3r
3 ай бұрын
people be goofy af lmao
@semionsonnik5875
27 күн бұрын
Tbh subzero is literally nothing But a counter pick character. Wile every character can throw out random shit all the time sub can only rely on the opponent fuking up to win
@mBountyHunter
26 күн бұрын
In most cases yeah but I would say with how characters are handled now, especially with Kameos, he can be a pretty good pick now
@solemvow6281
3 ай бұрын
I feel like sub is a delicate character. His special kit is VERY good, everything he has is a combo starter and opponent stopper. But its just scaled to oblivion and has massive gaps and negative frames. Either remive the gaps or make it hit harder. Both are hard because his specials are so good
@mBountyHunter
3 ай бұрын
Yeah the scaling is definitely an issue with him but it’s also hard to balance because if they go too much in the other direction he’ll be super strong
@lunarologist
3 ай бұрын
he is good for any casual player which can be correct for many characters in this game. those tier lists are used to show what’s good in tourney
@Weezynya
3 ай бұрын
Well i written this and nobody replied bcz sub player are coping"Everyone cries over sub having 24 frame B-2 that can be cancelable, IF it hits leads to full combo, SAFE DIVE KICK THAT LEADS TO METERLESS COMBO, FULL SCREEN ICE BALL EX BALL IF YOUR NOT STUPID DELETES PROJECTILE BTW. . Meanwhile NItara having 28 frame B-2 Need meter to COMBO, NEED METER TO CANCEL , VERY ARE TO CANCEL INTO KAMEO, UNSAFE DIVEkick Need METER WTF? HAS 53 ? frame MID SCREEN? projectile need blood sacrifice to DO so nobody does that move CAN BE CANCELABLE IF YOU MANAGE TO DO IN FIRST PLACE. HIGH WAKE UP? NRS atleast give her db2,db4 armor jesus IT"S IS STUPID WHEN IM ANTI-AIRing i'm THE ONE WHO's GETTING ANTI-AIRED STFU. Her best move is B4 cancelable IF THAT IS NOT EVERY CHARACTER IN THE GAME DOESN't DO THAT AND STILL NEEDS AN METER NRS. IF I SHE DOESN't GET ANY CHANGE's END OF KP1 IM SWITCHING character. FCKING PLAYING EVERY MATCH WITH HANDICAPED IS HORRENDUOS. after seeing homelander im switching. SHE STILL BETTER THAN OMNI-MAN."
@dawarmonger
3 ай бұрын
Broh you play the game TOO much lol
@mBountyHunter
3 ай бұрын
Every character in this game has their own set of issues I agree with you. Although it’s good to know and understand them to try and work around it, I think it’s better to not overthink it and just work with what we have, and if they decide to buff the moves or adjust them in some way, then we also adjust y’know
@dawarmonger
3 ай бұрын
@@mBountyHunter Agreed.
@Weezynya
3 ай бұрын
@@mBountyHunter Thank you for response i agree with you. Love the contents watching you since 320 subs.
@mBountyHunter
3 ай бұрын
@@WeezynyaI still can’t even believe people have been subbed for that long lol thank you so much for the support
@yooooo649
3 ай бұрын
I personally believe any character with a one button overhead and a one button low is a really solid character. I also believe that any game where Sub has ice clone, he’s gonna be annoying as fuck to play against.
@mBountyHunter
3 ай бұрын
Depends on the frame data of the move. Subs overhead compared to his low is definitely slower but people still get hit by it because there’s so much more to worry about, and when he’s paired with Khameleon that mental stack gets worse and worse
@yooooo649
3 ай бұрын
@@mBountyHunter he can dominate the casual to semi-pro scene. i can’t tell you how many times I got hit by his overhead because i’m worried about his B3,4 (which you can combo out of with a lot of kameo characters)
@mBountyHunter
3 ай бұрын
@@yooooo649 Trust me I still get hit by it too LOL I'm saying the reason why it may seem "reactable" but we still get hit is because there's so much other stuff to worry about, and if he has Khameleon it's worse because we have to think more to block
@genkai-u9o
3 ай бұрын
Bro that annoying overhead they do and they slide to u and zone with the freeze
@IPLAET7
Ай бұрын
That's all he got
@oboe4521
3 ай бұрын
Na people tripping I've made god rank in kombat league with subzero and use other cameos than chameleon
@oboe4521
3 ай бұрын
Not like that proves that sub is good, but just saying he ain't that bad
@mBountyHunter
3 ай бұрын
Yeah I don’t want anyone to take my video the wrong way. He’s not an insanely strong character at all, he definitely has his issues, but players talk about him as if it’s impossible to win a single match with him which I don’t agree with
@edd4131
3 ай бұрын
How long did it take you? If you don’t mind me asking
@oboe4521
3 ай бұрын
@edd4131 I can't really say long because I don't keep track but at a guess 6 weeks
@Nonlifting_breezy
3 ай бұрын
I got to Demi god with him months ago with a losing record. I just had to land more touches on my opponent
@TavUong-u1z
3 ай бұрын
most of these sub zero players are way too dulu and downplay him way too much when in reality he pretty decent. Only thing he’s lacking is in the damage department but with the right kameo he can do damage. They always be bringing up his slow overhead but nitara has a way slower one that need meter to combo 🫢.
@mBountyHunter
3 ай бұрын
Yeah like I said in my video and even my pinned comment, he definitely has issues but it’s not like it’s impossible to win with him. Also, with the right kameos you don’t even have to use the EX df4 to get a combo and you get a lot of damage as I was showing in the first game with against the Shao player
@MigsDaGoat
3 ай бұрын
Only problem I have is his ice ball, the wind up is way too slow and the ice ball it self is way too slow, if they make it the same speed similar to Lu kang fire ball he will be an even more better character, and his ice clone need to regenerate faster as well.
@CanadianWizard99
3 ай бұрын
Sub isn’t good at a high level. Good everywhere else tho. Super defensive
@mBountyHunter
3 ай бұрын
I would say he’s good at high level but you just have to work way harder. If people can make Scorpion work, then I don’t see how sub can be any different
@beniciovillarreal9345
3 ай бұрын
Havik I think is the worst
@mBountyHunter
3 ай бұрын
He’s definitely down there, I’d say you can argue between Shang, Nitara, and Havik easily being Bottom 3
@Nonlifting_breezy
3 ай бұрын
Sub zero got gaps for days. I have no idea why other characters have capture state moves and can get 35 plus percent meterless while sub zero spends meter and gets no damage. Also you can actually block his ice klone if you walk up to it and block
@mBountyHunter
3 ай бұрын
Can you consistently walk up to the clone and block it in an actual match and block it without being punished? Every character in this game has gaps as well, even against my own main, I have yet to go up against someone who punishes Nitara's gaps every single time or even attempt to armor. Sub definitely has issues but he is far from being the worst character in the game
@Nonlifting_breezy
3 ай бұрын
@@mBountyHunter with subs gaps and his crap damage to me makes him the worse. Can i consistently block the klone, no but I’ve done it in matches and have people on the mic screaming wtf. Ice ball is garbage he gets too much scaling. Imagine playing sub zero and feeling like you’re handicapped for using his actual ice moves. Meanwhile sindel screams at you and gets 40 off a multi hitting F1
@mBountyHunter
3 ай бұрын
@@Nonlifting_breezy I'm not saying your points or anything aren't valid, sub definitely has issues. I'm just saying even with issues it's still possible to make him work. YES I'm aware you have to work harder, but that's just Fighting Games. Some characters get it easier than others
@Nonlifting_breezy
3 ай бұрын
@@mBountyHunter right but we both understand he can be a better character. I mean reptile got immensely better off some changes. In no what should sub zeros primary way to freeze somebody be a ground freeze that needs meter.
@johnnymullins1331
3 ай бұрын
No he isn't, everyone knows it's Nitara
@mBountyHunter
3 ай бұрын
You’d be surprised how many people would disagree with you, that’s why I made this video lol
@imscropion
3 ай бұрын
How bad do u think scrop is
@mBountyHunter
3 ай бұрын
Bottom 10 maybe. It may sound like a terrible placement but I honestly believe every single character in this game is viable to make Top 8 at a major tournament and maybe even win it, if given enough time. Even MKJavier made grand finals for MK1 while ONLY using scorpion and I definitely believe all the other low tiers (Nitara, Havik, Shang etc.) also can make it high too
@imscropion
3 ай бұрын
@@mBountyHunter idk nat all she has is damage and air movement
@br0dyj08n9
3 ай бұрын
I honestly don't think he's the worst character in the game I think he's very broken people complain about him not having a good projectile even though he doesn't need It because his ice clone makes people respect it and his ice clone is so broken especially in the corner it literally gives you free pressure
@mBountyHunter
3 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say he’s broken either. Definitely not the worst character in the game nor is he top tier broken either
@br0dyj08n9
3 ай бұрын
@@mBountyHunter would you say he's mid tier?
@mBountyHunter
3 ай бұрын
@@br0dyj08n9 Bottom 10, definitely not bottom 5. It SOUNDS bad, but I’d even make the argument that every single character in this game can make Top 8 at a major tournament and MAYBE even win one if given enough time
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