Keep beating that 'make active skilling methods worthwhile' drum please Chev, I literally said that in the last survey too, I know RS is referred to as a 'second monitor game' but not everyone plays like that, when I play, I want to play, not stand at a bank all day. One example, Charm Sprite hunting is BY FAR my favourite skilling method in the game currently, issue is the xp rate is ass so it's never worth doing over proteans lol
@greycrimson3228
4 күн бұрын
My issue is with the mechanics since most of the time you're just avoiding the blue box and nothing else happens.
@zeldapro18
3 күн бұрын
The same could be applied with Croesus. I would love to have a really good skilling boss that is fun to do.
@mygtavideos3955
2 күн бұрын
"Rot and suffer!". OK then I'll just stand around for seconds while the nodes are blocked. cool cool.
@greycrimson3228
2 күн бұрын
@@zeldapro18 I mentioned the upsides of Croesus over this when I commented on the last Gate video but one of the easiest points to understand is that Croesus just has more notable fight progression points: Depositing the resources for the team, finishing the node, travelling across the wide field, putting the resources in the statue and taking more from the box, rotting, repairing and dpsing. Gate feels like it doesn't have that
@zeldapro18
2 күн бұрын
@@greycrimson3228 fair enough I get it. Haven't done Croesus in a few years. There is repairing the barrier, killing the awks, and the pillar mechanic. Can't think what other thing would make it feel like Croesus with that being a group boss and GoE is a solo.
@greycrimson3228
2 күн бұрын
@@zeldapro18 There are kills where the pillars and barrier feel kinda like phase points where you only do those actions once, though if you ignore the barrier and 2 cycle Gate, then it feels less like phase points but if they did, it would still feel too short I think With Croe being a group boss, that also makes more things happen during the boss I suppose
@currentcommerce4774
3 күн бұрын
as an OSRS player, I think some of our philosophy could be helpful "if the bug is more fun then the feature, dont patch the bug"
@roscovian
2 күн бұрын
"if the bug is more fun than the feature, make it the feature" *
@tonyb3214
4 күн бұрын
I like the new boss more than croe encounter cuz its not as confusing but I agree that the lag is the issue here. When I do the pillars alot of times i'll get stuck on the third pillar with my character just looking at 4th pillar getting the "i cant reach that" message like 5 times in a row then I do like no damage and its frustrating to say the least lol
@LegDayLas
2 күн бұрын
I requently do Sus while watching movies/shows. It's not confusing at all and requires no brainpower thanks to SusAlert.
@thatshittysnarefromSTanger
3 күн бұрын
it was introduced to us as a group skilling boss. you can solo it in 3 minutes or less, and the quests require combat, which eliminates skillers.
@zeldapro18
3 күн бұрын
They said they made it solo and scaled for group. As you said it's a skilling boss. Not a skiller boss. Even Croesus isn't a skiller boss because Surge and Crystal Mask(not needed but still).
@gabrielbernardes9808
2 күн бұрын
Skilling boss = a boss beaten using skills and not combat not to be confused with a boss >made for< skillers, which, btw, is not an official gamemode
@plus-boy
4 күн бұрын
I find it funner and more rewarding than most bosses imo. And given you can do it completely solo and foodless without lots of gear investment, it will probably work its way into the early-midgame iron meta.
@ChevalricRS
4 күн бұрын
Agreed, but the issue is the quests, to actual mid game players, are kind of way to hard no? Or am I underestimating newer players?
@pondracek
3 күн бұрын
Err. It's less rewarding than afk Vindicta. And that's not exactly a high watermark.
@Hirokey123
2 күн бұрын
99% of the quests necessary for this boss are literally quests designed for new and returning players with very little reqs. RfaD is the only “high” level req quest and even then it’s still basically just mid-level.
@Hirokey123
2 күн бұрын
Vindicta’s only offering is lances which are only worthwhile as invention fodder. Everything here but maybe the amulets are incredibly desirable for basically the foreseeable future. Memory Dowser is a significant QoL upgrade. Elidinis scripture is one of the only two skilling god books and if your goal is exp it’s the meta, the book itself is roughly 85-100k extra exp per hour is pretty damn massive. The attuner is the best RCing exp per hour, a consistent way to guarantee threads without skull-ing yourself, and genuinely more interesting than any of the other RCing methods we have. It’s only trade off is profit for mains, and for irons it’s negative is the randomized runes because of how pure essence is kind of a pain to gather. Two BiS upgrades, one somewhat niche, and one fairly niche. That’s a pretty rewarding table and the commons are really nice as stuff to actually use. Not to mention this boss is basically zero cost input and zero risk which means it’s a slow but guaranteed money printer.
@pondracek
Күн бұрын
@@Hirokey123 Someone forget about crest of zaros? Also Vindicta dies in 20 seconds. Not 3 minutes. The commons per hour are better than Elidinis because of this.
@Glaceonics
3 күн бұрын
Its not a terrible release encounter wise. It's a good way introduce people to skilling bosses. It is actually the WORST BOSS REWARDS WISE. When your best items in your loot table are fucking PAPAYA FRUIT AND DIAMONDS there's a god damn problem.
@currentcommerce4774
3 күн бұрын
its just kind of... MEH
@gabrielbernardes9808
2 күн бұрын
My continent has a world (south america) and my country has 2 worlds (Brazil, 47 and 75), but the server hosting those worlds are nowhere near us. So... he have a base ping of 100 (frequently higher) and that makes bosses like that to be very, veeery clunky
@crazedmonk8u
3 күн бұрын
i would say 7/10. its nice to have a pretty chill non pvm boss. i think its geared towards more low-medium level players and it helps out people who really don't like to do any active bossing (i.e they just rather afk gw2 , if they cant revo it they don't do it). only thing i wanted changed was better common loot, right now it just feels bad for all kinds of players , especially high level players, if you don't get a rare drop. if it was ~5-8mill an hour consistent that would be the sweet spot imo. right now for me anyways its i can do 1 hour of this boss or do 1 hour of zammy and make 30mill+ guaranteed just from chest drops for slightly more effort (220% enrage)
@kennethjames6114
2 күн бұрын
RuneScape has always had this problem with requirements not matching rewards. It becomes especially obvious if you play Ironman. By the time you are able to access things like, let’s say a dragon crossbow, you don’t really have a need for it other than as a required item for a higher level item, which devalues a weapon to a mere material. I don’t think gate should be compared to croesus though, as croesus drops are also poorly designed in the way that they are too good for the requirements
@zeldapro18
3 күн бұрын
I used the Crafting cleaner to alch for profit while getting 200m. Don't see the use at all for the necklace. For fletching might have been worth it for me. Did Rune darts and sold them to a store. Been a long time since I did Arch but Daemonheim digsite came out recently and filled a hole in the 70s range, Warforge is after that. Arch is quick.
@WingsofAbsurdity
4 күн бұрын
I give it a 7/10. The most important part for me is I don't need to stress about the struggles of finding a group or having to go through public instances. A soloable skilling boss is the main thing I like about it. I think it's a good addition to the game but I also understand why some people may not enjoy it as much including myself.
@Wifi_Cable
2 күн бұрын
If the reqs were much lower, then it'd be just fine as a low/mid level skilling boss. With current reqs the boss is too simple. Needs more complexity and if that is done, then increase loot a bit. Also, I don't agree that Gate being 25m/h and Croesus being 50m/h is a fair comparison, just because one is easily soloable and one basically requires 4 at least mildly competent people. Group requiring content should have that extra premium otherwise the group stuff will just die off.
@VinnyRune
3 күн бұрын
I will also add that the scripture is almost impossible to use on mobile. I was using it with porter buff and I maybe only successfully got 1/4 encounters
@KmnnKani
3 күн бұрын
Alright, I'm still waiting for the new boss pet. (1200kc but no pet)
@sithisrants4154
3 күн бұрын
I am so tired of saying "I told you so" instead of "I'm glad you agree with me" when it comes to RuneScape things. I predicted every problem with this boss from a single tweet like half a year ago, and no one listened 😂
@zeldapro18
3 күн бұрын
5 months ago and there was 0 details. How tf would you predict any problems lol.
@yt.personal.identification
3 күн бұрын
All bosses are repetitive. People just follow a button click order written by someone else, for some bosses.
@Ruggedhobo
3 күн бұрын
Tried it a few times, I think 'Meh' is absolutely right. I would rather they have reworked Croe to be good for solo gameplay. I would also suggest that Exp should be close to BiS with the amount of effort required.
@duke605
3 күн бұрын
The attuner is absolute Garbo. Idk what they were thinking? From the moment we heard about it I thought it would be garbage but held out, hoping for a hidden function but nope. The description is exactly how it functions, making it useless for anyone not looking to level Unfortunately because we only get 1 offhand per skill, we're stuck with this garbage until the end of time cause jagex doesn't touch shit. They pump out features and leave them to die
@abdoali51
3 күн бұрын
Croesus was way better and more engaging
@mygtavideos3955
2 күн бұрын
Well designed, rate it 6/10, but then correctly point out the game is 'not responsive enough to handle these mechanics', the encounter is 'repetitive' and 'not too enjoyable'. Not to mention the underwhelming XP, mediocre loot and high entry requirements? It doesn't even deserve a 6 out of 10. This content is not fun, not really rewarding and adds very little to the RS3 experience. It is sad that this the major update for the Autumn/Winter period.
@Rina_Tennoji
2 күн бұрын
They could have at least tried to not make it look like wardens p3
@ChevalricRS
2 күн бұрын
LOVE wardens
@alexfrog1
4 күн бұрын
Crafting latent offering was most likely designed for ironmen or afk Gate
@lordroxas123
3 күн бұрын
I feel like the latent offering was more geared towards main accounts because of how god awful the exp increase is. 10% ain't shit, especially for an iron where you want to keep most resources. In fact I feel like the balanced it around bxp/double exp weeks.
@zeldapro18
3 күн бұрын
@@lordroxas123 So what non MTX thing gives 10% and lasts more than an hour? Including MTX items people will go to w84 just for the constant cores of 10% and the portables. 10% ain't shit, HA.
@mygtavideos3955
2 күн бұрын
A tiny bit more XP but destroyed produce makes no sense for two skills that are a money sink already. For irons maybe? But only if the boss dropped relevant supplies - which it doesn't in any significant amount.
@zeldapro18
2 күн бұрын
@@mygtavideos3955 As of now if you're doing Fletching for fast xp you're for the most part aren't making anything back. I agree on Crafting though. I did Royal D'hide bodies to 200m and made a bit of profit with the Crafting cleaner. Each gear was like 400gp each.
@darkdonzaloog
4 күн бұрын
The boss has zero chase and i kinda cba to do it
@ChevalricRS
4 күн бұрын
it does help when there is a good chase
@wowsparta
4 күн бұрын
@@ChevalricRS least at croesus the little blob can chase you, when you get that one that spawns right next to you, you can feel the no touchie moment
@mygtavideos3955
2 күн бұрын
Even with a big chase drop it would still be boring and weirdly balanced. How many people would ever just do an hour of this boss for fun?
@wowsparta
2 күн бұрын
@@mygtavideos3955 boss is not even a month and after just 400 kc I took a break from going for log. It's just really not fun
@Hirokey123
2 күн бұрын
Memory dowser is the chase it’s literally BiS for energy gathering in a massive way.
@Kagelar
3 күн бұрын
xp sucks, drops suck, drops to rare too
@johnbalkin8223
3 күн бұрын
Good release.
@gotickofficial
4 күн бұрын
Very good points, especially for veterans. Just wanted to share that for me, a noob player, I quite enjoy doing it :)
@ChevalricRS
4 күн бұрын
Love that, how were the pre-requisites for you? To high or were they just fine?
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