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@matt_nyc_audioengineer
Жыл бұрын
Just a heads up. There is no saturation added to the Kirchhoff EQ. It's just the curves from the vintage eqs that they emulated. There is no saturation in the plugin except for what would be caused by the dynamic eq.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Yup. It’s just curves
@jaco1368
Жыл бұрын
Well spot Panie Mateuszu!
@theredfaceofficial
Жыл бұрын
This EQ has most definitely taken inspiration from DMG Equilibrium which had hardware modeled EQ curves as well. It still sounds amazing even in 2022!
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
It has taken more from other plugins as well ;-) Hardware eq curves can obviously be modelled easily, and personally i dont think they make much sense, except for something like the very typical pultec eq curve.
@andydebaeke9668
Жыл бұрын
Both are great EQ's. With the PA Forever $29 subscription(around 30 euro for a full license) kirchhoff wins for me.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Proper choice.
@gianlucagranato4472
Жыл бұрын
Kirchoff doesn't emulate differents eqs...only the bands curves.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
yup!
@aichi337
Жыл бұрын
What even are the differences between various EQs?
@MrCool144
2 ай бұрын
@@aichi337nova is the best and there’s a free version. That’s all you need to know
@bassinblue
Жыл бұрын
It blows my mind how many producers and sound engineers get super excited by any and every plugin! Missing the point completely. This plugin is vast with a variety of options to control the frequencies...but you could do that any way. Using this plugin just means you have more steps to do with it when you can achieve each aspect individually and pay attention to each stage separately to this plugin. ProQ3 still is perfect and helps me tame an individual component of a track and find a pocket for it, coupled with an SSL EQ to allow me to fit the component in the track and provide some colour to the track. Coupled with some compression+limiting etc...guys this is stuff you have already, so please don't fall for this 'this plugin is a game changer' marketing tactic. Peace!
@Reggi_Sample
4 ай бұрын
I felt that way about Q3😂
@AngelAngelesIII
Жыл бұрын
The Toneboosters EQ 4 is very easy to use and have most of the things you need from Pro Q3 without breaking the band. Check it out before pulling the trigger on either of these EQs.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting us know!
@essayemyoung4009
Жыл бұрын
Should note that the dynamic EQ in toneboosters EQ4 does not do expansion. Only upwards compression.
@mSarimaa
Жыл бұрын
ToneBoosters EQ is also great! The best value on the market IMHO.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@hjd9157
2 ай бұрын
I agree! I recently tried it, and I really like it!😉👍
@althewicked
Жыл бұрын
I miss the EQ Match function in Kirchhoff. Beside of that I would vote for Kirchhoff. Thanks for the comparison!
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@SamuelCurtis
Жыл бұрын
Disappointed to learn that EQ Match isn't included. I guess "Kirchhoff has every feature Pro Q has" was a tad hyperbolic.
@ConfusioNIntrusioN
Жыл бұрын
you can however customise most of the gui on the kirchoff, you can even load a custom picture as background 😊
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
I resisted the temptation to make kirchhoff look exactly like pro-q3.....
@odalv7278
Жыл бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio 😂😂😂
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
True story ^^
@DJNuimani
Жыл бұрын
Kirchoff will be my Go To. Even if Pro Q 4 takes the crown I’ll be using this one. Something about it works for my workflow. To each their own Pro Q 3 is really good. Industry standard as well
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Your comment is spot on. It comes down to workflow and preference.
@nofood1
Жыл бұрын
Q4? when ?
@DJNuimani
Жыл бұрын
@@nofood1 even since Kirchoffs release people been hyping up a Q4 now the company hasn’t announced anything people are just talking about it I believe
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
I’m sure fabfilter is working on Q4 but they won’t release anything before it’s finished. Nothing has been announced.
@michaelscott8992
Жыл бұрын
fabfilter understands very well the competition that challenge their superb products, especially when it's (Q3) one of the finest and most popular digital EQ's ever created. You can surely bet Kirchhoff is in their crosshairs and when they introduce Q4, it will not only address everything Kirchhoff has challenged (and good for them to do so!) but will make catching up again very, very difficult. It is bound to happen soon, as Kirchhoff has made big news and created loss profits for fabfilter by their existence and acclaimed exposure. That said, things are quiet at fabfilter for now, but this is because (in my estimation), they are smart. When Q4 comes out it will not be rushed. When you're the finest you must ensure absolute perfection when you launch the next state-of-the-art product. Others are watching and technology moves quickly so it must be done perfect out of the gate. fabfilter has pretty good odds of meeting this challenge. An exciting anticipation indeed ;-) Very nice video, thank you for the updated breakdown of each and making your videos easy and enjoyable to watch, A+!
@toolondaboards
Жыл бұрын
I just got it from PA and LOVE it!
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@YuvProd
Жыл бұрын
pro q-3 all the way, i dont need any gimmicks. if i need neve or ssl sound eq ill just use neve or ssl eq. pro q is the king
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Or queen?
@DJMontini94music
Жыл бұрын
I luv fab filter plug-ins, for me the best of the industry
@patrickalphenaar
Жыл бұрын
I like Kirchoff more then ProQ. Its much cleaner and less phasing, and my ears are over sensitive to phasing so Kirchoff is a big win! But yea ProQ is awesome too! But if i had to pick one its very clear. And man the Dynamic EQ on Kirchoff is perfect. 😊
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
They're both good tools. Good to see you have found your peronal favorte. Does that phasing also happen for you when you switch to natural phase or liniear phase in proq3?
@patrickalphenaar
Жыл бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio yea it does. Ofcourse there is a difference in phasing/shifts between linear and natural but in general i hear phasing “rotation shifts” in nearly all EQ’s. Only Kirchoff in 117bit and x2 reduces that by a lot! It seems a very little hole in my left eardrum causes me being overly sensitive as stated by the doctor who said my Hearing capability is higher as normal (with hearing test’s) which probably makes me so extremely sensitive to phasing and rotation/Shifts. But trust me i dont like it when working with audio! Wish I didn’t had that awful sensitivity😢 so i could focus on making music instead of trying to fix everything……… So thats why Kirchoff is way cleaner to my ears as a lot of people even wont hear that clean clarity and preferably should not hear it either. Cheers
@ArtProductionsSound
Жыл бұрын
@@patrickalphenaar Oddly enough, I've been getting the same feeling. I've been using Pro Q3 as a surgical digital EQ for years, and until now, I haven't found a better EQ type until I tried Kirchhoff EQ at 117bit 2x, the difference is remarkable. :)
@anissbenthami
Жыл бұрын
I'm afraid to tell you that you have hearing issues
@vicneve1169
Жыл бұрын
I have both. When I don't think about it, I grab the PRO-Q3. Just out of a habit. But there is one thing I really enjoy on the Kirchhof. The low cut and high cut slope settings are not fixed like on the PRO-Q3. Well they are, but not when you use the second knob beside the slope knob. And to be honest... that can give better (more natural) results. I also did a comparison on how both eq's sound. And I did like the sound of the Kirchhof a little bit more. But I will repeat that comparison once more. I hope fabfilter will strike back with PRO-Q4. Did not realized it was released 5 years ago already 🤔
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
On the slopes in proq3: you can select different slopes and when you play with the gain and q knob you can adjust those more.
@camielpovel6290
Жыл бұрын
Fabfilter has the Volcano plug which has distortion modes in it. More creative but can be used subtle easily
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
True,. And Saturn actually would cover a bit of that as well. But imagine having the eability to add just a bit of saturation on the peaks of 1 frequency band.
@lewbaldwin
Жыл бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio yes, like the ole' Hornet Total EQ
@MichaeldeKooker
Жыл бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio That's basically Wavesfactory Spectre, right? :) I use that as sort of a coloring (boosting) EQ, next to my clean EQs.
@PaulStephenson003
Жыл бұрын
great video and thanks for sharing your perspective. after lots of research I went with the Kircchoff a couple months ago, and to your point there was a learning curve. However, wow, do I love that EQ. FF has the best UX, so if FF did an upgrade and closed the gap I'd likely switch to Pro-Q4. Regardless the Kirchhoff is amazing for surgery - the dynamic upward and downward (expansion vs. compression) capabilities on the same band are awesome (bit hard to sort at first, but awesome in the end - not sure if Q3 has that)
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
No you cant do upward and downward with 1 eq band at the same , you need to split it between two. That function in kirchhoff is pretty sweet.
@zoundsic
11 ай бұрын
Both great, use Kirchhoff when i need more control, but generally happy to keep Q3 as my workhorse.
@khalilroukoz
Жыл бұрын
very helpful! I went ahead and tried Kirkoff and to be honest there is too much going on and I an a simple type of dude so stay with pro Q ! Thanks
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Bit the same here.
@khalilroukoz
Жыл бұрын
Oh well, maybe ill get used to it at some point lol! awesome videos by the way straight to the point and very informative compared to other I watch👍
@Phat-Monkey
Жыл бұрын
I like Pro Q 3 but I LOVE Kirchhoff EQ, been using it since release (not the PA version)
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
And workflow? how does it work out for you?
@Phat-Monkey
Жыл бұрын
@White Noise Studio PQ3 is faster but as far as I am concerned these are problem solving EQs rather than sweetening EQs which would be faster to dial in. I guess what I am saying is I do not mind spending extra time fixing using Kirchhoff 🫡
@Charift
Жыл бұрын
thank you for this real informative video :) and thank you for being transparent and mentioning other plugins
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@daveparkin3286
Жыл бұрын
I feel like the most important thing was glossed over, which is the sound.. would love to see and hear a side by side audio example.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
They're both clean i.e. no sound caused by harmonics added to create a sound.
@djerikfox
Жыл бұрын
..is there a way to see the colliding frequencies in kirchoff like in ff pro q3? that would be amazing....regards
@cao77
Жыл бұрын
I found kirchoff a bit hard to use. Which leads to wasting a precious amount of time when using it. I like the dynamics section though….in comparison to proq3 which is very fast and intuitive. When I reach for digital eq I end up with Infinity eq from slate which is far more easy to use as I dont have proq3. Can’t wait for slate to finally release a version with dynamics in it. Im thriving to use kirchoff yet….
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
I have the same. Its every time a little step extra to achive something which fabfilter can do straight away.I should check inifty EQ by slate, I think i have it.
@Gainsforlife
Жыл бұрын
FL stock EQ with custom presets saved for the win 🏆
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
That will be great in other daws! ow no, wait ....
@MrEarlabs
Жыл бұрын
And again Toneboosters EQ is ignored...... I find the dynamic settings in Pro-Q is very clunky and TB already fixed this 3 years ago. Thanks for this review anyway.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Hoi Jos! Nah, its not ignored. Well it is, but 99,9% of all eq's are since this video is about pro-q3 vs kirchhoff. I like the simplicity of the pro-q3 dyamic eq actually. It just works.
@mSarimaa
Жыл бұрын
I too find the Pro-Q dynamic section just fast to use! Though I have found a pretty fast workflow with the ToneBoosters EQ. Hornet Total Eq is also quite good for the price, but not nearly as sleek.
@TheReal_E.IRIZARRY
Жыл бұрын
If case if it's not clear, The Pro-Q3 came out AFTER Kirchoff EQ has.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
When was that? Still: pro-q2 ;-)
@luklagrande
Жыл бұрын
Pro-Q + Infinity EQ + TDR Nova 🤩
@Reggi_Sample
4 ай бұрын
Love that Nova
@TazzSmk
Жыл бұрын
I still prefer TDR Nova to be honest, and unlike those Dynamic EQs, it's Parallel, not Serial, so works better for my use cases :)
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t parallel dynamic eq missed the point a bit of dynamic eq? Tell me how you use it, to help me understand.
@TazzSmk
Жыл бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio it's perhaps bit non-intuitive to understand, with parallel dynamic EQ like Nova, bands are processed simultaneously without affecting each other, which results in different sound results, Dan Worral has nice comparison/explanatory video on that topic: kzitem.info/news/bejne/rI1j1mGIm59ihYo
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Ahh you mean parallel like that. yeah that makes total sense. I had parallel in mind like a sort of dry wet balance which I think would be weird.
@kris5645
Жыл бұрын
Claro > Pro Q3 . Got it on this November sale, its the best eq out there.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
It's a great tool, especially with the ability to compare different audiotracks within 1 window.
@jcpuga
Жыл бұрын
Sonnox Claro is my clean eq as of right now, and MAutoDynamic for Dynamic EQ ...looking for my 'Surgical EQ' and might get the Kirchoff with all those bells and whistles...
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
IMO I would go with pro-q3. Kirchhoff hass bells and whistles but also bells and whistles which are just bells and whistles ^^
@AlexReidStudios
Жыл бұрын
I really want to love Pro Q3 alternatives, but there's no faster and to the point workflow than that
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Pro-q3 has that nailed down.
@JackMajor
Жыл бұрын
I just discovered Kirchoff a few days ago and I'm very impressed with it. I would like to give it a go! Btw, I love your channel and the thick Dutch accent, shoutout from Zaandam :)
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Haha kaaskoppen united!
@laddieervin
Жыл бұрын
Great comparison! I've got both and agree 100% with your assessment.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Ha! Good to hear ;-)
@papa.alfredo
Жыл бұрын
Let me give you some Info from the test I did with this plugin. I selected an EQ point and applied to be a SIDE Bell. When I select only this part (to solo it to monitor only this side node) to check inside Voxengo SPAN PLUS, I noticed something I did not like at all. First, the sound gets MONO by soloing it, it is not suppose to sound MONO because, the part of the EQ I want to listen is a SIDE node and must sound only at the sides, with a wide phase issue, Voxengo shows me a green plasma wave indicating all is OK without showing me any red information telling me that the sound is gone to the sides and a warning for me to let me know, that there is strong a phase issue! I say this because I know Voxengo very good and I know how it works with any other EQ like Stage Digital Inf or Fab EQ3, by saying this I felt really very disappointing that this EQ does not work as it is suppose to behave, it outputs a wrong information easily captured by Voxengo, maybe I have done something wrong inside Kirsch but, I don´t think so, I have a playback from different tracks in Stereo and Voxengo must tell me all concerning about any change I do in any EQ plugin and the INFO I get from Kirsch is really very wrong and made me feel about this plugin not to use it at all, I don´t think this EQ is useful based on what I said! For those who know the importance to use Voxengo in the master output (to check the MONO compatibility of a mix and the side energy inside a song) will understand what I tried to explain here with my post! Let me know if I did something wrong and correct me if it is the case, greetings from Germany and as always, great videos you produce! Thank you. ps. if you wish, I can make a video to show you what I mean in case you don´t get my point, yes? :-)
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Sides will usually solo as a mono signal, or as a very weird out of phase type of signal. Some developers choose for a mono sound, others don't. I prefer mono, because with the out of phase sound is hard to judge if your adjustments sound right. But normally i never solo mid side and listen in total. Sides solo-ing is weird because the sides cannot really sound right without the mid signal component because of physics. The sides component of a mid side signal is derived from the phase difference between left and right channel in a particular way: M = L+R S = L-R Now the + and - refer to phase , where the - is flipped phase.
@DaveChips
Жыл бұрын
When someone asks me what is the the best XYZ plugin... My answer is "the one that you own and know" I love Fabfilter stuff simply cuz I'm owning it over 15 years and I know it inside and out same as my hardware stuff. If I was starting from complete 0... I'd go for Tokyo Dawn plugins for price and performance and possibly klanghelm for some colorful stuff. Acoustica is great too sound wise... But lately I feel like they r underperforming on cpu to sound quality compared to other vst developers.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
That's the thing right. My guess is that workflow will always win.
@DaveChips
Жыл бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio whatever brings best sounding results in quickest time frame... 😁 So far no one complained yet from having 3 harmonics at -90db from some older saturation plugins from aliasing 😅 But don't tell anyone 🤫
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Shhhhhht! Don’t tell anyone!
@RogerBrenon
2 ай бұрын
Acoustica is IR sample based for giant CPU hit. Can be good and bad though modeling gets better every day.
@unclejohn8520
Жыл бұрын
Pro Q3 is good enough. Just Waiting for pro Q4
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Yup. It's due for an update. But fabfilter only releases a plugin when it's really done. So who knows when? I dont and I asked them .
@gianocastello7706
Жыл бұрын
With FF proQ I can have a fast workflow with good results. Too many options of Kirchhoff-EQ would distract me only, too many possible decisions. ProQ dynamic eq works fine, there is also TDR Nova which has more options and works great and is even free. I like your video. Thanks :)
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
And I like your comment! Thanks as well :-)
@byus6928
Жыл бұрын
have both. I don't use proq anymore.
@saardean4481
Жыл бұрын
Nice video as always man. Regarding "When Pro q got a dynamic Eq function the others rushed to do it too" lets not forget Tdr Nova which not only is Parallel like the new Pulsar 8200 but also Dynamic with Attack and Release settings for a looong time before Pro q3. I believe it was 2014 0r 2015 I find it by far the most value for money even if I have shifted my workflow towards Pro q3 I the last years
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
The TDR Nova is pretty affordable and you're right. Its usually more like ''the one who screams loudest get's the credit''. I used dynamic eqs as well before Pro-q3, but can't really remember which one it was. Maybe a DDMF one.
@saardean4481
Жыл бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio Cool stuff! Yeah I know what you mean with the "loud screamers" :-) That being said after all these comparisons where Pro q is being dragged into it made me curious when and how Pro Q4 will come out and how it will look like
@gianlucamarchese
Жыл бұрын
In reality, Pro Q3 is still valuable compared to Kirchhoff (even though I went with the latter). For Kirchhoff to be the definitive digital EQ on the market, it still needs 3 major functions: - Static Match EQ (like Pro Q3) and Dynamic Match EQ (like TDR Nova GE); - Frequency visualization of conflicting areas between 2 or more signals (like Pro Q3); - Static and Dynamic processing of Transient and Tonal frequency content (like Eventide Split EQ). If those 3 major functions will be implemented in Kirchhoff 2.0, it's game over.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
It will never be game-over. Musicians and engineers love to stick to tools they know and have used ;-)
@Googahgee
Жыл бұрын
The dynamic settings do have a control that lets you adjust between it responding more to transients rather than the whole signal, which is nice
@gh0stransist0r
Жыл бұрын
Pro-Q4 will have all this plus Soothe + Gullfoss + SmartEQ + SplitEQ built in. Dreaming is free. 😪😪
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Lol it is.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Who knows?
@gh0stransist0r
Жыл бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio it's coming, I've beta tested it in the future. I'm a time traveler!
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Nice! I already made a review in the future and I can tell you, the plugin does things!
@gh0stransist0r
Жыл бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio ah! that explained all the quick video of the newly released plugins everytime!
@teddym2808
5 ай бұрын
Wow watched 5 videos now and not one person will compare the spectrum analyzers and say if Kirchhoff has the spectrum freeze feature or not, which is super useful.
@odotstef
Жыл бұрын
Love your videos
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man. And love your comment ;-)
@iainmcguire7190
Жыл бұрын
Regarding your comment on fonts being a fixed size, and not scaling, if you go into settings, GUI tab, then turn on "Use Vector Font" and restart your host DAW, the font size scales when you change the plugin default view size to 150% So this criticism isn't really valid, you didn't turn on the option for the plugin to do this
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Not in default.
@iainmcguire7190
Жыл бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio Okay, but why does that matter? You turn it on once, then it's done. It's a weird complaint, that you have an option to have it both ways
@GloveBunniesVideos
Жыл бұрын
Great video as always! I've been using SIR Audio Tools' StandardEQ for a while now, which is fine for what I need. Customizable and even has a resonant frequency detector. Someday I'll upgrade to Pro-Q3, maybe if Fabfilter has a crazy Black Friday sale. We will see...
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
I dunno! I think last year there were Black Friday deals for fabfilter.
@tommymai3062
10 ай бұрын
Just the fact that they ripped off pro q3 GUI annoys me
@yungswampfire
Жыл бұрын
kirchhoff need armonic distortion on eq emulations
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
If its just curves its not really special isnt it.
@Yt.tryouts
Жыл бұрын
I was just looking for this video last week XD can please do a comparison between Smart EQ 3 from Sonible
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
And here it is!
@DJGlashammer
Жыл бұрын
I have Kirchhof and Q3 Theo are both absolutely top products. I still prefer the Q3. his workflow alone is just so good. But I also have to say that at the moment I'm more and more preferring the SSL X-EQ2, it's not that comfortable and doesn't have a dynamic band, but it just sounds so loving!!!
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Never used the SSL X-EQ2. They look pretty ^^
@kellendustries
Жыл бұрын
Did the new Plugin-Alliance version add saturation/circuit emulation for the EQ models? Asking because they previously only modeled the EQ curve but it was still the same clean, linear EQ.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
As far as i can see its just the curves like it used to be. Cant see any harmonics added by using the ''analog'' curves.
@andreasveith6681
Жыл бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio So I think it's not really coloured it only has musical EQ curves to choose from. When saying coloured I think of harmonics and distortion...
@bco0t6
Жыл бұрын
Equilibrium is better even has an analogue option in the back settings
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but not the subject of this video ;-)
@petefaders
Жыл бұрын
What if your mixing 125 tracks and put the Pro Q on everything? The noise might build up and be audible, I dunno.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Theoretically you could but the wav should be very low level as well. Big chance that the noise recorded in the audio file will be a problem first. So in real life scenarios, I really doubt that.
@beku73
Жыл бұрын
the best ever digital EQ is Weiss EQ1 period.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
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@spickeys5078
Жыл бұрын
Do you have some thoughts on Pro-Q3 vs Shade Eq from UVI ? Shade seems way more versatile (randomisation option for example) but here's no linear mode and I find it a bit less transparent. Am I imagining it ?
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
I have never considered Shade to be a normal EQ or corrective eq, but as an effect tool: kzitem.info/news/bejne/ua6gr4uooqmWbJg
@spickeys5078
Жыл бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio Thanks for your answer! Yeah probably like everybody, but I yet have to find the reason why it couldn't compare to Pro-Q3 or Kirchhoff as a mixing/mastering Workhorse (with insane sound design options in bonus). Less transparent or intuitive than those ''normal EQs'' ?
@BoyceSoundPro
Жыл бұрын
Is there a masking function on the Kirchoff EQ like the pro Q3? Can’t find that anywhere.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
What's the masking function?
@kawinshivasoman
6 ай бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio the duck eq function
@thevi_olin
Жыл бұрын
Bijna five years old! 😊
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Ownee, i almost had het goed!
@thevi_olin
Жыл бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio the on holder wins ;)
@teddym2808
5 ай бұрын
How can it be cleaner when it nulls perfectly with pro Q3? Dan Worral proved it, down to -180db absolute zero null? I don't believe you.
@fvcvbvcbccbc2803
Жыл бұрын
I have a quesiton about the noisefloor one. I may be wrong on it, just let me know. If every one of a pro q3 has -175 db noise, does that mean two pro q 3 will boost that noise to -169( 6db louder) Then in a large mix when we have over 40-60 audio tracks, do we time that with 20 30 as the factor? That maens we end up with audible noise in our mix?
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
You have to boost unhealthy amounts for it ever to be become a problem. 24bit equals 144dB of headroom and you will never play at that volume. Before that noise floor become a problem, any other noise in your mix from plugins or simply recording will be hearable first.
@fvcvbvcbccbc2803
Жыл бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio But theoretically, I think it depends on where you put the eq at. If it is the very first plugin you put in a raw signal such as a recorded piano or guitar, that noise floor might be affect by those other saturation and compressor in the future. Especially in genre like edm, people use significant saturation to do sound design. In those circumstances, I think the cleaner the better. BTW, Kirchoff eq still has one more shortage that is the automation part. At least in Logic, when you automate the plugin, you don't see a damn number on the automation curve. So you have to open the plugin to match the reduction and boost. That is stupid as hell. Lots of times, I ended up by copying all of the eq setting by hand to pro q3 to just do a automation.
@billmaries
Жыл бұрын
Does it have External spectrum visualization to layer up and work with other eqs? Pro q 3 can do one other instance as can most stock daw eqs, voxengo span plus can do multiple layers but on demo I couldn't find that function in Kirchoff but maybe I missed it?
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Nope. The Sonnox Claro can do that very well as well.
@billmaries
Жыл бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio great I'll check that 👍
@gughffhhghgghghgg1690
6 ай бұрын
How does the kirchoff have split function like sustain and. Attack??? I never noticed it ,can you explain?
@helloimrudz2998
Жыл бұрын
Kirchoff is pro q + FL studio parametric EQ 2
@beneath_the_woods
Жыл бұрын
Option Paralysis: The EQ
@Gabbanadj
Жыл бұрын
Pro Q 10 ladies & gentlemen
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Lets hope for version 4 first ;-)
@gitarman666
Жыл бұрын
Eventides Split?
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
I love Eventide Split and its a great companion for Pro-Q3, but not a replacement.
@navazmerchant3241
Жыл бұрын
Does Kirchoof Eq have the EQ match option?
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Nope.
@helloimrudz2998
Жыл бұрын
Pro q is taxing on cpu
@frankpaws
Жыл бұрын
YEP!
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
That's a clear statement^^
@JakeyWakey
Жыл бұрын
Justifying purchasing a fab product?
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Nope.
@JakeyWakey
Жыл бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio Kirchoff is a great deal for us plugin alliance members.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
@@JakeyWakey absolutely. Added in my subscription bundle.
@1minutejazzguitarhacks39
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Im just whelmed with the Kirchoff. Tons of features won't make your music better.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
haha. Well there's an eq for everyone these days ;-)
@zoozeonja158
Жыл бұрын
You should have turned on the subtitles switch
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
that is something you really need to do yourself.
@marshy_moo
Жыл бұрын
Fabfilter bias is pretty blatant here. Splitting all kinds of hairs, grasping at all kinds of straws to justify not acknowledging the Kirchoff has it beaten hands down. Agree that the noisefloor is irrelevant, but all the other issues mentioned here really are edge cases that don't affect me or the vast majority of users. The only thing I wish Kirchoff had is support for eq graph on the track view in Pro Tools, but even then that's a pretty minor gripe. Also, I think the point about doing dynamics (I noted the workflow example was broadband) at a different stage is fairly inane - the vast majority of EQ I do is at the problem-solving stage wherein the ability to focus that (spectral correction) dynamically is invaluable; polish is often the later job of saturation or other box-tone introducing plugins.
@TheSoundfidelity
Жыл бұрын
It's bijna 5 years old... 🙂 btw, I love the Kirchhoff EQ way more than Fabfilter Pro-Q3.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Only kaaskoppen wil get it ^^ What do you like better anout the Kirchhoff?
@TheSoundfidelity
Жыл бұрын
What I like more is the control over the parameters with a channel strip-like interface, perhaps old-fashioned as you say, but very clear per eq band. and I really like the sidecian function. I also use the Fabfilter Pro-Q3 and I also like this plugin. In my opinion there is a place for both plugins in the dynamic world of EQs. Both plugins are recommended, in my opinion.
@teampyro911
9 ай бұрын
how does the wiess softube compare to this bad boy?? anyone??
@frankwalders
Жыл бұрын
It's 'bijna' 5 years old. :-)
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Only kaaskoppen will get it ^^
@frankwalders
Жыл бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio ha ha ja! Lekker filmpie overigens.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Dankje!
@roberteismann1929
Жыл бұрын
Fabfilter every time
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
That’s quite often! ;-)
@alsoeris
Жыл бұрын
Performance wise? No. Pro Q is much faster and more responsive
@vroteg
9 ай бұрын
To me this Kirchhoff is a gimmick and a gimmick. Emulations are only replicate curves of analog EQs, not something I’d want from digital EQ. 117 thing does not make any difference. Split linear phase is… do you really care about phase above x hz? Me not. But only 2x oversampling is an issue. And all this advanced compressor controls in EQ? I have MB compressor for it. I usually watch tons of music production videos on KZitem instead of working 😂. However, I haven’t seen any one on KZitem using this EQ yet. This tells a lot.
@davidroikit8121
Жыл бұрын
TBTech Kirchoff EQ has the WORST account set up and managment system ever. I'd love to try it but it got me beat.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, for PA users it's dead simple.
@pvugts
Жыл бұрын
''Bijna" 5 years old? haha
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
:-) Only dutchies will get it ^^
@pvugts
Жыл бұрын
@@whitenoisestudio 🔥💯
@byniasofficial2567
Жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert: No it's not. It's been measured.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
^^ Shhht , you need to watch the video ;-)
@deadlyrobot5179
Жыл бұрын
The king is the one with the lowest CPU usage. If it's a hungry boy, it's out the window.
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Your daw’s own eq will be the winner ;-)
@AlexAlcyone
Жыл бұрын
All this talk about features, design, etc..... not a word about how it sounds. Unbelievable. Nobody, it seems, dares to talk about the one thing that matters more than anything else... the sound. Is there a single video that will just do some sweeps with no talking?
@whitenoisestudio
Жыл бұрын
Because it’s just bloody eq curves and nothing more. The thing doesn’t “sound”.
@byus6928
Жыл бұрын
yes Kirchhoff is def better
@whitex4652
Жыл бұрын
BS. The noise floor is not below human reception, it is with 24bit resolution not there.
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