What a shame...this DLC is just 1 palm tree short to spark my interest in this game again...
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
90% of players quit one palm tree before fixing cities skylines 2 forever
@TheGalacticVoid
5 ай бұрын
This honestly should've been a free update
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
Agreed
@JhonDoesThings
5 ай бұрын
For the sh** show they brought up? yes absolute!
@MrBillclintin
5 ай бұрын
I dont think its fair to those who bought the expanded who already paid for the dlc. The irony is that the dlc seems quite tiny, not much bonus material. But the road map should include free dlc's such as a big park dlc. I dont see any dlc expanding on the creative options such as the Parks dlc. They might be able to fix the game technically, but is it going to entertaining?
@NickKrige
5 ай бұрын
Look at any of Paradox's other games. They love DLC, they don't do them for free.
@fslknsadglkdahawerykljwa3aw643
5 ай бұрын
@@mattbeevers1132 A lot of us made the foolish decision of doing so months ago.
@catwitz
5 ай бұрын
This would be a perfect time for them to turn their current reputation around: They could add palm trees to the base game (not behind a paywall), include sand, beach paths, and beach props as you said, and frame it all as listening to the community.
@An_Economist_Plays
5 ай бұрын
You know when Gordon Ramsey yells at a chef for cooking something wrong and the chef goes back and cooks it wrong again and gets yelled at again in the same way and then the chef tries one more time, screws up the same way, and has to face Chef Ramsey to get royally chewed out and dismissed? That's what this feels like.
@meatsandwich3217
5 ай бұрын
Opening up to Steam Workshop would go a long way in helping this game succeed and repairing the relationship with players.
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
Yes
@BlackNomad1
5 ай бұрын
Yeah. But they won’t.
@SuperMickyChow
5 ай бұрын
It would, but that absolutely is never going to happen.
@BringerOfFire
5 ай бұрын
If new trees are locked up in DLCs, building a decent looking Vanilla Map down the road is going to be an insane challenge. Us getting MrMaisons (Thank You) trees to the base game of CS1 was a game changer
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
Yep.....we need a pack like that for CS2 base game. Cos putting trees behind a DLC is just plain insulting
@tendergremlin
5 ай бұрын
Really good point!
@timotheatae
5 ай бұрын
FOUR (different life stages of the same) TREE! I'm still tipping away at getting a functional 25 tile vanilla city in 1, I'll move onto 2 once I run out of experiences to squeeze out of 1.
@tonyzed6831
5 ай бұрын
What a joke. That cow is still not walking straight (and never will) and they already start milking it... they have zero shame.
@tonyzed6831
5 ай бұрын
Oh and answering your question at the end, I started playing SC4 and SC3k again (but I never truly stopped). Can't even go back to Skylines 1, tastes like meh.
@tonyzed6831
5 ай бұрын
@@mattbeevers1132 The fundamental workings of the "simulation" can be maybe rearranged to a certain point... but not to the point it will become a great simulation. It would mean a deep redoing of it... which won't happen. The performance will not be fixed, because it can't be. You can't simulate a huge city using agents, simulating every citizen. Skylines 1 is still not capable of making truly huge cities work (I'm not talking of a city with 100000 people, that's not huge by any standard), how could an even more demanding game do it?
@OccasionallyElijah
5 ай бұрын
There was honestly so much potential in something as "small" as a beachfront properties dlc and they really decided to prank us instead
@Mark-qj5kp
5 ай бұрын
Side note - this is the only channel I get excited for CS2 videos from lmao. You're the best, Diana.
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
Aww ty 🥰
@supermanifolds
5 ай бұрын
Beach DLC with no sand 😭
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
Huge miss
@ageoflove1980
5 ай бұрын
Maybe they "don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere."
@almarcaUrban
5 ай бұрын
Yeah no. I'll keep Cities 2 in my library, but i'm never going to open it over Cities 1. Soooo much unfinished, broken, missing content. You know what's better than some paid-for assets? Free assets! From the workshop! for any style! anywhere! anywhen! just give me my god damn bikes back paradox...
@_Katmai
5 ай бұрын
I am 100% back to CS1 right now, I forget who said it, maybe you, maybe Biffa, idk but there is just nothing there. Its frustrating, performance has not been an issue, parts of it are fun for sure but really its just there is nothing there... I have the launch ultimate edition, so the DLC is coming to me and I might try it out...honestly I forgot how much fun modded CS1 is, since I upgraded my PC for CS2 I can now run a ton more assets and mods on CS1 and its pretty great! Thanks for the content!
@bourbonbobo
5 ай бұрын
Yeah as someone who will get the waterfront property pack due to the version i paid for I'm not happy with it at all. I don't want to pay for new trees that way and i don't think any trees should be behind a pay wall, they should all be free. I hated finding out that this dlc is setting such a dire precedent for the future of game content. I'm concerned that the base game will receive no content updates. Does this mean that future map packs can't use palm trees without requiring you to own the dlc? Absolutely vampiric decision to lock basic world assets behind dlc imo. I'd be happy with the buildings, though frankly i would have preferred a few beach front commercial assets included with a tourism boosting zone policy, but i understand the development issues (or being pushed to market too early issues really) causing it to be difficult to add a lot of new stuff while the game still has problems. I'm honestly just hoping this update will put it back in line with where it should have been for launch (ignoring the fact that palm trees are now paywalled) I have personally been sinkng my hours into Vintage Story for the last month after my main CS II save became oversaturated with land value. Feeling satisfied with that game purchase in a way i haven't in a long while.
@tigeryang333
5 ай бұрын
I was so disappointed at CS2 and went back to CS1 and sadly realized my passion for city-building/planning was pretty much gone, so I just stopped and turned to Persona 3 Reload. Now Dragon Dogma 2 is coming out, I really want to pre-order, but then again, I pre-ordered Cyberpunk 2077 and CS2... so I'll just wait. I mostly played vanilla even when CS1 first came out. So I'll guess I'll wait a long time until CS2 vanilla is in a reasonable state to play.
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
Yeahhhh honestly same. I still enjoy CS1 in small doses from time to time but really I havent been playing it much. For some reason I got really into Fortnite and Truck Sim haha
@RcSammy
5 ай бұрын
When CS2 first came out I was super motivated to try out the asset creator and try and create my own Indianapolis Monument circle for the game, but since the awful release it kinda crushed all that motivation. idk maybe the release of the asset creator will finally give us all the control we want to see in the game
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
I feel that so much, hopefully assets will come out and spark people's interest again
@RcSammy
5 ай бұрын
the modular buildings create SO much potential for content creation and its so frustrating to see that stagnate. @@CitiesByDiana
@KingDavidCreates
5 ай бұрын
I don’t own Premium Edition and when the pickings are that slim, I won’t be buying “DLC.” Not to mention PDX and CO have imo shown that they don’t deserve any more of my money. That said I am curious to try the game with Mods and Patch, I never bothered with Thunderstore because I wanted to wait for PDX Mods. I wanna judge CS2 Modding by its intended platform, instead of the community option.
@KingDavidCreates
5 ай бұрын
@@mattbeevers1132 Nope, I’m waiting. Paradox and CO put their eggs in this basket, and so I will wait and judge them on it accordingly.
@shinnokgaming_
5 ай бұрын
Paying for 3 trees is wild , thats why we need the community to make the mods .
@BlackNomad1
5 ай бұрын
I love that 4 trees have become almost a meme about this dlc update already. Woo. 4 trees. This is something that could have been offered free as a gesture of good will (that would also serve as a subtle hint to buy the beach dlc) But no. More waiting for the game to be in a state that’s worth playing. Moving in the right direction sure. But my goodness is it happening very very slowly.
@aj2587
5 ай бұрын
Still don't have CS2, I play the first one every now and then. Discovered Planet Coaster on my computer that I bought years ago and forgot about so I've been merrily making amusement parks.
@maraschwartz6731
5 ай бұрын
Honestly they need to do the No Man's Sky approach. Hunker down and develop free improvements. Hello games did this and they are still making money. Because they improved the game!
@tendergremlin
5 ай бұрын
I have just under 40 hours played in CS2 and haven’t played for months. I have been mostly playing other games, but have played CS a little. This DLC will bring me back (because I bought the Ultimate edition). I’ll be back at least long enough to see if the game is running more smoothly. When it comes to beach-themed assets, I think this misses the mark completely. Like you, I was hoping for usable beaches with sand, not high-end single-family homes. I’m looking forward to more thoughts from you about the asset editor and pdx mods.
@solmateusbraga
5 ай бұрын
I love the videos where you talk with us and you're filming yourself, it's cozy! Can I give you some positive feedback? Your camera is a bit too close and too bright, so it can be a bit uncomfortable to look at. And it'd be so much more cozy if you were looking at the camera! That way it'd feel more like a conversation. Anyways, keep up the good work! ❤
@joeyd0923
5 ай бұрын
I’m still playing CS 2. I personally love it but it’s starting to get stale. I’ve been trying to go at a much slower pace and detail a lot more which has kept my interest going. Can’t wait for the new stuff but if they limit it to a certain “zone” that would suck.
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
Yeah I feel that. It does feel stale after awhile
@tmg7476
5 ай бұрын
I'm a retired Florida beachcomber. This DLC does not say beach to me at all. I grow citrus. I grow pineapples. I'm looking for things I see around me and I don't see them in this DLC. I'm looking for all the wonderful beach, Florida, or tropical assets in Steam workshop and I see this DLC as a joke. Even if it were free. No beach or tropical map? Sorry CO, Sorry Paradox, no more money from me until I can get comparable assets that I have downloaded from Steam for CS. In the meantime, I have found and am playing half a dozen Banished descendants.
@_jonathancollins
5 ай бұрын
Hey there Diana! Thanks for covering this and giving your opinion. Personally, I've been playing both games on and off. What strikes me the most is how many really useful features have been added by the actual devs to CS1 over the years that are just not in CS2. I still enjoy both games, but CS2 just lacks detailing tools/props that I wish I could have. Leading up to release, I was already planning how I wanted to start a basic town with just a gas station on a country street corner, adding residential and growing a city realistically. On release, I was disappointed by how much money I was given, and how much infrastructure/road planning had to go into starting a new city from scratch. Now that I've gone back to CS1, I'm finding that my original idea is way more possible there. That said, CS2 has so many quality of life improvements, especially in the road tools, and I'm glad terrain modification is free, but I feel like it's meant to be more like a kid playing with their toy box, rather than a realistic simulation. Every new DLC release will get me excited, as long as they keep adding detailing options. And maybe some day, they'll add basic functionality to CS2 that 0they already added to CS1 years after *its* release. I'm looking forward to more long-form content from you if you choose to do that. Thanks!
@Dlnqntt
5 ай бұрын
I love that, "4 palm trees" bit as if those trees are not just new, young, adult, and old / dying.
@T33K3SS3LCH3N
5 ай бұрын
This feels like a bad joke. I actually went and checked to see if this is really all, and wow it truly is. One new zoning type with 10 new base building models per architectural set, a few signature buildings, and 4 trees. Come on Paradox, what are you doing... after the absolute launch disaster, their first content expansion is most barebones DLC in the history of DLC. The obvious comparison for a water-themed DLC is Sunset Harbor, which actually had bad reception for appearing too little at the time. It included: 1. New public transit options with 10 new buildings (Intercity bus, trolleybus, helicopter pads, bus/metro hubs) and introducing above ground metros 2. Fishing industry with 10 new buildings 3. 5 more water treatment buildings 4. Aviation club 5. A bunch of new maps 6. A free update with 4 new buildings (childcare, elderly care, two types of metro station) That used to be disappointingly little, and yet it feels massive compared to the CS2 DLC.
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
Sunset Harbor was one of my favorite DLCs. I forgot the each DLC came with new maps 😂 I wonder why this new one didn't.....
@chrisw443
5 ай бұрын
theres modding offically coming so that'll be earth moving if it pans out.
@dante6563
5 ай бұрын
to be honest, i've moved to transport fever 2
@TransportSimulatorNationTSN
5 ай бұрын
It's actually three palm trees that they show not four.
@pawsgerby
5 ай бұрын
i'm (unfortunately) locked into getting this asset pack because i preordered the ultimate edition. if they charge anything over $5, it shows just how insatiable the greed is at PI/CO. it's literally 10 residential buildings per region, 6 signature buildings, and what will likely be 4 variants of one palm tree. i doubt there'll be any actual mechanical changes to zoning or surfaces with this pack. it's gonna be just ~vibes~
@BlackNomad1
5 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry you brought the ultimate edition.
@baconboy12
5 ай бұрын
It’s just gonna be like the other zoning types, one asset for every amount of zoning (1x1, 2x2,ect), it makes everything looks the same, I regret buying the deluxe edition
@pawsgerby
5 ай бұрын
i've preordered only two games in the last 4 years: BG3 and C:SL2. the best and the worst.
@cunningham-code
5 ай бұрын
I am back to CS1, code mods would be enough to bring me back.
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
Code mods are definitely coming!
@Rhys1021
5 ай бұрын
Honestly they need to give the dlc out for free as an apology for the lack of mods and fixes on release
@mygetawayart
5 ай бұрын
i think the beachfront properties might work with the suitability mechanic, so they'll only want to build very close to the water and nowhere else (though i imagine that we'll be able to place them wherever using FindStuff or RICO)
@naturedo2
5 ай бұрын
They are obviously under pressure to release content promised for the ultimate edition, but it seems they can't even get that under control and are releasing half finished DLC. So ultimate edition buyers get a half finished game and now half finished DLC. What a mess.
@bouthat1
5 ай бұрын
Took a break around January, no plans on picking it up again until something more than a few beach houses comes along.
@SoDakJason
5 ай бұрын
Still haven't bought CS2, but I can't be too mad at them for releasing this pack since it was technically part of the Ultimate Edition bundle, meaning people have already paid for it. At some point CO had to deliver at least on that. It was supposed to be released in Q4 2023, but had to be delayed while they fixed, well, everything. (but yeah, 20 buildings with 3 levels? 4 -- FOUR -- palm trees? What even is the purpose, you don't have tropical/desert maps. Looking forward to seeing creator videos that have palm trees with snow on them 🤣) The Bridges and Piers expansion was supposed to be out in Q2 2024 but given everything else I wouldn't be surprised if that slips to Q4 2024. So, the people who preordered the Ultimate Edition will get everything (assuming a working game) they preordered .... 6 months after they were supposed to.
@ronsandahl274
5 ай бұрын
Should anyone be surprised by this with how Colossal Order completely threw players under the bus in the first game simply to money grub with DOZENS of DLC - most of which should have just been in the game - rather than work to make a better game. If it wasn't for the tireless work of modders the original game would have been very frustrating. My instinct is that Colossal Order wants to shut down modding without looking like they are (which is why they are delaying modding rather than let modders fix the game) so they will be making some kind of modding portal, like House Flipper 2 uses, which kicks back to the parent company money for letting them host the mods. Anyone who thinks that Colossal Order will have learned any kind of lesson, or "do the right thing" to make the game better are delusional. It is all and only about money.
@ipoopinabag666ttv8
5 ай бұрын
I have 748 hours into CS2. I love the game and want to see it improve. I bought the most expensive package for the game when it was released to support the game but part of me wishes I just bought the lowest package. I still play the game from time to time but I catch myself restarting because of in game bugs. There's this one that gets me every time. You're building your city and out of no where, you're getting like 12 million an hour from one industry chain. Some people might be okay with this but I want to build a city without the 'unlimited money' option lol
@Rocky_rambles
5 ай бұрын
I'll try the game again after the update to find out if the simulation runs any better especially with larger cities but I dont know if there will be enough to keep me interested. Ive tried playing a few times but get bored with the lack of assets and animation. It just hasn't been fun for me to build an open park-like space or sports stadium area and nothing gets used. I guess the biggest things I miss are the DLCs like parklife, universities, gameday just to make the cities seem more alive.
@alfonsmarklen1345
5 ай бұрын
Personally, I don't think that a few more houses and a palm will be enough to get almost anyone back but the free mods that they have promised will most likely be worth more for me
@rmyers99
5 ай бұрын
I'm still playing, but only because of the mods that have been released addressing land value and such. Since I bought the ultimate edition pre-release I am going to hope this March 25th update fixes enough things and makes the game more fun. But if it doesn't, I probably will lose interest quickly. The only thing that has me still playing the game right now is I'm just trying out new things with supply chains and mass transit and highway interchanges in the hopes I can learn the system a little better. Also, it's oddly satisfying being able to design beautiful interchanges by hand. But those, too, are things with a limited shelf life. What would keep my interest is if there were enough assets in the game where I actually had to make choices about what to deploy. Right now, I'm able to deploy *everything*. And that makes the cities I build look pretty identical. So all roads lead to boredom, it seems. I'm still enjoying the game in this present moment but only just.
@knobjockey6882
5 ай бұрын
“4x the palm trees!” - Todd Howard, probably
@PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures
5 ай бұрын
Paradox Salesmen: "We've run out of snake oil! Will palm oil do??"
@ianbeck5897
5 ай бұрын
This DLC may be the minimum that CO/PDX think they can get away with in order to satisfy Ultimate purchasers contract requirements. The pricing will have to make those who went non vanilla feel that they haven't been shafted and that may put some people off. I feel that the more important milestone for March 25th is the patch improvements which we hope to have in the game. They will need to be very significant if they are to demonstrate that CO haven't been taking things easy while their customers have been boiling with frustration. Such is the disconnect that currently exists between supplier and customer. Unfortunately, the game is lacking on so, so many fronts and it will have to be a monumental improvement in gameplay across the whole spectrum to appease the majority of players and to save the franchise.
@jsb06g
5 ай бұрын
Right the "waterfront zoning" has me curious. I'd be disappointed if I can't build a full size tropical city. Tropical cities are my favorite being a Floridian. The Northern US/European layouts and constant snow are depressing to me.
@CallMeInfinite0000
5 ай бұрын
Honestly if CO and Paradox decided to price this anything higher than $9.99, this will really tell you what they're after. I'll have to see other creators fiddle with the DLC first before I consider buying it.
@WorkingProduct
5 ай бұрын
Paid DLC already? The laundry list of things the base game needs remains unspoken for..
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
Yeahhhhh
@OGNightmare
5 ай бұрын
Originally, this paid DLC was supposed to come out last December. I pre-ordered for all dlcs coming out this year, and have been waiting for PDX/CO to get their sh** together.
@WorkingProduct
5 ай бұрын
@@OGNightmare my brother in christ they are cucking you out of palm trees 😢
@ThatREALAnnoyingGuy
5 ай бұрын
Look, I get having the beach properties behind the DLC, but not including the palm trees (tree?, haha) with the free patch when the base game doesn't even have trees from a tropical biome, seems like a bit of an oversight.
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
Since half the base game maps have 6 months of winter imagine the snow covered palm trees 🤢
@ThatREALAnnoyingGuy
5 ай бұрын
@@CitiesByDiana Haha, imagine the poor artist who spent time having to model the snow covered version.
@GlennNakamura
5 ай бұрын
Hey Diana. I think I'm like many, who became so disenchanted with CS2, (reality vs the pre-release hype), that it tainted the whole franchaise for me. I even stopped playing CS1 for a while, but because I'm such a newbie, (been playing for less than a year), I still am having a great time playing it. So many things I have yet to do. Built my first quay just a few days ago. I don't know the history of CS1, however, it wouldn't surprise me if it had a rocky start also. That's what I expect, and am hoping that CS2 will one day deserve the title as worthy successor to CS1. Perhaps this is an indicator of how soon I think CS2 will be the game I want to play. I just bought my first CCP, Train Stations, while it's on sale. Considering my first DLC, Parklife, while it's 1/2 price. I don't want to spend too much for a game that I may not play once CS2 is playable, but I don't think that will be for a while, perhaps year end? Btw, loved Shawn's reaction to the update news.
@inyobill
5 ай бұрын
We really need Precision Engineering, Traffic Manager, and others to be able to play.
@GlennNakamura
5 ай бұрын
If you don't mind, I'd like your opinion on a logistics/morality issue that I have with CS1, which also applies to CS2. It has to do with the deleting of existing buildings to make room for changes, whether because of adding a larger asset to the area, or most commonly, when upgrading a low density res area to high density. From watching many videos, it seems like the common practice is just to re-zone and blow them away without any consideration for the trauma that that may cause to our cims. CPP calls it imminent domain. I recently needed to replace a lot of my low density res with high density. Rather than just re-zoning and let those cims die?, I created a new district and manually moved every residence, block by block or one by one, to the new district, b4 re-zoning to high density. Unfortunately, I picked a bad time. I decided to make the new district more organic and had very few straight roads, so it took days to properly get all the buildings to fit. The good thing about it was that when I had hundreds of buildings laid out (around 400), sorted by size and type, I could really design interesting layouts. Also, I didn't like deleting all those low density houses that had all maxed out levels. My question is, was this a waste of time? It took me days to do something that everyone else does in seconds. (When I was young, it wouldn't have taken me days, but with tendonitis, bursitis and arthritis in both arms and hands, I get too sore to do more that a couple hours at a time. This is how much I care about my cims. I am willing to do extraordinary work and suffer pain for their well-being.) I am very happy with the results and feel good from a moral perspective, but perhaps I'm missing something. Maybe I should just do what everyone else seems to do in this situation? Thank you in advance for your attention to my quandary.
@ryanz486
5 ай бұрын
I've been playing on and off since release. Despite the shortcomings I'm enjoying CS2 and find it difficult to go back to CS1. I just can't wait until they add bikes and Park Life like options.
@caseyjp1
3 ай бұрын
As a recent 'returnee' to the city-builder genre, I was getting set to bite the bullet on upgrades for my older hardware so I could play CS2. (Simcity3000 was where I last pretended to be a mayor a lonnnnng time ago. Heh.) But I dove into the reviews first and almost all were pointing back to CS1 over the sequel. So no upgrade needed. Heh. CS1 is impressive, hugely moddable and as someone 'new', I could see CS1 being the builder for me for years to come. Also, coming late to this video, I'll bet you had some things to say about that CS2 DLC when it dropped. 🤣
@CitiesByDiana
3 ай бұрын
Yeahhh that DLC hahah it was barely existent and I'm glad they made it part of the base game
@r3dkoolaide
5 ай бұрын
unless that palm tree comes with find it, imma just wait
@Lunatic_Plays
5 ай бұрын
I'll probably check it out but i don't see myself spending ungodly amounts of hours till we get the asset mods and those promised regional free packs
@Kafei01
5 ай бұрын
At this point, I just want them to work on the simulation, everything you do in this game does not matter, even if you do the most nonsisical and illogical city ever the economy never collapse, the traffic is never saturated, everything is always fine whatever you do there is always a fail safe mecanic that will prevent the city from failling, this is a no no for me I can't play a game that's not a game. I want to have a challenge, I want my city's design flaws to have an impact damn it. As for the lack of content issue, I don't expect anything from them, I just want them to start the mods support platform thing they announced and let the community do the work for them. I couldn't care less about the beach DLC, I want a game fixed DLC. I hope they have a wake up call, maybe cancelling all plan to allow steam workshop can still save the day but it may be too late... Anyways thanks Diana for the update.
@jadawngriffis3745
5 ай бұрын
If new trees are not added to base game that would be a slap in the face
@edwardmiessner6502
5 ай бұрын
4 New Palm Trees 🌴🌴🌴🌴 In a DLC that's Sunshine State inspired the 4 Palm trees should be: 1. Coconut Palm 2. Royal Palm 3. Silver Palm 4. Palmetto But I agree with your suspicion, that they're the same generic palm tree in the 4 stages of its growth cycle 😔
@ytdrjgaming
5 ай бұрын
They should more focus on fixing games and bring back things that we could do in the vanilla based game of CS1 in CS2. The beach properties DLC is useless if we can't paint a beach.
@peperoni3140
5 ай бұрын
honestly think 5 levels of buildings in the base game was a bit much... 3 is ok but its only a way for them to inflate the number of buildings while changing them slightly
@RamblinRick_
5 ай бұрын
2:29 Performance issues. I've not purchased the game due to my systems specs: i5-10500, 64 gig RAM, GPU RTX 20260 w/6gig VRAM. YTers, such as Diana, Biffa, BonBonB, City Planner, have high-end rigs, and even they suffer these issues. I'm looking forward to their reviews after the update to determine if I buy CS2 during the next Steam Sale (long after the current Spring Sale ends).
@JeremyThunder
5 ай бұрын
the strangest thing to me is having a specialized zoning requirement for the beach houses. Are they supposed to function differently from regular houses?
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
Yeahhhhh that's super weird. It might be because they straight up just don't have a good district styles option coded into the game.
@LondonTom
5 ай бұрын
This feels like they could have pushed this out as free update, as an apology for the state of the game. Its tiny, but we shall see the price point I am really glad I didn't preder order the edition with the DLC and was just playing on gamepass (then made the next DLC the one everyone pre-ordered). Mods is potentially big, and better than anything CO clearly want to give us for the foreseeable.
@scottsfowler
5 ай бұрын
Over promise and under deliver will be tattooed on CO and Paradox for years to come if this DLC/update is as lackluster as it seems to be. I have 500hrs in CSII so far with 5 cities on 5 maps all at or near 200k population with my biggest near 350k. Luckily I have a fairly beefy rig and haven't had unplayably slow performance and can maintain 30-45fps with almost everything on highest settings, but am quickly moving towards dropping all hope for a turnaround. I was so excited for this game but am quickly becoming disillusioned. The only saving grace is using dev mode to eek out a bit more creative latitude, but it is still very limiting
@OtakuWorld31
5 ай бұрын
It comes out on my birthday
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
Happy birthday 🥳
@OtakuWorld31
5 ай бұрын
@@CitiesByDianathanks
@economicserfdom4087
5 ай бұрын
Same as mine🎉
@robbbmm
5 ай бұрын
I was really really hoping that CS2 would allow for better terrain editing - for example, beaches, cliffs, fields, grass colour, etc. It's a real shame.
@unclemikeyplays
5 ай бұрын
About the same time it became clear Cities: Skylines 2 needed several more months to actually bake, I fell down a completely different rabbit hole (amateur radio), and have only just recently noticed that I haven't even opened Steam, let alone C:S or C:S2, in weeks. That said, 25 March or thereabouts, I'm going to fire up the patched game and see if they've actually fixed anything meaningful.
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
Yep, I haven't really played a lot of games myself other than the SUPER casual Fortnite run from time to time. Similarly, I fell down my own rabbit hole, which was making silly TikTok videos that aren't gaming related at all, mainly as a way to work on my video editing skills. It's a shame CS has become this but I do hope things get better....I miss the good old days 😆
@duckpond7856
5 ай бұрын
I'm trying to be positive: it's an improvement over the San Francisco Set!
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
True 😂
@sassyuterus
5 ай бұрын
Honestly, it’s a bit shocking and offensive for this to be CS2’s first “DLC” when it could be a free update or more reasonable a content pack. Maybe they are leaving sand and beach paths for an update, but it’s odd to charge for such a small collection of assets as a DLC and then later release related enhancements for free. I agree with you, terrible precedent.
@thadizzie1
5 ай бұрын
I personal feel, bugs and issues aside, if they released the regional asset packs, people woulda keep on playing for a longer time with some nice shiny assets to play with. What happened to it...sigh Either way, i agree with what someone said in the chat, this DLC should be free to at least the people that bought during the first cple of months.
@Franimus
5 ай бұрын
1) Great hair! 2) OMG how much are you betting it's the four life stages of one tree? It makes sense... Then again I'm a Yankee so I couldn't tell you a date palm from a coconut tree. 3) I think this is smaller than content creator packs... Didnt those have more assets? 4) So beach-related content got split across San Francisco (coastal map), Beach Properties (residential only), and Bridges & Piers, but still no actual beaches, surface tool, or ploppable assets?!? And probably no commercial assets either because the piers will just be a few nonfunctional fishing piers... 5) Will you move everything over to YT shorts if TT gets banned here? TBH we should be surprised California hasn't already on the basis of it causing cancer lol
@Abcia2
5 ай бұрын
seems like looking at the sims 4 imagine paying 40 dollars to get changing tables for babys 💀
@delta9k
5 ай бұрын
If this is an example of what they are counting as DLC as part of the Ultimate Edition I'm still a bit put off and feeling slighted. Really, water front zoning but no new bridges, oh wait that’ll come in Q4 (maybe)... Also, I have been really enjoying your "other" content! Myself, I'm still not really motivated to continue playing Cities 2. I have played some CS1, but I've been spending more time elsewhere tbh.
@rhel373
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm not saying I'll never buy the dlc but... not exactly blowing me away. Now modding though... when it comes. If it works.
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm not super impressed by it either. It's fine but it's kinda lackluster
@jakedaquake4103
5 ай бұрын
I have jumped back into SimCity 2013. It has issues and is very limiting compared to CS but it has charm (childhood nostalgia) and fun mechanics/specializations. Plus, since it is an older game it is not taxing on my PC. I think I will go back to CS1 after my SimCity fix is satiated or I might check out older SimCity titles.
@BenriBea
5 ай бұрын
CS2 made me go back 2 decades to sim city 4
@MewK_
5 ай бұрын
I sadly own the ultimate edition so i get the asset pack anyway. But it's not enough to bring me back. It mostly depends on the modding scene. The next proper extension looks more promising. Ill play other games until then.
@Qualiall1
5 ай бұрын
Hoping things will be better-but also kind of sad that they need to rely on unpaid* labor to make the game better-I still feel like the original plan was to get mods and asset creation out right away so volunteers with a passion for the game could cover up the obvious shortcomings they gave us. I think they saw what the modding community did to keep interest in CS1 and probably thought they could do the bare minimum of a game-the delay in releasing mods exposed this *tip your mod and asset makers if you can.
@davidfl4
5 ай бұрын
Well it’s definitely not going to be worth 20$ unless the waterfront specialization can create beaches/coast lines
@JakeAustriaco
5 ай бұрын
It's not going to be enough. 10 house types per theme for a game that seriously lacks enough house types. Literally only 4 palm trees without other assets like you mentioned. No mention of new mechanics, bikes, street or path types for waterfronts. And most importantly no fixes for current mechanics. Again, like you said, no beaches. I genuinely think we as a community should put together and start submitting consuemr complaints because this is honestly scam-level bullshit for a triple A game that has a budget to hire way more than just 30 developers.
@richpollock2217
5 ай бұрын
I also felt this should have been FREE after the $$itstorm thst came thru since 10/24/24. I know others have gone back. But with Thunderstore mods. I'm a train freak. So I live my train games. Just want to finally get used to making that stupid big train station to work Canadian Moose has re-energized me for CS2.
@rebecca99994
5 ай бұрын
I'm still not sure they're even going to include actual beaches in the Beach DLC.
@ageoflove1980
5 ай бұрын
To awnser your question: No it isnt. Because there are so many things under the hood that just dont work. Every time I play the game I feel like things I do in the simulation have actually zero effect on whats going on in the city. It seems like most things are just there visually to add flavour and really have no represention in the gameplay. This is such a fundamental issue bordering on a "scam" that the game will need a full overhaul, a 2.0 version to adress these isssues. And I dont use the word scam lightly here, because if you tell your customer one thing and in reality your doing something completely different, or in many cases nothing at all... how else would you call that?
@Mercuie
5 ай бұрын
I pittered out on it. I was hoping for more management since that was what it was advertised on but there was none. Nothing I do really impacted the game. So I tried to make it pretty. But it wasn't really setup for city painters either. We'll check back in on it at some point or another.
@w00dyblack
5 ай бұрын
hey as long it fixes a few bugs and gives us a map editor - im good
@TheBassCuresAll
5 ай бұрын
I have the same perspective on the new assets. Should've been a free update. I went back to CS1; fun and creativity restored, but RIP to my fellow Ultimate Edition buyers
@NoDecaf7
5 ай бұрын
Yeaah... this isn't enough to bring me back to CS2. I've been playing a bit of The Sims 3 and having a blast with that actually. Looking forward to diving into Stardew 1.6 also ❤ I'd go back to CS1 but once you get used to the road building tools of CS2, like maaaany have stated, CS1 feels archaic. I do visit my CS1 cities though and just follow busses around though. 🌴 🌴 🌴 🌴
@Keytucks
5 ай бұрын
I'm disappointed to see CS2's very first DLC return to the "paint a district" mechanic featured in nearly every single CS1 DLC.
@dantegianoli3267
5 ай бұрын
This should be a free DLC ! After all the problems !!
@nomadman_84
5 ай бұрын
unless performance is up to a good level, no new updates or content can "save" CS2
@lucasmoreno2154
5 ай бұрын
Everyone is tired of hearing about how they released the game too early, but I'd like to say that they dug their grave by doing that - there's a reason why interest in Cities Skylines got so low, they hyped an unfinished game high up to the sky and everyone felt disappointed when they found out the state of the game.
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
Yup. spot on analysis. They ruined interest in the first game by releasing the second in the state they did.
@cidog2660
5 ай бұрын
9,99€ Lets go!! Palm trees
@MatthiasPowerbomb
5 ай бұрын
I'm still on CS1 and I doubt I'll get CS2 for a long time, if everl. Not having the workshop was a COLOSSAL blunder (pun very much intended). I think it's going to kill the game. CS1 lasted almost a decade (and it's still going for a lot of people), but I don't think CS2 is going to have even close to the same longevity. The enthusiasm just isn't there. Maybe that will change sometime down the line, but I strongly doubt it. Like you said, interest in Cities Skylines is at an all-time low. That really shows here on KZitem. There's almost no one making content on it, whereas there were tons of amazing creators on CS1, most of whom have moved on to something else (read: NOT Cities 2), or simply stopped uploading altogether. It's sad to see the devs squander the amazing community that had been built up around CS1.
@blonded1
5 ай бұрын
I don't like how they are putting trees behind a DLC. If and when someone makes an Arizona, California or really any desert or costal region, they'll now have to buy a tree which honestly its a city builder game, how are variations of trees including palm trees not already included.
@saddestchord7622
5 ай бұрын
I really doubt I'll ever play CS2 again, honestly. My interest in following along to see if the game gets any better is waning. It's insulting that they'd release a paid DLC after the mess this launch has been. Leaves a really bad taste in my mouth, like an abcessed tooth.
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
I don't blame you. I honestly haven't even played it in like a month. I might give the editor and PDX Mods a try but I'm really demotivated
@VauMos
5 ай бұрын
Yep....going by the negative comments on steam they have flunked yet again!!!!
@gunnarragnarsson9563
5 ай бұрын
You missed a tree on your thumbnail! All that content 😋
@CitiesByDiana
5 ай бұрын
The announcement video itself only showed 3 trees when they said 4 palm trees 😂
@gunnarragnarsson9563
5 ай бұрын
@@CitiesByDiana The 4th tree is only for people who pre-ordered the ultimate platinum deluxe version. :p
@sirjarko8762
5 ай бұрын
As an ultimate edition owner TBH I have no interest. Its no where near enough to get me to even open the game let alone play it. Its good they are adding stuff but it shouldn't be behind a DLC at all. Honestly they need to just focus on the game. Fix all the issues, Add in everything missing which is a lot and fix performance, flesh it out a bit then worry about ultimate edition exclusive DLCs. The game isn't even at 1.0. Its so underbaked sadly, Like we literally don't even have grass of all things in the game.
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